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Speaker 4: I mean, show a hand's here who is so done
Speaker 4: with the mock drafts and so ready for a real
Speaker 4: draft right, absolutely done with the mock you know how,
Speaker 4: we do know that we're ready. Earlier this week of
Speaker 4: feature story came out on the on the scouts, not
Speaker 4: the players, not the gms, but the scouts. M okay,
Speaker 4: deserve no doubt about it. But there was also another
Speaker 4: story out in the chime on the bells, you know
Speaker 4: the jingle on the TV broadcast that precedes every pick.
Speaker 4: You get a story on the chime on the jingles,
Speaker 4: and so at that moment, you know, okay, it's time,
Speaker 4: right based on all the above, let there be draft picks.
Speaker 4: Let Moni cook, and we're to talk about it on
Speaker 4: the Big Red Rage. Paul Calvis here, Ron Wolfley.
Speaker 1: There, Pully. Scouts are people too.
Speaker 4: And they do an unbelievable job, and they pay an
Speaker 4: unbelievable price, all the road trips and the miles they
Speaker 4: put in, and now this is their super Bowl. Right
Speaker 4: here we go twenty twenty five NFL Draft, and we'll
Speaker 4: get to that in a moment. He goes, guess what
Speaker 4: has started here in twenty twenty five the off season program?
Speaker 4: And so the players come in, they get going. We
Speaker 4: had a chance to talk earlier this week with Garrett
Speaker 4: Williams of Paris Johnson Junior and Michael Wilson, and you know,
Speaker 4: Wolf there was a moment where I said, oh my goodness,
Speaker 4: this whole method of finding guys who will quote all
Speaker 4: ball MANI and JG. Yes, you see it in every
Speaker 4: one of the last two draft classes they've done. You're
Speaker 4: not going to hit on every pick, and not every
Speaker 4: pick is going to be an all pro, but you
Speaker 4: know what, they have been very successful from what I
Speaker 4: can tell, and finding the guys with the mentality they're
Speaker 4: looking for.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it, Pauli. This is something that
Speaker 1: I think is trending very very well. If you're an
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal fan. The fact that many austen for it.
Speaker 1: I don't know who it is. Maybe it's Dave Sears.
Speaker 1: I don't know who it is. There's somebody that is
Speaker 1: actually sitting in there, maybe it's Moni himself, sitting in
Speaker 1: there interviewing these guys, interviewing all of these prospects, and somehow,
Speaker 1: some way being able to discern whether or not they're
Speaker 1: telling the truth, whether they're not, whether or not they're
Speaker 1: legit or not. PAULI, there's some way they're vetting these guys,
Speaker 1: these prospects, and they're hitting on these prospects. Everybody can
Speaker 1: look at tape. Everybody can watch watch a guy run
Speaker 1: a forty or watch a guy do a three comb drill.
Speaker 1: Everybody can do that. It's how do you decipher whether
Speaker 1: or not this individual that you're interested in drafting is
Speaker 1: actually a squared away dude and has the right mentality
Speaker 1: to fit inside your locker room. Man, you gotta vet him.
Speaker 1: And montiasin Fort and his staff have done a very
Speaker 1: very good job in terms of doing that, Paully, and
Speaker 1: that bodes well. One's a point, two's a trend, three's
Speaker 1: a pattern. If he nails this draft as well, that's
Speaker 1: three in a row. Look out. This is the way
Speaker 1: the Lions built their dynasty right now, no doubt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was some sort of analytic about the Lions
Speaker 4: have rushed the draft better than anyone in recent history
Speaker 4: in the NFL, and the Cardinals are making inroads on
Speaker 4: that over the last two draft classes. Think about the
Speaker 4: rookie draft class. No team had more two years ago.
Speaker 4: That is, his rookie draft class had more snaps and
Speaker 4: starts in any rookie class twenty twenty three. Last year,
Speaker 4: a dozen draft picks, not including the undrafted guys like
Speaker 4: Starling Thomas and Amari de Murcato and Elijah Higgins. I mean, look,
Speaker 4: there's a reason there are so many mock drafts out
Speaker 4: there because it's easy to put out a mock draft.
Speaker 4: You can look at the stats, you can look at
Speaker 4: the measurables. It goes way beyond that. So when you
Speaker 4: have a Garrett Williams, who guess what was taken in
Speaker 4: a Round three because he had a knee injury. But
Speaker 4: they did the homework and they had an unbelievable meeting
Speaker 4: once upon a time in Indianapolis at the Combine with
Speaker 4: Garrett Williams, and they asked them the right questions, they
Speaker 4: got unbelievable answers, and now he is an absolute building block,
Speaker 4: up pillar of your secondary And here he is earlier
Speaker 4: in the week talking about his excitement for the upcoming season,
Speaker 4: Eric gar I mean.
Speaker 6: Here's been a big sense of excitement because you know,
Speaker 6: I think everybody here loves ball. And so when you
Speaker 6: just keep adding guys who have that same mindset, and
Speaker 6: especially now having three years of kind of the staff
Speaker 6: kind of bringing in guys, they feel like fist the mold.
Speaker 6: You definitely feel a little bit more of a more
Speaker 6: focused group too. You know, even though it's only been
Speaker 6: one day, but you know, I feel like you get
Speaker 6: a sense of everybody's excited for the right reasons.
Speaker 4: And by the way, he was asked about what do
Speaker 4: you think about the Cardinals enhanced defensive front and he smiled,
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just like a running game. As a quarterback's
Speaker 4: best friend, a pass rush is a cornerback's best friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no doubt about that ball. It's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why I think we will focus on the
Speaker 1: box defensively as well. But Garrett Williams, this is what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. This guy. Think how much better he
Speaker 1: could be in year two as well? Think how much
Speaker 1: better he could be right now? Garrett Williams and his
Speaker 1: development right now. I look at other guys as well.
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior. You know, we talk about this all
Speaker 1: the time. We look at him and we think, man, well,
Speaker 1: you know, he had eight touchdowns and that was awesome,
Speaker 1: and you know, over eight hundred yards receiving as well,
Speaker 1: that was great too. I think that is going to
Speaker 1: be just a sliver of what he is going to
Speaker 1: do coming up this season. I think he's that type
Speaker 1: of player poly where he's going to develop so much
Speaker 1: more in his second year. You know that this is
Speaker 1: something that we have noticed with these draft picks, whether
Speaker 1: they're in year or two now or going into year three,
Speaker 1: we have noticed these guys. They are developing at a
Speaker 1: very quick pace right now under this regime with mantiasen
Speaker 1: Ford of course, and Jonathan Gannon. I think of Trey McBride.
