1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the official Jets podcast, Ericalling here at One 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Jets Drive joined by Ethan Greenberg. We're gonna get into 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: free agency right now. It is Thursday. The NFL leaguer 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: actually commenced on Wednesdays, so if you're listening to this 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: after Thursday afternoon, there could be a move or two 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: that Joe Douglas has made. With that being said, we 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: gotta get to some news, and later on in the podcast, 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you a little bit of light a 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: window to what's been going on here at One Jets 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: Drive today because we want speaking to all the new Jets, 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: including Trod Taylor, and to Rod Taylor, I got a 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: chance to sit down with him, but let's start with 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: greens Ethan Greenberg in the house. Ethan, from your perspective, 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: what's his day like in terms of let's take people 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Oh sure, as far as the guys 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: actually coming in, they signed their contracts, and then what 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: happens From a content perspective, I think it's. 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: Kind of like hurry up and wait a little bit. 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: Because the guys that come to the facility, they have 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 3: an itinerary and they have to whether it speak to coaches, 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 3: Joe Douglas, personnel staff, take medicals, sign contracts like there's 22 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: so much that goes on that we don't see, and 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: then we just we wait and then those guys come 24 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: to the studio that we're recording in right now, we 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: interview them, whether it's podcast, whether it's one on one, 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: whatever it is, get a little FaceTime, then get up 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: on out of here. 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas has been active at all fronts since last Sunday. 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: He resigned two potential UFAs off the bat and Chuck 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: Clark and Greg Zerline agreed to terms of a couple 31 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: of his ourfas and Kenny Oboa and Jay Canson. He 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: went the UFA route for Tarrod Tayler, John Simpson and 33 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Javon Kinlaw. He even to trade for Morgan Moses. Then 34 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: there was a reported restructuring today of linebackers CJ. Moseley. 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: There are also two additions to that list including Thomas 36 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: Morstead uh that happened throughout the week, and then the 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: big defensive tackle from Arizona as well, who you go 38 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: ahead of? Lucky FO two actually has a Jets connection 39 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: because he played collegiately at Utah and his defensive line 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: coach was so we're gonna have to talk to him 41 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: about uh lucky. But with all that being said, what 42 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: do you think about what's been done here from Joe 43 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: attacking every possible possible avenue and also with this restructuring 44 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: reporter restructuring CJ. Moseley and also DJ Reid's been quite 45 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: active on social media as well, so maybe there's something there. 46 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's been telling us something, but 47 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: I don't think the Jets are done. 48 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: I don't think they're done either. 49 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: I think a lot of like cap analysts, like we've 50 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: talked to Brad Spielberger from PFF in the past, and 51 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: guys like him and who really take a look at 52 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: the numbers when you look at restructuring. A couple guys 53 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: had mentioned, you know, do you extend someone like DJ 54 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: Reed now to try to free up more cap space 55 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 3: this year? And I think that we kind of saw 56 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 3: that with CJ. Moseley, who this was I believe the 57 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: last year of his contract and he gets a two 58 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: year deal reportedly in terms of the restructure, which frees 59 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: up some more money for the Jets this year to 60 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: probably make more moves. Whether that's free agency, the draft, 61 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. But I think that Joe 62 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: Douglas has I think Jets fans were a little antsy 63 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: early in the negotiating window, which happened two days before 64 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: free agency began. But I think when you look at 65 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: the whole picture of what he's done, I think you 66 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: have to be happy. You bring back to your point 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: Zerline and Moristead, who were both essentially weapons for the Jets. 68 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: Both of those players won the Jets games in twenty 69 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: twenty three. Chuck Clark is interesting because I think that 70 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: he was such a versatile piece in Baltimore. We just 71 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: never really got to see it last year because he 72 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: tore his ACL. Then you add some big boys up 73 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: front in terms of Morgan Moses and John Simpson and 74 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: Javon Kin Long Lucky Fotso like the Jets right now 75 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: going into the offseason, I think a lot of people 76 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: would say, you're looking at the positions in which he filled. 77 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: So let's go right there, perfect transition segue, as we'd 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: like to call into business. Jets enter the offseason with 79 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: needs it offensive line, backup, quarterback, wide receiver. Then defensively, 80 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: you'd start at defensive tackle and safety. Let's go to 81 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: offensive line first. What do you make of the moves 82 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: is Simpson and then Morgan Moses returning for his second 83 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: stint with the je Well. 84 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: I think Simpson's really interesting because just speaking to him 85 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: and doing some research, he was the first one to 86 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: say like he didn't quite have the confidence he has 87 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: now when he got cut by Las Vegas and then 88 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: he kind of refound himself in Baltimore and he was 89 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 3: in a left guard competition. He wins the job, then 90 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: he gets a little pay day comes here, and I 91 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: think that you can see it when you if you like. 92 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: I keep saying this, if you have highlights as an 93 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: offensive lineman, like if you're laying people out, you're. 94 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: Probably doing something pretty good. 95 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: And he's a tone setter, so I think from that perspective, 96 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: I think you have to like it, especially like. 97 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: It's a free agency. 98 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 3: It's hard to get I would say team friendly deals 99 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: with good players, but based on the reported numbers out 100 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: there compared to what some of his offensive line counterparts, 101 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: that guard received seems to be like a Jets friendly deal. 102 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: And then with Morgan Moses, but he was a Jet 103 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: and he was great, and he seems to be great 104 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: for Baltimore. Frankly, I'm not quite sure why Baltimore was 105 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: so okay with letting him go, And some people have 106 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: said that on Twitter, and I think if you're a 107 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: Jets fan right now, you think about where this offensive 108 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: line could hypothetically be, Like left tackles I would imagine 109 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 3: as a question mark guard. You would imagine Simpson Titman 110 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: right guard. Let's say Avt for all intention purposes, and 111 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 3: then Morgan Mojes. I mean, you're shaping up to have 112 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: a pretty nice starting five who get after it or 113 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: agile and our tone setters. 114 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: Well, Avt's the chess piece. He could play left tackle. 115 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: You can play all four of those spots on the line. 116 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: The only spot that you're probably not going to put 117 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: him at would be center. You're trying to find permanent home. 118 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if the permanent home is right card 119 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 1: and if there is a move on the horizon again 120 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon, I guess it's a little bit after noon 121 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: right now. It's the in the twelve o'clock range, either 122 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: in free agency or the draft. Also, you got some 123 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: depth pieces there, Carter Warren, Max Mitchell, Wes Schweizer, of 124 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: course Schweitzer. 125 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough twist. 126 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 127 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: Also, just I can't imagine what it's like for some 128 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: of the like the Adam Schefters of the World, Ian Rapaport, 129 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: Mike Carfulo, Tom pelisera like the Insider guys. Like every 130 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: time my phone buzzes because I have their tweet notifications on, like, 131 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: I get like a little jittery and I feel like 132 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: I need to check it in case something happens. I 133 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 3: can't even imagine what those guys are like right now. 134 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: I think there's a mindset change going on here for 135 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: the Jets as far as what they want to do 136 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: up front along the offensive line you talk to Simpson, 137 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: I just feel like they want to get a little 138 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: bit grimier, nasty, ear set the edge. And there's the 139 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: guys in the past who've done some good things for 140 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: the Jets, no doubt about it. But I mean, when 141 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about Simpson and Morgan Moses, thocial guys are 142 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna get after you. And also, I think that what 143 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: we've seen in the past from Aaron Rodgers is that yes, 144 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: he can do anything, but he's especially effective with the 145 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: play action game and the Jets have one of the 146 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: best running backs in the National Football League in Brisall. 147 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. 148 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 3: And I think that if you're Brice Hall, you got 149 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: to be really happy about this. Obviously, fans are going 150 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: to say, oh, this is great for Aaron, also great 151 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: for Breze Hall. I mean, you take a look at 152 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: Pro Football Focus, John Simpson had nine big time blocks. 153 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure what that means, but big time blocks. 154 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: You'd imagine that that's a good thing. And you have 155 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: he has highlights of laying dudes out and that ranked 156 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: second among guards. 157 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: And then Morgan. 158 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: Moses, I believe, had like the third best run block 159 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: raide on Pro Football Focus this past year among tackles. 160 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: So I think, basically to your point that Jets are 161 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: getting a little grime heer if they really start to 162 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: attack the running game with Priese Hall. I mean, he 163 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: gives Breesze Hall a sliver of daylight and he's getting 164 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: a decent chunk of change. You give him a hole, 165 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: we see what happens there. Like to me, I'm thinking 166 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: about that Denver run from this past season. He had 167 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: a gaping hole to run through and now ended up 168 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: in a touchdown. And we've talked about it so much, 169 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 3: like he is so strong that if he really gets 170 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 3: a full head of steam or a couple of yards 171 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: of steam, it's going to be really difficult for defenses 172 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 3: to bring him down. 173 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: Jets aren't done along that offensive line. Let's skill to 174 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. We knew that was on their radar starting 175 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: in the off season as far as veteran quarterback was concerned. 176 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: They gave Zach Wilson and his team permission to seek 177 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: a trade to Rod Taylor, most recently with the New 178 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: York Giants last couple seasons. The Jets make a move 179 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: there to get a very capable backup quarterback. 180 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that if you're a Jets fan, you're 181 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 3: obviously very familiar with Taylor, because the Jets played in 182 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 3: this past year a little bit with the Giants. They 183 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: played him in against the Browns the Texans. Like, I 184 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: think that if you're a Jets fan, what you want, Well, 185 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: first of all, you don't really want to see your 186 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: backup quarterback on the field because you want Aaron Rodgers 187 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: to be healthy. But if for whatever reason Taylor needed 188 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: to come in, I think you'd feel confident that he 189 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 3: could not only play well, but win the football game 190 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: the way that this team is structured, where the defense 191 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: is so good, you add some pieces up front, like 192 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: we're talking about. 193 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: I don't think the Jets are done either, whether that's. 194 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: The I was like the ticketing team is not on either, 195 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of noise here and a bell 196 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: just wrung. 197 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: So I will say, like, let's take him behind the scenes, 198 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 3: like there's a probably less than five feet outside of 199 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: the studio to both of our rights, there's just bell, 200 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: and if you make a deal, you ring the bell, 201 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: and the bell's ringing right now. 202 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: Maybe they're excited about tyright. 203 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 4: About. 204 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: Yes, the New York Jets in twenty twenty four so 205 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: very capable backup quarterback. I can't believe he's entering year 206 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: fourteen already. With that being said, he's a guy who's 207 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: still t mobile and one of the most accurate long 208 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: ball throwers that I've seen in the league for a 209 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: long time. So listen, you're in capable hands. If Rogers 210 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: can't play. Now, if Rogers can't play, you're hoping for 211 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: is it just a couple of games? I don't even 212 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: want to think beyond of course, all right, so you 213 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: have a really seasoned quarterback room and maybe you add 214 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: a young guy to the mix. And Day three of 215 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: the draft, the Jets have three compensitory selections. We'll get 216 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: to that later. So let's flip into the defensive side 217 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: of the ball. A lot of movement defensive tackle, starting 218 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: with Kim Law. The connection there with Robert sala former 219 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: first round pick of the San Francisco forty nine ers 220 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty, so Salon knows exactly what he's 221 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: getting his hands on. And then you don't just stop there. 222 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: Fotwo comes in, big body, it's like six four, six five, 223 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: three thirty five, So you're thinking about that guy can 224 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: come in and be a run plugger and occupy space 225 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: and a younger version. 226 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: So I think with kin Lawn FO two, these are 227 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: like these are athletes. I mean you talk about Photo specifically, 228 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 3: he grew up playing rugby and the Athletic put out 229 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: this article on him that sheds a little bit of 230 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: light about to his upbringing and. 231 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: The hardship that he had to deal with. 232 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: I would suggest that if you wanted like a glimpse 233 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: or peak behind the curtain in terms of who Fotwo is, 234 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: but on the field, like this is an athletic defensive 235 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: tackle like al Woods. I think this is essentially the 236 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: al Woods type replacement, like the run stuffer FO two 237 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: is more athletic than al Woods is, especially at this 238 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: point in both of their respective careers. Woods coming off 239 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: a big injury and achilles injury at the twilight of 240 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: his career, where Folks who's coming off his rookie contract 241 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: with the Cardinals. So I think the upside is there, 242 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: And I think if you're a Jets fan, you have 243 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 3: to kind of believe in Jeff Ulbrick and this defensive 244 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: coaching staff that they're going to get the best out 245 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: of these guys. Solomon Thomas to your point, or someone 246 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: you mentioned, he had a career year in sacks in 247 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 3: this defense last year. Same thing with Quinton Jefferson, who 248 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: reportedly agreed to terms with the Browns. So I think 249 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 3: if you're a fan like Javon Kinlaw number fourteen overall pick, 250 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: he might be thinking, well, you know, he didn't maybe 251 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 3: play out the way that a lot of forty nine 252 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 3: ers fans were hoping this guy. I mean, I don't 253 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: know if you saw him today, he was in the 254 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 3: cafeteria downstairs, He is so long and so broad, and 255 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: you would imagine that Aaron whitecomm the defensive line coach, 256 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: it's gonna have a field day with this guy because 257 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 3: he's he has the measurables that the Jets want in 258 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: their defensive lineman. Now it's just about teaching them how 259 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 3: the Jets want to do it and unleash these guys. 260 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: Any defensive tackle was gonna be happy playing next to 261 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: a superstar in Quinn Williams, and the Jets have that 262 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: luxury here. Let's go back to the safety position. Chuck 263 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: Clark unfortunately wasn't able to play last year. We know 264 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: he's been here rehabbing consistently. People have talked about what 265 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: a good duty is, what kind of presence he brings 266 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: to the locker room. So Tony Adams returns that free safety. 267 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: He was under contract a lot of uncertainty elsewhere as 268 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: he started the offseason. But you don't even let Clark 269 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: get the free agency. You re sign him and you're 270 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: set up there. 271 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: I think with Clark, like how many guys I'm serious, 272 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: like this is I'm curious in your wealth of knowledge 273 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 3: in terms of being in the league for a long time, 274 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: Like how many guys are as versatile as Chuck Clark 275 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: because for those who. 276 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: Don't know Ravens flying here to the Jets, by the way. 277 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah there are, Yeah, there are a lot of former 278 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: Ravens flying up by ninety five here. But with Clark, like, 279 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: he's taking snaps at every single defensive position throughout his career, 280 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: including like interior defensive line. So I'm not asking you, like, 281 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: who are players that have done that in the past, 282 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 3: but players who are talented and so versatile, Like I'm 283 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: trying to think of guys over the last couple of years, 284 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: and it's hard for me to name. 285 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: No. 286 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: They asked him to do pretty much everything, and he 287 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: was central command for the Ravens and he's a guy 288 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: who kept Kyle Hamilton off the field, which is crazy. 289 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: If you really think about it. That speaks to the 290 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: transition to the National Football League, and that's why you 291 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: should be excited about it. A guy like kN Law 292 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: not comparing these guys as far as positions are concerned, 293 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: but sometimes it takes players longer to transition to the NFL. 294 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: There's familiarity here and Kim Law's coming off a career 295 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: here with the forty nine years Hever Knights with the 296 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: reunites with a guy like Sala, who Sala has said 297 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: in the past, a lot of guys come here and 298 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: they end up having career years. Quinton Jefferson a great example, 299 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: six and a half sacks last year he signs with 300 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Jets get younger, much younger at the defensive 301 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: tackle position. Is this defense will continue to be nasty 302 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: and salty in twenty twenty four? 303 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: Oh? 304 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: Say so, I will say this before we get to 305 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: to Rod. Can you speak to what's out there? What's 306 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: got your what's got your eye? What should we pay 307 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: attention to? Because one of the needs that I talked 308 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: about to start the offseason, the one position that Jets 309 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: haven't addressed just yet has been receiver. We know they 310 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: could have had another running back down the line. You 311 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: got Breist, of of course you're Bob Kyle, but Israel 312 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: Obana Kana very promising, a guy entering his second season. 313 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: But what else do you think potentially could be out 314 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: there here and free agency that we should continue to monitor. 315 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: Well, So, just going on receiver alone, I think it 316 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: was pretty quiet from the beginning, Like in the very 317 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: early stages of the negotiating window, guys like Gabe Davis 318 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: went and the most recent one was Calvin Ridley, who 319 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: got a lot of money from the Tennessee Titans. Yes, Now, 320 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: in terms of wide receiver, I mean we've talked about this. 321 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe this year's class isn't in terms of free 322 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: agent class isn't as active as a lot of people 323 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: thought because of the depth in the draft class, No doubt. 324 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: So if the Jets were to add people in free 325 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: agency at wide receiver, the guys who still remain as 326 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: of now twelve oh six, just making sure that who's available, 327 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: Guys like Marquise Hollywood Brown, Tyler boyd Odell Beckham Junior, 328 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: who it seemed like was definitely in the mix to 329 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: becoming a Jet last season. And then there's other guys 330 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: like if you go, I mean there's Michael Thomas, who's 331 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: obviously dealing with injuries as of late. I just think 332 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: that if the Jets want to add a receiver, they can. 333 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: I just keep coming back to that this receiving room 334 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: is going to be in a better spot with Aaron 335 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: Rodgers under center, regardless. 336 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: And I do think that. 337 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: We've spoke about this too, like Alan Lazard I think 338 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: will be a much better player in twenty twenty four 339 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 3: than he was last season for the Jets. 340 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: And Gibson and brownly give you a depth as well. 341 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: So okay, let's go to tackle. Tyrone Smith's out there, 342 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: Trent Brown is out there, David Bactieri's out there. What 343 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: do you think. Are you surprised it's Smith being out there? 344 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: And again he again he would fill the void and 345 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: left tackle. And obviously those three UFA's that the Jets 346 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: had in the house, they're also out there, in fact 347 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: in Brown, Billy Turner, and then a couple we haven't 348 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: talked about a number of UFAs, including Jordan Whitehead the 349 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: safety position going back to Tampa, but Ashton Davis remains 350 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: out there as well, justin Hardy another guy. But let's 351 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: focus on tackle. 352 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I don't know what the hold up 353 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: is with Tyron Smith. I think it's kind of interesting. 354 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 3: Obviously I'm not privy to those conversations, but you would 355 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 3: imagine a guy who's still playing at an elite level, 356 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 3: even though there are durability questions, would sign rather quickly. 357 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 3: And we're standing here, you know, this is now almost 358 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: twenty four hours after officially, the new league year begins, 359 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: which means that teams have had at least won three 360 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: days to talk to Tyron Smith's representatives and try to 361 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: work something out. Am I surprised that there's been a 362 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: little no, little to no movement there a little bit. 363 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: I'm wonder what that means. 364 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: However, I will say I think Joe Douglas will end 365 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 3: up signing a tackle period, because I think when you 366 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: go into the draft. 367 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: You know, we know that we're going to try offensive line. 368 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: But they got a starting guard and you got a 369 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: starting right tackle. 370 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like you don't want to be pigeonholed no draft. 371 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: So if the Jets do sign someone one of the 372 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: guys that you just mentioned, Tyron Smith, Bactiari, Trent Brown, 373 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 3: even a guy like Donovan Smith Okay, who I'm pretty 374 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 3: sure is on record said something like it'd be cool 375 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: to block for Aaron Rodgers. This is when he was 376 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: with the Chiefs, like knowing that he was going to 377 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: become a free agent. I think that that there are 378 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: just a lot of options there, and so if the 379 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: Jets do sign one of those guys, then you go 380 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: in the draft and you can be in a spot 381 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: at ten overall, where you don't know how one through 382 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: nine is going to play out. 383 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: So if you want to add a receiver, you go 384 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: for it. If they're available. You want to add a tackle, 385 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: go for it. 386 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: Well, if you sign a tackle, starting caliber caliber tackle 387 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: over the next couple of days, maybe over the next 388 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: few hours. I wonder if the play is to get 389 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: another playmaker at the top of his draft, you can't 390 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: go wrong in another offensive linement. Moses is interesting, Like 391 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: people are wondering why did Baltimore part ways? I look 392 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: at that is probably more of a cost cutting future 393 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: move because he signed through twenty twenty four. They knew 394 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: maybe at the end of the day, is he gonna 395 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: be on this roster in twenty twenty five. So Joe 396 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: Douglas makes a move that's very smart, you know, and 397 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: you get a guy who's gonna be starting at the 398 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: right tackle spot. But as far as what he's done 399 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: here early on in free agency, every possible avenue RFAs 400 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: UFA's street. We didn't mention Isaiah Oliver. Guy's gonna come 401 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: in and provide some depth in the secondary and can 402 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: play multiple positions as well. The Jets have the best 403 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: cornerback group in football who add to the mix, and 404 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: it's just as a depth piece trade, you know. So 405 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: he's done everything the UFAs, but they're not done it, 406 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: and they also have flexibility and whatever move that they 407 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: make moving forward, you know, it sets it up for 408 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: an interesting spot. Remember he told us in Indianapolis not 409 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: too long ago that bottom line is, I like where 410 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: we're at now, we're kind of seeing the picture unfold 411 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: before us. 412 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 413 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 3: I think that obviously free agency crystallizes the draft. The 414 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: one team that's actually on the Jets schedule for twenty 415 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: twenty four that I think based on their free agent 416 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: moves kind of paints their picture a little clear in 417 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 3: the draft is Tennessee. You think about they have DeAndre Hopkins, 418 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 3: they just added Calvin Ridley, they already have trailing I 419 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 3: don't know what, so I don't know what their defense 420 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: is looking like. But to me, my uneducated opinion is 421 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: that they would likely go tackle or defense and they're 422 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 3: sitting there at seven. Last year under the same regime, 423 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: they drafted Peter Skoronski in the first round and he's 424 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 3: playing guard for them. Could they want to add someone 425 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,239 Speaker 3: to protect Will Levis or you know, depending on like, 426 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: if there's a quarterback available, would they be open to 427 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 3: trading back if someone wants to trade up. That's the 428 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: team that I kind of have circled right here based 429 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: on their free agency moves at impact the Jets come 430 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: draft time. 431 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: But even if they did, fashion new might be on 432 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: the table, and one of those top three receivers might 433 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: be on the table. 434 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 3: Exactly, which is why it all comes full circle to me, 435 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: because if the Jets do sign one of these tackles 436 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: we've talked about, you're in a good spot where you where. 437 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: Let's say, for the sake of this conversation, if the 438 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: Jets didn't sign one of those tackles, then all of 439 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: a sudden, you're worried Tennessee's drafting a guy, and then 440 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: maybe you have to figure it out what your solution 441 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: is at tackle. 442 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: Afterwards, I thought, on and you're going to get a 443 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: starting tackle and you're gonna starting guard, and free agency 444 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: you've already done that, so maybe one more is in 445 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: play and this line looks completely different again. But one 446 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: guy is gonna be lining up behind the offensive line 447 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: in the spring and throughout the preseason. Tara Taller hopefully 448 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: he's not taking too many regular season snaps, but we 449 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to talk to him. For myself and Ethan, 450 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: We're going to keep you updated. Remember our apologies in 451 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: advance because this was TAP twelve thirty Thursday, our free 452 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: agency reset. At this point, Joe Douglas has been a 453 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: busy man, and I can tell you right now the 454 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: hall's buzzing down there right now. Hey, So how does 455 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: it feel to Rod to embark on a journey with 456 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: your seventh NFL team? Now? 457 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 5: It's a blessing. Each team or each city has been 458 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 5: unique in his own I've learned a lot and I've 459 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 5: grown as a person as a player, and thankful for 460 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 5: this opportunity I have here. 461 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: What did you think when the season ended with the Giants? 462 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: What was ahead for you? 463 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 5: Truly, I honestly didn't know. Finished off on a good foot, 464 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 5: but yeah, you never know. The league changes day to day, 465 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 5: week to week, so you really have to be at 466 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 5: peace about what you put on the field. And for me, 467 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 5: I'm a believer, uh so I think that God, God's 468 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 5: timing is everything, so he'll find the right the right 469 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 5: steps in the right uh direction for you, and I 470 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 5: just trust trust them. 471 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: You've been through this before, no stranger of the process. 472 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: What was it like this time around? 473 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 4: Wasn't that bad? Actually? 474 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 5: Obviously, listening to your agent, you're weighing out different different options. 475 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 5: You're trying to see what makes the best, what's what 476 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 5: makes the most sense, and ultimately thought that this was 477 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 5: a great fit. Fortunately I don't have to move places, 478 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 5: but excited about this, this journey here with the Jets. 479 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 5: Have a talented roster, a lot of players that I 480 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 5: respect from playing or just knowing alone in the years, 481 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 5: and uh excited to get to work with these this 482 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 5: group of guys. 483 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: You just touched upon it a little bit, but money talks. 484 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: We know that you got to make a living. But 485 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: what made the Jets attractive to you? 486 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 5: You look at the roster, very talented roster. I mean, 487 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 5: obviously some injuries last year that you can't control. But 488 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 5: I believe everything is in the house to be able 489 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 5: to achieve what every NFL team is trying to achieve, 490 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 5: which is a Super Bowl early right now. Obviously you 491 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 5: never want to get into that. There's a lot of 492 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 5: steps they got to get to that, but I believe 493 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 5: that this team is capable of achieving that goal with 494 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 5: with the with the right work to just. 495 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: Put in. 496 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 5: What do you see from them? Offensively explosive, group wide receivers. 497 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 5: They compete their butts off, makes contestant catches. It knows 498 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 5: how to stretch the field and just explosive playst's. 499 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: Specifically, I wanted to ask you about guys like Garrett 500 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: Wilson Brew. 501 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm very I'm a big fan of Garrett as 502 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 5: well as Breece. Too fast guys to electric, guys get 503 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 5: the balls in their hand and it could be a 504 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 5: big play. 505 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 4: Wait to heaven. 506 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: What's the mindset for you now at this point in 507 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: your career, entering year fourteen, joining a team with the 508 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer here and Aaron Rodgers coming back 509 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: from the Achilles. You guys have a lot of combined 510 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: experience when you're talking about being in that room together. 511 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously being able to assist Aaron at any capacity, 512 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 5: but also staying ready for the opportunity if it presents 513 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 5: itself well at the same time, being able to offer 514 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 5: my leadership and my knowledge that I've accumulated over the 515 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 5: years to the younger guys within the locker room. My 516 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 5: goal is to just help any capacity that I can. 517 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: Over the years. What kind of interactions maybe have your 518 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: head with Aaron and how much do you appreciate his game? 519 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 4: I appreciate his game. I've said this before. 520 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 5: He ranks very high on my list of quarterbacks, one 521 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 5: of my faves. I haven't had a lot of interaction 522 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 5: other than pregame conversations postgame conversation, but I have a 523 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 5: ton of respect for Aaron. A big fan of his 524 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 5: games and looking forward to being able to learn from 525 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 5: him and and working alongside him. 526 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: Why A big fan of his game Just the way he. 527 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 5: Carries himself on the field obviously one of the in 528 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 5: my opinion, one of the best passes of the football 529 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 5: that the NFL has seen. And not necessarily the prototype 530 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 5: that you see a lot of these guys that I 531 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 5: was kind of conditioned to growing up, that you had 532 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 5: to be a certain high, you have to fit a 533 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 5: certain build. 534 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 4: He's kind of broke that mode and he plays the 535 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 4: game the right way. 536 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: How do you break that mold when when you talk about. 537 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 5: A well, when I say that, I mean not from 538 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 5: when I first came into the league, I was told 539 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 5: that I was too short. 540 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: I'm six to one. 541 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 5: I don't know there's plenty of guys that have came 542 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 5: after me, but I think it also starts with Aaron 543 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 5: Rodgers Drew Brees not being the six four the six ' 544 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 5: five stationary guy like can be as mobile as you 545 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 5: need to, but also throw from the pocket, make plays, extend, 546 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 5: extend plays as well too. 547 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 4: Just a big fan of his. 548 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: How have you been able to do it? Because you 549 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: were a six round draft pick out of attack who 550 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: had to wait his turn to actually get that first 551 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: start in the National Football League where when you look 552 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: at your resume now, most of your starts, of course 553 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: came with the Jets division rival to Buffalo Bills. 554 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, just staying committed to the process. My time in Baltimore, 555 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 5: obviously I didn't get a chance to play as much 556 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 5: as I want, but I had a chance to learn 557 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 5: from a veteran group of guys. I walked into a 558 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 5: locker room with ray Lewis ed Reed. Flacco wasn't necessarily 559 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 5: a veteran at the time, but I learned a lot 560 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 5: from Flacco and Kwam Bolden, a lot of a lot 561 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 5: of friends that I still have to this day. But 562 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 5: I look back on that time and it was those 563 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 5: four years prepared me for the opportunity that I had 564 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 5: in Buffalo, and from there, I just, like I said, 565 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 5: staying committed, not necessarily getting discouraged about the downs of 566 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 5: the NFL season or of a career, but just going 567 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 5: out and playing at a high level whenever you whenever 568 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 5: the opportunity presented itself. 569 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: Man, you're so level hated. But when you finally had 570 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: the opportunity to get a start, when you're out there 571 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: with the Bills, and we were just talking about it 572 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: before we started recording, what do you think about the 573 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: play call? Because here you are, you're getting your first 574 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: start in the NFL and just saying, well, actually we're 575 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: going to line you up as a decoy. And I 576 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: first played at receiver. 577 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of that. I never 578 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 5: spoke on that, but also it's part of the game. 579 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 5: We try to throw a wildcat formation out there to 580 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 5: confuse the defense. Ultimately won the game, and that's really 581 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 5: what matters is winning, and that's that's really what my 582 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 5: mindset is. I mean, stats, yeah, they mattered to the outside, 583 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 5: but for me, it's about wins. And ultimately we won 584 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 5: that game against the Coats. It was a great feeling 585 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 5: and it, like you said it, it sparked my career 586 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 5: as a starter and very thankful for that time. 587 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 1: What makes for a successful quarterback in the National Football 588 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: League Because you said, you're not a big numbers guy, 589 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: because you're interested in winning and losing. But with that 590 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: being said, I think one of the most impressive ratios 591 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: that you've had throughout your career is touchdown to interceptions. 592 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: And now you're joining forces with a guy like Rogers 593 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: number one in NFL history touchdown interception ratio. 594 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 5: Yes, obviously, protecting the ball gives your your team the 595 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 5: best chance to go out there and win. From a quarterback, 596 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 5: you have to be a leader. You have to be 597 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 5: able to perform on the pressure, and you have to 598 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 5: be a guy that the team coaches, everyone organization depends 599 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 5: on and can count on, and and crunch time on 600 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 5: the field. As a person, you have to be truly 601 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 5: the dependable person. And there's other factors that play into 602 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 5: quarterback play, but I think those those three speak out 603 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 5: to me. 604 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: How is your game changed over time from the guy 605 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: who came out as a hockey and starting with the 606 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: Ravens and now. 607 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 5: I think, if anything, I've just got better at the 608 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 5: things that I do. Obviously being able, I've always been mobile. 609 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 5: I've always been able to extend plays, never been afraid 610 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 5: to push the ball down the field. Uh, the game 611 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 5: has changed from when I first came into the league. 612 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 5: Not to get too deep into it, but I like this. 613 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 5: You see more of a spread offense. Now, you see 614 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 5: more obviously air attacks. It was pretty balanced early on 615 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 5: in my career as far as just offensive approaches. But yeah, 616 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 5: I think I've just had a chance to grow and 617 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 5: get more comfortable with the things that I do and 618 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 5: the things that I've done, and I'm looking forward to 619 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 5: still building and shoppening those twos and just continue to 620 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 5: keep growing as a player. I think each year, obviously 621 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 5: you look back at the things that you've done good 622 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 5: and you want to build on those, but you also 623 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 5: want to attack the weaknesses of what you could have 624 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 5: done better and. 625 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 4: Quarterbacks. 626 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 5: Each year you have to find ways to get better, 627 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 5: and it starts with self reflection and looking yourself in 628 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 5: the mirror. 629 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: How hard is that to start a new because I 630 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: don't know if a lot of people could do what 631 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: you've done throughout your career in terms of going to 632 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: a new team and a new organization and picking up 633 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: and then going to another team and another organization. 