1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: So we miss I think, like go ahead. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no, I didn't have anything. I 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: just couldn't hear you. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think that. I know we missed at 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: least one birthday. So if we want to just bang 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: that one out up top. 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: We want to load up the spankings. 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: And say did you have a nice birthday? 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: Like my birthdays have been good. I suppose I'm good 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: for spankings because it was. 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: A couple ago. That west not always the case, true, right, Yeah, 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: I guess am I confusing it with someone I feel 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: like in the past you've gotten not enough spaking's on 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: your birthday. 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: I think you are confusing me with someone else. 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: I just want to say, I just want to say 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: to explain, like Kevin's briefing document sucked today. 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Wait he always kind of. 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: He updates it even for people that have been on 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: the show before. 21 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean like like especially you haven't been 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: here in a while, Like we wanted to catch up 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: on when's the last birthday that you had? How many 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: spankings did you get? And it's all like and he was. 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: Like kind of like to push on this, like he 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: was like Paul's gonna really want to go into it, 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: So let's leave most of a block available for the birthday. Yeah, 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: And it feels like what I'm getting back from you 29 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: is this is no criticism of you. This is on Kevin. 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: We're kind of done with it already. 31 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: I think. 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: So. 33 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 3: I don't think I will say this about the spankings. 34 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: I capted it when I turned fifty. I capted it 35 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: at fifty, So it's fifty every year. 36 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: Okay since fifty. 37 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, graduate happy that's a big one. Well that 38 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: was a while ago, now, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 39 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: Do you do like yeah, each spanking is like across 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: both cheeks. I do with the with the line in 41 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: the middle. 42 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: Up to me. 43 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: Well, and that's how it should work. I don't like 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: all the birth I know, we got these. You got 45 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: to bring in an intimacy coordinator for the birthday spankings 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 2: at this point, right. 47 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: Let's all relax. I mean, let's not relax. Look, here's 48 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: what must be fun. It's a party. It's a party. 49 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: You slap your friends on the ass, you slap your 50 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: family members on the ass. It's their birthday. If you 51 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 3: don't do, people don't understand anymore. I'm glad they're banning. 52 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: Tech society so sterilized me too. 53 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, because I'm sick of it. Yeah, I'm 54 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: sick of it. Yeah, I'm sick of it too. 55 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: I'm getting sick from it as well. 56 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: You mean that sounds like like a physical and us 57 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: I was being oh, no, what happened, Well I happened 58 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: not too. 59 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: And there's all these different you know, there's book talk 60 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: and they're just like film talk, and there's like no yes, 61 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: but within TikTok the algorithm. You know, the way this 62 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: thing works is it starts to feed you things related 63 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: to your interest. I have always been interested in alternative 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: diets and specifically alternatives to food. Yeah, it's like much 65 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: like with spankings. It's like, oh, so you just get 66 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: to tell me this is what food is, and then 67 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: we just we completely la la la nothing else again. 68 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: So so I've gotten into some some videos that are 69 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: kind of describing to me different things I can eat 70 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: that they say our food. And you have to be 71 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: very careful who you trust. 72 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: Well that's let me tell you something that's across the board. 73 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: Well, yeah is what I'm finding out. 74 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: Yeah I bet you are. Yeah, I bet you are. 75 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: No, you got to be very careful wallet well, and 76 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: and and that thank you. I trust you because that's 77 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: something I have tried. 78 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: I know. Got to be one gulp though, oh I 79 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: just for you. I think I think you do. You 80 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: do little pieces of it over the course of like 81 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: two weeks. 82 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: But it's not it's not sustainable. You you eat the wallet, 83 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: you start to be like, okay, this is like pretty good, 84 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: like you get like now this is like your favorite food. Basically, 85 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: you go back to the store to get to the wallet, 86 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: to get a new wallet. 87 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: You reach in your back pocket. 88 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: This is why it. God closes the door, but he 89 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: opens the window. Money clip mm hmm. 90 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: Okay. 91 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 3: That can hold not only money, as the name suggests, 92 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: but also credit cards. 93 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: Unfortually for me, that's more like a money chip because 94 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: I'm eating that. 95 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. When you start eating non food items, 96 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: all of your formerly non food I have to be 97 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: made out of food because like otherwise you're going to 98 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: be eating it now, and so it's made out of 99 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: chips and now it's like breaking in the car, so 100 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: then it doesn't hold it at all. 101 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: While it's animal style and it's just let us and 102 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: you wrap your money and cards in that and then 103 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: you know I don't want food money to let us in. 104 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: That's true. What other food clams? I guess, yeah, good one. 105 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: Are there other foods? The one money? 106 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: Pears? Do people say that, Oh yeah, pears one. 107 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty I'll run you one hundred and fifty 108 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: pairs uys. Oh you can, and you can add the adjective. 109 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: That's that's gonna be a lot of ham. He'll say, 110 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: I like this. I like this well, I like having 111 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: you here for it. Just seeing you enjoy stuff that 112 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: makes my day. That's why we were so sad to 113 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: miss your birthday. 114 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: And that's making me feel a little better about the 115 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: briefing document because this was this was in there to 116 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: I was like, this is not. 117 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: Gonna new foods? 118 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: What what else was in the dock. 119 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: He wanted to do? 120 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: So when we talked about TikTok, do you know what? 121 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: I was gonna put my hat pack hat on. I'm 122 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: gonna wait till the end so I feel like I've 123 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 3: earned it. 124 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: Kevin had this whole thing when when Sean said that 125 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: he got sick from TikTok, and it was like, how 126 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: how could TikTok make you sick? Oh, lime disease. 