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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the

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Speaker 1: One trend King. The new Viola Davis movie that is

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Speaker 1: getting incredibly good reviews is also incredibly violent the then

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Speaker 1: diagram of movies. I am going to watch the ship

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Speaker 1: out of Um. I am Jack and I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined today by super producer That Karama. Hello. Hello,

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Speaker 1: I would like to say I did not put it

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Speaker 1: in the show Knows yesterday and that is my bad.

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Speaker 1: Happy Latin X Heritage Month started yesterday, so uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: for all those who celebrate, give money to your local

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Speaker 1: Latin X friend, give them oparations for the colonization of

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Speaker 1: their countries as well. Uh, donate to Latin X causes,

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Speaker 1: Go see an art exhibit, go listen to Bad Bunny,

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Speaker 1: or learn more. Happy LATINX Herriage Month. Let's get into

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Speaker 1: Bad Bunny. Uh Bad Bunnies. Official video for the song

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Speaker 1: Lapagon came out today. Um and yeah there there's it's

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Speaker 1: a cool video and also there's a learning to be had. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a mini documentary at the end of the video

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Speaker 1: that's giving context to all the issues and atrocities happening

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Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico right now. When the stream came out live.

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Speaker 1: It was like very clear people were dipping off after

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Speaker 1: uh they hit the end of the video in the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the documentary, which is fucked up during Latin

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Speaker 1: X Carriage Month. But you know, I think this is

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Speaker 1: so incredible for Bad Bunny to do. He's always been

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Speaker 1: very vocal about what's going on in Puerto Rico, being

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Speaker 1: a voice and a face in the atrucities happening in

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Speaker 1: Puerto Rico and being there for the people in a

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Speaker 1: very real and productive way, which I love that about

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Speaker 1: him as an artist, especially with the truly like number

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Speaker 1: one artists in the world global platform he had, as

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's really put like what's going on

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Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico on the map in a way that

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Speaker 1: nobody has been able to do before. So super love

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Speaker 1: and appreciate that. Watch the video, go learn some stuff. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And on top of that, there is a hurricane coming

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Speaker 1: I think it was. I don't know if that was

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Speaker 1: there's been an announcement that Hurricane Fiona is potentially coming

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Speaker 1: for Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands and that it

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Speaker 1: will be catastrophic winds and rains. So pray for Puerto Rico,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, if you are religious or whatever,

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Speaker 1: just like put your heart out there for the people

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Speaker 1: of Puerto Rico. They still have not recovered from Maria.

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Speaker 1: That was five years ago. So like talking about you

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Speaker 1: kind of just briefly referenced the bad Bunnies, like the

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Speaker 1: biggest artist in the world, but that truly I haven't seen,

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Speaker 1: you know, since Peak Drake, I haven't seen Like I

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Speaker 1: I'm a loser and I pay attention to what is

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Speaker 1: what are the top hundred most played tracks on Apple Music,

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Speaker 1: like on a day, day to day basis, and this

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Speaker 1: whole summer it's been songs off his album, Like the

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Speaker 1: whole top five is basically bad bunny songs. Like truly

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Speaker 1: just dominance. He really has the country just broken records

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Speaker 1: globally and like and US side of like I think

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Speaker 1: really being able to put like international music on like

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Speaker 1: American scale. They're like the crossover has always been like

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Speaker 1: you know, Rosalia started doing it, but Rosalia has a

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Speaker 1: lot of her colonialization issues anyway, she is a Spanish

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Speaker 1: artist in reggaeton, like Spain Spanish artists in Spanish complicated relationship.

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Speaker 1: But Bad Bunny he is like breaking down queer barriers

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Speaker 1: for the community. He's breaking down with chismo and he

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Speaker 1: is just so incredibly talented. And I am so humble

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Speaker 1: to like be growing up in a time where like

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Speaker 1: someone like Bad Bunny can be dominating like the global

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Speaker 1: Like it's like only the representation I ever dreamed of,

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Speaker 1: you know, growing up, Like I feel like growing up

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Speaker 1: listening to any sort of Spanish music was like so

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Speaker 1: made fun of, like so frown upon. And now you

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Speaker 1: have people like at parties at clubs like purposely blasting

