WEBVTT - Cut To It: JERMICHAEL FINLEY 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.640 This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.920 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.720 Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:15.960 is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:19.479 Let's get down to do it. Good do it. We 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.920 asked the questions you always want to know, but no 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:29.080 one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:34.720 about it, then we're about to let you know. It's 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:43.880 all tight end. Everybody's tolling me, so that's not saying much. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:48.720 But he's six ft five playing weight was about two seven. 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:53.240 I'm saying he's probably maybe a pound and a half 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:58.720 heavier now in retirement right, Um from the University of 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.400 Texas tighty when when tight ends were trying to the 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:06.000 tight est. Today, we're trying to be what Jamachael Finley 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.760 is UH today, which is a receiving tight end, big target. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.280 Welcome to the Cut to a podcast Jamaica. From Michael, 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.720 Oh my god man, thanks thanks for having being honest. Man. 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:21.560 This is just I'm looking forward to. It's gonna be 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:25.080 a fantastic conversation. Where are you from in the place 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:29.440 you call your hometown? Um from from dove Ball Texas. Bro, 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:34.080 it's uh. Uh it's south of fifty nine post to Houston, 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:37.479 Texas and uh as well as born and raised raised 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:41.440 by my grandmother. Man, you're born and raised by your grandmother? Okay, 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:43.399 so that how much mean you know how to cook 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:47.360 a little bit? I a love bit, man. But once again, 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:51.640 now I guess somebody that set it up for me. Now, Bro, really, Oh, 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.720 what's some of your favorite meals that other people cook 0:01:55.800 --> 0:02:00.360 for you? My my favorite, Man, One of my favorite 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:05.360 meals is uh taking promos on bro homemade taking promisen. 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.120 Of course, I'm a I'm a country boy, so I 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.600 like pig feet hog malls with hot sauce on it. 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.200 I know you're looking at me crazy, but it's one 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:20.360 of my favorite meals, bro. Really, growing up, what other 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:26.200 sports did you enjoy playing other sports? Uh? My first 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.639 love was basketball. Man. I didn't start playing football, um 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:33.639 until my sophomore year in high school. Uh. I got 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:37.799 recruited by Arizona by Lude Oats and the famous Lude 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.600 Oats and at the time, um, and then my jo 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.280 mcbrown came around and was like Finley, one of the 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.400 two here at the University of Texas. And you used 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.480 to play basketball and football. So I'm like, man, I'm 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.600 I'm in Texas, so I gotta play football. Um, So 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.320 I be committed my junior year UM and went through 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:59.520 the University of Texas. You know, obviously as funny as UM, 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.040 I was up at a couple of days ago, was 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.240 up at uh uh UNC Chapel Hill and had the 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:09.920 opportunity uh to see mc brown. Just see um. You 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.359 hear the stories of how he is connected to the 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:18.480 University of Texas, how he has always understood uh the 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:23.040 climate and talking to some players and coaches down at 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:26.160 UNC Chapel Hill. Is you know this this is this 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.160 is a guy who's you know, he's no spring Chicken's 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.000 He's he's up there in age, but yet he's moving 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:36.680 around and understands, uh the climate and with the climate 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:41.760 of you know, with with with uh black lives matter, uh, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.920 the climate of equal opportunity, just everything that we have 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:50.520 to deal with, right um, each and every day Coach 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.000 Brown was talking about it, and you know, man, I 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:57.920 was just I was shocked because of he does a 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:03.000 really good job, yeah, of making sure he's plugged in 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.240 and listening to the players. Has he always been that 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:10.760 way and that's crazy you say that. Steve Man always 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.680 been that way. One of one of my favorite coaches 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.480 because he's a player's coach. He's one of those coaches 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.920 if you sit down at line star at the mill 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.440 table in college, he's one of those coaches that come 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.680 by and shoot the ship with you and say what's 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.359 up kicking uh and and down that line and uh. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.120 And of course it was in Austin, Texas where I 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.719 mean a lot of players got in trouble, um and 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.560 you're singing with some coaches, some coaches to get your 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.880 grass up out of the a soap, Mack Brown bringing 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.360 the office talk to you. You know. I think one 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:46.120 of the things with students too, is identifying where they 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:51.480 come from and and and what challenges they have in 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.880 in in moving forward, going from where they used to 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.960 be to where they're trying to be. Absolutely and he's 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.760 done a great job with that to a lot of 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.120 my peers. I came in with Jamal Charles rack Poe 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:09.160 played for Tennessee, so we're guys that came from um property, um, 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.719 the streets, um, and somewhere down the line of that nature. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.279 And he knew how to deal with us. He knew 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.680 how to talk to um and and so on down 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:20.880 that line. And man, when I say I loved mcgroun, 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:22.880 he was it was like I said, he's my He's 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:27.000 my top coach in my career. Well that's that's that's stellar. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:32.120 Tell me your experience, your collegian experience, uh, playing at 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:36.120 the University of Texas and what was football for you? 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.160 And and and and how did it? How did it 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.960 change your life for you know some people that say 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.720 it didn't you know, everybody very sure. I don't want 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:49.279 to assume. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh. Like I said, I came 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.040 probably man, football, basketball, anything I gotta do with the ball, 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.960 Uh yeah, I mean I'm front the streets, so anything 0:05:58.000 --> 0:05:59.960 that deal with the ball, I'm gonna do it. Because 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.280 that that got me out of where I was from. Um, 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.599 I wasn't I wasn't a genius. I wasn't the smartest 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:09.600 kid on the block. So I had to implement sports 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.320 into my life to try to get out um situations 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.359 that I was in. And like I said, Mac Brown 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.120 and lude Oatson and UM saw him down the line. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.120 The coaches that recruited me, I mean, blessed, bless my 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.719 game and bless my life and now today life change 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.480 from my my five boys, uh and and my wife. 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:29.840 Um not now that you get to live the life 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:31.719 that you know, I mean that a lot of people 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:36.080 can't live. Why do you say that sports was the 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.320 only way you can get out? Do you just felt 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.960 that that was the only way? What was what was 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.800 holding you back? Or why do you believe but that 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.720 was the only one. I mean at the time, the 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.080 capacity of my brain was, Uh, it wasn't as as 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.320 an assimilated as it is now. And uh thinking of 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:58.159 the big picture as as I'm out. Uh. Like I said, 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.880 I grew up without a father. Um Gramar raised me. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.520 So she was working two jobs. So like I said, man, 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:05.880 only only where I can get out of the projects 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.479 is I mean the time was the ball because the 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:14.000 capacity of my brain couldn't think bigger as far as academics, business, 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:17.640 entrepreneurs and things down that line. And now today, man, um, 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.040 I can teach my kids. Uh uh you know, I 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.600 mean how to play the game within the game, and 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.560 that's you know what I mean, making making a businessman, 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:30.120 not only focusing on sports. She'll go backwards and look 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.680 at Jamachael Finley. Back then, what what did you show 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.960 yourself short on throughout your years at the University of Texas, 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:42.080 just in everything, not just you know, Grant better around. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:46.480 I'm just talking about just everything they could backward absolutely. Uh. 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.400 My thing is it's it's crazy when the compliance came 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.480 in and talking about what you can do with your money, 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.600 um down line or you know what I mean, especially 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:58.560 when when the guys came in and done a little 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.120 orientations and and fell um you know, I mean they 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.239 came at the wrong time because it was after practice. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:08.040 I'm fatigued as hell, But it was a little meetings. Uh, 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.880 the little team meets that that guys don't listen to 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:15.080 as far as as Lee wise. Uh. Like, like I said, 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.240 I'm doing player development now. Um, I got my own 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.760 companies called Elevate You, and I'm teaching these guys and 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.440 listen to all that little detail. Man, you came out 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:27.360 of college early, right, we take us through that process 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.280 or why you why did you leave college early at 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.440 that at that time. I mean, we all know why 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.320 you left college, Jelly, but I don't like to assume, 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.640 so I just want I want you to tell that story. 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:44.600 You're something right, bro, Uh, You're something right. Um. So 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:49.360 men's and maltals once again. Rules roommates and man were 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.160 like I said, we was. We was making it happen 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.600 on the field, was coming during our things. And we 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.520 came back after the o U game. It was probably 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.920 week five, and then we see all these scouts coming. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:02.800 I was like, man, we got some money for you. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.040 I'm like, man, I can't even do it. Man, I'm 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.400 trying to get to the lead. So man to mall 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.000 got in the bluth. I was like, man, I'm leaving 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.840 this year. I put my paper in for the NFL 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.800 and said in the first round, I'm like seeing I'm 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:20.240 leaving for self. Back down, I wasn't having it. And 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.000 the ball was like, man, I'm out of here. I 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.400 don't care what the hell he's saying. So from there 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.960 and don't bro we hit the We hit that HLV. 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.520 Like there were a lot of people who would assume 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.640 that these coaches, man, you know, they just want they 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.080 would just want these kids to leave early so they 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.880 can keep showing showing them how many draft picks they 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.240 have to keep. Uh, so those guys will come back 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:47.120 donate to the school. Like just the the product coming 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.920 in and out and and and fans don't really. Fans 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.480 have now really got to the point of where they 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:57.360 believe that these coaches are just you know, it's like 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.400 a it's like a puppy farm, right, you know, they 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.360 get them, they raise them, they sell them to the league, 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.640 and then they do it to the next guy. And 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.880 it just walk us through that because there is a 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.640 lot of assumptions that that are out there. Boy, you're 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.600 you're funny. Man. We I live in Texas, So we 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.920 call it like raising cattle and just putting them, put 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.600 them in a slaughter machine, throwing them out. But yeah, 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.440 it's one of those things, man. In Texas. Man football 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.840 is huge, and especially with Matt Brown. We had that 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.760 team coming in that next year with Cope McCoy being 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.240 the quarterback. He look, he saw that we had a 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:38.680 national championship on the line, and my thoughts and my 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.360 peers thought that, hey, look we out of here, you know, 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.439 I mean, we're trying to change our family lives. M 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.679 And my thought is, being a little youngster, is that 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.760 man I got I mean, my my body got to 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.520 count on it. And I played reckless. I don't play 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:55.920 I don't go out of bounds like a Jason Winton 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.880 I'm not one of those guys. I don't slide. I'm 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.080 trying to find some contact. So my thought was get 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:05.760 out and go get the money. As out show you 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:11.120 get drafted by the Green Bay Packers. Man, tell us, 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.880 tell us what was that experience for you personally, going 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.680 going through that process, going to you know, you're coming 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:26.559 from a historical college, right historically in winning attendance expectations, 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:30.840 and then you fall right into the same expectations, the 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:36.560 same storybook franchise Green Bay Packers. Man, it was it 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.920 was a whirlwind. Um. I was when when I got drafted, 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.600 I was back home. Um I had all my people 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.080 all was over there kicking it, and we got the 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.439 phone call from Mike McCarthy and Tared Thompson. At the time, 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.480 I'm like, hold up, man, um I got Tared Thompson 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:57.280 Mike McCarthy on the line, old up, and I'm coming 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.560 from Austin, Texas where it's ninety degrees and I'm about 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:03.560 to go to the place where it below zero. I'm like, man, 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:04.880 I don't know if I can do that. So I 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.560 call my homeboy, Johnny Jolly. At the time, it was like, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:15.520 now you better bring every Nintendo game you got Nintendo. Yeah, Nintendo, 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:24.000 you know train castles out at least by them, any 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:28.199 kind of Yeah, bro, he said, bring it uh time. Man. 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.559 We got on the plane the next morning, I dropped 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.680 down in Green Bay and I'm like, man, what what 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.560 these people got me at? And uh, like I said, 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.320 now I'm thinking about it was a blessing planning Green 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:43.640 Bay because it was strictly football. I mean, what is 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.160 so elaborate on that? What do you mean it was? 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:48.720 I mean, I know what you mean, but elaborators, just 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:53.559 strictly football, the football meeting within myself, coming from Austin, 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:57.280 which is which is a uh which is a party town, 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.800 a town where it's a lot going on, a lot 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.560 of things happening, and going to Green Bay where you 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.400 know what I mean, you got the Green Bay Packers 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.680 and you got the packer honors. Let's expect a lot 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:14.520 from you, you know, I mean, the fans um obviously 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.880 pay you well, have an honor. So it was one 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:18.360 of those things where you have to you have to 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.400 lock in a little bit. Now. I loved every bit 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:27.080 of it. I love cut to it, and I love 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:31.240 it even more when you download us and subscribe and 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.880 you can follow us on social media too, Smithie where 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.880 where at that's at? Cut to It on Instagram? What 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:42.120 about Twitter? At? Cut to It Facebook? Cut to It 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:46.079 featuring Steve Smith singr. What about online? And you can 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.760 follow us at cut to It podcast dot com where 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.760 you can buy merch and you can subscribe to this 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:57.079 wherever you listen to podcasts. I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah, 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.599 I got all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for, 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.640 a brother, cut to a podcast dot com. So you're 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:13.160 out there, you're playing, and then you get hurt. Man 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:17.200 take I wanna I want to sit there because you know, 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.560 obviously obviously I've experienced being hurt as well, but I 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:26.040 want to talk about really what the injury, not physically, 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.800 not just what it if to you physically, but also 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:33.200 the eternal dialogue that you have, you know, and just 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:37.720 how you managed everything going from the cream of the crop. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.560 Um too, all of a sudden, football is being played. 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:47.400 But yeah, you can't participate, right and and and not 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.160 and I'm and I'm not interested in blaming who and 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.880 all that stuff. I don't care, just just really giving 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:57.200 people understanding of the reason I say that I'll set 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:02.560 the stage and then you follow. Every year you get hurt, 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.760 whether it's a hamstring, broken ankle, whatever it is, you 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:10.680 always have that moment and that injury, whatever current injury 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:14.360 you have, that's the worst injury you've ever sustained at 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:20.840 that moment until the next storm comes right yea. And 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.960 it's and it's one of those things. Man where at 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.040 varsity is on the hit um And I always took 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.760 in my head if I played this game long enough 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:31.960 and injury is gonna happen, you know what I mean. 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.080 I don't blame man Steve. I don't blame the guy 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.960 that hit me. I don't blame nobody. It was football 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:41.680 is a football play. And when I hit the middle 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:45.640 of a fourth quarter, I was playing Cleveland, uh fourth 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.800 quarter of four minutes, thirty five seconds, laughing A Rodgers 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.880 hit me on the routine, a routine slam. Um. I 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.000 caught the ball, duck my head a little bit. Um. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.040 I forgot to catch Ward. Ward came down hill and 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.440 hit me, and I hit him up. In next day, 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:04.000 man was I was like man like literally paralyzed. I 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:08.960 was paralyzed for two months, bro, I couldn't move right side, 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:14.000 paralyzed and I hit a boy. The next day, my 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.480 my my grandmother held the phone up to my face 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:18.920 and I was like, Man, don't even worry about it. Man, 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.760 I called to lead, don't even find him, don't it's 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.800 football that this this happens. And Man. From then on, 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.760 Man and I grew callous as far I grew stronger. 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.360 Um in the way I'm moving in real life now, 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:37.320 So we'll take us through that. He hit you, you 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:42.440 duck your head, and then what duck my head? I 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.200 hit the ground, bro And when I hit that ground 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:49.160 and felt at the time for for about uh five 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.760 by five to ten seconds, I felt it felt like 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.880 a hunted bees was sinking because my body was going 0:16:55.920 --> 0:17:00.360 into I was going to top. And after that my 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.080 body collapsed. I went into I forgot what it's called 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:06.160 with your hands and feet, go all across ways and 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:10.960 um after so much pain bro Um. At the time, 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.600 at the time, it was Cordless Andrew Corless looking down. 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.960 I'm like, man, if you don't call these people out 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.560 here and come get me, I'm like, because I'm hurt. 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.600 And after after I told it, said that to him, 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.240 I was out of there. I passed out because I 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.800 was in so much pain and in so much shock 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.720 back pain, like when you say the beast things like 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.880 you're just talking about like just all over your body, numbing, 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.320 all over my body. Um, it's like your body going numb. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.320 You got them move what they call them tangloss. And 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:51.800 yeah I had that full body. Wow. Yeah, I'm showing 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.760 five shoulders to toes. So so there's the toes man. 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.200 And at the time, I'm I'm on the field. I mean, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.560 I'm gonna feel a crime. I'm like, man, I don't 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.760 know what's going on. Next thing I know, I try 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.320 to I'm trying to yell, and next thing I know, 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.679 I go horse. And after that, like I said, I 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:15.680 just collapsed. Man, I was out of it. Yes, because 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.720 after that, because my narrow canal that's where you turn 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.320 your head, it collapse on me. So I couldn't. I 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.920 saw it cut off my air supply and all show 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.400 you show you, wow, show you passed. Now you could 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:32.119 have died right there on the spot, on the spot 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.360 because when he when he hit me and it put 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.240 it and put a bruise on my and put a 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:41.920 bruise on my spinal corps. It's instantly stopped breathing. Bro. Wow, 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.680 the trainers and the paramedics, all the all the guys 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.280 got got to me in time to calm me down. 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:52.199 I started breathing. Um, I couldn't move. And at that 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.920 time I went to the hospital. I've done a doctor. 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.560 I was like, I think that was your last place. 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:00.800 I was like, man, I got to be a kidding me. 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.280 And so happened. Um. God was looking down on me. 