Speaker 1: Fine or by the player that everyone expected to go
Speaker 1: absolutely ham our man, Andrew Wiggins. What putting on a
Speaker 1: performance for the Ages Game five? The Andrew Wiggins Game
Speaker 1: twenty six points, thirteen rebounds back to back off another
Speaker 1: stellar performance where seventeen points.
Speaker 2: Sixteen rebounds.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know Andrew Wiggins was a rebounder, right, Like,
Speaker 1: that's not his game, my lord. Add this to the
Speaker 1: fact that he's been a defensive stopper all playoff long,
Speaker 1: taking on the challenge to guard Luca, Jaylen Brown, Jason Tatum.
Speaker 1: A little inside baseball in the fact that Andrew Wiggins
Speaker 1: trains with the same trainer that Jason Tatum trains with,
Speaker 1: Drew Hanlin, Pure Sweat, so he knows exactly all the
Speaker 1: moves that Jason Tatum's been working on in his bag,
Speaker 1: and he's like.
Speaker 2: Oh, nope, now I know where you're going.
Speaker 1: People might actually stop bitching about Andrew Wiggins making the
Speaker 1: All Star Game now or or k Pop getting him
Speaker 1: into the All Star Game is what gave him the
Speaker 1: confidence to get to this point. Who knows it's chicken
Speaker 1: or the egg at this this moment, I can't tell.
Speaker 1: And on my Bengo card, I did not have Wiggans
Speaker 1: showing up when the lights are brightest. I just never
Speaker 1: thought that that would ever. I would have bet my
Speaker 1: house on it. Probably something just last year, we were
Speaker 1: all joking about playoff Wiggins, crunch time, clutch time Wiggins.
Speaker 1: It's like he turns into a pumpkin, and now he
Speaker 1: turns into Lebron James.
Speaker 2: They're calling him maple Jordan again.
Speaker 1: Maple Jordan jokes on us because this dude's been the
Speaker 1: best player or second best player on.
Speaker 2: The floor for long stretches of the time.
Speaker 1: Kurr decided he was gonna speak on Wiggins showing more emotion.
Speaker 1: He also says something very quickly that I have not
Speaker 1: in my notes, but off the top of my head.
Speaker 1: He basically said that Wiggans shows that every player in
Speaker 1: the NBA can reach impact player potential if they're put
Speaker 1: in the right situation. That just leads me to wonder
Speaker 1: what players are just hiding on the bench that are
Speaker 1: not being fully utilized. I think that's actually true of
Speaker 1: all human beings. I think we all can be more
Speaker 1: if we're in the right situation. Kurr spoke on Wiggans
Speaker 1: showing more emotion, he says he's a very mild mannered
Speaker 1: guy Canadian, but he's taking a leap in these playoffs
Speaker 1: in terms of his impact on the game. Defensively, the
Speaker 1: biggest thing right now is that he's a two way player.
Speaker 2: Lots of jokes.
Speaker 1: Happening right now about Wiggins maybe stealing the Finals MVP
Speaker 1: from Steph, which would be an atrocity. Steph, who did
Speaker 1: not make a three for the first time in one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two consecutive playoff games and two hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty three straight games as a whole, it's been
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty three games. Go to mass school.
Speaker 1: That's like four years, four or five years or something
Speaker 1: like that, where Steph has made a three. Oh for nine,
Speaker 1: Will it cost him the Finals MVP? Next up on Undisputed, No,
Speaker 1: don't bet it on it.
Speaker 2: Don't bet on it.
Speaker 1: And Wigs was the reason though one hundred percent that
Speaker 1: the Warriors got this win, not something I anticipated. He
Speaker 1: was also oh for six from three, so Wiggins and
Speaker 1: Steph oh for fifteen from three and they still win
Speaker 1: by ten. I, by the way, had Warriors to win
Speaker 1: by at least nine and a half, and boy was
Speaker 1: that a backdoor sweat.
Speaker 2: Those scrubs that came in at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: They were trying those Boston the Aaron Nis Smiths of
Speaker 1: the world were trying to my bed up folks.
Speaker 2: Wiggins fifty more or more from the field forty three
Speaker 2: minutes in both games.
Speaker 1: And what's fascinating right now to me about this performance
Speaker 1: of Andrew Wiggins is that now Jimmy Butler always liked
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins. Just now we're getting all the glowing endorsements
Speaker 1: from everyone that's ever been on a team with Andrew
Speaker 1: Wiggins coming out from the woodworks in ways that are.
