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Speaker 1: Good morning. This is Steo Henderson from Median House. I'm

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Speaker 1: in a San Jose, California is I was asks to

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Speaker 1: come out here to investigate the unhoused, the houseless situation here.

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Speaker 1: I went twice to Santel Louis Obispo to look at

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Speaker 1: some situations there, and I have been covering Los Angeles, California,

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Speaker 1: and it is my aim at Median House is to

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Speaker 1: So this is the first of mini series that I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be in other places to examine the realities

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Speaker 1: of a houselessness and where the cities and basically the

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Speaker 1: world looks at the unhoused community and how they treat them.

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Speaker 1: So behind me is a very tranquil or very beautiful background,

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Speaker 1: but if you take a step one, two, three, four, five,

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Speaker 1: you will see behind me where there is a different reality.

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Speaker 1: This is the reality that the rest of the world

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Speaker 1: don't want you to see. This is where and in

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Speaker 1: such beauty there's people trying to survive and make it

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Speaker 1: from day to day. I've interviewed a few people here

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Speaker 1: on how it is, how they lived out here and

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Speaker 1: had the story is that they didn't magically appear out here,

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Speaker 1: that they had different circumstances, but the end result that

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Speaker 1: common as well as how they have discarded our houseless community,

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Speaker 1: our vulnerable community, our disabled community, and the unfortunately people

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Speaker 1: they treat them as well as a society. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot of work to do and a lot to

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Speaker 1: unpack and how we view people. And this way in

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Speaker 1: our viewpoint of always criminalizing it, we've allowed our city

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Speaker 1: council members to run a rough shot without checks and

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Speaker 1: ballances and without accountability, and thus they have become the

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Speaker 1: criminals that they proclaimed to be against. This is the

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Speaker 1: Henderson from Edion House, and I hope we learn and

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Speaker 1: we again meet in the light of understanding today. This

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Speaker 1: is the Jo Henderson from weedyon howse I'm here in

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Speaker 1: San Jose, California, and I'm talking to one of our

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Speaker 1: of stories about his disability. So what I for to do?

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Speaker 1: Let's get his name? What's your name, sir, Bill Pittrick?

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Speaker 1: Bill Pritrid? So how long have you been out in

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Speaker 1: the streets? Ten years? Ten years? What happened? You still

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Speaker 1: was telling us about your disability? What's happened there? I

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Speaker 1: So I messed up my disability. So I had to

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Speaker 1: wait to reapply. And now I'm ready for so security.

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Speaker 1: So I applied my soil security at sixty two. I

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Speaker 1: got no choice, all right, Right, I can fight disability,

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Speaker 1: drag on that some of your little tiny chicks stay alive,

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Speaker 1: but just put it would have been nothing. So what's

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Speaker 1: what do you think? Because you know what's just going

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Speaker 1: on with the COVID nineteen, how are you handling it?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Did anybody tell you anything? Did they

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Speaker 1: we'd be totally leave. We've got we've got a twenty

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Speaker 1: you know what I know about is stay away. I

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Speaker 1: You know, I try. Not too happy, but that's better. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you know how you said you've been in the

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Speaker 1: house for ten years. I've been for seven. What what

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Speaker 1: and I've been in I need them lived. You know,

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Speaker 1: here a rock one morning, sir, how are you? Said?

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Speaker 1: Why we need yesteryear? And goes you're a good man

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Well this the one that you knew

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Speaker 1: so sorry. Sorry to hear that. So it does get wrong,

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Speaker 1: right right, right, man, much better deal. Yeah. Yeah. You

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Speaker 1: I said, well, and that makes a lot more sense

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Speaker 1: because that I'm right there, you know. Yeah, I'm in

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Speaker 1: myself security. I'm giving a good morning sir. We're out

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Speaker 1: name is the what's your name, sir? Daniel? Daniel? Uh So?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? How long have you been out here?

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Speaker 1: Almost two years? Two minutes? What? What? What what made

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Speaker 1: out Homewood? So got out of who homewood? I don't

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Speaker 1: house people have COVID nineteen. No, I don't really didn't

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Speaker 1: Would you be okay with you like the tiny homes idea?

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Speaker 1: Daniel done and John this Isteo Henderson from Median House,

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Speaker 1: I thank you very much for your time. You having

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Speaker 1: in San Jose. Lydia Ramos, one of the nimbi's claims

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Speaker 1: hostile view of the in house community. On Tuesday, December one,

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Speaker 1: not decreasing this year in Aspen, Colorado. There will be

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Speaker 1: It's the question. I'm THEO Henderson and this is Unhoused News.

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Speaker 1: This is the Jo Henderson for Wodian House, and we

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Speaker 1: he take me? I think he's been into the Oh good,

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Speaker 1: a nice and nice huge There was one in particular

427
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: off of Thirteenth Street that was a mansion that we

428
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: had the funding for to put people in, and the

429
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: neighbors just all band together and shut it down. And

430
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: the reality is they're unhoused people on the street anyway,

431
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: so why not have them in a house, And to

432
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: me it seems much better than but for whatever reason,

433
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: the neighbors just decided they didn't. We don't want them here,

434
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: We don't want them to come to our street. Do

435
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: you guys have what is you guys's ordnances against unhouse people?

436
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: Because like, again, do you guys have ordnances? I actually

437
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: don't know as yeah, because I'm just curious because I

438
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: don't hear the numbers branded out like for example, I

439
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen like in Los Angeles, they

440
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: got these big signs all on the polls and things

441
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: like that they make it very clear that they don't

442
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: want to house people. That's the difference with San Jose.

443
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: You you don't see those kind of things. It's like

444
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: it's it was really weird. It's very telling. It's a

445
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: part of our community and our lives, and I think

446
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: it's a part of our culture going back decades. I mean,

447
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: we've always to be honest, there's always been a homeless

448
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: community here. You know, going back to the hippies in

449
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: the sixties and the seventies, they lived in communities in

450
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: the parks, right, and you know, things changed over the years,

451
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: but you know, there's certainly always been that kind of

452
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: community here as a positive thing, not a negative thing.

453
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: I think there's a different attitude here, maybe not a

454
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: huge difference, but at least different than lay how viewed

455
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: the homelessness here. Yeah, I kind of convinced that a

456
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: bit because when I walked down and I was looking investigating,

457
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: people were speaking to me, which is a bit unique

458
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles because it's just true. I mean, I

459
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: was very shocked, right, these people are actually speaking to me,

460
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: because you know, La has it own kind of synergy.

