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Speaker 4: I wish I'd have known that was coming.

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Speaker 4: Did you know that was coming?

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Speaker 1: I had no idea. I looked up and all of

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Speaker 1: I believe that's buzzing the tower.

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Speaker 4: Oh so, legend and lore has it the day Pash

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Speaker 4: Were they that low or was the crowd mic that good?

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Speaker 4: Because it sounded like I mean it most definitely sounded

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Speaker 4: That was green Bay, the site of this year's NFL draft.

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Speaker 4: to the Big Red Rage. And when you hear a

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Speaker 5: First of all, that was like top gun, Maverick level,

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Speaker 1: So, David, when you think of from a position standpoint,

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Speaker 5: I my opinion, Wolf is that there are probably four

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Speaker 5: I think we can pretty much cross off those positions

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Speaker 4: And that's interesting because the Cardinals have a half dozen

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Speaker 4: just feels like to me, it's more about quality than

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Speaker 5: Up, Paulie I do. I think this is the year

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Speaker 5: We have no clue. They might have somebody that they

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Speaker 4: Live with that risk you mentioned many Austin Ford. I

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Speaker 9: Position, you can never go wrong adding a good player

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Speaker 4: He also went on to say, yeah, they have a

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Speaker 5: Again, PAULI, I don't think you can ever have enough

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Speaker 1: On defense, you know your guard, tackle, d line, edge.

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Speaker 1: If it's if it's a first round pick offensively on

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Speaker 1: David that you would love to see the Cardinals get

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Speaker 1: at sixteen, who would that be?

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Speaker 5: the injuries and then obviously with what happened with his mother,

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Speaker 5: he dealt with a lot. I still am really bullish

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Speaker 5: on him, and you did add Dalvin Tomlinson, you added

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Speaker 5: two free agents last year. I think I probably lean

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Speaker 5: towards an edge guy as opposed to as you say

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Speaker 5: wolf a butt gutt. Yeah, Walter Nolan really is that

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Speaker 5: because he's a little under three hundred. But I would

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Speaker 5: probably go edge before I go interior defensive line.

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Speaker 1: Boy, when I hear you say edge, I think a

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Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart. I really do this guy. I love this

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Speaker 1: guy and watching this guy on tape as well. I

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Speaker 1: understand he only had four and a half sacks. I

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Speaker 1: get that, but when you watch him play, his pressures

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Speaker 1: and his ability to generate that pressure, his bull rush

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Speaker 1: is as good as I have seen and a long time.

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Speaker 1: You take a guy who is two hundred and seventy pounds,

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Speaker 1: almost two hundred and seventy pounds, and he's running up

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Speaker 1: a four or five nine. You gotta be kidding me, man,

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Speaker 1: That is burst right there, and he's got the best

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Speaker 1: bull rush of anybody on the edge. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see the Cardinals get Shamar Stewart.

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Speaker 4: You know the other name that's noticed out there is

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Speaker 4: Michel Williams Georgia. Right, they have two edge rushers out

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Speaker 4: of Georgia. Mckel Williams sixty five two sixty injured his

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Speaker 4: ankle in the very first game of the year, played

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Speaker 4: on a bum ankle the rest of the season was

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Speaker 4: still second team All SEC was a freshman All American

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Speaker 4: three years ago. They just talk about how physically is

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Speaker 4: the burst And I'm wondering, like, if that guy had

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Speaker 4: been healthy the entire year, would he be a guarantee

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Speaker 4: top ten pick? Is their value at sixteen Blue Jews.

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Speaker 4: But it's interesting, Dave. You know Drew stand was on

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Speaker 4: a Red Sea report recently saying, you know, what, where

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Speaker 4: else do you get edge guys? Nobody's given away an

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Speaker 4: edge guy. We had all these reports, Oh maybe you

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Speaker 4: get Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 10: Me.

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Speaker 4: No, nobody's given up an edge guy. You can only

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Speaker 4: get him in the draft. And after the Rams last year,

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Speaker 4: right got chaired first nineteenth overall. I just think of

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Speaker 4: that edge guys there, and he's legit at sixteen. I

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Speaker 4: agree with you, Dave. I do believe that's where the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals are going, if they're gonna go defense.

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Speaker 5: I was a big Jared Verse fan for what he

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Speaker 5: did for that defense at Florida State. And it is interesting.

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Speaker 5: You've got a guyle like Shamar Stewart. I mentioned Wolf

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Speaker 5: that I saw him really talented, bigger guy, and then

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Speaker 5: you have a guy in James Pearce, who's a little lighter,

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Speaker 5: a little bit slippery, a little bit slippery in terms

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Speaker 5: of his ability to get into the backfield where he's

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Speaker 5: not going to just overpower you. But I know people

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Speaker 5: aren't as high on him as they were last year,

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Speaker 5: but I wouldn't sleep on him. I think he's really

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Speaker 5: talented and could be an excellent NFL player for a

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Speaker 5: long time.

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Speaker 4: voice of the Cardinals, Dave Pash. It is the Big

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Speaker 4: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are

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Speaker 4: santan Ford. When the Cardinals are looking at number sixteen

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Speaker 4: there give us a gut feel. I mean, how do

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Speaker 4: you think they're going to assess the two thousand and

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Speaker 4: eight NFL Draft and which direction do you think they're

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Speaker 4: going to go?

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Speaker 3: First two rounds? You're gonna be able to get a

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Speaker 3: good corner if you're Arizona If Rogers, Carimarti is there.