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.520 And I had signed a disability policy with lords in London, 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:09.879 and I started tapping into that and I started thinking, 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.199 I'm like, yeah, it might have been my last Like 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:17.719 you feel me m hm. I mean, you know, you 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:21.320 have a conversation with the guy that hit you. Then 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.880 what what what's the rest of it? What's the rest 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.520 of the story, Like, you know, I understand the money, 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.119 I understand all that stuff, but what's going on in 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:33.440 your head? Like how are you processing all of that stuff? Man? 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.760 The process that was crazy, man, because once again we 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.080 all have this number in our head and how long 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.040 are we're gonna play? How long we want to play? 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.560 And then once I got settled there and Rodgers came 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:47.480 to the to the house, sital all my guys, Mike McCarthy, 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.679 everybody came in and done the thing. And after I 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.680 got time to calm down and think, I'm like, man, 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.040 what what's the next phase of my life? So I 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:01.120 went into this deep, deep depression. I went to deep 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:05.359 depressing probably for probably two years to check me up. 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.560 Out of that deep depressed, I went in a dark 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:11.480 hole where um, if we can talk openly and free, 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.040 there was a lot of addiction start popping up. Things 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:18.000 that I was doing out the out the ordinary, you 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.080 know what I mean, Things I never even thought about 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.359 them because I love to keep my body peer and clean, 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:28.080 and so all of these um addicted personality started coming. 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.760 I started getting very impulsive because once again, when I 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:35.919 got knocked out, percent of my brain was dysfunctional, and 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:39.000 so I couldn't I couldn't process things. I couldn't think, 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:42.119 I couldn't even you know what I mean, I couldn't do. 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:44.400 I couldn't do much, seems. So I went to Peer 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:48.600 Sports Recovery UM. What they do a ton of rehabilitation 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:52.520 for guys that had head trauma addictions all all over 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.880 the line. I went there and I took a time 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.840 out in like man, and and called up and and 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:06.080 tried to beg um become normal and become try of 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:11.359 your brains wasn't working, wasn't working? What are the some 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.520 of those if you don't mind me asking, what were 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:18.440 some of those things you weren't able to do anymore? Uh? 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.960 As far as process, like if I've seen it, I 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:25.760 wanted you feel me. As far as like, um, go out, 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:29.679 going out and hanging out then with the wrong crowd. No, no, no, 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:33.720 I'm talking about of your brain wasn't processing. So I'm 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:36.480 talking mind you get up in the morning and I'm asking, 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.560 and I don't want to sound stupid, but like can 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:43.880 you brush your teeth? Yeah? I can, Yeah, I can 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:47.880 brush my teeth. It was just at the time, like 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:52.360 if if some occurred. As far as a business a 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:56.480 business adventure, my thought was, damn, I'm just sell on it, 0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:00.280 not thinking, not going through my assistance and try sets 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:04.040 and things. Right, Um, I can go all down the 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:08.639 line with you bro um drug it was. It was 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.840 it was a combination of things. M hm. And so 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:15.679 you so you go to this uh, you go to 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.800 this facility and and what are some of the what 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.480 are some of the techniques or what what are some 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:25.080 of the rehab stuff that you have to do to 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:27.880 to get it back. Like you know, somebody listening, they're going, man, 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.440 what is that I'm trying to give the listeners and 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:38.320 understanding of what what rehabilitation is for what that looks 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:43.760 like for someone who loses forty four of their of 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:47.800 their brain use. Um, it looks like it's a it's 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:53.480 called neuro feedback. When they put a map on your head, um, 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:55.440 it's like an X ray almost. And then they put 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:57.960 a cap on your head basically like my cap now, 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:00.560 and they put all his wires on your head and 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.720 attach them. And you're looking at the screen and the 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.840 screen maybe I'm a football player on the screen, maybe 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:09.760 have a kicker on there, and you have to sit 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:13.040 there and just focus on the screen. And if you 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:16.640 focus right, the kicker kicker right through the uprights every time. 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:20.560 And if you focus though elsewhere, the kicker just he'll 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:24.080 start shaking them. It'll be off. So it was teaching 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:27.080 me how to process and how to see the things 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:30.879 and how to settle my brain with this, with this 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:35.640 dysfunctional of dysfunctional meaning I had bleeding all over here, 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:38.960 all on my left side because when I when every 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:42.000 time I took the tackle, I leaned to my left side. 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:45.040 So I had a ton of contact. Um in the 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:47.119