461
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 1: They just you know, they're very distrustful or very looking

462
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 1: at you. You know, you know, you know, even you

463
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: guys are well dressed. They're not gonna necessarily say anything

464
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: to you, you know, and that and if they see

465
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: you in the park too long, then they're gonna be

466
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: dialing three point one or you know, the police because

467
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: they don't know you. And next thing, you know, you're

468
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: having to explain yourself, Well, I'm just here, just sitting

469
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: in the park where you can't be sitting in the

470
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: r you're homeless when I'm not homeless, Well let me

471
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: see you idea, you know, that kind of thing. So

472
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: it's it's there's been some interesting conversations I've had with

473
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: people that sometimes visited some of the parks that I

474
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: go to that you know, I'm just sitting here, and

475
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was so that they really want

476
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: to make their imprint known that they are not welcoming

477
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: to unhoused people. So it's a little bit different here.

478
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: I yet to saw a police officer until earlier, maybe

479
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 1: later in the evening, maybe I saw like two police

480
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: cars and it was at the police station. So I

481
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: don't see that. Next that obsessive driving around, you know,

482
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: pulling up unhoused people like like Los Angeles. You could,

483
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: I guarantee you you will see a these five cars.

484
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: The police. Generally, my experience with the police is they

485
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: tend to leave on house people alone in San Jose

486
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: unless there's an active crime and and so it's it's

487
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: that's not there. It's not a crime to be unhoused,

488
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: and they truly embrace that, whereas like Los Angeles they

489
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: just use that as double speak. You know, it's not

490
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: it's not a crime to be in house. But here's

491
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: three poet one. If you see on house people in

492
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: your neighborhood, that might be I mean, you might get

493
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: a different story from someone who's actually experiencing it. But

494
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: that's what I've noted. Oh I bet she will. Yeah,

495
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure, day and I'm sure. But in LA when

496
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: I do outreach, though, police will be around me. You know,

497
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: I've never been stopped here doing out You can definitely sell.

498
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: That's something I can say first hand. Absolutely, So you

499
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: could actually tell the difference. And it doesn't matter if

500
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: you just look the part or if you happen to

501
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: have the temerity to help that on house person. Yeah,

502
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna be looked at. You know, they're gonna be

503
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: pulling up on you and following you, and that kind

504
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: of thing. So there's a lot more suspicion of not

505
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: just unhouse people, but people who are working with unhouse

506
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: people that I haven't personally doubled carers. Wow. Yeah, very

507
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: very very polarized. And yet here we had a recent

508
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: meeting and here is like one of the council members

509
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: denying that the on house are criminalized. But you know

510
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: that's you know Joe Bisconno, yes, he lives in his

511
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: own twilight zone. But so, you know, is there anything

512
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: that do you think the city could do to create

513
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: a better system for helping gun house people that even

514
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: though that they're not letting the police be the ones

515
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: that are at the front of it, But what are

516
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: they about the service providers that are helping house unhouse people,

517
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, the shelters and what the gentlemen that I

518
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: interviewed today that he was in a shelter but he

519
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: had PTSD. He didn't think it was he couldn't handle

520
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: it because you know, shelters sometimes offer a little bit

521
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: more stringency or a little more rope discipline, I want

522
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: to say, discipline, Yeah, you know, kind of little bit castle. Yeah, yeah, well,

523
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, but a lot of people don't want

524
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: to be in shelters for various reasons, and that's completely

525
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: understandable and okay, and uh, what was your question though?

526
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: What I think I was going to say, what do

527
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: you think the city could do for solutions? Because if

528
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: shelters don't work, why can't they just do maybe a

529
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: hotel room key or they can do a a encampment

530
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: to home kind of program, do you think. I think

531
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: a lot of that gets kind of gets away from

532
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: what the city can do and then gets more into

533
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: what housed people can do, because you know, as she mentioned,

534
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: and there have been a lot of kind of room

535
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: keyp type projects and a lot of people aren't as

536
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: receptive to that, and so I think it then gets

537
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: on our shoulders. It's house peoples. If you're gonna try

538
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: to prevent these things in your community, then you can't expect,

539
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, the city to do things if you're going

540
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: to try to shut it down. So it really just

541
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: gets to kind of stopping nimbi's from doing their things. Well.

542
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: I think also to answer your question, we've got a

543
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: little Discovery channel going on here. To answer your question,

544
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: I think the city is trying a lot of things,

545
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: and I think they've got a lot of ideas. There's

546
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: a lot of pilot programs, but scaling those programs is

547
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: the real difficulty. Right. It's it's one thing to set

548
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: up a house for people in one community. There's another

549
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: to handle the vast number of people that need it,

550
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: and we need thousands of them, right, you know we

551
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: need to grow at three million new housing units just

552
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: to keep the prices from housing and rent from going up. Yeah, correct,

553
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: and near that problem, you need to reallocate money. We

554
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: didn't need to reallocate money, and that didn't happen. But

555
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: also I think too, do you think the nimbiism that

556
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: drives it to because like like you said, because I

557
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 1: know in Los Angeles they could do a lot of things,

558
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: but they keep giving over it, like a fifty four

559
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: percent of our budget is to the police. I mean,

560
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: so you know you can't when people keep complaining about

561
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 1: trying to get it changed, and then you keep putting

562
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: throwing money at police officers and you know, nobody else

563
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: get any money. Maybe you know that's because the voters

564
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: believe that this problem should just disappear, and they believe

565
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: that police can make it disappear. And so I mean,

566
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: that's the problem is that they don't understand where the

567
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: money should be going, and it should be going to

568
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: people on We have one hotel actually on the Alameda

569
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: where they do allow people to go in and shower

570
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: when between you know, room cleanings and things right right,

571
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: but that's just few and far between, and of course

572
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: most people don't want to don't want to let their businesses,

573
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: you know, be used by unhouse people. Another thing too

574
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: is that I was just interested. Uh one of the

575
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: gentlemen was selling me. Is that it's very difficult to

576
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: leave your belongings because like today, one of the residents

577
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: was afraid that's gonna get thrown in the trash. So

578
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: you don't want to take a chance to go to

579
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: this thing and come back and now you gotta get

580
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: start off. Yeah. Yeah, So that's that's one of the

581
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: biggest problems. And when you have all your possessions with

582
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: you is you you don't have the flexibility to even

583
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: go look for a job, yes, or to go to

584
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: an interview, or to go take a shower, or to

585
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: go do any of the things that you would want

586
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: to do. We had an unhoused man living here with

587
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: us for and he was just excited cause because he

588
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: could leave his stuff here. Yes, And he left his

589
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: stuff here and went and did some errands and he

590
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: was thrilled about that. And then I gave him a

591
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: tent and he he took off and he said that

592
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: the police took his tent. I think it was two

593
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: or three days later. And that was sad. And it's

594
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: it's it's it's so heartbreaking because one, it's also there

595
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: are people that are in the house that are work.

