1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: Straight Fire, Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Thursday, 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: July twenty eight. It is a beautiful day to talk NFL. 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: We got Albert Brier, a tremendous guest. He always comes 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: on the podcast. He made time during his travels to 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: NFL camps. This is a tough time for reporters. They're driving, 7 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: they're flying, they're getting stood up by coaches and players, 8 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: and then they're getting them later. It's a tough time, 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: so it's tough to get these reporters on. I'm thankful 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: to Brier was able to make some time for us. 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: I think you'll like the conversation, unless, of course, you're 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: a Dolphins fan, in which case you'll hate it. But 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: before we get to Albert Brier of Sports Illustrated, I 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: quickly wanted to just touch on one story that's out there. 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Um that this is like the only story I found 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: moderately interesting in sports. Uh this more when I woke up. 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Draymond Green, according to the Athletic, wants a max deal. 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Max deal that would be big, big money. Draymond Green, 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: of course, the thirty three year old power forward, forward, centers, 20 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call him, smallball center who was 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: famously benched. That's right, benched during the finals. Briefly, I 22 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: believe it was Game four with the pivotal game where 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: the Warriors came back in one and even the series 24 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: of two thanks to Steph Curry. Draymond Green wants uh 25 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: max deal. Let that sink in for a sec. And 26 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: and again I'm a Draymond Green fan. Obviously the guy 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: has done a lot. If you are looking at paying 28 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: Draymond Green for what he's done and accomplished, then sure 29 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,639 Speaker 1: give him max money because he was a MAX player. 30 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: This isn't shades of Kobe Bryant with the Lakers at 31 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: the end where Kobe is like, I want to Max 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: and they paid him all the money and he wasn't 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: the player he U was and it hamstrung them and 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: they could and they were awful, and they went into 35 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: the weeds for six years of our gaul garbage until 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: Lebron came and saved him. So Draymond is thirty two 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: turning thirty three. I believe in marches it and and 38 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: the real question here is, well, what do you pay 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: somebody who was so instrumental to what you built to 40 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: your dynasty. But he's clearly not the player he was, 41 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be thirty three next next March, so 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: right before the playoffs he will turn thirty three. He 43 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: was benched during these finals. He statistically had a poor year. 44 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: He has not been an All NBA player in a 45 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: number of years. He was an All Star, but what 46 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: does that even mean. We're talking about a guy who 47 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: was scared to shoot the basketball in the playoffs. In 48 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: the playoffs, he averaged eight points and six rebounds a game. 49 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, eight points, seven rebounds, six assists. Those were 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: his playoff averages. Is that max number? Playoff stats? Eight 51 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: seven and six? Folks, he shot twenty on threes back 52 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: in seen with Kevin Durant and Curry. He shot. He 53 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: has tailed off since that season. Is now looking like 54 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: the outlier. I mean, you have to be hard pressed 55 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: to find the last time Draymond Green hung thirty or 56 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: even twenty five points in the game. And I know 57 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: he was a great player back in the day, and 58 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: back in the day, of course, is five years ago. 59 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: He's clearly in decline. It's fair to say at this 60 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: point Draymond Green Hall of Famer at all, he's gonna 61 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: be All of Famer. Stop arguing right now. Currently and 62 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: going forward, he's an offensive liability. At the same time, 63 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: he's the defensive heartbeat of the team, and he was 64 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: only second team All Defense this year. And if you're 65 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: the Warriors, I know it's easy. The fans are gonna say, oh, 66 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: you gotta pay Draymond, You pay Clay played Curry, you 67 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: play Draymond. You gotta keep the Big three together. The 68 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: tax bill this past year was three hundred and sixty 69 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: two million, largest in NBA history. I know that that 70 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: the new Chase Center prints money, but how long is 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: that gonna last? And are the owners, the billionaires, willing 72 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: to continue to pay larger tax bills if they're not 73 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: winning titles. I mean, you have to extend and pay 74 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: will you Andrew Wiggins? That's obvious. I think Green is 75 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: a little more dicey. Wiggins only twenty seven right now, 76 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: But you have to pay Wiggins. I mean he guarded 77 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: the opponent's best player on the perimeter, Jayson Tatum, and 78 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: Tatum out a horrible series. I don't think it was 79 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: fully Wiggins, but Wiggins was instrumental he's the perfect two 80 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: or three Andrew Wiggins. You have to pay Jordan Pool, 81 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: who's going to be in line for big money. You 82 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: want to extend Steph Curry's prime. Pay Jordan Pool. I 83 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: know he doesn't play a ton of defense, but offensively 84 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: he can be a total machine. And I did have somebody. 