Speaker 2: Just odd timing.
Speaker 1: Now Tim Tom Thibodeau has glowing remarks for Andrew Wiggins.
Speaker 2: Two dudes who've.
Speaker 1: Been writing Andrew Wiggins ass telling him off your girl
Speaker 1: if you don't like run on these run these suicides,
Speaker 1: like they've been saying he's been lazy since he was
Speaker 1: drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers, and now it's just coming
Speaker 1: out that he's always had this amazing work ethic. Like
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins from beginning of time till now has always
Speaker 1: been incredible competitor.
Speaker 2: He's always been a hard worker.
Speaker 1: We just didn't see it and now Jimmy Butler and
Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeau resounding praise.
Speaker 2: Draymond Green been like first thing.
Speaker 1: Soon as that trade went down, Tom Thibodeau called me up,
Speaker 1: and he and why called me up. He's like, you're
Speaker 1: getting a great dude. You're getting an amazing player in
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins.
Speaker 2: Where was this when the trade happened? Come on, now
Speaker 2: these stories. As for the Celtics, they needed ship ball handler.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they're going to get one.
Speaker 1: We've said, like, I don't understand what moves you make
Speaker 1: because you're already in the finals and you can't really
Speaker 1: mess up with a good thing. But listen, Marcus Smart
Speaker 1: can't handle the rock. Jalen Brown can't handle the rock.
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum sometimes can't handle the rock. The best ball
Speaker 1: handler on this team's probably Peyton Pritchard, and he's getting
Speaker 1: like twelve minutes a game. Peyton Pritchell Pritchet has handles.
Speaker 1: Nobody else has handles. I don't trust a single one
Speaker 1: of them driving into the lane and not turning the
Speaker 1: ball over. Congrats also to Boston for winning the third
Speaker 1: quarter for the first time all series didn't matter. Congrats
Speaker 1: to the Boston Celtics on stopping Steph for a full
Speaker 1: game did not matter. But it kind of just feels
Speaker 1: like that seven game series that they've had in every
Speaker 1: series along the.
Speaker 2: Way except for the Nets.
Speaker 1: One right, you sweep the nets and you go seven
Speaker 1: with the Bucks, seven with the heat, and now you're
Speaker 1: probably tuckered out, need warm milk and your mom to
Speaker 1: read you a bedtime story because you look like it's
Speaker 1: night nighttime.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping. I'm hoping that they can make some moves.
Speaker 1: Someone Draymond Green's bed in Boston.
Speaker 2: Can we get that?
Speaker 1: Can we get somebody to pee in Ayisha Curry's.
Speaker 2: Somewhere?
Speaker 1: Because something hotel room, I don't know, Airbnb.
Speaker 2: I need a Father's Day matchup? I do. I need
Speaker 2: a Father's Day game seven.
Speaker 1: I need it. I don't just need it, I want it.
Speaker 1: I'm praying for it. Jalen Brown says, we're not scared.
Speaker 1: We do not fear the Golden State Warriors. I'm glad
Speaker 1: about that. That's the spunky attitude they're gonna need at
Speaker 1: a boy, Jalen Brown, don't stand down, don't let them
Speaker 1: push you around, sir, keep your head up.
Speaker 2: That's what we need. That's what we all deserve. A
Speaker 2: Game seven, that's what we need.
Speaker 1: After Game five, after the Andrew Wiggins game, went on SVP,
Speaker 1: which tells you pretty much where he's at as a
Speaker 1: media member. He's on SVP and he's at and SVP's
Speaker 1: asking him what Brian thinks about that game.
Speaker 2: So heads up to.
Speaker 1: All the Warriors media. Brian Winhorse is kind of a
Speaker 1: big deal of NBA insider, two times New York Times
Speaker 1: bestselling author, number one NBA podcast host, So he chimes
Speaker 1: in and what he said went.
Speaker 2: Goes viral, viral viral. So I want to play it
Speaker 2: for you because.
Speaker 1: It's it became the talk of the town in Warriors media,
Speaker 1: and they freaked out.