596
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: For example, there's this gentleman that works a security card

597
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: at the park and he can't he's working, like you know,

598
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: doing his what he's trying to do to build up

599
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: his money to get uh his stuff on his feet.

600
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: And he comes back and all his stuff is gone.

601
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: So you know, then it gets the point where what's

602
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: the hell of my what's the point of me working?

603
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 1: Cause every time I go and leave cause I gotta

604
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: go to work, I gotta go to job, exactly, you know,

605
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep loving losing my things, So, uh, what's

606
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: the point of it? And so that's another thing. You know,

607
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: when you keep using he says, the arm to criminalize

608
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: people they're not you know, it's gonna people lose hope,

609
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: people get frustrated, you know, and it's like, you know,

610
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: it's only natural. I can tell you how many times

611
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: I've lost my medicines because I went to go to

612
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: a doctor's appointment, or I want to rush hustle to

613
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: try to get on the housing list, or go see

614
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: a caseworker and I come back all my stuff's gone,

615
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, or someone has stolen it, or and then

616
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: now I got to stress out because it like I

617
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm gonna do. Now I gotta go

618
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: save money that I thought I had. Who's gonna put

619
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: money on for this? Now I gotta go back and

620
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: go and do the whole damn thing over again. So

621
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: it's like it's very, very stressful to do that over

622
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: a period of time constantly. So I also had on

623
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: my TikTok as a social media program I've had, I

624
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: had the sixty gallon challenge stress you Enforcement Zones forty

625
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: one eighteen. These are measures that are used by the

626
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: city and the police as nimbis to displace the young

627
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: house community. And I've been trying to get house people

628
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: to do it. What the sixty back gallon challenge is, Yeah,

629
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: like they just sixty gallons of water. No no, no, no, no,

630
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: A little more exciting and a little more fun. They

631
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: use at the opportune times of early morning and to

632
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: displace the unhoused community under ten minutes the place all

633
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: very belongings in the garbage back. You're not allowed to

634
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: get anything else after that ten minutes. Your mission at

635
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: Median House. You choose your separate and to use a

636
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: sixty gallon bag, put your belongings in or your family

637
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: memory belongings in and the ten minutes and they'll show

638
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: this on TikTok and we'll keep content some of them

639
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Speaker 1: out of the back. So, for example, you guys have

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Speaker 1: a lovely home, you're just gonna go ahead and say

641
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Speaker 1: they will not be it. We will. There's no one,

642
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: no way. Well, okay, so I wanted to say it.

643
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: So it's you bring a sixty gallon garbage bag. You

644
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: get up at five in the morning, and you have

645
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: ten minutes to put all your belongings that you hold

646
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: porton into that bag. And then after the ten minutes

647
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: that you open up, you show the camera of the

648
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: things that you were able to put in a bag

649
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: for ten minutes. After that, the rest of you have

650
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: all your belongings goes into their trash. So that's that's

651
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: what they do in Los Angeles. You have ten minutes,

652
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: here's your garbage back, put all your belongings in there,

653
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: and and after that and then you know, for example,

654
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: we've got people got their medication or their family's ashes,

655
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: or like the woman had her dead infant ashes and

656
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: things like that. She was waiting when she got it

657
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: home to put on the mantle and things, they throw

658
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: it in the trash. You know, all those kinds of

659
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: things happens. And I want the more and more house

660
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: community members to know that this is a reality that

661
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: many are really oblivious to. So so will you got

662
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: oblivious to that? And that is devastating to me. So

663
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: I was trying to find people to do the sixty

664
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: bad Gallon challenge just just to see the trauma that

665
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: goes with it, because I don't know if someone runs

666
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: up into you at six o'clock or five o'clock in

667
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: the morning, hey paamn, you know, let's get going, you know,

668
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: hurry up, you're taking too long. No no no da da,

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00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: your patticking and you're remembering this and and once you're

670
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: finished and someone comes up and put a yellow tape

671
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: past your stuff. And if you forget something and you

672
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: want to beg to get them there, if you go

673
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: over that tape, then you become Then you get arrested.

674
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: So that's another thing too. Now you become charged with

675
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: theft or interfering with uh the city employee that's taking

676
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: your stuff. That's just literally your stuff, legal your stuff

677
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: while they put it in the trash can. So that's

678
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: that's that's the sixty gallon bag challenge. So I don't

679
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: know if I be able to do that, but what

680
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: I can do is, you know, find out whether or

681
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: not that goes on here and voice my opinion that

682
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: I shouldn't go on here. Absolutely, that's one of the thing.

683
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: That's an excellent way of looking at it and bringing

684
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: attention to it to other people because many people are

685
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: not aware of it, And that's an excellent thing. That's

686
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: one of the whole ideas of why I did it.

687
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: I said, you know, and a lot of people have

688
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: came to me and contacted me and said, wow, I

689
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: didn't know this was going on. Oh my god, this

690
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: is horrib for me, you know. So that's that's one

691
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: of the things that I hope weedy and howse continue

692
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: to do to open up and knock on the light

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00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: of understanding to people. So you guys have been very

694
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: gracious just to give a plug out. I love their pizza,

695
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: to supers to dive for and a lemon, but I

696
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: have to be low keeping and keeping my eye on

697
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: inter below first because I was trying to hustle to

698
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: get those because I love sweets. So I'm going to

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00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: thank you guys for the graciousness of inviting me over

700
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: for your lovely dinner. And I hope my rest of

701
00:41:31,760 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: my guests we again meet in a light of understandings

702
00:42:06,760 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: as to cost to six as the old pass to

703
00:43:43,520 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: the pass there. This is ste Or Henderson from William

704
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: House and I have been here in San Jose investigating

705
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: the an house and the homeless crisis here. And I

706
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: have an excellent human being here that's talking with me,

707
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: and he's going to introduce himself. He's the Salvador and

708
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: Muslim and let's without further ado, let's get his story

709
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: of what's going on with Hello everybody. My name is

710
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: Cory Alberta Marvia Basketballs. I was born and raised in

711
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: al Salvador. I've been here here in America for thirty

712
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: eight years. I used to work as a character salesman.

713
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: I did everything in the in the automatic industry, but

714
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: due to alcohol addictions, I got to DUIs about ten

715
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: years ago, twenty ten. And then and then I have homeless,

716
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: great experience because being with other people, you meet all

717
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: kinds of people, all stories. My story is that I

718
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: love God almost everything. I have found out that there

719
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't need no material students to live with it.

