1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Norri 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: with you. We're going to have two special guests for 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: you tonight, one each half hour, both for phone calls. 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: First of all, Reverend doctor Nick Nicole Sebastian. She'll be 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: with us at the half right now. Mike Sebastian, her husband, 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: known as the Dream Team, a psychologist and sociologist. They 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: met in a dream three years before meeting in the 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: physical world, and they teach people how to dream signs, intuition, 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: to decode messages, and their mission in life for higher 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: awareness and empowerment. They've got a couple books out, including 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: Sociology of Soul, Trust Yourself, and also One Step Therapy. 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: We'll talk about all of those tonight. Michael, welcome to 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: the program. Good to have you with us. Hey, George, 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: good to be here. Thanks for having having us. Song. 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: It's been about eight years, hasn't it. It's been a 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: long time. How's everybody been? Okay? Everybody, we're doing well. Actually, 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: we seem to be a kind of counter intuitive. We 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: do well in tough times, and we are having tough 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: times right now. It's almost unbelievable, isn't it. Yes, it is. 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: It's a time. It's a chance for us to actually 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: step in and contribute some of our some of our 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: tools that we've developed for really hard times when people 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: are having hardships. So this is an opportunity for us. 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: And Michael, you're the sociologist of the team, right, that's correct. 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: And tell me about this dream where you two met. 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: We met. I was teaching at the university and teaching 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: sociology and many many years ago, and I had this 29 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: very vivid dream, you would call it a lucid dream. 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: And the can you hear me, yes, okay, Yeah, the 31 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: lucid dream was I met this girl who was a 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: personal trainer, and her name was Nicole, and she had 33 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: brown hair and brown eyes, and it was a very 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: vivid dream that luckily I journaled the whole dream and 35 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: three years flashed forward three years who walks into my 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: sociology class but none other than Nicole, the dream girl. 37 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: And when I checked back in the journal of the dream, 38 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: it was the exact person. And that was a breakthrough 39 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: for me in the sense that I realized in that 40 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: moment that dreams were prophetic, and that they were a 41 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 1: snapshot or insight to a much much expanded consciousness than 42 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: I had previously thought that now that she had the 43 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: same dream or just you, just me, and it was 44 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: different for her. She said that when she first walked 45 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: into my classroom on that first day, she had an 46 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: in two to flash that gut feeling that we that 47 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: we have. She said, she knew in that moment that 48 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: we would that we would literally get married, and she 49 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: went home after that class. She went home and told 50 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: her roommate that she was going to marry her sociology instructor. 51 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: Good things. She didn't tell me at the time. I 52 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: would have thought she was a stalker. You know, that's 53 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: an amazing story. I had a call during one of 54 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: my open lines Michael years ago from a guy who said, 55 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: George listened to this dream I had. I dreamt that 56 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: I met this woman, this wonderful woman, and we ended 57 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: up getting married, and she's so vivid in my mind. 58 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: And then in real life I'm at the airport and 59 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: some lady is walking down the aisle with her roller bag, 60 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: and it's the lady in my dream, and I had 61 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: to go up to her. I had to do this, 62 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: and I go up to her and she stops dead 63 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: in her tracks, looks at me, and goes, you're the 64 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: guy in my dream. They both had separate dreams of 65 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: each other. How do you figure that dreams are connecting? 66 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: And sometimes literally, when we dream of someone, it's it's 67 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: an expanded we go into it. We literally go into 68 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: another universe and a dream it's a travel lague, which 69 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: is what a dream is. We leave the body, we sleep, 70 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: we leave the body. We call it a dream. The 71 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: memories we bring back. But the memories of that other 72 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: person they have them too. It's simply that they don't 73 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: remember them. And then the story you're just telling about 74 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: the guy at the airport, they both remembered. And it's 75 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: rare when that occurs. But I've run into people that 76 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: I've had a dream that been in my dream and 77 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: they said, yea, I remember a dream also, and you 78 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: were in the same dream. And the reason for that 79 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: is it's a it's actually a quantum physics thing. We're 80 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: all in the same fabric. It's called the fabric of reality, 81 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's kind of like a hologram, you 82 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: know how a hologram is inclusive. That's that's how you 83 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: explain the dream where each person remembers being part of it. Michael, 84 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about night terrors. We've got 85 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: so much to talk with you about. And then I'm 86 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: going to bring the coal in at the half and 87 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: then both of you had join us for phone calls. 88 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: What are night terrors exactly and what causes them? Night 89 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: terrors are you? Could you know the best? My definition? Anyway? 