1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to another edition of Big 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff live right here on Giants dot Com. It 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: feels like somewhere outside and it's perfect with Memorial Day 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: weekend right around that. It is about time. That's Jeff Eagles, 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: who's excited. This is John Schmulk, who's excited. Giants just 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: finished O T A Organized Team Activity number three. Uh, 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: they're off the practice field. That's in the books. Coach 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: sending the guys early for a nice four day Memorial 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Day weekend and they'll be back on Tuesday's for a 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: number four. World media availability for that on Giants dot Com. 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: A bunch of stuff I want to touch on. First 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 1: of all, yesterday Lance and Paul did a good job 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: in a nice guest form NFL referee. I'm not gonna 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: try to pronounce the last names. I'm gonna butcher it. 15 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: And they talked about some of the rule changes. So Jeff, 16 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: I think it's perfect, especially one of the rules, to 17 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: have a conversation with you about it today before we 18 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the O T A S 19 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: this week and we get to your calls at two 20 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: O one nine nine four. Just to give you a 21 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: little heads up. I don't know about any of them, 22 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: so just go ahead and give them to me, Um, 23 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: and then I'll be able to comment on them. But 24 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: I was all busy guest your day, you know, yes, 25 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: And I should point out the reason I did not 26 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: do the show yesterday. Well I'd like to split the 27 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: days up, obviously, But Shanahara had his tenth annual UM 28 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: golf outing the Shawn O'Hara Foundation, which benefits primarily cystic 29 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: vibrosis trying to find a Q for cf UM had 30 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: a great time. They're Unfortunately, like Mr Fiagles, I didn't 31 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: have a chance to golf. I was too busy getting 32 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: great quotes for a story that hopefully should be up 33 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: this weekend. I'll try to finish it this afternoon before 34 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: we leave for the weekend. And it was a great 35 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: event and shown does a fantastic job. It was a 36 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: great day. I mean it always is, and especially where 37 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: we were with Trump that coursed out in Bedminster, and 38 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: Sean does an amazing jobs, gets a lot of people, 39 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: there are a lot of good sponsors, raised over a 40 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: million dollars over the last ten years. That's that's amazing, 41 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: it really is. And it all goes to a great 42 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: cause and and you know, a lot of these golf 43 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: tournaments you kind of never really you know, you really 44 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: see the effect of it because you're actually there. There 45 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: are kids there with CF and and Shawan does a 46 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: good job at letting everybody know how this disease works. 47 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: And you know, CF is not contagious to you and I, 48 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: but but people, the kids can pass it from one 49 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: to the other, and they have different story different bacteria, 50 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: so they can actually make each other more sick if 51 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: they are, so they have to be. You know, it's 52 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: but anyways, a long story of it is it's a 53 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: great event. It's a it's a long day. But if 54 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna pick a long day to be outside beyond 55 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: the golf and by the way, just just to show 56 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: you the type of impact that it has. I think 57 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: you've been to all but two of his of his outings, 58 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: and you create a relationship with with a little girl 59 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: named Bell. I see a little girl not little anymore. 60 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: And you know when you met her she was like 61 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: a little tyke and now she was She didn't make 62 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: it to the outing yesterday, but she was playing goalie 63 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: for a lacrosse team and for those of you not 64 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: familiar with the disease, actually being able to play competitive 65 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: sports while dealing with a lung condition, which is basically 66 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: what CF does, folks. It builds your body doesn't process 67 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: things properly, and it builds up a very thick mucus 68 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: in your lung, so you have trouble breathing. So to 69 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: compete in a high school level sport and she's a 70 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: lacrosse goalie really just shows you know, how far they're 71 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: coming in their ability to treat this disease. I think 72 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: the life expenses at one it was in the low 73 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: twenties and now kids are regularly Bell's will, she has 74 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: a strong will to you know. She she did not 75 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: want this disease to affect her um and she's she's 76 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: very you know, she won't tell you a lot about it. 77 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 1: She just goes about her business. I mean literally, they're 78 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: they're taking twenty to forty to fifty pills a day, 79 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: these kids. And by the way, not to mention two 80 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: hours of therapy every morning when you wake up. Absolutely 81 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: and so you know, one of these events a few 82 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: years ago, um Bell actually went through her day. They 83 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: put it up okay, and she made a video this 84 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: is me at four thirty in the morning, you know, 85 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: and they heard her taking her therapy and then the medicine, 86 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: and just just to show people because you're when you're 87 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: at those events and you're you're raising money for a cause, 88 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: you really kind of want to know a little bit 89 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: about where the money is going and how is it 90 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: how is it affecting, you know, or helping these people 91 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: and what they go through. So it's a great event, 92 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: and Seawan does an amazing job. And and and it 93 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: was nicely to come out there and do a little 94 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: thing on Sean because he is very proud of it 95 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, and and and and and the final 96 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: thing I say about it is that the real tricky 97 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: thing is that there's so many strands of the disease 98 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: that they actually came out with a drug that I 99 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: don't think it's cured, but I think it's basically suppressed 100 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: them the symptoms of the disease three years ago called Kaleidoscope, 101 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: but it only affected the people that had it, So 102 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: you have to create different drugs based on all the 103 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: different strands and the different people. So it's a it's 104 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: an ongoing process and they do a great job at 105 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: the showing Hower Foundation. They work with the Cystic Fibrosis 106 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: Foundation and New Jersey do a great job too, so 107 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: it was great to be there and do it anyway. 108 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: So here's are the two news pieces of news show 109 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: on that popped yesterday. Um, I'll start with you because 110 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: it special team so kickoff. So obviously everyone kind of 111 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: thinks that the league is going towards the elimination of 112 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: the kickoff. No, because I think they're trying to figure 113 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: out ways to make the place safer. Because I think 114 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: players were three times more likely to get injured on 115 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: kickoffs and in other places, which makes sense. You're running 116 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: folk speed into each other. We get it. So here's 117 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: how they adjusted the rules on the kickoff. And I 118 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: know you're a punk, you're not a kicker, but get um. 119 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: Kickoff team must have five players on each side of 120 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: the ball. They already kind of made that adjustment a 121 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: few years ago where you couldn't overload one side, but 122 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: now it has to be even five on five on 123 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: either side of the kicker. Um. The team cannot line 124 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: up more than one yard from the restraining line, which 125 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: is basically you have to be lined with them between 126 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: the thirty four and the thirty five yard line. UM. 127 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: Players in other words, will not have a running start 128 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: to get down, and that's again get a limit speed 129 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: and impact. UM. At least two players must be lined 130 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: up outside the yard line number, and two players in 131 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: between the inbounds line and the yard number. So those 132 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: five players have to be spread out. Again, they're trying 133 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: to prevent one guy having to take on two or 134 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: three blockers here, just absolutely pumped. Yes, at least eight 135 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: players must be in the and this is for the 136 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: returning team. At least eight players must be in the 137 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: fifteen yards set up zone prior to kickoff. Only three 138 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: players can remain outside the setup zone. Basically, more players 139 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: are being moved closer to the ball when it's kicked, 140 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: so there's not as much to line up. The setup 141 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: zone I believe is starting at the forty five yard 142 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: line on the other side of the field. I'm not 143 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: mistaken or forty yard line stuthing like that. Yeah, So 144 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: basically players because the kick, the kick is now made 145 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: from the forty yard line, right, So I believe that 146 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: thirty five year and it got moved back I'm sorry, 147 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: the thirty five yard line. So I believe players can 148 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: line up between the forty yard line and midfield. Okay, 149 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: and that's just so that the players actually get together 150 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: closer because of the running. You know. Actually, you know what, 151 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: if I believe it has to be, it would have 152 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: to be ten yards. So I think between the four 153 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: or five and forty five maybe that those are those 154 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: those players in the setup zone will have to be. Um. 155 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: No wedge blocks are permitted, So not even two man 156 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: wedges anymore. That was a rule that they had eliminated 157 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: the big wedges a few years ago. But down no 158 00:06:54,520 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: more two man wedges either. Um, so that's a big change. Um. Basically, 159 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have two guys blowing up one man 160 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: or one man trying to blow up to man wedge, 161 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 1: which is going to prevent injuries. Um. Until the ball 162 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: is touched or the ball hits the ground, no player 163 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: on the receiving team may cross its restraining line or 164 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: initiate a block against the kicking team in the fifteen 165 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: yard area from the kicking team's restraining line. Effect eliminates 166 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: the jump set attack block where they try to kind 167 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: of take guys out. At the beginning of the special 168 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: teams play. The kicker kicks out high bounce and then 169 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: they go and they blocked the guys, and yeah, I 170 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: mean this is this is all going away soon. No, 171 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: you know what, if they can figure because punting plays 172 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: don't have a higher rate of injuries, so they can 173 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: mimic the injury rate on kicks to what it is 174 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: for punts, I think you can leave the play in 175 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: the game. I think that's what they're trying. And remember 176 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: a few years ago, this was discussed about how the 177 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: punt the punt play could be somethingwhat like the kickoff 178 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: play where guys line up and you have to you know, 179 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta run with them down, almost like 180 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: a punting play. Um, because you know what, and listen, 181 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: I I'm not for eliminating this because I just think 182 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: it just takes away from the game itself. It's part 183 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: of the fabric of the game. Not to mention the 184 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: fact that's how a lot of young guys and role 185 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: players make rosters, no question, yea so um. And by 186 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: the way, um, they you know, if they do take 187 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: it away, then the field goal kicker only has one 188 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: job to make field goals. And you know that's not 189 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: a bad thing. I mean kickoffs take a lot out 190 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: of your body as a kicker, but I'm my more. 191 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: Or let's keep it. Let's try to find a way 192 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: to improve the safety of it, and if it if 193 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: it works, great, If it doesn't, we've given it enough tries. 194 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: We've moved it from the thirty five to the forty 195 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: back to the thirty five, and you know all the 196 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: other stuff that goes into it. So we'll see what happens. 197 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: And this is a trial basis, and they're doing the 198 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: numbers on it and the analytics will come out and 199 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: then they'll say, hey, it was it. Let's safer this 200 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: year by doing this. So I'm trying to figure out 201 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: exactly where this setup zone is because they have the 202 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: NFL Operations it's called it's a their Twitter account at 203 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: NFL Football Ops has um a nice little raft. So 204 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: the setup zone looks like between the forty five and 205 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: the forty five, that's what it looks like. So it's 206 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: in that ten yard zone, yeah, because you can't be 207 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: you can't be within ten yards of the other one 208 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: with the kickoff. So forty five to the other forty 209 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: five that's what it looks like. It might be to 210 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: the forty and you think it when you have to 211 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: have eight players in that box. They're saying three can 212 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: be back two blockers in one return. What's it called? 213 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: What zone? What's it called restraining zone? I think they 214 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: have a cult like that. All right, interesting, Yes, let 215 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: me get the name for that properly. So yeah, set 216 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: up zone. That's what it's called. Set up zone. Okay. 217 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: Second rule, and this is the one that a lot 218 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: of people are worried about. And I think I understand 219 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: based on the warning why people are worried, UM, But 220 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be as big of 221 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: a deal as people think. And that's the use of 222 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: helmet rule that we already kind of talked about before. 223 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: If a player UM tries to forcibly contact an opponent, UM, 224 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: this is the quote. It is a foul player lowers 225 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: his head to initiate contact and make contact with his 226 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: helmet against an opponent. Now that happens every play. We 227 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: all know that that's football. Here are the additional amendments 228 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: or details of the rules that could put out yesterday, 229 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: how old this would be enforced. These are the end 230 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: you can be ejected for plays like that. These are 231 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: the ejection standards, player lowers his helmet to establish a 232 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: linear body posture prior to initiating and making contact with 233 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: the helmet. Now, folks, linear is basically means you're straight, 234 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: so you can't launch yourself like a spear with your 235 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: helmet here and just bam somebody. If you're running upright 236 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: and you bend your head a little bit, you're gonna 237 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: get tossed out of the game, okay, And you're not 238 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: gonna get a flag done on you either. It's the 239 00:10:53,559 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: guys that are launching. Yeah, it's at exactly what it's like, okay. 240 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: Player delivering the blow had to have an unabstract, unobstructed 241 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: path to his opponent. I like that because a lot 242 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: of times you don't. You know what I'm saying, this 243 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: is this is good. This is good because if you players, 244 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: you might two times accident exactly. So I'm gonna I'm 245 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: coming in to make a tackle John, and all of 246 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm trying to avoid you, and I get 247 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: linear and hit the guy that shouldn't be an injection correct, 248 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: and then contact was clearly avoidable. Player delivering the blow 249 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: had other options. Clearly was clearly avoidable, and this is 250 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: not gonna be reviewable on replay, so much like if 251 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: you folks that watched college football, and I get very 252 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: frustrated by the targeting role in the little college football 253 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: I watched during the year, because I think from crew 254 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: to crew it can be very subjective as to what 255 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: they call. I'm hoping these universal standards in the NFL 256 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: make it a little clearer and only on the most 257 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: flagrance of violations where they toss somebody out of the game. 258 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: That's my guys, trust me. On goal line plays offensive 259 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: line of the defensive limen and not gonna have pen 260 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: Please call them for targeting when their helmets hit at 261 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: the goal line. Okay, it's not gonna happen. And I 262 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: ordered that they're just not going to be in a 263 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: three point stand. Um, this is going to get there. 264 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: It's gonna get ugly. There's gonna be a game, there's 265 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: gonna be a foul, there's gonna be somebody tossed out 266 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: of the game. And we will be talking about this 267 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: during the season, I promise you, and the final rule 268 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: change and I'm not gonna get into it because I'm 269 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: not taking calls on this today because I don't we 270 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: don't do politics on Big Blue Kick Golf Live. Okay. Obviously, 271 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: of the new rules that got put out on the 272 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: national anthem um, basically, if you come out, you have 273 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: to stand. Otherwise you have a choice to stand stay 274 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: in the locker room for the national anthem um. And 275 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: that's the rule. And the only thing I'll say is this, folks, Okay, 276 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: I got a lot of people. Frankly, some people on 277 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: one side don't think they've gone far enough. The other 278 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: people on the other side think that they're doing too 279 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: much to stifle the players ability to express themselves. Guys, 280 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: they had to put some type of rule in. Okay. 281 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: Owners can now handle us however they want on an 282 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: individual team basis. So the Jetstate announce they'll handle it 283 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: one way. We'll see how the teams handle it. But 284 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: before everybody loses their mind about this, okay, the National 285 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: Basketball Association has a rule on the books and has 286 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: always had a rule in the books, and it was 287 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: enforced this year and there were no issues where players 288 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: had to standard attention for the national anthem. I didn't 289 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: hear one person make a peep about how it's a 290 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: draconian rule that are stifling people's right to free speech. 291 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: Not one thing the whole year, not one thing. It's 292 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: not a big deal. The NFL rule is less fierce 293 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: than the NBA rule. It's giving a player the option 294 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: not to go out there for the end. If they 295 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: want to make you have to do it, that's the rules, 296 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: and if you don't, it's gonna be consequence. Okay, so 297 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: before people lose their minds, just make sure you apply 298 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: your opinion equally just a little bit. Here's the deal. 299 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: As an NFL football player, you play and you get 300 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: paid to be on your employer. You you, you your company. 301 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: You work for this company with the NFL shield on it. 302 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: They make the rules. You abide by the rules, and 303 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: then if you don't, they'll be consequences. You have every 304 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: right that when you're done working, if you want to 305 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: go out in street clothes and protests and do whatever, 306 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want, but as long as 307 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: you're in a uniform, you have to follow these rules. 