720
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: That I can have everything that I have and I'll

721
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: be unhappy. So when I didn't have anything, they got

722
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: to go. Whatever happens to my life that I you know,

723
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: due to my addiction or alcohol and drugs, due to

724
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: do to the us I got, I got on the streets,

725
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: no job, you know, the lost everything, my savings. Obviously,

726
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: my life was a wreck. I was out of control

727
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: and I was searching for a God, and I was

728
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: mad at God, all this higher power that everybody talked

729
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: that God is love, the Gods everything, and I said,

730
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: where are you? So I was angry God because I

731
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: didn't understand what is God. I think God is everything

732
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: and we all got I mean, it's very very very

733
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: that's why we turn time we call a mystery when

734
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: we get into the socred books like the Holy Toral,

735
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: the first five books of the Bible. Okay, then we

736
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: go back to the uh the Holy Quran, and and

737
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: then the Holy Bible and all those kinds of merchants

738
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: that will all become one to the creator. Okay. So

739
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: my story right now, going back to the housing, is

740
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: that I got housing, and then I got case my

741
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: girlfriend domestic violence were you know. And then after that

742
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: I turned my life and I was on house for

743
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: like three years, and then they pressed me to get

744
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: a place. I got a place, but the place wasn't paying.

745
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: So therefore right there I got I got some kind

746
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: of skin disorder. I went to the hospital and then

747
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: diagnosed me there with rush. They gave me the pro medicine.

748
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: I took it two weeks ago. I go back to

749
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: the hospital and then they find out that it was

750
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: the case of the Schamings. And then at then the

751
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: treatment wasn't done right at the beginning. So I've been

752
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: dealing with that for the last thirty six months. But

753
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm almost there, so it's all good. It's been a

754
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: great experience. I don't wins you after my words enemy.

755
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: But going back to housing, I told him, look, since

756
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: I know your construction and I know most of it

757
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: to everything that you want to talk to me and

758
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: speak about, Okay, you by law need to pay in

759
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: this place. Then you want to get spread of me

760
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: after three years that we can get housing. That's none

761
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: of my problem. They wouldn't have affordable housing. And someone said, okay,

762
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: So nineteen hundred hours or maybe seven hundred hundred fifty

763
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty square fit. It was really small

764
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: and old, and and I ran deploymbing didn't work. It

765
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: was it was moldy. I took pain and I took pictures.

766
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: All that I reported to people. They know, so I

767
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: got all this witness and everything like that. So why

768
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: they pressed on it that I'm a green carter, like

769
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: I mentioned to you guys before, I'm from a Salvador.

770
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: So day start pressing for my green car, you know.

771
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: And I said, look, I've been through eight case managers

772
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: and they say if I'm not traveling and it's not

773
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: any immigration attorney, and had said, put a hole in

774
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: my immigration car, in my green car, then I pred

775
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: to get all the benefits that I do. So I

776
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: mean I don't know who you think you're dealing with.

777
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: So we went back and forth. It was basically like

778
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: an ego battle. Was every everything female, you know what

779
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean. So and it's it is and it's all good.

780
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: So I ended up being sick in the streets and

781
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: then where I was running from they got there four

782
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: years ago. He let me homeless, took my van first

783
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: and move it out of the place and say that

784
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: he needed a participate to put his cars there. You

785
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: have it right too, I did. We ran for him too.

786
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: I ran a group called Being a Star for Alcoholic

787
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: Anonymous and we've been around here for thirty one years

788
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 1: and I was from there for ten. So so right

789
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: now I'm just thank God for leaving with the pandemia.

790
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: You know, I'll be honest with you guys, and I'm

791
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: probably getting in trouble for this. I'll probably get the

792
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: CIA called me or chasing me. It's a plandemia because

793
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: the people that really go into the internet just to investigate.

794
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: And I want to thank you brothers and brothers for

795
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: coming in here to put a voice to the homeless.

796
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: We the homeless games almost send you the boys. I

797
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: want to be that voice. I want to be the

798
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: voice because you know nothing you can tell me. I

799
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: had to live in the creek, I had lived on

800
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: the bridges, I had lived all over. I had to

801
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: live in little tortures what we call it. What the

802
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: lady did. They they don't desert themselves. There's not the

803
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: people that want to sell themselves. The lady got even

804
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: the toilet paper in the garage, and she got the

805
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: missile I mean over there because she was crew kat.

806
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: The lady was running the place with Okay, the other

807
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: guy was the house. He wanted to direct through the shelter,

808
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: and she was taking these supplies for her own personal game. Yeah,

809
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: all of it. And then all the money and everything

810
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: and all the help that went there, the close and

811
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: everything that was killing it. And so the thing that

812
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: helps on house people when they say that the shelters

813
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: and that this place is shut down because the staff

814
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: was crooked. Yeah, big time. And you know it's only paper.

815
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 1: You can research that. I can go back to little

816
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: church back about two years ago, and then see I

817
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: can speak to about that. So now we're talking about

818
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: the Plantarmia, and now they want to get the Rusla Cup.

819
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: And now the Democrats have wanted the de pressidency. So

820
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: far it's argumentity. But I told Trump, you know, I'm

821
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: a Trump supporter just because he's a good manager, just

822
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: so he's into the interest to everybody. Okay, yeah, we

823
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: don't want to be political about it. If you just

824
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: the way that I look, he said, as an American,

825
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 1: I consider myself an American living here thirty eight years.

826
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: I pay my taxes. I'm grandpa here. I got three

827
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: beautiful children to have. Jennifer Ross my olders. She gets here.

828
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: She she lives in a pass swings. My boy the

829
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: house is own company, and the real Texas and my

830
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: daughter that she is in the San Antonio, Texas. So

831
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: all this coming around right now, downtown City Street Teams

832
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: is trying to put the boys into the homeless because

833
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: there's eleven million dollars for the County Stanley card, the house,

834
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: all the stuff that we're gonna do right now, there's

835
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: a flyer going on there. I might have for you

836
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: guys that you probably need to know because it has

837
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: something to do with the homeless. The mayor house is

838
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: sixteen eighteen. There's a deal going in parade and he

839
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: has a deal with they have like a guy living

840
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: and it's like in a creek. Okay uh. And we're

841
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: gonna try to promote more into getting affordable house in

842
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: the building and then so the other thing will foind

843
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: out what they building. There's a building here for the homeless.

844
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna build so many people. So all the information

845
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: it is right here. If you go to city halls

846
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: and they give you all the information for for for

847
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: what we want to do. But if you want to

848
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: come in here, I'm the one that can tell you.

849
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: Another team too. Thank God, you got Carlos here. You

850
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: got two voices. There's God working there. We can the

851
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: most thing we can tell. Then I can tell my

852
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: people on my channel. When I get there, I can

853
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: tell to my people and people will know this and

854
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: our other and people in Maryland and people in New York.

855
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: We were going to put the boys and everybody. And

856
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: you'll let him know that we are not praying, if

857
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: we're not a meeting to God, if we just one

858
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: and one and one and cry, we're not saying why

859
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: is this God your son? In this plandem, he says, God,

860
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: that's not God. God said that there's nothing for what

861
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna say. When the real time of hit he comes.

