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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the offseason. Officially, I'm channing the room,

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Speaker 1: joined by Josh Reddick and Tyler Stafford. After what I

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Speaker 1: think was probably the best World series I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Granted I'm only I'm only thirty two years old. I

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Speaker 1: haven't I've been sentient for about twenty of these world series,

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Speaker 1: so I don't go back as far as some people.

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Speaker 1: But that was incredible stuff from and it wasn't I mean,

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Speaker 1: Game seven was one of the five best baseball games

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. But I think what made this World

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Speaker 1: series great, guys, was that all of the other games

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Speaker 1: were good too. It wasn't six duds and then Game

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Speaker 1: seven was an epic. It was all of those games

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Speaker 1: were intriguing, even the blowouts, even Game one. You know,

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Speaker 1: you had Addison Barger hit the first pinch hit Grand

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Speaker 1: Slam in World series history. You had history, you had drama,

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Speaker 1: you had intrigued, you had people doing things just that

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Speaker 1: have never been seen before. It was an incredible world

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Speaker 1: series to watch, maybe regardless of where your allegiances were

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Speaker 1: and who you wanted to win. It was an incredible

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Speaker 1: seven games of baseball.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's be honest, if they're listening, we all knew

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Speaker 2: who wanted to win, right, Yeah, yeah, what is the that?

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Speaker 2: But man, you weren't a kid. That was a fantastic

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Speaker 2: seven games. Everything was so intriguing and so much fun.

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Speaker 2: You saw, you know, like you said, history and guys

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Speaker 2: like you know, people are going to overlook Ernie Clement

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Speaker 2: did this postseason, Like you've got the most hits in

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Speaker 2: playoff history now for a single postseason, So like that's

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Speaker 2: being completely overshadowed by how great this series really was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you had our boys springer pretty much. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure we're waiting on an oblique strain announcement any day now.

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Speaker 1: Discomfort you mean I can't believe he played right, I mean, hey, and.

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Speaker 2: Trap it up. Is the season, man, get your little

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Speaker 2: needle in hot pack, little hot pack, swing that thing

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Speaker 2: off the ball, and you got time to heal.

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Speaker 3: It'll take that thing off the bottle.

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Speaker 2: I mean, a grade two takes four to six, a

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Speaker 2: full grade three takes probably six to eight.

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Speaker 2: That's playoffs even time to come back from an oblique injury.

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Speaker 3: I just couldn't believe that he I mean, that's got

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Speaker 3: hurt so bad. I mean, I know it's a World Series,

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Speaker 3: but that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well, Tyler, there's this thing called turtle up taking the

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Speaker 2: postseason that pretty much makes you feel like Superman. So

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Speaker 2: he probably didn't feel anything until about twelve thirty one

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Speaker 1: And listening to John Schneider, the Blue Jays manager, talk

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Speaker 1: after the oblique strand in the days after, like he

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Speaker 1: made it sound like that was not the only thing

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Speaker 1: George Springer was playing through. It sounds like George had

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Speaker 1: So to watch him do that battle through all that

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Speaker 1: it impact him after the strain. When he when he

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Speaker 1: got to play in Game six, in Game seven, I thought,

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, one of the things that was

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Speaker 1: payroll gaps and the payroll problems in the league. I

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Speaker 1: think this showed the complete opposite. Like the Dodgers, Yes,

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Speaker 1: they spent an insane amount of money. They have a

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Speaker 1: get it, they're playing it. They're on a different level.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, they were two outs from losing the

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Speaker 1: took a heroic effort by guys that are not in

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Speaker 1: that tax bracket, like Miguel Rojas is not making seven

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Speaker 1: million dollars. But yeah, but I think it just goes

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Speaker 1: to show you, like the Blue Jays, it's not as

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Speaker 2: God like this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think even though the Dodgers won the World Series,

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Speaker 3: Do it well. And baseball is unique in that, if

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Speaker 3: we're being objective, the best way to measure who the

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Speaker 3: has the most wins is the best team. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's how baseball's set up to be. But we're Americans

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Speaker 3: and we don't play that way. The only thing that

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Speaker 3: you just have to get in. And then you can

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Speaker 3: have Ernie Clement set a playoff record for hits, right,

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Speaker 3: or you can have I mean one pitcher, like we

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Speaker 3: And and so I agree with you. I think baseball

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any scenario where the Dodgers missed

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously that that can happen. But they're they're