Speaker 1: I think of Trey McBride. Okay, yeah, he's been here
Speaker 1: three years. I understand that, But Trey McBride, his rookie
Speaker 1: year was kind of a throwaway. He has developed in
Speaker 1: a big, big way ever since Monti, Austin Fort and
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon took over. He has developed in the last
Speaker 1: two years to where he's the best tight end in
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 4: Darius Robinson. I think we're all real eager to see
Speaker 4: what Darius Robinson looks like this year when he's not
Speaker 4: dealing with the nagging calf injury. As we found out
Speaker 4: into the year, he's never quite one hundred percent. You
Speaker 4: mentioned Jonathan Gannon. Here's what he told the media and
Speaker 4: when asked about what's it like to be in that
Speaker 4: war room.
Speaker 7: It's one of the things that gets you going, like
Speaker 7: game day. Honestly, you know, there's not too many things
Speaker 7: in the world you can do. That feels like the
Speaker 7: rush after the national anthem before you kick it off.
Speaker 7: The whole building feels that.
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Hog, I know, good point to that.
Speaker 4: The intensity, the competitive level in the war room, and
Speaker 4: there's there's a lot of that. I mean, obviously there
Speaker 4: are you know, does everybody else's big board look like?
Speaker 4: How are they valuing certain players? Who's calling? Maniasivoran mentioned
Speaker 4: the media. You know, when some people call, you know,
Speaker 4: they're serious. When other teams call, they sort of a
Speaker 4: reputation is being frivolous and they're going to try and
Speaker 4: you know, but uh yeah, don't think that this isn't
Speaker 4: how all the general managers and decision makers are ultimately
Speaker 4: judged drafted as.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, now I'm gonna say this, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's quite as intense as lining up to go out
Speaker 1: and cover a kickoff. Can I just tell you that
Speaker 1: right now? JJ I would I would say, yeah, you
Speaker 1: might want to be careful there for me at least,
Speaker 1: But I love his intensity. And this is the thing
Speaker 1: about JG right now, do you think players know that
Speaker 1: their head coach is an intense dude? Do you think
Speaker 1: they understand that you get a little greasy sometimes with
Speaker 1: JG because he really enjoys the physicality of the game
Speaker 1: of football. Not just a coach, not just a guy
Speaker 1: that believes in schemes and coaching. And watch this, I'm
Speaker 1: going to grease it up on the board right here.
Speaker 1: Not just that, but a guy that understands, knows and
Speaker 1: understands the physicality of the game and that the game
Speaker 1: is still about that. That's the kind of intensity that
Speaker 1: he brings to this team and expects out of his players.
Speaker 1: And that's why it's important you go out in draft
Speaker 1: guys like that, in sign free agents that think the
Speaker 1: same way.
Speaker 4: Now, look, we're going to talk to Dave Pass here momentarily.
Speaker 4: In fact couple of segments. We're going to do offense,
Speaker 4: we're gonna do defense. But it's interesting when you see
Speaker 4: all the different position groups have been mocked to the
Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals and a recent one, Wolf, I want to
Speaker 4: get to you real quick, middle linebacker. And I had
Speaker 4: a bit of an argument with Rob Frederickson on the
Speaker 4: Red Sea Report. Okay, there's a little PTSD if you will,
Speaker 4: about drafting a linebacker in round one. Yeah, and I
Speaker 4: get it. But if I'm telling you it's Bobby Wagner
Speaker 4: or Luke Keikley or Patrick Willis, you know if Johad
Speaker 4: Campbell is that guy and we has to And then
Speaker 4: I realized, do you know that Edger and Cooper last
Speaker 4: year the first middle linebacker off the board went forty
Speaker 4: fifth overall to Green Bay, and the Cardinals had Jahad
Speaker 4: Campbell in for a thirty visit. Yeah, I'm wondering if
Speaker 4: they're thinking, could Johoad Campbell fall to them at forty seven?
Speaker 4: That would be remarkable, especially since he had some off
Speaker 4: season shoulder surgery. I'm wondering, just wondering. Those are the
Speaker 4: kind of things that manias when you look at the
Speaker 4: visits and you realize the players that are visited and
Speaker 4: you start thinking, maybe there's the thought pattern of who
Speaker 4: could fall, and then you have to be poisoned and
Speaker 4: ready to strike.
Speaker 1: Boy, that is interesting right there. I did not even
Speaker 1: consider that, Polly, But is that a possibility? Of course
Speaker 1: it is. And do I like him? Yeah? Absolutely love
Speaker 1: Johad Campbell, of course. I mean anytime you're talking about
Speaker 1: a guy that plays in the box the way that
Speaker 1: he does, with the physicality and the strength that he
Speaker 1: does at the point of attack. You know, I'm sold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is football. Bring it, bro.
Speaker 4: I just love the vernacular, the language of the draft.
Speaker 4: It's like all its own, like Daniel Jeremiah on Kenneth
Speaker 4: Grant quote. Overall there is some assembly required, but his
Speaker 4: physical tools are very loud and worth the investment. I
Speaker 4: just love the lexicon of the draft right and the
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to land bau Man.
Speaker 4: I wish I'd have known that was coming.
Speaker 1: WHOA, whoa?
Speaker 4: Did you know that was coming?
Speaker 1: I had no idea. I looked up and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, a couple of f eighteen hornets right over
Speaker 1: the stadium.
Speaker 8: I'm surprised you're still alive after that. Whoa Hello, get
Speaker 8: a doctor in here. I had no idea if that
Speaker 8: was coming.
Speaker 1: I believe that's buzzing the tower.
Speaker 4: Oh so, legend and lore has it the day Pash
Speaker 4: actually hit the floor.
Speaker 1: True or false? He was under the counter. Oh, he
Speaker 1: was under the counter.
Speaker 4: Were they that low or was the crowd mic that good?
Speaker 1: No, they were that low.
Speaker 4: Because it sounded like I mean it most definitely sounded
Speaker 4: like they buzz the tower. That is the broadcast booth.