90 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: For me, it's it's a dream on steroids, and everyone 91 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: at some point on the planet really suffers from night 92 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: terrors or experiences night terrors, and they're you know, maybe 93 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: there's monsters chasing as someone's trying to kill us, we 94 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: fall off a cliff and the thing recurs, and the 95 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: night after night after night. Sometimes we'll have that same 96 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: recurring night terror and it's a message that's trying to 97 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: get through. Normally we have just the dream. However, if 98 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: if we don't remember the dream, in many cases it 99 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: will be amplified until it becomes a night terror. And 100 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: the best way for handling we have a tool for 101 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: handling night terrors. If you'd like to hear about that, yeah, 102 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: please go ahead. It's called we call it the one 103 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: magic word or Hugh, and it's two letters hu. It 104 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: goes like this, and it's an ancient toning technique. It 105 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: sounds like what the Christmas do something like that. Yes, 106 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: it's a it's a higher finer vibration and the hue 107 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: is ancient. It goes way back. It's a toning technique 108 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: that even the Egyptians had the sphinx. Not many people 109 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: know this, but the sphinx was originally called Hugh. The 110 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: Egyptians five thousand years ago named it Hugh. Greeks came 111 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: in and changed. They didn't know what it was, and 112 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: they called the sphinx, you know, the sphinx they named it, 113 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: which means unknown. But originally it was called the hue. 114 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: And they used to gather there to hue h from 115 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: dusk till dawn. And we we provide that tool to 116 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: our clients who are suffering from night terrors. And it's 117 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: real simple. If you you're getting ready to lay down 118 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: to sleep, you hue for a minute or two. What 119 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: is that supposed to do? When you do that? It 120 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: literally it's a it's a vibration or frequency thing. It 121 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: realigns the vibrations or the frequencies within us, and it 122 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: brings in harmony and peace to the dreamer. It literally 123 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: changes the frequency. It's kind of like taking your remote 124 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: control for your TV and changing the channel. And when 125 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: we huge just before we go to sleep, those radical 126 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: disruptive vibrations are harmonized and consequently the night terror goes away. 127 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: And it works. It really works one of the time. 128 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Does it make you sleep better too, Michael, Yes, it does. 129 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: It'll it'll smooth out those sleep patterns, the patterns that 130 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: we go through with through the rapid eye movement and 131 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: the fat of sleep and the delta sleep. It smooths 132 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: out all the patterns and leads to a much more RESTful, 133 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: harmonious night. One generally causes the night terror, some anxiety 134 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: during the day, some events, what happens Usually, yeah, it's 135 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: it's associated, you know. I can personally I had when 136 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: I was in Vietnam. I was in the infantry in combat, 137 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: and I came back and I had really really bad 138 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: PTSD post traumatic stress disorder, and I used to have 139 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: night terrors every night, and many times I'd wake up 140 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: laying on my living room floor. I'd sleepwalk with a 141 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: night terror, and I'd have a automatic weapon in my hand. 142 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: At the time, I thought it was necessary to have 143 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: a lot of guns because of my PTS a D. 144 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: And it's interesting I did not go to the VA 145 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: or to two doctors or medical professionals for the PTSD. 146 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: I found the hue and I started hewing every night. 147 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: I hewed every day. I would use for thirty minutes, 148 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: and I would sometimes I do it silently in my 149 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: head or softly just before I went to sleep. And 150 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: after doing that for months and months, the PTSD not 151 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: only subsided, but eventually it went away totally. Just using 152 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: that Tony, Oh, that's fantastic. I always wondered about this, 153 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: and you might be the person, Michael, to answer this. 154 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: We hear so many stories of people relatively healthy. They 155 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: go to bed and they're dead. They don't wake up, 156 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: they die in their sleep. Betty White died in her sleep. 157 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: I've known some people who have died in their sleep. 158 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: I've always wondered what happens in that sleep state that 159 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: causes them to die. I mean, do they have a 160 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: heart attack, but are they dreaming about something bizarre that 161 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: scares the living daylight side of them? What causes that death? 162 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: That's that's a really interesting you know, I think that 163 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: question has been asked for thousands of years and we've 164 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: always wondered about it. The other side and literally, when 165 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: we go to the other side, do we come back? 166 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: And it's a it's actually a mechanical thing. It's a process, 167 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: and we can understand it, but it's more of an 168 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: part of it's an intuitive process and an experience, an 169 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: inner experience that we have. When Saint Paul said he 170 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: called a dying daily founded Christianity, Saint Paul that Saint Paul, 171 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: he said, we die daily, and what he was talking 172 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: about was when we sleep, we leave the body in 173 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: an energy form, soul form, higher sell form, whatever you 174 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: want to call it, and we travel in other dimensions 175 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: literally other dimensions like quantum physics speculates about. And then 176 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 1: we come back. And when we come back, sometimes we 177 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: come back too hard. We hit down where we get 178 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: that Joel, you wake up, break felt all and we've 179 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: all experienced that. Well, it's a hard landing. That's why 180 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: is energy. We've come back and hit down too hard. 181 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: But when we don't come back, when we die, dyeing 182 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: is really a very very gentle, easy process and most 183 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: people don't realize that they fear, really fear death. And 184 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: when we die in our sleep, we leave the body 185 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: and we simply don't come back, and we're actually counseled 186 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: on the other side, if you want to call it 187 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: the other side, the other dimension, wherever we are, and 188 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: they say, would you know, would you like to go back? 189 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: And if the answer is no, the body is dead 190 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: because without our energy form, without soul, without whatever you 191 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: want to call it, the body doesn't exist. So we 192 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: just stay out of the body. So it is a 193 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: gentle process when we die in our sleep. And do 194 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: you think, at what point do people know they're they've died. 195 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: I've always wondered what the transition is like, Yeah, you 196 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: know it because you're you really have other other bodies 197 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: and one of them, you know, the astral projection. We've 198 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: all heard of astral projection, and we usually go into 199 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: an astral body on the other side, and the astral 200 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: we know we're we don't have our physical body anymore, 201 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: and we can't touch it and feel it like that 202 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: because the astral body looks just like the physical body, 203 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: but when you put your hand through it, it's like 204 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: putting your hand through air, there's nothing solid there, so 205 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: and we do get there's a lot of spiritual counselor 206 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: spiritual beings spiritual masters on the other side to assist 207 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: us with beginning to realize and be aware that we 208 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: are now no longer in the physical body. Won't I 209 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: won't call it dead because we're not. We're immortal. We go, 210 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: we go on as a form of energy forever. Do 211 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: they realize they're dead though? I mean, do they feel 212 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: the missing of being alive that? You know? Do they 213 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: say darn, I've died, dark gone it? Well, yeah, they 214 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: we do realize it that we've you know, we call it, 215 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: I call it translation. We just translate into another energy form, 216 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: and we do realize it. But it's a higher finer 217 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: energy form. The astral call you know, the astral plane, 218 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: and even the mental plane is a higher finer form 219 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: of energy. So it's not a bad thing or a 220 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: sad thing, like wow, now I'm dead. Isn't this horrible? No, 221 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: it's like wow, why. Really, A lot of people when 222 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: they travel in their dreams, they do not want to 223 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: come back. So coming back to the body is a 224 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: really tough thing. This is a rather dark place compared 225 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: to a lot of the inner dimensions, the inner travelings 226 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: that we do. Michael Sebastian with us. Their websites are 227 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: linked up at Coast to Coast am dot com and 228 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: he will be back with us for phone calls a 229 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: little bit later on today. What is dream invasion, Michael. 230 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: Dream invasion is when a lot of the Shamans, the 231 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: ancient Shamans, Native American Shamans, Shamans from different cultures are 232 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: able to because they've really mastered a lot of the 233 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: dream travel that inner travel that we do. It's another 234 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: gateway and we can go into other people's dreams, and 235 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: that is dream invasion, and we can manipulate them in 236 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: the dream state. And it's it's a higher form of 237 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: manipulation because we can we can plant seeds things that 238 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: we want those people to do, how we want them 239 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: to behave, how we want them to react. We can 240 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: plant those ideas and seeds and behavior by going into 241 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: their dreams. And it occurs quite a bit. It's a 242 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: form of you could call it. It's labeled as black 243 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: magic in the sense that it's a negative it's a 244 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: negative thing. It's not a healing thing. So we can 245 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: go into people's dreams and manipulate them. There's been a few, 246 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: more than a few Hollywood movies based on dream manipulation. 247 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: Do we have that kind of division within military doing 248 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: these strange things? You mean, have we Have we done 249 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,359 Speaker 1: the research and do we use that sort of technology 250 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: to manipulate our other cultures and our enemies that sort 251 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: of thing. Yeah, yes, we do. That's it's been developed 252 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: for a long long time, the importance of dream and 253 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: dream manipulation and going into projecting. It's called projecting and 254 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: projecting into other people's dreams, and it's done, you know, 255 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: it's really done through thought and feeling. We can we 256 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: can project by visualizing and then feeling it and projecting 257 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: into other people's energy because we're all connected. And that's 258 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, you say, well, how do you do that? 259 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: It was a quantum fellow by the name of a 260 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: quantum physicist by the name of John Bell, maybe fifty 261 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: years ago or more. He proved that everything in the universe, 262 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: everything is connected. And that's that's not speculation, that's quantum mathematics. 263 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: And what it means is that we are connected to 264 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: everyone else in the universe, every person and every animal, cat, 265 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: We're all connected at some point, so it's easy to 266 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: protect into their dreams. You mentioned Hollywood. In two thy 267 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: ten they came out with inception with Leonardo DiCaprio about 268 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: going into dreams to steal corporate secrets and stuff like that. 269 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: That's very uh, actually, that's very accurate. People you know 270 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: saw it probably as an advanced fantasy, but it's really 271 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: based on fact. It's really based on fact in the 272 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: sense that it's been developed by certainly by the military 273 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: and by other different powers around the world that have 274 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: used it to go into people's dreams. And indeed, yes, 275 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 276 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: one am Eastern and go to Coast to Coast am 277 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: dot com for more