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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast is a spicy that's spicyfol

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Speaker 1: so from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL. UM,

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansas, got some heroes with me. Greg Rosetal, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: all right, good job NFL. I see, I see you.

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Speaker 1: I see what you're doing. You're trying to clear the decks.

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Speaker 1: Nothing to see here, drop some news on Monday, although

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Speaker 1: we know that story is not over yet around Deshaun Watson. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's throw out the next wave that the second worst

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Speaker 1: story of the offseason. Let's try to like get that

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Speaker 1: off the table ahead of the Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 1: The efforts there, Greg, you gotta give him credit for

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Speaker 1: the effort being there well, and I appreciate the way

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Speaker 1: they structured it so we could get the minisott out

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Speaker 1: Monday kind of clear our deck here, but also gave

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Speaker 1: us a nice meatia topic to start this show with.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're they're planning it around up. Thank you, League.

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Speaker 1: There was there was a There were several funny moments

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Speaker 1: leading up today's today's taping. UM. One of them was

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Speaker 1: when Mark realized in real time that we were actually

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Speaker 1: doing extra show this week, that the Monday show wasn't

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Speaker 1: replacing one of the initially and you can actually see

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Speaker 1: the lights go out behind the eyes but not well no,

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Speaker 1: so you know, we we decide typically a day before,

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna do with our segment outside of the

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Speaker 1: news part of the show, and we all put we

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Speaker 1: all put our certain um personal stamp and were prepared

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Speaker 1: in our own ways for it. And this was which

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Speaker 1: quite involved UM segment that took a lot of imagination

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Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, personal, why are you keeping

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Speaker 1: it a secret? Well, it's it's team slogans. And I

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Speaker 1: spent like three hours coming up with a variety of

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Speaker 1: teams slogan we're gonna do today, We're gonna do four

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Speaker 1: minutes before when we were gonna tape an hour ago,

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Speaker 1: that we're switching gears, and so it was suddenly you know,

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Speaker 1: That's why I felt a little um agitated. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: and U some handled it, uh more gracefully than others.

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Speaker 1: But here we are didn't have a meltdown or anything.

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Speaker 1: I don't even that didn't even say anything. Now, no meltdown.

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Speaker 1: I was just saying there was any it Yeah, okay, see,

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Speaker 1: I was just I'm just saying there was a lot

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Speaker 1: show energy a guy. You're a big time prep guy.

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Speaker 1: To your point, though it's Big Rod week, it does

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Speaker 1: feel like Big Rod week because frankly, this story and

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Speaker 1: but like it's been so off the radar. I didn't

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Speaker 1: much as he did, which I think was a pleasant surprise. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then he still got this three day peer it

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Speaker 1: And I really think it's like his chance uh to

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Speaker 1: I think those two things in a row would be

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Speaker 1: a very positive week for Roger Goodell in a way

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Speaker 1: There was a neatness to the resolution of this Dolphins

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Speaker 1: what's kind of jumping out to us that's interesting. But first, yes,

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Speaker 1: while team owner Stephen Ross has been suspended through October

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Speaker 1: And yes, there was tampering that involved Tom Brady and

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Speaker 1: Scenario was called egregious, and that was a correct word

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Speaker 1: But if he is on the Dolphins, he just lost

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Speaker 1: step in for that sudden and that suddenly thin wide

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Speaker 1: receiver group. He's been diagnosed with a broken foot. He's

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Speaker 1: out for six to ten weeks. And I don't need

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Speaker 1: to tell you that a foot injury for a wide receiver. Um,

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Speaker 1: you don't know when he comes back if he will

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Speaker 1: be the same guy, And it might be next July. Man,

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Speaker 1: I never felt myself, but now I'm better than ever.

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Speaker 1: Also Van Jefferson, the Rams wide receiver, another important piece

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Speaker 1: uh in a wide receiver room. This for the defending champs.

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Speaker 1: He'll undergo knee surgery this week. He's uncertain for Week one. Um.

439
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: Also Broncos wide receiver Tim Patrick carded off with an

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Speaker 1: apparent knee injury at practice today. This happened, uh, so

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Speaker 1: hopefully that's not too serious. He seemed to be a

442
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Speaker 1: guy greg who could step up in that offense with

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson to take the next step in his career. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He he was maybe their best receiver last year, making

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Speaker 1: the lead candidate even absolutely. Um and hit where he

446
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Speaker 1: wins matches up well with where Russell Wilson wins. You

447
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: deepen on the outside, certainly, But I think you know

448
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: putting these three stories together, and this is why you

449
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Speaker 1: know Dan's the host with the post here. Um, it's

450
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Speaker 1: like it presents a contrast. Two of these teams have

451
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Speaker 1: incredible wide receiver depth here. It's like the Rams. Yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: that third receiver slot looks pretty grizzly. A lot of

453
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Speaker 1: questions here now, but they still have Cooper Cup and

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Speaker 1: Allen Robinson. The Broncos still have Jerry Judy in Courtland

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Speaker 1: Sutton and Handler and they're good, Whereas the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: Michael Gallup coming off a torn a c l might

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Speaker 1: not be ready for the start of the season. I

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Speaker 1: never was that high on James Washington to begin with, right,

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Speaker 1: I feel like, if you can't succeed in Pittsburgh. I

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Speaker 1: know Ben was there, but like that, usually receivers find

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Speaker 1: a way to succeed there and he really didn't. Um

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Speaker 1: you have Gallup coming off the injury, you have Ceedee Lamb,

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Speaker 1: but man, you really don't have anything else at wide out.

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Speaker 1: But beyond that, like it mixed the Marii Cooper trade,

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Speaker 1: which was you know, at the at the outset when

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Speaker 1: it happened, they got very little for Amari Cooper. That

467
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Speaker 1: just looks worse for the Cowboys right now. There's no

468
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Speaker 1: depth there. Jalen tiber their rookie is a third round pick.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna he's stepping around it Okay, like that'd

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Speaker 1: be great. He's a third round pick who's supposed to

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Speaker 1: play mostly in the slot, and I hope he's great.