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Speaker 3: a billion dollars to get in and then see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Because look, this isn't the first year the Dodgers have

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Speaker 3: been running this payroll. They've been doing it for a

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Speaker 3: I mean they've they've you know, it's not like they've

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Speaker 2: They did, it would matter you did they won five

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Speaker 5: Ever, so like, if you have the money to spend it,

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Speaker 5: why wouldn't you know, why wouldn't you can't use that

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Speaker 5: and it's showing what owners should be doing all across

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Speaker 3: Well, and where the money I think really, like I said,

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Speaker 3: you have a core of your team. But what the

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Speaker 3: You know, Will Smith obviously had a huge World Series

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Speaker 3: six straight World Series. But you know, the Dodgers do

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Speaker 3: that really well. So the money of the infrastructure, yeah,

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Speaker 3: is this a safe space for me to discuss how

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Speaker 3: I watched some of these games. So Game three, for

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Speaker 3: three minutes. I watched that whole game and games Game seven.

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Speaker 3: My kids spent the night, well, the girls spent the

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Speaker 3: And because they're both blue teams. It took me like

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Speaker 3: So it took me a second to figure out what happened. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a better portrait of what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about than Migul Rojas hit that homer. Shoheo Tani

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Speaker 1: really is. It's incredible. I have a I have a

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Speaker 1: mildly lukewarm take that I think both of you are

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Speaker 1: and the Alds prompted my thinking, I'm perfectly fine with

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Speaker 3: In the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man like bad take I I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like a I mean,

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Speaker 1: did you enjoy that? Did you enjoy watching like all

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Speaker 1: eighteen innings of that? It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: You can't. You can't change the rules, you know, because

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Speaker 3: you you wanted to end sooner. The whole point is

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Speaker 3: that you got to figure out who wins that game.

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Speaker 2: YEP. I mean, I'm completely but I don't think we

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Speaker 2: switched anything. I don't like it a regular season. I

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Speaker 3: I think they should I think it should be no

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Speaker 3: afternoon game goes sixteen. I get that, But I like

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Speaker 2: No, I like when we've always talked about as players.

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Speaker 2: Once you get to like the eleventh or twelve, get

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Speaker 2: your get one guy, Homer Derby, Ceilaer.

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Speaker 1: I'm for that home number you get, you bring.

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Speaker 2: Out the VP thrower, you get ten swings, winner, take it.

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Speaker 2: Can't be this guy, Like you can't pick the same

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Speaker 1: So, Tyler, when we were doing this show in spring training,

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Speaker 3: Can you give us a quick refresher on what qualifies

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Speaker 3: But what what is PPI? Why do the astros get this?

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Speaker 3: How did that impact Cam Smith?

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Speaker 1: Okay, to become PPI eligible, you have it's based on

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Speaker 2: Because for those who don't know, you could be excited

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Speaker 7: So it all depends on you want them to be good,

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Speaker 2: It could be a complete bust. It doesn't you know,

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Speaker 3: But hopefully this is the one that I would suggest

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Speaker 3: When is the pick is it after? Is it like

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Speaker 1: When yeah, it's it's after, And so they haven't put

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Speaker 1: It should be noted too that this is it's pretty rare.

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Speaker 1: of the reason he made the team was because they

434
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Speaker 1: wanted to try to get the PPI pick. They thought

435
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: he was Rookie of the Year, tight material and certainly

436
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: you saw that in Flashes, but it didn't sustain the

437
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: whole year. But again, it is something that really did

438
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: influence their thinking. And like we said earlier, Cam will

439
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: maintain that PPI eligibility, So if he takes the next

440
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: step next year and finishes in the top three of

441
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 1: MVP voting, then the Ashers will get another pick. And

442
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: as I was talking right there, you know, presuming fromble Valdez,

443
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: you'd say qualifying offer rejects it and something's elsewhere. You

444
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: can chalk that up as another high ish round pick

445
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: for the Astros too. That one would be after the set.

446
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: It would be after the fourth round because they paid

447
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 1: the ashers paid the luxury tax last season. But still,

448
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the more picks and the more chances at

449
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: the dark board, the more throws the dartboards you get,

450
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: the better. So it would be it's going to be

451
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: a very consequential draft in twenty twenty six for the

452
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Speaker 1: Astros especially. You know, if the Valdez qualifying off for

453
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: pick comes to fruition. As we start seeing all these

454
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: awards come out, as we you know, we put a

455
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: bowl on the World Series, it means that the off

456
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: season's here. It means that the off season is starting

457
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: in earnest Josh, as to kind of kick it off,

458
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 1: what would be your first order, aside from hiring coaches

459
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Speaker 1: and filling out the coaching staff, which I'm told they're

460
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 1: in the finalist stage for at least a couple of

461
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: those jobs. I don't have any names. If I had names,

462
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: I would give them to you guys, But don't have names.