85 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: I went on Cowherd Show last week and I said, 86 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: there's no way I'm trading Jordan Pool. No wait, oh wait, 87 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: not any Kevin Duranta, I'm not giving up Jordan Pool. 88 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: And somebody in the league texting me, ja, are we 89 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: sure Jordan's Pool is not Tyler Hero Part two? I 90 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: was like, oh okay, so I went, that's interesting, let 91 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: me go look up Tyler Hero. And the guy said, 92 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: remember Tyler Hero. During the Heats run to the finals, 93 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: he was a twenty year old rookie. Against the Celtics 94 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: in the Conference Finals, he had average nineteen a game. 95 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: He had thirty seven in Game four, and against the 96 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: Lakers in the Finals, he averaged fourteen a game. But 97 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: he was just twenty year old rookie. He has not 98 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: been as awesome the last two seasons, and now he's 99 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: in every Heat trade package known to man. When they 100 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: could have traded him at the height. Now it's like, yeah, 101 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: you can have Tyler Hero, and it's like do we 102 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: do we want Tyler Hero. Is Jordan's Pool going to 103 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: be the next Tyler Hero? I think that's a little 104 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: bit strong, pulls a little bit older. He's twenty three 105 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: putting up big, big buckets. He's not as Instagram And 106 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: I hate to really tag Tyler Hero with this, but 107 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: Tyler Hero enjoyed his quick rise to fame. You show 108 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: him with the I G models and then of course 109 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: the famous stories where he's, you know, cheating on the 110 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: girl and she just had a baby, and it's just 111 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear he's enjoying his celebrity in South Beach. 112 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Pool in these playoffs was unbelievable against Denver in 113 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: the first round, one game, seventeen a game against Memphis, 114 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: and he tailed off in each series as it went on, 115 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: sixteen a game against the MAVs and then only thirteen 116 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: a game against the Celtics in the finals. But thirty 117 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: eight percent from three against Boston, fort from three against Dallas. 118 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: This is a guy who can light it up forty 119 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: percent from three against Denver for the playoffs. For the 120 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: entire postseason, Jordan's Pool shot thirty nine percent from deep. 121 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's Curry like, but when you can 122 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: go fifty thirty nine in the playoffs, yeah you're gonna 123 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: get a back steal. And then if you look at 124 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: the regular season, you know how you always say the 125 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: Lakers got a wrest Lebron, they gotta wrest Lebron, have 126 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: him sit out, have Russell Westbrook run the team. So 127 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: Russ had run Washington and got them into the playoffs. 128 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Russ goes to l A and when Lebron was not there, 129 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: Russ was doing nothing. And then when Lebron was there, 130 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: Russ is not doing much. You want to give Curry 131 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: knights off, no back to backs. Jordan Pool has proven 132 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: for the for a month the month of March, he 133 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: averaged twenty five a game. Curry was out Pool average 134 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: game and shot from deep. The guy is a walking bucket. 135 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: He just is a scoring machine. He's better than Jordan Clarkson, 136 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: He's better than Tyler Hero. You have to pay him 137 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: and and so who gets squeezed out here? And I 138 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: think it's kind of gotta be Draymond Green. Now he 139 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: has said he wants a maximum contract. He's eligible August 140 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: three to sign a four year deal. I just don't 141 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: know how you do that. If you're Golden state that 142 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough one. You don't want to 143 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: tick off Draymond Green. He's borderline or a placeable given 144 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: all that he does. But with cominga with Wiseman, if 145 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: those guys can emerge quickly, you know, I don't think 146 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: you ever forget about Draymond. But I'm just gonna think 147 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: about this for set guys. If you don't offer him 148 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: the max, and Draymond says, I'm taking my wares and 149 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to Charlotte. Are we hearing anything about Draymond 150 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: Green and Charlotte? If he goes to Washington, he goes 151 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: to Orlando, what's he putting up in those cities without 152 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: steph career around him? And again, this is not a 153 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: knock on Draymond Green. I'm saying at this stage in 154 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: his career, if he goes somewhere else, if he threatens worries, 155 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: I'm believing I will I will walk out the door. 156 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: Will you You made a lot of money, Draymond. You 157 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: want to win championships for the next three years or 158 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: content or do you want to go somewhere and be 159 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: a role player. Maybe? Yeah. I don't know that he 160 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: fits anywhere else really, and I don't think he gets 161 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: a MAX from the Warriors. All Right, without further ado, 162 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: let's get to our guest, Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated. 163 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: Jason likes to think he knows everything when it comes 164 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: to sports. I know what sports stance want, but for 165 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does. Let's 166 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: just say I know a guy who knows a guy 167 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into straight fire. 168 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: One are the hardest working guys in NFL media. He's 169 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: in the middle of his tour, going to all the camps, 170 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: driving around, flying, yucking it up with coaches, and he 171 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: made some time to talk to me. I'm honored, Albert Brier, 172 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: the legend s I. I mean, you're everywhere basically TV, 173 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: writing radio. What don't you do, Albert? What? Seriously? Well, 174 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: right now at the spring Hill Suites in Latrolle, pennsylvaniare 175 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: right by the airport. Believe it or not. Believe it 176 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: or not, there is an airport here. So uh, very 177 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: glamorous life I'm living Jim Pittsburgh Steel. You'll be out 178 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: of a briefcase for sorry, a suitcase for what the 179 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. Yeah, yeah, it's uh you know. 180 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: I I actually like I do the first like of 181 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: it every year by car, and that's an interesting experience. 