Speaker 1: Especially the F eighteen's right there, poly very distinctive tail
Speaker 1: feather very.
Speaker 4: So where does that come from?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: That was green Bay, the site of this year's NFL draft.
Speaker 4: That was circa two thousand and six. So here in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, the town of Green Bay will become
Speaker 4: a city bustling with the NFL draft and wolf. As
Speaker 4: you know here on the Big Red Rage presented by
Speaker 4: santan Ford and Gilbert. There are a select few people
Speaker 4: in this world who really sit down behind the scenes,
Speaker 4: right visit one on one with all these college players. Yeah,
Speaker 4: get on the field, watch them up close, you know,
Speaker 4: talk to the coaches who know these players' best And
Speaker 4: since the GMS and scouts don't talk to us media types,
Speaker 4: well we go to the broadcasters like Dave Pash ESPN,
Speaker 4: who has a first hand knowledge of a lot of
Speaker 4: the guys being mocked at the Arizona Cardinals. Dave, Welcome
Speaker 4: to the Big Red Rage. And when you hear a
Speaker 4: lot of these names getting thrown out, do you sort
Speaker 4: of not you do have knowledge a lot of these guys,
Speaker 4: don't you?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 5: First of all, that was like top gun, Maverick level,
Speaker 5: it was Green Bay, that was Maverick, take it it
Speaker 5: low and like you're not an for you burn yourself
Speaker 5: with coffee. Yes, that was awesome in terms of yeah,
Speaker 5: poly In terms of the names, a lot of them
Speaker 5: I've either seen on television, I've seen in person, or
Speaker 5: I talked to as well. There are several of the
Speaker 5: players that have been mocked to the Cardinals that I've
Speaker 5: had a chance to meet with more than once. So
Speaker 5: it's great if you know, you hear these names and
Speaker 5: you get a sense of who these guys are and
Speaker 5: whether you have a sense already of whether they fit
Speaker 5: in with the Cardinals. And I think there are several
Speaker 5: names I've heard who I had a chance to talk
Speaker 5: to you personally that I think would be a great
Speaker 5: fit here.
Speaker 1: So, David, when you think of from a position standpoint,
Speaker 1: what the Arizona Cardinals are in need of right now,
Speaker 1: and I know that many Austin Ford says we're not
Speaker 1: in need of anything yet. At the same time, if
Speaker 1: you if somebody asked you what you think the Cardinals need,
Speaker 1: what would you say?
Speaker 5: I my opinion, Wolf is that there are probably four
Speaker 5: positions the Cardinals would not draft in the first round
Speaker 5: unless somebody absolutely falls to them that you never thought
Speaker 5: would be there and that you absolutely have to take
Speaker 5: a chance on because you couldn't live with yourself if
Speaker 5: you didn't. And that's quarterback, running back, receiver, and safety.
Speaker 5: I think we can pretty much cross off those positions
Speaker 5: for a first round pick. I would say receiver. I'm
Speaker 5: probably born on that one, but I think more than
Speaker 5: likely it's not a position that they will take. My
Speaker 5: guess is they go big offensive line or defensive line,
Speaker 5: front or front seven. I do think there's a chance
Speaker 5: of a corner. I don't think you can have too
Speaker 5: many corners in the NFL these days. You can't have
Speaker 5: too many pass rushers and you can't have too many
Speaker 5: offensive linemens. So those are positions of need, but I
Speaker 5: would say everybody needs those positions. So my guess is
Speaker 5: the Cardinals will have several players when their name is
Speaker 5: called and they're up, they left several players they probably
Speaker 5: have in mind, and they will have made a decision
Speaker 5: probably at that point, and if not, maybe they look
Speaker 5: at trading down because if player A is equal to
Speaker 5: player B and you think you can get player B
Speaker 5: a pick or two picks later, maybe they make that
Speaker 5: move and get another draft pick.
Speaker 4: And that's interesting because the Cardinals have a half dozen
Speaker 4: picks this year versus a dozen picks last year. We
Speaker 4: know two years ago they got the most rookie starts
Speaker 4: and rookie snaps out of any draft class. So it
Speaker 4: just feels like to me, it's more about quality than
Speaker 4: quantity this year. But yeah, if there's an opportunity to
Speaker 4: maximize your picks because so many of players are rated similarly,
Speaker 4: then why not take a couple more bites of the
Speaker 4: apple at the same time. For example, there's an offensive
Speaker 4: lineman that you cover it any's sitting there at ten
Speaker 4: or thirteen, and you know Chicago or Miami is in
Speaker 4: the market for an offensive lineman. I mean, Dave, do
Speaker 4: you see a possibility of Montiasa for once again quality
Speaker 4: over quantity, maybe sacrificing a pick and moving.
Speaker 5: Up, Paulie I do. I think this is the year
Speaker 5: to go for it. I would have been surprised last
Speaker 5: year year or the year before if the Cardinals would
Speaker 5: have moved up to get a player and maybe cost
Speaker 5: them a draft pick in the first round. But I
Speaker 5: think if you're going to do it, this is the
Speaker 5: year to do it. And only Manti asin Ford knows
Speaker 5: if that guy, who that guy is, and if he's available.
Speaker 5: We have no clue. They might have somebody that they
Speaker 5: covet that they feel like as a game changer, and
Speaker 5: they may already have had conversations with a certain team
Speaker 5: thinking well, if this team is there and this player's there,
Speaker 5: that team's not going to take that player. We need
Speaker 5: to get up there and get him. I think if
Speaker 5: you're going to do it, the time is now. But
Speaker 5: at the same time, there is that risk of you know,
Speaker 5: you just don't know what's going to fall to you
Speaker 5: if you go and make that move, and so you
Speaker 5: got to be willing to.
Speaker 4: Live with that risk you mentioned many Austin Ford. I
Speaker 4: think he's loving it right now because there's seven I
Speaker 4: count seven position groups that have been mocked to the
Speaker 4: Cardinals in round on guard, tackle, D line, edge, corner, receiver,
Speaker 4: and now inside linebacker with Jehad Campbell. So okay, which
Speaker 4: way nobody really knows And that's the point, that is
Speaker 4: the plan. In fact, here's Maniasapport just talking about that
Speaker 4: having that need to draft a specific.