463
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: But they're making progress on the coaching staff. But aside

464
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: from filling out the coaching staff, Josh, what is your

465
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: first order of business as the off season begins. If

466
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Speaker 1: you're Dana Brown.

467
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: Starting pitcher, yep, hm, starting pitcher, get somebody signed. There's

468
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: plenty of guys out there. I see Michael King's name

469
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: throwing around a lot, not going to be over expensive

470
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: and still could be very beneficial to the ball club

471
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: just throwing that name out there. But any starting pitch

472
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 2: that you can get out there early and get it

473
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: done fast be the one that kind of makes that

474
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: first hurdle, because you know, if you're on that first

475
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: team and you're like that third or fourth team that

476
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: gets one and two pitchers are off the board and

477
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: then the other guy start kind of trying to match

478
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: their price, then it becomes a big negotiation. And one

479
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 2: of the things that got me so quickly Houston was,

480
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: you know, I think we closed on my deal like

481
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: second week in November. It was unreal how quick we

482
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: got ours done, but our negotiations or literally like three

483
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 2: days and it wasn't even far off. So I'd try

484
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: to get something done quickly and fast and kind of

485
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Speaker 2: be the first person that puts their foot through the door.

486
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 3: Chandler, Why is Justin Berlander not in Houston already? What's

487
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 3: going on? It's been way too long.

488
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Speaker 1: I think he I think there's a good chance he

489
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: will be pretty soon. I'm not gonna look, I don't

490
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Speaker 1: think anything.

491
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Speaker 3: They should have announced that as the confetti was falling

492
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: in Toronto. What's happening?

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. I would put the odds at greater

494
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: than fifty percent that it happens. I have I've not

495
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: been told that anything is like tangibly close. But I

496
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: mean you don't really have to have like back room

497
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: sources or anything to hear this, Like I mean Justin

498
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: Verlander when when the Giants came to Houston this year,

499
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 1: like Justin said, like on the rail, like yeah, I'm

500
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: always open to coming back here. I want to come

501
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: back here. He said. He called Jim Crane last year

502
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: when the Giants offered him and said can you match this,

503
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: and at the time said they weren't in a position

504
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: to do that, Like like you don't need like something,

505
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: you don't need to know people to know that. Like

506
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: he has said that, it's very clear that Justin Verlander

507
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: really likes it here. He's he and Jim Crane are

508
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: very good friends. I can imagine that if this does

509
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: get done, it will be a Justin Verlander and Jim

510
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: Crane negotiation. I think, you know, it would be looped in

511
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: at the last minute to just let him know that, hey,

512
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: it's happening. And but I don't think I mean, I

513
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: think a lot of people would look at it as though,

514
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: like here we go again. But I don't think it'd

515
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: be the worst thing in the world world. Justin Verlander

516
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: was excellent in the second half last year. I get it,

517
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: He's forty three years old. There are few people in

518
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: the world that I would doubt less than Justin Burlander.

519
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: I mean, I would until his arm falls off, or

520
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: until he says he's just can't do it anymore. Like

521
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: I'd let him keep one out there. It's not gonna

522
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: be a big money type deal. It's gonna be a

523
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: one year deal. If it happens, I can't imagine him

524
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: getting anything. He'd probably get a little bit less than

525
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: what he just took, which is fifteen million dollars. So

526
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: I'd imagine something in like the one, the one for

527
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: you know, ten to twelve million, Like, I be okay

528
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: with that. But again you do wonder. You wonder though, Josh,

529
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: Like I mean, this dude has defied the aging curve

530
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: and defied logic for so long that like, at what

531
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: point does age a.

532
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Speaker 2: Forty three year old? I would trust it be Justin Bland.

533
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: Look, I've said it forever. When the age thing hits him,

534
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 3: he will know and he will take himself out. Justin

535
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: Verlander has earned the right to say I can still

536
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 3: pitch and get out Let me get out there, and

537
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 3: you just let him do it. And then when it

538
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: when it happens, okay, well we'll work on it from there.