182 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: It's because, um, it allows me to make my schedule, 183 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: which is good because like if a coach wants to 184 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: talk to me or you know whatever, and like I 185 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: like they can't make it work with their schedule, I 186 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: can be flexible with them. Like so in Buffalo for example, like, um, 187 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: this was yesterday, two days ago whatever. It was like, I, 188 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, I wound up like two people came off 189 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: the field at once. I had to talk to both 190 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: of them, got one of them right away, the other 191 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: ones that to get me after so I had to wait, 192 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: and I, uh, I wound up. But but I you know, 193 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: the fact that I had driven me a big difference 194 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: because I was like, I can wait until seven o'clock 195 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: to come and meet with you, and then you know, 196 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: I wind up driving late at night. So uh yeah, 197 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm on the road for about two and a half 198 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: weeks before I go home. That's the first leg of it, 199 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: and I'll do I think it's the first seven eight 200 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: days by car, which I mean in tails, basically driving 201 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: from Rochester, New York to Minneapolis. Wow, okay, I mean 202 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: that's all the things. There's like there's like teams at 203 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: three hour. If you look at it on a map, 204 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: it actually does make sense because it's not I'm driving 205 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: straight across, it's just their teams every three hours or so. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Um, 206 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: let's start. I don't know if you've seen Baltimore yet, 207 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: but I have to start with the Lamar Jackson situation. 208 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: We had a guest on Albert last week who said 209 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson regionally does not have any commercials in Baltimore. 210 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: The kinder Justin Tucker has more commercials than Lamar Jackson. 211 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: And and now he's like squabbling this contract situation. I 212 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: don't know, it sounds like there's not going to be 213 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: a deal done. Are you Are you surprised by this? No? 214 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: I like, I don't think that this is I don't 215 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: think we can look at this like a conventional quarterback 216 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: contract because it's not a conventional quarterback negotiation. And the 217 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: fact that he doesn't have an agent. I think it's 218 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: a major factor here, um in the information flow and 219 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: how quiet things have been. And it's not just because 220 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: Lamar doesn't have an agent. It's also because of Lamar 221 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: who Lamar is. And you know, I think the Ravens 222 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: understand the trust is very very important to Lamar, and 223 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: as a result of that, they've kept the circle that's 224 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: involved in this very very tight. So there are very 225 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: few people who know what's going on, who are informed 226 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: on it, and who are involved in the day to 227 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: day um. And I mean like, look like when you're 228 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: dealing with a player directly, it is more complicated because 229 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: there's a normal process to negotiation. You and I have 230 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: been there negotiations before, you know, and there's like a 231 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: normal process to it where someone low balls somebody the 232 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: other side, like makes an outrageous proposal, and you know, 233 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: because their intermediaries involved, ultimately, no her, no, no, no 234 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: feelings are hurt, right Like, ultimately you wind up getting 235 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: to an answer with this. When you're dealing directly with 236 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: the player, it's a lot more complicated. And so you know, 237 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: that's why you've heard the messaging from Baltimore along has 238 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: been well, you know, we're gonna do it at his pace. 239 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: We're going to allow him to dictate the way this goes. 240 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: It's because the Ravens understand how important trust is in 241 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: this whole thing. I think that's also why you haven't 242 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: gotten like the sort of blow by blow that you 243 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 1: get with contracts normally, because for Eric to Coasta, for 244 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: John Harbob, for all the guys that are involved in 245 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: that negotiations, Steve Ashati, like, they understand that, you know, 246 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: breaking Lamar's trust in any way he could really poison 247 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: the talks. And because there's not an agent involved in 248 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: Lamar's side, we're not hearing his side come out either. Yeah. 249 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: Like the Kyler Murray one was quite ugly and a 250 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: lot of demands. I'm just curious, do you think Lamar 251 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: is asking for give me a little bit more than 252 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: what Kyler got because I have an m v P 253 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: and more playoff appearances? Or do you think he wants 254 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed? Yeah, and that's the million dollar question, and 255 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: I wish I had the answer to that. Um. You know, 256 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: it was interesting though to hear one of the few 257 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: owners that actually came out and and and spoke on 258 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: what Jimmy Aslum and the Browns did with Steve Ashati, 259 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: and he actually was one of the people who publicly 260 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: said and criticized the Browns UM for doing the deal 261 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: they did with the Shawn Um. And it's interesting obviously, 262 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: because you know, he's got his own quarterback negotiation to 263 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: worry about. I think this though about that, Like I 264 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: would just tell you, like I can remember when Kirk 265 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: Cousins did his deal, and I can remember talking to people, 266 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: um with teams and agents about whether or not that 267 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: was going to change the dynamic, and the the uniform 268 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: answer I got back was wait to see what happens 269 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: with the next ones. And you know, after Kirk did 270 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: his deal, then Matt Ryan did his deal, and Aaron 271 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: Rodgers did his deal, and their deals were more conventional 272 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: quarterback deals, and so I think it was sort of 273 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: the same thing with the Shawn Like you know, you 274 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: go back a few months and like people I talked 275 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: to her saying the exact same thing, watched the next 276 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: few ones, like and then you'll know whether or not 277 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: it's a real trend setter. Derek Carr signed after UM, 278 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: after after Deshaun Watson did a conventional quarterback deal, Deshaun 279 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: Watson or Kyler Murray more conventional quarterback deal, and so 280 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: things will be harder for Lamar to get one because 281 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: what's happened since then, since DeShawn did his deal, like 282 