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Speaker 1: Sunday show over the many years the Rich and I

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Speaker 1: have been doing this, you know that we expand our

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Speaker 1: show to four hours during the football season as we

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Speaker 1: morph into Red Zone Radio. It's very busy, and of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, the football season flies by, and then once

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Speaker 1: we get back into the post football season, we narrow

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Speaker 1: the show down to a three hour run. And apparently

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Speaker 1: Rich has not figured this out yet, even though we

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Speaker 1: did it last week. You know, I'm looking at here

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Speaker 1: and Rich's texting me we're getting a little few things

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Speaker 1: ready before the show. He goes, Hey, tell Chris, you

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Speaker 1: know I'm gonna get online here, and he's looking at

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Speaker 1: me already, and then all of a sudden, it came

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Speaker 1: to you so you do understand what time we start

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Speaker 1: the show now, Rich, because I want you to take advantage.

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Speaker 1: You got the two little boys. If you could sneak

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Speaker 1: in a few more minutes of sleep on a Sunday morning,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go for it.

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Speaker 2: No, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: But two o'clock eastern, all right, at eleven o'clock West

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Speaker 3: Coast time, that's when we get underway. And then for

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Speaker 3: three hours it is just sensational radio broadcast as always.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it takes me. I'm a creature of habit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, admittedly it takes me probably a month, I would say,

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Speaker 3: to get myself back into off season mode after the

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Speaker 3: hurried pace of the red zone radio sprint that we

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Speaker 3: go through for the twenty twenty something odd weeks of

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Speaker 3: the football season. I'll tell you what I have noticed

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Speaker 3: one thing about my life after the football season has ended.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious if anybody else feels this way too. I

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Speaker 3: haven't yet like settled into my normal sports like off

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Speaker 2: College basketball it's starting.

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Speaker 3: It's starting, obviously, Like I'm invested, but only half heartedly. So,

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Speaker 3: like you know, the tournament is going to definitely get

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Speaker 3: right now I'm still in like the Super Bowl hangover.

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Speaker 3: I guess you could call it all right.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know it could have been solved last week.

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Speaker 1: So last Sunday we were previewing whatever this thing was

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Speaker 1: going to be as far as the NBA all start

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Speaker 1: getting right, and I was trying to explain how this

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Speaker 1: old dynamic work where you have instead of East versus West,

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Speaker 1: four team. So they call the future stars, or as

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Speaker 1: I like to call them, the never will be Stars

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Speaker 1: thrown into the so called All Star mix. We knew

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Speaker 1: if the NBA knew how to market themselves as they

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Speaker 1: let's go down the stretch of the NBA season. As

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, March madness right around the corner. Next thing

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Speaker 1: would be there, but the NBA dropped the ball, and

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Speaker 1: you know this, this is so frustrating for me. I

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Speaker 1: know you're an NBA fan. You know I'm a diehard

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Speaker 1: many many many years ago. To see this league, with

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Speaker 1: to me. So You're hearing players and the league itself

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Speaker 1: That's not the way to win a league. You got

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Speaker 1: to do what's best for the league, and you got

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Speaker 1: but it's it's frustrating because the players are great, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they recover.

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Speaker 3: I think we have a situation in the NBA of

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Speaker 3: entitlement and player power, and when I think PK. Suban

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Speaker 3: you have a bunch of blue collar fans supporting fifty

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Speaker 2: That does not resonate.

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Speaker 3: That does not resonate when you're making you know, something

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Speaker 3: you can, but life happens, and just every once in

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Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna take the kids a couple hours.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna drive to the arena and we're gonna go

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Speaker 3: see the stars play. And then you show up with

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Speaker 3: management days. Like, you got a problem, NBA. You got

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Speaker 2: Not fixing it.

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Speaker 3: And it's insidious, and it's getting to the point where

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Speaker 3: these players are so disattached from what the rest of

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Speaker 3: complaining that it's like the fans and the media's fault

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Speaker 3: for not understanding what a golden era of basketball we're in.

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Speaker 3: You know what, Spare me, Spare me about how great

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Speaker 3: basketball is right now, because guess what the ratings, the viewership,

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Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people are appointing to this four

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Speaker 1: Nations tournament with such a spectacular windfall for the NHL, right,

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Speaker 1: it was a great contrast to what wasn't happening in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. So in the aftermath, people will saying that

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Speaker 1: there's the format, right, but the International NBA Stars versus

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Speaker 1: the eventual showdown between Canada and US. No, they won't.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what format you try to put out there,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to increase the effort of the players. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how again, Adam Silver, and let's go

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Speaker 1: back to the very beginning, because I did know David Stern.

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Speaker 1: Did many interviews with David Stern, and he was the

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Speaker 1: the next night. But what we saw last night wasn't

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Speaker 2: Because when you play eighty.

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Speaker 3: And as harsh as that sounds like, that's the reality

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Speaker 2: You can take nights off if you offer.

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Speaker 1: I know who you are.

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Speaker 6: And I was distracted by this women's college basketball game

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Speaker 1: Why you is a Notre Dame. I don't get this.

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Speaker 6: I didn't understand that either.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 1: the reasoning.

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Speaker 8: I agree, I agree, but Notre Dame again down to

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Speaker 8: the last minute and I think their.

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Speaker 6: Best player, Hidalgo just bowled out this game.

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Speaker 7: Is it's fayeah, Yeah, I think, oh, but it was

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Speaker 7: quite exciting.

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Speaker 6: So that's what I was My attention was on that game.

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Speaker 6: Let's check in on men's college hoops because number ten

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Speaker 6: Saint John's has officially beat Yukon eighty nine to seventy

446
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Speaker 6: five at the half. Number thirteen per Due on top

447
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Speaker 6: of Indiana thirty seven to twenty five, and with about

448
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Speaker 6: eight minutes to go in the first half, Florida Atlantic

449
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Speaker 6: is on top of number twenty two Memphis twenty to eighteen.

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Speaker 6: In the NBA, Jason Tatum putting on a show in

451
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Speaker 6: Boston twenty points, eight rebound, six assists, and the Celtics

452
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Speaker 6: are beating the Knicks seventy seven to fifty three halfway

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Speaker 6: through the third quarter. Knicks are expected to get their

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Speaker 6: center back Mitchell Robinson this week.

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Speaker 1: According to ESPN, he's closing in on his season.

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Speaker 8: Debut and his goal is to be back at.

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Speaker 1: Some point this week.

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Speaker 6: And on the ice, alex Ovechkin did score goal number

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Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty, so fifteen away from breaking wayn

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Speaker 6: Gretzky's record, fourteen away from tying and the Capitals are

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Speaker 6: beating the Oilers three to one now late in the

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Speaker 6: second period.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, Yeah, amazing name Gretzky's all time goals.

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Speaker 1: He was a facilitator first and foremost. Yes, No, his

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Speaker 1: points are ridiculous. I mean the assists that he has

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Speaker 1: are way off the charge. I think he has over

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Speaker 1: twenty eight hundred points.

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Speaker 6: It's something like that.

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Speaker 1: It's really weird in hockey. Why is a goal and

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Speaker 1: an assist considered the same exact thing? One yeah, pointed

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Speaker 1: the same, yet it rated the same.

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Speaker 6: He is really two and fifty seven career points, the

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Speaker 6: assist is one thousand, nine hundred and sixty three.

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Speaker 3: It is unrare.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so when we talk about he is crazy.

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Speaker 1: It is an all time goal scorer. That wasn't his gate, right,

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Speaker 1: It was more of a facilitator than he was a

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Speaker 1: goal scored.

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Speaker 3: Well, and also you got to remember late in his career,

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Speaker 3: Gretzky he was drawing so much attention with the puck

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Speaker 3: in his stick that.

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Speaker 2: I mean there was always somebody open.

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Speaker 3: I guess at the point I'm trying to make so

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Speaker 3: like the defense shifted toward him on the ice and

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Speaker 3: he could find somebody and who was a skillful passer,

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Speaker 3: and so the all.

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Speaker 1: Timer, I mean he again he saw things. Well, we

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Speaker 1: talked about this in basketball, right when you talk about

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Speaker 1: the magic Johnson's, when you talk about a Luka, Doncic

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Speaker 1: or Lebron, they know where the other nine players on

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Speaker 1: the court are at all times, at all times, and

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Speaker 1: so they can make passes. And this is how the

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Speaker 1: genius of Gretzky, I mean was unreal. The best with

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Speaker 1: Gretzky is when he would set up behind the net

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Speaker 1: and he could it was just unreal. I mean, this

496
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Speaker 1: guy could see things literally that no one has ever

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Speaker 1: seen in the history. But for Rovetchkin be obviously a

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Speaker 1: great record once he does get that record from most

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Speaker 1: career goals in the NHL. All right, Mantzi, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you a little bit later on once again Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Sunday. We are alive from the tire rack dot

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Speaker 1: Com studios. All right, Richie, I want to switch gears

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Speaker 1: for a moment here about a story that I think

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Speaker 1: has been misinterpreted by some people in the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: that is this Matthew Stafford story. So even last night

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Speaker 1: and again I'm doing television Los Angeles. My producers are

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Speaker 1: writing it up. Are the Rams actively trying to get

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Speaker 1: rid of Matthew Stafford? And I said, okay, let's take

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Speaker 1: a step back on this.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Here's what's happening with Matthew Stafford. So he's thirty seven

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Speaker 1: years old and he has two years remaining on his deal,

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Speaker 1: but only four million is guaranteed. So obviously his agent

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Speaker 1: comes in saying, you know, we'd like to lock some

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Speaker 1: guaranteed money. Understandable. And by the way, right now, Stafford,

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Speaker 1: remember when Stafford was like the highest paid quarterback, he's

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Speaker 1: like fifteenth. Now, that's how the money has grown at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position. So he walks in with less Need

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Speaker 1: and says, all right, here's what we're looking for. And

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Speaker 1: Sneed's like, that's not happening, eh, and so but Sneve goes,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, why don't you market go out

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Speaker 1: and sort of get a feel for the market. Right now,

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Speaker 1: We'll let you. You know, you want to talk to

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Speaker 1: other teams about what kind of money they would be offering,

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Speaker 1: and then once you do that, come back to us. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So you think like we're low balling you, we don't

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Speaker 1: think so we're offering what we believe is the market value.

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Speaker 1: But if you can find a better deal, you know.

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Speaker 2: Go for it.

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Speaker 1: That kind of thing. That's really what this is about.

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Speaker 1: This isn't about, oh well, they are not going to

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Speaker 1: bring back Matthew Stafford. My guess is they are. I mean,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this question, who would you rather

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Speaker 1: have as the quarterback of the Rams in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford or Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: I mean Matthew Stafford for sure.

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Speaker 1: Right right. I mean he's in the system. He and

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay have built it over four years, by the way,

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Speaker 1: after winning the Super Bowl the first year and then

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously injuries the second year, back to back

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Speaker 1: playoff runs. I mean, they were more competitive, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: against the Eagles than the other two teams after them.

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Speaker 1: So they're in a pretty good place right now. They've

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Speaker 1: drafted well, you know, Jared Versus was defensive Rookie of

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Speaker 1: the Year. I mean, they've got a lot of pieces

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Speaker 1: in place. But you understand how this is. But everyone's like,

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Speaker 1: are they getting rid of them? This is this is

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Speaker 1: some smart marketing from the Rams standpoint in terms of look,

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Speaker 1: let's let's do what's best for everyone. But you're you're

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Speaker 1: overinflating your quarterback's value, especially considering his age at thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that Matthew Stafford still has a lot

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Speaker 3: of good football left.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I think that two to three years, I would say

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Speaker 2: that's fair. Aaron Rodgers, I.

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Speaker 3: Think we are witnessing the decline and whether or not

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Speaker 3: there is a blip in the right direction, meaning like

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Speaker 3: say next season, whatever team he plays for, he all

560
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Speaker 3: of a sudden has a resurgence, I think it'll be

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Speaker 3: much more short lived in terms of success rate over

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Speaker 3: time than what we'll see down the stretch of Matthew

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Speaker 3: Stafford's career. I think that I think that that comparison,

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Speaker 3: although maybe unfair because we're talking about a younger player

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Speaker 3: in Stafford, I think that's the reality here.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean, maybe the Rams got

567
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Speaker 2: a bigger plan than we're seeing right now.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they have belief in their quarterback room that was

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Speaker 3: in place last year.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's maybe there's.

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Speaker 3: No I mean, could you see Garoppolo taking over as

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Speaker 3: a season long starter? Could you see a situation where

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Speaker 3: he's a bridge quarterback and they like somebody in the

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Speaker 3: draft right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, get this team was coming off a five and

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Speaker 1: twelve season. I'd say, Okay, yeah, you're not. You've been

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs the last two years. In fact, both

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Speaker 1: those years they played their better football in the second

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Speaker 1: half of the season. You have a quarterback that obviously

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay is very comfortable with in Stafford. You're getting

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Speaker 1: rid of Cooper cop Fine, you're gonna cut him off

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Speaker 1: the but this is not this is This is a

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Speaker 1: team right now, in my opinion, is the best team

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Speaker 1: in that division. Is Matthew Stafford a better quarterback than

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Speaker 1: Brock Purty, Yes he is. I think the Rams are

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Speaker 1: in a prime position to take over the NFC. Well,

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Speaker 1: they just won the division, so I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: see any let up in twenty twenty five. Again, I'm

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Speaker 1: not looking five years down the road, but I am

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Speaker 1: looking over the next couple of years, and I think

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Speaker 1: the Rams are very competitive on the NFC side. So

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Speaker 1: it makes no sense. Let me give you got the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position at this point.