539
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 3: But for right now, whatever you want to do, if

540
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 3: you want to go out there and pitch and you

541
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 3: say you can pitch, I trust that he can do that,

542
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: because again he's a competitor. He knows when he's able

543
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 3: to compete, and if he's not, he's going to say

544
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: it and he'll walk off the mount and that'll be it.

545
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: But until then, go on out there, Stee.

546
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: He can also be that guy if he does fall

547
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: off that thing in the starting role he put him

548
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: in the bullpen. He could if he could take it,

549
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: if he could handle.

550
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: It, Like he's not doing that. He needs wins. That's

551
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: what he's going for.

552
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: He'd be a disgusting closer.

553
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, John smolt John did, yeah, and then he

554
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: could beyond World Series broadcasts forever.

555
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: He would never he's getting the hell out of baseball.

556
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: And I don't know he I think he do well

557
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: on TV.

558
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: He would do I don't think he wants to do why

559
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: Why would I want to say, why would he because

560
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: he's so smart about the game, But I just don't

561
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: think he would want to take the time to do it.

562
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: Well, he's got a he's got a younger sibling that

563
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: loves to be on TV. So maybe they can for

564
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: both of them.

565
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: Oh are they siblings?

566
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: He didn't know.

567
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: I did not know that.

568
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: I will say this, like, if if this does happen,

569
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: if Justin Verlander does come back to Houston, I don't

570
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: think that can be the only thing that they do,

571
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: starting visual wise, because as we we just spent minutes

572
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Speaker 1: discussing like Justin Verlander is not a sure thing. He's

573
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Speaker 1: forty three years old. And while he had like a

574
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: great second half last year, and while he did throw

575
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty, you know it was one hundred

576
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: and fifty, It was like one hundred and thirty innings

577
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: last year, Like they've got a lot of just volume

578
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: of innings to replace. And the thing about Justin Verliner

579
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: that would that would be that would give them comfort

580
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: is something that I think Tyler said, like he may

581
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: not have what he had in twenty nineteen, he may

582
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: not have what he had in twenty twenty two whenyone

583
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: cy young, but he's going to find a way to

584
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: get you outs. Like he knows himself better than anyone,

585
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: Like he knows what he has working when he doesn't

586
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: have working, like he will find a way to get

587
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: you outs. And the Astros rotation as we speak right

588
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: now doesn't have a lot of those guys that just

589
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: don't have that just experience of like if Christian Hobvier

590
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: goes out there and like just doesn't have the hop

591
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: on his fastball that day, like it's hard for him

592
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 1: to get outs, It's hard for him to adjust. Like,

593
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's a very young rotation. It's a very

594
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: young and inexperienced rotation with a high upside behind Hunter Brown.

595
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: So getting someone in there that you know, what if

596
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: Justin Verlander goes out in the first inning of a

597
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: start and is like, oh, man, like, I got nothing

598
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: in the day, but I got to figure out how

599
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: to get this team into the sixth inning. He'll be

600
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: able to do that. And I think that's a value

601
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: that they that you can't put a price on. But

602
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: I do think they would need to do more. They

603
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: would need to do more in terms of getting more

604
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: stability in the rotation because they cannot find themselves where

605
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: they were last year in terms of you know, wanting

606
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: like hoping that things go well, hoping that things They

607
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: can't live on hope, Like hope is not a solution.

608
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: They've got to get actual guys and they can't rely

609
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: on Ronel Blanco and Hayden was Nesky to come back

610
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: and be good. They can't just hope and pray that

611
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: blue Ball and Bryce Mayor and James Hicks or whoever

612
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: you want. You know, Ethan Peco like, those are all good,

613
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: like options.

614
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: Fresh City Territory legend, Nate Pearson.

615
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: Nate Pearson right, like, those are great options to have,

616
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: but they need some they need some certainty, and I

617
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: think Justin Verlanders certainly starts that, but I think they

618
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: would need other editions around them.

619
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they'll they'll have to find that and

620
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: who knows. But yeah, I mean, like you said, what

621
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: they need is, as we said all year, they need

622
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: an adult human who can get five innings every fifth day.

623
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: Like they need a couple of those guys to solidify

624
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: the rotation where you can deal with the you know,

625
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: ups and downs of you know, the the younger guys

626
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: or Hobbier or mccullors or whoever.

627
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: You know.