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: kind of showed DeShawn and Steel to be a little 283 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: bit more of an outlier. Interesting. I can see him 284 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: playing hardball. Um I I hope he doesn't. I'm a fan. Alright, 285 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: one more quarterback question before we get onto some takes 286 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: I have for fantasy gambling in the NFL altogether. Jimmy Garoppolo, 287 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: you know San Francisco has committed to Trey Lance. I 288 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: think it's a mistake. We don't need to go over that, 289 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: but Garoppolo, Are we just waiting for someone around the 290 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: league to get hurt and then Garoppolo swoops in to 291 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: save the day. Yeah. I mean, like, I think the 292 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: way both, you know, Garoppolo side and the team look 293 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: at it right now is there's like this two to 294 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: three week window before he's gonna be fully cleared to 295 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: actually practice again. He could throw now, but you know, 296 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: as far as just being fully cleared for contact and 297 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: all of that, we're still two or three weeks out. 298 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: The hope is that something material it changes with another 299 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: team somewhere in the league over the next two or 300 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: three weeks. That could be an injury, It could be 301 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: a team looking at this quarterback situation and saying, this 302 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: isn't quite what we thought it would be, and like 303 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: if that happens, And that's one step, the more complicated 304 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: step here. The second step is what to do about 305 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: the money. And this is different than the Baker situation 306 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: because Baker's money was all guaranteed and so Baker kind 307 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: of held all the cards here. With Jimmy, like the 308 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: Niners could cut him tomorrow and that million dollars just 309 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: goes away. And so like for Jimmy, it's gonna be 310 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: a matter of the Niners don't have a ton of 311 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: leverage here, but they can hold onto my rights until 312 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: week one and cut me then. And so if I 313 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: want to get into a situation earlier than that, um 314 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: where I can compete to play in two and set 315 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: myself up for a new contract in three, I kind 316 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: of have to play ball with them. And like then 317 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: it's you know, a matter of if you're talking to 318 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: another team, still getting paid what you think you're worth, 319 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: but understanding that like the point of the off season, 320 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: we're at cash. Budgets and cap room across the NFL 321 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: have have completely dried up. And so like, if you're Jimmy, 322 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: is that ten million is a twelve million? It's certainly 323 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: not twenty five million, you know, And so one way 324 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: or another, like it's just it's complicated because Jimmy is 325 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out where that number is and 326 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: like find a place where he actually thinks he's gonna 327 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: be able to get in the field. And again, I 328 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: think at this point in the game, it's gonna take 329 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: something materially changing over the next two or three weeks 330 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: and someone else's camp, whether that's by Andrey or the 331 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: playoff quarterbacks somewhere else. Fox Sports Radio has the best 332 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 333 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the 334 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 335 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: Probably too spicy, but someone's gonna call me a to 336 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: a hater anyway. Miami's new coaches Mike McDaniel, who came 337 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: from San Francisco. Now I know they have bridgewaters to 338 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: back up, but if toa starts to look shaky, do 339 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: you think they would consider Jimmy Garoppolo A good question, because, 340 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: like you said, there's the obvious um connection there. I 341 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: just think the owner is really determined to see what 342 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: they have in too uh. And you know they made 343 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: the run last year right before the trade deadline Deshaun Watson. 344 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: It almost got done and after four or five months 345 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: there was the reset. And you know when they when 346 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: they hired Mike, part of it was we want answers 347 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: on to a tonk of a looa And I mean, like, 348 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: look like you and I like, I like, I don't like. 349 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a great chance that he's gonna 350 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: be their quarterback five years from now. But they invested 351 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: the fifth overall picking him. And part of the reason 352 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: you go out and you get Tyreek and you get 353 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: to Toronto Armstead is you sort of take the excuses away, 354 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: right like you can like say with two well, the 355 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: group around him wasn't great in the last few years 356 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: and he was dealing with different coordinators and there are 357 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: valid reasons where you can say, look like, valid reasons 358 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: why Toa hasn't made it yet. So like, I think 359 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: part of what this offseason was about for the Dolphins 360 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: was taking the excuses away. It's hiring him, you know, 361 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: a very quarterback centric coach and Mike mc daniel, um, 362 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: a guy who runs a very quarterback friendly offense and 363 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: then putting pieces in place to get the most out 364 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: of him. Um. You know, like that offense that Mike 365 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: McDaniel is gonna run, it is not that different from 366 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: the one that too a rounded at Alabama. And at 367 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: Alabama too had all these catching run guys, you know, 368 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: whether it was Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs, um Davante Smith, 369 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: Well you know in Jalen Whaddle of course, to now 370 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: where does he have these two of the best catching 371 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: run guys in the NFL and Waddle and Hill. So 372 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: what you've done is you've created this scenario where all 373 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: the excuses are gone and like now you're gonna get 374 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: answers on tour and I think because the owner has 375 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: been so determined to get that final answer on to uh, like, 376 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: I think two was