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Speaker 3: Let me give you a reason why it makes sense,

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Speaker 3: and see if you can wrap your head around this,

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Speaker 3: because look, I'm guessing on the fly here because we'll

597
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Speaker 3: never know. We will never know. But thinking about it

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Speaker 3: for a second, if Matthew Stafford at his age is

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Speaker 3: a cap hit that you're no longer willing to absorb

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Speaker 3: because you look around the division and you say, like,

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Speaker 3: like you just pointed out that it's a downtime in

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Speaker 3: the division. The Cardinals are still still figuring it out.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Seahawks are in a great spot there.

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Speaker 3: They just cut their teeth with the new head coach.

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Speaker 3: Gino Smith is still a question mark as a veteran starter.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he had a nice season, but it wasn't

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Speaker 3: a great season. Brock Purdy, I think, is a very

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Speaker 3: similar situation to Gino Smith, although he's really at the

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Speaker 3: start of his career.

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Speaker 2: Geno Smith is.

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Speaker 3: You know's got a lot more yesterday's log than than

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Speaker 3: tomorrow's in this league. But they're unsure of how how

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Speaker 3: much commitment they want to make with Brock, they'll figure

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Speaker 3: that out. So when you when you dial it back

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Speaker 3: to the Rams, they're thinking to themselves like, if we're

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Speaker 3: going to rebuild, now's the time because we can still

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Speaker 3: be competitive in this division through a rebuild because nobody

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Speaker 3: has emerged as like a great team and and potentially

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Speaker 3: even who knows.

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Speaker 2: I mean, things work out funny ways.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes if it's a down yere for the division, maybe

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Speaker 3: they still find a way to battle into the first

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Speaker 3: spot and get another postseason berth, even though they've moved

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Speaker 3: on from their quarterback with no immediate successor plan in place.

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Speaker 1: All right, but I love I like where you're going.

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Speaker 1: I love playing the game, right yeah, Okay, So they're

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Speaker 1: talking about the New York Giants. Okay, okay, okay, let's

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Speaker 1: say the New York Giants, because remember, you're going to

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Speaker 1: have to trade for him and you have to pay him. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: So the idea is you have to you know, make

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Speaker 1: a deal for Stafford and then you have to trade

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Speaker 1: him so or pay him. So I'm looking at the

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Speaker 1: Giants and all of a sudden, the agent for Matthew

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Speaker 1: Stafford comes back and saying, yeah, we like to go

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Speaker 1: to the Giants, so less needs. Like great, right, let's

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Speaker 1: call the Giants right now. Yeah, we want your first

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Speaker 1: round pick. Hold on it. We're not going to give

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Speaker 1: up a potential top ten pick in the draft for

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Speaker 1: a thirty seven year old quarterback. Really, I guess no deal.

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Speaker 1: I guess you could try to push it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And where exactly does that take the Giant? Did you

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Speaker 1: add Matthew Stafford all of a sudden you're in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs in that division?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Where the Cowboys now are a third distant third behind

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Speaker 1: the Commanders in the Eagles. That doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: You know, It's so funny. We were talking about Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: right and saying, well, does it make any sense for

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to go to a team that really has

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Speaker 1: no chance of contending, like let's say the Raiders. Why

651
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Speaker 1: would he do that unless he's just looking for a payday?

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Speaker 1: And now you would take all those teams and insert

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Speaker 1: Stafford because Stafford is younger and right now better quarterback.

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Speaker 1: None of it makes any sense. And if you're the Rams,

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Speaker 1: look we're not just going to give you Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 1: I mean, would you give up Matthew Stafford for a

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Speaker 1: second round pick at this point of his career? Does that?

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 9: What?

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Speaker 1: Where? And leaving yourself literally with no quarterback with what

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Speaker 1: are your options signing Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem. Here's the problem.

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Speaker 3: A quarterback or any asset you own, whether we're talking

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Speaker 3: about a quarterback or a or it doesn't matter any

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Speaker 3: asset a car. It's only worth what somebody will pay

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Speaker 3: for it. So, if you look around the league right now,

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Speaker 3: and there's a lot of teams that are looking to

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Speaker 3: get younger at the quarterback position or get less expensive

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Speaker 3: depending on what teams are shopping quarterbacks, maybe onboarding a

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Speaker 3: player like Matthew Stafford is not the move for a

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Speaker 3: lot of these teams, and so maybe the best you

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Speaker 3: can get for Stafford in a market like this is

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Speaker 3: a second rounder. And so then you have to ask yourself, Okay,

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Speaker 3: is this about what we're paying Stafford? Or is this

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Speaker 3: about our future? Is this about whether we like Stafford?

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Speaker 3: Or is this about our future? Is this about next season,

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five regular season, or is this about

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Speaker 3: what's down the line for us? You have to come

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Speaker 3: up with those decisions before you even address how much

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Speaker 3: you'll let him go for, because the front, to be

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Speaker 3: perfectly honest with you, if you let him go for

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Speaker 3: a second rounder and then he goes somewhere else and

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Speaker 3: has a rebirth for a couple of years, it may

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Speaker 3: still justify the move. Years later, when you've moved on

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Speaker 3: to another talented, successful quarterback and you've entered a new era,

686
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Speaker 3: you just have to make sure you get it right

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Speaker 3: with whichever the next quarterback is who you bring through

688
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Speaker 3: the doors. Otherwise the fans are going to be pissed

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Speaker 3: that you moved on from Stafford.

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Speaker 1: NFL combine gets started on Thursday. Does it still have

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Speaker 1: the same impact it had in years past. We'll tell

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Speaker 1: you why. The answer is yes. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Is he coming on? Is he coming on? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: that Selection Sunday, Selection Sunday. Yeah, I get ready for

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Speaker 1: a little march madness. Rich, the NFL combine is starting on.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to our buddy Adam Kaplan yesterday and

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Speaker 1: I asked him, because he's been covering it for years,

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Speaker 1: I go, does this have the same impact? He goes, oh, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because and for the things we've talked about, Rich, it's

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Speaker 1: not about the made for TV you know, standing broad jump,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how many times in an

725
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Speaker 1: actual game did you do a standing broad jump?

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Speaker 2: Never? Not once? Not once?

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Speaker 3: I don't mean I guess, I guess I would say

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Speaker 3: on the run, I've tried to leap over a pile, yeah,

729
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Speaker 3: many times, or or how high you.

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Speaker 1: Can jump, you know, the kind of stuff that's made

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Speaker 1: for TV stuff. But he said, the one thing that

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Speaker 1: is still vital are those physicals.

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Speaker 3: The physicals in the interview, right, are undoubtedly the most

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Speaker 3: valuable part of the NFL combine. So when you interview

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Speaker 3: a player, you get inside their head. You get ten minutes,

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Speaker 3: fifteen minutes, twenty minutes, whatever you're allotted with each of

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Speaker 3: these players, and that amount of time you can make

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Speaker 3: a couple of pretty good determinations. I mean, let's let's

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Speaker 3: face it. Well, you're out. You know, you're having a

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Speaker 3: you're out with your buddies and you're a guy or

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Speaker 3: a gal. Right, you know you're a single lady or

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Speaker 3: single guy. You know you're you're maybe searching for some something.

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Speaker 3: You find, you find somebody look at you from across

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Speaker 3: the bark. Maybe you only have a ten minute conversation, right,

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Speaker 3: and you're making a determination, right, there, I'm gonna give

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Speaker 3: this uh, this lady or this guy's number. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: we're gonna start something here because this felt special. There

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Speaker 3: was a connection, and sometimes those instances where you only

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Speaker 3: had ten minutes, it can result in a happy marriage,

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Speaker 3: you know, a lifelong commitment together, you know, family, all

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Speaker 3: those things.

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Speaker 2: Ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: You can learn a lot about somebody in ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: So that interview process steve at the combine. If you're

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Speaker 3: a good interviewer, if your team's good judge of character, commitment,

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Speaker 3: resolve all those things. That's the reason why they still

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Speaker 3: show up for the combines.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and again when we talk about these physicals, when

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Speaker 1: you consider the financial investment, you need to know everything

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Speaker 1: possible about the physical condition of these players. So once

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Speaker 1: again we'll get into the combines and looking forward to that,

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Speaker 1: I just you know, just to keep the NFL motor running,

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Speaker 1: which is well, I mean it runs three hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty five days. Yere again the most watched Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: of all time. Rich By the way, the metrics they

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Speaker 1: use now to gauge the audience changed this year, which

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Speaker 1: in some respects really helped the Super Bowl, you know,

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Speaker 1: you were like, really there were more people watching a

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Speaker 1: game that was over at halftime. Unfortunately, the same metrics

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Speaker 1: did not help the NBA All Star Game, where the

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Speaker 1: ratings were down even the system is set up for

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Speaker 1: I don't know, is there anything the NBA can take

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Speaker 1: away from the NFL to try to fix this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some things we could get into that. There

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Speaker 3: are definitely some things the NBA could learn from the NFL.

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Speaker 3: There's there's some things about the NFL that a lot

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Speaker 3: of sports could benefit from if they make a couple

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Speaker 1: All right, we got some more coming up here on

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Speaker 1: He's also like a hockey insider, anxious to get his

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Speaker 1: take on what happened with that Four Nations tournament. That

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Speaker 1: going to be joining us here in about twenty minutes, Richie.

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Speaker 1: Today at poly Pavilion, UCLA will be taken on Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: I'm still like hurting after UCLA lost that game the

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Speaker 1: other day to Minnesota at home.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was brutal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how about missing eight straight free throws at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game. You do that in the tournament?

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Speaker 1: Bye bye? Anyway, But the big story isn't so much

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Speaker 1: the game, it's what's happening before the game, as they're

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Speaker 1: going to be honoring the late great Bill Walton. It's

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Speaker 1: still hard for me to understand Bill having passed away.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's sort of an overused cliche. Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's one of a kind. You know, we hear that

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Speaker 1: a lot, right, Oh, one of it. We're all one

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Speaker 1: of a kind. Okay, let me make that clear. But

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Speaker 1: there are certain individuals that are so unique in their

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Speaker 1: Bill Walton was definitely one of those. You know, I

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Speaker 1: was fortunate to get to no Bill a little bit

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Speaker 1: over the years. I hated him when he was at UCLA,

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Speaker 1: you know, because I was a US. He diehard as

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Speaker 1: a kid because my dad went to USC And you

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Speaker 1: know this is at the height when they won eighty

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Speaker 1: eight straight games. I mean, he was such a dominant player.

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Speaker 1: But over the years getting to know this guy and

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Speaker 1: he in fact, he started his radio career at Rich

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Speaker 1: really on our station, the new six ninety station, the

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Speaker 1: first West Coast sports station, many many years ago, and

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Speaker 1: I would do a show with him. He had a

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Speaker 1: bad stuttering problem, and so he was going working with

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Speaker 1: this sort of like the speech person to sort of

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Speaker 1: slow things down and help him with his speech. And

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Speaker 1: he would come on the radio show. We would host

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Speaker 1: a show together and he would work on things to

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Speaker 1: try it. And then he got hired by the Clippers,

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Speaker 1: the first team to hire him as an analyst. And

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Speaker 1: of course after that, as people used to kid about Bill.

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Speaker 1: First of all, he couldn't get two words out of

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Speaker 1: his mouth. Then he couldn't shut the guy up. I mean,

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Speaker 1: once he got rolling there was. So he was the

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Speaker 1: kind of guy that you would bring him on for

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Speaker 1: an interview and you would ask him a question. It

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Speaker 1: to go off on his own tangent right. Absolutely loved

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Speaker 1: him and I miss him already. But it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a nice ceremony today, apparently before the game, as they're

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Speaker 1: going to honor. Obviously, I think most people would agree

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Speaker 1: that the two most dominant college basketball players of all

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Speaker 1: time were Kareem known as Luel Sindor during his UCLA days,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Walton. These were the two most dominant players

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Speaker 1: in the history of college basketball.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt when you were talking about him being

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Speaker 3: one of a kind, I do understand your point, But

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Speaker 3: there was and will never ever be anyone like Bill Walton. Again,

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Speaker 3: you meet certain people and you're like, oh, I've seen

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Speaker 3: this type before. You know, you're walking around a party

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Speaker 3: of social gathering and maybe they work in finance, and

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Speaker 3: you know that it's kind of you know, their whole

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Speaker 3: personality or yeah, and I'm not even attacking that realm, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, but like there are certain people who just

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Speaker 3: sort of, you know, they're they're They're just who they are,

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Speaker 3: and you've met them a thousand times before, and it

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Speaker 3: doesn't make them boring necessarily, it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Make them ordinary.

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Speaker 3: It just it just makes them a common experience for you,

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Speaker 3: for you, like you know, because you've had that conversation before.