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Speaker 1: Bad Bunny. That would never happen like ten fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: You'd have to go to like specifically like Latino clubs

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Speaker 1: of spotlight and it's so cool to see it's bangs

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Speaker 1: that is treating them like props and that. So we

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Speaker 1: And um, I've seen like a couple kind of right

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Speaker 1: holy shit, this is horrifying. This is while that y'all

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Speaker 1: are the Party of Christianity and you're treating people like

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Speaker 1: and not the most literal interpretation of inhumanely. You're treating

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Speaker 1: them like not human for your own political purposes and

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Speaker 1: to like do like a political prank. It feels like

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Speaker 1: it almost feels like they prank. I think that's actually

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Speaker 1: what um one of the people who's now in Martha's

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Speaker 1: Santa's cool prank man, that you really really got us

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Speaker 1: because so the details that are emerging is that they

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Speaker 1: like lied to them. They were like, hey, yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be good jobs if you go on this plane,

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Speaker 1: and uh yeah, just just go on there. Well we'll

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Speaker 1: we'll see on the other side. And you know, they

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Speaker 1: also I think falsified, um their address records two so

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Speaker 1: just all around, um truly wild. And so then I've

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Speaker 1: seen people responding to the news and to the people

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Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen, being like, ha, see you've talked

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Speaker 1: about sanctuary like they're just going brushing past the idea

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Speaker 1: of you know, these are human beings. Are what are

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Speaker 1: you doing and being like see you don't like it now,

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Speaker 1: like just kind of yeah, they're like, oh, you wanted

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Speaker 1: sanctuary cities, And I was like, but this isn't an

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Speaker 1: ethical way. This isn't a sanctuary city anymore. And the

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Speaker 1: way that you did it because you purposely try to

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Speaker 1: funk with the people who are seeking asylum and make

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Speaker 1: it a point that they can't really ethically legally seek

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Speaker 1: that asylum by falsifying the records, lying to them about

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Speaker 1: where they're going X y Z. It's so it is

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Speaker 1: it literally gets under my skin like gross, like I

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Speaker 1: because it's not new. It is new for it to

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Speaker 1: ways this has already been happening from for migrants in

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Speaker 1: But it is so sick and sad and twisted to

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Speaker 1: And it's so ironic for these Christian conservatives to behave

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Speaker 1: this way when they truly choose to go on mission

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Speaker 1: trips to these third world countries and take pictures with

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Speaker 1: I like disrupted the ecosystem of this area, and look

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Speaker 1: at me doing volunteer work. I'm doing mission work, and

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Speaker 1: I'm found back. But if they try to come here

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Speaker 1: m hm yeah. And it's also telling that so they've

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Speaker 1: then they assumed that the communities where they were sending

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Speaker 1: mind incapable of like actually conceiving of these migrants as

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Speaker 1: know one person was openly being like, what Obama should

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Speaker 1: was like, I that doesn't help either, Like you can't

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Speaker 1: there's a new trailer for this Netflix Jeffrey Dahmer series

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There there's our guests on Monday's episode

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Speaker 1: of a podcast where they were recently debating like movies

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Speaker 1: Ryan Murphy to want to take on this topic, it

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Speaker 1: is so Evan Peters to want to be a part

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Speaker 1: of it. So where do I know Evan Peters from?

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Speaker 1: Because I saw the trailer and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Evan Peters waiting. He's a ry Mark Darling, so he's

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Speaker 1: in all of the or almost all of American horror story.

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Speaker 1: He tends to lean in this like creepy like world. Um.

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Speaker 1: He also was in kick Ass. He's like one of

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Speaker 1: the psychic friends. He also, um is Quicksilver in the

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Speaker 1: First Class. Yeah, um, so he's Quicksilver for that. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think he did a little crossover in the Wanda

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Speaker 1: that like X Men is gonna move over and a

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Speaker 1: I have loved Evan Peters like I've grown up with

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Speaker 1: Evan Peters and loving this creepy world. But I agree

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Speaker 1: the chat, why do we keep doing this for sick

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Speaker 1: a serial killer ship? I'm also done with it, Like

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Speaker 1: I feel like we give especially specifically serial kill there's

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Speaker 1: way too much time of day. They're evil people like

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