862
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, well, thank you very much, Thank you very

863
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: much for taking the time to talk with us. We're

864
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: going to ask try to see interview a few of

865
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: other people. Well, thank you very much, and welcome brother,

866
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: say thank you. We may come back and with the

867
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: piece of God be up and you too. And this

868
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: is Theel Henderson for me in ours. We're going to

869
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: continue the mill about and I hope we'll get meet

870
00:52:06,120 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: in the light of understand. It's a CEO Henderson from

871
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: Median House and I'm here in San Jose, California, and

872
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: I have met a very talented young man here. His

873
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: name is Rahem, and he's gonna tell me a little

874
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: bit about his story. Just tell us how you got here.

875
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: You was living with someone, right, and what happened? Yeah, yeah,

876
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: it's I was a resident in the community. I lived

877
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: here for about thirty nine years. And I know, like

878
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: I went to a local shelter and you know, I

879
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: was round about, you know, a friend of mine. I

880
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: thought I was a friend of mine, you know, and uh,

881
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, like ten years plus and all of

882
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, I'm I'm exiting. I'm exited, you know,

883
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: banished from the opportunity and being able to utilize the

884
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: services or any of that, you know, and then I'm

885
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: just like banished away from the place, you know. So

886
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: I know, like, well, i gotta find a place to go.

887
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: And that's what I found. You know. I felt like, well,

888
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: as a negative you know, indigenous person, you know, in

889
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: my bloodline, like I'm just gonna look into my my

890
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: inherent survival ability. You know. I was gonna tell you too,

891
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: because like for example, when you said, like he threw

892
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: you out during COVID time, didn't he? Yeah, that's you know,

893
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: I was kind of shocked, you know, to be honest,

894
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, cause I've seen a lot of uh, I

895
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: don't know, a lot of weakness going on since all

896
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: this has started. Call it the pandemic, you know. But uh,

897
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people that I've that I've

898
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: known enough trusts, you know, they're giving me the close

899
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: shoulder and they really a lot of people's colors, you know,

900
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: are showing yeah, yeah, straight o. Uh. There's a lady

901
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: being out here. I built up a little perimeter with

902
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: my my tent. She want a sicker dog, I mean

903
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: talking about she's spiritual and thisss sacd land and it's like,

904
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: but don't you know that the hope you know, they

905
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: say the world is koyana skazi, meaning a world that

906
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: has fallen out of balance because people have full lot

907
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: around the shore. That is quite profound. The hope he

908
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: does have a saying of that. One of the things

909
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: that's I struck me is too you guys are in

910
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: are s social distancing without the city telling you to.

911
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: It's very spacious here, your guys is to plate. Your

912
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: spots are very far away. Why here instead of like

913
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: in the city. Wh Why did you guys choose here?

914
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: It looks like an area, you know, it hasn't been disturbed.

915
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm surprised it hasn't been disturbed, you know, because usually

916
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: they try to regulate, you know, and push people out

917
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: or whatever and call the land or whatever they do,

918
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, whatever type of strategy they use. I don't

919
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: understand why being a resident in the community, I don't

920
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: feel like I just wanna leave you, you know what

921
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, Uh, I'm not necessarily a settler, but

922
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm out here sustaining as a no man,

923
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, But being out here, I like this location

924
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,479
Speaker 1: cause you actually have room where you can pitch a fire.

925
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It ain't gonna cause no harm.

926
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: You know, they ain't really bothering nobody. You know, everyone's

927
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: got their own little area and with a social distancing thing.

928
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: You know, the work's outse Yeah, how do where do

929
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: you guys go to? You use the restrooms? Do you

930
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: have a restroom or showers or tips? Uh? Porter parties?

931
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: Where do you got? How do you guys take care

932
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: of that? There's a service out here, it's called Dignity

933
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: on Wheels and they have locations that you can meet

934
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: them at. You know, but you gotta be disciplined, you know,

935
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: so you gotta have some type of discipline. We can't

936
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: you know, lady mother fat run around em kentucky about

937
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: you get all day, you know what I'm saying. Like

938
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: it's not but real though, Uh, you gotta get up

939
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: at a certain time. You gotta get there and meet them.

940
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: You know, they offer laundry as well, m and so

941
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: it's I it's a good practical service for the community.

942
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: You also uh mentioned too. I wanna highlight to two things.

943
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: One that you keep yourself in shape. You you say

944
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 1: you run and you uh keep uh keep keep it up.

945
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: And the second thing is that you are a musician,

946
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: So what do you what is your uh skill sets?

947
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: And do you do you have any music or do

948
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: you play instruments or what's what's your what's your talent yet? Well, yeah,

949
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: for Sean, I'm a local musician. I'm'a make it music

950
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: what local nineteen to nineteen years, I don't know. I

951
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: like a lyricist, vocalists, you know, guitarists just kind of

952
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: well rounded, you know. I learned how to play the

953
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: bass and the drums. You know, just try to get

954
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: any certain instruments, you know, and uh, guitar was one

955
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: of my favorite. But uh, I usually compose the music,

956
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, the it based off of you know gets.

957
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: You know, if I hear a rhythm or whatever, I

958
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: can match it up. And then if I hear it

959
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: I like it, I'll make a beat, you know, just

960
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: kind of mix it up. You know what it's like

961
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 1: to be a a musician like a DJ. So yeah,

962
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, I don't have to stick with my craft

963
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: and uh being out here, I I gotta keep my

964
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: mind busy, you know, keep my body f you know, healthy,

965
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: So I like to I like to jog, I like

966
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: to train, you know, I like to stay militant. Cauld Naw.

967
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to be a sitting duck out here,

968
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: not at all. You know. They try to move in

969
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: or whatever and then try to just gentrify the whole

970
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: thing again, you know what I mean. Then when then

971
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: it goes to our civil rights or evil rights, you know,

972
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: that's just not something you know, I'm I'm gonna take lightly, Yeah,

973
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: that I can understand. I gonna say, would you be

974
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: open to, like, for example, if they offered you a

975
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: hotel room or a project home key cons between the

976
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: shelter because obviously shelters, it's not hitting that, so what

977
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: about that? Would you be okay having your own spot? Yeah? Absolutely?

978
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: You know I feel like I'm I'm self sustained, self reliing,

979
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: and self confident, you know, And if I just had

980
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: the opportunity to open door, you know, I probably utilize

981
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, whatever services were provided, you know, and not

982
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: take it for granted, because I mean, first and foremost,

983
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: I gotta give thanks to the most high. Because I'm

984
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: out here unscathed, you know, ain't affected by this pandemic,

985
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: you know, and I just feel like my sustainability may

986
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: not be like others. You know, I maintain my position

987
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: because my diet, the way I live my life, you know,

988
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: so it doesn't need to be infringed upon. You know,

989
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: so you can keep your vaccine and all your bulls,

990
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, I'll be fine as an individual,

991
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: you know when you just have to find other individuals,

992
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, saying who are able to sustain a and

993
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: able to maintain and you've give me us a lot

994
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: of insight to it is like, I I appreciate you

995
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: taking the time to come out and be gracious enough.