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Speaker 1: But if you're counting on a third round pick before

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Speaker 1: I ever seen him, as you're like hard number two

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Speaker 1: to start the year. That's also with a Mari Cooper

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Speaker 1: because now it looks especially Dad. But for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: they weren't really into the Amari Cooper experience anymore. All right,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, trade him away. But then the mistake is

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Speaker 1: you don't really you're not aggressively looking for someone you

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Speaker 1: could count on, slide in, count on like someone like

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Speaker 1: I have an announcement to make because I'm so sick

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Speaker 1: of this. I have an announcement to make, all right,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I have an announcement. Graver have two Will Fuller.

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Speaker 1: That announcement announcement is I am now Will Fuller's agent.

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Speaker 1: He is not aware of this, but I am actively

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Speaker 1: now representing Will Fuller because whoever his agent is is

486
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Speaker 1: not doing the job. He is a perfect flyer guy

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Speaker 1: if he's healthy in the right mind to slide into

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Speaker 1: Dallas with that quarterback in that offense and make us

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Speaker 1: there is reporting out there a number of teams are

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Speaker 1: into will Fuller but waiting a little bit to pick

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Speaker 1: him up. Don't wait because then somebody else picks him up,

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Speaker 1: and then what does that even mean? I saw that too.

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Speaker 1: That's his his agent feeling the heat from hands, right,

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Speaker 1: he's feeling the heat from hands. Is like, I gotta

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Speaker 1: get something out there. He calls up Aaronde, my former

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Speaker 1: colleague at Pro Football now Pro Football Network, uh, saying okay,

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Speaker 1: that makes sense, but I'm gonna top you here. They've

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Speaker 1: got twenty million dollars in cap space. You got more

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Speaker 1: than I think every team in the league other than

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Speaker 1: the Browns. Uh, Odell Beckham, Dallas Cowboy. It just makes

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Speaker 1: too much sense. Someone should like, whatever the going rate

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Speaker 1: for O b J is, just overspend and make it

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Speaker 1: a three year deal and see what happens. How about this, well,

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh mentioned Odell Beckham again, right, and the Rams

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Speaker 1: have to be available till November. I get it. The

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Speaker 1: Rams are confident that they're going to be able to

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Speaker 1: bring him back, but money talks. If if the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are like, hey, come come rehab with us, We're not

509
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Speaker 1: We know you won't be back to October or November

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Speaker 1: that toys with the Odell Beckham painting on the wall

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Speaker 1: here where he's now in a RAMS uniform and the

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Speaker 1: two hour time limit. The man has the painter um behind.

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Speaker 1: Uh sorry cam Akers still Odell's number. Cam Akers changed

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Speaker 1: his number to number three. So Odell does come back

515
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: to the Rams, he has to switch numbers. Super awkward

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00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: behind Ceedee Lamb right now, Noah Brown, Jalen Tilbert, seem Faeco.

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Speaker 1: How about we signed both? How about we bring Odell

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Speaker 1: and Will Fuller in now as Will Fuller's agent. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's me Fuller Agent. Like, is he in the right

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Speaker 1: place mentally and physically? Because you know there was some

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Speaker 1: high He did get paid I believe about eleven million

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Speaker 1: dollars from the Dolphins last year and between injuries there

523
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: was a suspension problems. He hasn't necessarily been available. Okay,

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Speaker 1: two things you need to know. He's in the best

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Speaker 1: shape of his life. One two. Last year was humbling

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Speaker 1: for him, but mentally he feels that was a clear

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00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: the decks type year and he feels like he's never

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Speaker 1: been more passionate about the sport and wanting to make

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Speaker 1: an impact. While he's still turned in his prime, so old,

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Speaker 1: where do I sign? All right, real quick, before we

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Speaker 1: go to break, let's hit a couple more things. Orlando Brown,

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Speaker 1: the tackle for the Chiefs, will report to training camp.

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Speaker 1: He's there. Uh, he was upset about playing under the

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Speaker 1: franchise tag. He wants that huge new contract. Mark just

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Speaker 1: telling him how much he should make. Mark says, take

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Speaker 1: the hundred and ninety million or ninety million, whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: And I'm saying, go get your worth Orlando Brown. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm an agent, so I'm coming from the player deserves

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Speaker 1: what he's worth. Maybe in person that off that because

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Speaker 1: what Orlando Brown's specified while after returning to Kansas City

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Speaker 1: was there weren't enough guarantees in that contract for him,

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Speaker 1: so that's why he turned into land. Brown is lifted

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Speaker 1: at six eight and three forty four pounds. I think

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00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: that would be a good conversation in person for you

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00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: and him to absolutely and sounds perilous. Finally, Ryan Carrigan

546
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Speaker 1: Happy Trails. We saw him at the NFL Talent summit. Uh,

547
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: being upstaged um you could say, by Gerald McCoy. But

548
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: seemed like a very nice man and uh uh, well

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Speaker 1: put together, well spoken. I could see him having a

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Speaker 1: career media. Maybe we'll cross pass maybe in this building.

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Speaker 1: You think that's what he was going for by being

552
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: at that summit, you know what, I kind of conflated

553
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Speaker 1: memories and for some reason I thought he was like

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00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: a fifth wheel on the Jenny Garth uh and Tori

555
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: Spelling discussion. But he wasn't what he was somehow. Yes,

556
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Speaker 1: at the summit last month in Santa Monica, he was

557
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Speaker 1: on the Hey players, let's get real, uh, him and

558
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy, and they were essentially what it was like

559
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: to be a player and deal with Maybe he didn't

560
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: like it because he's been showing up at Commander's practices

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00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: and they say in an unofficial capacity, Uh, he's kind

562
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: of checking out whether he wants to become a coach potentially,

563
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: but he's not ready to say whether. Ninety five and

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Speaker 1: a half sacks. But I mean, that's quite a great career.