634 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 635 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 5: I want to say this too, but I think it 636 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 5: really goes back to what I said about staying committed 637 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 5: as a young kid Hampton, Virginia, having goals of get 638 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 5: into this this level. You don't take anything for granted. 639 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 5: You challenge yourself to be better, and ultimately you have 640 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 5: to say so in that. I mean, you can you 641 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 5: can go about the day. You can look at just 642 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 5: being in the NFL and you could just be happy 643 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 5: with that. But I'm always challenging myself to be better 644 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 5: as a person and as a player, and that's just 645 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 5: who I am. And I take those those challenges personally 646 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 5: and I attack them daily and put the work behind it. 647 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: What do you attribute to your upbringing you just talked 648 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: about Hampton. Yeah, as far as what you learn there 649 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: and what you carry with you. 650 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm the only child, so I spent a lot 651 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 5: of time my parents, but also spent a lot of 652 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 5: time playing sports. Hey you basketball, football, baseball, ran track. 653 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 5: There's just a little bit of everything. But I also 654 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 5: was fortunate to grow up watching Alan Iverson, Michael Vick, 655 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 5: Ronald Cerry, Aaron Brooks, a lot of names from just 656 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 5: guys from my hometown or the city over for the 657 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 5: next city over, and trying to write my own story, 658 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 5: trying to give something to a young kid back in 659 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 5: Hampton Hampton Roads, something to look up to. So, yeah, 660 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 5: I had role models, but I'm also trying to create 661 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 5: that opportunity for the next generation as well too. 662 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: How influential was Mike Vick with you in terms of 663 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: maybe his guidance along the way, and he's a guy 664 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: who had to stop here later out in his career. 665 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I learned a lot from Mike. We didn't meet 666 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 5: until I got to college. 667 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 4: I grew up. 668 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 5: Knowing Ronald Cerry very closely, Alan Irverson very closely, and 669 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 5: I watched Mike, but I didn't meet him until I 670 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 5: got to school. But he's he's helped me along the 671 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 5: way as long as as well as those other guys 672 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 5: as well, Aaron Brooks, Irvers and Ronald carry Out. I 673 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 5: thank them for my success, but I also just thank 674 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 5: them for being who they are and and uh and 675 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 5: helping me throughout this journey. Someone that I could lean 676 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 5: on and someone those people I could call any day 677 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 5: and they pick up the phone and offer anything, whether 678 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 5: it's just about life or about sports, to offer any 679 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 5: of us anything they have to give to me. 680 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: The longer you're in the league, how small this will become. 681 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: Because you've mentioned Ronald Curry a couple of times now 682 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: he's Buffalo. 683 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 5: Even last year, UH our officeer coordinator Mike Kafka, we 684 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 5: joked about it all the time. He was drafted the 685 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 5: year before me, so he had. The longer that you 686 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 5: stay in it, it definitely gets smaller. You see a 687 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 5: lot of familiar faces, a lot of people that you've 688 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 5: crossed paths with somewhere. But that's the that's the beauty 689 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 5: of this business. That's a relationship business. Definitely at the 690 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 5: you don't have to, but I think when you treat 691 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 5: people the right. 692 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: Way that that. 693 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 5: That lasts and that memory goes a long way for 694 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 5: a lot of people. 695 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: Give us scatter report what you're at at this point 696 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: your career. Throughout the years, You've always been accurate that 697 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: long ball. When you've talked about the ability to extend as. 698 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 4: Well, Yeah, I think I spoke to it. 699 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 5: Like you said, obviously an accurate deep ball passer still 700 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 5: mobile and can extend plays. I think the true definition 701 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 5: of a do a thread quarterback. 702 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: Defensively, you've gone against these guys. Very tough, okay, So 703 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: so what's it like behind center liner up against this defense. 704 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 4: It's tough. 705 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 5: They create challenges, especially up front, but on the back 706 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 5: end as well too. They have a we have a 707 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 5: fast defense on the back end, and in a group 708 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 5: of guys up front that can get after it. Linebacker 709 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 5: position probably one of the best duos in the league. 710 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 4: And just have a lot of respect for for the 711 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 4: guys on this defense. 712 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: So you're part of this free agency class and I'm 713 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: gonna let you get going here in a second. What 714 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: do you think about some of these big guys coming 715 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: up in front of you and John Simpson walking in. 716 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: You got Morgan Moses coming on board. Quarterback's best friend, right. 717 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm excited. I was spending time this morning, but 718 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 5: I'm excited to get a play with these guys. 719 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: And lastly, staying in New York, you don't have to 720 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: you don't have to pack the bags or anything at all. 721 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 4: It's the best city. 722 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. 723 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 4: Thanks,