Speaker 9: Position, you can never go wrong adding a good player
Speaker 9: and a good person. So I learned a long time
Speaker 9: ago that you know, what is perceived as a need
Speaker 9: or maybe not as a need one year and fast
Speaker 9: forward three, four or five months later or a year later,
Speaker 9: all of a sudden it is a need. And so
Speaker 9: you know, we injuries happen in this game. You know,
Speaker 9: player's player movement that happens from year to year. So
Speaker 9: no matter where it is, if we can add an
Speaker 9: impact player that checks boxes for us both on and
Speaker 9: off the field, you know it's never going to be
Speaker 9: a bad pick.
Speaker 4: He also went on to say, yeah, they have a
Speaker 4: certain number of guys that they think are worthy of
Speaker 4: the sixteenth pick overall, and they do the math. If
Speaker 4: those guys are still there three picks away, four picks away,
Speaker 4: you know, then they'll stick. If all of a sudden, no,
Speaker 4: there's not enough guys there, what them boom, they might
Speaker 4: move out, move back for example, I mean, Dave, what
Speaker 4: about the prospect we're talking defense here. We know the
Speaker 4: Cardinals have spent reportedly about one hundred and thirty million
Speaker 4: in improving their defensive front. Do you think that precludes
Speaker 4: them from going edge or defensive tackle because this draft
Speaker 4: is loaded in both positions.
Speaker 5: Again, PAULI, I don't think you can ever have enough
Speaker 5: of those guys. And having done a lot of SEC
Speaker 5: games this year, I've seen a lot of these guys.
Speaker 5: I've talked to a lot of these guys. Walter Nolan
Speaker 5: is really intriguing and talking with their coaching staff, he
Speaker 5: really matured and grew this year. James Pearce is a
Speaker 5: guy that when he's on the field, he's hard to ignore.
Speaker 5: And I've seen Mox where he goes early. I've seen
Speaker 5: Mox where he goes late. Lamar Stewart I had Texas
Speaker 5: A and M against Arkansas in Dallas this year and
Speaker 5: he is really talented, pretty freakish. And then you've got
Speaker 5: somebody like John Ay Barron, who you know, again, I've
Speaker 5: seen him go high and I've seen in mox where
Speaker 5: he's lower. I think I would probably stay away from
Speaker 5: corner if it was me. But he's somebody that first
Speaker 5: of all, fits perfectly with your team. He would be
Speaker 5: the next host of the Big Red Rage. Great personality,
Speaker 5: fun and just a terrific player. So those are some
Speaker 5: of the guys I've seen and talked to that I
Speaker 5: really like.
Speaker 1: On defense, you know your guard, tackle, d line, edge.
Speaker 1: You mentioned those four positions right there, and to me,
Speaker 1: you got me. I'm sold. Give me anything that is
Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage right now. It's one of
Speaker 1: the things that I love. I would love to see
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals go on the line of scrimmage once again.
Speaker 1: If it's if it's a first round pick offensively on
Speaker 1: the offensive line, I'm good to go. If it's the
Speaker 1: defensive line you want to boaster or an edge, I
Speaker 1: am good to go on that as well. To me,
Speaker 1: I think the line of scrimmage is so important right now.
Speaker 1: And I love the fact that JG loves the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. His spirit position, I believe is what he
Speaker 1: has said in the past, and I think Manti ausen
Speaker 1: Ford feels the same way right now. If there was
Speaker 1: one guy of the butt, guts or the big Harry's
Speaker 1: David that you would love to see the Cardinals get
Speaker 1: at sixteen, who would that be?
Speaker 5: Are you talking offensive line or.
Speaker 1: Defensive defensive line specifically in this beautiful part of the program.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I would probably lean towards Walter Nolan.
Speaker 5: First of all, I think there's a chance he's there.
Speaker 5: A lot of the other guys are. You're probably looking
Speaker 5: at lining them up more on the edge as opposed
Speaker 5: to know one of your three guys with a hand
Speaker 5: in the dirt, and Nolan to me has big time upside.
Speaker 5: But we have to remember that they took a first
Speaker 5: round pick. You used it last year on Darius Robinson,
Speaker 5: and it really was a last year for him between
Speaker 5: the injuries and then obviously with what happened with his mother,
Speaker 5: he dealt with a lot. I still am really bullish
Speaker 5: on him, and you did add Dalvin Tomlinson, you added
Speaker 5: two free agents last year. I think I probably lean
Speaker 5: towards an edge guy as opposed to as you say
Speaker 5: wolf a butt gutt. Yeah, Walter Nolan really is that
Speaker 5: because he's a little under three hundred. But I would
Speaker 5: probably go edge before I go interior defensive line.
Speaker 1: Boy, when I hear you say edge, I think a
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart. I really do this guy. I love this
Speaker 1: guy and watching this guy on tape as well. I
Speaker 1: understand he only had four and a half sacks. I
Speaker 1: get that, but when you watch him play, his pressures
Speaker 1: and his ability to generate that pressure, his bull rush
Speaker 1: is as good as I have seen and a long time.
Speaker 1: You take a guy who is two hundred and seventy pounds,
Speaker 1: almost two hundred and seventy pounds, and he's running up
Speaker 1: a four or five nine. You gotta be kidding me, man,
Speaker 1: That is burst right there, and he's got the best
Speaker 1: bull rush of anybody on the edge. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: I'd love to see the Cardinals get Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 4: You know the other name that's noticed out there is
Speaker 4: Michel Williams Georgia. Right, they have two edge rushers out
Speaker 4: of Georgia. Mckel Williams sixty five two sixty injured his
Speaker 4: ankle in the very first game of the year, played
Speaker 4: on a bum ankle the rest of the season was
Speaker 4: still second team All SEC was a freshman All American
Speaker 4: three years ago. They just talk about how physically is
Speaker 4: the burst And I'm wondering, like, if that guy had
Speaker 4: been healthy the entire year, would he be a guarantee
Speaker 4: top ten pick? Is their value at sixteen Blue Jews.
Speaker 4: But it's interesting, Dave. You know Drew stand was on
Speaker 4: a Red Sea report recently saying, you know, what, where
Speaker 4: else do you get edge guys? Nobody's given away an
Speaker 4: edge guy. We had all these reports, Oh maybe you
Speaker 4: get Miles Garrett.