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Speaker 3: But if you ever got an opportunity to talk to Bill,

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Speaker 3: and I know you have many times, I did, you

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Speaker 3: know a few times throughout my my time here in

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Speaker 3: San Diego. Man, I'll tell you he was the type

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Speaker 3: of person who talking to him. Starting a conversation with

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Speaker 3: him was an odyssey. You have no idea where you

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Speaker 3: were going, and you just you just knew you were coming.

869
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: Back to port eventually. It was incredible.

870
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: He truly was an incredible player, and he turned into

871
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: a legendary broadcast I think broadcaster.

872
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean his broadcasting. I mean, you've been doing this

873
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: for quite a while now as an analyst for San

874
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: Diego State and other places as well, and when you

875
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: hear him, I mean, look, he wasn't everybody's cup of tea.

876
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: I get that. I mean there were a lot of

877
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: people that were turned off, but I mean he was,

878
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: like I've said, over the over the many years that

879
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: I've been watching television sports. I mean maybe a handful

880
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: of analysts where you actually watch an event specifically to

881
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: hear what they had to say. John Madden was that

882
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: person way back in the day. Howard Cosell in the

883
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: early days of Monday night football. I think Charles Barklay

884
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: now more of an analyst, you know, in the studio

885
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: analyst and a game analyst, is one of those people

886
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: I want to hear what he has to say. But

887
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: I mean that was Bill Walton. I mean he just

888
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: you did not know where he was going to go.

889
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he'd be broadcasting a game and he's taking

890
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: you off to I don't know, seventeenth century literature.

891
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it could go anywhere, anywhere.

892
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: Anywhere, and you know, pe would say, he just looks

893
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: like he's having a good time, and that was the thing.

894
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: You know, he had a lot of physical problems. It's

895
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: obviously shortened his basketball career unfortunately. I mean when you

896
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: think about he had just started clicking with Portland. If

897
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: you never saw Bill Walton play YouTube it, I mean,

898
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: if you watch the nineteen seventy seven NBA Finals with

899
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: the Portland Trailblazers, they lost the first two games to

900
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: Doctor Jay's Philadelphia seventy six ers, and then rattled off

901
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: four straight. But if you want to understand what made

902
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: Bill Walton that great, watch this man play. I mean

903
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: it was unreal. I mean, again we talk about basketball IQs.

904
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: Bill Walton was a three time scholar at All American

905
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: at UCLA on top of everything else, but his vision

906
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: on the court as a big man was crazy. I

907
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: mean just absolutely there was there was a purpose to

908
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: everything he did. I mean, we talked about Jokis, right,

909
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: Nicola Jokich like last night, but normally Jokis is one

910
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: of the those guys it just seems to understand how

911
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: to play the game. And that was Bill Walton. And

912
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: he was mobile, I mean, rebounding, passing the ball. I

913
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: mean he could have scored. I mean the one NCAA

914
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: Championship game where he scored forty four points on twenty

915
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: one of twenty two shooting. By the way, there was

916
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: no dunking in those days. Dunking was not legal at

917
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: the collegiate level back in those days, So twenty one

918
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: out of twenty two shooting without any dunks as a

919
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: big man, it was just unfortunate. About these injuries, and

920
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: yet despite a lot of physical pains that he went through,

921
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: it never demean never got him down. I mean, he

922
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: had such a positive outlook on everything it came across

923
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: as a broadcaster, and that's exactly who he was.

924
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, rest in peace.

925
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: A career well lived, both on the court and aside

926
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: the court broadcasting.

927
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: There's no question about it.

928
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 3: And you know what's interesting about talking about Bill Walton,

929
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: you know, projecting forward to the time we're in because

930
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: we mentioned it last week. We were talking about it

931
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 3: a little bit, Steve, and when we were discussing Bill,

932
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 3: I kept thinking about the way basketball was played then

933
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: compared to now. And now, obviously we're talking about decades apart.

934
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 3: We're talking about what feels like one hundred years ago

935
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 3: talking about basketball when you know, lou al Cinder and

936
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: Bill Walton were in college, but we are miles and

937
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: miles away from that time. That time was all about defense.

938
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: It was all about scoring or getting the ball as

939
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 3: close to the basket as possible for high percentage shots.

940
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: And we have moved on to this analytical age with

941
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: the advent of the three point shot and the impact

942
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 3: it's had on especially the professional level, to where volume

943
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: shooting from the perimeter has become a viable way to

944
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: win basketball games. To Bill a roster, and we're into

945
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: that era of basketball now where you know, it shifts

946
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: back and forth a little bit, but it really does

947
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: feel like the game is going to be played further

948
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 3: and further away from the hoop, and I'm not sure

949
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 3: that's great for the game either.

950
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: You want to hear a stat. He is one of

951
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: my favorite Bill Walton's stats. Starting in grade school until

952
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: his senior year, when UCLA's eighty eight game winning streak

953
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: actually was ended, he won one hundred and twenty eight

954
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: straight games. One hundred and twenty eight straight games. Wow,

955
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: I think I just think about that for a second.

956
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: A hundred and from grade school until his senior at college,

957
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty eight straight wins.

958
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: Jeez, I mean it was just I mean, it was

959
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 3: it doesn't even seem real.

960
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem real, right, Yeah, And but that I

961
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: just again, he had this enthusiasm accord. He was always

962
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: umping up and down. He's, you know, with one of

963
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: those live wires. And then he was a deadhead, you know,

964
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: he was you know, absolutely he made no bones about

965
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: It was so funny because when he was at UCLA,

966
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: John Wooden had very strict rules about facial hair and

967
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: hair length and everything else. Uh, and then as soon

968
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: as he got to the NBA, he grew the full beard.

969
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, it was like the mountain man, right, your

970
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: long hair, the ponytail, everything else, everything you wanted to

971
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: be did not diminish what he did on the court,

972
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: but one healthy and unfortunately it was a very short

973
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: time that he was at that level in the NBA.

974
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: There was nothing better. I mean, he just he just

975
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: knew how to play the game and uh and brought

976
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: and he was one of those guys. Part of being

977
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: a great player is raising the game of your teammates, right,

978
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: we talk about that all the time. You know, like

979
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: a like a Tom Brady, a quarterback suddenly can make

980
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: a Julian Edelman or a Wes Welker into an All Pro.

981
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: That's that's the power of truly being a great place.

982
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: That was Bill Walton. I mean, he just everybody's game

983
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: was raised with him on the court.

984
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I think that you can make

985
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: the argument we've seen players like that on the court

986
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: in the modern era I think that sure.

987
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 2: Steph Curry is one of those players. He's a glue guy.

988
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 3: He's an ultimate leader because he's willing to take a

989
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: back seat for the betterment of the team. He knows

990
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 3: his role and he plays it perfectly. Lebron James, for

991
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: as much as much hate as he receives it as

992
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: polarizing as he is, he's a chameleon man. He can

993
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 3: make a way for it to work with Dwayne Wade

994
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: and Chris Bosh, and he can make away from it

995
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 3: to work with Kyrie and Kevin Love. And he can

996
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 3: make a way to make it work with a d

997
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: in La you know. I mean, now we're onto the

998
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: Luca phase. We'll see how it goes. But I mean

999
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 3: Lebron James is another one of those players like the

1000
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: greats Jordan, you can go through the list, Kobe, you know,

1001
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 3: with Pow and with Shaq, Like they're guys who doesn't

1002
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: matter who you surround them with. They're gonna find a

1003
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 3: way to win because they have the killer instinct themselves,

1004
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: but also they understand the sacrifices that they may need

1005
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 3: to make individually in order to make the whole thing go.

1006
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: And Bill Walton, he was like that.

1007
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: A Kareem, especially late in his career when he made

1008
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 3: way for magic, was like that, you know. And the

1009
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 3: and the guys who I mentioned in the modern era,

1010
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 3: like Lebron, like Steph, the champions of this modern era, Kobe,

1011
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 3: they they truly knew how to do that too.

1012
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: All right, Coming up on the other side, a dear

1013
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: friend of ours, we will be joining us every single Sunday.

1014
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: They're great, John Palmer ROSSI will talk a little spring training,

1015
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: we get into the well, the Four Nations, a very

1016
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: successful NHL event. He will join us right here on

1017
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Oberger. Here Fox Sports Sunday.

1018
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: We are live from the tire rack dot Com studio.

1019
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: So Richie, we have a number of people that we

1020
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: have shared time with over these many years we have

1021
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: broadcast together, but there are few, if any, the match,

1022
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: the talent, the impact, the love that we have for him.

1023
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: Then the great John Palmerrosi, JP, how are you today.

1024
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 9: Steven rich I am doing great. What a wonderful time

1025
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 9: of year. By the way, we've got as we know

1026
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 9: as daa tournament time is starting to get near. We've

1027
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 9: got this amazing four Nations face off to talk about

1028
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 9: with the NHL, and then spring trading ball is underway.

1029
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 9: So I am thrilled in every which way.

1030
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna get this out of way because

1031
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk plenty about spring training, but I want

1032
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: to talk about this four nations tournament we just had

1033
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: in the NHL. Wildly successful. Wildly successful. I mean, now

1034
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden people are saying, well, the NBA

1035
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: should do an international versus America. It doesn't work. It's

1036
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: different than the NHL, but give it. Give us a

1037
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: little because you're knee deep obviously into the hockey scene.

1038
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: Why did this work so well?

1039
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 9: Great question. I think there's a few reasons why. Number One,

1040
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 9: the overall talent in the game right now is at

1041
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 9: such a high level, and so you've got this high

1042
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 9: level of talent. When you put on the national team sweater,

1043
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 9: you get the best version of these players because they're

1044
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 9: playing for something bigger than theirselves. And then I think

1045
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 9: the other piece of it is is how long it

1046
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 9: had been since we had it true best on best competition.

1047
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 9: It was since the twenty sixteen World Cup, and in

1048
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 9: a lot of ways that team had team Europe and

1049
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 9: Team North America.

1050
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: So the last.

1051
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 9: True best on best like this. Of course it was

1052
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 9: a bigger tournament, but that was the Olympics from Sochi, Russia,

1053
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 9: back in twenty fourteen. So it's been so long since

1054
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 9: we had an event like this, and we wanted to

1055
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 9: see these generational talents like McDavid and Matthews play for

1056
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 9: the country. So I think that was piece of it.

1057
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 9: But I'll make this big picture point, and I know

1058
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 9: it's been discussed a little bit. Hockey has such a

1059
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 9: buy in, I think, especially for the European player, but

1060
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 9: now it's increasingly true for the US and the Canadian

1061
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 9: players that playing for your country is more important in

1062
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 9: a lot of ways than even winning the Stanley Cup.

1063
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 9: It is that big because it encapsulates the full country.

1064
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 9: And yes, I think there's a lot of national pride

1065
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 9: stake all the way around during this particular tournament, but

1066
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 9: it really does much more so like soccer, where winning

1067
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 9: the World Cup is the apex of your sport, more

1068
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 9: so than perhaps winning the league championship in England or

1069
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 9: in Germany or even in North America. The World Cup

1070
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 9: is predominant in soccer. The same thing is true in hockey,

1071
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 9: and I think that this last tournament was a huge

1072
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 9: reminder about why that's part of the culture of the

1073
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 9: sport and why I think a lot of us who

1074
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 9: love the game just cannot wait for next year's Olympic

1075
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 9: Games in Milano Cortina, Italy.

1076
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: I love it.

1077
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 3: I love it so much, JPA. I was fully invested.

1078
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 3: It was a blast. That finale was awesome. The US

1079
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: and Canada really set the tone in that game where

1080
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 3: they started the first period just dropping gloves and hammering

1081
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 3: it out.

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00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: I love That's.

1083
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 3: Such a unique and interesting part about hockey, where amongst

1084
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: all the team sports we enjoy in this country and

1085
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 3: frankly in Canada as well, that's only one where they

1086
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: actually allow you to duke it out a little bit.

1087
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: And it's a part of the game, it's a part

1088
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: of the culture.

1089
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 3: And then on the other side of that, there's a

1090
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 3: tremendous amount of respect for the athleticism and the grace

1091
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 3: and the beauty of the game. You know, I'm gonna

1092
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: I'm just going to compare it because they were right

1093
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 3: next to each other, and the comparison has been made

1094
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 3: many times over the last two weeks. But I'm curious

1095
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 3: your thoughts. The NBA, they're struggling with their All Star weekend.

1096
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 3: Viewership ratings have continued to plummet. Players are getting upset

1097
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 3: with the constant narrative that these overpaid players aren't showing

1098
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 3: up for the fans. Can can hockey or should say,

1099
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 3: can basketball steal what special hockey to make their All

1100
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: Star weekend better?

1101
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: Or do you think it's unique to the game on ice?