308 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: The NFL had to come up with it. Whether you 309 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: think it was strong enough or not, that's up to you. 310 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: The bottom line is that you you're gonna follow the rules, 311 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: just like you follow the new rules that we talked 312 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: about here in a second ago about targeting all the 313 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: other stuff. You must follow those rules. You work for 314 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: the NFL, the teams. That's it. It's very easy. It's 315 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: very easy to me. That's it I have no problems 316 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: with because I would be out there. I I and 317 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: as you well know, it's the NFL's a lightning rod. 318 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: Whatever they end up doing, we'll get more attention to 319 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: everybody else just the way it goes. And again, folks, 320 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm not doing questions of politics here, but that was 321 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: a rule change I wanted at least. I am a 322 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: rule follower, always have been. So this has no effect 323 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: on what I would would or wouldn't do. But that's 324 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: this that the NFL had to do it, okay, And 325 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: it's never It's not a perfect sign again, not gonna 326 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: be a perfect rule for anybody. It in no way 327 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: is a commentary on the cause that the people that 328 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: are doing it um are saying they're represented, they support 329 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: that has that's material to what the rule is. Correct. 330 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: The NFL and ownership, as we talked about last year, 331 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: has gonna has has really done a done their best 332 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: to meet with players and try to be in assistance 333 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: to them to promote whatever social cause or agenda they 334 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: want to have the field and they'll continue. But they're 335 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: giving the player of the choice here, correct, because we're 336 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: gonna know if John Schmilk isn't on the field. Yes, 337 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: they just won't be the visual of the player, but 338 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: it and somebody's gonna write about it and somebody's gonna 339 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: tweet about it. Correct, So you wonder if the problem 340 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: is really going to be solved anyway, Let's get to 341 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: the calls at two five mat Before we do, I 342 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: just want to give one take real quick. I know 343 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm killing you when I'm sorry. I was at an 344 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: O T A S today, just a couple of notes 345 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: because the media wasn't there. So a couple of things 346 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: I saw while I was out there. Lendon Collins uh 347 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: is it walked through with the team, not doing anything 348 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: that could have any contact with the arm. But there 349 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: was a brace on it. I think earlier last week 350 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: I saw. But it looks like the braces off, so 351 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: he's making progress. I would still be surprised if I 352 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: saw him do anything until training camp in August and 353 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: they make sure that bone is completely healed. Um Offense 354 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: came out did a really good job in goal line UM, 355 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: a couple of touchdown passes. Defense had a lot of 356 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: struggles later on in the red zone drills. Go line 357 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: is basically five yards and into the end zone. Red 358 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: zone is anything twenty yards. And in UM, I thought 359 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: the defense did a really good job. Had a couple 360 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: had an interception, a couple of tackles for losses. In 361 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: sacks UM they did uh first time in O T 362 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: A S they did two minute practice. They did three 363 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: full sessions of two minutes with a lot of plays, 364 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: probably twenty five plays of of two minutes. And I 365 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: think that I think the two minute is the number. 366 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: That it's two minutes, you know what I mean. But 367 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: but I do believe, Yeah, there's gonna be a lot 368 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: of two minutes in this offense. And they basically give 369 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: scenarios like you have a minute, thirty seconds, you have 370 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: one time out, we need a field goal to win 371 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: the game. I'm also saying, in my opinion, I think 372 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a hurry up offense when the game 373 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: starts correct and they're gonna run up tempo um. The defense, 374 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: I thought in a two minute did a really good job. 375 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: I thought they got a lot of pressure on the quarterback. 376 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: Um Romeo kar was all over the place during practice. 377 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: I thought he had a really nice practice. Be very 378 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: interesting to see how he plays in this new defense. 379 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: And he's one of those I think he'll be do 380 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: be very do very well. Yeah, and he's one of 381 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: those guys that's in that UM hybrid room where he's 382 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: in the linebacker room mind for us a second down 383 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: in the past rushing group with Cream Martin and Lorenzo 384 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: card On, Olivia Vernon and those guests. So I agree. 385 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: I thought he thought he had a nice little practice, UM, 386 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: and which you mentioned that group right there, that's a 387 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: nice group to be in. He did some good leadership, 388 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: good veteran stuff there. You know. That's that's that's a 389 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: nice place to be Um. A J. Francis, fourth year 390 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, I thought made some nice place in that 391 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: two minute well drill as well of Olivia Vernon had 392 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: some moments in the backfield. Uh, Kerry Winn had a 393 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: couple of tackles would be tackles for a loss on 394 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: running plays. It again, there's no contact, folks. I'll take 395 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: this wherever you want, um, and obviously doesn't mean a 396 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: whole lot and I thought Jordan Williams made a couple 397 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: of nice plays during the what have you? John, Um 398 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: and me ask you this question because I haven't been 399 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: out there any of them. As far as the offensive 400 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: line rotation, are they mixing up a lot of the 401 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: what what did you? A lot of rotation? Do you 402 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: see any consistency with one or the other? Flowers and 403 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: Solder have been the tackles with the first team, and 404 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: Brett Jones. I'm sure Halapo has been in there with 405 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: the first team. It senter Ha. They've rotated a little 406 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: bit there as well, so I think there's a competition there. 407 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: I've seen will horn And is a left guard um 408 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: with Omammy and right guard with the first team. I've 409 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: seen Wilharnon is a right guard a little bit. I've 410 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: seen a mom May at left guard a little bit. 411 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: They've rotated back and forth a bit depending on who's 412 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: in there, Um And that's all about learning different positions 413 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: and learning absolutely system. There's been a lot of rotation there. Now. 414 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: One thing that I did notice, and of course John 415 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: and and Dan, you guys always do a great job 416 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: on the Big Blue uh Kickoff or the Giants website 417 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: is talking a little bit about how um a little 418 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: bit different between McAdoo and Shermer as far as corrections go. 419 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that he makes a lot 420 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: of corrections on the field. Pat Shermer opposed to McAdoo 421 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: Houston wait until they got into the classroom to do that. 422 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of on the field because it's attention, 423 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 1: it's right away, it's in your head, you change it 424 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: and then you move on. You almost once you get 425 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: in the meeting room, you might have forgotten the details absolutely. 426 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: And to tell you this, meeting rooms, guys their their 427 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: heads wonder, they're like, oh what am I getta out 428 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: of here? They are, Yeah, So when you're in the 429 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: in the moment, I think that kind of resonates a 430 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: little bit more for you. Yeah, I agree. Um. I 431 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: thought Davis Webb probably wasn't as sharp as he was 432 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: earlier in the week. Um. He threw an interception and 433 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: as soon as he was funny he let go of 434 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: the ball and as soon as he thought he was 435 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: oh no, and then it was a pick decision, yeah, 436 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: And he knew it as soon as he made the 437 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: throw that was yeah. And and he overthrew a couple 438 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: of passes, but he won really nice throw And the 439 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: one thing about Webb, you know he's a cannon, but 440 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: can he put the touch on the ball when he 441 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: needs to? In the goal line drills, he threw a 442 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: perfect um back corner fade to Roger Lewis. Wasn't really 443 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: a corner of traditional corner fair Louis was kind of 444 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: going along the back line of the internet, but he 445 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: had to lob it over a linebacker or and he 446 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: threw it right in his hands, right in the corner 447 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: of the ends over the touchdown. So I thought that 448 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: was a really nice throw by. But what is your 449 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: what is your your taking what you've seen about h 450 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: Cody Latimer. I thought he's been great. Um. I wrote 451 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: about this on Tuesday during the second old team, and I 452 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: I thought he was good again today. For a guy 453 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: that that that is that size at six two and 454 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: two twenty give or take. Usually worry about those guys 455 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: getting separation and having the quickness at the top of 456 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: the route to separate. He's gotten separation. And remember he's 457 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: with the first team now, so he's doing that against 458 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: Elie Apple, He's doing that against the doors, and he 459 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: hasn't dropped the damn thing. He hasn't dropped a damn thing. 