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Speaker 1: That's I looked him up consistently productive. When he was

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Speaker 1: on the stage, I looked him up and said, Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's a nice career for the form four Pro Bowls.

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Speaker 1: I've seen people try to make Hall of Fame cases

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Speaker 1: around pass rushers with similar ish profile. I don't think

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00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Kerrigan will get any Hall of Fame pop and

571
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't personally put him in that category. But like

572
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: four Pro bowls, like sometimes those guys they get thrown

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Speaker 1: in the mix. You wonder Mark, given his ties to

574
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Speaker 1: the commanders, what he feels about a certain five sided

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Speaker 1: government building in DC. A lot of commanders in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. And the Pentagon. I don't beliefs. I I

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Speaker 1: think it's fair to have a suspicion about what goes

578
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Speaker 1: on in the Pentagon. It's one of my favorite training

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Speaker 1: camp battles this year, Sessler v. Pentagon. Why is that

580
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: such a such a in the whole thing too? All right,

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Speaker 1: that's fair enough. Let's take a break and we'll be

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Speaker 1: right back with spurs. All right, here we go. Now,

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Speaker 1: we were given greg a heart out thirty three minutes

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Speaker 1: for Mark, so we need to finish this show in

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00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: that window. I I I don't treat his heart out

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00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: as my heart out. Like if that's how the show flows,

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00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: great and Mark can make the decision whether to leave

588
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: or not at that moment um talk until sunset. If

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00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: I found in the past sometimes he'll say a heart out,

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00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: but um the follow like he'll still just well, it's

591
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: been a big, big time week on the podcast, and

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00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: you were given you were giving it to me a

593
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: little bit early in the week about hands this time,

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Speaker 1: and then sometimes I show up a couple of minutes late.

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Speaker 1: What about the other side, Mark with the heart out stuff,

596
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: like that's that's a different type of thing. What I

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00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: yesterday specified that I would like to begin at eleven am.

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Speaker 1: You're a big heart out guy, and then we did

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Speaker 1: not start until like twelve tent Especially as your career

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00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: becomes more and more ablished, I feel like you're getting

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00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: more and more vociferous with the heart outs as the

602
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: season goes on. Often often the heart outs become harder.

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00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I do I do? This is fiction?

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00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: I do know as like lately like look add that

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Speaker 1: to the AI D like we you know, we're we're

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00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: we're big business now. We we signed these deals. We

607
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: got a lot going on. We're trying to plan out

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00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: the season. Sometimes like we got to have these meetings

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00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: after the show, and I have learned it's sometimes perilous

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Speaker 1: to try to have an after show meeting with Mark

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Speaker 1: and be like Okay, let's talk about that thing. It's like, oh,

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00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: where's Mark? Where do you go? Cartoon? This is that

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Speaker 1: the listener has no concept of how fictional this all is.

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Speaker 1: This is like a little fictional. I would say, it's

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Speaker 1: just a little where's all right? We love you, buddy,

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00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: it's love. We don't want We know our time is

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00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: finite with you, and we like to draw it out

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00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: as much as we can because we know what You're gone, gone,

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Speaker 1: I always returned. All right, how about them? All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get into it. Let's get into it, whispers from

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Speaker 1: training camp, Mark, why don't you start us, buddy, I'll

622
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Speaker 1: go to Pittsburgh. That's been the most fun one. I

623
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Speaker 1: think it was me who said a couple of weeks

624
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Speaker 1: ago that I found the whole who said this podcast

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00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: doesn't have sex appeal? Did you hear that? That was

626
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Speaker 1: all three of us at the same time. That was nice,

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00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: That was raw. I was mentioning that. I just thought

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Speaker 1: the whole Mitch Trabiski thing was a tough sell on

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Speaker 1: the fan base, that why not Kenny pick it your draft,

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Speaker 1: pick your rookie, just start him now and get him

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Speaker 1: in there. But he has really, according to Marco Boli

632
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Speaker 1: of The Athletic, really struggled in camp noticeably that like

633
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Speaker 1: this is what he wrote. The Steeler's first round pick

634
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: has been erratic, inconsistent throwing the ball as he has

635
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Speaker 1: been saddled with all the third team reps throughout the

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Speaker 1: ramp up period. I get that that's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a different thing. It has some believing it will

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Speaker 1: be impossible for him to grow quickly enough to be

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Speaker 1: a week one starter in Cincinnati, especially if Mr Robiski

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Speaker 1: keeps progressing and Mason Rudolph continues to shine. It's been

641
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph that a lot of players have gone out

642
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: of their way to totally praise, and he was completely

643
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: an afterthought in this race. So at this point I

644
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: my stance on Kenny pickett Um is changing. I realized

645
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: it's camp practices and stuff, but in another universe, he's

646
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: shining from the neck up. He's in total command of it.

647
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: His throws look perfect, and that's not the case. It's

648
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: a good it's a good nug it's a good way

649
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: to start. I also caution to get too caught up.

650
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: We just turned the calendar over to August. He's figuring

651
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: out how to play at this level. I know he

652
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: knows where all the bathrooms are in the facility. But otherwise, um,

653
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: he is a rookie and he's probably swimming a little bit.

654
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: Let's see what he's like in three weeks. Let's see

655
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: when the preseason comes around. But it does, it's starting

656
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: to trend that direction with Rabinsky, which I will raise

657
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: my hand and say, I didn't think this is how

658
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: it was gonna play out, and maybe it is. Picket's

659
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to play a lot in the preseason,

660
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: But going back to O t s and mini camps,

661
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: this has been the consistent drumbeat that just he is

662
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: a step behind, and the Rudolph appreciation has been there

663
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: as well, and he's been He's been there the longest.