1102
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 9: You know, it's a great question. I've long said that

1103
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 9: if that in Major League Baseball, and maybe maybe the

1104
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 9: success of four Nations would perhaps bring this conversation to

1105
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 9: the forefront. What if we had a four team mini

1106
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 9: tournament like this at the All Star break from Major

1107
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 9: League Baseball and you had, let's just say team USA,

1108
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 9: Dominican Republic, Japan, Puerto Rico, or mix in Venezuela, Mexico,

1109
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 9: however you wanted to do it, but the same idea

1110
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 9: that you have an elongated All Star break and you

1111
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 9: play what amounted to the Metal Round of the WBC

1112
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 9: in the span of a week in July, and I

1113
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 9: think that would do phenomenally well. I think part of it, too,

1114
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 9: I think rich, is that as a sports world, we

1115
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 9: are now to the point where we want to find

1116
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 9: meaning in the competition. And this was up to the

1117
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 9: hockey players themselves to say, listen, we're all going to

1118
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 9: be here. Nobody's opting out unless they're tremendously hurt, which

1119
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 9: is the case for Quinn Hughes and s Theodore got injured,

1120
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 9: Charlie macivoy got injured. These guys were laying their bodies

1121
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 9: on the line again for something bigger than yourself, which

1122
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 9: is playing for your country. That is part of the

1123
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 9: culture that's ingrained in the National Hockey League and for

1124
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 9: hockey players now in fairness, the NBA, they have that

1125
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 9: when we see it at the Olympics, where where especially

1126
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 9: you go back to the the Lebron and Kobe era

1127
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 9: from after the four Olympic loss when they started coming

1128
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 9: back in for Beijing, and to me it's a really

1129
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 9: interesting dynamic of the way that these different competitions go.

1130
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 9: You need to have a why, You need to have

1131
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 9: a reason, and so for the NBA, if you're able

1132
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 9: to find a turn on whether it is the US

1133
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 9: against the world, there needs to be a reason and

1134
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 9: to compel thing that you're competing for to I think

1135
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 9: create that competitive dynamic, and it really it gets down

1136
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 9: to the buying of the players. The All Star Game

1137
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 9: can be as great as the players want it to be,

1138
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 9: but it's incumbent on them to really sell the show.

1139
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 9: And I think for the NBA, it's been a struggle.

1140
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 9: For the NHL. When they dropped the gloves three times

1141
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 9: in nine seconds, that did all you needed to know,

1142
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 9: I think, to set the tone for this tournament in

1143
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 9: that game in Montreal a couple saturdays ago.

1144
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's turn to baseball for a moment here.

1145
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 1: So one of the things that we are seeing very

1146
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: early on in these spring training games is the ability

1147
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: to challenge balls and strikes. And this is something we've

1148
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: been talking about. Look, I've had an extreme stance on

1149
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: this for years, I mean for years. Rich knows this.

1150
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: I've talked for the banishment of umpires forever, because unlike

1151
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: football where penalties are called, unlike basketball where fouls are called,

1152
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: in baseball it's ball, strike, safe, out, fair, foul. All

1153
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: of that can be done electronically. So I'm watching yesterday

1154
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: a Padre's game where a pitch and was a borderline

1155
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: pitch low in the strike zone, catcher turns around, challenges it,

1156
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden on the screen you're seeing

1157
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: a strike zone I assume the perfect strike zone and

1158
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: the pitch. Actually it's like intennis, right. They show the

1159
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: replay and you see the ball barely touches the line,

1160
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: meaning it's a strike, and they changed the call. Now,

1161
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: this is not going to be implemented in the regular

1162
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: season yet, but how close are we to? All Right,

1163
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: so maybe you have umpires in the field, but the

1164
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: idea that balls and strikes are done electronically instead of

1165
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: an umpire trying to figure it out standing behind the catcher.

1166
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 9: I don't think Steve, that we're ever going to get

1167
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 9: to a point where it is completely done in an

1168
01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 9: automated method all the time. And honestly, that is I'm

1169
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 9: in agreement with that notion that we would not ever

1170
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 9: get to the full automated strike zone. The interesting thing

1171
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 9: that you're talking about here is I think it going

1172
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 9: to be a fascinating thing honestly for people like for

1173
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 9: our network at MLB network or Fox or TNT, ESPN

1174
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 9: and the local channels. For sure, we're going to have

1175
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 9: to do a good job of explaining for the viewer

1176
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 9: what the strike zone is and in fact, in my opinion,

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01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 9: if we've got this happening where you can challenge, it's

1178
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 9: actually better and hear me out on this is maybe

1179
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 9: a bit of a controversial take, but I think it's

1180
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 9: the right way if we no longer have the strike

1181
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 9: zone depicted on the screen any longer. And here's why,

1182
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 9: because you as a network are not going to be

1183
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 9: able to dynamically present to the viewer the accurate strike

1184
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 9: zon zone for every player because it is going to

1185
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 9: change based on their heights, right, and so you'd be

1186
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 9: giving the viewer at home, in my opinion, false information

1187
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 9: about how it clips that middle part of the zone

1188
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 9: because it's going to be contingent on Aaron Judge having

1189
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 9: a different strike zone than Hoseel Tuo Bay. And do

1190
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 9: you really want your graphics department to have to all

1191
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 9: of a sudden throw up a different box every time

1192
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 9: and then hope that everybody who's doing these games is

1193
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 9: going to have the right box up there when there's

1194
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 9: a pinch hitter. It's just it's asking too much, I

1195
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 9: think of the TV networks. So I almost think this,

1196
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 9: if we're going to make this happen, we've got to

1197
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 9: go back to the future with how we show the games,

1198
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 9: take the strike zone off of the screen, and then

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01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 9: if there's a challenge, we will all find out together.

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01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 9: When when the challenge is made, we'll take probably ten seconds,

1201
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 9: they'll put it up on the screen. They'll all find

1202
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 9: out together, fall strike, whatever it is.

1203
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 4: And that's how we do it.

1204
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 9: But I think I like the challenge system. I don't

1205
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 9: think that we should remove the human element of the

1206
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 9: umpire from the conversation. And that's what we should do.

1207
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 9: Have your couple challenges the game, and no longer should

1208
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 9: we be able to see exactly what the scannerd strike

1209
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 9: zone is because it's not going to be the correct

1210
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 9: strike zone for everybody.

1211
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: JP.

1212
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 3: What do you say to the a dejected baseball fan

1213
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: who looks at what the Dodgers have done with their

1214
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 3: salary cap and offsetting payments to star players and just

1215
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 3: the amount of money they've shelled out over a very

1216
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 3: short amount of time and the recent championship, who's thinking

1217
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 3: to themselves like, I root for a team in a

1218
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 3: market that can't support those types of player salaries, or

1219
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 3: I root for a team with an owner who's on

1220
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 3: the stingier side of baseball and with profit sharing, he

1221
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 3: never really has to worry about investing the way they

1222
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 3: have in LA. What do you say to that fan, Well.

1223
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 9: A couple things. Number One, the system is not perfect,

1224
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 9: and we are seeing now how the Dodgers are and

1225
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 9: let's to some extent the Mets as well. And it's

1226
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 9: not as though the Yankees are all of a sudden

1227
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 9: going into the Tampa Bay Rays mode here as well.

1228
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 9: So you still have a few big spenders at the

1229
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 9: very top of the market. That's all real, and they

1230
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 9: do have an advantage. There is no salary cap, there's

1231
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 9: no salary floor, and that is unfortunately a reality of

1232
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 9: the way the game works right now. It may so

1233
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 9: the positive side to the small market fan, I guess

1234
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 9: is twofold number one that may change in the next

1235
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 9: CBA because there is genuine concern about how the system

1236
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 9: of the game is getting played out. That's number one.

1237
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 9: Number two is check how many times the biggest spending

1238
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 9: team has won a championship since since basically the Yankees

1239
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 9: in OH nine, and I believe it's once, maybe twice.

1240
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 9: It is rare, and the Dodgers, for as inevitable as

1241
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 9: they may seem right now, as you both know well,

1242
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 9: they were one game away from getting bounced out in

1243
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 9: the first round in four games, so it's not as

1244
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 9: though they were this unbeatable force.

1245
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 10: They may seem that way now, but rare is the

1246
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 10: season in which either the biggest spender or the team

1247
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 10: that is declared to have won the offseason goes ahead

1248
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 10: and wins the World Series.

1249
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 9: So there is still so much randomness, and it's so

1250
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 9: funny to me, guys, and I love it because this

1251
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 9: is part of sports. How much we are judging the

1252
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 9: virtue of the current system based on the result of

1253
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 9: the last World Series, because it wasn't that long ago

1254
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 9: that I kept hearing the criticism from people that, oh

1255
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 9: my gosh, the baseball playoffs are too random and too

1256
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 9: many of the top seeds are losing too early in

1257
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 9: the playoffs, and it's now become this free for all,

1258
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 9: like that's almost like the NCAA tournament of the Standy Cup

1259
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 9: playoffs with all the randomness. Because we just had a

1260
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 9: Rangers Diamondbacks World Series in twenty twenty three. So let's yes,

1261
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 9: I want to lean into the people that are concerned

1262
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 9: about the and the Dodgers and Yankees, but let's not

1263
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 9: forget fifty percent of the time in the last two years. Okay,

1264
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 9: we got a Wildcard versus Wildcard World Series and the

1265
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 9: Rangers and d Backs and everybody wanted to change the

1266
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 9: whole system, and then we got Dodgers, Yankees and Sunningly.

1267
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 9: It's a different criticism right now, so I think we

1268
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 9: have to keep.

1269
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 2: That in mind.

1270
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: All right, folks, there we go, just wedding your appetite

1271
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: for the weeks ahead with the Great John Palmer ROSSI JP.

1272
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: As we had a few games under our belt and

1273
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: some of the bigger stars start actually taking the field

1274
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: in the spring training games, we'll get much more into

1275
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: the baseball scene all the way to Opening Day and beyond.

1276
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: JP are the best. We appreciate the time. We'll check

1277
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: in with you next week.

1278
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 9: I love it, Steven Ritchie And one last note. If

1279
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 9: your favorite baseball team happens to be zero to two

1280
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 9: right now in the Caxus are great Foot League, despair not.

1281
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 9: It's a long year.

1282
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: Don't worry about The Dodgers are zero and three worst

1283
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: team in baseball right now.

1284
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be the worst team in.

1285
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: Baseball, all right, j P, thanks so much, The Great

1286
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: John Paul Morosi. All right, let's find out what is

1287
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: trending right now.

1288
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 6: Yes, you know, Brandon was asking how my night went,

1289
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 6: So I had a tong.

1290
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: I understand that.

1291
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: I understand that you were in rare form today, So.

1292
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: I would love to get details how she built up

1293
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: the night. I can't. I just simply can't. But can

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Speaker 1: I can? I deem that it was what you expected,

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Speaker 1: or more so less.

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Speaker 2: What it was.

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01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 8: It was what I expected.

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01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 6: It was what I expected and what my friend expected of.

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Speaker 1: How busy it was going to get by the end

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Speaker 1: of the night.

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Speaker 6: It was very crowded, and but you know, you did

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01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 6: some dancing, and you know, I'm.

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01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: Just I love this richie. So she was giving me

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01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: two options on how she would handle the night. One

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01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: is she would just fully engage in whatever I can

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: tivities are going on, or she would be the one

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01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: that would sort of pull back a little bit. Yes,

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01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I'm tired.

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01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 6: I'm not, you know, feeling crappy because I drank too much.

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Speaker 1: That's not what happened. I'm just tired because it.

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01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 3: Was a long night.

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Speaker 6: And then I was telling Brandon, like I got home

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01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 6: not super late, but like maybe around one am, and

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01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 6: then you know the fear of oversleeping, Like I was like,

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01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 6: I'm going to miss my alarm today, like I so

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01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 6: I had like and then I don't sleep because I

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01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 6: was like.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, where's my phone?

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01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 6: At like six am, I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, I overslept. It's ten am.

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Speaker 1: And so that was my night, you guys. But it

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Speaker 1: was good. It was good. I'm just I just died.

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01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: And yet she's still been there. She still delivered every

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Speaker 1: Taco belbrone.

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01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 6: Oh well, you know again, I definitely needed the Taco

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01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,759
Speaker 6: Bell burrito when I got up this morning.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys.

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Speaker 6: The Celtics, who you know, sometimes I really don't get

1329
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 6: the Celtics in their game. They had a really good

1330
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 6: game against the Knicks. They dominated the whole time. The

1331
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 6: score is deceiving it. Final score was one eighteen to

1332
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 6: one five, but really like it never felt like the

1333
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 6: Knicks were in it. They did cut it to seven

1334
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 6: going into the fourth quarter, but the Celtics really dominated

1335
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 6: from beginning to end. Jason Tatum twenty five points, ten rebounds,

1336
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 6: nine assists all the Celtics, and double digits all their starters.

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01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,799
Speaker 6: Karl Anthony Towns twenty four points and eighteen rebounds. Something

1338
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 6: to keep an eye on. Halfway through the fourth quarter,

1339
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 6: he went in for a dunk and he missed it,

1340
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 6: and then he started limping, went to the locker room,

1341
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 6: came back in the game, but to me, he didn't

1342
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 6: look right like even when he was back in the game.

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01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 2: So something just to keep it eye on.

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01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: With Karl Anthony Towns, the.

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01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 6: Knicks might get Mitchell Robinson back sooner than we expect.

1346
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 6: ESPN is reporting that his goal is to be back

1347
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 6: at some point this week. On the ice, Alexovechkin has

1348
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 6: not scored once or twice. He has scored three times.

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Speaker 2: In today's game.