460 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: Feaks And the first day of O t A s 461 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: uh poor. I think it was Grand Hally got put 462 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: on him and one on ones he ran a slang 463 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 1: go hall he fell down. So he's run some nice 464 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: routes too. So I think Cody Lattimer has been good paper, 465 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: really really pleasant surprise. I always worried about a guy 466 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: like that who was a second round pick that the 467 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: Broncos traded up for. So you figured that someone that 468 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: they would want to get on the field, right, the 469 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: fact that he couldn't really get on the field a 470 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: whole lot in Denver made me worry, what's wrong with 471 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: this guy? I've been really impressed since he got I'll 472 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: tell you what I do like about the situation with 473 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: him is that Tyctober came from Denver. His receiver coach 474 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: at Denver is here and now that that listen. That 475 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: always plays a big role in my mind when you 476 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: have the same coach for well, now it's gonna be 477 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: five years in a row for him. Yeah, and Tycus 478 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: said great things about him too, So you wonder where 479 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: the roadblock was in Denver? If it wasn't the position 480 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: coach at the coordinator a lot like him? Did the 481 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: head coach not like him? Was it just the fact 482 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: that the Marius Thomas and Emmanuel Sandards are so good 483 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: he couldn't get out there. He wasn't. That's what I'm saying. 484 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: So that's okay, Hey, just him him like everyone else, 485 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: clean slate. Not to say that he was a problem 486 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: at all in anywhere. It's just everything is the start over, 487 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: reset button for a lot of these guys and come 488 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: in and compete. That's what Dave got Himan told you. 489 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: He wants guys that want to play football to come 490 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: in and compete. That's what That's what that's gonna be. Latimer, 491 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna be his role. I'm gonna play. Let's go 492 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: to Ian and Richmond, Virginia. He's up first. One. Oh 493 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: nothing much, thank you, thank you, first time caller. I 494 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: love the show. You all are just great. Thank you. 495 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, And just one thing. I had 496 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: the idea, and it is about the anthem, but it's 497 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: not political at all. Is the idea of a moment 498 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: of silence for human rights because we all know that 499 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: it is something that touches people and I believe that 500 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: with this it would really give the players uh recognition 501 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: of really putting their best foot forward and you know, 502 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: really making a difference because on the big stage they 503 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: really get to show that, you know, we all really 504 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: are coming together over this one idea. And it could 505 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: be before or after the anthem, and it really, I 506 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: feel would just show that there is caring about that 507 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: there is an issue. Hey, let me ask you a question. 508 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: Do you think that the guys that now with the 509 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: new rule that stay in the locker room or would 510 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: have kneeled if there wasn't a new rule put in. 511 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: Do you think these guys wouldn't now be on the 512 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: field or not or stand up if they did have 513 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: this moment of silence after the national anthem. I do 514 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: believe they would assist because the reason why they're doing 515 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: it is because they feel like they don't have a 516 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: platform to express it. So I believe that giving them 517 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: the opportunity to actually express that, even through silence, gives 518 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: them their voice, you would hope. So maybe some of 519 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: them might not think that that's enough, you know what 520 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean? They really want they want they want people, 521 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: they want the media, They want people to see that 522 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: he's kneeling, you know, and if it's a moment of silence, 523 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: everybody's involved in it rather than the two or three 524 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: that kneel every week, or what good point? Good point? 525 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: Do anything else seeing UH? Other than that, I just 526 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: believe that the UH, the new UH helmet with the 527 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: tackling rule is just a reinforcement of not using your 528 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: helmet as a weapon and not trying to hurt people 529 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: because if you tackle correctly, you shouldn't have your head down. 530 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: And I've seen videos of little kids getting paralyzed by it, 531 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: and it's just sad to see because it's it's avoidable 532 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: to a point that we need to teach it all 533 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: the way through and that if kids are seeing it 534 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: on the big stage, you know they're gonna do it 535 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: at home. See see what you hit. It's a very 536 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: basic rule of football, and more people need to follow. 537 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: Thank you in it's where they call it heads up. 538 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: Thank you Football program from the NFL puts it out 539 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: heads Up. Its heads up to see what your head 540 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: is taught at the lowest level and moves up through 541 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: and and really, when you think about the Heads Up 542 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: program and what the NFL has done as far as um, 543 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, just awareness. It's probably going on about I'm 544 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: gonna say eight or nine years now. They've been doing this, 545 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: so you think of kids eight or nine years ago. 546 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: We're eight or nine years old. They're now getting to 547 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: the point where they're in high school and college. They've 548 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: been taught the right way. So that's the they're hoping 549 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: that over time this will help the game be safer. 550 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: It's all about player safety. Well, listen, that's what that 551 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: rule is for. I mean folks that they're trying to 552 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: make this game as safe as possible without taking away 553 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: the core of what makes it unique and special. And 554 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: it's a really fine line it is, because if you 555 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: take away too much the game, it just doesn't it's 556 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: not a fun game anymore. But they're trying and then 557 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: they'll do their best to make the game as safer 558 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: players as possible. Let's go to Marco in Iowa, Man 559 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 1: online three. Marco, what's going on? Pal? Gentlemen? How are 560 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: you just just calling to see? Uh? You know, granted 561 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: the fifty three is going to change until September tomes, 562 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: but I've just been thinking, you know, just today that 563 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: Barkery was drafted. Uh not necessarily taking a hand off, 564 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, as a home run, but more taking it 565 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: as a screen pass. Uh, both of you, John and Jeff, 566 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: What what different groupings of personnel on the offense would 567 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: you like to see? Also independent of Sermers schemes. You know, 568 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: what what are you thinking about? How how you'd like 569 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: to be lined up there? For example, I really want 570 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: to see Ellison out there more of the season. Well 571 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: all start. I think that the way that the game 572 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: has has evolved with these tight end positions. I mean, 573 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: obviously we know Evan Ingram can play, and he can 574 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: run and he can catch, you know, maybe have another receiver. 575 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: I'd like to see another tight end and in the 576 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: line in in those groupings Um and then hey, got 577 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: the other receivers out there, that's fine, and utilize the 578 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: back they're running back to. But maybe one more, one 579 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: more tight end in the in the situation, like you said, 580 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: I like that idea. Yeah, yeah, I think twelve personnel 581 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: with with Ingram, Um and Ellison. Remember, and that twelve personnel, 582 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: you can have Ellison in the backfield too because block 583 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: exactly Um, and then I think you have Latimer, O'Dell 584 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: and Sheppard with Barkley in the back back field, and frankly, 585 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see more empty sets than we've 586 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: seen a long time with the Giants this year. Maybe 587 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: you'll run um that same type of twelve personnel, but 588 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: you'll have Ellison on the line as a six blocker 589 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 1: and you'll motion Barkley out of the backfield, and then 590 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: you'll send Barkley, Sheppard, Ingram and O'Dell and Latimer that 591 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: those four out route. So yeah, so I think those 592 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: are some of the different things you might see Marko 593 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: to take advantage of some of the unique personnel on 594 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: the Giants offense. Yeah, because I agree with Paul where 595 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: he said, you know, Ellison was just not used at 596 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: all last year, and uh, you know, with Flowers switching 597 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: over to the right, Uh, even though he's the most 598 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: qualified right now on the squad to handle that position, 599 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: I really think he's gonna we're gonna need Ellison to 600 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: do some shipping and stuff over there. Yeah, agreed. Okay, Well, 601 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: thanks you guys. At the highlight of my day. Thanks Marco. 602 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: Appreciating Marco got to see a lot of sa Kwon 603 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: Barkley is living out Iowa. Last year, he had his 604 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: biggest game of the air, but the hurdle against Iowa. Yep, 605 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: he's gonna be exciting to watch. I mean, people that 606 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: the buzz around you know, I'm playing in the Giants 607 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: golf tournament a few weeks ago. I'm Shawn o'harris tournament. Yesterday, 608 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: everybody's asking about Sequon Barkley. Hey, what do you think that? 609 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: It's just it's the bus it really is. And by 610 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: the way, today was the first time and maybe it happened. 