Speaker 3: Because Andrew Wiggins, he's not an underdog. He makes thirty
Speaker 3: two million. While the Warriors were down these last couple
Speaker 3: of years, winning no games, they kept spending money because
Speaker 3: they've got it. They resigned Raymond Green, they re signed
Speaker 3: Steph Curry, they resigned Kevon Looney, they kept Andrew Wiggins,
Speaker 3: and boy died to show up tonight. Andrew Wiggins with
Speaker 3: a supreme moment in his career. He was a throw
Speaker 3: in in the trade. Other teams would have totally gotten
Speaker 3: rid of him. They stuck with him. They have a
Speaker 3: three hundred and forty million dollars payroll when you consider taxes.
Speaker 3: You don't just have to beat the Warriors on the court.
Speaker 3: You got to beat their checkbook. And nothing away from
Speaker 3: Andrew Wiggins tonight. But this was a checkbook win for
Speaker 3: the Warriors.
Speaker 1: Check book win for the Warriors. I mean he's not wrong,
Speaker 1: he's not. I mean he said except for the check
Speaker 1: book win part, which is definitely a little shady, it's
Speaker 1: a little shady, But everything else he said was completely factual.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So then KMBR decided to chime in. They're the they're
Speaker 1: one of two local radio stations out of the Bay area.
Speaker 1: Let's see what they had to say. They took exception,
Speaker 1: didn't they They did.
Speaker 4: Why in the world would people pay attention to Brian Windhorst,
Speaker 4: that's the first question, Like why would anything he says
Speaker 4: rile people up? It's like, really, Brian windhorse I got you, Yeah,
Speaker 4: he got a mear skill. I mean, come on, really,
Speaker 4: I mean that that's like I did that. I saw
Speaker 4: it and I said, well that's just it's wrong and
Speaker 4: it's ludicrous. Is what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, boss, this man, this man, Brian Windhorse has eight
Speaker 1: I just checked eight hundred and twelve thousand Twitter followers.
Speaker 1: Let's look at kmbr's Twitter account. Uh, the actual station
Speaker 1: where this man is speaking. Tom Tolbert, former NBA Uh,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, journeyman has an average more than ten
Speaker 1: points a game in his entire life as an NBA.
Speaker 2: Player, but has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty one thousand followers on KMBR, Sir,
Speaker 1: don't act like what Brian Winhor says. Doesn't send ripples
Speaker 1: around the league? Stop that?
Speaker 2: Stop that please?
Speaker 1: So then then we've got the ninety five seven game
Speaker 1: people in the crew. We also had Steve Berman, Bay
Speaker 1: Area reporter for the Athletic Key Guys. He says his
Speaker 1: postgame podcasts make me feel bad for Zach Low for
Speaker 1: being forced.
Speaker 2: To do them.
Speaker 1: The constant Lebron mentions saying Steph wasn't actually hurt in
Speaker 1: Game four, spouting owners talking points about a CBA they
Speaker 1: agreed to isn't surprising.
Speaker 2: This isn't a hot take.
Speaker 1: To say that their deep pockets bought two championships with
Speaker 1: KD isn't even mildly controversial. They are two hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars into the luxury tax two one hundred million dollars, folks.
Speaker 1: So ninety five to seven, the game which the Morning
Speaker 1: Roast has a little beef with me. He spouted on
Speaker 1: Twitter about me being some hot take artist that craps
Speaker 1: whatever on Warriors.
Speaker 2: It's not even true. It's him though that I have
Speaker 2: a problem with.
Speaker 1: So they have Brian Windhorse on and I went just
Speaker 1: accidentally on the ninety five to seven. The game app
Speaker 1: at around ten in the morning, and this is what
Speaker 1: they had to do.
Speaker 5: I hear you on like the checkbook stuff. But aren't
Speaker 5: they the model of how to run your business. Not
Speaker 5: only did they pay all of these you know, different
Speaker 5: contracts from within, they also built a stadium with their
Speaker 5: own dollar and reinvested it back into the team. To me,
Speaker 5: they should be lauded as what every owner should be
Speaker 5: doing right now in sports, not just in the NBA.
Speaker 5: This is how you should run your business, trying to
Speaker 5: compete at the highest level. I don't know why that's
Speaker 5: a negative.
Speaker 6: Ill first off, I don't know why you're implying what
Speaker 6: I said was a negative. Why are you implying what
Speaker 6: I said was a negative. I was giving the Warriors
Speaker 6: a compliment, okay, uh for being able to stick with
Speaker 6: spendings through their through their rebuild, and that's why they
Speaker 6: have the depth on this team. But but and and
Speaker 6: and I mean nobody would argue that that Bob Myers
Speaker 6: in his front office have not done a tremendous job
Speaker 6: and that uh and that Joe Lacup and Joe and
Speaker 6: uh and and Peter Gouber have done a great job
Speaker 6: in financing the team. But it is not a level
Speaker 6: playing field. Well, is it that the faults? What's that?