gonna get some runway before the 377 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: actual up the flag. One more on on since this 378 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: guy Michael Floor was his passing game coordinator in San 379 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: Francisco and Robert sala is the Jets head coach, if 380 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is stinking up the joint. But the Jets 381 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: defense has them in games and they're like, I don't know, 382 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: the three and two or whatever, do you think they 383 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: would kick the tires thing? And like, you know what, 384 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 1: let's make a run for the playoffs back at the 385 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: end of the schedules manageable. I think we got a 386 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: shot here. But Zack isn't the guy. It's an interesting 387 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: question because you know, like Zach had a really up 388 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: and down rookie year, like legitimately, like and I wrote 389 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: about this a couple of weeks ago, Legitimately had like 390 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: case of the Epps in the middle of the year, 391 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: and like and I and like had to work through that, 392 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: and you know, I think they feel like they're in 393 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: a much better place right now. I think it's really 394 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: difficult j Mac when you of the coach who signed 395 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: off on trading away Sam Donald, who they and look, 396 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: we know what what's happened with Donald since, but you 397 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: you signed off on trading away Sam Donald, who the 398 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: team invested the third overall pick in, and then you 399 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: drafted his replacement second overall, and you drafted his replacement 400 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: over and we'll see what happens with the other guys, 401 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: but you drafted his replacement over Trey Lance, over Justin Fields, 402 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: over Mac Jones, and so like. I think the complicating 403 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: factor for the Jets is that Joe Douglas and Robert 404 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: Salo really are married to Zach Wilson, and if it 405 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: doesn't work and they say, okay, like let's go get 406 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, you know, then you're really kind of putting 407 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: yourself out there where if it doesn't work with Jimmy, 408 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: then now we're talking about maybe there are being some 409 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: problems after the year, or maybe everyone yes, yes, yeah, 410 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: like problems for everyone. You have those sorts of problems. Well, 411 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: this has been happening with the Jets for a decade, 412 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: but I'm not allowed to ask too many Jets questions. 413 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: So let's move on. Spicy take number one, and again 414 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: this is numbers driven has the league and this is 415 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: probably too strong figured out Patrick Mahomes. He is coming 416 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: off his worst year as a pro, most turnovers, lowest 417 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: yards per tempors QBR, worst QB rating, the too high 418 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: safety kind of flux summoned him a bit, and now 419 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: he loses Tyreek Hill. I know Andy Reid is a genius. 420 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: I know there'll be adjustments, but I just gotta wonder. 421 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: I think Kelsey is like thirty three and a lot 422 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: of unproven guys on the outside. I think he'll put 423 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: up numbers in the regular season, but I don't know 424 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: this four straight a f C title games. I just 425 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: wonder if that's in jeopardy this year. I had a 426 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: long conversation with him about this back in April, and 427 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting in that, like he said 428 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: that he thought like the first half of last year 429 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: was really good for him because it forced him to 430 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: play a different way and basically what the challenge was. 431 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: And I think you saw the too high concept across 432 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: the NFL, right Like I think like like a lot 433 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: of teams were going to that to combat what's happening 434 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: on offense in the league, and obviously the Chiefs have 435 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: been trend setters in that regard. Like I think like 436 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: Patrick felt like it forced him to learn how to 437 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: take easy money, to take the layups, and that's something 438 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: that he sort of struggled with because he didn't really 439 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: have to for a lot of points earlier in his career. 440 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: And like the challenge for deep the challenges defenses were 441 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: putting in front of him, and this is actually like 442 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: how like Belichick plays him in Belichick has been pretty 443 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: decent against him, not perfect, but like decent against him 444 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: over the years. It's like, can you put the ten 445 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: twelve four team play drives together? And if you look 446 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: at how he played in the back end of the year, 447 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: it was a lot better. Now. I think what the 448 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: Bengals did to him, which was I'm genius, Like they 449 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: took that and a lot of what the Chiefs were 450 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: doing them were like these underneath crossers just dumped the 451 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: ball to Tyreek, dumped the ball to Hardman and let 452 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: them run after the catch, right like they were doing 453 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: a lot more of that the Bengals, Like I'm not 454 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: excusing what happened in the second half of that game, 455 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: but they took like defensive lineman and dropped them right 456 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: in that area to mess with Mahomes's head and it 457 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: worked right Like so I just like sort of look 458 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: at some of this stuff. Is I think Patrick's got 459 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: like the right head about him to handle this stuff. 460 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: And I thought, I think just from my conversation with him, 461 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: like it like the fact that he looked at that 462 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: as a learning experience and something that like he was 463 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: actually legitimately happy he had to go through, tells me 464 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: he's really going to get there. The interesting part about 465 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: this is gonna be his cap numbers start to go 466 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: up now, and so like part of getting rid of 467 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: Tyreke isn't just like, oh, well, defenses are playing us 468 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: this way, so we're gonna bring in bigger receivers and 469 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna like CounterPunch right. Like, It's also like when 470 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: you're quarterback is making that kind of money, Now all 471 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you can't just be the most aggressive 472 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: team at every single position. You've got to cut corners somewhere. 