Speaker 10: Me.
Speaker 4: No, nobody's given up an edge guy. You can only
Speaker 4: get him in the draft. And after the Rams last year,
Speaker 4: right got chaired first nineteenth overall. I just think of
Speaker 4: that edge guys there, and he's legit at sixteen. I
Speaker 4: agree with you, Dave. I do believe that's where the
Speaker 4: Cardinals are going, if they're gonna go defense.
Speaker 5: I was a big Jared Verse fan for what he
Speaker 5: did for that defense at Florida State. And it is interesting.
Speaker 5: You've got a guyle like Shamar Stewart. I mentioned Wolf
Speaker 5: that I saw him really talented, bigger guy, and then
Speaker 5: you have a guy in James Pearce, who's a little lighter,
Speaker 5: a little bit slippery, a little bit slippery in terms
Speaker 5: of his ability to get into the backfield where he's
Speaker 5: not going to just overpower you. But I know people
Speaker 5: aren't as high on him as they were last year,
Speaker 5: but I wouldn't sleep on him. I think he's really
Speaker 5: talented and could be an excellent NFL player for a
Speaker 5: long time.
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Speaker 4: voice of the Cardinals, Dave Pash. It is the Big
Speaker 4: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are
Speaker 4: santan Ford. When the Cardinals are looking at number sixteen
Speaker 4: there give us a gut feel. I mean, how do
Speaker 4: you think they're going to assess the two thousand and
Speaker 4: eight NFL Draft and which direction do you think they're
Speaker 4: going to go?
Speaker 3: First two rounds? You're gonna be able to get a
Speaker 3: good corner if you're Arizona If Rogers, Carimarti is there.
Speaker 3: That's who the Cardinals take. You know, even if there's
Speaker 3: a Kalais Campbell there in the second round, that's a
Speaker 3: position you got to look at strongly.
Speaker 4: Wow, that was two thousand and eight day Pash two
Speaker 4: for two on the first two rounds of the Cardinals draft.
Speaker 4: That was before the draft day. Pash looking into is
Speaker 4: a crystal football, if you will, and nailing both picks.
Speaker 1: Needs his own mock draft apparently, I know.
Speaker 4: Do are we missing it? Is there a day? Pash?
Speaker 1: One point?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 4: That's out there, mister Pash?
Speaker 5: I mean, oh my well, let's just say I don't
Speaker 5: recall exactly, but I may have had help on that.
Speaker 5: I can't remember if I was given any inside information
Speaker 5: or not.
Speaker 4: But good, well, look, we're talking drafting myself too much credit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Voice of.
Speaker 4: The Cardinals Dave past joins us here in the Big
Speaker 4: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul calvic
Speaker 4: Ron Wolfley and Dave you know who Wolfson favor of
Speaker 4: young man by the name of Tyler Booker. Okay, So,
Speaker 4: as someone who has called a number of Alabama games
Speaker 4: over the years, what can you tell us about their
Speaker 4: standout first team All SEC starting guard.
Speaker 5: I do see why it fluctuates in terms of the
Speaker 5: opinions about him. I get it, and ultimately, you know,
Speaker 5: the only thing that's going to matter is, you know,
Speaker 5: is he a good player or not, Whether he's going
Speaker 5: in the middle of the first round or the middle
Speaker 5: of the second round. It's just a financial thing that
Speaker 5: ultimately it'll cost him. But I think he's good enough
Speaker 5: based on what I saw. And again I'm not breaking
Speaker 5: it down Wolf. I know you've talked about how some
Speaker 5: of the other people you've had on your show that
Speaker 5: played the position in the NFL are not as high
Speaker 5: on him as you are. I tend to agree with
Speaker 5: you that I think he's got a chance to be
Speaker 5: a really good player and should be a first round pick.
Speaker 5: But I also see why others have him lower and
Speaker 5: will I get the concerns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, for me, once again, it's all about production,
Speaker 1: and he played in a pretty good conference. I would
Speaker 1: say the SEC with some really good competition. Some good
Speaker 1: players had seven point one knockdowns per game, seven point
Speaker 1: one per ninety two knockdowns on the season that led
Speaker 1: the SEC right there. I mean, this is who this
Speaker 1: guy is. It's what he's all about. I absolutely love him.
Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, I could see him falling
Speaker 1: down draft boards once again, just because of the five, three, eight. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, could I see him down at twenty
Speaker 1: five twenty seven? Yes? I could. Is it a possibility,
Speaker 1: that's if you could get him at twenty five? Many
Speaker 1: Austin Ford might say, what do you say we go
Speaker 1: go ahead and move back a little bit there and
Speaker 1: collect some picks and then we'll go get him in
Speaker 1: the back end. I don't know if that's a possibility.
Speaker 1: I have no idea how much Mony likes him. I
Speaker 1: just know I do. I'll make a prediction. I think
Speaker 1: I feel pretty safe saying he's.
Speaker 4: Not going to fall out of the first round.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: The Lions need a guard, the Chiefs need a guard.
Speaker 4: He's not getting past those two teams. Heck, I don't
Speaker 4: think he's getting past eighteen. The Seahawks only addition to
Speaker 4: their jankie offensive line the entire offseason has been former
Speaker 4: Cardinal Josh Jones, who's a backup at best. So Seattle.
Speaker 4: In fact, I think Seattle's a threat to even jump
Speaker 4: the Cardinals if they think the Cardinals are going on line.
Speaker 4: You got to look out for Seattle. The other name
Speaker 4: that's out there is Calvin Banks Junior, the All American
Speaker 4: life like Kim too. So, Dave, you worked a number
Speaker 4: of Texas games. What can you tell us about their
Speaker 4: standout left tackle?
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a game he did not play in
Speaker 5: where you could really see how much they missed him.
Speaker 5: This was the previous year. He is very, very talented.
Speaker 5: He's huge.
Speaker 1: You know, I.
Speaker 5: Don't know about forty times. Does a forty times matter
Speaker 5: on a tackle? I don't know. I'm not sure that
Speaker 5: that really matters. Is he a left tackle? Is he
Speaker 5: a right tackle? Is he a guard? I think that's
Speaker 5: the other question. I know you want positional versatility, and
Speaker 5: you've got Paris Johnson now is your left tackle, But
Speaker 5: I'm just not sure where he plays, and I think
Speaker 5: he could play a lot of positions. Josh Simmons really intriguing.