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01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 1: I had trick, had trick exactly.

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01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 6: So he's up to eight hundred and eighty two goals,

1352
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 6: thirteen away from breaking Wayne Gretzky's all time goals record.

1353
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 6: And the Capitals just crushed the Oilers. Seven to three

1354
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 6: was the final score. We'll check in on men's college

1355
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 6: hoops late in the second half. Number thirteen per Due

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01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 6: losing still to Indiana sixty nine to fifty five.

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Speaker 1: There's about two minutes to go.

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Speaker 6: With about twelve minutes to go. Number twenty two, Memphis

1359
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 6: is extending their lead over Florida State fifty nine to

1360
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 6: forty three, and number ten Saint John's already defeated Yukon

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01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 6: eighty nine two seventy five.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, all right, Monsie, you can go

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01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: back and tell Brandon Moore about you.

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01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 2: No, there's nothing more to tell.

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01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 3: There's nothing more to tell.

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01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 8: He was just like, because I went yesterday.

1367
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: I was like, my goal is to be home by midnight.

1368
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 6: And then he's like, did you make it home by midnight?

1369
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: I was like, no, me today out so and then

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01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: you stare at the clock the rest of them. Then

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01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: they stared at the clock the rest of the time.

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01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 1: I know exactly where you're coming from. All right, once again,

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01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 1: we are Fox Sports Sunday Live from the tire rag

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01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: dot Com studio is. By the way, check out the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Now there's all kinds of

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Speaker 1: great videos from many of our Fox Sports Radio shows.

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Speaker 1: Just searched Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. And

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Speaker 1: be sure to subscribe so you always have instant access

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Speaker 1: to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. You're a

1381
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: guy that likes to post a lot of stuff on

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01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 1: social media.

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01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 3: Rich, Yeah, it's it's a big part of what we

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01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 3: do now because you know, like like everybody else, our

1385
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 3: opinions sometimes are heard live live on air, and sometimes

1386
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 3: you know, people have other things going on and they

1387
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 3: want to catch up later on. So you can follow

1388
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 3: me at rich Ornberger on Instagram or at Ornberger on

1389
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 3: Twitter for all that stuff. And then Steve, you also

1390
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 3: are very active on social media.

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01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: I mean, what is social media?

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01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: I was kidd I was gonna say, you buy social media.

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01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: Actually it's everything that has been posted of me on

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01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 1: social media. I mean, you know, if you click Steve Harbin,

1395
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna see plenty of things. It's just that

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01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with them.

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Speaker 2: That's great, you know.

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01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 1: I'm like sort of like, oh, I didn't realize that

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01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: that's there. Yeah, yeah, I mean there are things on there.

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01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, I forgot that, which is rare. But anyway,

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01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: all right, I want to get back to a little

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01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: NFL talk. In fact, on the other side, we're going

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01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,759
Speaker 1: to get into, uh, some of the things that happen

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01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: at this time of the year, as you get ready

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01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: for the combine, as you get ready for free agency,

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01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: as you actually get ready for the NFL Draft, including

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01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: a decision made. Why one of the very potentially high

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01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: picks in the NFL draft who did what we call

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01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 1: an absolute no no. We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

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01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: Steve Harry, Rich Hornberger, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live

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01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: from the tairaq dot com studios. One of the things

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01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: about knowing history is learning from history. That's the relevance,

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01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: right If you don't learn from history, good and bad,

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01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: then you're missing an opportunity. Such apparently was the case

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01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: with cam Ward, who apparently has never heard of Josh Rosen.

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01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: Let's go back to that twenty eighteen NFL draft when

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01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen was the tenth overall pick in the draft,

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01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 1: fourth quarterback taken by the Arizona Cardinals, and he said

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01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: there were nine mistakes made. In other words, the nine

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01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: teams that passed on him made a mistake and they

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01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: will regret it. Let me remind you of the three

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that were taken ahead of him in that draft.

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Speaker 1: One was Baker Mayfield, two was Sam Darnold, three was

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. And by the way, the quarterback that was

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01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: taken after him, Lamar Jackson. You know what those four

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks have in common. They all made the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: this year. In twenty twenty four, they all made the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl this year.

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01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but so did Drake May.

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01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: So did Drake May. No, I'm talking about legitimately, not

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01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: as an alternate. All four of those guys were legitimate

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01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers this year. And Josh Rosen hasn't seen action

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01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL since twenty twenty one. I'm not sure

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01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 1: what happened here with cam Ward. I've talked to everybody

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01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: that is in the No. It'es a week year for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: He is a notch above shardor Sanders, the only two

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01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks expected to go in the first round. But the

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01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: idea of telling everyone in advance, if you don't take me,

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01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 1: I will remember, you will regret it. That is not

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01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: the way to come into the I mean, I don't

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01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: remember Peyton Manning saying if you don't take me number one,

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01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 1: like if you take that Ryan Leaf guy, you're gonna

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01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: regret it.

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01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: That's right.

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01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: They did regret the Chargers, but they didn't take him

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: ahead of Peyton Manning. Don't you just want to sort

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01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: of ease into the NFL before you've actually taken the field. Well,

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: isn't that a smarter path to hopefully, in your case,

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01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,759
Speaker 1: success down the road in the NFL?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.

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01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 3: I think that a part of leadership is humility. I

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01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 3: think that the best leaders always are the type of

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01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 3: leaders who think about it, think about things from the

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Speaker 3: perspective of what would it be like to follow me?

1455
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 3: And what do my troops need if we're talking about

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01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 3: from a military capacity, what do my constituents need if

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01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 3: we're talking about from a political capacity, what do my

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01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 3: teammates need if we're talking about it from a quarterback

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01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 3: situation or their standpoint or perspective. And I think when

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Speaker 3: you have confidence, that's contagious. When you have cockiness, that

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01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 3: can be misconstrued as arrogance and sometimes be an enormous

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01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 3: turnoff to people, including coaches, members of the front office,

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01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 3: or even your teammates. So it's a careful line that

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01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 3: yeah have to walk. And if you're overly confident and

1465
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 3: your skills or abilities or your talent doesn't back off

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01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 3: or excuse me, back up the statements that you've made

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01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 3: or the confidence that you exude, you know, then there

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Speaker 3: becomes an issue.

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Speaker 2: And with Josh Rosen.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we had an issue, and the Cardinals, to their credit,

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Speaker 3: rectified it immediately because the very next year they went

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Speaker 3: back to the first round and they drafted Kyler Murray

1473
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 3: and traded Rosen for like a fourth rounder with the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: They got him off the roster.

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Speaker 1: They they got a second round, or didn't they Maybe

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01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: it was a crazy all right, here's the exact cam

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01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: Ward quote, I mean, the cam mistake what he said here,

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01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: he said, Okay, you're either going to draft me or

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Speaker 1: you're not. If you don't draft me, that's your fault.

1480
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: You got to remember you're the same team that's got

1481
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: to play me for the rest of my career, and

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01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: I'll remember that. Well, here's the thing. When you put

1483
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: it out like that, guess who's also going to remember them.

1484
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: You're making your self automatically a target. Look when you

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01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: when you come into the NFL as a rookie, no

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01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 1: matter what the hype is, you are going to be tested. Yes,

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01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: you are going to be tested.

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01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 2: You're already a target.

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01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean I even remember back in the Raider days

1490
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: where Al Davis would actually tell veteran players to test

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01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: the fight in a rookie. Yeah, late hits and you

1492
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: know it's, you know, training camp type of thing. Let's

1493
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: see what this guy's made of, and a cheap shot

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01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: just to see his reaction, that kind of thing. This

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01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: is commonplace. You're going to be tested as a rookie,

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01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: but when you come out with that kind of boast,

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01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: not only are you tested by your own team, you're

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01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: going to be tested by the entire league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And this is what happened to Josh Rosen, among other things.

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01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: How that worked for him did not work well. So

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01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: this is a guy again, cam Ward, who rose from

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01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: the ranks of where he started it incarnate word, a

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01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: couple of years of Washington State and then feasting on

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01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: acc defenses to put up a glorious season at the

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01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: University of Miami. Great for the you, and everyone tells

1507
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: me he has the best talent of any quarterback in

1508
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: the draft, but it's not a great quarterback draft. I

1509
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: would expect he'll go number one overall. But I just

1510
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't know who got in his head about this.

1511
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: I mean, why was there? First of all, everyone agrees

1512
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: that he's the first quarterback taken, so why is he

1513
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: what's the difference If he's first overall, third overall, he'll

1514
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: get paid, He'll have a great opportunity in this league.

1515
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: I just I, like you said, this could be a

1516
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 1: warning though to some of the teams at the top,

1517
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: like is this the guy we want?

1518
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 3: You could be overreacting to it, or or any team

1519
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 3: who takes the position you just took could be overreacting

1520
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 3: to it. Sure, or it could be a valid concern.

1521
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 3: The problem is we don't know until we know, because

1522
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 3: there are so many can't miss college projections that missed

1523
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 3: at the end level. And then there's also stories like

1524
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,839
Speaker 3: Brock Perdy, who you can argue he is a franchise

1525
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,799
Speaker 3: quarterback or he's not. But one thing he can't argue

1526
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 3: is he's had success in this league. And that is

1527
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 3: and it's success that it's rare to find in the

1528
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 3: bottom of the seventh round. So the fact that a

1529
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 3: guy like Brock Purdy can take his team deep into

1530
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 3: the playoffs a couple of times in a very short

1531
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 3: amount of time in this league as a last overall pick,

1532
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 3: and then there are first round first pick busts tells

1533
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 3: you that this is an inexact science and it's really

1534
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 3: difficult to predict and sometimes super confident, cocky, arrogant athletes.

1535
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 3: They pay off on every single one of their promises,

1536
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 3: like Dion Sanders, you know, and sometimes you have a

1537
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:49,799
Speaker 3: guy who's boastful and full of himself and they flame

1538
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 3: out and you just don't know. So how much stock

1539
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 3: can you really put into what cam Ward said? I

1540
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,480
Speaker 3: really don't know, Steve.

1541
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I again. You want to ease in, You just

1542
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,759
Speaker 1: want to ease in. You want to be the Tacoli. Wow,

1543
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: this guy's better than we thought he was gonna be.

1544
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 1: And you put a target on your back. That can

1545
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: really not work for you. NIL has changed a lot

1546
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: as far as the finances and collegiate sports, but it

1547
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 1: has a major effect also in the future of at

1548
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: least one college basketball superstar. We got that and much

1549
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:28,400
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1556
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: weeks away from selection Sunday. So we're coming down the

1557
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 1: stretch of the regular season and the college basketball season

1558
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: than ever conference tournaments and then the NCAA Tournament and

1559
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: can't wait. I mean, it's a phenomenon. What's one of

1560
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 1: the interesting things about the NCAA Basketball Tournament. We've talked

1561
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: about this in the past, Rich, is it doesn't matter

1562
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: that you don't know the names of the players. I mean,

1563
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 1: we've had so many years. I mean literally, if you

1564
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: look over the last decade or so, let's go back

1565
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: to when Anthony Davis in his one and done year

1566
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: at Kentucky won the National Championship. If you look at

1567
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: the MOP Most Outstanding Player of the Final four. Since then,

1568
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 1: it's literally a who's who of who's that? Like, these

1569
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: are anonymous names that none of these guys have done

1570
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: anything at the NBA level. And this has been the

1571
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: frustration for college basketball fans is that you know, you

1572
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: got a great player and then he's gone, you know,

1573
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 1: one and done. I mean, that's that's the nature of

1574
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: the game. He used to be when you ever saw guys,

1575
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: I mean, Lebron never played college basketball, cub, he never

1576
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: played Kevin Gardner have never played. I mean, you have

1577
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: some of the greatest players in NBA history that never

1578
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:04,799
Speaker 1: actually played one game of college basketball. But that is changing.

1579
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: And I bring this up right now because Cooper Flag,

1580
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: the freshman superstar at Duke, who is expected, obviously after

1581
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: a great freshman year at Duke, to be the number

1582
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 1: one overall pick in the NBA draft. But he's saying,

1583
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, I want to stay.

1584
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1585
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: Now, Cooper Flag, by all accounts, is making in excess

1586
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,839
Speaker 1: of about five million dollars this year with his nil deals.

1587
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: Now consider that the way the money is progressing in

1588
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: the NBA after his rookie deal is done, and when

1589
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: you when you're a top pick in the draft, you're

1590
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: going to get that next big contract. People are saying

1591
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: that in a short amount of time he will be

1592
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: in a position to be making upwards of eighty million

1593
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: a year. So another whereas the quicker you get started,

1594
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 1: the quicker you get that second deal, that supermax deal,

1595
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 1: that could be at that time, with inflation everything else,

1596
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: about eighty million dollars a year, which is a lot

1597
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 1: more than five million.

1598
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 2: Dollars, no doubt.

1599
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: So he's hinting about this obviously, he's enjoying his time

1600
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: at Duke. I mean, this is the mecha of college basketball.

1601
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure he wants an opportunity now. If

1602
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: they win the national championship this year makes his decision easy.