473 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: And that second contract like demands on the quarterback to 474 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: make up the difference rise exponentially. And so now it's 475 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: gonna be on Patrick to do a little bit more 476 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: to lift people around him, which is gonna be an 477 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: interesting challenge because he's got a bunch of guys around 478 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: him now, you know, in guys like mvs like Juju, 479 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: who like could use it to kind of, I guess, 480 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: find the next level for their own careers. So I 481 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: think there's a little bit more on Patrick to kind 482 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: of raise the level of people around him, and part 483 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: of that, you know, the natural evolution of a quarterback 484 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: who has a lot of early success in herds, a 485 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: second contract sticking in the a f C West Albert. 486 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: You ask a lot of people who's coaching the Raiders now, 487 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: and people have to pause for a second before thinking, Oh, yeah, 488 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, I don't know, he's way under the radar, 489 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: unlike time when he went to Denver and like blew 490 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: it up instantly, was like, get Cutler out of here. All, 491 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: Oh my guy, I don't know what what what's your 492 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: vibe on the Raiders. I mean, they spend a lot 493 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: on Davante Adams, they got the defender Chandler Jones. Jones 494 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: like they the arrow should be pointing up, but I don't. 495 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: For some reason, I'm just not hearing a lot of 496 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: pop or juice out of the Raiders. Yeah. I spent 497 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: two days with them in the spring, and I just 498 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: like what struck me about is how unpatrioted like that 499 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: place is, you know what I mean, Like like it 500 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: really like Josh is like prioritized relationship building, and Josh, 501 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: I think it was really reflective about what went wrong 502 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: in Denver, and it's just it's not New England at all, 503 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: you know. And I think like getting a second chance, 504 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: like and having to like and and waiting. As long 505 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: as he did take a second chance, you know, I 506 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a different Josh McDaniels. And like 507 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: the offensive, mine was never the problem. I mean, go 508 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: look at like Kyle Orton's numbers in Denver, like and 509 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: like I mean, he made a ton of mistakes, like 510 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: with the relationships and building no question right, like Jay 511 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: Cutler got driven out of their Brandon Marshall got driven 512 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,239 Speaker 1: out of there, all the rest of it. But like 513 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: the coaching part has never been a problem for Josh, 514 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: and it wasn't even a problem for him in Denver. 515 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: Like the tactical stuff. It was more like learning how 516 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: to like lead a program and learning how to run 517 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: an organization and learning how to delegate, not trying to 518 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: do everything yourself. And I think like Josh has always 519 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: had great potential as a head coach, but he had 520 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: to learn some of that stuff, and I think he 521 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: has now, and I think he's in a much better 522 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: position to succeed. And that was a playoff team last 523 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: year too, And I and I think one of the 524 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: challenges in taking over a team like that, right, And 525 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: this is like sort of an interesting dynamic when you 526 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: look at new coaches. If you go in and you're 527 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: taking over a team that was like one in fifteen 528 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 1: the year before, it's really easy to go in and 529 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: say like this sucks. That sucks, you guys suck. Like, 530 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: listen to me, I have all the answers because the 531 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: I before me was a buffoon, and like, we're doing 532 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: things my way now. When you're in the playoffs the 533 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: year before, it's much harder to do that because when 534 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: things get hard on like everybody, they can say, wait 535 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: a second, it's not like what we were doing last 536 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: year was that bad, you know? And so I think 537 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: Josh has been so cognizant of some of those things 538 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: and has made it like so much like I'm gonna 539 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: make you a better player, I'm gonna build a relationship 540 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: with you. I want you to trust me, And this 541 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: is gonna be about this is gonna be about what 542 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: happened before. It's gonna be about making you a better player. 543 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: Like I just get that vibe that that environment exists 544 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: in Vegas now for my time there. Now we'll see 545 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, everybody's undefeated, and they play in a really 546 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: difficult division and what's gonna be a really really difficult division, 547 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: But that thing wasn't broken, and I think Josh is 548 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: a good enough coach to give them an extra year. 549 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 550 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 551 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 552 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: search f are to listen live. More likely to get 553 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: to nine or ten wins this year. Daniel Jones and 554 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: the Giants or Mac Jones and the Patriots. I'm kind 555 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: of bullish on the Giants. I know some people are 556 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: on the Brian Dable bandwagon because you know, he's just 557 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: if he can fix Josh Allen like he fixed Daniel Jones, 558 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: and they've got some pop in the offense. The defense 559 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: obviously as concerns, but I think the McDaniels lost for 560 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is going to be massive. And the skill 561 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: position players, they're not good. They beat really bad teams 562 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 1: last year. Albert. Yeah, I just think, like so, I 563 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: believe this like about the NFL, Like I think games 564 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: are one of the margins, and I think that's where 565 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots have always been great. Is that they owned 