Speaker 4: Is it that the fault of the other owners? Because
Speaker 4: the Warriors are using their resources well within the rule
Speaker 4: book to spend the money if they have, and he
Speaker 4: spent it on a lot of homegrown doll complain like
Speaker 4: Dallas Mark Cuban makes all this, but he doesn't spend
Speaker 4: at all, that's his fault.
Speaker 6: I don't understand. I'm still I'm still not sure why
Speaker 6: you guys got your back up because it.
Speaker 5: Feels like a backhanded compliment, I mean a backhanded statement
Speaker 5: because of last year that they paid for Kelly Oubre
Speaker 5: and nobody was complaining when they're paying thirty five million
Speaker 5: dollars for Clay to not play a dribble of basketball
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, now that they're winning.
Speaker 5: Just my interpretation, it felt like you were picking up
Speaker 5: water for some of the poor owners who refuse to
Speaker 5: get dip into the luxury tax. That's the way I
Speaker 5: interpreted it.
Speaker 6: It wasn't a crisism. I was praising them. Okay, I'm saying,
Speaker 6: when you go against the Warriors, you're not just going
Speaker 6: to You're going against a team that has incredible financial might.
Speaker 6: That's just a true statement.
Speaker 2: They're so den skin defensive. Stop it, please, please stop it.
Speaker 1: Yes, Brian, if you're sensing hostility coming your direction, you are.
Speaker 1: If you is sensing with your little spidy senses that
Speaker 1: their hackles are up and they're waiting to strike like
Speaker 1: a little viper on you, and that they're not going
Speaker 1: to talk you behind your back.
Speaker 2: As soon as you're off the phone, you are correct.
Speaker 2: You are correct.
Speaker 1: This is why this right here, I look for examples
Speaker 1: in real time for folks to know why it's hard,
Speaker 1: why it's hard for me to love and adore one
Speaker 1: of the best teams assembled, one of the best franchises
Speaker 1: run all that one of the most likable teams.
Speaker 2: This is why.
Speaker 1: Because Bay Area reporters, bay Area media people are like this.
Speaker 1: They have the thinnest skins I've ever seen. Accusing Windhorse
Speaker 1: of being an irrelevant hot take artist just makes y'all
Speaker 1: look like low budget fanboys with microphones and credentials. Listen,
Speaker 1: don't pretend then to have a station that really quote
Speaker 1: unquote covers the team.
Speaker 2: Don't.
Speaker 1: They're thin skinned with their hackles up because one national
Speaker 1: media member said something that was one hundred percent true
Speaker 1: and not even the tag controversial because it makes them
Speaker 1: offensive about why they won and why.
Speaker 2: They continue to win. If you were to add.
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant to the Boston Celtics right now, would Warriors
Speaker 1: fans be whining? Yes, they would be whining because Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant to any team makes things unfair when you already
Speaker 1: have a stacked roster that can get to the finals,
Speaker 1: and that would still be less than the Warriors are paying.
Speaker 2: I bet you Dub's media would be wit wit. They
Speaker 2: can't spend that much.
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins and Jonathan Kaminga are a downstream effect.
Speaker 2: Let me just say this very very clearly. You have without.
Speaker 1: Out spending and finding a way in twenty sixteen to
Speaker 1: sign Kevin Durant with that little tiny gap of period
Speaker 1: of time where Steph hadn't been signed yet, Clay hadn't
Speaker 1: been resigned yet, and you signed KD without that moment
Speaker 1: in time. You don't have Andrew Wiggins, you don't have
Speaker 1: Jonathan Kaminga. You overpaying for KD is how you got
Speaker 1: to this place. So it is a check book win.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest people. That's what they try to say. Oh,
Speaker 1: we've organically built. The only players that we've quote unquote.
Speaker 2: Paid for are Bi Alicia and Chris Chiosa and somebody
Speaker 2: else that's not relevant to this scenario j J. Scrubs
Speaker 2: of the world.
Speaker 1: The argument is that they've developed all of their talent
Speaker 1: internally and organically organically. But the Wiggins trade didn't happen
Speaker 1: without KD. That's savvy tactician work. How they get Wiggins.