611 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention that a pass was thrown his 612 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: way during o t a s that hit the ground 613 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: and it wasn't his. He's been really consistent as a receiver. Well, 614 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: I think that that's one of the characteristics they like 615 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: about him, is not only can we know he can run, 616 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: but he can he can catch. I want to see 617 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: how he blocks. I think it'll I think he'll be 618 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: fine with it. But you know, he is still a 619 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: rookie and so we gotta you know, and he's not Superman, 620 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: at least not yet. But we'll have to see that 621 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: how that goes. Let's go to Jason and Denmark. Matt, 622 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: I want to wrap up his phone bill here calling 623 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: from overseas. Jason, what's up? Hey, what's going on? Jason? 624 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: Please be here with me when I when I say this, 625 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: because I hear all about this last week. Hooray, hooray 626 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: to Morton Anderson. Yeah. I made a deal with me 627 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: that if I say that every show, she will leave 628 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: me want to listen to the show. I think. I 629 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: think that's a fair trade. Yeah, that's a fair trade. 630 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: She's made her own yellow jack all the time. Good. 631 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: He was a hack of her. My question today was 632 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: all the Yeah he was, he was. Uh. My question 633 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: today was with all the rule changes, Uh, do you 634 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: see its hindering rookie on the feet away? So they 635 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: have some experience with in the game and not making 636 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: mistakes because you know, they have a lot and they 637 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: played already and sometimes rookie do make rookie mistakes and 638 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: so on. So little things like um, the head going down, 639 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, for the tacklings on, how do you think 640 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: they would plan for that as far as the rookies go. Yeah, 641 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: this coach kind of mimics what they dealt with in college. 642 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: So I don't think that's gonna be a real big 643 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: change for them necessarily. Again, we'll see if it gets 644 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: officiated differently in the NFL than it did in college 645 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: last year, we don't know until we see it again. 646 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: A lot of this is gonna be discretion on. There's 647 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: no question the officials are going to do it. But 648 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be that big of 649 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: a transition. I don't think it will be because of 650 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: what we just said. I think they have the targeting 651 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: rule in college football and it is enforced and it's 652 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's on instant replay, you can go, they 653 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: can challenge it, and I think that if if anything, 654 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: it's it's good for these guys that have had that 655 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: in college coming into the pros. Yeah, we'll see. It's 656 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be more of an adjustment for the 657 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: veterans than it is that young guys. Okay, okay, I 658 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: know the last question. Uh I noticed Collins said, say 659 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: said a couple of things you know once to Apple 660 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: and uh, they know that's probably his stile of leadership. 661 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't like that too too much. And uh, you 662 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: all showed that he has addressed that a little bit. 663 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: How do you think the relationship is now that Eric 664 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: Clowns is there? How is their relationship have you seen 665 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: any or actually, it's funny. Fields actually had to break 666 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: up a fist fight between those two guys in the cafeterias. 667 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. No, it's it's it's been. It's been 668 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: absolutely fine. Look, these guys are teammates. He's in the building. 669 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna work to them or not even on the 670 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: same side of the ball. You know, they're probably not 671 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: gonna be How often it's Colins and Flowers maybe within 672 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: ten yards of each other during practice, So um, I 673 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: want to worry about that, Jason, and and thanks a 674 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: lot for the call. Uh, it's fine, they're getting along. Look, 675 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: the team's better if Eric Flowers is here him playing 676 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: good football. He's the most talented UH player, has the 677 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: potential to play right tackle. And again, folks, he doesn't 678 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: have to turn into you know, whatever you guys think 679 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: is worth the eleventh overall picking the draft. He doesn't 680 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: have to be that or the ninth whatever he was. 681 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be that guy. He just has 682 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: to be good enough to be a solid starter. And look, 683 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: he wasn't there yet last year. He took a small 684 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: step from the year prior. He certainly played better last 685 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: year than he did in a second year. He went 686 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: to that big streak where you didn't give up a 687 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: sack force seven eight games something like that. It was 688 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: one of the highest rated tackles up to that point 689 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: in the season. I think for that one stretch of 690 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: because he he did Okay, he was better. But does 691 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: he have to improve more. Absolutely, And we'll see if 692 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: he can do it this year. We'll see, we'll see. 693 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the right to change helps his career. He 694 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: was coach Marvin Man. I was gonna go to him next. 695 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: All right, if he calls back, you can put coach 696 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: Marvin on for us. Let's go to Julian Dan in Florida. Julian, 697 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: what up, Hey guys, Hey guys, how are you doing? Um? 698 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: So he said that Barkley dropped the pass to day 699 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: due to a bad pass. So we threw it. Well, 700 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't say he dropped the pass. I 701 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: said it was an incomplete pass in his direction. I 702 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: believe it was. I think it was Eli throwing that one. 703 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: But it was one of those deals where was a 704 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: screen and guys were flying into space and he was 705 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: and what his backfoot trying to float it over a 706 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: couple of defensive linemens, So I wouldn't put too much 707 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: stock into that, Juliet. Okay, Okay, No, I'm just I 708 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: was just curious. Okay. Um, I'm gonna actually two quick 709 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: things and I'll take it off. Uh. So this is 710 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: your third year covering um Apple guys, So what do 711 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: you you see this talent in him? Do you? I mean, 712 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: when you're when you guys are watching in practice, do 713 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: you see that top tier talent that they say, don't 714 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: give up on talent like Edelman says, and you and 715 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: you say to yourself, just watching him for now almost 716 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: it's going to be three years. He's right, Like, this 717 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: guy has a talent, he has what it takes to 718 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: be out there and be a starter. Or is it 719 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: just one of those things where you haven't seen what 720 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: you've seen in his college tape and you know, do 721 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: you kind of wonder about it? Or um? Nom? Yes? 722 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: Top tier? I mean, do I see Dion Sanders out there? 723 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: But that's okay, Um, I see a guy that certainly 724 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: has the height, weight, speed, physicality to be a very 725 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: good starting cornerback in this league. And if you can 726 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: think to get better, maybe he'll be better than that 727 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: be a Pro Bowl caliber player. So yeah, I think 728 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: the physical tools are there if he can put it 729 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: all together. And by putting it all together, and I 730 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: agree with John putting it all together is the mental 731 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: parts of his game. For for Eli Apple, it's all 732 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: between the years. In my opinion, it's it's the one. 733 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: It's the will and technique too, and there's you can 734 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: always get better in your technique no matter what position 735 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: he's with the balls in the air. He's got to 736 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: get his head around a little bit and you know, 737 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 1: and that can come. But I think that for him, 738 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: he has to fight through what took him really out 739 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: of the game last year and those demons, whatever they were, 740 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: He's got to get rid of those. But I will 741 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: tell you this, it should be pretty easy for him 742 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: in a sense that you know, this is a new 743 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: coaching chefs uh staff and that coach Sherman has said 744 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: to him, listen, I'm not going to judge you on 745 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: what you did in the past. I'm going to judge 746 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: you on what you do now. So here's you know, 747 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: so let's do it. And Julian. The tough thing, I 748 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: think is for a lot of these guys that come man, 749 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: a guy like Eli Apple. You know, wherever he's played before, 750 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: he's probably always been the best player, whether it's high 751 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: school or or whatever. Yeah, and you know exactly. I mean, 752 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: how many times do you think Eli Apple has been, 753 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: you know, in a meeting room with this team, with 754 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: film being shown to the whole team, had his faults 755 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: shown to everybody, and he probably felt embarrassed and he 756 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: didn't handle it well. It's probably the first time he 757 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: dealt with it. I'm not giving any excuse. As a 758 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: professional anthem, you need to be able to take criticism 759 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: from your coaches are trying into better play. But I 760 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: think if he can figure that part of this out 761 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: and learn how to you know, stay with it and 762 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: deal with mistakes and move on, he'll be great. But 763 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: like like I said on the show, I think it 764 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: was Tuesday, Julian, We're not gonna know where he is 765 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: mentally until he has a bad game and we see 766 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: how he bounces back for it. It's easy to have 767 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: a great mentality in the spring when things start going bad, 768 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,959 Speaker 1: has to deal with the bad or in practice where 769 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: his coaches start to say publicly, hey listen, this and 770 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: this right, but that that's something. We don't know what's happening. 