566 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: the margins right, like they situational situationally, they're really great 567 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: penalties turnovers, like they're just they win. They went on 568 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: the margins, they almost they let the other team fall 569 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: in its face, like they have won so many games 570 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 1: that way over the years, and so like, I don't 571 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: think New England is going to fall on their face 572 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: this year. The roster has issues. I think there's a 573 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: talent deficiency at premium positions on defense, Like I think 574 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: they're good, not great, like from a talent perspective on offense, 575 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: and I'm with you, like I'm a little worried about 576 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: the loss of Josh there. And I think like Manatrician 577 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: Joe Judge are better coaches than people give them credit for, 578 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: like better football coaches. Well in New England they might be, 579 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: but right and like but but but you're talking about 580 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: a special team's coaching a defensive coach now running offense, 581 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: And so I think that's the issue. And so I've 582 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: got a lot of questions about them. It's just hard 583 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: for me to see where they don't get to like 584 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: eight or nine wins, you know, like even with those 585 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: issues that I just detailed, it's hard for me not 586 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: to see a Bill Belichick team that's able to win 587 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: on the margins and let the other team stubb its 588 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: toe and take advantage all the time. Like it's hard 589 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: for me not to see a team like that getting 590 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: the eight or nine wins, and I think they'll get there. 591 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: Whereas with the Giants, I think this is that this 592 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: whole year. I think for that for that new group, 593 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: there is about evaluating the roster. This for Joe Shane 594 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: and Brian day Ball who came from Buffalo, this is 595 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: essentially like what two eighteen was for the Bills, where 596 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna eat a bunch of cat money. We're gonna 597 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: evaluate the guys here and we'll see where it goes 598 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: from there. And I think the owner wants them to 599 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: get a good look at Daniel Jones and Brian dave 600 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: Ball's offense. I don't have great hopes that it's gonna 601 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: become more than it's been the last few years um 602 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: when it comes to that. But I think the Giants, 603 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: I think this is like very much a bridge year 604 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: for them, and so I think they'll be, you know what, 605 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: five six wins somewhere like that. I don't think the 606 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: Patriots are gonna be in that that that uh on 607 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: the paget's gonna be in that realm Okay? So two 608 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: more number one? I know you like a lot of 609 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: pepper on your food. What is the level of hotness 610 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy's seat will be in Dallas after they 611 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: open with a loss to Tampa and the Bengals? Will 612 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: it be like a ghost pepper hot for McCarthy? Uh? 613 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: Like Jerry Jones, is he gonna have the itchy trigger 614 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: finger because they were good last year the playoff loss? 615 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: You know it's still he's still pissed about that. You 616 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: know what's interesting, It's like a lot of people act 617 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: like Jerry has like this itchy trigger finger when it 618 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: comes to firing coaches. Does he does it? I know 619 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: he does not. He just gets because people look at 620 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: his personality and it looks like somebody like who would 621 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: go off and fire everybody. But if you really look 622 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: at it, like Jason Garrett survived there for a long time, 623 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips lasted longer than people thought. Obviously, Parcel has 624 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: left on his own volition. Dave Campo survived three years. 625 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: Like it's like the guy doesn't have history for like 626 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: having this itchy trigger finger. That said, there's the relationship 627 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: with Sean Payton, Like, Sean Payton has ties to the 628 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: Dallas area. It's where his son and daughter grew up. Yep. 629 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: I just like it's hard for me to see a 630 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: scenario where things don't go well early for the Cowboys. 631 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: The Sean Payton thing isn't hovering over Mike McCarthy. So 632 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: are we gonna go with ghost Pepper? Then? Is that 633 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: what you're going? I think so ghost Pepper? That is 634 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: brutal um. All right, we'll wrap up with everybody's favorite 635 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: player in football, Tom Brady. You know I'm doing. I'm 636 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: reading all these previews of the Bucks, and I totally 637 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: forgot that in the playoff game last year, they didn't 638 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: have Worf's at right tackle, they didn't have Godwin, and 639 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: then of course they didn't have Antonio brown Um and 640 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: they kind of fall behind the Yeah, they were really 641 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: they The injuries mounted late and they fell behind early, 642 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: came back against the Rams, eventually lost. Now they add 643 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: Julio Jones. I don't think anybody's clamoring to get him 644 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: on their fantasy roster early. But no, Gronk Godwin is 645 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: still hurt. But I just look at this team and 646 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, how how are they not winning like eleven 647 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: twelve games? Yeah, I I I can you look at 648 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: their division too, like Carolina, Atlanta, New Orleans, Like I 649 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: think New Orleans is more talented than people give him 650 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: credit for. Like I think, if Jamis can be good, 651 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't think Jami's needs to be great. If Jamis 652 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: can be good, Like, I still think that that's a 653 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 1: pretty good team, And the Saints have played really well 654 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: against the bus the last few years. But I'm with you, 655 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: Like I think Tom Brady is like automatic ten wins. Yeah, 656 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: like any team he plays on like automatic ten wins. 657 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, the talent, like the depth of talent is 658 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: a thing about it, right, Like so like you look 659 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: at the receiver position, I mean, like Julio is a 660 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: shadow of what he was five years ago, but it's 661 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: nice to have him in case, you know. And like 662 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: like like the running back position, they've been deep there, 663 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: they've been deep a tight end. Maybe grand comes back, 664 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't, but you have both Bright and Rudolph there. 