996
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: A lot of the young houses do the same thing

997
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: that I find. It's always they're always at least pleasant,

998
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: and they have to be most sane considering of how

999
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: people think we are the most insane, but then we

1000
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: are mostly the sane and more giving and much more

1001
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: kinder people than I could say people sometimes that are

1002
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: in the house. That's not to say all at house

1003
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: people are not, but there are. There is this myth

1004
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: that people that are on the street were just crazy

1005
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: or are ready to attack at a moment's notice, all

1006
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: these kinds of things, but this is not true. I'm

1007
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: like I've gone through several different places and they've been

1008
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: like to me, been kind, they talked to me, and

1009
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: there's a truck coming up here, and I don't know

1010
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: what's going on here. Yeah, so that's all right, we

1011
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: can continue. Oh yeah, so I didn't want to thought

1012
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: you might have known them. So here's the So here's

1013
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: the thing for Sant Jose. How do you guys survive

1014
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: in the rain because it's been rained yesterday? What happened

1015
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: here due to the rain and the wind kind of

1016
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: picked up, you know, just kind of blew around a

1017
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: lot of degrees. I just kind of raked it up

1018
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: and I just kind of swept it up, kind of

1019
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: kept my area. You know, I gotta tarp on my tent,

1020
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: so you know, the land doesn't really affect me much

1021
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: other than trying to keep dirt out of my tent.

1022
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: Just trying to stay clean. That's really it. But uh yeah,

1023
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: I feel like being in this situation, just gotta consider

1024
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: certain things to stay fat, stay clean, you know, uh,

1025
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: clean clothes, you know, utilize your ability to inherit capability.

1026
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: The other day I made a little I just I

1027
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: just use a tarp, you know, on a bunge of

1028
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: cord and set it up in such a way where

1029
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: I hadn't heated up my own water, I took my

1030
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: own shower, you know, so say that's definitely cr uh resourceful. Yeah,

1031
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't don't lose touch

1032
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: or your ability to be resourceful, you know, especially in

1033
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: times like this. Uh. I heard that they allow allowed

1034
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: you guys to have the water on. Is that true

1035
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: or cause noticing the self spots, they used the water

1036
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: here to be able to use And obviously the city

1037
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: right now is not trying to do a big gentrification

1038
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: move over here because of pandemic. That's really just like

1039
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: nobody's really going to be buying and then you know

1040
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: that's just crazy, so you know that's not the plan.

1041
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: So it apparently that's That's one of the things. The

1042
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: second thing I'm also noticing again the spaciousness of this

1043
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: What if you guys created a community out here, would

1044
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: you be be able to would you want to have

1045
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: a community out here or would you wanted to be

1046
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:36,479
Speaker 1: back and regulate in this society? Absolutely? Like I feel

1047
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: is it sustains it self and we don't have problems

1048
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: out here. You know, it ain't too problematic and people,

1049
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: you know, but then you gotta whatever, you know, whatever

1050
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: kind of energy that comes into the area. I feel

1051
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: like the people who are here now, you know, very

1052
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: peaceful and somewhere crazy. And there are people out here

1053
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: on drugs. That's one thing to consider. You know, drugs

1054
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: changes a person's mind states of they're liable to do

1055
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: anything or whatever. But you know, if you have your

1056
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: inherent skills to survive, you know how to defend yourself

1057
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: and protect yourself, and you should be all right. Yeah,

1058
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: And subsid usage is an issue where people, some people

1059
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 1: use it to cope with the uh stress of living

1060
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: out here too, So we have to understand that. The

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01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: second thing we also have to understand is that even

1062
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: then they need help, they need a place where they

1063
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 1: can be able to get well. You can get well

1064
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,919
Speaker 1: out here, but you're still on the street. So why

1065
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: not take care of two birds with one stone, get

1066
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: them well, get them here. And then it's like, for example,

1067
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: they are people that are disabled, they just you know,

1068
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: I don't you know, they keep as healthy as they

1069
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: possibly can, but they cannot. They just it just won't

1070
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: be able to make the necessary things like uh, some

1071
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: able body or some very virile people can do. So

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01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: that's that's just all types of realities that I'm starting

1073
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: to see that goes on out here. And one of

1074
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: the things I love to say is that you never

1075
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: know what challenge that many of these people out here have.

1076
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: You know, they may not be able to be a singer,

1077
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: but they may be able to cook like this. I

1078
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: just saw a woman come over here with a meal

1079
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: that seek to defeed somebody. You know, they might be

1080
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: able a handy man like the gentlemen that we just reinterviewed.

1081
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: So there's several different ways people have contribute and can

1082
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: and have value. They find things to find harmony back

1083
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: into who they inner self, and I think sometimes capitalism

1084
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: steals from that and robson soul takes that soul that

1085
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: we believe that we should be all everybody out on

1086
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: the streets to just get a job. That's not the

1087
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: issue here because a lot of things that's going behind

1088
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: the scenes that we need to delve deeper in. And

1089
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: with that said, I really thank you for your time running.

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01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: This is THEO Henderson from WIEDI And how is it

1091
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: okay if we come back and visit you? Sometimes I

1092
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: feel you guys are welcome. Thank you very muchy we

1093
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: may bring some food too, because I'm a foodie. Sol.

1094
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: So this is THEO Henderson and I'm from Weedi and House.

1095
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 1: I thank you all for listening and maybe again and

1096
01:05:00,200 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: meet in the light of understanding. This is THEO Henderson

1097
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: from Willian House. We're currently here in San Jose, California,

1098
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: and I've been covering the beat on Los Angeles of

1099
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: the houseless or the unhoused community there, but now I'm

1100
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: looking at the unhoused community here. We have a gentleman

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01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: here in the studios that Scott Been. I believe you

1102
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: said you've been out here for thirty two years. Yeah,

1103
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm Morgan David sandraval and I'm sixty four years

1104
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: old and I after my divorce, I went to the

1105
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: streets and then I never went away and I was

1106
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: there for thirty two years until my worker I got

1107
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: a county worker, and the funny took he took him

1108
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: a year and deliverer over a year to convince me

1109
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: to come to the apartments right down there. It's called

1110
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: a villa at the park and there's a brand new

1111
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: placement or anything. And so I'm giving it a go.