628
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,239
Speaker 3: You you are allowed to let them go out and

629
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: see if they have it, you know whatever. But you

630
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: can only do that if you know, Hunter Brown's given

631
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: me six and a third and the next day Rylander

632
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: has given me five and two thirds or whatever like that.

633
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: That's the only way you can last a season. You

634
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: can't have four guys in the rotation that could go

635
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: seven but could also get two outs and then you're

636
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: you know, up a creek.

637
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: So on the rotation.

638
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm the number one, you know.

639
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I.

640
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: Assume that he would really like to finish games and

641
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: he just hasn't been allowed to yet. But you know

642
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: that's that's blueball.

643
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: Ah Jesus.

644
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 8: As as we've talked about nothing, as we've talked about

645
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 8: like I really think, like I mean, we've all we're

646
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 8: all adults here, like Fromberveldas is probably not coming back,

647
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 8: Like we can talk, we can start speaking about him

648
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 8: in the past tense.

649
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: Yes, The thing that I really don't think people are

650
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: taking a new account is just the volume of innings

651
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: he threw, and not only the volume of innings, the

652
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: volume of good innings that he threw. Like I understand

653
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: there were the blow ups. I understand he had starts

654
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: on the biggest stage sometimes that winner. I understand he

655
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: could be a roller coaster to watch, But they don't

656
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: make them like him much anymore, just in terms of

657
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: being able to go out there and consistently give you

658
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty innings a season and one hundred

659
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: and eighty good innings, like one hundred eighty innings of

660
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: like sub three five ra ball. Like I said, they

661
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: don't make one guy like that anymore. So maybe, like

662
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: was said in a movie, you have to replace him

663
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: in the aggregate. You have to go get a couple

664
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: guys that can get you to that point. And so

665
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: that's why I think, like, yes, starting pitching is obviously

666
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: has to be their priority to get that figured out.

667
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: It can't just be Verlander. If Verlander does end up

668
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: coming back, it's got to be more of it's got

669
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: to be more around him. They've got to give themselves

670
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: a lot of options, and they've got to give themselves

671
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: a lot of established options. And I think they understand that,

672
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, that's going to be their

673
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: first order of maybe external business. But you know, they've

674
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: got obviously we've talked about, they've got the infield logjam.

675
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to hear Dana Brown talk next week

676
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: at the GM meetings about whether they have discussed what

677
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: they're going to do at second base, whether they think

678
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: Esak Paratus can do that, whether they want to play

679
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: jose Al Tuve there. Like, they've got a lot of

680
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: unanswered questions. They've got a lot of things to figure out.

681
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, go ahead, no, please, no, you go.

682
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, Josh. I assume you've seen Moneyball?

683
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen Moneyball.

684
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: How cool is it to see like a Hollywood movie

685
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: about a place that you lived in? Basically, like, were

686
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: there any shots in there? Was there anything where you

687
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: were like, oh, I know that hallway or right, you know,

688
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: I know exactly what they're cause, Like for me. I

689
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: don't know if you've seen Oh my gosh, what's what

690
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: am I thinking of? What's the Boyhood? The Richard link

691
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 3: Later movie that's shot over like eighteen years or whatever.

692
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 3: They go to a game at minute made at the time,

693
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: it was like a two thousand and five or two

694
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: thousand and six game or something, and I went back

695
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: and looked like what game they were at, But it

696
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: was just cool to be like, oh, there's a movie

697
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: that's like this thing. Did you have any feelings of that?

698
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: Watching Moneyball a little bit? I mean the clubhouse was

699
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: I assume that was a set.

700
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: That house was our side clubhouse. When he like did

701
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: the whole bat throw and hit the speakers and all that.

702
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: That's for real in the c Like that was in

703
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: the clubhouse. They didn't build that.

704
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was that was the home side clubhouse.

705
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: That's bad into where our food room was, Like the

706
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: radio was right there where he hit. So those things

707
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: are cool. I mean the batting cage where like Data

708
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: Justice is like talking to him and saying he's.

709
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: Not for it.

710
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: I think that's the center field cage, which is technically

711
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: the visiting batting cage. Be there a couple of the

712
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 2: hallway where he's like telling Boost about that smell that's

713
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 2: like right outside the clubhouse.

714
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know the Smell Well movie.

715
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: But they left way too much out for that movie.

716
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

717
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: Was Brad did did Brad Pitt play Billy Bean? I mean,

718
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: you know Billy Bean? Like did was that? Was that

719
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: an embellishment or was that like how Billy Bean was?

720
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean this is gosh, that was

721
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: what two thousand and one, there was basically one team,

722
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: so I mean, this is ten plus years later. Billy

723
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: was in the clubhouse a lot, but not like talking

724
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: to the guys and like coming over to me to

725
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 2: my lockers saying all right, Josh, we want you looking

726
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: at that all speed away because I would have probably

727
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: been David Justice, dude, shut up. But not not really.

728
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was. He was around, but he wasn't

729
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: really like talking to us like that. He would we

730
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: would have small conversations, but you know, a personal little

731
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: billion I didn't talk that much at a very low

732
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: decibel level for the most part.

733
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: But he was.

734
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: He was definitely around, but I don't think I think

735
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: it was just being I think probably different times in

736
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: the game and trying to, I guess, support his own

737
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: theory back then as opposed.

738
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 3: To now you have vending machines, could you get a soda?

739
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: We did not have vending machines, you know, Ano that

740
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: I think of it. I don't think we even had

741
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: like we didn't have can sodas or like bottle sodas.

742
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: We didn't have the other. We think we have a

743
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: fountain machine.

744
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 3: They needed to trade Carlos Panna again, get you some

745
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: more vending machines.

746
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: I'd bring in my own, my own Coca Colas ahead.

747
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 3: I I do have an update. I have bad news.

748
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: I've gone back through the twenty seventeen draft and have

749
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: looked at compensatory and I also included competitive balance, which

750
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: is even a little later than what the Astros will get,

751
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: uh not a lot. Twenty eighteen is probably the best

752
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: pick thirty one, with Shane McClanahan of the Rays, who

753
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: has been injured a lot but is very very good.

754
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: Chris Bubich, who's been an All Star for the Royals,

755
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 3: was picked forty and twenty eighteen. In twenty seventeen, picked

756
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: twenty eight, the first pick of the compensatory round. Astros

757
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 3: legend Nate Pearson, Drew Rasmussen thirty one, Brent Rooker, who's

758
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: been good for an All Star as well, for I mean,

759
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: he was picked by the Twins and he's so playing

760
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: who knows, it doesn't matter. The point is not a lot,

761
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: so it's not just an Astros problem. There's not a

762
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: lot of like guys in that kind of range. And

763
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: then you know, have you ever seen the image of

764
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: the airplane that has all the red holes in it?

765
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: And the thought is like, oh, if it gets shot here,

766
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: you know, like that's that's a problem. But the purpose

767
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 3: of that image is like, oh, those are the ones

768
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: that made it because we didn't find the wreckage or whatever.

769
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 3: A lot of times you go like, oh, well the

770
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: astros have had a lot of success in the backgrounds

771
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: of the draft. Well, yeah, there's thirty of them every year,

772
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: and if you hit on one, you're gonna remember, Oh yeah,

773
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 3: I remember when the Ashers took Tyler White in the

774
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 3: thirty eighth round or what you know, or Hunter Brown

775
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: obviously in the fifth round. But I mean that's true.

776
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 3: There's six hundred guys drafted every year. After the first round,

777
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: like two of them are going to be really good

778
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: and you're gonna go like, oh, how that guy slipped through.

779
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 3: But the honest truth is that just scrolling back through

780
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 3: Baseball Reference was down for me. Some on Wikipedia like

781
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: a fool, but they have the they have it highlighted

782
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 3: as like if they've made an All Star Game or not,

783
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 3: and it would not shock you to find most of

784
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: the All Stars every year are the ones in like

785
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: the top fifteen picks. That's where all the good players are.

786
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 3: And then you just hope that you get Yeah, there's

787
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: great players every but it's still got to be good,

788
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: you know, like I know, yeah.

789
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: And Nookie Bezk hit two thirty and still make an

790
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: All Star team. And some Joe slogan at three to

791
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: ten in the back of a door of a lineup

792
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: a night and the considered it.

793
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: So I do wish they would do it.

794
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: If you're Jacob Miserowski, you can just like throw one

795
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: hundred and five miles an hour twice.

796
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: Bad things from baseball. That was awful because think about

797
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: somebody who had a great first half that could have

798
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: used that.

799
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 3: Nah that ruled y'all are wrong.

800
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: That was cool.

801
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: He came up and was just throwing darts. I want

802
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: to see that guy face off against the best. It's

803
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: a cool exhibition game. Yeah, well he didn't come up

804
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: till after the All Star Game. That's on him. You

805
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: should have got that PPI.

806
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: Better story than Jacob.

807
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: Is he still rookie eligible? Could he win Rookie of

808
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: the Year next year?

809
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: Savage?

810
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

811
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: I think so.

812
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 3: That's disgusting.

813
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was He's again to win the

814
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: World Series and the Blue Jay didn't even win it.

815
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: But to win the World Series, you've got to have

816
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: people just come out of nowhere. Like I don't think

817
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: if you hooked all the Blue Jays front office up

818
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: to truth serum, I would tell you. I think they'd

819
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: tell you that they really liked Tredy Savage and they

820
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: thought he'd do a nice job. I don't think any

821
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: of them could have envisioned that With the Dodgers.

822
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: Blue Jays need to talk about their base runnings. That's

823
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: what they need to think about. Over to the base running.

824
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was your take on that with ik which.

825
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: One which one third base the home plate.

826
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: Were getting double? The double? Like that was pretty self explanatory.

827
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: Like that was just a bad read by Barger on

828
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: the on the key on the ball, the kind of

829
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: filethl one. Yeah, the kind of filethyl lead that seemed

830
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: to divide people.

831
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: Let's break it down. I'm ready. I've been ready for this,

832
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: So if everybody's seen the picture, I'm sure of how

833
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: not far he was off the base right, And I

834
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 2: think I saw yesterday on Twitter act wherever I think

835
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: Maryfield was talking about how he was doing everything right,

836
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: and I completely disagree because one, he wasn't even ready

837
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: in a running position when the balls hit. He was

838
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: seven feet off the bag, and monthsy once he's a

839
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: third right, months he's like ten feet off the bag. Like, Bro,

840
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: you need three more steps, you need a better secondary

841
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: because if you get lined up double play, that like

842
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: there's nothing you can literally do if you can line

843
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 2: up double play than that, So like that's way better

844
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: than worrying about getting thrown at a home plate.

845
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: Well, Also, if you're leading off the same distance as

846
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: Max Munci, even if it's a line out, like you

847
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: should beat him back to the bag anyway, so you

848
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: at least have to be as far away from the

849
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 3: bag as like, the.

850
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: Only one that you're getting beat on is probably the

851
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: one right at him, or the one going towards the

852
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: bag like anything else, You're okay, but like you gotta

853
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: you gotta be better than that man, Like I see,

854
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: I see where he's at, and it's just, dude, you

855
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: you literally will. I didn't say you didn't lose it.

856
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: Y'all didn't win the World Series by two inches and

857
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: all you needed was two extra feet. Imagine like you

858
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: you were five feet closer to home play, you're standing up.

859
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: You're supposed to slide at home or run through it?

860
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: Well, they say, I mean it's just like they say,

861
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: it's just like first base. You never slide into it

862
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: because it's technically slower. So I mean there is that argument,

863
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: But I mean, how many guys in that moment think

864
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: about just running straight through home play because you're only

865
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: instinct just to slide in. I'll tell you what, I'm

866
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 2: not sliding feet first with the World Series on the line,

867
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Speaker 2: I'm jumping like airborne Pete Rose style.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like during the regular season, normally,

869
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Speaker 3: when the bases are loaded, you end up sliding anyway

870
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Speaker 3: because the thought is like, well, if they got a

871
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Speaker 3: force at one of the other bases that I didn't see,

872
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Speaker 3: then you you know, you're able to do that. Obviously

873
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: that ball was hit to say. I mean, there's no

874
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Speaker 3: way that they were going to be able to you know,

875
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Speaker 3: turn anything. But still your your initial the thing that's

876
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Speaker 3: in your brain as I'm supposed to slide, just in

877
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Speaker 3: case they've stepped on a base somewhere or whatever. It

878
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Speaker 3: feels like a thing a third base coach probably should

879
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Speaker 3: have like whispered at some point, like, hey, just run

880
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Speaker 3: through it just in case, you know that, Like third base.

881
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: Coach has got to be right there and you're too

882
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: talking about how much space you got, how much room

883
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: you got, all this kind of stuff. Get another step,

884
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: get another step, like it's done just on filefa. Like

885
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Speaker 2: third base coach has to take a little responsibility on

886
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Speaker 2: that as well.

887
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Speaker 3: But I mean, that's just how rough would it have

888
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: been for Miguil Rojas to hit that game tying home

889
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Speaker 3: run and then just air mail one.