665 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: Like I think the defense is like like you still 666 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: have like a good amount of like ascending young players 667 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: like Devin White and Nantoine Winfield Davis. But there's still 668 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: like good young talent, Like I think Joe Tryon is 669 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: gonna wind up being a really good player for them. 670 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: I think they have ten starters back on defense. And yeah, 671 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: and they added what is it Hicks in the middle 672 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: for Sue like that it Hicks is healthy, that's a 673 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: good trade. Yeah. Yeah, And and I think having bowls. 674 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: I think Todd's gonna be interesting in a second time around. 675 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: Like I think Todd is really going to empower Brady 676 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: to run the offense the way he sees fit. And 677 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: I think, like Todd, I think a lot of things 678 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: about Todd are gonna remind um Brad, like the way 679 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: Todd's gonna run that camp, the way Todd's run that 680 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: program even so far, I know for Brady there's like 681 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: some reminders the way New England was, Like some of 682 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: the issues is like when you the friction with Brady 683 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: and arians, like some of it was about like how 684 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: regimented and discipline New England was. And maybe Brady didn't 685 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: love it when he was there at the end, but 686 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: then you get out of it and you miss it 687 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: a little bit, right, like in Arians, like it was 688 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: a really good head coach, but ran a much looser ship. 689 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: Like Todd Bowles isn't Bruce Arians. Those two are very 690 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: close obviously, and I've known each other forever, but Bowls 691 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: is a little bit more from the Parcels school, and 692 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: like I think most people who have been around Todd 693 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: would tell you, like, he's a Parcels guy first, you know. 694 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: And so I think, like some of the things that 695 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: Todd's put in place already and the way he's gonna 696 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: run camp and the way I think they're gonna operate 697 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: during the season, it is probably gonna be a little 698 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: bit more comfortable than Tom with for Tom than working 699 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: for Bruce has been the last couple of years. I 700 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: wonder that leads to one last final question, um do 701 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: you think And again I don't think we ever had 702 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: clarity on this that Bruce Arians said, ah, you know what, 703 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna retire and then Brady said, oh shucks, 704 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back there. Arians is no longer there. 705 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: Or do you think Brady said I want to come 706 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: back and Arians is like, no, man, I'm I'm not 707 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: I'm not dealing with that. I'm out of here. Yeah. 708 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: My understanding is like that Bruce had considered it, and 709 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: Bruce really wants to like and again like every indication 710 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: I got, like and I'm maybe I'm missing something here, 711 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: but you know, I think that there are sort of 712 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: two separate things and that I think Brady that's six 713 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: weeks that he was quote unquote retired, Like I think 714 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: that there was like like part of it was, hey, like, 715 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: let's see if there's other opportunities out there. Would Miami 716 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: be an opportunity, Would San Francisco be an opportunity. I 717 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: think that was something that was discussed. And like the Bucks, 718 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: like if you like, you go back and you look 719 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: at it. Their messaging was very very clear, like you 720 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: go to the combine and go back and read some 721 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: of this stuff like when Arians came out and said 722 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: we wouldn't trade him for five first round picks, and 723 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: when Jason light said if he's gonna play anywhere, it's 724 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: gonna be here. Their messaging was very strong. The reason why, 725 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: um is because they knew like he wanted to come back. 726 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: They knew that there was a good chance like that 727 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: that he was gonna find his way under the field 728 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: in two and they wanted to inform him if it's 729 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 1: gonna happen, it's gonna be here. And they knew because 730 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: the Bucks had so many free agents, from God When 731 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: to Carlton Davis, to and Dominicans. I mean, the list 732 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: of free agents was insane. Alex Capp obviously left and 733 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: he hang on to Ryan Jensen. Like for Brady that 734 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: the start of free agency created a decision point, which 735 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: was if I don't say I'm coming back now, and 736 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: the Bucks hold onto my rights, but I don't, you know, 737 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't declare that I'm coming back now, 738 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: all those free agents are gonna be out of here. 739 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: The team is gonna be a shell of itself, and 740 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be screwed. So he sort of got squeezed 741 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: by that deadline, Whereas I think for Arians there was 742 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: a little bit of I'm thinking about this, do I 743 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: still want to coach? And now Brady's back and I've 744 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: got a chance to leave something really really great for 745 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, and I think that that was a huge 746 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 1: part of Area's decision. Was there friction between the two, yes, 747 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: Could that have been a factor? I didn't hear it 748 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: was a factor. But it's possible, it couldn't. Yeah. Uh 749 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles by the way, former Jets guy. So we 750 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: started with the Jets and we end with them because 751 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's my team, Albert Brier. Yes, s, I 752 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: enjoy the trip around the world and also football camps 753 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: and be safe out there man, all right, thanks to you, Mac,