1112
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: And I signed a three year stitch, so I'm in

1113
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: it for the three years. So how did you come

1114
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: out here for thirty two years? You just say you

1115
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: was in incrsbrated? I was. I was. I got divorced

1116
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: and uh I had a good job and hern h

1117
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: preanal and so I worked on I told my wife, Okay,

1118
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: you just keep the apartment in the house from the

1119
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: house and I'll go, you know, funch some more. And

1120
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: so I did that and the and it went along

1121
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: like that, and then I got so used to being

1122
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: on the streets and you know, like I said, I'm

1123
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: not afraid of anybody. And you know, I mean they're big,

1124
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: they can beat me up. They beat me up a

1125
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: hell of all the time. I got almost got killed

1126
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: by an arian brother when when I was living with

1127
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: my daughter, my this son. Yeah, how did what happened there?

1128
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: How did? I was picking up recyctbles, That's my thing,

1129
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,959
Speaker 1: because I got to see mother nature, you know, because

1130
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: mother nature is uh just running out of everything. Man,

1131
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: we're sucking or drive. And so anyway, I was getting

1132
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: all this recactble and I can hear it and it's

1133
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: a smaller fucking lot and it's like I can hear

1134
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: it rum the car that doesn't seem right. And I

1135
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: looked over and this guy's behind the steering whever like

1136
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: that and gave me the filthiest looks. I'm going, oh shit,

1137
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: And so he took off and next thing I know,

1138
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: I just dropped and I jumped up his heart as

1139
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: high as I could, and I hit the top of

1140
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: the hood and then slammed into his windshield, busted dad,

1141
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: and then he slammed on the brakes. And the witnesses

1142
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: said that I flew maybe about twenty to twenty five

1143
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: feet in the air, came down, broke an arm, fructured

1144
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: my leg, all kinds of cuts and boozes and averthing

1145
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: like that. And then this gentleman goes, you know, through

1146
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: from shooting, and he goes, I own I own these buildings,

1147
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: so don't worry about it. Those teaching young men right

1148
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: there taking care of that guy. And he goes and

1149
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: there they're beating the hell out of him, you know,

1150
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 1: And he goes, I called the cops and all that,

1151
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: and the cops came, ambulance and all that shit, and

1152
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: they took me and I go, there's my daughter's number,

1153
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna pass out. And I passed out. The

1154
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: next thing I know, I was in surgery and I

1155
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: can hear my daughter screaming at where's my dad? Where

1156
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: is my dad? And you know, blah blah blah. Anyway,

1157
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: So but that was that and then and and so.

1158
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, living in the streets is they gave me

1159
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: a chance, and I said, nah, I had enough money,

1160
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna go nah. So I I started living

1161
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: in the street. I was on Tenth Street, and I

1162
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: had one whole block with my own I had all

1163
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 1: on a pack rack. So I had collected and the

1164
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: selling stuff, you know. And so the police said come on,

1165
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: and then the county, and then the county got into it.

1166
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: And then that's what I'm here. And it's a decision

1167
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: that I don't think I'm gonna regret. And then if

1168
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: the if they once my contract ends after three years,

1169
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: if I decided to stay here still, I think I

1170
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: might just do it, you know, because I'm sixty four

1171
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: years old and I've had enough both on the streets

1172
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: and everything like that, you know, because like I said,

1173
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: I've gotten beat up so many times that I got

1174
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: so many cars and this is this is my latest car.

1175
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: How did that happen? Huh oh, three Michigan Nationals. They

1176
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: currently didn't like the way I was dressed and where,

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01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, I don't pever and and

1178
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm a i'm a I won't karate, but I'm I'm

1179
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: a quila to a plack bell. Because my sense said,

1180
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: if I give you a degree here, every place you go,

1181
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to report to the police. And I go, oh, well,

1182
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. Those That's what I'm saying.

1183
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: Missed the last week of the of the class. So

1184
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: I did. I went back to him and everything I

1185
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: got him and his wife are gonna get married and

1186
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: there he's from Hawaii and so anyway that do that

1187
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: and then uh so, yeah, I got in here and

1188
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: uh and it's been working out. I mean the first year,

1189
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: first six months in there that it was kind of

1190
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: rough because I wasn't used the house rules and all

1191
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: that kind of you know, I prison rule, yeah, or

1192
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: county or the county. I was in prison for uh

1193
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 1: a little bit less than signal. You know that California

1194
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 1: has a purple assault law. No, I don't. Why was

1195
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 1: you in the jail for six months? Uhuh, I was

1196
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: going to go to prison. I was in prison for

1197
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: six months because California as a burble assault law. What

1198
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: does that mean? If you cuts out somebody and they

1199
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: hear it and somebody records it, they can use that

1200
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: against you. And I was at a BTA stop and

1201
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: this big what's the BTA, I don't know, Valley Transit Authority? Okay,

1202
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: there the buses the buses, and so I was waiting

1203
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: for my turn on the bus and this big old guy,

1204
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean made that guy look small. That

1205
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: guy's I big this guy and he pushes me out

1206
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: of the way and gets in front. I go, hey, man,

1207
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: you know blah blah blah, and then in general yeah, okay.

1208
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: So I walked away and about a week later, I'm

1209
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm doing my normal busting and uh a car comes

1210
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: up and it could tell it's the cop cars, a

1211
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: detective car, and two guys get out and I go, yeah,

1212
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 1: and uh, what's your name? I told my name, Morgan

1213
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: David Sanduel and he goes okay and blah blah blah,

1214
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: and then showed me pictures. He goes, you know this person,

1215
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: you know this, Yeah, that's a big moose pushed me

1216
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: out of the way and and got in front of

1217
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: my at the bus exe over there in Morgan Hill.

1218
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: And he goes, oh, okay, so you do I recognize him.

1219
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: I don't know him. He goes, okay, well you're under arrest.

1220
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 1: I go, what, you go under arrest for robulls, salt

1221
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: and uh harassment? And for what? He goes, well, that

1222
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: big old moose as you call him, he's only sixteen

1223
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: years old. I go, oh, my god, that was at bottom.

1224
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 1: And I go, yeah, let's take me in blah blah blah,

1225
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: and in court, I'm gonna burnt the judge and the mama.

1226
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: The kid was so afraid of me. He wouldn't even

1227
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: go to the court with all those cops, chairs, chair

1228
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 1: deputies and sanday. He was so scared me. And I

1229
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: felt like crap. And so I told the judge and

1230
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: he was and he goes, you watch your pleat I go,

1231
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm pleasing something, but can I see something to the

1232
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: mother police. And so I told the mother, I'm sort

1233
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: very sorry that I did that. I didn't realize that

1234
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: your son was only sixteen years old, and blah blah

1235
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: blah and blah blah blah and and she goes, thank

1236
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: you very much. I go okay. And then so I

1237
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: turned around. I go all right, judge, do what you're

1238
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 1: gonna do. He goes, all right, well, I was gonna

1239
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: you could get six years. I go six years. He goes, yeah,

1240
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: that might be nice. I'm gonna give you three. I

1241
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: go okay, okay, that's very nice. Yeah, very nice one.

1242
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: And see I'm annoying them, and they sent me to

1243
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: a southern California prison. They wanted me dead. And so

1244
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: about a few months later, my po shows up, and

1245
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: now where they're gonna do to me? And he goes,

1246
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: planned the ball. Guess what I go, I don't know what.

1247
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: He goes, You're gonna be released next week. I go what.

1248
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, I got your release. How did you

1249
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: do that? Well, because you didn't hit nobody, you didn't

1250
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: hurt nobody, and it was just verbal assault. And so

1251
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 1: far you've been good on terms with the officers and

1252
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: the par and the jail everybody, right, and so that

1253
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 1: and uh what's his name, oh god, the mayor, I

1254
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: mean the governor. He said, well, they're overcrowded because they're

1255
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: getting prisoners from out of state, because the California makes

1256
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: more money off the prisoners. Oh yeah, they make a fortune.

1257
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: That's the way we got more prisons here in Santa

1258
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 1: Clair County than anywhere else. Explains the criminalization of unhouse people.

1259
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: You got that, right, I mean, hey, you know talk

1260
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: about that, you know, I mean and this, this county

1261
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: literally makes a fortune off off off of that. And

1262
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: so and then the upper state makes a fortune off

1263
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: the prisoners. So we get prison we get prisoners all

1264
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: the way from New York, you know, and they said

1265
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,560
Speaker 1: them over here because we got more room, and you know,

1266
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: and then I guess that you know, the district litistics

1267
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: of it where you can get you get some murderers

1268
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: or the kind of people in there like that. And

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01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: so that was that, and so I said okay, and

1270
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: I go wow, I go cool. And so I watched

1271
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: my p's and q's and my approbation and everything all

1272
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: went by and everything, and I was a supreme man.

1273
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: And since then, I haven't I haven't gotten in trouble.

1274
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: I haven't we did anything. I've been to county, I

1275
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: haven't been to jail or nothing. So you know, I've

1276
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: made a promise with God that you know, I was

1277
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: gonna behave myself. But other than that, that's about it.

1278
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, uh, this park here, this will

1279
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: used to be a heavy duty homeless park whenever like that,

1280
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: but the city has been working to get everybody out

1281
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: and should it is a normal park so that people

1282
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: can bring their kids or you know, you can spend

1283
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: a day looking at it, you know, golfers or the

1284
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: squirrels who are were around. And then plus do it

1285
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: we get a bunch of the ducks, the geeses. They

1286
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 1: love this park because the worms are here. Ball they

1287
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: got all you know, they were they Yeah, you can

1288
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: see there, they are right there. They work one side

1289
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: of the park and they work all the way and

1290
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: then they turn and then they come back and then

1291
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: they work there. They got it like a we're gonna say,

1292
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: you know, you know for post me dumb animals they

1293
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: pretty gags mark. You know. Other than that, it's about

1294
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: it and like that. So I was just gonna go

1295
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: and trade my pennies in and see if I can

1296
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: make a beer money. So you paint, huh you paint? No, no, no.

1297
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: I was a material hander in the electronics business, and

1298
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 1: I worked on the cars, and uh, I'm the youngest

1299
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: in the International Show Car Association. In nineteen seventy six,

1300
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: I was the youngest winner of of that uh show

1301
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: car or the organization uh in this is a lot

1302
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: of rama, uh, And I'm still in the record books.

1303
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: I was only seventeen at the time, and I clocked

1304
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: up Brady Buddy best Customer Tier, best custom pain most

1305
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: public Car, but afflictedtor avoid best best UH Car by uh,

1306
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: you know everybody else and so and my record's still

1307
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: standing there and I'm so proud of that. Other than that,

1308
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: that's about it, you know. And I got I got

1309
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: a son and a daughter, daughters and next daughters, head

1310
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: nurse for retiring Home. My son's an next Marine and

1311
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,759
Speaker 1: he works for the Veterans Administration, making sure the veterans

1312
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: get what is old to them, not what was given

1313
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: to them, because what's old to him and what's given

1314
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: to him is too Oh men, my god, my son

1315
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: was telling me some ugly stories. I going, no wonder. Yeah,

1316
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: a lot of bets are out here on the street

1317
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: because they don't get what they're supposed to get. That's horrible. Yeah.

1318
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: So he's he's taking care of that section. And so

1319
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: that's about it. And me. I'm too old to get

1320
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: a job, and everybody says it, but I can keep

1321
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: passing and fly, but no, I can't work. Get me Well,

1322
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: thank you very much for your time. Just to Ceo

1323
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,560
Speaker 1: Henderson from Wiedian Howes, We're going to come back to

1324
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: San Jose again to hopefully we could check up on you.

1325
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just go to the villa of the park.

1326
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: You'll find me. Yes, yeah, And I thank you all

1327
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: for listening and hopefully we'll meet in again in the

1328
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: light of understanding. This episode of Wiedian Howse in San Jose,

1329
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:56,520
Speaker 1: California has offered some similarities and has offered some differences.

1330
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 1: The most similarities is one on house. People would try

1331
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: to adapt in any circumstance, no matter where you're in

1332
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: Los Angeles or San Jose. The difference is some of

1333
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 1: the nuances there. In San Jose, they have worked successfully

1334
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: in trying to make unhoused people disappear. Los Angeles from

1335
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: California is too disally populated and it's going to be

1336
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: impossible to force people to disappear. San Jose's wealth has

1337
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: made them have a sense of fake concern and as

1338
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: long as they're not seen in the downtown proper, then

1339
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: they can be they can try to coexist to a

1340
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: certain degree. The first guest I interviewed today stated that

1341
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: they had a twenty four hour notice during COVID to

1342
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: extricate it, so tomorrow he may not be at the

1343
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: same location. So that is something that they have empotment

1344
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: in San Jose and Los Angeles. So unhoused people also

1345
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 1: have a sense of kindness that seems to be transmitting

1346
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 1: from Los Angeles to San Jose. And there's some people

1347
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: here that want to do something and want to make

1348
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: some changes. That's something that's also here in in in

1349
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: San Jose. So in the in the long and short

1350
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: of it is that houselessness is here to stay in

1351
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: some respect. Is how we treat our unhoused neighbors. This

1352
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: is Leo Henderson from William House. I thank you all

1353
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: for listening and I hope we will gain meet in

1354
01:19:20,439 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: the light of understanding. Don't don't do what do that

1355
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: peg doctor, don't talk