890
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Speaker 1: That was a hell of a hell of a play.

891
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Speaker 2: Fantastic play, but I mean you imagine just it have

892
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: been like what was the kid for a that flipped the.

893
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: Ball to home play in the theater, Ryan Kirk, that.

894
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: Would have been the same, that'd have been kind of

895
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Speaker 2: the same scenario with a bigger and on a much

896
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: bigger stage, obviously, but you gotta be better. That's the

897
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: base running one on one. It does not take athletic

898
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: ability to be a good base runner.

899
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Speaker 3: Did you like some I don't think i'd be a

900
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Speaker 3: very good base runner.

901
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Speaker 1: Did you like the bunt? Red?

902
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: I'm off for the bunt. I'm all for it. You

903
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: try something different, Nobody's it's nobody's expecting it. I mean,

904
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: in this game, nobody's expecting a bunt.

905
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 3: But that I mean they it was announcers where like

906
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: he's going to bond here.

907
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: And they were gonna walk flatty behind him. I just

908
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if you give up and and again

909
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: Schneider had to jig his line up around because like

910
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: he had to pinch run for some like he didn't

911
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: have his best offensive lineup in there. So I get it,

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00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: but it's hard for me to like rationalize like giving

913
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Speaker 1: up and out.

914
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he wouldn't have been on third to

915
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: even get close at home if they hadn't you know,

916
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: if they if that guy had struck out and they

917
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 3: walked flat at first.

918
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: And said that was the thing they were walking Vlad,

919
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: No matter what Yeah, like no matter where he was, Like,

920
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: they were not gonna let Vlad beat them. It was

921
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: gonna be.

922
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: Even if you had first and second, you were just

923
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 2: still probably walk anyway.

924
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: And they and like Bhett Baschett was hitting clean up

925
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: that night. He was out of the game because they

926
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: had to run for him in the ninth. So like

927
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Speaker 1: the cleanup hit or whoever it was, was not Baschett,

928
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Speaker 1: So like it was like just circle this dude, and

929
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: and let like if that guy beats this, and like,

930
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: oh well, I think.

931
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Speaker 3: The ik have run for was it not Bushett? I

932
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: thought that's who he was running for. I like this

933
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: game of can we guess what the box score is?

934
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: You could just look it up because they ran for

935
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: Bhett earlier in the game, right, because he was the

936
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: winning running. He was the winning running. Like the ninth

937
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: in the.

938
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: Long fly ball that yeah, I think that was the ship.

939
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that was.

940
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: Because he got what about that that catch by piz.

941
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: To of just just like catch it.

942
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 3: I don't think had any chance of catching that. And

943
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: he was running all over the place there he.

944
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: Got plowed over. He was there.

945
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: Well did you see what k said as to why

946
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: he stayed like because everyone thought he was hurt. Everyone

947
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: thought has A trucked him and hurt. He said he

948
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: stayed on the ground because he thought they lost the game.

949
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: He thought he didn't catch.

950
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: It right, and he looked at Pie He's like, wait,

951
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: you have the ball. He popped up and went what

952
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: about the benches? What about the benches? Clearing?

953
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 2: Too? Was so dumb?

954
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 3: Was the warning was tone deaf? I mean, like, how

955
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: are you going to enforce that game seventh the World Series?

956
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: Making it about you? Come on? It was what Jordan

957
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: Baker right.

958
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: Umpire, Yeah, but I think he had I think the

959
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: crew they got together Markner Wagner was the crew chief,

960
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: and I think they had to I think they had

961
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: to warn. I don't know, but apparently it's like if

962
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: you warn, like it's not an automatic ejection for them

963
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: because like who got hit? Uh, you Savage? Didn't know

964
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: you savage and hit anybody? Was Yamamoto like his second

965
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: he hit ale Hunter Kirk and didn't They didn't throw

966
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: him out, So like, yeah, it's it's a big discretion thing.

967
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just found it funny because like Justin Robleski,

968
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: some guy that I've never heard of, and Andres and like,

969
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: these two dudes are not trying to like start No.

970
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: Right now, you're not trying to be anywhere near a

971
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: spotlight situation.

972
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: I KF did run for Buschette and the ninth, I

973
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: know ball, You guys are fools. I'm smarter. Take that.

974
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: But then I KF but that. But he came back

975
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: up in the in the eleven I was.

976
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: Talking about in the ninth.

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Speaker 2: I remember still my last name.

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