664
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Speaker 1: I I don't think Mason Rudolph has virtually any chance

665
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: to start Week one, but I would absolutely take the

666
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: over on one and a half Mason Rudolph starts for

667
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: this season. And I and I just thinking that the

668
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: worth pointing out Mason rudolph start last year against the

669
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: Browns was it was a totally respectable normal, like good

670
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: backup is start, That's all I'm saying, Like he he

671
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: was okay, yeah, yeah, I guess for me, I'm not

672
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: caught up like you guys aren't caught up in the

673
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: idea of Trabinsky exploding and finding his first round status

674
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: in terms of ability, But Mason rud Rudolph is below

675
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: that line, even like I'd rather see Trabinsky in a

676
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: new offense with a shot to lead a team in

677
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: week one, then Mason Rudolph, who I think we know

678
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: who he is. You can already hear people coming at

679
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: me being like he literally averaged four point seven yards

680
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: per attempt last year, but that you gotta watch that

681
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: horrible Lions game. It wasn't crazy weather, and he just

682
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: when you go look at Pro Football Reference after this

683
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: season and you go to the Steelers two page, it's

684
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: gonna have three different starting quarterbacks who have started multiple games,

685
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: I agree, what before just moving off Pittsburgh just because

686
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: I find them really interesting. There's been a lot of

687
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: hype about Calvin austin Um and the rather rookie George Pickens,

688
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: who was George Pickens was my favorite receiver maybe on

689
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: tape in this entire class. And there are two people

690
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: that Caboli and other writers are saying have not taken

691
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: long to adapt, and I think could have a pretty

692
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: big role this season. Austin is more of, you know,

693
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: the slot guy who catches, but Pickens is a really

694
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: interesting Rickie receiver. To all right, Greg, how about you

695
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: give us a alright, I want to start well, I

696
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: have so many you know, we were like what are

697
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: we gonna get in? What are we not going to

698
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: get in? I want to go positive. Let's go Travis

699
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: e t n hype emphasis on the e. We didn't

700
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: get to see him last year. Uh, Liz Frank, Uh,

701
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: great question. I think it was a it was a

702
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: foot injury last year for e t N. John Shipley,

703
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: who's really good covering this team for SI dot com

704
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: Jaguar Report, has said he he thinks he's a standout

705
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: from day one I've been These are great daily reports

706
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: that he's given. I like the teams that have a

707
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: reliable daily guy. And e t N to his mind,

708
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: looks like maybe the most explosive best player on that

709
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: offense so far that maybe the receivers haven't stepped up

710
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: quite as much. Trevor Lawrence looks like he's definitely taking

711
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: a step forward. But E t N is the guy

712
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: that we really haven't seen as a pro that I'm

713
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: excited to see not in the Hall of Fame game.

714
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: The Jaggers are playing Thursday night. They're not going to

715
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: put him out there for that. I would expect he'd

716
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: get some preseason snaps. We won't see him early, but

717
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: he he could absolutely have a monster role for them.

718
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: There are whispers that he'll be used in an Alvin

719
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: Kamara type way, um a debot type way potentially, And

720
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: I think it's he's got a much better offensive coaching

721
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: staff this time around. The last year, I could I

722
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: who's the jug head the coach last year, Rban Meyer.

723
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: I could totally see him making some comment in the

724
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: media like I didn't have a chance to, uh, you know,

725
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: coach Travis Etien when he's blown up in October. I

726
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: think that I think you had you had enough chances,

727
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. I think that's a great call. And like

728
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: we just talked about recently, one of the great Chris

729
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: westling Um statements that he made was watch out for

730
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: guys that pop in the summer and in training camp

731
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: and in preseason at running back, because that's usually a

732
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: sign that these guys are ready to do damage. So

733
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: maybe after a wipe out rookie season, what was it?

734
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: What was it? It was the Harlot Liz frame. And like,

735
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: I'm not saying we're all bad, like the writers aren't

736
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: bad at being scouts. I'm not the same like maybe

737
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: we are, but it does feel like running back is

738
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: an easier one where it's like you you know when

739
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: you see it, well, you can see their conditioning, you

740
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: can see that the explosion, and you can see how

741
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: they're they're moving. Tyson Campbell their second your cornerback, getting

742
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: a lot of hype there too, and he finished last

743
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: year really strong. So that draft, that draft class that

744
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: Urban had, it might end up for working out for Peterson.

745
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: What a legacy to let everyone know exactly all right,

746
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: let's let's stay optimistic. I like that. How about some optimism.

747
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: Who's the Who's the long time? And Don Pardo of Saturday,

748
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: Stevens c ago Um, Peter King, the Great Peter King

749
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: of NBC Sports. Uh. He had two dispatches, well many,

750
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: but among them that Wandel Robinson Um their second round

751
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: pick out of Kentucky, has been quote the star of

752
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: the Giants offense throughout training camp. They love the way

753
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: he's looked and how explosive he's been and how he's

754
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: been they've been using him all over the field, and

755
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: how that could um. That could absolutely open up a

756
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: Giant's offense under Brian Dable. That could use a little juicy. Also,

757
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: King reported that se Kuon Barkley take this with a

758
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: grain of salt if you wish, but I'm just letting

759
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: you know that se Kuon Barkley quote looks very good

760
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: early in camp health wise, has answered every bell uh

761
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: and has had a solid off season. And you you

762
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: wonder if with a better offensive line and a better

763
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: coaching staff, whether Barkley can I don't know if he

764
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: ever gets back to that guy flesh out of Penn State,

765
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: but can be a true RB one And the most

766
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: important part of all this Daniel Jones. I'll report, I can.

767
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: I will not report, but I will tell you the

768
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: reporting out of Giants camp just today this morning. This

769
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: from Jordan's I always get this one, Ranan ronnin Here's

770
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: the quote. Daniel Jones absolutely tearing it up today at

771
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: Giants Camp. Connor Hughes, who recently moved from the Jets

772
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: Beat to a hybrid New York Beat UM, also reported

773
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: I had Daniel Jones fourteen of sixteen today with three

774
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: through two touchdown passes and a pick and uh, I

775
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: don't know what else to tell you other than watch

776
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: out a little bit, just a little bit, keep your

777
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: eye on the Giants in the NFC East. I know

778
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: that the Eagles are high bunnies, and I know the

779
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys are there defending champions, but with better coaches and

780
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: big step from like for them as a fun team

781
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: and watch out for them when they maybe a fun

782
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: team in the NFC East is a team that being

783
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: the race into Scember. I want to add a little

784
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: nugget to that because if you look at what happened

785
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: to Kadarius Tony this offseason, and there's moments from last

786
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: year where it was like, I have a good feeling

787
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: this guy is going to make a big difference if

788
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: he sticks with the Giants. They were gonna trade him.

789
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: They decided not to do that when they drafted wan

790
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: Deal Robinson. They have a very similar skill set. Instead

791
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: of you know that washing away Tony's role like he's

792
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: completely healed his relationship with Brian Dable, They're not like

793
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: playing Kadarius Tony is a rapper, like they're playing his

794
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: songs during warmups and stuff. And Darius Tony because he

795
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: was a bit of a headcase last year. I well,

796
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: you know exactly you said. He said that that that

797
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: that appreciated. He appreciated that from the coach because it

798
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: showed a willingness to build a relationship with me. And

799
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: day Balls turned around and said, I think he's a

800
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: very loyal, loyal, gap loyal guy about Tony. That, um,

801
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: he's been a tremendous skill set. They are using Wanton,

802
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: Dale Robinson and Tony. They start practice with them taking

803
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: handoffs with the running backs. They're using them out of

804
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: the backfield of a ton and they're gonna both be

805
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: on the field at the same time. And I'm with you.

806
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: I think the Giants are slightly spicy. There's a backfire

807
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: potential though, when you play one of the guys on

808
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: the team's rap. Like you know, some of these guys,

809
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: all professional athletes or a lot tend to want to

810
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: be rappers, and all rappers want to be professional athletes.

811
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: That's been going on forever. But you wonder if if

812
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: it's bad, if it's bad, and then Leonard Williams doesn't

813
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: know it's Wandel, He's like, wow, this is terrible. I

814
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: think Tony is making it very clear that it's his.

815
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: Let's make it clear. Hey guys, this is the Kentucky

816
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: kids like fledgling rap career, it's Tony's. It's Tony's, but

817
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: Tony's to your point, we're thinking something, maybe thinking let's

818
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: just make sure it's very clear. Table Tables also mentioned that, um,

819
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, he's been honest. He's like I like some

820
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: of his songs better than others. Like Top ten Football Insider,

821
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: the one Dale pick was not popular. But if you

822
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: were going to pick a coach that would know how

823
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: to use a guy at his size one Dale Robinson, Wow, all,

824
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: I think it would be Brian Dable And maybe it's

825
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: just like an Isaiah mackenzie and Buffalo role for him.

826
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: To me, they're not that similar. I mean, Tony's at

827
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: least fifteen pounds bigger. Um can win on the outside

828
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: a little more. Uh is one of my favorite making

829
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: the leap candidates. And yeah, they have that opening game

830
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: in Tennessee, right, and then you get the Panthers week

831
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: two before a Monday night er against the Cowboys, or

832
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: maybe it's the Sunday night as a okay, show me something.

833
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: Giants early be that team that Dan was talking about

834
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: that gets out fast and gets everyone too excited. I

835
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: would like that. How about it's mid December and the

836
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: Eagles and Cowboys are eight and six battling it out

837
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: for the NFC's titled with there the Giants quietly seven

838
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: and seven right behind them. But if I had to

839
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: pick a new team, the Giants might be it, because

840
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: that's the thing that we grew up watching. And yeah,

841
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: that's your neck of the woods really in Connecticut. When

842
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: when we were there, and I grew up only fifteen

843
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: minutes from Connecticut, you were a different part. But the

844
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: part of Connecticut you were was. I would guess Giants

845
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: for the moment. We would never We'd never get the Patriots,

846
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: you'd get the circle full circle. But there's no Lawrence

847
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: Taylor and Bill Simms and Joe Morris and Leonard Marshall

848
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: there anymore. But maybe these are this new crop of

849
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: players were all jell this year. I mean, Joe Morris

850
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: is like fifty two years old at this point, so right,

851
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: Joe Morris ain't walking through those doors. How about another whisper?

852
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: All right, how about we go to uh yeah, then

853
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: it we all went right. I think that I'll go

854
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: to San Francisco. There was Trey Lance is has has

855
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: had a slow start, according to Up and Down Not no, not,

856
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: It's not the same thing as Lance fatigue. Now it's

857
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: August second, bro, I don't I think this nint This

858
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: is interesting, but this has Actually it's a good thing

859
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: about the Niners because the reason this is happening. They

860
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that he was on the field

861
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: with Deebo, Samuel brandan Au, George Kittle, Elijah Mitchell, Trent Williams,

862
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey, They're all out there and they were struggling,

863
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just because it's Trey Lance. It's because

864
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: their defense has been on fire during training camp. And

865
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: NFL Network was there today and they said the same

866
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: thing that they view themselves as we're good with the

867
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: Trey Lance thing, but what we really see ourselves is

868
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: a team that centers around defense. This season, they'll they're

869
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: a top five unit and they have been dominating campaign,

870
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: which happened in general. Yes, but I think that sort

871
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: of raises my biggest concern about the forty Niners, which

872
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: is their offensive line. And right now, Trent Williams is

873
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: coming off of an injury, but they're potentially you know,

874
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: starting Jake Brendel at center. They have a rookie Uh

875
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: Buford that they've been giving looks with the first team

876
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: at guard. Aaron Banks is another guy there, brun Skill.

877
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: Like on paper it could be problematic, and then you

878
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: have to go up against one of the best defensive

879
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: lines in the league every day in practice. It's not

880
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: too surprising to me that they're getting worked. Even though

881
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: the forty Niners are short a couple of linemen now

882
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: they lost more res earst who had a good chance

883
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: was going to make their team for the entire season,

884
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: and they're their best defensive tackled Eric Arms. It's out

885
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. But uh that that always like

886
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: gets you worried, Like when one side of the ball

887
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: for your team is just dominating the other, Like do

888
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: you want to spend positive or is it because they're offensive?