127 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: No, specifically lime disease, because it's TikTok. No, wait that that, 128 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: Oh I have I have had it. 129 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: I have had it, which technically means I do have it. No, 130 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: I don't think it ever goes away lime disease. There's 131 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: a y in there, so is it lime or limes? 132 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 3: This kind of feeds into my question, go ahead, because 133 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: there's a y that makes me believe it's somebody's name 134 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: or it's connected to liman, which is lemon lime. 135 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 136 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a town and that's where everybody gets. 137 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: There's there's an old one who's still going there. There's 138 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: an old one. 139 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: Why would you ever go there? 140 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: Oh that's why the old one is old lime because 141 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: they're like, we got to get the Yeah they moved, 142 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: they moved, so. 143 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: They should call it old limes disease. 144 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, but it's but it's I think it's partially. 145 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: I think the town maybe named after a name. As 146 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: you're saying saptomb back at sixty three, why. 147 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: Were we singing the slightly rearranged words, Well, you guys 148 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: were singing. 149 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: I was just kind of going back over the course 150 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 1: of my life. Wow. 151 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: Oh what a bite? Oh, what a bite? Oh what 152 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: a bite? 153 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: Bulls eye rash? 154 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: What a bite? Yeah? Is that what you got off 155 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: a tick? Bites you? I've never been That's. 156 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: The telltale sign that it's been that it was a 157 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: deer tick, is that you develop a rash in the 158 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: shape of a bulls eye. Don't always get it right. 159 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: So if you didn't see it, don't go. I can't 160 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: possibly have it, you could. 161 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Can I Just like, so, oh, sorry, you were You 162 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: want to be about your thing, because we've been talking 163 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: about this, Cam here go ahead, just in hand. Sean 164 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: and I have been talking about how there's like the 165 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: there's the inauguration coming up, yes, and of the president. Yes, 166 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: And this is a like a lot of people are. 167 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: Scared of the president, whether you like it or not. 168 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: That's true. He's the president of everybody. 169 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: And we're we've kind of been taking stock as well 170 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: and thinking about how it just kind of fucking sucks, 171 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: how we had this whole election and everyone's like, oh, 172 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: podcasts are like the dominant cultural force in America right now. 173 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: Remember everyone's talking about podcasts. 174 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: And if you told us that, remember like a few 175 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: years ago when we were saying this was gonna happen. 176 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: Do you remember that we. 177 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 3: Were actually bringing this up? 178 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: And if you told us that, then we'd be like, oh, 179 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: we're we are gonna be involved in this somehow, like 180 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: we're going to have a. 181 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 3: Piece of it. 182 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: I thought we'd be part of virtually tiny slice, right, 183 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: And so being aware of one of the podcasts this this, this, 184 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: like making this prediction and also being part of podcasts 185 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: like well they got we have to be part of 186 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: we must be touching it at least we must be butting. 187 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: Up it, and we didn't. We didn't, and it has 188 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: been so. 189 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: We face that we we have nothing to do with it. 190 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: And I've got a change. You you're saying you should 191 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: have more influences change with the podcast over. 192 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: We have to so we have to start doing the 193 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: stuff that other people are doing that has gotten like 194 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: that people are talking about it, that people like think 195 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: is like part of the main thing going on now. 196 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: And it's not that we had all of it, but 197 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: some of it and most of it. 198 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: So you're saying, I'm going to extrapolate, okay, from what 199 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: you're saying, you feel that hot ones decided this election. 200 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: So that's what I was thinking for a little bit, 201 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: and then we did try to do that we had 202 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: and we did salty ones. 203 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: Like anything or the questions we asked for excellent. 204 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: And even the tiktoks of it like did basically nosing 205 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: at all nothing. So that's why I'm like, okay, well 206 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: let's just get rid of this. 207 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: Another great reason. 208 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just said, like, ban that because that's not 209 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: something's wrong there. 210 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: And if you put out videos on on TikTok and 211 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: people don't like them, then the app isn't serving you. 212 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: And it's clearly not serving the people if they didn't 213 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: like the videos. 214 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: Ban it is doing nothing for me. 215 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: Let me get this straight. The video didn't help me 216 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 3: or them. 217 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: It's actually showing me. It's actually showing me other videos. Yeah, 218 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: it has started doing exactly, actually started showing me other videos, yes, 219 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: and podcast Yeah, it's showing them that. 220 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 3: So then okay, so then what is the new approach? 221 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: If I may because I assumed you were going to 222 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: tell me but I don't like to say the R word, 223 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: you start doing that. 224 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: We have to start doing that just and that's just 225 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: to start just we. 226 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: Gotta start saying because they're all coming back right, apparently, 227 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: every single one, every single one that we there's not 228 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: a single word that's not coming back decades in decades 229 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: to get people. The more gone it is, the more 230 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: back it's and we have to start and it's not today. 231 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: We're not ready to do that yet. Today, we're gonna 232 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: have to start getting comfortable with these words. 233 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: I think it's good to let people know that it's 234 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 3: coming up. 235 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna I mean, look, it's gonna be 236 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: normal when we do it, but it'll also be normal 237 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: because we do it, and we're going to be a 238 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: part of this movement. 239 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: And the movement is a lot of stuff that seems 240 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 4: like not okay, it's okay now. 241 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: And we don't have to do that. 242 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: And some people are gonna be mad for sure, and 243 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: I didn't I never wanted that. 244 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: But that's not being mad about it is not okay exactly. 