771 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: We'll know if he has a bad game or not. Right. 772 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: What's your second point? Uh? Second question would be, um, 773 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: kind you know, what was your opinion on Ben McAdoo. Uh, 774 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean, like now that he's gone. I mean I 775 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't want to just sit here and bash him 776 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: if that was the case. But did you I feel like, 777 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: besides the injuries that a lot of everything last year 778 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: had to do with coaching and personally, did you like 779 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: coach McAdoo as a coach? And now that you see 780 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: Pat Shermer coming in, do you see like kind of 781 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: differences and say to yourself, well, you know what, that's 782 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: kind of what coach McAdoo was missing, and you know 783 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: things like that. In a sense, I'm asking, did you 784 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: guys like coach mcadoos a football coach all around? Um? Well, 785 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: first of all, Julian, and thanks a lot for the call. 786 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Despite I think what the public perception 787 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: and persona might have been from time to time, he 788 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: really was a good guy. Um you get you know 789 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: you talked to him on the side, I'll ask you 790 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: that his family UM very nice, down to earth, blue 791 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: collar guy. You know, not pretentious at all, um, But look, 792 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: I think things went off the rail last year. I mean, 793 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: if things went bad, everyone was to blame all the 794 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: way down from the top of the ladder all the 795 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: way down to the bottom of the ladder. And it's snowball. 796 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: They couldn't you know. Sometimes the train might get off 797 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: the tracks for a second, but then it readjusted gets 798 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: back on the tracks. The train went off the tracks 799 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: and it just went further into the ditch, and the 800 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: switch plates kept going exactly so. And look it happens 801 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: that that that's the way the league goes. Um. I 802 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: will say this, um, and I've said this before too. 803 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: I the one thing I did not like about Ben 804 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: mcadew's offense. I didn't think they gave Eli the chance 805 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: to throw the ball down field enough, which I always 806 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: think his best ball to me has always been his 807 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: deep ball over the middle, and I don't think we 808 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: had a chance to see that as much now. I 809 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: think Ben McAdoo was also hamstrung by the fact that 810 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: his offensive line couldn't protect long enough to get the 811 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: ball down the field. So I think he could have 812 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: handled things better last year. Again, like you said, We're 813 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: not gonna sit here and and and bash the guy 814 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: with some unfortunate circumstances. He did the best he could. Obviously, 815 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: look at the record, look what happened and wasn't good enough. 816 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: That's what the change got made. But my guess is 817 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: next year he'll be back in the league in some way, 818 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: shape or form as a quarterback coach, maybe offensive coordinator. 819 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: I probably guess quarterback coach first, and we'll see how 820 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: his career picks up. But he's a good football guy 821 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: and a good man. But you know, sometimes your first 822 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: go around, they say coach, he doesn't work out. Jeff Well, 823 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean, look at Pat Schrmer. He had a first 824 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: go around too and got fired. So now he's been 825 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: rehired and this is you know, so we'll see what 826 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: happens there. I need to be a quarterbacks coach first. 827 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: To remember, he went to the Eagles and was the 828 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. This, the whole Macado thing reminds me of 829 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: when I was going way back back when I came 830 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: to the to the Cardinals when Buddy Ryan had been 831 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: hired out there, as I think he was an OC 832 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: with Philly after the browncing. I'm sorry about that go ahead, 833 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: Shermer was yes, yeah, and he actually spent a lot 834 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: of time there. He did. Yes, So they hired Buddy Ryan. 835 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: They fired Buddy Ryan, okay, and then then they replaced 836 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: him with Vince Todman, who was this great He was 837 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: a offensive court defensive coordinator for the Indianapois. It's called 838 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: it's great coordinator, horrible head coach, Ben McAdoo. It's kind 839 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: of the same situation. Great offensive coordinator, not a good 840 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: head coach. Because what would you say, Jeff, when you're 841 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 1: a head coach, what percentage of being a head coach 842 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: is x and os um? At that point, I would 843 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: say maybe, depending on I get a little bit higher 844 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: than that. Fine, that's your job. That's handling people, handling 845 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: situations right there. It's different. But but there's the thing. 846 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: There are certain people, whether it's a head coach and 847 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: a professional football or a guy and that works for IBM. 848 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. Some people cannot handle dealing with people. 849 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: They're not people people, you know what I mean. And 850 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: now you can learn that skill and get better at it. 851 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: But when you're throwing into deep end, you think of swim. 852 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: And one thing about coach McAdoo had never been a 853 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 1: head coach on any level of football before, So that's 854 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: a big that's a big adjustment. I mean, yeah, you're 855 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL, you know kind of how it works, 856 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: but you really don't until you're baptized, baptism by fire. 857 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: And he really got under fire, he got fired. But 858 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: I think the fact is that I just think that's 859 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: where it was a mistake for him. He just wasn't 860 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: ready to be a head coach, not to say he 861 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: won't be another head coach. And this Pat Schrumer's and 862 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: head coach. Again, clearly he has some ability and they 863 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: went eleven and five his first year. That doesn't happen 864 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: by accident, folks, it doesn't. And listen, this and this 865 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: team it just got it was the train ran off 866 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: the tracks last year and there nobody could get it 867 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: back on. Oh my god. And by the way, the 868 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: fault still to me ultimately lands with the players because 869 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: the problems that arose for for coach McAdoo came from 870 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: players having issues. You know, whether it was guys getting suspended, 871 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: what it be as a behavior or whatever the case 872 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: might be. You know, guys on the field didn't make 873 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: the plays, and I think it made it reflected very 874 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: poorly on the coaches when a lot of it wasn't 875 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: their fault in terms of beyond the field. So the 876 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: bottom line with this is the fact that be and 877 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: I can tell you this because I've done it. Not 878 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say, but I've been around it that 879 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: when players quit on a coach, that's what happens. They 880 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 1: just don't believe in the coach anymore. So things start 881 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: to they start to just it doesn't they don't care. 882 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: And and you look at what happened last year. This 883 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: is a prime example of what happened. These players do 884 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: not want to play for coach McAdoo anymore, and they 885 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: just they just did it. And that's what happened, walking 886 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: out of meetings and and this thing. You know, it's crazy. 887 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: And again it's not every player, I want to be 888 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: very specific about. No, no, no, no, not every player. 889 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: It could just be five of the players if that, 890 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it looks like the whole 891 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: everybody's quit, and that's not the case. And that's what 892 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: that really probably was. Probably was the percentage out of 893 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: the fifty three guys, maybe two and a half three 894 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: percent of it five one three. Ready for the next call. 895 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: Let's go, coach Marvin, he's a next, Say coach, how 896 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: you doing, John Jeff, Hey, guy, coach, how are you? 897 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm doing good. I don't want to use 898 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 1: this for this platform. It's not talking about the national anthem, 899 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: but being a black man in a maud. Yeah. Um, 900 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: the the anthem was kind of like taking hostage. It 901 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: really wasn't about the anthem. And I've served in the 902 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: military and I'm in the government law enforcement now. It 903 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: never was about uh yeah, yeah, coach, Coach, coach, I agree. 904 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: The protest itself wasn't about the national anthem, but the 905 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: problem is that it took place during the anthem, which 906 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: is why I think where all the confusion kind of 907 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: came and why so many people got upset about it. 908 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yes, man, I agree with you. 909 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: Was um first birthday, believe the military person? Yeah yeah, coach, 910 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: sorry your coach, Yeah, man, we gotta let him go. 911 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: If he calls back, he's on a better connection. We 912 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: could try him again. But I imagine that's why he 913 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: was dropping before as well, because his cell phone kept 914 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: coming out. So coach, we hear you. Um, you know 915 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 1: you're a law enforcement like you said, so you have 916 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: a pretty unique perspective on the matter. Um, but we 917 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: appreciate the call. Thank you pay bill, Remember didn't pay 918 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: the bills. I got a bad feel like about this. 919 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: I didn't losing his mind. Mr Illness, he wasn't right 920 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: enough jokes. I am happy shortly in Portland, Maine is 921 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: up next? Hey, Jeff, Hey John, you guys. You guys 922 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: got a cushi. You got Friday off, you got Monday off. Hey, 923 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: why don't we have a conference call weekend and chop 924 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: it up over the weekend. How's that? How about we 925 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: four day weekend and not think about you for two seconds. 