1603
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: But if they fall short, he comes back. We've seen

1604
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 1: it in college football now, Rich, I mean, we're seeing

1605
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: players play five six years now. They're staying because they

1606
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: can still collect some money. Not necessarily the guys that

1607
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: are projected to be number one overall picks, but nonetheless,

1608
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: we're seeing guys extend their college career. You know, me,

1609
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm a college sports fan. It's nothing that I have

1610
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: against the pro game. I recognize the pros are the

1611
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 1: best of the best, but of the college game. So

1612
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: the idea of keeping guys an extra year or two

1613
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: at the collegiate level works for me. But what advice

1614
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 1: do you give to someone like Cooper flag pros and

1615
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: cons of Let's saying stay another year at do collect

1616
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: another five to ten million? Who knows as far as

1617
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 1: nil money is concerned, Or let's start the clock on

1618
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: your NBA career, because believe me, the amount of money

1619
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: you're making now is nothing compared to what you'll get

1620
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later if you were to enter the

1621
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: NBA draft after this season.

1622
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 2: Huh.

1623
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 3: Such a tricky situation because it really is case by

1624
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 3: case yep, and because you never know how you're going

1625
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 3: to project at the next level. It's very difficult not

1626
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 3: to have the thought process A bird in the hand

1627
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:51,839
Speaker 3: is worth.

1628
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 2: Two in the bush.

1629
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 3: Like I know, I'm going to be owed some part

1630
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 3: of millions and millions of dollars next year in colleg

1631
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 3: college basketball through these many endorsement deals that I have,

1632
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 3: or I could test it at the next level where

1633
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I'm a small fish in a

1634
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:14,759
Speaker 3: big pond. There's other superstars who are household names, whereas

1635
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm not not yet, and I'm going to have to

1636
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 3: prove myself again, not only to those players to that league,

1637
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 3: to the fans of the team that I play for,

1638
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 3: and then fans of the NBA and then sports fans

1639
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 3: after that, to convince them I'm worth being endorseable at

1640
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 3: this level or highly paid at this level.

1641
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: I could just stay at the college level and keep

1642
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 2: cashing checks.

1643
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 3: I would have a hard time advising any player to

1644
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 3: make the leap that was making the type of money

1645
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 3: he's enjoying right now. It's tough, Steve, and I think

1646
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 3: it's actually having the opposite effect on college basketball that

1647
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 3: many people thought. A lot of people thought like, oh

1648
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 3: my gosh, this is going to ruin college basketball. It's

1649
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 3: going to make it less interesting because there's gonna be

1650
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 3: so much player movement. And maybe to a certain extent

1651
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 3: that's true, and for certain people that's extremely true. But

1652
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 3: for me, I agree with you, Steve. I think this

1653
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 3: is going to reinforce to these players how important a

1654
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 3: the foundation of their game is and playing with other,

1655
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 3: you know, more grown players in a more competitive atmosphere

1656
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 3: at the elite Division one level in college basketball before

1657
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 3: making the transition to the pros. So we may see

1658
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,480
Speaker 3: a higher caliber of rookies start to leave college basketball

1659
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,480
Speaker 3: as a result of that. And then also in the interim,

1660
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 3: we're going to be able to follow these careers easier

1661
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 3: as opposed to having all of these one and done's,

1662
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 3: like you know, like like Ad, you know, like so many,

1663
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 3: like Zion, you know, like Kyrie, Like yeah, I mean,

1664
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 3: it's good for the league, but it isn't good for

1665
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 3: college basketball. So I think that overall, as a sports fan,

1666
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 3: I like that I like that, there's more of an

1667
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 3: incentive to stay.

1668
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 1: Now, all right, let me give you an example of

1669
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 1: what could be in the future for Cooper Flag. So

1670
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: let's take Anthony Edwards, Okay, number one overall pick Minnesota Timberwolves,

1671
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 1: and his first four years of his rookie deal, he

1672
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: made ten million, little more than ten million, about eleven

1673
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 1: million and thirteen and a half million, that's what he

1674
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 1: made the four years. Then he signs his new deal

1675
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: starting this year forty two million, forty six million, forty

1676
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 1: nine million, fifty three million, and the final year of

1677
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: this current deal fifty six million dollars. Yep, Matt's Now,

1678
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: so now we project over the future with inflation everything else,

1679
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: increased television revenue around the NBA. Yeah, we're looking at

1680
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: as much as eighty million a year potentially for Cooper Flag.

1681
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: But again, this is this is the whole idea of

1682
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 1: money versus just having a good time. You know, Tim

1683
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: Duncan played four years at wake Forest. He could have

1684
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 1: come out. It wasn't like he was like some you know, wow,

1685
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: this guy came out of nowhere. He was an All

1686
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:13,879
Speaker 1: American from his sophomore year on. He made the decision

1687
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 1: to stay in school. Hey, it was his decision. By

1688
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: the way, then went on to play twenty years in

1689
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: the NBA at the highest level, and by the way,

1690
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 1: he was ready to go day one. So I mean,

1691
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 1: is it is It's hard because the money is an

1692
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 1: obvious enticement. It would be for any of us. If

1693
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: the money is out there, You're like, well, come on,

1694
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a no brainer.

1695
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1696
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice that I'm getting paid now, but I mean,

1697
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: come on, compare the money. But if you haven't a

1698
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: good time, you know. Peyton Manning passed on his on

1699
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: the NFL draft to play his senior at Tennessee. Yep,

1700
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: he wanted to play. He wanted to finish the job.

1701
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: Win a national championship. Didn't happen, couldn't beat Florida, can

1702
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: never be Florida, and just Florida had his number, and

1703
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 1: he ended up losing the Heisman on top of that.

1704
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever regretted it. Certainly went on

1705
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: to a legendary NFL career. So, but but it is

1706
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: a game changer. Now with this nil there's no question

1707
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,919
Speaker 1: because now at least you're getting something, and I guarantee

1708
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 1: you this if Cooper Flagg comes back to Duke double

1709
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 1: his nil at least, yeah, I mean, he'll be making

1710
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 1: insane especially if they have a good run in the

1711
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 1: tournament and his profile goes to that next level, which

1712
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: obviously March madness can do for any player. He'll be

1713
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 1: making insane money by coming back to Duke. So I

1714
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: as a college basketball fan, I'd love the guy to

1715
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 1: play another year. Yeah, I mean, I'd love it.

1716
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 3: I think we landed on the same on the same

1717
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,959
Speaker 3: spot on the Bingo card, and maybe for slightly different reasons,

1718
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 3: but I really truly feel like players have been the

1719
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 3: scapegoat of greed for a long time. You know, I

1720
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 3: think that in college basketball or football, profit generating sports

1721
01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 3: for universities, you know, you've, you've not you, but like

1722
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 3: the public has been sort of duped into thinking if

1723
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 3: there's any players out there who are asking for more

1724
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 3: than just their tuition to be paid for, they should

1725
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 3: be shut down immediately, because what an honor it is

1726
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 3: to get such a great education in this country for

1727
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 3: free while you're playing a game that you know millions

1728
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 3: of people would love to trade places with you. And

1729
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 3: maybe that's true, but then when you start peeling back

1730
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 3: the layers of the onion, and you see how much

1731
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 3: money this business is generating, and how poorly certain college

1732
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 3: athletes were treated post career with injuries that led to

1733
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 3: a life of pain or detriment to their ability to

1734
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:46,520
Speaker 3: earn later in life, or you know, rendered them physically

1735
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 3: handicapped with no extended healthcare provided for them and no

1736
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 3: way to go back, and you know, seek any sort

1737
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 3: of reparations for damages done like that that ship had sailed,

1738
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 3: so so those for all those players in the past

1739
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 3: who struggled and suffered, I think that we're entering a

1740
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:07,719
Speaker 3: space that's a lot more fair.

1741
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 2: If you don't like.

1742
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 3: It, I'm sorry, because there was a lifetime of players

1743
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 3: being taken advantage of cruelly in certain cases before this

1744
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 3: lifetime and this generation of nil and transfer portal access.

1745
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 3: I think this is all going to be rained in

1746
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 3: a little bit in the coming years. I think there's

1747
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 3: probably going to be a few guardrails put up, But

1748
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 3: in the interim, I think it makes college basketball more

1749
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 3: competitive and more interesting. And I think that players getting

1750
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 3: their due for the first time makes me feel better

1751
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 3: about the whole process of the sport. So I find

1752
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 3: myself more interested.

1753
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 1: Coming up on the other side, we'll get back to

1754
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 1: the NBA the potential end of an era, not just

1755
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 1: any era, one of the most amazing eras in NBA history.

1756
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 1: Who does it involve? You'll find out. This is Fox

1757
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday, Steve Hartmin and Rich Oberger Here Fox Sports Sunday.

1758
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: We are live from the tai Iraq dot Com studios.

1759
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a little stat here that's

1760
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 1: going to make you feel.

1761
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 2: Old. Yeah.

1762
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 1: So one of the things about Cooper Flag we were

1763
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 1: talking about the Duke Star, is that he turned eighteen

1764
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 1: in December, so he's only he's eighteen years and two

1765
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 1: months old.

1766
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 2: Rich.

1767
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:34,719
Speaker 1: He was born December twenty first, two thousand and six.

1768
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: This is during your third year at Penn State. That's right,

1769
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:45,640
Speaker 1: that's when he was born born. Okay, I just I

1770
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 1: just tried to give you a little perspective.

1771
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,560
Speaker 2: Well, so you know what's.

1772
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 1: December twenty first, two thousand and six.

1773
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 2: That's when he was born. It does make me feel

1774
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 2: a little bit old, but.

1775
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 1: I mean he's almost six years younger than my youngest

1776
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 1: six yearser than me. He is six years, six years

1777
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: younger than me.

1778
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 2: That Shay.

1779
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 1: You hear that six years younger than Shake Cooper Flag

1780
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: two thousand, December two thousand and six.

1781
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 2: Check it out.

1782
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 3: So it's only odd to us in this country that

1783
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 3: a seventeen year old could be making five million dollars

1784
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 3: per season playing a popular sport in this country, because

1785
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 3: it's just not the norm. But if you go overseas

1786
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 3: and you see how early players are tapped into to

1787
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:37,560
Speaker 3: go start playing in the you know basically what would amount.

1788
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 2: To a as the G League of.

1789
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 3: Soccer, you know what I mean, Like they they start

1790
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 3: playing club at young levels and because each club wants

1791
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 3: to basically have the best farm league, what they'll do

1792
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 3: is they'll they'll play, they'll pay players enormous amounts of

1793
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 3: money as teenagers. So you'll have millionaire teenagers, sixteen year old's,

1794
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 3: fifteen year olds who project to be the next brightest

1795
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 3: star in England or you know, Italy or even some

1796
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 3: places in South America. And it's just commonplace. It's just commonplace.

1797
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 3: It's not abnormal, it's not unusual, like it's just because

1798
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 3: we've tied our minor leagues to amateur athletics and have

1799
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 3: made this this I don't know this thing where you know,

1800
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 3: it's tied to your education. Overseas, you know, kids go

1801
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 3: to university, that's what they call. They go to university

1802
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 3: and they play in their club team. They're divorced from

1803
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 3: one another. You know, there's no university teams. So it's

1804
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 3: just a different way of looking at it. And I

1805
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 3: think for Cooper Flag or for any other player who's

1806
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 3: young and making a tremendous amount of money, this has

1807
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 3: been going on for years and years in generations overseas.

1808
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 3: It's just coming to America for the first time.

1809
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: Well, on the other end of the age is Greg Popovich.

1810
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: Greg Popovich is seventy six years old. And to put

1811
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 1: that number in perspective, not only is he the oldest

1812
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 1: coach in NBA history, he's the oldest coach in NBA

1813
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 1: history by five years. Only one other coach had ever

1814
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 1: coached in his seventies, Hube Brown, who, by the way,

1815
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 1: what he just celebrates ninetieth I mean, Hubee, still, I

1816
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 1: think you finally stepped back from his broadcasting career in

1817
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 1: his nineties. Amazing Hube Brown. Wow, love him, But he

1818
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: was seventy one when he coached his last NBA game.

1819
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 1: Pop of it's seventy six now. If you remember, back

1820
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 1: in early November, right before a game, he suffered what

1821
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 1: they termed a mild stroke. And he's been on the

1822
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 1: sidelines ever since. And it's now been announced, and I'm

1823
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 1: sure that Wimby's departure and by the way, that's that's

1824
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, that's a little bit of a scary situation

1825
01:35:55,560 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 1: with that blood clot. Remember Chris Bosch's career ended because

1826
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 1: he had multiple blood clots. His NBA career came to

1827
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: a screeching halt because of that. It doesn't appear that serious.

1828
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 1: As far as Wemby and the Spurs are doing the

1829
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 1: right thing, You're not going to take any chances, that's

1830
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. But I mean, as far as Greg

1831
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 1: Popovich is concerned, who's already in the Basketball Hall of

1832
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,759
Speaker 1: Fame when he is coaching the history of the NBA.

1833
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 1: Oldest coach in the NBA. You know who hired Greg

1834
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 1: Popovich as the head coach of the Spurs?

1835
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 2: No, I don't know offhand.