Speaker 5: Do you have the connection already with Justin Fry which
Speaker 5: is big, but he you know, is coming off injury.
Speaker 5: You took that chance with Garrett a couple of years
Speaker 5: ago at the QUS and it worked out great, and maybe,
Speaker 5: you know, maybe with Josh Simmons.
Speaker 1: You get lucky again.
Speaker 5: But I'll be curious if they go that route with
Speaker 5: offensive line, if they want somebody that they have that
Speaker 5: they that they say, this is the position you're going
Speaker 5: to play, or do they go for somebody who is
Speaker 5: a guy that can play multiple positions. Because you took
Speaker 5: Paris Johnson knowing initially he was not going to play
Speaker 5: left tackle, and he held his own and played really
Speaker 5: well on the other side, can Calvin Banks be that guy?
Speaker 5: Is that person Josh Simmons or do you say Tyler
Speaker 5: Booker is a guard. We're gonna draft him because we
Speaker 5: think he's the best guard and that's the position we need.
Speaker 4: And I do like the whole scenario or the line
Speaker 4: of thinking that you know, your first round rookie Kelvin
Speaker 4: Banks or Josh Simmons could compete to be a starting
Speaker 4: guard maybe your area of biggest need. And then if
Speaker 4: Jonah Williams is no longer a cardinal after this coming season,
Speaker 4: you have the flexibility the possibility moving him out to tackle.
Speaker 4: And so I like that with both those guys as
Speaker 4: opposed to a Tyler Booker who's really gonna be a
Speaker 4: guard his entire career. What about receiver guys. I still
Speaker 4: the most surprising thing to me. And you know we're
Speaker 4: from the inside looking out the outside looking in the
Speaker 4: national media. How many mock drafts have receiver going to
Speaker 4: the Cardinals at sixteen overall? Well, if you're nodding, isn't
Speaker 4: that surprising?
Speaker 1: It is to me surprise because once again, I think
Speaker 1: the need is there for the offensive line. I've said
Speaker 1: this before, guys, but I truly do believe this. I
Speaker 1: think the Arizona Cardinals have all the skill they need
Speaker 1: to go out and be an excellent offense. I think
Speaker 1: they do. Now could you add one piece that might
Speaker 1: make it better in terms of the skill positions, Yes,
Speaker 1: they need a guy who can take the top off.
Speaker 1: They get a wide receiver who can take the top off,
Speaker 1: like a Matthew Golden who's running a four to nine
Speaker 1: right now. And what I love about Matthew Golden he's
Speaker 1: running a four to nine, and I think he's even faster.
Speaker 1: He's even faster when he gets in a game. And
Speaker 1: if you watch him with game tape, he's got game speed.
Speaker 1: And what I also like, he's got hands that can
Speaker 1: catch the deep ball because it does you know good,
Speaker 1: it does you no good if you can't hurt an
Speaker 1: opposing defense and the only way to hurt him is
Speaker 1: to catch the ball once you run by them. You
Speaker 1: need a guy who can do both of those things.
Speaker 1: I think Matthew Golden is climbing up draft boards even
Speaker 1: as we speak right now. He might be guys. I
Speaker 1: think he might be the first wide receiver taking off
Speaker 1: the board.
Speaker 4: But a good fit day for the Cardinals at sixteen.
Speaker 4: What says you?
Speaker 5: Well, going back to the last segment, I would be
Speaker 5: surprised if they took a receiver. I think if they did,
Speaker 5: Matthew Golden fits because he's different than Marvin Harrison Junior.
Speaker 5: I think Luther Burden is going to be the best
Speaker 5: receiver in this draft.
Speaker 1: That's just me.
Speaker 5: Tedoa from Arizona, I think has a chance to be
Speaker 5: a great player as well. But I think Luther Burden
Speaker 5: is a special player, having had him at Missouri a
Speaker 5: couple of times. Here's how I think you have to
Speaker 5: look at it.
Speaker 1: You have to.
Speaker 5: If Kyler Murray is your quarterback going forward, you have
Speaker 5: to say, how can we help him the most? Where
Speaker 5: we are picked? Is that by getting an offensive lineman.
Speaker 5: Is that by building a stronger defense with a corner
Speaker 5: or a pass rusher or a defensive lineman. Or is
Speaker 5: that giving him another weapon. I think he's got two
Speaker 5: weapons that you go into twenty twenty five saying these
Speaker 5: are two legit guys. I do think Marvin Harrison Junior
Speaker 5: is going to get better. What the ceiling is, I
Speaker 5: don't know. But you got him and Trey McBride, and
Speaker 5: you have James Connor. So is Michael Wilson the next
Speaker 5: guy there right now? He is? Do you think in
Speaker 5: this draft you can find somebody that's better than him?
Speaker 5: Maybe you can, but I just wouldn't use that pick
Speaker 5: in the first round. Maybe there's somebody in the second
Speaker 5: round or perhaps later that you really love that you
Speaker 5: think can coming and be that third or fourth option.
Speaker 4: Dave pash Our guest here the voice of the Cardinals
Speaker 4: on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert,
Speaker 4: can't let you go without asking you about the quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: Because more quarterbacks drafted in the top half of the
Speaker 4: first round. Guess what more premium position players are pushed
Speaker 4: down to the Cardinals. A couple of real while card
Speaker 4: Shador Sanders, Jackson Dart, I know you've worked both their
Speaker 4: games over the years. What do you think you got
Speaker 4: a gut feel as to where they're going and whether
Speaker 4: they're going round one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paulie, I had all three guys this year, cam
Speaker 5: Ward and Shador, and then Jackson Dart actually had ole
Speaker 5: miss three times. So I was surprised that Jackson Dark
Speaker 5: climbed all the way into the first round. Initially just
Speaker 5: people I had talked to him, kind of watching him,
Speaker 5: I thought more of a third round prospect when I
Speaker 5: watched Shador Sanders in person, when I talked to their
Speaker 5: coaching staff and listened to them praise him and had
Speaker 5: a chance to be around Shador, I actually thought he's
Speaker 5: going to be maybe the first quarterback taken. I think
Speaker 5: cam Ward is the most talented player. I think it's
Speaker 5: obvious he's going either one or two, and then I
Speaker 5: will be curious. I don't think Shador drops before or
Speaker 5: drops below ten. I would be really surprised. I think
Speaker 5: Jackson Dart might be more ready to play in the NFL,
Speaker 5: just because of his experience, but I still think Chador
Speaker 5: has probably got more upside, but it just may take
Speaker 5: some time, and so if he gets with the right organization,
Speaker 5: it's willing to be patient. I think that patience will
Speaker 5: pay off with Shader Sanders.
Speaker 1: David in terms of throwing the ball from the pockets.
Speaker 1: Which quarterback do you like the best? Do you think
Speaker 1: that is cam Ward?
Speaker 5: Well, if he's got a lot of in his skill level,
Speaker 5: his arm talent is off the charts. Now, it's so hard. Well,
Speaker 5: if you know this, it's so hard.
Speaker 1: Like c J.
Speaker 5: Stroud, I will say, we all made a mistake in
Speaker 5: listening to a lot of the naysayers. And look, he
Speaker 5: did have a great year last year. But the one
Speaker 5: thing that was clear about c J. Stroud by watching
Speaker 5: him in college, he could win from the pocket. The
Speaker 5: other guys I'm not sure about. You know, Shador Sanders
Speaker 5: got hit a ton. I did his ball game where
Speaker 5: he's in the game, they're getting blown out, he's still
Speaker 5: in the game late and he's getting hammered. How much
Speaker 5: of that him? How much of that is the offensive line?
Speaker 5: That's why I say I'll be curious to know if
Speaker 5: a lot of those hits and sacks are on him
Speaker 5: and he's not comfortable in the pocket, cam Ward's comfortable anywhere.
Speaker 5: I think Jackson Dart probably in terms of just his
Speaker 5: experience maybe is more ready. You know cam Ward, you
Speaker 5: think about where he came from before Miami. You know,
Speaker 5: sometimes those guys you get the one year flash and
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden they get in the NFL
Speaker 5: and you're like, huh, how did we misread that? That's
Speaker 5: why I think Jackson Dart is climbing, because I'm guessing
Speaker 5: more organizations see him as a sure fit early on
Speaker 5: than perhaps the other two guys, although I still think
Speaker 5: cam Ward will be the best of the three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dave, you're the best. Appreciate it you, David love
Speaker 4: the info. If the Cardinals don't take Tyler Booker, we
Speaker 4: need you to call Wolf and console him. That is
Speaker 4: Dave Fash, Voice of the Cardinals, will be right back
Speaker 4: with more. The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford.
Speaker 4: In Gilbert.
Speaker 6: Quick, the fifth pick in the twenty eleven NFL Draft,
Speaker 6: the Arizona Cardinals select Patrick Peterson.
Speaker 3: Defensive back lsu Savac stros Farsak deflected, picked off Peterson
Speaker 3: to the thirty five, runs right to the thirty at
Speaker 3: the twenty five twenty of the fire side, and knocked
Speaker 3: out a bounce at the fifteen yard line. The ball
Speaker 3: was tipped and intercepted by Pat P.
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson stabbed the pig out of the air, did
Speaker 1: a nice job right there, grabbing it with one hand.
Speaker 4: The former fifth pick overall, Patrick Peterson, who recently retired
Speaker 4: official like as an Arizona Cardinal, will be in Green Bay,
Speaker 4: woll He'll be there to announce the Cardinals selections on
Speaker 4: day two, their second and third round picks. Patrick Peterson
Speaker 4: will handle it. He says he wants to go into broadcasting.
Speaker 4: Boom put him to work on NFL Network and Pat
Speaker 4: P is going to have the Cardinals draft picks there
Speaker 4: on day two. Welcome back into the Big Red Rage,
Speaker 4: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Special Thanks Cardinal's voice, Pash,
Speaker 4: Paul Calvic and Ron Wolfley.
Speaker 1: And you know what Pat Pay I think is going
Speaker 1: to be fantastic at that as well. Anything this guy
Speaker 1: really puts his mind to or puts his hand to
Speaker 1: comes out gold for the most part.
Speaker 4: What do you think about corner before we get into
Speaker 4: other topics in the draft? Look, to me, it's more
Speaker 4: of a want than a need. But I mean, if
Speaker 4: you can get someone on caliber with a Pat P,
Speaker 4: it is remarkable what they can do for your defense.
Speaker 4: Look what Patrick Sartan the second did and just earning
Speaker 4: NFL Defensive Player of the Year, Right yeah, Sauce Gardner,
Speaker 4: Derek Stingley. I mean, you know these guys. I mean,
Speaker 4: if you if Will Johnson is that guy and the
Speaker 4: only reason he'd be available at sixteen is because he
Speaker 4: was injured for half of his final season in Michigan.
Speaker 4: If he's really a top ten or a top five pick,
Speaker 4: I wonder how intriguing that is.
Speaker 1: De Monti assob I just love Will Johnson as well.
Speaker 1: This is a big corner bully at six' two over
Speaker 1: two hundred pounds as, well a guy that can. Run
Speaker 1: he brings the physicality to the corner position right. There
Speaker 1: WHAT i also love is he plays very very well
Speaker 1: in his zone. Room we've talked a little bit about
Speaker 1: this in the, past but he. Does and this is
Speaker 1: something THAT i think would really fit well with a cover,
Speaker 1: three cover four scheme that we See Nick rollis AND
Speaker 1: jg actually employ from time to time with The Arizona
Speaker 1: cardinals as. Well they like to play zone and he's
Speaker 1: really good in playing a zone and jumping. Routes as
Speaker 1: Mel kiper once, said he's a pick six waiting to.
Speaker 4: Happen, well his comp has Been Christian gonzales and anyone
Speaker 4: who watched The cardinals win Against New england last. Year
Speaker 4: Christian gonzalez was a. Dude, yes he was their best
Speaker 4: player on the field to me, Anyway Michael wilson speaking of, corners,
Speaker 4: Right Michael wilson has gotten a two year indoctrination into THE.