Speaker 1: They signed KD in free agency checkbook move. Then he
Speaker 1: decided to leave. They wouldn't let him leave for nothing,
Speaker 1: so they went and got d LO for no reason
Speaker 1: at the time, it felt like, but no, they wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure they had a chess piece on their
Speaker 1: board because once you once, you don't if you if
Speaker 1: you use it. If you don't use it, you lose it, right,
Speaker 1: So then you do a sign and trade to get
Speaker 1: DLO and then you flip d LO for pick and
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins? Stop? How is that internal growth? How Wiggins makes?
Speaker 1: Wiggins makes thirty two million dollars a year?
Speaker 4: Y'all?
Speaker 1: Add that to steph forty six Clay thirty eight dre
Speaker 1: twenty four. That's one hundred and forty million dollars for
Speaker 1: four players. That's more than the entire fifteen man Celtics
Speaker 1: roster one hundred and thirty two million between four guys.
Speaker 1: The NBA salary cap is one hundred and twenty two
Speaker 1: million dollars.
Speaker 2: What is wrong with you? How do you not see this?
Speaker 1: You're eighteen million dollars in the luxury tax with eleven
Speaker 1: more players left to sign. How is that internal growth?
Speaker 1: How is that organic? James Wiseman makes ten million dollars
Speaker 1: a year and he hasn't done anything and I don't
Speaker 1: know how long he hasn't seen the court once the
Speaker 1: season he got shut down at the end of last season.
Speaker 1: Are you really trying to tell me that deep pockets
Speaker 1: haven't impacted this series. Really, really, you're trying to tell
Speaker 1: me we just find and attract the best talent, which
Speaker 1: is why we're the best.
Speaker 6: Stop that.
Speaker 2: Four hundred and sixty five.
Speaker 1: Million dollars, four hundred and sixty five million dollars with
Speaker 1: the repeater tax, that is what Golden State is paying
Speaker 1: nearly a half a billion dollars. The Celtics with their
Speaker 1: luxury tax hit one hundred and thirty four million. Do
Speaker 1: you see what is so clear as day.
Speaker 2: That's not a knock, that's not a dig. They just outspend.
Speaker 2: That's what they did.
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant was the outspend. Everything that comes from Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant is the same thing right down again. And trust me,
Speaker 1: this is not a shot at Warriors ownership at all.
Speaker 2: I understand.
Speaker 1: Brilliant move, Joe lacub Bob Myers, brilliant guys.
Speaker 2: How can I say that they didn't do what they
Speaker 2: were supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Nobody thought Wiggins was any good. You can outspend other
Speaker 1: people and it be bad decisions. A lot plenty of
Speaker 1: teams outspending in a bad plenty. But they outspent and
Speaker 1: got a place and a player that they knew could
Speaker 1: fit into what they wanted to do in their system.
Speaker 1: I respect it, I think everything possible should do it,
Speaker 1: But don't be so disingenuous to say that you're light
Speaker 1: years ahead of everyone else.
Speaker 2: It's like that that rich ass.
Speaker 1: Kid with parents that are rich, that has an awesome
Speaker 1: job and they've gotten up to this place where they're
Speaker 1: the CEO of a company. But it's like, yo, how
Speaker 1: did you get here?
Speaker 2: You started on third? Stop it, stop it.
Speaker 1: There's no way Andrew Wiggins gets to this roster without
Speaker 1: you having a lot of money.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's all we could say.
Speaker 1: Not a chance that you can make the trade work
Speaker 1: to get Andrew Wiggins without having Delos salary and him
Speaker 1: being overly paid, overpaying somebody that you can get to
Speaker 1: trade for another overpaid person. That's the only way that
Speaker 1: you get that done. There are Warriors media that I love.
Speaker 1: We had him on on Monday, John Dickinson love him.
Speaker 1: You know what he told me. He's between me, you
Speaker 1: and the lamp post. He's disgusted by the two is.
Speaker 2: It's disgusting, it's gross. This is absolutely baffling.
Speaker 1: You guys are awful and don't let me get excited
Speaker 1: enough to start putting my hat, my name in the
Speaker 1: hat to cover the Warriors. Don't make me head out
Speaker 1: to the Bay because I'm getting close. I'm getting close.
Speaker 1: Don't make me take your job. Don't make me take
Speaker 1: your job. I love Kendrick Andrews, I love the light
Speaker 1: Years guys, but this low rent fanboy that has got
Speaker 1: to go gotta go, folks, please,