889
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: Wind stinks it's positive and negative. Um, I don't know.

890
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a sauce gardener or

891
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: maybe it was d J. Moore had to pick six

892
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: of Zach Wilson. I was like, Yeah, it's time people

893
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: giving an ayuk a lot of love, though I'm definitely

894
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: feeling like the bound the bounce back hype year because

895
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: his numbers. Actually, in the last eight games of the year,

896
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: he had more receiving yards than Diebo Samuel. He was

897
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: a top fifteen in the NFL receiver in the last

898
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: eight games of the year. That could be a nasty

899
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: escape to Shannahan Doghast during last year, right, then a

900
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: nasty one to punch because Heat, to me is like

901
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: a special guy. After the catch, I meant DJ read,

902
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: not d J Moore, J read that that was a

903
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: nice little any good roster alright, I went positive. Initially

904
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: we got we gotta mentioned um our friend Carson wentz

905
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: over there in Washington because I think he's like he's

906
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: got the right idea that he's trying to maybe UM

907
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: trying to take decided to really go ahead and start

908
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: to take command. The best part of that is that

909
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: you because the way we need to set that up,

910
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: that also gives our producer plenty of time to dig

911
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: up the drop. So I just I read there their

912
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: daily practice report every day, and like early in camp,

913
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: the one thing you don't see across the league is

914
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: just like, well he missed a lot of receivers. Before

915
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: there was tackling, before there was pads, and Washington's now

916
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: added the paths to the mix. But essentially every day

917
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: they're just talking about that Carson Wentz is not accurate

918
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: that he misses a ton of throws against air, which

919
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: has been his problem to begin with. And if you're

920
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: not getting that first training camp with the team sort

921
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: of preseason hype, I'm not going to overreact. Obviously, what

922
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: Wentz has done on the field in regular season play

923
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: is more important. But he just doesn't shoot straight. And like,

924
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: if that's happening when you're going against air, it's definitely

925
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: gonna happen when you're under pressure. Yeah, there was also

926
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: around the Washington the erstwhile Washington football team. I guess

927
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: they still are the Washington football team. Um. Curtis Samuel Um.

928
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: There is quote some concern from Ron Rivera about his

929
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: conditioning and he's also been dealing with some hamstring and

930
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: lower back tightness. This comes after the groin injury ruined

931
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: his first season with Watchington also kind of reminds you,

932
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: so that's not ruling out Curtis Samuel is being a

933
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: big time player for them, but remember the hype around

934
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel going into free agency last year. They need

935
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: him to help make Carson Wentz better. Because Carson Wentz,

936
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: we know what we have here, A little scattershot. He

937
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: can get hot, but he goes through cold streaks. His

938
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: leadership is can be questioned fairly. He is who he is.

939
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Samuel thirty four point five million dollar contract,

940
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: played eighty four offensive snaps and now there's some concern

941
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: over his conditioning. I don't like that at all. Got

942
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: paid though, which uh, Greg, I was just pulling up

943
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: your roster projected ROSTERISA that it used to be called

944
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: roster rest and then it became projected starters. Those there

945
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: are two separate different franchises, franchises active, both active, projected

946
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: starters very active. I believe Roster ESA is still done

947
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: by the uh the news death. I was looking at

948
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: the cults Um depth chart and what their starters look

949
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: like because there's been so much optimism around Matt Ryan

950
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: and what he brings that offense as Carson Wentz's replacement.

951
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: That's just an accidental great transition, not taking credit for it. Uh.

952
00:50:53,840 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: And we love Jonathan Taylor, We love Michael Hitman's ability. Um,

953
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell is a big part of this, though. They

954
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: kind of need another guy to step up, unless you're

955
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: a huge Mo Ali Cox fan. Um And according to

956
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: colts dot COM's J. J. Stankovitz, yes there was a yank.

957
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: There was an all glove, no field, no bat shortstop

958
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: during the dark Yankee days of the early nineties named

959
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 1: Andy Stankowitz. I remember that was a fan favorite. Could

960
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: not play und a memorable name. J J. Stankovitz reports

961
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: that Paris Campbell and Matt Ryan have shown a strong

962
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: connection during during the early days of Culture Training Camp.

963
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: We shall see if that carries over. That would be

964
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: my one question about this whole Matt Ryan renaissance, said,

965
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: people's well in the Midwest, obviously especially are getting pumped

966
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: up about does he have enough around him to be

967
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: a difference maker. As a pastor of the football, we

968
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: know he'll be able to hand it off to the

969
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: great running back, Paris Campbell a big piece of this.

970
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: Bob Kravitz of The Athletic added to the Matt Ryan

971
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: hype and the Paris Campbell hype, saying that basically Campbell

972
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: is impressed NonStop. He looks as quick as explode and

973
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: explosive as he did before all the health issues. So

974
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: that with Matt Ryan, they said that the offense has

975
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: been moving at warp speed, and I thought I took

976
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: this from Frank Reich as a slapdown of Carson Wentz

977
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: to some degree. He said, we had the same number

978
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: of plays we had in the past, but we actually

979
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: finished ten minutes earlier both days Wednesday and Thursday. And

980
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: that's because of the quarterback. That's because the quarterback is

981
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: pushing the temple. Mark loves Matt Ryan like they're they're

982
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: two birds of a feather, you know. I'm just saying, like,

983
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if it's been NonStop, he's got a

984
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: heart out, he is the quarterback, Mark would they're both

985
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: intense whites. Well, they are saying quick tempo nature. I'm saying,

986
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: like Mark Matt Ryan gets everyone done with work faster,

987
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: Like that's your kind. Take that a little bit as

988
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: like the last guy, Carson Wentz not only physically did

989
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: he have issues. You're right, you got it nailed. I

990
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: think they are absolutely thrilled. They've soured on Carson Wentz

991
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: to the point where by the same day of the

992
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: final game of the season. They were like, we are

993
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: done with this, dude. The owner literally summoned everyone back

994
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: to the team facility that night after a road game

995
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: in Florida and said, hey, we're firing the quarterback and

996
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: your next if this doesn't get better. So yeah, I

997
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: think they were ready for the best start. Paris Campbell

998
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: loved reminds reminds me of West West loved Paris Campbell that.

999
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: And that's the thing is this is sort of this

1000
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: is Paris Campbell season. And I've I've heard of an

1001
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: interview with him where I read an interview with him,

1002
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: and you just hope for the best for a guy

1003
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: like that, because you know the mental struggles that a

1004
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: player goes through when he's injured and out the whole season.

1005
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: This has happened three straight years for him, where he's

1006
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: sort of usually he flashes in August and you just

1007
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: like crossing your fingers that it can. Don't put that

1008
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: juju on, dude, what do you mean? I'm trying to

1009
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: put the opposite, but you you've put it in the air.

1010
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: It's the context of of everything about him, and he

1011
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: knows it, and he's like he's talking about you gotta

1012
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: he was saying, how you really appreciate the days you're

1013
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: out there now because of everything he's been through. But yeah,

1014
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: it would be an amazing story and they could use

1015
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: him to be a big time threat. All right. I

1016
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: ended on a positive. I also like number one wide receivers.

1017
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: It just looks good. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm looking

1018
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: at his game aloud. Last year, I think he only

1019
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: has three hundred career yards because he just hasn't been

1020
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: able to play. I think he's played two or three

1021
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: games every year, one or two. He had a he

1022
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: had a one catch for fifty one yards and a

1023
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: touchdown in Week six last year and then disappeared. That

1024
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: must have got hurt that game. That was a bomb

1025
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: from Wentz Winstead some nice threats. I want to go

1026
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: one more time around. Sure, I like nutes. I'll just

1027
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: be quick about the on and maybe we can get

1028
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: around more. I like when players pop up you've literally

1029
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: never heard of before. And Lamar Jackson's been talking about

1030
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: Isaiah likely their rookie tight end, calling him little Mark.

1031
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: He said. He said that in an interview with our

1032
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: guy Claibon on NFL Network. Nice nice get for claiban

1033
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: there uh, and so that's a rookie tight end. They're

1034
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: gonna be playing a lot more two tight ends. That's

1035
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: calling him little Mark for Mark Andrews is high praise

1036
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: though that's like something that someone I'm watching in the

1037
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: preseason Isaiah likely never heard of him practically before. Zion

1038
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: Johnson Chargers Camp their first round guard who is a

1039
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: big part of that line. He's next to Storm Johnson,

1040
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: who has been problematic. Corey Lindsley basically said that he's

1041
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: lived up to the bill right right now, it's the

1042
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: first day in pads, but everything we thought he is,

1043
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: he is. He's been a really good player. The Writer's

1044
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Popper of The Athletic has been raving about him too,

1045
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: that it's kind of the way that you felt when

1046
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: you watched for Shawn Slater's first reps that you just

1047
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: knew he was that guy. So if this checks out

1048
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: and it sounds good, that's big for Justin Herbert, big

1049
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: for that offense. Also to adoration um around Allen Robinson

1050
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: Rams Camp and the more I think about it, with

1051
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup there, with maybe Odell Beckham, but but with

1052
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup there coming off um the triple Crown Season Cup.

1053
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson just signed a new deal healthy motivated the show.

1054
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: He's still a dude. Doesn't it feel possible that Allen Robin,

1055
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: this is more prediction than anything, is going to be

1056
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: a dog this year in that offense with that quarterback,

1057
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: he might he might be your value. Got well, we

1058
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: got our hand up what he got? Grave digger digger y. Yeah,

1059
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: you know that. It's a little tardy. Actually, we were

1060
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: out at RAMS training camp yesterday for Bench with Benetta

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Speaker 1: podcast and Alan Robinson showed out. I mean he had

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Speaker 1: three or four catches that had the crowd going crazy.

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Speaker 1: I feel like a big season is in store for this.

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Speaker 1: How about this? Why don't we to RAMS camp in

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Speaker 1: a couple of days and see for ourselves that's around.

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Speaker 1: I would love an underrated player throughout his career coming

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Speaker 1: off a bad year. Can we get all Robinson on

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Speaker 1: the show? I will request it. Let's talk to Allen

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Speaker 1: Robinson about his incoming monster all proceedson. Did you steal

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Speaker 1: guests away from us? I think it necessarily works like that,

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Speaker 1: but well it's worked that way in the past. Possibly,

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Speaker 1: I will say possibly. Also, if you're watching this on

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Speaker 1: something to talk about why is Sean Kelly. Every time

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Speaker 1: I look at him, he's closer and closer to you.

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Speaker 1: He's wait shoulder to shoulders. It just so he can

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Speaker 1: be on camera again. He loves the camera. Stapleton wearing

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Speaker 1: around the NFL T shirt. Those in uh you know

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Speaker 1: on our Outwait, you can't get them even though we could.

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Speaker 1: At no point will this company ever say maybe we

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Speaker 1: can leverage are in that incredibly loyal listeners for some

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Speaker 1: merch no zero licensing rights for us ah anyway, eure up, No,

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Speaker 1: I just did. Allen Robinson's gonna be a stud and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna see him at RAMS camp one more quick one.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. It's not you, I'm going now, You're

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Speaker 1: right now? Is Mark DeAndre Swift? Every time I read

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Speaker 1: about him, people were glowing. The report says he operates

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Speaker 1: at a different speed from anyone else around him, and

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Speaker 1: during camp this week he pulled away from the from

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Speaker 1: the defense on a few big runs Saturday. Jamal Williams

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Speaker 1: as well. They want to run the ball. They've got

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Speaker 1: a great offensive line. I think it's a big year

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Speaker 1: for DeAndre Swift. I like that we've we've segged into predictions.

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Speaker 1: I like it. You got a prediction. No, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give a rapid fire whisp so farcom it's about that

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Speaker 1: second team life in Carolina. Something to keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on him. He always just pencil in these top ten

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Speaker 1: picks like any game tenders right away, and it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: He's behind Brady Christensen. You you bring a guy along slow, relie,

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Speaker 1: but he might be a little Where did you have

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Speaker 1: him on the projected starter series? As a starter? You

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Speaker 1: got a lot of time, but something to watch. Romeo,

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Speaker 1: Romeo Dubs getting it done in packer land. If you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be a rookie receiver with Aaron Rodgers, what a

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Speaker 1: name Romeo Dubbs. Maybe he's ahead of Christian Watson early.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm buying a little Dolphins offensive line hype.

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Speaker 1: Austin Jackson is suddenly in super good condition, which has

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Speaker 1: not always been the case. And then Connor Williams. They

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Speaker 1: they're playing at center, which is surprising, and I just

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Speaker 1: think that's sort of the one thing on their team

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Speaker 1: that can really improve the most. And on paper, I

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Speaker 1: think Mike McDaniel can get it done. Mm hmm. Good.

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Speaker 1: That's more of a prediction, But there was some news

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Speaker 1: in there. Connor Williams from the Cowboys at center was

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Speaker 1: quite a surprise. Uh, this shows you how fast things

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Speaker 1: go in the NFL. The twenty one overall pick of

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Speaker 1: the draft is Jalen Reagor. Nick Sirianni, the Eagles coach,

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Speaker 1: that he's battling for a roster spot, and kid, what,

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Speaker 1: how's with some of these guys, the wide receivers that

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Speaker 1: are taking high. If they don't pop, if they don't

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Speaker 1: flash that, they don't have a role, and they don't

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Speaker 1: play special teams, all of a sudden, it's like you

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Speaker 1: trade for a J Brown absolutely did with the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: to not do this offseason at wide receiver. Ian reported

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Speaker 1: our our our guy raps. She reported that second round

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Speaker 1: pick Tevin Jenkins, another guy everyone was just like slat

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Speaker 1: him right in. He's there, gonna be their left tackle

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Speaker 1: and prove them right away. Uh, second round pick from

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Speaker 1: last year, Dan is on the trade block and I

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Speaker 1: would guess they're gonna give him up for almost nothing.

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Speaker 1: They're basically giving up on him after only one season

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Speaker 1: with the team. And finally, I feel like this is

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Speaker 1: a good way to close from our one of our

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Speaker 1: friends at the athletic. Michael Sean Dugar. Oh yeah, that's MSD,

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Speaker 1: great reporter, and now another edition of I'm sipping on

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Speaker 1: vena che Listen man, Gino Smith, this is gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: This is happening. Let's it. Jimmy g parachutes in and

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Speaker 1: somehow is ready to roll. Gino Smith is gonna win

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Speaker 1: the shop. It looks like he's running with the first

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Speaker 1: team offense. And uh, Michael Seawan Dugard as I said,

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Speaker 1: UM said that Drew Lock exclusively pretty much Locke has

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Speaker 1: been a second team guy. And Pete Carroll had Pete

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Speaker 1: Ko by the way, is COVID right now, as does

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray step why I and Um, Yeah, they're they're

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Speaker 1: both out for both out right now. Had this to say,

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Speaker 1: presumably before he went into COVID hiding, was gonna leave

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Speaker 1: right now. And he's ahead, and so he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: looking back and he's going for me, and Drew is

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Speaker 1: not gonna take a back seat. So it's something's gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: you know. And and and Jake could be there if

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Speaker 1: we need him. So it's gonna be exciting to see.

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Speaker 1: I mean. They also mentioned that they've both been very down.

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Speaker 1: I've been tracking this daily and it sounds like the

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Speaker 1: offense hasn't gotten a lot done no matter who's behind center.

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Speaker 1: That Gino like cooks up the second team when he

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Speaker 1: gets the chance, which that's good, but otherwise, can I

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Speaker 1: hear that again? There's just some thing inherently humorous to

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Speaker 1: me about the entire quote was gonna leave right now,

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Speaker 1: and he's ahead, and so he's gonna he ain't look

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Speaker 1: him back. He's going for me. Look him back. You

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Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback. Good luck. Well that that's it

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Speaker 1: for that episode, and that was another edition of che

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Speaker 1: al right. Like we said, we have connor Or better

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Speaker 1: late than never. He'll be joining us tomorrow. We hope Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Wednesday wasn't his fault. He was supposed to be on today,

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Speaker 1: but guess what. The NFL exploded over the last two

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Speaker 1: days with big news out of h He extended this

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Speaker 1: connor Or doing some good reporting, uh learning and through

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Speaker 1: a source that Tom Brady would not be punished. He

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Speaker 1: was the first one day. Connor is a passionate writer,

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Speaker 1: he's a great reporter, and he was busy and absolutely

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Speaker 1: said can we push this and said absolutely, so We're

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Speaker 1: pushing until tomorrow. Barring some other Mondo news story that

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated needs him for, He's not allowed to cancel

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Speaker 1: two days. It would be a little weird, but again

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't be his fault necessarily. I think we get

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Speaker 1: how the business works. But I would like to see

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Speaker 1: him show up tomorrow. Team Slogan's Wednesday show, and yes,

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Speaker 1: we are heading two rams camp on Friday, UM at

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Speaker 1: one o'clock. And before that we will talk to Justin

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Speaker 1: about his little off the cuff comment about something about

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Speaker 1: going to camp with Rachel's podcast on Monday could adversely

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Speaker 1: affect this show. He seemed to not so, I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. I don't want to put words in his mouth.

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Speaker 1: I'm still processing. Okay, let's talk about that. We'll have

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Speaker 1: a lot to update this Tim Patrick news doesn't look good.

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Speaker 1: I might have an update there. Well, it's one o'clock,

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Speaker 1: so maybe we should close around. Cue the music. The

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Speaker 1: Man's gotta go where no one knows, no one asks either.

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Speaker 1: Still Wednesday, Heed the call. M