245 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: That's what Having people be mad at you about it 246 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: is good. 247 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: That's great. Yes, you're not allowed to be mad, but 248 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: you want people to be mad. And let me say 249 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: something that Sean, you use the word movement, and I 250 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: don't know if you realized how poetic you were being, 251 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 3: because where else do we have movements in a symphony. 252 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: Oh and the oh yes, and the bathroom as well? 253 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: What is yes? Yes, I was thinking that's not. 254 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: That poetic, you know what I mean, It's just a 255 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: bodily function. 256 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but. 257 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 258 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: I don't think I can now, don't. I don't think 259 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: I can take the wind out of your sales a 260 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: little bit. 261 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: Really did just picturing being on the toilet instead of 262 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: I wasn't even picturing that like an orchestra. 263 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 3: Now, now it's kind of funny. A guy sitting on 264 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: the toilet and he's conducting an orchestra. 265 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean these sympodies are kind of long. 266 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: Tell me this guy never got to go to the bathroom. 267 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, here comes the fifth movement or something. 268 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: That's all. 269 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: He's got a little mike. 270 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 3: He does a little crowd work, some of them the classic. 271 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind it if conductors were funnier. And I 272 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: don't mean conductor jokes like they do where it's like 273 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: you're supposed to laugh. Oh that's so smart. I'm so 274 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: smart for getting it. 275 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: For everybody, even people who don't like. 276 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: I'm talking about funny funny, not like amusing, you know 277 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: what I mean? I'm talking about hard hard. I want 278 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: conductors doing hard jokes at symphonies. I wou'n't mind him 279 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: just telling some street jokes. I'd love, Oh my god, 280 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: I would love that, just some old I would love that, 281 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 3: you know what I would love. I would love for 282 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: a conductor. And and of course the whole time he's 283 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: still not he's not doing both at the same time. 284 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: But if he can, that's great. Obviously the music is 285 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: still happening, he's conducting it the right way, he's not 286 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: fucking around with that. But he does take the time 287 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: in between movements, yeah, to do a little like if 288 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: he did like a super like he like an early 289 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: show is clean and then late shows dirty. Right. 290 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: What I'm struggling with is I couldn't even just listening 291 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: to it figure out I'm not going to do it today, 292 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: But like where I would even say the R word 293 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: in that? And what then that in that discussion, you 294 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like that little back and forth. 295 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm just like, how do I even get in there 296 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: and say that? 297 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: So many you could be picturing, you know what the 298 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: conductor's saying, because you freaking well the conductors actually, I 299 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: think in the symbody. 300 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: They actually use the R word. Oh, they do all 301 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: the time. They write write down. There's no plausible diability. 302 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: It's written on the music. 303 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: God, I really, I'm worried. 304 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: I suck at this. 305 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: Here's the thing that's going to take them getting used to, 306 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: because we've been trying pretty actively trying. In your case, 307 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: I think like and not say this stuff for quite something, 308 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: just because I've been. 309 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: A word like in there didn't need to. That's what 310 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: you can do with your word. You can use that 311 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: as an adjective. You can use it before you say 312 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: something else as like a little a little pause, Yeah, 313 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. There's you have to if 314 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: you're gonna embrace it, you really have. 315 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: To embra start saying pause. 316 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: Why's that? 317 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: Well, just anytime you say something, I just think like 318 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: part of this is gonna be back where we're gonna 319 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: be bringing back the real heyday of gay panic. 320 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 321 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: And that involves saying something sometimes intentionally that could be 322 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: interpreted as like erotic between you and your friend, and 323 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: then being like I didn't even realize what I was saying, 324 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: or like how that and it's like it's a it's 325 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: a very ish on the like that came out wrong, 326 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: but it's just going pause, like you could call me, 327 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: did you even hear yourself? Or I also do it 328 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: to myself like pause, didn't mean to say it, like that. 329 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: Is that what it's that's what she said, but it's 330 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: like it's that's what a gay man said, right. 331 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: Which and then it's sort of going like and that's 332 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: not my thing, you know, even saying gay there felt 333 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: like I don't know, this is gonna be so hard. 334 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: It just is like it's hard at first. 335 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: Of course it's not gonna stay on, just that like 336 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: it's gotta actually become much worse. 337 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: I know. 338 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: That's what it's like, freaking me out and like I 339 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: don't want to be ahead of it, but I can't 340 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: be behind it. It just feels like my options are 341 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: some people are mad at me, and because of that, 342 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: people are like this is great, and people are like 343 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: actually liking me and they're really fired up about stuff 344 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: in the Patreon. 345 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: That's kind of what we're looking at. 346 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: Is ours is going down, you know, ones going on 347 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: ye or nothing. 348 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: The other option is nothing. 349 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: The other option is always nothing, just like a little. 350 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: Leak somewhere that I can't find here. 351 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: But I think that we're all gonna get swept along 352 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: in the wave. And I also think that in the 353 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 3: wake of these changes of embracing these words, some of 354 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: us are going to have to start pretending to be 355 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: angry so that they keep having power. And even though 356 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: everybody says it now and it's fine, some people have 357 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: to pretend to be upset about it. 358 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: I can do. 359 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: We can pick that side if you're not saying it 360 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: was that if the good of the two people are 361 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: on the same show, the same show is both angry 362 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: about it and doing it. 363 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: Whoever's not saying it is angry about it, and whoever's 364 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: saying it, the other person's angry about it. Okay, so 365 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 3: balance I saw the balances out. 366 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody's got to stay mad. Somebody gotta stay mad. 367 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: I think I can contribute. 368 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: One way I can maybe be useful is like not 369 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: being that successful, so then like I can easily craft 370 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: a story around that of having lost out on opportunities 371 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: because of DEI. Yeah, it's hard when you're like really 372 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: like that, like when you're really really doing good, Yeah, 373 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: kicking as it's really hard to be like it's DEI 374 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: or whatever. I think people like I can maybe be 375 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: an object of someone who DEI was a problem for. 376 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean the best the best version of that, 377 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: I think, in order to give everybody something to chew on, yeah, 378 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: is to also clearly kind of suck at your craft. 379 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: Yah. 380 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Because then you get 381 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: because then from this side you've got people going like, 382 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: that's not why you lost the sunities, homie, And then 383 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: from this side you've got people being like, happen to 384 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 2: me too. 385 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: I think I could really fit right in that sweet spot. Yeah, 386 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 387 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: I feel like depending on what you do for a living. 388 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to ask you about that as well. 389 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 3: Hold on a second. I think that people need to 390 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: be assigned things that they complain about and that they 391 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: are victims of. So if you are, if you are 392 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 3: a complainer, that means it didn't affect you directly, right 393 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: you say, I don't like that this is happening. 394 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: This isn't fair to some of those guys. 395 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: If you're a victim, then you get to say this happened, 396 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: this is happening to me. 397 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, And now I feel like I missed my window. 398 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: You know how, Sometimes people don't get into college and 399 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: they're like and they're like, Okay, now this is a 400 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: problem for everyone. I should have gotten happened to. Yes, 401 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: I feel like I should have gone out there and 402 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: been like, I didn't get to be one of the 403 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: two dope queens. 404 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: That's interesting, which is why, which you can go at 405 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: check he wasn't. 406 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: You know, it's like the captain any notice that both 407 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: of the two dope queens are black women. Yeah, at 408 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: some point I noticed that. Now that you say, at 409 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: some point, it's not a coincidence, wait a. 410 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 2: Minute, and one hundred percent of the two dope queens. Okay, Uh, 411 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: don't comment, just gonna leave that right there. You just 412 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: take away from a way you will. In fact, I 413 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: do have a comment. It seems a little unfair. 414 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: And I look at if you look at the resumes, 415 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: I think it was there like both first podcasts that 416 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: they'd started, and I'd actually been doing a different podcast 417 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: at that point for like multiple years. 418 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: So from all the dope queens, I'm sure they did 419 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: a very thorough audition process of every dope queen out there. Yeah, 420 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: my inbox was uh not exactly blowing up with that opportunity, 421 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: but fine, Fine, they must have seen a lot endless. 422 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 2: Two they chose. 423 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: Had never done a podcast before. Can I have something 424 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: about women? 425 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Uh? 426 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 3: Guess who did the search for the two Dope queens? 427 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: Okay, the two dope queens themselves. This is the Jeopardy guy, 428 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: this is the Jeopardy jack, and they. 429 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: Is now that he should have gotten that job. 430 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 3: He should have that job. He should have gotten that job. 431 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: He would have been great. 432 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 1: He had the most experience of anyone about deciding who 433 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: was supposed to be in that job every show. Yet 434 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: they had it be someone else who had never even 435 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: looked for who was supposed to host Jeopardy before. 436 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: No, that made me sick. 437 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: Just to get They got a bunch of people who'd 438 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: been on a Jeopardy or who liked it. It's really 439 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: the same. 440 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: It's interesting how it's the same thing, but we have 441 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: different feelings about it. That makes this a pretty complicated podcast. Yeah, 442 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: something that could really spark a lot of discussion on 443 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: the internet. 444 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: You guys are falling into this very naturally. 445 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 5: We're fine, and I feel it's hard right now, but 446 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 5: because it's going to start to see it more, because 447 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 5: it's why when you say something like that, Yeah, like 448 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 5: isn't this interesting and everything I'm it's like the scales 449 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 5: fall from my eyes. 450 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, it's been it's been happening 451 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: this whole time and I didn't realize and. 452 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: Wow, that's awesome. I'm so glad. I wish that were 453 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: happening for me. And it's not like I'm like, oh, 454 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: this is like so bad to do or whatever. I 455 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: just like don't really get like exactly how it works. 456 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: What else don't you totally understand? And I don't know, 457 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: like what, like, what's happening instead of what's supposed to 458 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: be happening for me? Instead of this. I know I'm 459 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: supposed to have some opportunities that I'm not having. That's 460 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: the idea. 461 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: But what's what I wanted to dig in about. And 462 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry I interrupted, No, But you were saying, depending 463 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: on what you do for a living, Yeah, and I. 464 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: Think that, yes, that would be huge to start with. 465 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: That could give me maybe a clear shot. 466 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 3: So let's, for the sake of our argument, for the 467 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: sake of arbitrage, let's say that you guys are podcasters 468 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 3: for a living, Right, that's your job? 469 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? Nice? 470 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 3: So that means you will have a set of things 471 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 3: that you complain about you're upset about, yes, right, but 472 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 3: you're not victims. You are because you are the truth tellers. 473 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 3: You're telling other people that they're victims, right, and they 474 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: don't even realize. 475 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, we actually, well we operate outside the system. 476 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. 