1836
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: That would be Greg Popovich. So the story goes this,

1837
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 1: Greg Popovich's career really took off through a friendship with

1838
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,600
Speaker 1: Larry Brown when he was a coach at Kansas, and

1839
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:39,759
Speaker 1: then when Larry Brown became the coach of the Spurs,

1840
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 1: he brought Popovich on as an assistant. And then the

1841
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 1: ownership fired everybody, so Popovich left and then new ownership

1842
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 1: came in and sort of out of the blue hired Popovich.

1843
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 1: I guess the guy was impressed to be the general

1844
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 1: manager of the team. They had a coach named Bob Hill,

1845
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 1: and then Bob Hill got off to a start and

1846
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 1: Popovich fired him and hired himself. So there are many

1847
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 1: coaches that actually were hired by themselves, but Popovich made

1848
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 1: a very by the way, that was very astute decision

1849
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 1: by general manager Greg Popovich to hire himself to be

1850
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: the coach. Of course, five NBA championships, but as far

1851
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: as staying too long at the party, obviously a lot

1852
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: of intrigue in the future with the Spurs with Wimby,

1853
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: and you know obviously how that goes. He has certainly

1854
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 1: lived up to the hype. This kid is going to

1855
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: be one of the superstars of this league, hopefully if

1856
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 1: everything is good physically with him for many many years

1857
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: to come. But at some point for Greg Popovich, I mean,

1858
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: he's he's unfireable. I mean, you know he will make

1859
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 1: that he hired himself. He would have to fire himself

1860
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 1: apparently in the Spurs organization. But when you have a

1861
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 1: young superstar, a life wimby, is it wise to have

1862
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 1: that seventy six year old coach, even if he is

1863
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 1: arguably one of the greatest coaches in the history of

1864
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 1: the NBA. Or do you want him to sort of

1865
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 1: be nurtured in his career with a younger coach. How

1866
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: would you deal with this if you were ownership of

1867
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 1: the San Antonio Spurs.

1868
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 3: So if I were the San Antonio Spurs ownership, I

1869
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:30,760
Speaker 3: would want things to end as amicably as possible with

1870
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 3: inarguably one of the most important people to the franchise's history.

1871
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you prepare. What you do for a lot of players,

1872
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 2: a lot.

1873
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 3: Of coaches over the course of a great career is

1874
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 3: a little bit of an off ram. So you give

1875
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 3: some heads up. You start talking about this is the

1876
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 3: direction we're thinking about heading. Maybe you don't make it public.

1877
01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 3: You keep the circle extremely close, say things to Greg

1878
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,640
Speaker 3: on a personal level about how much he means to

1879
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 3: the program that you would be further indebted to him

1880
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 3: if he could be a part of the process of

1881
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 3: selecting his heir or somebody who he believes could help

1882
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 3: usher in a new era of Spurs basketball that he

1883
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 3: sees fit because obviously he's been such an integral part

1884
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,560
Speaker 3: of the operation for so many years. You know, you

1885
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 3: almost sort of glorify the graduation.

1886
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 2: You know, you try.

1887
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong, he's a competitive guy. I'm

1888
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 3: sure he doesn't want to be done. But if there's

1889
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 3: a way to do it gracefully, I would do that.

1890
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 3: I would make every effort to do that. Now, not

1891
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 3: everybody is owed that level of distinction or that level

1892
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 3: of respect, but Popovich, I think you need to bend

1893
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 3: over backwards to make sure that this guy feels good

1894
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 3: about his departure from the team.

1895
01:39:55,560 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, it's tough sometimes for someone to

1896
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 1: exit gracefully when when, again, you you've been in total

1897
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 1: control of the situation. And I'm sure in his head,

1898
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 1: Greg is like, you know, I can still do this obviously,

1899
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 1: Plus you're motivated by having a young player by Yama

1900
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: where he's like, Okay, we can build around this guy. Uh,

1901
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 1: and maybe this is going to be another run like

1902
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 1: I had all those years with Tim Duncan and Monogenobili

1903
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 1: and Tony Parker and then eventually that's right Kawhi Leonard.

1904
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 1: How he dealt with that, I don't know. It's it's

1905
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 1: a tough one. I know that the NBA would miss

1906
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 1: uh a guy like Papovitch because he was old school,

1907
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 1: right his you know, member the great Craig Sager, you know,

1908
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 1: the the late great Saga and his sideline interviews with

1909
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:49,719
Speaker 1: Popovich back in the day there were classics. Oh yeah,

1910
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 1: you know, oh yeah.

1911
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 3: I think that pop has been more for basketball than

1912
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,640
Speaker 3: a lot of people realize. And I think, you know,

1913
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 3: as a RETROSSI he'll get more and more esteem after

1914
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 3: his career ends, like post career, especially if the Spurs

1915
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 3: end up having you know, somewhat of a revival with

1916
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 3: Wem and Yama and their next head coach, whoever that

1917
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 3: may be, and if this continues to be a successful franchise,

1918
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 3: you know, his name will come up a lot and

1919
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 3: then people will realize, oh wow. It's almost like the

1920
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 3: Belichick effect. I think that a lot of people look

1921
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 3: at Tom Brady as the reason why the Patriots have

1922
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 3: had so much success over the years, and there's no doubt,

1923
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 3: but at some point.

1924
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:35,799
Speaker 2: People are going to wrap their heads.

1925
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 3: Around how unbelievably difficult it is to keep your job

1926
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 3: for twenty years with one franchise in the NFL, There's

1927
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 3: been like a handful of guys at the most in

1928
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 3: the history of the game who have been able to

1929
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 3: do that, and he's one of them and has been

1930
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 3: the winningest coach in terms of Super Bowl at the

1931
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Speaker 3: at the helm of any of those teams.

1932
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Speaker 2: So Pop Bellie, you.

1933
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 3: Know, even Tomlin to a greater less extent, you know,

1934
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 3: in the NFL as well, Like these are the types

1935
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 3: of coaches potentially Steve Kerr depending on how long he

1936
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 3: stays with Golden State and if he can usher in

1937
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 3: a new era after you know, Steph retires. They've already

1938
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 3: moved on from Clay. We'll see what happens next. These

1939
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Speaker 3: these are names of coaches who, may you know, enter

1940
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Speaker 3: enter the the thought process as some of the greatest,

1941
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Speaker 3: and they should be respected as some of the greatest

1942
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Speaker 3: who've ever done it.

1943
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Speaker 1: Do you think it would help Popovich if he had

1944
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: a girlfriend like Jordan Hudson Belichick's twenty four year old girlfriend.

1945
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, I guess that's way for Bill

1946
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 1: to say, look, you know, I still got it right. Well,

1947
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Speaker 1: did you see some of the pictures that they had

1948
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Speaker 1: together at the NFL Honors.

1949
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Speaker 2: I did see many of those pictures.

1950
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, did did they they? She's twenty four,

1951
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:54,800
Speaker 1: he's seventy two.

1952
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Speaker 2: That's right.

1953
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Speaker 1: And I love the fact that she she was talking

1954
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: about what's love? I mean what really she goes what

1955
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 1: constitute who should be loved?

1956
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Speaker 2: Right?

1957
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 3: Right? Right?

1958
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, well, I mean she she does make a

1959
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:07,719
Speaker 2: fair point.

1960
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, especially, I mean I mean when

1961
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Speaker 1: you look, I mean, this is your old coach. I mean,

1962
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Speaker 1: if you would have said, you know, when you were

1963
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Speaker 1: when you were drafted, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,

1964
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 1: you know back in two thousand and nine, your first

1965
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: meeting with coach Belichick and they said, all right, we're

1966
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 1: going to flash forward fifteen years and this is the

1967
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:32,839
Speaker 1: girl that your coach is going to be dating. Yeah,

1968
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 1: you would have thought what.

1969
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:36,599
Speaker 2: I would have thought.

1970
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Speaker 1: I would have I would have thought, he strike you

1971
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,879
Speaker 1: as a guy that would have that in his future.

1972
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 2: This is what I would have thought. I would have thought.

1973
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 3: There's a lot more that I don't know than I do,

1974
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,679
Speaker 3: but that's what I would have thought immediately, like there

1975
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 3: is a whole mile of iceberg underneath the surface level

1976
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 3: of this.

1977
01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 1: One, and this one hits home because again, my is

1978
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 1: going to be twenty four on April fourth, Okay, okay,

1979
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 1: And so if she were to come home with her boyfriend, keep.

1980
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Speaker 2: Her out of Chapel Hill buddy who is.

1981
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 1: I mean way older, who was older than me? How

1982
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 1: would I feel about that? Well, you're not sure. Here's

1983
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 1: here's what I'll say.

1984
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 3: There is a Netflix show that's onto it's eight season.

1985
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 1: Called Love Is Blind. Yes, I know, yes, yeah.

1986
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 3: The participants they all sit in what are called pods

1987
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 3: and they're separated by.

1988
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 1: I've watched the show.

1989
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean not everybody has.

1990
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 1: Nicholas Shay and his wife, Yes, they've.

1991
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 3: Been and these two couple or I shouldn't even say couples.

1992
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 3: These participants are learning about each other and never get

1993
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 3: an opportunity to see each other, right, and then all

1994
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 3: of a sudden, upon the revealed, they're supposed to get

1995
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 3: engaged and get married.

1996
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you.

1997
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Speaker 1: Know doesn't work out that way much on that show, though,

1998
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Speaker 1: Well I would.

1999
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 3: I went back and I looked and I and I

2000
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 3: found out that about ten percent of the couples over

2001
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,799
Speaker 3: the history of the show, Like I said, eight eight seasons,

2002
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 3: so I don't know how many engagements there were. About

2003
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:12,639
Speaker 3: one hundred I think is the number it hovered around.

2004
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 3: So about ten couples are still happily married. Yeah, and

2005
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 3: it just goes to prove to a greater or lesser

2006
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 3: extensive Love is blinde.

2007
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's find out from a different person right now.

2008
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 1: Let's find out what is a trending right now. So

2009
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Speaker 1: in your opinion, Moncy is love blonde? Love is blind?

2010
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:40,639
Speaker 1: I think it can be. But so when you see

2011
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 1: Belicheck seventy two with his twenty four year old girlfriend,

2012
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, I mean if she's blinded by money?

2013
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 2: No, you know what I mean.

2014
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Speaker 7: I mean like to.

2015
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Speaker 1: Say that physical facts absolutely Monzy, that that was the

2016
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 1: farthest thing from my mind. I can't run that exactly.

2017
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Speaker 6: Anyone who says it is Anyone who says physical attraction

2018
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Speaker 6: doesn't matter is a liar.

2019
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Speaker 3: Okay, But okay, hang on a second. I mean, who's

2020
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 3: to say she is in physically attracted at Bill Belichick.

2021
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure she is because of money. Well, if you've

2022
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 1: ever heard Rich talk about his wife Anne. For her,

2023
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:24,720
Speaker 1: it was all about physical attraction. Absolutely got the.

2024
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:28,759
Speaker 2: First time she laid eyes on me. I was wearing

2025
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: ass less chaps and that was it. And that was it.

2026
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Speaker 3: I mean, and now you know, for everybody at home,

2027
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Speaker 3: obviously all chaps are assless.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but there was no undergarment.

2029
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And and so I mean she was

2030
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Speaker 2: like posed.

2031
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Speaker 1: Ass cheeks is what we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: And it was love first sight.

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Speaker 6: With the show Love is Blind that you're talking about,

2035
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Speaker 6: literally when they get engaged and they see each other

2036
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Speaker 6: for the first time, how many people's faces are like

2037
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Speaker 6: oh god, yeah, oh that's okay.

2038
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Speaker 3: Look like so there are times where you can tell

2039
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 3: right out right away as they're running down or they

2040
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,959
Speaker 3: open up these these two sides of this long runway

2041
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:10,559
Speaker 3: between them.

2042
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 2: Yes, you can tell one.

2043
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Speaker 3: Or both of them were like whoa, well the awdo

2044
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:17,679
Speaker 3: thing is like one is like yeah and the others

2045
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Speaker 3: like not.

2046
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Speaker 1: So much, not so much.

2047
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Speaker 6: Yeah it so, yes, like it can be blind.

2048
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Speaker 3: Blind, but also love grows, love does grow, yes, and

2049
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 3: like like, okay, I agree with that. Mushrooms you know,

2050
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 3: they grow in the dark on top of manilar. So

2051
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 3: I mean we're talking about like any life finds away monster.

2052
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Speaker 8: Life does find a way, it really does. I yes, guys,

2053
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Speaker 8: let's move on here and check in on the NBA

2054
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:53,080
Speaker 8: Golden State Warriors. Just extending their lead over the Mavericks

2055
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 8: at home fifty six thirty six, two minutes to go

2056
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 8: in the first half.

2057
01:47:57,640 --> 01:47:59,599
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler eleven points.

2058
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:01,840
Speaker 2: I think this is his debut.

2059
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 6: At home for the Warriors. He's got eleven points. Steph

2060
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:08,760
Speaker 6: Cray's got twelve points. Klay Thompson a zero of three

2061
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 6: for zero points for the Mavericks, So no bueno. Kyrie

2062
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 6: irving two of ten for five points. So that's why

2063
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 6: the score is that way. The Celtics of one five

2064
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:19,759
Speaker 6: in a row, though after defeating the next one eighteen

2065
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 6: to one oh five. Jason Tatum just shy have a

2066
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 6: triple double twenty five points, ten rebounds and nine assists.