926 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: I think that's the best weekend at all. How about that? Good? Hey? Um, 927 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, um, I mean, I don't 928 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: want to get into the the anthem thing, but I 929 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 1: just think what this is my suggestion, go out there, 930 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: stand but have a photograph of all the young black 931 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: men who have been killed unjustly by the police, and 932 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: just have a photo of them so people can know 933 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: what they're they're standing up against. And uh, I think 934 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: that would be fair. Put your hand on your heart, 935 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: put the photograph up and uh, then people know what 936 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: they're doing. So that's my suggestion. That's actually one of 937 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: the more sensible things I've ever heard you say. To 938 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: be honest with you, at least it's identifiable. Ryes right, 939 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: and hey, I I my sources tell me the giants 940 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: are going to bring in a veteran tackle uh in 941 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 1: free agency. So there's only one guy out there. So 942 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: Charlie does does your source, Charlie, does your source live 943 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,240 Speaker 1: in the woods outside your cabin? Or is your source 944 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: actually beaty? Hey? That would be the source to hear 945 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: it from. That would be Hey, I did get to 946 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 1: check out the O t A today, So who is 947 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: the uh start? I mean, how would the offensive line look? 948 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: Did you look any better? Is Tyler Howell doing any better? 949 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: Is his footwork pretty good? Check that out? I must 950 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: admit I have not watched Tyler Howell specifically Charlie. Um, 951 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: obviously you know the funny thing about these practices. And 952 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: while I get access the film of games, I did 953 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: not get access to film of practice, So I can't 954 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: go back and like watch individual guys and see how 955 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: they did. So I'm I'm kind of seeing who flashes 956 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: and then I figure out who got beat when those 957 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: flashes happen, so I haven't noticed how necessarily I will 958 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: say this, Um, the three guys that I thought jumped 959 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,439 Speaker 1: out to me on the defensive line, I thought, Um, 960 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 1: Romeo Quard did real well. I thought Kerry winded real well, 961 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: and I thought Olivia running made some nice place too. 962 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: So I think today, if I had to classify it, 963 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: I think it would be Um. After a very positive 964 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: goal line drove for the offense, where I think they 965 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: scored on eight of ten possessions on eight goal line 966 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: plays outside the five, and the oppos did really well. 967 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,439 Speaker 1: I thought that defends at a much better job. Later 968 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: on a practice, I hope, hey, hey, we're all three 969 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: of those guys on the flowers side by. In fact, 970 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: it was a job to block all three at the 971 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: same time. Charlie, Hey, I just wanted to say, yesterday, 972 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: Paul Paul, I know Faull Atlants had the referee on 973 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: yes and the you know when they talked about this 974 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: nightmare that's coming up. But you know what he also said, Jeff, 975 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 1: this might scare you a little bit, but he said, 976 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: somedays they're not team. Do I have punters they're not 977 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 1: gonna even have any punting. You know. That's that's coming 978 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: down the down the road. The question is, I think 979 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: it's horrible idea. Are punting plays inherently more dangerous than 980 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 1: non punting plays. I don't know what the numbers are 981 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: on that. I haven't read any data that tells me 982 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: guys are more likely to get hurt on a punt 983 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: than on a typical third down. I have not seen 984 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 1: that data. It's just they want to eliminate the long 985 00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 1: running contact, and so it does happen on punts. Guys 986 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 1: reverse fields, and that's when guys get laid out. You 987 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 1: have those blind sidelocks, which you're already illegal by the 988 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: way they are, but they happened. So the st tyble 989 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: blocks happen on interception returns and stuff like that. You're right, 990 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: you're right. But I just hope they don't eliminate any 991 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: of this stuff because, like John said earlier, it's a 992 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: fabric of the game, and you certainly don't you wanna, 993 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 1: you wanna, you want to do everything you could humanly 994 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 1: possible to help help the safety of the game without 995 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: eliminating those things that we talked about. And at the end, 996 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 1: if it's if it's gone so bad, then you have 997 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: to take it away. But I just hope it never 998 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 1: gets to that. Yeah, hey, if it happens, you'll really 999 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: be a dinosaur. Then guys have to have a great weekend. 1000 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: Speaking of dinosaur, why don't you go into woods and 1001 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: find some dinosaur bones and start, you know, digging those 1002 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: things up. Thank you, Charlie. I'm sure there's some up 1003 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: there in Maine somewhere. And by the way, I think 1004 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: the lobster maybe going down this weekend for some Yeah, 1005 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: kids should be home, right, it's still frozen. Haven't eat 1006 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: it yet? No, I still got it? Still good? Good 1007 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: I was, I didn't think. Okay, that's exciting. I want 1008 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: to text. I know, I want to tweak. If you 1009 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: eat the lobster, ye want to go off. By the way, 1010 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: we got about I think we got about seven pounds 1011 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: of it out of the ten one pound lobsters. Wow, 1012 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. By the way, Jeff is not the 1013 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 1: one that did the hard work of getting can eat 1014 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: those lobsters. He achieved trained professionals do it for him. 1015 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Charlie. Alright, final call the show. Um, let's 1016 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 1: go to him. Unfortunately, at my my computer locked up here, 1017 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 1: mat just put him up. Call here your next day. 1018 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: What's going on, Pal, what's up? Dave's gentlemen, just real quick. 1019 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: You know it's we're kind of in the season UM 1020 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: where it's a little bit harder to pick things to 1021 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: talk about with these um glorified jogs through practices. UM. 1022 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: And you guys may have touched on this on an 1023 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: earlier show since he's been out of action. UM. I 1024 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: know it's pure speculations, and sometimes you guys don't like 1025 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: to comment on that, but do you get a feeling that, um, 1026 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:11,800 Speaker 1: maybe Snacks is absent, might be a tad bit contract related, 1027 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 1: like maybe he thinks he's outperformed UM his contract, even 1028 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: though maybe he doesn't get the national recognition. UM, he's 1029 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: hands down the you know, the best run defender. And 1030 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: you think maybe that's why you know he has a report, 1031 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: not that I'm sweating it or you know, busting him 1032 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: over it or anything like that. Uh, it just seems 1033 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: out of his personality to miss both UM and I 1034 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 1: know it's just total speculation, it is I Coach Charmer said, 1035 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: he knows I have no idea why he's not here. 1036 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 1: Coach Charmer said, he knows why he's not here. He 1037 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: understands it. It was similar language to what he used 1038 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 1: when you talk about our flowers or in the off 1039 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,720 Speaker 1: season program. Remember this is not mandatory, Um, sax Harrison. 1040 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 1: I think whenever he gets back, he's gonna be great 1041 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: at what he is. Then then I'm not worried about it, 1042 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you. Yeah, Um, And and 1043 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,919 Speaker 1: again we're never gonna know that, and we probably would 1044 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 1: never even if we did know what say it here 1045 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: on bb K, but I will tell you that, you know, 1046 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 1: there's I think it'll work itself out, like John said, 1047 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: And as long as the coach and the player on 1048 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: the same page, that's all you really care about, to 1049 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: be honest with you. Yeah, A good deal. Last thing, Jeff, 1050 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: would you been on the show? You know? One thing? 1051 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 1: Um with with Brad Wing. I thought you obviously did 1052 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: a pretty good job and obviously you were one of 1053 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: the best ever at the directional punty the guys that 1054 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: they have in camp. Now, Um, the one thing with 1055 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: Brad Wing and I don't know, everybody doesn't have a 1056 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: strong leg, but when your offense is struggling like our 1057 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: the Giants were, last year. Man, sometimes you just need 1058 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: somebody to reverse that seal position. And it just seemed 1059 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: like the last two years, you know, if we were 1060 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: as many three announces as we had, it was just like, 1061 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,040 Speaker 1: you know, come on, man, please mail one and and 1062 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 1: help us out here. And that thing traveled to the 1063 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 1: fifty or the opposing forty five, and it just seemed 1064 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: like he had a real hard time. I mean, sometimes 1065 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: you don't need a directional kick. Sometimes you need to 1066 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: help that offense out and flip the field. I know 1067 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 1: you're not gonna flip it every time. I know you 1068 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 1: can't afford to boom it every time and not get 1069 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: the hang time on it. Um. How's the guy's legs 1070 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: strip that you've seen so far with the food they've 1071 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: got in? Can you comment on that or anything the 1072 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: importance of that? Sure, no problem. I think that you know, 1073 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: right now, it's May and a lot of these guys 1074 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: I know that I didn't start kicking until May, um 1075 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: after the season ended, So you know, they're really I 1076 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: can't you know, I'm just they're a little bit raw 1077 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 1: right now as far as you know, getting back into it. Um, 1078 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: I think that Roley Dixon is a guy that he 1079 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: came from Denver. He's been in the league for three 1080 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 1: or four years, and I think he has some experience. 1081 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: He's a big kid. Um. I I just wonder you know, 1082 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,240 Speaker 1: he played in Denver, so his numbers up there in Denver. 1083 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,040 Speaker 1: Their travels a little bit, so we'll have to see it. 1084 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 1: You know, what happened to demise of Brad Wayne was 1085 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: in between his years and then in his mindset. He 1086 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 1: had the legs, strength, he had everything like that. It's 1087 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: just just couldn't get get get things straightened out and 1088 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: mentally for him. Um. And so hopefully Riley there and 1089 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 1: the other young man that's in here, um, but I 1090 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: haven't had I've seen him both kick a little bit. 1091 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't give you an analogy of them because 1092 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: in fact it's analysis of them. But thank you just 1093 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: a little bit early in the game right now. Thank 1094 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: you so much, David. And by the way, I just 1095 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 1: from my perspective, he can get some crazy hang Tom 1096 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 1: hunt his pumps. He's six fours two twenty. He's before 1097 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 1: the tallest kicker I've ever seen with the Giants. Matt 1098 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 1: Dodge might have been more bulbous and keep either he's 1099 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: a tall guy. So he was getting some nice hang 1100 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: to on a lot of those pumps. And again it's 1101 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: it's early. I mean, these guys don't really start kicking 1102 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 1: until now. Oh my god, for everyone's favorite game. I 1103 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: like that. Did he play with Jeff Eagles? I don't 1104 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 1: have a great memory. Two NFL seasons, hundreds of players 1105 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 1: Eagles with the Eagles. Let's see who Jeff remember, verse 1106 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: you can make a mockery of my memory. And here 1107 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: we go. It's been about two months since you played 1108 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: this game, not since the draft, maybe before that. All right, 1109 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: here we go, Jeff. Did you play with Joe Williams? 1110 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: Did you play with Joe Williams Williams Joe Williams. No, 1111 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: I don't remember Joe Williams. Now I know, and I 1112 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: thought I had you here because you played with a 1113 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 1: James Williams when you were in Seattle. I know what 1114 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,760 Speaker 1: a lot of Williams, but no Joe Williams's Joe Williams 1115 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: even made Williams. I'm gonna say, you know, I probably 1116 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: should have done this before I asked the question, because 1117 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 1: they probably are a bunch of Joe Williams that played. 1118 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: Did any Joe Williams play with Jeff Let's see seven 1119 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: Joe Joe Williams nine. Okay, so you weren't in the 1120 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: league for that Joe Williams. Oh, that that's a Joel Williams. No, 1121 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: you're good, You're good. There was now no Joe Williams. 1122 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 1: How about the fact that's only been like to Joe 1123 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: Williams in a history of football, that that's like the 1124 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: biggest surprise ever that you improved a tenaade I got 1125 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 1: and that's how I got that because I don't remember 1126 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: Joe Williams. I remember a lot of other words. Did 1127 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: you play with Mike Young? Did you play with Mike Young? 1128 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: I know I played with a Young. I don't know 1129 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: if it was Mike, though, I'm gonna say no, Greg, 1130 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: here we go, Mike Young have played with Jeff Eagles 1131 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 1: and three for the Philadelphia Eagles. He was a wide 1132 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: receiver that was six, one hundred and eighty seven. But 1133 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: that was who I thought the Young was. But I 1134 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: don't remember if he was alright, did not like he 1135 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: was a return guy though. All right, so that's a 1136 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: loss that put your only one game over five. But 1137 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,839 Speaker 1: I am and I will. Let's see if you can 1138 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: stay over five hundred with the last one. You play 1139 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: with Cedric Smith? Yeah, definitely. Cedric Smith was a fullback 1140 00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 1: and I believe I played him with in Arizona. You 1141 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: played with Cedric Smith in Arizona? You are correct? What 1142 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: position did he play? Three? Three? He's a good guy. 1143 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 1: It Actually he went on to be a strength coach 1144 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Really yeah, I don't know for what team, 1145 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: but might still be in might still be in the 1146 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,760 Speaker 1: league now eleven and nine on the year, two games 1147 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 1: over hanging on by the skin of your teeth. I 1148 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 1: was surprised. I mean, with the name williams Now, I 1149 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: thought one of your I'm gonna one of your tweets 1150 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: by the way, over this weeek was fantastic. I want 1151 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 1: to ask you about it all right? According to Jeff Eagles, 1152 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 1: apparently when it comes to interior decorating, colors and textures 1153 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: will be the name of the game. They will. Can 1154 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: you tell me about some colors and textures in interior decorating, 1155 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: Jeff Eagles? Everyone must know that. The reason I know 1156 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 1: all this is because my wife has her own store 1157 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: lighting and furniture and resale, and she is a designer 1158 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 1: oh see, I thought us because of your real estate stuff. No, 1159 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 1: that has something to do it. But my wife is 1160 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: amazing at what she does and i'm and I'm in 1161 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 1: on all of it. So I know about texts, I 1162 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: know about colors. I know about by the way, you 1163 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: know what textiles are, right, don't you? You mean the 1164 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: textile injury? No text industry in the yeah you mean textures. 1165 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: No textiles. I know things are like clothes and pillows 1166 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: are made out of textiles like the textile industry. You know, yes, drapes, 1167 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: things like that. So she so she creates stuff? No, no, 1168 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 1: she is, she's uh she actually will you know if 1169 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: you need your house designed, she knows how to put 1170 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: together design stuff, furniture, carpeting, you know all that kind 1171 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: of good. Do you have any input in how your 1172 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: own house is decorated? None? Whatsoever? Do you can get? 1173 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,720 Speaker 1: You give an opinion of any kind? I give my opinion. 1174 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 1: It never works. But no, no, no, I actually do 1175 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: pretty well, I really do. Now Now, now does she 1176 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,800 Speaker 1: humor you and think you made a good suggestion and 1177 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 1: just like what you can play with? Honestly, if she 1178 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 1: was sitting next to me, she would give me props. 1179 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 1: I am pretty good at really. Yeah. Absolutely. If you 1180 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,280 Speaker 1: go and look at some of my open house pictures 1181 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: um from you know, when I'm selling homes and I 1182 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,880 Speaker 1: actually helped put the you know, when we do the 1183 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 1: pictures for the house. I can set up stuff pretty good. 1184 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: That's just because I'm used to it. Yeah, if you 1185 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 1: want to meet, well, I believe you. Yeah. Yeah, so 1186 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 1: my Instagram I get these are these some of these 1187 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 1: automatic things that go through there. Some of them are good. 1188 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 1: Pay attention to them. They do. They're all relative to 1189 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 1: what's going on. And I can, I can, I can 1190 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 1: approve this one. The residential home inspection, is it fact 1191 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: an important part of the real process by far one 1192 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 1: of the most important. Yes, And you know, yeah, how's that? Boy? 1193 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: They're doing still okay, okay, okay, okay, thank you, You're 1194 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: welcome everybody. It was fun. Man. Listen, It's not Friday, 1195 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 1: but it's all it feels like Friday, because this is 1196 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: Friday going to the holiday weekend. And by the way, 1197 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: I love Memorial Day weekend because I'm a swimmer and 1198 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: the price I swim at the pool opens this weekend 1199 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: so I can go outside to the ocean for you, 1200 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: I'll do the ocean, not right now, fifty degrees forget 1201 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 1: about off those sharks. Yeah, but this is uh. I 1202 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: know this is a fun time because this is really 1203 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 1: the start of summer. And by the way, we should 1204 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: say this too. I know a lot of people, you know, 1205 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: say thank you to the veterans on Memorial Day weekend, 1206 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: and obviously should always thank the veterans for their service. 1207 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 1: We do that. Remember, Memorial Day weekend is really here 1208 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 1: to honor the people that have fallen in service to 1209 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 1: the country. So UH to all the families and survivors 1210 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 1: and people that lost someone because they serve the country. 1211 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, um for your sacrifice, and of course UM, 1212 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 1: thank you for those that actually didn't make that sacrifice 1213 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: allowing us to have the fun we have here and 1214 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: bb K and the fun everyone's gonna have over Memorial 1215 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: Day weekend. Thank advantage the next two days. I understand 1216 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: sun name when they might be a little raeny makes 1217 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 1: so make sure you get the fun and folks for 1218 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: Jeff fagles On, John, thanks for joining us. We'll see 1219 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: you next time on johnts dot com. Everybody have a 1220 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: wonderful day.