477 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: That's interesting. From your perch a top, we can see 478 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: you know, the podcast tower, everyone else getting take it 479 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: for a rock. Yeah, we heroically, yeah, you know, have 480 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: decided to kind of just bow out from that entire process, 481 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: which is so contaminating with with everybody's you know, crazy 482 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: bias and political agendas. And what we do is we 483 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 2: actually can kind of sit kind of like uh Statler Waldorf. 484 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: Yes, right, Notice, I mean I'm just gonna say it 485 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: right now, there's no way if you did them today, 486 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: they would both be white guys. Sorry, there's just absolutely 487 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: you could not do that today. 488 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: No, there they probably they probably wouldn't even allowed to 489 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: be both be puppets, just to say it. 490 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 3: One of them would probably have to be like a 491 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: dope queen, like a well, I wasn't gonna say that. 492 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: I actually have an issue with it. 493 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: But see now that feels good too. What can we 494 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: somehow do both? Can we get get them just then 495 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: like go the other like then just be like, well 496 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: this is what we. 497 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: Should what we should have done, Hayes and Paul, I 498 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: don't want to do this to you now, although you 499 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: did kind of step in it. What would be interesting 500 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: is if we are totally neutral and what we're doing 501 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 2: is and a lot of people we're tot's new and 502 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: we are get ready, get ready, We're just asking questions. 503 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 3: Is there anything wrong with that? 504 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: And then the guest who comes in can't seem to 505 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: answer a question without kind of creating some issues. If 506 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: we see the other side of that is powerful. 507 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 3: There is nothing intrinsically inherently wrong with just asking questions. 508 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 2: Let me back up. 509 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 3: We're supposed to be. 510 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 2: Curious because because we just can talk about what happened here. 511 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: So let's say, so we're just asking questions. So then 512 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: this so then he comes in and I go, like, 513 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 2: what do you think about the fact that, like, how 514 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 2: like the R word is back? 515 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 3: And let's say it goes like, I think it's bad. 516 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: I think that we stopped using that word because it's 517 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: like offensive to people, and like it's like just not 518 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: there's no benefit of it. It's there's only like a 519 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: downside that some people are hurt by it, and. 520 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: Then we go and then we drop. 521 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: You enjoy the symphony, okay, you enjoy the symphony all 522 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: because it gets written down there and they actually, so 523 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: should they not be allowed to like how far are 524 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 2: we going to We never use the word. We're just 525 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: asking questions. 526 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: Okay or something like So you think it's like bad 527 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: to be are worded, because like they actually are. 528 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: That this exactly, you know exactly. 529 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: Sorry, stigma, you're the ones who are like putting it 530 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: on you. 531 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: It's inherently insulting to say something that is just a 532 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: descriptor so like that's an issue for you. 533 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: And that's why. Now that's where the stigma is coming from. 534 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: It's from people saying like, oh, you can't say that 535 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: because it's the word is what creates the shame. 536 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: And if we just said, hey, the words, just the 537 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: word that we use, all of a sudden, now everyone's happening. 538 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: Do you think other words should be banned? What other 539 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: freedoms do you want to take away from people? Can 540 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: I ask you this? And this is not I'm not 541 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: asking you guys, but I'm being like the person why 542 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 3: is it? Don't you think it's weird that you can't 543 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 3: see it one in ten TV commercials without there being 544 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 3: an interracial couple? 545 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: Right? Yes? 546 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: What is what that weird? 547 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: Let's let's see if we can what happened per se 548 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 2: of couple. 549 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: What happened to white people white people couples in ten 550 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 3: out of ten commercials as opposed to one out of ten? 551 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: And then and then well, and then an eleventh commercial 552 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 2: that was only on in certain markets, that was only 553 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: for a product being specifically marketed to. 554 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: Someone who was not What about that? 555 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: Okay? 556 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: Can we just do that? 557 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 3: I'm just asking a question. 558 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: Do you think it's interesting? And I would say so, Paul, 559 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: I see. 560 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: You have glasses? 561 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, are you nearsighted or far sighted? 562 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: I'm nearsighted? 563 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So should that be the N word? Because you're 564 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: saying that you have a vision impairment that you know 565 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: requires some correction, that you are in a sense differently abled, 566 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: and so so we're banning these words. But where does 567 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 2: it stop? 568 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: Now we can't say nearsighted? How do we even describe this? 569 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: And here's what I love is that now we're already 570 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 3: at we can't say that anymore, even though I. 571 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: Was actually thinking, that's crazy. We can't say that. 572 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: It hasn't even happened. Can I even my prescription exactly? 573 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: Because it's like I'm not allowed to say that, are optometrist? 574 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: Is that I'm tell cited or what I mean? 575 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 3: I can't say it anymore. 576 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: They've taken this. 577 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 3: Now you're your autometrist has to say you're the insight slur. 578 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: Shouldn't I be able to choose? Shouldn't I be able 579 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: to pick. 580 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: Whether whether you're near sighted or fared? Well? Yes? That too? Yeah, 581 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: I mean should I be able to pick which I don't? 582 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: Which one I am? 583 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: Should you be able to identify as just like wich 584 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: identify as far? 585 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: You saved it? 586 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: Thank you? You say thank god? I mean that that was 587 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: my first like and it makes sense. I really felt 588 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: like what I thought you were. 589 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: Saying it was impossible and then you and I thought, 590 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: don't take that shot? 591 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 3: Ye swish? 592 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was that felt good? That was good. 593 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: Sometimes you just need to see it go through once. 594 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: And you start to really feel it, right. 595 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: Can I identify it? 596 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to be using that a 597 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: lot as. 598 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: A as uh as anything doesn't matter. 599 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: It could be something. No, I know, I know, No, No, 600 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: I know the rules, knew the rules, I knew the rules. 601 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 3: No, no, I like pressure on, I know, I know. That's 602 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: like he's saying, like I identify as Okay, if we're 603 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: both talking, I can't think of it. Yeah, no, identify. 604 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: But what I'm telling you is like, you can stop 605 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: telling you just pick the thing. 606 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but I've got I'm trying to pick the thing, 607 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 3: but I feel like I need to say the words 608 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: I identify as a first. 609 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: So then so you've said those words and now say it. Okay, 610 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: but that's going to be the ideal, But now that is. 611 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: So far from the original words that I said. 612 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: My point to was that the issue is like, if 613 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: you take too long, it doesn't feel like I feel 614 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: like I was so close. 615 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: To getting it, and then you kept telling me to 616 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 3: just say it, but I didn't have it. And every 617 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 3: time you were saying just say it, you want to 618 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 3: it further away? 619 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, I don't want to make an example 620 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: for me, and I don't want to. I don't want 621 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: to make it more complicated. But for me, I'm like, okay, 622 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: is this where you use the R word and like, no, 623 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: not really, are you kidding me? Do you think that's 624 00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: a useful I don't. 625 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: Think that because you wait till we run out of 626 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: steam and then you say, you know what you guys are? 627 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 1: I know, but it's not the identify as this, Like 628 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: that's not like I'm like combining two things. 629 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 3: You say you should you should identify as. 630 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah that's right. Yeah, later, but that's so good. 631 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: I could identify the both of you is yeah, yeah, 632 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: that's so good. Right, Okay, I'm getting how the shows work, 633 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: and I'm actually starting to see the appeal of making one, 634 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: if not necessarily listening to one. 635 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, making one for sure. 636 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: Well, there are some sort of patterns and games you 637 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 2: can kind of trap yourself into it, and it is very. 638 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 3: I mean it is very. 639 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: I'm not touching you, you know what I mean, Like 640 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: you can't get made right? 641 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 642 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: Are we gonna need like some of these somebody have 643 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: so many guys in here? Are we gonna need like 644 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: more guys? 645 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: There's always more guys. 646 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: But then what's the like financials of that? Is it? Like, 647 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: I know, it's not oh you mean like permanently well, 648 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: there's some of those guys who are just always around 649 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: and I look at these kind of bunches of guys 650 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: and I can see right there, like, Okay, that guy 651 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: I know is not like fully cut in on this, 652 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, He's here a lot, but 653 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: this is like he. 654 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: Doesn't really know what everybody else is making from this. 655 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: He's doing piece work. Yeah, I know that he might 656 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: think that everyone else is getting paid like on a 657 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: per episode basis, if that right, But like that's not 658 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: actually what's going on. But what if I, I like, 659 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: how do I end up being one of the other 660 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: guys and not that guy? You know what if I 661 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: bring a bunch of guys in here and I'm like 662 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: looking around him. 663 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: Like, can I already feel that I'm one of those guys? 664 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: You know? 665 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: Then we well, then we get into the concept of 666 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 3: the alphabet male system. 667 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, are you familiar with the Greeks talk about 668 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: it and. 669 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: The Greeks the Greeks like they put everyone into an 670 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: alphabet category and they said you're this, you're that, And 671 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: then what is great is you decide yourself. 672 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: You just say it, You say what you identify as Yes, exactly, Okay, 673 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: but it's good this time. 674 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: It's good that there's been a bit time. 675 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: This time it's for good. 676 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a big run on a yes, be good different, 677 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: but also a big run on calling people be So 678 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: you get to decide what you are and you get 679 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: to decide what other people are. 680 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: Yes. 681 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: And it's so far it's been pretty binary. But if 682 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: I want it to be and I you know, I'm ashamed. 683 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: I don't know my whole Greek alphabet so perfectly, but 684 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: I want to say, oopsalon if I want to be 685 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: an O, sorry, we just got your your type. 686 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, outside the system yeah, oh for outside yeah yeah, yeah, 687 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I don't have to play 688 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: your little games. Yeah, I'm just here to ask questions. Yeah. 689 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,239 Speaker 1: So when we're talking about like mindset stuff, we are 690 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: going to have to be doing a lot more of 691 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: That's one where we like pick and you do you 692 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: are whichever one you want, yes, and you define it 693 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: on your own and no one else is allowed to 694 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: do it for you. Yeah. But what if someone is 695 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: like doing that to me, I'm I'm getting like I 696 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: have to like be pissed off and fighting and stuff. 697 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: Right, here's what you do and This is how I 698 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 3: think you you solidify as the top dog is you 699 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 3: act like you don't care. 700 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: And if somebody but Paul I cares so much about 701 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 2: being the top dog, but. 702 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: You, but you, you have to you have to understand 703 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 3: that when you see a top dog, you're like, I 704 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 3: wish I was that guy. He doesn't care, but he 705 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 3: maybe he does does care, but he acts like he doesn't. 706 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 1: Is he crying? 707 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 3: Does he cry as well? Does he cry like me? No, 708 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: not that anybody sees. 709 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: Who knows? 710 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 2: Well? 711 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: Then, but you just said that he like thinks about 712 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: it the same way I do. That he like cares 713 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: so much as making him. 714 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: Like yeah, but he doesn't let you know that. He 715 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 3: doesn't let you. 716 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: I you just said he's not crying, Well, then congrats 717 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: you're there. But I'm crying, are you? 718 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? It doesn't look like you're crying to me. Okay, 719 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 3: I'm really close crying. Yeah. 720 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So maybe he's not crying right now, but he's 721 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: gonna be in like one second. 722 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 3: He could. But I mean, because it's happening so much, 723 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 3: nobody can see it. That's the thing. If you don't, 724 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 3: you don't do it in front of people. You shouldn't 725 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 3: bring it up. 726 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: But he's top dog and I'm not. And that's what 727 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm crying. Yeah, no, not him, not me, know this 728 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: other guy. 729 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 3: But I'm crying. But here's what you do. You tell 730 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 3: other Okay, starts with telling other people we're both top dog, 731 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 3: me and him. We're both top dog. Okay, then that 732 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 3: that will color how this guy like me. 733 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: I'm friends with him and we're both top dog. And yes, 734 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: it just so happens that he's. 735 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you if you're if you're going to be 736 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 3: an album male, you you act like an album male. 737 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: You say you're an album male, and you refer to 738 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 3: fellow albas as your friends and say that you're both albas. 739 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: Right, And maybe crying is now part of like a 740 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: new because we're gonna need to find a new martial 741 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: art to like have to be part of. 742 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 3: Our Do you do you feel like you're definitely gonna 743 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 3: be doing a lot of crying. 744 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: We absolutely need to plan for that in any scenario, 745 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: some kind of way to spin in the crying because 746 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: it's almost certainly going to happen, and it might happen 747 00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: any man. 748 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, there's two occasions when you cry sad, laughing 749 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: when you're crying, funny when you're it's so funny, you're 750 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 3: so ridiculous, or another word that starts with R. 751 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm crying and so I'm smiling while I'm crying. Through 752 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: my whole podcast. 753 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 3: The only thing you have to learn how to do 754 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 3: is smile while you cry. That's it. You could do that. 755 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 3: That's something you could train yourself to do. 756 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but. 757 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 6: You're making me laugh, man, I guess if you can 758 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 6: figure out a way to control the sobbing part of it, 759 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 6: because crying almost sounds like laughter. 760 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 3: See that sounds like you're laughing. 761 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 2: It's really funny, it's does it look like you're smiling though, 762 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: I will say I will say that although it sounds 763 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 2: like you're laughing, you do look like that, I know. 764 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 3: But it's a grimace. It's a grimace. Maybe if you 765 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: like clap like you're just you can't believe. 766 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 2: It was really close. 767 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 3: It was really close. God, it was right. I swear 768 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 3: there was like a couple of seconds there where it 769 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 3: was perfect. But you can pass. You could practice. This 770 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 3: is something you could practice. You know, when you you cry, 771 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 3: you look in the mirror to see what you look 772 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 3: like when you're crying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, do that. Your 773 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 3: eyes are too s closing to see. Well, that's so 774 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: you take a big heaving when you take your big 775 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 3: heaving breath. 776 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 1: I have I just get a video crew. 777 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,479 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I guess that's true. You could do that. Yeah, 778 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 3: get with video my last nickel. Oh, you get a 779 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 3: whole crew. Okay, I was thinking you could just use 780 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 3: your phone, but. 781 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: My hands are shaking too ard and I'm also supposed 782 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: to be clapping. Don't forget. 783 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: At the point that I'm learning how to set up 784 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 2: like a tripod for my phone or something, I'm just like, 785 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: I'm just like, I might as well have a professional 786 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 2: crew here, Like, look at all this equipment. 787 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 3: They're not you know what I mean. It's just a. 788 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: Whole totally different skill set, you know what I mean. 789 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 2: We have unions for this stuff. 790 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 3: There's a word I want to use so bad right now, 791 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 3: but it's not time yet. 792 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 2: No, and when do you think it will be? Some wondering, 793 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 2: Well after, I'm feeling very comfortable now with my idea 794 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 2: to ask questions and have the questions all be framed around. 795 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 3: Like out of respect. 796 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 2: For you, my woke guess I'm not going to use 797 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 2: this language, but we're going to talk around it in 798 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 2: a way that is frankly worse than just casually using 799 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 2: any kind of language more damaging and just and kind 800 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 2: of accept these ideas and just kind of stake out 801 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: these arguments. Sorry, Yes, in a way I think we 802 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 2: can talk. I think we can interpret dreams and stuff 803 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: on the show as well. That's also like just another 804 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 2: thing that people might like, I. 805 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 3: Haven't seen that film, but it's it's dreams, right, it's incepting. 806 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 2: Incepting is dreams. Yeah, that's what they're doing. You should 807 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 2: do a podcast about not having seen different movies. 808 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 3: And tenant what's that tenant is on the court? 809 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: Both people have rackets. 810 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: There's okay, this could work, This could work. My plan 811 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: is to I'm I don't feel quite as prepared. Obviously. 812 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: I have a little routine set up where I Am 813 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 1: going to call my wife these different words in a 814 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: Fibonacci sequence style cadence. So once on the first day, 815 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: three times the next day, seven times a day after that, 816 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: like now we're intil Like that's thirteen fifteen times by 817 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: day fours. 818 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 3: The swift ramp up. 819 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 2: But that's the that's the it's the golden that's the 820 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: golden sacred. 821 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Fibonacci is the is the the dimensions of your face, right, 822 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 3: is the quadrants of your if you have the. 823 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: Four quadrants everything everything, Actually, you can actually put it 824 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: on anything and it's just on there, not a. 825 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 2: Paul Paul, Paul Paul. This is one of the main things, Paul. 826 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: Literally everything else you can put it on. 827 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 2: You can put it on, yes, yes, yes, a big 828 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 2: fit yeah okay. 829 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: Yes, not a big fish like literally anything you can 830 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: put it on that kind of double crab, like like 831 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: land stuff, like not like ocean stuff obviously, but like 832 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,479 Speaker 1: any any any land related stuff that's not got. 833 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 3: A seashell exactly. 834 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. We said that you're not supposed 835 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,280 Speaker 1: to do it with any any ocean related stuff. 836 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 3: But you said before the seashell is one of the 837 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 3: most common things. 838 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: That's what he was saying. 839 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: He was lying. 840 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 2: I was confusing it with a sea suite. 841 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 3: It's funny because something I also want to talk about 842 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 3: on the show. I was just asking questions and then 843 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 3: you lied, And isn't that interesting? 844 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: Okay and all? 845 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 3: And I'm and I am the good person. 846 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 2: I'm here to admit I was confused. I'm here to 847 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 2: admit that I misunderstood the question and I misspoke when answering. 848 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 2: The phrasing of the question was a bit intentionally confusing, 849 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: I think. 850 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 3: So it starts out where it sounds like I was wrong, 851 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 3: and then by the end it's like this person was 852 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 3: wrong for asking the question the way they did. Yeah, 853 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 3: this is exciting. I like that. 854 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 2: I'm just feeling like the sort of wind at my 855 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 2: back right now. Yeah, it just really I could run 856 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 2: forever because I'm starting to understand what we're doing here 857 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 2: and what a podcast is, which it's just never too 858 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 2: late to figure out what a podcast is. So we 859 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 2: started it and nobody knew us included, and they have 860 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 2: sort of started to, independently of us, figure out what 861 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: it is. And I'm here to kind of get on board, 862 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 2: just like just give up and just kind of roll 863 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 2: my dead corpse along with the current. 864 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 3: Did you know Thomas Edison invented the light bulb by accident. 865 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 3: He's trying to make a washing machine, didn't even do it, 866 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 3: and you made light bulb be He's like, I don't 867 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 3: know what this is for. And then other people figured 868 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 3: it out, and they started and they made sockets and stuff. 869 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,479 Speaker 2: And what he was really trying to do, by the way, 870 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 2: was get his dick sucked. 871 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 6: Is that true? 872 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 2: And he's not trying to invent a washing machine, He's 873 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 2: going trying to get with this chick. But she said, 874 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 2: you got to do laundry on Friday night. Maybe if 875 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 2: I can make that laundry goal a little quicker, I 876 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 2: can get this Thomas ed dick sucked. 877 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: And by denying that like this that it's like bad 878 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 1: to want to get your dick sucked for some reason. 879 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm supposed to pretend that feels bad to me, 880 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 2: and just because it is sort of scary. 881 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: And you actually noticed that they haven't invented like a 882 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: new thing to like do with your clothes since the 883 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: washing machine and then the dryer obviously, yeah there there 884 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: has where's the new machine since then? Because we're not 885 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: a lot all the inventors are out there being like, oh, 886 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: I guess I'm never allowed to have my dick sucked again. 887 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: And so what's the point of me even like inventing something. 888 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 2: Why we make a better device for cleaning clothes? Because 889 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 2: I can't even I can't even say that. Yes, I'm 890 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 2: so sorry. I actually think it feels kind of interesting. 891 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 3: That's a crime. Now, I wholeheartedly apologize if I find 892 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 3: pleasure from having mine dick sucked. Oh yeah, well it's uh, 893 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 3: lock me up. You know what I mean? Isn't this 894 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 3: God made us? 895 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 1: That? 896 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 3: That feels good? 897 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 2: Every in every single culture, every species all throughout history, 898 00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 2: every species walk one foot. Not sharks, Paul, I mean, 899 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ has got to come to me at sharks again, 900 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: you know. 901 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 3: But all the normal one go. When you say every 902 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 3: it's not really every sea. 903 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: Animals just like wander into any national park and just 904 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: see what they're all doing in there. 905 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,760 Speaker 3: Just sit down on a bench, you know, take out your. 906 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: Just actually look at nature for you know, you know what. 907 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 3: Go to the zoo because they're all. 908 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 1: Doing they love it there. They've made a big. 909 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 2: Chain all the animals, big change. 910 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: Glove. 911 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sucking the whole zoos doing this thing. But 912 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 3: Thomas Edison is a bad guy because I've got a 913 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 3: band zoos. 914 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, turn off all the lights. Apparently we shouldn't 915 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 2: have done that zoo. There was no problem with zoos 916 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 2: for a million years. Now, all of a sudden they're bad. 917 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 3: Now, oh, now they're coming for our zoo. They finally 918 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 3: figured out the bad thing about zoos. 919 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: What's next? Man, one of the most pure just can't 920 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 2: even see an angle through which it could be considered. 921 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: How you're not even allowed to say to a living 922 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,760 Speaker 1: creature get in there anymore? 923 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 3: I want to. 924 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 2: Fucking look at you. Excuse me, I want to look 925 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 2: at you. 926 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 3: So oh my god, you took that lion so far 927 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 3: from his home. Uh, yeah, that's why we painted the jungle. 928 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 2: On the s Yeah, yeah, that's why we actually had 929 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 2: we're aware of accomplished muralist. Yes, paint the concrete in 930 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,240 Speaker 2: the back. Yeah, zoo muralist. 931 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 3: Ask him if he has a problem with it, you're 932 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 3: welcome to go into the lion cage and ask him go. 933 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:54,959 Speaker 1: Into because it's just let him wander around the city. 934 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: I guess we should just open the cage and let 935 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: the lion. 936 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 3: Such a big sweetheart, Why don't we let him just 937 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 3: him just go. 938 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 2: You cracked it, you figured it out, because now zoos 939 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 2: are bad? 940 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 3: Do you even hear yourself? 941 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so go ahead, just bring the lion home. 942 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 3: Here's the key, go on. 943 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 2: Walk in, pick him up. And carry him to whatever stand. 944 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 3: Yep, unbelievable. It's frankly unbelievable. 945 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 2: What were you gonna say you identify as before? 946 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 3: Oh uh, that's like, hey, can I say that I 947 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 3: identify as as a as A, as A, as A, 948 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 3: as A I would say, I know you didn't want me. 949 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 3: You are doing it again, though, I Can I say 950 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 3: that I identify as as a as a as a. 951 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 3: I The reason I was if you say that, then 952 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 3: I say I identify as a as a, as a, 953 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 3: as a, as 954 00:48:53,320 --> 00:49:00,720 Speaker 2: A by what Hamburg