Speaker 4: Nfl in, FACT i asked, him what's your biggest takeaway
Speaker 4: so far that you'd share with an incoming. Rookie you just,
Speaker 4: said attention to, Detail how the little things matter so
Speaker 4: much more in THE nfl than the college. Game you're
Speaker 4: not going to be physically, dominant it's those little. Things
Speaker 4: it's the point one percent that can make the difference
Speaker 4: in a. Play it is really in a student answer
Speaker 4: as you might expect. It, YEAH i mean he's you,
Speaker 4: know stand for, yep AND i guess. What he has
Speaker 4: two other teammates from his college class who are now
Speaker 4: in the room who Are cardinals. Receivers but here he.
Speaker 4: Is when he was asked about getting drafted and just
Speaker 4: how special an experience it.
Speaker 1: Is it's a special week for.
Speaker 10: Sure getting the call is definitely a life changing moment
Speaker 10: and one, of if not the greatest feeling of my
Speaker 10: life in that. Moment And i'll forever be indebted to
Speaker 10: The cardinals organization and money for changing my life that.
Speaker 4: Day, well give us a quick, recollection, RIGHT i, mean
Speaker 4: that's one thing you can never take away from a, player.
Speaker 1: That moment you're, Drafted. Polly it's an incredible, feeling it truly.
Speaker 1: IS i remember WHEN i received the phone call From Larry.
Speaker 1: WILSON i didn't believe it was Actually. LARRY i, said
Speaker 1: knock it. OFF i thought it was one of my
Speaker 1: friends actually playing a joke on. Me, no, No, ron
Speaker 1: we just drafted you in the fourth. Round you, know
Speaker 1: whatever it. Is I'LL i was so. EMBARRASSED i remember
Speaker 1: as well my Brother, craig my older Brother, craig on draft,
Speaker 1: day of, course getting drafted in the fifth. Round his
Speaker 1: agent had told him he could go as high as
Speaker 1: a third, round so we all were just so nervous
Speaker 1: that he didn't go in the, third and he didn't
Speaker 1: go in the, Fourth and here it was the fifth
Speaker 1: round and he went walking down into the gravel pit
Speaker 1: behind our backyard and suddenly the phone, rang and there
Speaker 1: is my Sister Joy may picking up the, phone and
Speaker 1: all of a, sudden she's talking and answering some questions
Speaker 1: in very terse kind of, way and she starts giving
Speaker 1: us the thumbs, down the thumbs, down and all of
Speaker 1: us were just so. Disappointed it was The Pittsburgh. Steelers
Speaker 1: it Was Chuck nole after, that he just won his
Speaker 1: Fourth Super, bowl ring saying we've just drafted your, Brother,
Speaker 1: craig and she's giving us the thumbs. Down those are
Speaker 1: some draft day recollections right. There she didn't know who he,
Speaker 1: Was she didn't know who The steelers, were and the
Speaker 1: fact they had won Four Super. Bowls she just knew
Speaker 1: it wasn't The buffalo. Bill, OH i get.
Speaker 4: It she wanted him to go to the. Hometown, STRIGHT
Speaker 4: i get.
Speaker 1: It oh my.
Speaker 4: Goodness, well look it's gonna be a very special. Evening
Speaker 4: what exactly is in, store we don't. Know we do, know,
Speaker 4: though to come full circle on the, show that we're
Speaker 4: already because already we've had the over, analysis a, yeah
Speaker 4: and the over evaluation of some of these, quarterbacks Right,
Speaker 4: WOLF i, mean over the, years think of some of
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks that have been, overdrafted Right Trey lance And
Speaker 4: Mitchell trubisky And Anthony richardson And Zach.
Speaker 1: Wilson and you know, what, Though, polly it's not just
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Position it really is. Not it's it's all
Speaker 1: of the. Positions these. Guys you sit here and you
Speaker 1: stare at the sun long, Enough, paul you are going
Speaker 1: to start to see. Speckles you're gonna start seeing dots around.
Speaker 1: You AND i think there's a lot of truth in
Speaker 1: that in regard to a scout or a general manager
Speaker 1: that continues to look at too much film and over
Speaker 1: analyze it to some, point you're going to start poking
Speaker 1: holes in something you probably should.
Speaker 4: Not and you know, what that's a great point because
Speaker 4: look at some of the home runs you can get
Speaker 4: on day, two in day three of this, Draft look
Speaker 4: what The rams have done. RECENTLY i had a chance
Speaker 4: To i'm seeing event With David, johnson former round three
Speaker 4: running back who was preceded two years earlier By round
Speaker 4: three Safety Tyron. Matthew think of some of the all
Speaker 4: time draft, Picks Buddha baker in round. Two, yeah think
Speaker 4: of some of the ballers that have come out Of day,
Speaker 4: two in day, three and that's it's one thing to
Speaker 4: have your first round, Pick, okay and there's so much
Speaker 4: awareness and knowledge of those. Players where A gm really
Speaker 4: builds a championship. TEAM i think it was These eagles
Speaker 4: First Super, bowl Recent Super bowl in twenty. Seventeen the
Speaker 4: stat was there were eighteen starters in That Super bowl
Speaker 4: that have been drafted On day two Or day. Three,
Speaker 4: yes playing in That Super. Bowl so that's where teams
Speaker 4: are really constructed from the back, end in the back
Speaker 4: part of the.
Speaker 1: Draft. Yeah it's also kind of cool, though once again
Speaker 1: to see many Aussen ford hitting on picks, one hitting
Speaker 1: on picks two and. Three you, KNOW i know That Darius,
Speaker 1: robinson you can look at it last year and you can, Say,
Speaker 1: okay that was kind of a throwaway season for him
Speaker 1: right there with all the injury. Issues yet at the same,
Speaker 1: time that story is yet to be written and we're
Speaker 1: gonna SEE i think this next, year this coming year
Speaker 1: is going to be a big step For Darius. Robinson but,
Speaker 1: Man moni's done a good job in terms of making
Speaker 1: those picks.
Speaker 4: Count all, Right so speaking of a pick that, counts
Speaker 4: you're going With Tyler booker at, sixteen, Correct that's. Right
Speaker 4: i'm Going James Pierce junior out Of. Tennessee i'm going
Speaker 4: edge at sixteen and then they'll find a guard at forty. Seven,
Speaker 4: Okay Special banks is always not Only Dave Pasch voice
Speaker 4: of The, Cardinals executive Producer Jim, Amhundro associate Producer Cody,
Speaker 4: Fincher technical Director Evan, Reiser Ron. Wolfley I'm Paul. calBC
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