2067
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 6: In men's college hoops, the ring teams are done for

2068
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 6: the day. Number ten Saint John's. They've won thirteen out

2069
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 6: of their last fourteen, beating Yukon eighty nine to seventy five.

2070
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 6: Indiana had a seventy three to fifty eight upset over

2071
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 6: number thirteen per Due and number twenty two. Memphis crushed

2072
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 6: Florida Atlantic eighty four.

2073
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 1: To sixty five.

2074
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Speaker 6: On the ice, the Capitol's crushed the oiler seven three

2075
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 6: Alex Ovechkin with the hat trick, now thirteen goals away

2076
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:51,440
Speaker 6: from breaking Wayne Gretzky's all time goals record in NASCAR.

2077
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: Out of the.

2078
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 6: Atlanta Motor Speedway, there is a caution, but after one

2079
01:48:56,479 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 6: hundred and six laps, Joey Legano is currently in the lead.

2080
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 6: And lastly, here the NFL network is reporting that Shadoor

2081
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 6: Sanders is not gonna throw at the NFL Combine. He's

2082
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 6: going to focus on his interviews and we'll throw at

2083
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 6: Colorado's Pro Day.

2084
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 1: Wow, well I am. I'm glad you mentioned that story

2085
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 1: because that what's where I's gonna go next. There you go,

2086
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Uh oh, by the way, don't

2087
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 1: forget after the show. Our podcasts going up, So if

2088
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Speaker 1: you miss any of today's show, check out the podcast.

2089
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Speaker 1: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

2090
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 1: then follow rate and review the podcast. Again. Just search

2091
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio wherever we get your podcasts, and you'll

2092
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 1: see today's show posted right after we get off the air. Well,

2093
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:44,599
Speaker 1: that last story that Mantcy just shared about Shador Sanders saying, yeah, yeah,

2094
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 1: you want to see me throw. We have my pro

2095
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 1: day out there. This is but you know this, this

2096
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 1: is a smart play by his agent. First of all, again,

2097
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 1: you have plenty of film to look at Shadoor Sanders, right,

2098
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 1: It's not like I always love this like you know,

2099
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:01,720
Speaker 1: we I want to see him in person. Okay, well,

2100
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,799
Speaker 1: you've got endless film of this guy throwing in actual

2101
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 1: game situation from his college years. So it's not like

2102
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 1: you've never seen the guy throw. But oh yeah, I

2103
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,840
Speaker 1: get you want to see him throw in person. But

2104
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 1: when you look at Shador Sanders' situation this upcoming draft,

2105
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 1: whether he's worthy of being a top ten pick, it's

2106
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 1: like right place at right time, And cam Ward is

2107
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:28,839
Speaker 1: the consensus number one quarterback in this draft and Shardor

2108
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 1: Sanders is the number two quarterback in this draft. I

2109
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 1: can guarantee you right now, Chador Sanders will not fall

2110
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Speaker 1: below the Raiders in this draft. I cannot imagine because

2111
01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 1: again it's not just what you get with Shador Sanders.

2112
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Speaker 1: He's Dion's son. I mean, we were projecting like it

2113
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Speaker 1: was going to be a package deal. Apparently that's not

2114
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 1: going to happen, obviously because all the NFL vacancies have

2115
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 1: been filled. But he's still part of the scene when

2116
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 1: you talk about Shador Sanders. And so if you're the

2117
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,640
Speaker 1: Raiders right now and you don't have a lot to

2118
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,760
Speaker 1: be excited about, you have Tom Brady, you know, you

2119
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 1: got brock Bowers, you got Max Crosby, at least for now,

2120
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Speaker 1: I think. And so my point is is that the

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01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 1: idea of him not throwing I don't think has any

2122
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Speaker 1: impact at all as far as his drap position is concerned.

2123
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Speaker 2: I would tend to agree with you.

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Speaker 3: Look, if there's one thing that I think the throwing

2125
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 3: portion of the combine proves, you know, or whether you

2126
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 3: do it at the combine or the.

2127
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Speaker 2: Pro day, is your health.

2128
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,640
Speaker 3: It's just one more metric that you can look at

2129
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Speaker 3: and say, Okay, well, since we last saw him, his

2130
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 3: shoulder seems to be okay. You know, his elbow seems

2131
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 3: to be okay. He he's gripping the football, well, he's

2132
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Speaker 3: throwing the football.

2133
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Speaker 2: Well.

2134
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 3: It's a very small box to check, but you've seen

2135
01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,679
Speaker 3: him make all the throws that you need to see

2136
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 3: him if you're willing to draft him in the first round.

2137
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:04,840
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because you're not rating him

2138
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 3: off of whether or not in an empty gym, whether

2139
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 3: it be at the combine under the lights of Lucas

2140
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 3: Soil Field, or you know, at the University of Buffalo

2141
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:20,440
Speaker 3: indoor bubble or indoor training facility on campus and Boulder.

2142
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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

2143
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:24,920
Speaker 3: You've already seen all the throws you need to make him,

2144
01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 3: you need to see from him. You're just seeing if

2145
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 3: he's healthy. So I don't think it. I don't think

2146
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 3: it's that big of a deal.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you know, one of the things that

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Speaker 1: comes out of the combine is the measurement of quarterbacks hands.

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Speaker 1: Remember they made a big deal about this with Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Do you know which current starting quarterback in the NFL

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Speaker 1: has the smallest hands.

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Speaker 2: The smallest Sam Donald?

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Speaker 1: No, it would be Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, and you know who's second on that list.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why Donald's.

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Speaker 1: Starting court I'm talking about starting Donald is a starter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well he is. But I mean, if I.

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Speaker 3: If I would have to guess based off of I

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Speaker 3: mean This would be a blind guess. I'm gonna say Jalen.

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Speaker 1: Hurts, that would be incorrect. The answer is Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: So apparently if he's second or third or somewhere in

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Speaker 1: that neighborhood, apparently borrow the current starring Quarwicks has the

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Speaker 1: smallest hands, but Mahomes isn't far behind, so that that's

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Speaker 1: another overplayed. It's not the size of your hands, it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's what's between the ears, you know, the ability

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Speaker 1: to understand defenses. I mean, we've seen so many quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: over the years. They don't have necessarily the strongest arms.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Tom Brady doesn't have huge hands either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you know that, it's just a medic.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't come up with these ideas of how to

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Speaker 1: gauge how about watching film? Does this guy make quick decisions?

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Speaker 1: Does he throw the ball accurately? Those are the two

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Speaker 1: things I need to know in a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: It's just a metric that they use to.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me let me give you an example that

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Speaker 3: that is more common amongst people you know, than than

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Speaker 3: selecting a quarterback to play for your team for the

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Speaker 3: next five or ten years.

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Speaker 2: You're you're picking a house.

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Speaker 3: Right, you put in a couple of offers because there's

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Speaker 3: there's a couple of different houses that are for sale that.

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Speaker 2: You're really interested in.

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Speaker 3: But it's a buyer's market or a seller's market. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot of buyers out there, there's limited inventory, so

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Speaker 3: you're just trying to spread, you know, spread a couple

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Speaker 3: offers around and and get into a place because you're

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Speaker 3: you need a home, you need more space.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you put in a couple offers. All of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, your top two choices come back in.

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Speaker 3: Well, all right, it's not all that easy to pick

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Speaker 3: between your top two choices.

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Speaker 2: So you start looking at school district.

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Speaker 3: You start looking at dis from some of your favorite

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Speaker 3: places to eat. You know, is there a coffee shop nearby?

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Speaker 3: You know, is this one close to a main road?

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Speaker 3: Is the backyard gonna be noisy? How are the neighbors

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Speaker 3: in this neighborhood? You know, you know what what's the

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Speaker 3: situation at night? Like is this a busy neighborhood at night?

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Speaker 3: Or you know, is there any way to check and

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Speaker 3: see about safety? Like all of a sudden, you start

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Speaker 3: parsing out the smallest details because you have the benefit

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Speaker 3: of doing so. That's the reason why these NFL teams

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Speaker 3: go to hand size for quarterbacks, because they know they're

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Speaker 3: picking between two great choices.

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Speaker 1: Well, and the point is it's a built in excuse. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, everyone agreed his hands were too small, Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow too small. You know, he's first pick in the

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Speaker 1: draft and he should have been and has proven why

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Speaker 1: he was all right coming up on the other side,

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Speaker 1: what we are looking forward to in the upcoming sports week.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, ch Scharnberger, Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Sunday Live from the tire rac dot Com studios.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank our you today. Montsey battling today.

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Speaker 1: She always does. She's always there to answer the bell.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not like NBA players.

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Speaker 1: I'm here exactly. No load management for you, management for

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Speaker 1: me for any of us, any of us. No days off,

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Speaker 1: no days off. Chris another guy working constantly. Yesterday you

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Speaker 1: know he switched on the board to updates. That's right,

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Speaker 1: you know, filling the shoes.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Always I'm always around here. I don't even go home.

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Speaker 1: I just kind of fit in the boards of the

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Speaker 1: crawl space up upstairs. Exactly wait for the next next one.

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Speaker 1: That's what we love Chris and the Churus. Shaye now

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Speaker 1: is running the show. How's it going so far?

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Speaker 2: Sha?

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Speaker 1: How's this new show you're running here? You guys make

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Speaker 1: it easy, That's all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 2: I don't wanna. I don't wanna.

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Speaker 1: I still want my job, but you guys think it.

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Speaker 1: He's got the staples button. Okay, So Shay, you've seen

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Speaker 1: how this show operates, right, and so understand the genius

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Speaker 1: of this show is Rich because Rich literally has no

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Speaker 1: idea of what I'm doing the entire show, and he

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Speaker 1: never has, you know, you know, my idea is, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we have a general idea. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: whatever most people are talking about obviously, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I've always had this feeling you want to keep it fresh,

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Speaker 1: you know, because sometimes you could you know, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's talk and then you talk it through before the

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Speaker 1: show begins. By the way, Mansey has to do this

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Speaker 1: on Saturdays as well. But as we sit here, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'll tease a segment, but I don't give any details,

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Speaker 1: and so he has to be guessing on the other

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Speaker 1: side what it is we're actually going to be talking about,

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Speaker 1: and you can see there's never avery any hesitation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't matter what I say. He has

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Speaker 1: plenty to side. I'm a good talker, he's a great talker,

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Speaker 1: and we can just talk about it. So I would

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Speaker 1: imagine Rich all these years, you have to look at

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Speaker 1: it as like a mental challenge, right to do a

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Speaker 1: show with me. You're literally you would talk about love

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Speaker 1: is blind. Well, this show is blind us. That's really

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Speaker 1: what it is. And so whether you like what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about or don't like, you still got to come

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Speaker 1: up with something.

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Speaker 3: Oh dude, there's no question. And uh, I know I

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Speaker 3: appreciate that very much.

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Speaker 2: I really do. I really really does keep it fresh.

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Speaker 2: There's oh, there's there.

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Speaker 1: You're on the edge of your sea line.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: There are sometimes people go like, how hard is it

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Speaker 3: to uh to.

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Speaker 2: Talk for for three hours?

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, because there's there's limited commercial breaks.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you know.

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Speaker 3: When you when you are completely surprised about what you're

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Speaker 3: talking about every fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: Because what's happening is you are formulating the thoughts of like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: where am I going to go with this as you're

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Speaker 1: actually talking that is correct. Yeah, So I'm like, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming. But here we all talk and.

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Speaker 2: Then yeah, yeah, all over.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, on a this is the way most people.

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Speaker 1: If people don't understand this, when people are like scriptus oid,

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Speaker 1: I go, I don't know, do you script out your

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Speaker 1: normal conversation during the course.

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Speaker 2: Of a day.

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Speaker 1: No? No, I mean everything is in the moment. And

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Speaker 1: the great thing about sports and what makes it so

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Speaker 1: different I think than any other news that's happening in

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Speaker 1: the world is that you can pretty much manipulate it

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Speaker 1: any way you want, you know. I mean, go back

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Speaker 1: to a story we're talking about earlier, like the Matthew

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Speaker 1: Stafford story, was trying to get rid of Matthew Stafford,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, if you want to make it

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Speaker 1: that you could, you know, you can sort of twist

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Speaker 1: that story in that way. But more likely than not,

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Speaker 1: they're just looking for an idea of how much they're

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Speaker 1: going to pay this guy to come back as the

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Speaker 1: quarterback next season. All right, So coming up this week

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Speaker 1: Rich obviously NFL Combine coming up on Thursday, which is huge,

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Speaker 1: and something we talked about at the very top was

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Speaker 1: the Luka Doncic and I thought you were one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent on the mark, saying, all right, he looked unreal

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Speaker 1: last night against Denver, but that may not actually be

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Speaker 1: where we're going next in the Luca Doncich story with

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Speaker 1: the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: It's a big we'll see on Luca the Lakers, how

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Speaker 3: Lebron and him get going together. But we've had some

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Speaker 3: ups and downs already.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, if you want more surprises, I guarantee

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Speaker 1: you there are plenty more to come right here on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio