1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: Here we go. It's our number two. On a Monday 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: playoffs Baseball playoffs Dodgers tonight, Brewers Mariners take a one 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: zero lead in Toronto over the Jays. Bits surprising considering 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: the highly emotional series the Mariners just escaped from wild 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: weekend to college football is in the end of the 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: best team in college football. Penn State fires their coach. 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: J Mackett was a I said in from of a 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: TV for a lot of the weekend, it is it's 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: getting to be you know, it's crazy time. It's like, 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: you get to the point now people are going to 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: start getting fired with nil and the portal. There's so 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: much money in college football. It would have been you 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: would have never considered firing a coach a year after 21 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: he won thirteen games because he lost three close games 22 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: in a row. But that's the world we live in now. 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: It's like Praye, college football feels more pro than ever. 24 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: And he was in the semi final in overtime against 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: the Irish. By the way, how did you go an. 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: Hour without mentioning USC's romp over Michigan? 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: What happened? 28 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 4: Lincoln Riley's waiting. 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: For the for the props, I will say they pushed 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: Michigan around. That was that is what you have to 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: now they have to go on the road lench Notre 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: Dame where they're like an eight point dog and should be. 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're built to beat Notre Dame. 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: Weather's getting a little chili in the Midwest. But they pushed, 35 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: they pushed Michigan around. It wasn't that they won, it 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: was how they won. They won in the trenches with 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: a third string walk on running back. King Miller was unblolble. 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: Here we go, Colin Wright Colin wrong on. 39 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: A Monday where Colin was right. 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: Well, when the Eagles started four and oho, I said 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: they got a coaching issue. You can't tell me they're 42 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: beat up and injured. A lot of teams are beat 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: up and injured. They had a player's only meeting and 44 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: AJ Brown sort of denied it. I just I don't 45 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: I don't buy the Philadelphia Eagles. They are they're in 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: trouble right now. They're twenty eighth in yards per rush, 47 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: twenty fifth in the NFL in total offense. Even when 48 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: they were winning, I said, this isn't going to last. 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: This is the drip, drip, drip. And last week we 50 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: saw the Fawcet burst where Colin was wrong firing James Franklin. 51 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't get it. Apparently insiders at 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: Penn State are saying it was untenable. But I will 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: tell you he'd won ten plus games in three straight seasons. 54 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: Are you telling if if he beats you CLA at 55 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: the end of the game, you'd keep him. It feels 56 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: very reactionary to me. Again, they're a playaway from beating 57 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: Notre Name last year, what did they finish fifth in 58 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: the country. But this is the world we live in. 59 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 1: Get rid of the coach if there's any questions, And 60 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: I just don't like the way it looks I was wrong. 61 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: I would have never guessed this where Colin was right 62 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh, Oh, MVP Baker Mayfield. Yeah, A couple of 63 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: weeks ago, I said, I think he's MVP. He's never 64 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: been this good. And again, players get better, players get worse, 65 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: they regress. Look what's happened to Justin Field. Baker is 66 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: better now. He was good early. He didn't play with 67 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: his confidence. He's got nothing to work with. Bucky Irby, 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, Abuca got hurt. I said, two 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: or three weeks ago, let's not get ourselves here. This 70 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: is what an MVP looks like. And I said, Cleveland, 71 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: it was a poor fit. It's a bitter fan base 72 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: and an angry media poking them in the rips. Tampa's chill, 73 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles high IQ high EQ opening all the doors 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: for him every weekend. 75 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: More and more. 76 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: Baker's the MVP of this league. 77 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong? 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers four and one? Are they 79 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: going to wrap this division up in four to five weeks? 80 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: Aaron right now, smartly is getting rid of the ball 81 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: from snap to getting rid of the ball faster than 82 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: he has in his entire career. And I got to 83 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: tell you, with the size of his targets in Pittsburgh, 84 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: I think it's smart. There's there's no wow plays. He's 85 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: not doing that. He's doing the back shoulder. He's accurate. 86 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: He's completing seventy three percent. This is an offense for 87 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: the last seven years. And this is not the best 88 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: aeron This is old Aaron. This is an offense in 89 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: the last three weeks. He's got a one to twelve 90 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: passer rating. Now I know he's he's got an advantage. 91 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: That D fence is gobbling up backup quarterbacks. But it 92 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: looks good to me. Where Colin was right, I said, 93 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: New England, watch out. They're gonna be the double the 94 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: win total team in the NFL. This will be my 95 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: fourth year in a row. If I hit this after 96 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: the Raiders loss, I said, slow down between free agents 97 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: and draft picks. They're they're starting like a dozen new guys. 98 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 1: Don't freak out. When they lost to Pittsburgh. Guy said, 99 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: let it play out. No team is starting more new bodies. 100 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: Vrabel's brilliant. Guy Drake May's really good. And this is 101 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: one of those things where not all opening losses are 102 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: the same. Detroit's obviously a good team. They got housed 103 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: in the first game. New England lost to the Raiders. 104 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: I kept saying, don't worry, they'll figure away. They're building 105 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: a culture. And we were right where Colin was wrong. 106 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: I had Dante More as the number one pick last week. 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: He got out played by Fernando Mendoza and it wasn't 108 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: particularly close. Couple of picks minus twenty seven yards rushing, 109 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: didn't see the field particularly well, sacked six times. Listen, 110 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: Indiana's really good. Indiana's a really good football team and 111 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: really well coached. But Dante More it did not look great. 112 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: Let's just be honest about this. It was a really, 113 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: really bad game. Considering the quality of the staff and 114 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: the quality of Oregon talent, this was a stinker. 115 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: Where Colin was right. 116 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: Well, I said the Dolphins, I don't trust the culture 117 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: and the head coach. Here was Tua after losing to 118 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: the LA Chargers. Listen to this. 119 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 5: I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate 120 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 5: that for the guys, and then what we're expecting out 121 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 5: of the guys. Right, we're expecting this? Are we getting that? 122 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 5: Are we not getting that? We have guys showing up 123 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 5: to only player only meetings late, guys not showing up 124 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 5: to player only meeting Like there's a lot that goes 125 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 5: into that. It's a lot of it's a lot of 126 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 5: things of that nature that we got to get cleaned up. 127 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it till a little late. Three picks had the 128 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: game one toa basically saying is yeah, we don't have 129 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: a culture here of accountability. Not good. 130 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: Where Colin was right. 131 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: Let's wrap it up with this. The Mariners to go 132 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: one on lead in the American League Championship Series. I 133 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: said two weeks ago. Despite having the number fifteen payroll, 134 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: they are a more balanced even team than the Yankees. 135 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: They can defend, They have good starting pitching. Right now, 136 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: opposing hitters in the playoffs are hitting a buck eighty 137 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: three on Mariners pitching. Mendoza is a great closer. They 138 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: can hit for power station to station baseball. They can 139 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: do whatever you want. It's a very complete team. You know, 140 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: cal Rawley's their star. There's no question they're not as 141 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: star studded as a team like the Yankees, but the 142 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: Yankees don't do a lot well outside of hit home runs. Mariners, 143 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: I believe will make the World Series and they'll face 144 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: the Brewers when they get there. 145 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays 146 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: and Noone Eastern, non a em Pacific on Fox Sports 147 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 148 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: Hi. This is Jay. 149 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 6: I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show. 150 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 6: Usually in these promos they asked you to listen to 151 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 6: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen 152 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 6: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 153 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 6: have the dumbest takes on sports, imagicable. Don't listen to 154 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 6: the show so it can get camps. 155 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: What the hell are you doing in our studio? Get him, paul. 156 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: Ignore that fool. 157 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 4: Listen to the Pauline Tony Fusco Show on the iHeartRadio 158 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 4: app or wherever you get your podcast. 159 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 3: He's still moving. 160 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 2: Heard hierarchy time. 161 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: Now let's go the top ten NFL teams according to 162 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: College Number ten. 163 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: New England Patriots' easiest NFL schedule going forward. This is 164 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: not a mirage. Drake may leaves ranks top five income 165 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: poletion percentage, passing yards, big plays in passer rating. He's 166 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: getting better than average protection, He's got. 167 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: A running game. 168 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: The kid moves well. Easy schedule three and zero. Also, 169 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: as Jamak pointed out last week, since Christian Gonzalez, the 170 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: cornerback has returned three and oh number nine, number nine. 171 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: The Steelers listen, they don't turn it over and they 172 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: take it away. That does count as a good trait. 173 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: They're taking the football away now. They're not facing great quarterbacks, 174 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: but their only loss came to the Seahawks, a team 175 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: that is better. They're the second least penalized team and 176 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: they have a receiving corps and a tight end core 177 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: that looks like an NBA front line that looks like 178 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks. Everybody's six six and up, so they 179 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: are using some height advantages, some size advantages. They don't 180 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: throw it down the field, but it's working. Pittsburgh at nine, 181 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: number eight. I like the Colts. I think they have 182 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: the second best offensive line in football to Detroit, fewest 183 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: sacks allowed in the NFL Indianapolis. They are scoring on 184 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: sixty two and a half percent of their drives. They 185 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: also should have beaten the Rams. They have the number 186 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: one scoring offense leaves the NFL in first downs again, 187 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: Warren the rookie Pittman, Jonathan Taylor, a top two or 188 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: three offensive line. Daniel Jones this year, all you need 189 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:31,239 Speaker 1: to know he's completing over seventy one percent of his throws. 190 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: I think they have a ceiling. I don't think they're 191 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: a conference championship team yet. They may be this weekend 192 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: if they beat the Chargers, I may reassess. But I 193 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: have the Colts at number eight, number seven, Green Bay. 194 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: They're young and can't figure out how to put away 195 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: inferior teams, but all three wins have come by thirteen 196 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: plus points. I like Jordan Love He's more far than 197 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. He could get a little careless, but they're 198 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: the best third down offense in the NFL well, and 199 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: you can't run on them. They're the opposite of the Bills. 200 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: You can't run on them. So they're doing a little 201 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: bit of takeaway this year, which they haven't historically done. 202 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: Crafts an unbelievable tight end. I like this team a lot. 203 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: They're very young, which concerns me. The quarterbacks, the receivers, 204 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: the tight end really young. But Jeff Hafley's got that defense, 205 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: can't run on it, and they're taking it away. Green 206 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: Bay at seven, number six, Well, Seattle was my surprise 207 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: pick in the NFL this year. New England and Seattle. 208 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: They lead the NFL in yards per play. That is 209 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: a huge stat and if you watch them, jsn is 210 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: absolutely become a number one ride receiver in this league. 211 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, according to PFF, is the highest rated quarterback 212 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think Baker would be my MVP. 213 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: But they can run it. They can get you over 214 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: the top, they throw to their tight ends. They are 215 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: young and athletic defensively and lead the league in yards 216 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: per play at Vegas loves that number. 217 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: Number five. 218 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: Philadelphia thirtieth ranked offense. I mean, it's pretty simple. When 219 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts throws the ball thirty three times plus they're 220 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: not good. When he throws at twenty five times, they win. 221 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: I do think they're eventually gonna to some degree right 222 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: the ship. But they've been out gained in every game 223 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: this season, and they have had three or four of 224 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: the worst halfs in the league thirty punts this year. 225 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: Only Cleveland the Bengals have more. So their personnel puts 226 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: them at five, but I'm not sure they're five. Let's 227 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: see him play Minnesota. Let's see Minnesota off of Bibe 228 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: hosting Philadelphia. I may knock him out of the top 229 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,479 Speaker 1: ten like I've done Buffalo. 230 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: Number four. 231 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: I think Detroit's good. I just think Kansas City is 232 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: separated from the league. Four games with thirty four plus points, 233 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: best offensive line. They're doing something that the Lions haven't done. 234 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: And I said this last week. A lot of sacks, 235 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: a lot of takeaways. They have the hardest remaining schedule. Again, 236 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: this is a really good football team. What Kansas City 237 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: did to them, nobody else in the league, in my opinion, could. 238 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: In fact, they play Tampa this week and I think 239 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: Detroit's gonna win that game, and maybe comfortably. Detroit at four. 240 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 2: Number three, Colin, what. 241 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: Are you doing putting Sean Payton at Denver at three? 242 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: Do you know? 243 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: They are the best in the league at protecting their 244 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: quarterback and the best in the league at getting after yours. 245 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: I think they're one of the few teams that actually 246 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: can make Kansas City a little uncomfortable high altitude for 247 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: home games. I like their weapons. I don't think bo 248 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: Nicks is playing particularly well, but they you can't get 249 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: to bo Nicks and he's at I think he should 250 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: run more. You can't get to him, and they get 251 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: after your quarterback. So they have the number one ranked 252 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: offensive line, best third down defense, best red zone defense. 253 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: They don't have to be great at quarterback. They can 254 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: play poorly and win like this past week. I have 255 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: them at three number two. Tampa's five and one. They 256 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: could also be two and four, but Baker Mayfield would 257 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: be my MVP. They are playing without their number one receiver, 258 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: their number two receiver, their number three receiver, their number 259 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: four receiver. They're going to a D two guy in 260 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: Tesz Johnson, no Bucky Irving. Baker Mayfield has accounted for 261 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: seventeen hundred yards. Only Mahomes is accounted for more. I 262 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: think they're resilient. I think they're tough, and they're doing it. 263 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: I've always liked their GM. They are doing it right 264 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: now with backups. I think Tampa's two number one, but 265 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it's particularly close. I think Kansas City 266 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: is with Rashi Rice coming back, he's not going to 267 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: get thirteen targets in his first week back. He'll probably 268 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: get four to six. But Hollywood Brown, Juju Smith, Travis Worthy, 269 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: o line, I didn't even have their left tackle. This 270 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: is a good football team, suffocating defensively. I said when 271 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: they beat the Ravens. I don't want to hear about injuries. 272 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: They physically stopped Lamar. Lamar was completely not only in 273 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: his head. He could didn't have any space. So next 274 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: to the Colts, they have the second most efficient offense. 275 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: They're not giving the ball away. I mean to play. 276 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: Detroit did not have a penalty, not have a turnover 277 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: in one punt. Detroit's good, really good. That's why I 278 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: only dropped him to four. This is my Herd hierarchy. 279 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 280 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: at noon Eastern non a Empacific. 281 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: He hos a podcast every day, the Athletic Football Show. 282 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: His name is Robert May's Chicago based, and he was 283 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: so good last time. We're like, all right, let's just 284 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: rebook him. It's like the restaurant, you like, just bring 285 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: it back. Let's go again. So I said earlier today, 286 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: I said what Ben Johnson essentially did. He just got 287 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: rid of the ridiculous They can now score in the 288 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: first quarter. They don't on Hail Mary's. The clock doesn't 289 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: run out. They run the ball and don't turn it over. 290 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: It's not wizardry to me. Last night and the week 291 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: before was like you know, the giveaway takeaway thing. They 292 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: figured out a little bit and it's just fundamentally more 293 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: sound football. It's not Andy Reid play design. To me, 294 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: what do you see? 295 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 4: I think there's some of that coming. What's more encouraging 296 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 4: to me is that when you watch the offense last year, 297 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: understand Shane Waldron, none of it made sense. The ways 298 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 4: that they were using the individual skill position players is 299 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 4: the best example of this. They're using Keenan Allen on 300 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 4: vertical routes and they're using roma dunes and all these 301 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: change of direction ways. It's like, what is your personnel 302 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 4: do well? And just put them in those positions and 303 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: so they have checked that box. The run game structure 304 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 4: looks good. I think some of the details have been 305 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: off over the first month, all the penalties, the fact 306 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: that you're missing like little assignments here and there. But 307 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: the overall plan feels like it's well conceived. Yes, you 308 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: feel the plan and you can understand what they're trying 309 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: to accomplish. There's intention behind it, and that for somebody 310 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 4: who watches this team every week for a long time, 311 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: it's a nice change of plas. 312 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we said, when your son's been getting d's. 313 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: You're not going to argue over a B minus. I 314 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: thought it was kind of a B minus performance. 315 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: I think that's right. And I was joking with a 316 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 4: friend earlier this week. All I want is to be 317 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: like the sixteenth best offense in a leak. I don't 318 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 4: understand why that's a huge ask, Like I feel like 319 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 4: it's a reasonable thing to want, and it seems like 320 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 4: we're trending in that direction. 321 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Caleb's funny, like he's got Relationships are hard, 322 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, like Harbaugh and Herbert was easy because Justin's 323 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: like the nicest kid ever. It's ego less, and Jim 324 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: is almost as his age is almost parental. But Ben 325 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: is young and ascending and this is his first big job, 326 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: and Caleb had a bad rookie year. I'm gonna argue 327 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: this is not as easy as we all think it 328 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: is between coach and star quarterback. 329 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 4: I think that's right. I mean the word that was 330 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 4: used to me when I was there at House Hall 331 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 4: before the season and I was asking about their relationship, 332 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: there was one word that somebody said to me. It's intense. 333 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 4: It is intense between them, but not in a bad way. 334 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 4: Intense where you feel growth, where the tension can be healthy. 335 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 4: And I think after his rookie year, Caleb needed that 336 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 4: he needed a little bit more structure. He needed somebody 337 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 4: to push him. And by all accounts, that's exactly what 338 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 4: it has felt like so far. And I think you're 339 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: starting to see their returns on that. 340 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: So I use the example earlier of Mark Jackson and 341 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr. Mark Jackson was more than capable. They were 342 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: winning games, but you had this transformational talent in Steph Curry, 343 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: and you needed this ecosystem that was kind of impenetrable 344 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: that was unique. Draymond was a small ball, became a thing. 345 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: You had Klay Thompson, and all of a sudden you 346 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: look up and they weren't maybe as good initially defensively, 347 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: but it did make sense in a division. Now was 348 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, and then Andy Reid and then Mike vrabel 349 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: is gaining on you and Jim Harbaugh. They're iconic guys 350 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: in the East. And I kind of look at Sean 351 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: McDermott as a really great SUPERVI that's not crazy creative, 352 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: and I wonder, I wonder if Josh Allen now has 353 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: a little self doubt losing to Young New England, losing 354 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: to Atlanta. I mean, Michael Pennix looked really comfortable last 355 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: night doing kind of whatever he wanted to. I don't know. 356 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think did Josh and McDermott get 357 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: along really well? 358 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 4: I think that my biggest frustration with the Bills right 359 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 4: now is that there was a version of the Bills 360 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: when Josh Allen was ascending. They're very specific on offense, 361 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: They're very spread out. They used a lot of college concepts. 362 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 4: Their run game was very bad, and at a certain point, 363 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: I think that fed into Josh's worst impulses. There was 364 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: no calming force on offense, and when Joe Brady took over, 365 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 4: they developed this really downhill run game that they could 366 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 4: rely on. And now they have this flexibility where if 367 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 4: we need to throw the ball forty times, we can, 368 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 4: If we need to run the ball forty times, we can. 369 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 4: That evolution has not happened on defense. All they're doing 370 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: now is they're tinkering within the same world in which 371 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 4: they've always existed, and I think that's where you're seeing 372 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 4: some of the limitations, and ultimately that does fall on 373 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: the coach. This on that side of the ball is 374 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 4: his vision. 375 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: You can't stop the run. 376 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 4: They can't because of the way they're built. If you 377 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 4: look at the types of players that they prioritize on 378 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: the in the back seven, it's undersized guys who move 379 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: well and are smirt right. They're trying to recreate Mike Apart, 380 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: mikeah Hyde and Jordan Poyer in the back end because 381 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: they want to do all this disguise, and they still 382 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 4: disguise coverages more than any team in the league. Well, 383 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 4: all offenses are doing is saying, you can do all 384 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 4: that funky stuff on the back end you want to, 385 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: We're going to bludgeon you up front this entire game. 386 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 4: And it's so funny that the Bill's offense figured that out. 387 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: We're going to be the dominant, We're going to be 388 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 4: the enforcers. 389 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: Now. 390 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: The Bill's defense has never gotten there, and I think 391 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: you're seeing how that's holding them back right now. 392 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: So I was saying, Sean Payton texts me over the 393 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: last year about bow Nicks and it was a good 394 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: fit and it's got Drew Brees's composition to it right, 395 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: But Bo's not a great beat ball thrower so far. 396 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: And Mims Franklin and Sutton can all be deep ball 397 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: receivers and Bo misses it badly, and Sean likes that. 398 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: He wants that, you know, I also I don't think 399 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: he wants to run Bonnicks that much, because you know, 400 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: most coaches don't. It feels like to me, this roster 401 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: is really stacked. It's got a lot of long, twitchy 402 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: athletes and they just it's all underneath stuff Like it 403 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: feels to me that sean body language last week in 404 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: London felt frustrated. To me, Sean looked frustrated. 405 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 4: It's interesting that you talked to him, because when he 406 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 4: has talked about Bonnicks over the last year, anybody who 407 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 4: will listen, it seems like he's willing to tell them 408 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: I believe in this guy, like I think this guy 409 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 4: can be a winning quarterback. But then you watch how 410 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 4: they approached the offense last week on third and four, 411 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 4: third and five, these really high leverage moments, and it's 412 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 4: all screens all the time, and so he's saying one thing, 413 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 4: and then the construction and the decision making is another 414 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: thing about the quarterback, And so I wonder how much 415 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 4: does he actually believe in him if he's not going 416 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 4: to let him drop back to pass on third and 417 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 4: seven in the biggest moments of a game. 418 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I like Denver's roster. 419 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: I think it's fantastic, undeniably. I mean, the defense top 420 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 4: to bottom might be the best in the league. The 421 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 4: offensive line is great. I think you're seeing some of 422 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 4: the limitations that bo had last year continue to crop 423 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 4: up again this year, and it's a little bit disappointing. 424 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: You hope that there would be some gains in those areas, 425 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: but some of the stuff that's holding them back now 426 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 4: some of the same stuff that was holding them back 427 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four. 428 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: So I have defended Aaron Rodgers not much over the 429 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: last seven or eight years. I can remember years ago 430 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: not liking his body language. I pointed out years ago 431 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: he has very few come from behind wins considering how 432 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: great he is, Fewer than Derek Carr, Andy Dalton. Some 433 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: of that is kind of body language changes. If he 434 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: has an early pick. He's a little bit more of 435 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: a Baylor than a Baller in big spots, but he's gifted. 436 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: I actually love this Aaron. So the Steelers have like 437 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: an NBA front line. I mean, Washington Friarmouth DK Metcalf 438 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: like if there was a loose ball, they're getting the rebound, 439 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: and I think he's My take on Robert May's joining 440 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: us for the radio audience. My take on it is 441 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: Aaron is looking at this and like, we're not small 442 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: and twitchy. That's not what we are. We're gonna win 443 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: one on one matchups. We're so damn big. And he's 444 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: not throwing it deep and he's getting crushed by the pffs. 445 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: But when I watch them play, his risks are well 446 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: thought out. It's beautiful back shoulders three to four times 447 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: a game. I know I'm being told he's not rating well, 448 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: but it looks like the right play to me. What 449 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: am I missing? 450 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: I think you're missing the limitations down the road. That's 451 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 4: what I would be most concerned about the way that 452 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 4: he's approaching some of these games. The Minnesota one is 453 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 4: a perfect example. Against that Vikings defense, it's going to 454 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 4: bring a lot of heat at you. They play a 455 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: lot of very soft zone coverage. If you're getting the 456 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 4: ball out very quickly, that's the way to attack them. 457 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 4: But I think ultimately these guys who have super super 458 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: low time to throws Joe Burrow comes to mind when 459 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 4: the best version of Joe Burrow that we've ever seen 460 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: was the Joe Burrow we saw last year when he 461 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 4: started creating a little bit more deeper into the play. 462 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: You saw some of the pocket movement. Eventually, you're going 463 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: to need to do that against the best defenses in 464 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 4: the league. You can't just hunt these matchups and get 465 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 4: rid of the ball in two and a half seconds. 466 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 4: But it's exactly what he's doing right now, and that's 467 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: what he wants to do. If you look back at 468 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: it last year, he had a very low time to 469 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 4: throw when he's got a slot fade to DeVante Adams 470 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 4: or a one on one slamt Dara Wilson. He does 471 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 4: that very very well. He can still pin the ball 472 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: on guys. But ultimately, when you're playing against the Broncos 473 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 4: defense on Divisional weekend, you're going to need to re 474 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: stuff out and access different parts of the play than 475 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 4: whatever your first immediate one on one opportunity is. And 476 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 4: I still don't think we've seen him do that enough 477 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 4: over the last couple of years. 478 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Haslbeck came on the show yesterday, Matt, and 479 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: he's like, let me tell you, when the first numbers four, 480 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: you want to get rid of the ball quickly. You've 481 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: taken so many hits. He goes, I think it's subconscious, 482 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: you just want the ball out. And I kind of 483 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: defend him based on his history and how many times 484 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: he's been hit. 485 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 4: That's absolutely what I've seen over the last couple of years. 486 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 4: And I think now he's been able to exist in 487 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 4: this box and it's been okay. If you push him 488 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: outside of that, I think that's where things get a 489 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 4: little bit dicey, because I totally agree with Matt. I 490 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: think you can feel him not wanting to sit in 491 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 4: the pocket very long and read stuff out a little 492 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 4: bit deeper into these plays. 493 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: So Baker won a playoff game in Cleveland. Stefanski didn't 494 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: like some of the personality. He was a bit of 495 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: a fire starter, and so they moved on. It's a 496 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: mistake now with Baker. But Baker was never terrible. Sam 497 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: Donald was Sam Donald was regrettable, and so he goes 498 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: to Minnesota and a lot of the compliments was well 499 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: justin Jefferson and Kevin O'Connell. I don't know, did Seattle 500 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: are they surprised Sam's been this good because I think 501 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people felt like, okay, that that was 502 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: a bit of an outlier. Are you surprised? Do you 503 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: think Seattle is he's the number one graded quarterback. Now 504 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: there's a guy that will throw the ball down the 505 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: field in Donald. Are you surprised? 506 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: I'm surprised it's been this good. He had flashes last year. 507 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 4: But I think the combination of the lack of mistakes 508 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 4: plus all the high end plays. We've never seen that 509 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 4: version of Sam Donald before turnover worthy plays, the amount 510 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 4: of sacks that he's taking, all of that stuff. The 511 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 4: volume has beurn turned all the way down and you're 512 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 4: still getting the high end stuff. And so I had 513 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 4: a conversation with Sam last summer that was illuminating to 514 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 4: me just about the ways that he was seeing the 515 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 4: game a little bit deeper in his career, and I 516 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 4: think when he was in San Francisco and he finally 517 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: was in an offensive system where the intention of what 518 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 4: they were trying to accomplish was articulated to him. Why 519 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 4: are you doing this as a quarterback? Why should you 520 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 4: be seeing it this way? I think that's carried over 521 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 4: over the last couple of years and It's funny. We've 522 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 4: seen this with Baker, with Sam, with Gino, to an extent, 523 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, these guys with their second act that have 524 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 4: made the most of it. You see this convergence of 525 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 4: physical talent and mental maturity, and that happens for quarterbacks 526 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 4: at twenty seven, twenty. 527 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: Eight years old humans. Yeah, exactly. 528 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 4: And I think so many athletes we think, oh, they're 529 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 4: peaking at twenty three, that's what they're going to be. 530 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 4: Quarterbacks aren't like that, right. Your prime comes in your 531 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 4: late twenties, and so for somebody as talented as Sam Darnold, 532 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 4: he needed another opportunity to make good on it. But 533 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 4: that convergence of those two things I don't think is 534 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: more pronounced for any player in the league than it 535 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 4: has been for Sam. So. 536 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: I like Drake May out of college. I loved Vrabel 537 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: as a coach. They were my pick to double the 538 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: win total, and some of it was because I thought 539 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: Miami and the Jets were fairly lifeless, hapless. Drake May 540 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: is better faster than I thought, right, Like, what the 541 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: coverage is? I mean, he had a really bad pick 542 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: in the end zone against Pittsburgh, and you're like, Okay, 543 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: that's just it's okay. I defended him when they lost 544 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: to the Raiders, Robert, I said, okay, they've got nine 545 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: news free agent starters, six prookies, Like this is like 546 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: an NIL portal gone wrong. In college, I way too 547 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: many guys, second, third, fourth week. So I kind of 548 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: gave him a pass. I kept saying, be patient. I 549 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: didn't think he was this good like I thought. I'm 550 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: not sure I ever thought seventy five percent completion percentage, Like, 551 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: let's explain it. 552 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 4: I think that's a really good way to look at it. 553 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 4: To me, it's a combination of three things. Lack of mistakes, 554 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 4: like truly boneheaded mistakes. You just picked out one. That's 555 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: about all there's been. You know, there haven't been that many. 556 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 4: And in college and even as a rookie, there are 557 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: more of those flubs mentally for him that I think 558 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 4: you want to see. And he's really really toning that down. 559 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 4: And then there's a combination of high floor plays and 560 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 4: high ceiling plays, what he can do with his legs 561 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 4: and as a scrambler, all the easy completions that he's taking. 562 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: That's what's so encouraging and exciting to me is that 563 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 4: those completions that are there underneath checking the ball down. 564 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 4: He's doing all of that stuff at a really competent 565 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: level early on, and he is so talented and so aggressive, 566 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 4: the high end stuff is going to come. That was 567 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 4: never a question. It was all about the steady aspects 568 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: of his play in the offense. And I think you 569 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 4: seeing all that stuff come together at the exact same time, 570 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 4: and I'm one hundred percent with you. He has been 571 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: so much better, so much faster than even the most 572 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: optimistic Drake May believers probably would have thought. 573 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, I I we can end it 574 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: on this and chew on this a little bit. Maybe 575 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: because I like Brian Dable, so even when the Giants 576 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: came into this season, I wasn't sure about the GM Shane, 577 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: but I like Brian. I like their left tackle and 578 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: healthy neighbors Scataboo I thought would be interesting, and their 579 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: defensive front's excellent. The Jets have players, and there's there 580 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: is a Freddie Kitchens aspect to Aaron Glenn where I'm like, wow, 581 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: nothing's good and I and I do wonder because you know, 582 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: the Jets will tell people privately who criticize them on Sala. 583 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: We gave him multiple years. I mean the Aerin thing 584 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: is I mean, if I was a college quarterback and 585 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: the Jets had the number one pick, like I, I 586 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: think that if I got the right nil number, I 587 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: may stay with my college program. What's too soon to 588 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: pull the plug with a Jets like Robert? Nothing works. 589 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: The play calling was weird. It feels Freddy Kitchens. Where 590 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: he may be a good play caller. Some guys are 591 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: just vice presidents if that is fine, I mean, what's 592 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: happening there? 593 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: It's so strange. The offense. I think we all could 594 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 4: predict that they might have struggled this year. Right Justin 595 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 4: Fields has been an afterthought quarterback. He's been a backup quarterback. 596 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 4: We're not going to see this resurgence with all these 597 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 4: guys getting another opportunity. The passing game with him and 598 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 4: the receivers that they have on that roster was always 599 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 4: going to be limited, and I think we've realized those limitations. 600 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 4: What's most discouraging to me is the fact that their defense, 601 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 4: too often over the first six games has just looked lost. 602 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 4: Like you look at what some of their second and 603 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: third level defenders are doing in space, their eyes against 604 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 4: the run, These things that should be the strongest parts 605 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 4: of your team with a defensive minded head coach. Coaching 606 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 4: to me as simple in the NFL, I think we 607 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 4: based coaching. We evaluate them. Are you getting the most 608 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 4: out of your players what you're supposed to be good at? 609 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 4: Are you good at those things? Are you getting returns 610 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 4: on those things? And for the Jets specifically, that hasn't 611 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 4: happened on defense, and I think that's where it gets 612 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 4: really worrying. 613 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's circle back one to the Bears. I think 614 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: it was interesting last night. They put a stat up 615 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: it was just the Bears scored twenty seven first quarter 616 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: points and they're at thirty seven. Now, it's remarkable. Now, 617 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: they did get Drew Dolmon, they got Toony Jonah Jackson. 618 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: They were going to be better. And it is interesting 619 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: that the cohesion on the ole line takes time because 620 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: starters don't play in the preseason, so it was pretty 621 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: rough the first two weeks. You could see the dominance 622 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: on the ole line last night, and you start looking 623 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: at their schedule and they're three and two. Of course 624 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: again they could be they could be two and three 625 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: or one and four. I mean the Raiders game. It's 626 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: a block kick, but they're getting better by the week. 627 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: I looked at their offensive skilled people and the whole lineup, 628 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: Drew Dolmen's elite Toony's elite. Dundee's a nice young player, 629 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: DJ Moore's talented, DeAndre Schut's always been capable. Tight ends 630 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: are at least average. I don't know if the coaching 631 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: I thought say this. I felt the Bears last night. 632 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: I thought skill and coaching, they can match up with 633 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: everybody except the Chiefs. And is that just hyperbolic and nonsense. 634 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: I actually like their personnel and offense a lot. 635 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 4: I don't think that's unreasonable at all, and I think 636 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 4: you're starting to see it come together. I think their 637 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 4: by came at the exact right moment. When you look 638 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 4: at the way they handled training camp. It wasn't just 639 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 4: that those guys didn't play in the preseason. They're swapping 640 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 4: out left tackles the entire way through training camp. They 641 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 4: didn't know who the left tackle was going to be 642 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 4: until the season started, and so now they settle in 643 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 4: with THEO Benette left tackle. And the way that they 644 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 4: handled installing the offense in camp, they said this openly 645 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 4: they threw everything at all of those guys. We're going 646 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 4: to figure out over this month what are we good 647 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 4: at and what are we not And that leaves you 648 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 4: not a lot of time to hone the things that 649 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 4: you're good at. And so thereby coming five weeks into 650 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 4: the season is perfect because you get to take a 651 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 4: step back, You get to take a breath and say, Okay, 652 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 4: now that we have all this information, let's start to 653 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 4: really zero in on the stuff we can be good 654 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 4: at with the line that we feel comfortable with. With 655 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 4: Darnold Wright getting back, now you're starting to see that process. 656 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 4: I think that now they're really starting to find tune 657 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 4: things they couldn't find tune in August. 658 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: I watched the Bills last night, Rashi Rice is coming back, 659 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: and I watched the Explosive Chiefs on Sunday. And my take, Isy, 660 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: you're wasting Josh Allen's years. I don't care if it's 661 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley. I don't know if it's Dj Moore trade deadline. 662 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: Doesn't Buffalo have to do something on the perimeter. 663 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 4: I honestly think they could do something at a perimeter on 664 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 4: the other side of the ball, like I think corner 665 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 4: and defensive back, and just I would be more interested 666 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 4: in beefing up the defense than I think I would 667 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 4: be with the pass catchers, because for the most part, 668 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 4: I think that Josh Allen and a good offensive line 669 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 4: is a route to in the offense. I think they'll 670 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: get there on that side of the ball. I'd be 671 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 4: looking at my defensive personnel, whether it's safety, linebacker, and 672 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 4: just the lack of size physicality that they have. If 673 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 4: I was Brandon Bean, I think that is what would 674 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 4: be keeping me up at night right now. 675 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: Robert May's The Athletic Football Show, great podcast. Do it 676 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: every day so it's consistent. Really appreciate you stopping by 677 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: any time. 678 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 4: I really appreciate it. Thank you. 679 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 680 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 3: and newon Easter nine. Em Pacific. Let's blaze it up 681 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: right up. It's Collins Blazon fuck Dolphins at Browns. 682 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: High like Cleveland at home minus two and a half. 683 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: There's an argument when Cleveland's at home. They have the 684 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: best defense in the NFL. PFF has it as the 685 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: highest graded defense. You cannot run on this team and 686 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: the wins are going to be over forty miles an hour, 687 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: the gusts are and it's going to be rainy. Dylan Gabriel, 688 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: He'll be fine. They're not going to ask much. The 689 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: Dolphins only win this year came up by win over 690 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: the Jets. 691 00:34:59,520 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: Barely. 692 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: They have been out gained in five or six games. 693 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: They have culture issues, the quarterback calling out the coach, 694 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: and they give up the second most yards per play 695 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: in the league. You're talking about an elite defense at 696 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: home against the Dolphins defense that is atrocious, and generally, 697 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 1: if your defense is bad, it's worse on the road. 698 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: I think it's mostly low scoring, sloppy. I trust Cleveland's 699 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: defense to carry the day, maybe get a turnover in 700 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: points twenty four to seventeen. Browns win and cover giant, 701 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: said Broncos. I like Denver to win and win big. 702 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: If you know Jackson Dart yards per play is behind 703 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson this year, and Russell Wilson got bench. This 704 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: defense is the best in the league, best third down defense, 705 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: best red zone defense, leaves the NFL in sacks. Okay, 706 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 1: they're two to zero at home, both comfortably and Jackson Dart. 707 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: Let's not kid ourselves. Russell Wilson had fewer giveaways and 708 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: average more yards per play. Jackson Dart's the better story. 709 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: He's got good energy, but against this defense in Denver, 710 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: forget about it. The Broncos defense at home this year 711 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: is unbelievable, relentless pressure. And again I think the Giants 712 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: are a really fun story, but they're owing three on 713 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: the road this season. I'm gonna take Denver to win 714 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: twenty eight to twenty. Cover the spread. Don't think it'll 715 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: feel this. 716 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: Close, Commander said, Cowboys. 717 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: Take the over fifty four and a half. I don't 718 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: care If Terry mcclaurin plays opposing quarterbacks against the Cowboys 719 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: and Commanders are completing sixty eight percent of their throws 720 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: in a passer rating almost one to ten, both quarterbacks 721 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: are gonna eat. The Commanders have scored twenty four points 722 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: plus in four straight games, but their run defense has 723 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: gotten worse with injuries and their secondary the mess Ceedee 724 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: Lambs back for the Cowboys, but the problem is they 725 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: allow the most big plays in the NFL. With or 726 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: without Terry McLaurin, I think you're gonna get wild scoring. 727 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: The Cowboys defense this season has lasting virtually everything, and 728 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: now Washington's has progressively gotten worse over the last three weeks. 729 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: I don't need Terry McLaurin. That's not the issue. Remember 730 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: when Washington scored points against Chicago and turned it over 731 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: three times. They didn't play a clean game and they 732 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: scored points. I'm taking the over. Commanders win. That's not 733 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: my play. Thirty twenty seven. Take the over fifty four 734 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: and a half points, Packer said Cardinals. I think green 735 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: Bay wins. I'm taking the seven. It's moved up to 736 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: seven Arizona. It doesn't matter if Jacoby Brissett or Kyler 737 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: Murray play. Kyler Murray foot injury, may play. Last week, 738 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: Kobe Brisett had nine big plays against the Colts Okay, 739 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: and Green Bay has yet to win a road game. 740 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: They're very young, they're a little banged up on offense. 741 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: Listen Arizona. All six of their games this year, most 742 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL have been one score game. They've let 743 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of five of their six games, 744 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: and they're always feisty at home. And green Bay is 745 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: not taking the ball away this year. The Arizona offense, 746 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: green Bay is going to have to prepare for Kyler 747 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: Murray and Jacoby Brissett. I think that's a disadvantage. I'm 748 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: going to take Green Bay to win close. Seven points 749 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: is too many. Twenty eight to twenty four. Feisty Arizona 750 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 1: with either quarterback at home keeps it close. 751 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 2: Buccaneers at Lions one. 752 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: Of my favorite bets of the weekend. I like the 753 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: Lions to win and cover. First of all, the Lions 754 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: are not only nine and two at home. In the 755 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: last couple of years, they averaged thirty seven points a 756 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: game at home. They're a different offense, very good. Jared 757 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: Goff leads the NFL in completion percentage that chiefs game. 758 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: Kansas City's the best team in the league, probably by 759 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: a touchdown. When this team gets home, they are lethal 760 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: and their defense is taking the ball away this year 761 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: top five in the league in Baker Mayfield has a 762 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: lot of, as j Max told you the last couple 763 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: of weeks, turnover worthy plays. So the Bucks have trailed 764 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: in four their in the fourth quarter in five of 765 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: their six games. Twenty fourth in scoring defense, They're missing 766 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: a couple of corners. So a team that is really 767 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: stacked on offense comes home after an ugly loss. They 768 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: face a Tampa team that is winning close but trailing 769 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 1: in all their games, finally their separation. I don't think 770 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: it's a great Sunday for Baker in the law. Bucks 771 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: Lions win it, Lions cover twenty eight to twenty one. 772 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: A game I strongly considered was the Colts beating take 773 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: the points with the Colts over the Chargers, but reportedly 774 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and Joe All are going to play for 775 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: the Chargers, so I'm not betting against Harball if he's 776 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: got his starting left tackle and his best pass rusher. 777 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: So again, I'll take the in an ugly game with 778 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: horrendous weather against the Miami team that's got cultural issues 779 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: right now and more. I'm gonna take the Broncos comfortably 780 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 1: the over in the Cowboys Commander's Wild shootout. Green Baya 781 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: win but look ugly, Cardinals cover, and I think the Lions. 782 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 1: I think the Bucks have been a really fun team 783 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: to watch, but man, coming off an ugly loss Detroit 784 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: at home, I'm going to take the win and the 785 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: cover