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Speaker 3: That's who the Cardinals take. You know, even if there's

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Speaker 3: a Kalais Campbell there in the second round, that's a

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Speaker 3: position you got to look at strongly.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that was two thousand and eight day Pash two

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Speaker 4: for two on the first two rounds of the Cardinals draft.

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Speaker 4: That was before the draft day. Pash looking into is

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Speaker 4: a crystal football, if you will, and nailing both picks.

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Speaker 1: Needs his own mock draft apparently, I know.

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Speaker 4: Do are we missing it? Is there a day? Pash?

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Speaker 1: One point?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 4: That's out there, mister Pash?

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Speaker 5: I mean, oh my well, let's just say I don't

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Speaker 5: recall exactly, but I may have had help on that.

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Speaker 5: I can't remember if I was given any inside information

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Speaker 5: or not.

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Speaker 4: But good, well, look, we're talking drafting myself too much credit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Voice of.

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Speaker 4: The Cardinals Dave past joins us here in the Big

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Speaker 4: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul calvic

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Speaker 4: Ron Wolfley and Dave you know who Wolfson favor of

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Speaker 4: young man by the name of Tyler Booker. Okay, So,

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Speaker 4: as someone who has called a number of Alabama games

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Speaker 4: over the years, what can you tell us about their

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Speaker 4: standout first team All SEC starting guard.

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Speaker 5: I do see why it fluctuates in terms of the

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Speaker 5: opinions about him. I get it, and ultimately, you know,

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Speaker 5: the only thing that's going to matter is, you know,

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Speaker 5: is he a good player or not, Whether he's going

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Speaker 5: in the middle of the first round or the middle

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Speaker 5: of the second round. It's just a financial thing that

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Speaker 5: ultimately it'll cost him. But I think he's good enough

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Speaker 5: based on what I saw. And again I'm not breaking

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Speaker 5: it down Wolf. I know you've talked about how some

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Speaker 5: of the other people you've had on your show that

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Speaker 5: played the position in the NFL are not as high

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Speaker 5: on him as you are. I tend to agree with

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Speaker 5: you that I think he's got a chance to be

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Speaker 5: a really good player and should be a first round pick.

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Speaker 5: But I also see why others have him lower and

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Speaker 5: will I get the concerns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, for me, once again, it's all about production,

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Speaker 1: and he played in a pretty good conference. I would

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Speaker 1: say the SEC with some really good competition. Some good

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Speaker 1: players had seven point one knockdowns per game, seven point

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Speaker 1: one per ninety two knockdowns on the season that led

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Speaker 1: the SEC right there. I mean, this is who this

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Speaker 1: guy is. It's what he's all about. I absolutely love him.

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Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, I could see him falling

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Speaker 1: down draft boards once again, just because of the five, three, eight. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, could I see him down at twenty

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Speaker 1: five twenty seven? Yes? I could. Is it a possibility,

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Speaker 1: that's if you could get him at twenty five? Many

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Speaker 1: Austin Ford might say, what do you say we go

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Speaker 1: go ahead and move back a little bit there and

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Speaker 1: collect some picks and then we'll go get him in

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Speaker 1: the back end. I don't know if that's a possibility.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea how much Mony likes him. I

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Speaker 1: just know I do. I'll make a prediction. I think

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Speaker 1: I feel pretty safe saying he's.

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Speaker 4: Not going to fall out of the first round.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: The Lions need a guard, the Chiefs need a guard.

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Speaker 4: He's not getting past those two teams. Heck, I don't

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Speaker 4: think he's getting past eighteen. The Seahawks only addition to

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Speaker 4: their jankie offensive line the entire offseason has been former

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Speaker 4: Cardinal Josh Jones, who's a backup at best. So Seattle.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I think Seattle's a threat to even jump

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals if they think the Cardinals are going on line.

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Speaker 4: You got to look out for Seattle. The other name

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Speaker 4: that's out there is Calvin Banks Junior, the All American

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Speaker 4: life like Kim too. So, Dave, you worked a number

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Speaker 4: of Texas games. What can you tell us about their

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Speaker 4: standout left tackle?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a game he did not play in

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Speaker 5: where you could really see how much they missed him.

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Speaker 5: This was the previous year. He is very, very talented.

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Speaker 5: He's huge.

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Speaker 1: You know, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't know about forty times. Does a forty times matter

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Speaker 5: on a tackle? I don't know. I'm not sure that

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Speaker 5: that really matters. Is he a left tackle? Is he

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Speaker 5: a right tackle? Is he a guard? I think that's

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Speaker 5: the other question. I know you want positional versatility, and

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Speaker 5: you've got Paris Johnson now is your left tackle, But

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Speaker 5: I'm just not sure where he plays, and I think

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Speaker 5: he could play a lot of positions. Josh Simmons really intriguing.

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Speaker 5: Do you have the connection already with Justin Fry which

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Speaker 5: is big, but he you know, is coming off injury.

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Speaker 5: You took that chance with Garrett a couple of years

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Speaker 5: ago at the QUS and it worked out great, and maybe,

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe with Josh Simmons.

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Speaker 1: You get lucky again.

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Speaker 5: But I'll be curious if they go that route with

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Speaker 5: offensive line, if they want somebody that they have that

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Speaker 5: they that they say, this is the position you're going

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Speaker 5: to play, or do they go for somebody who is

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Speaker 5: a guy that can play multiple positions. Because you took

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Speaker 5: Paris Johnson knowing initially he was not going to play

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Speaker 5: left tackle, and he held his own and played really

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Speaker 5: well on the other side, can Calvin Banks be that guy?

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Speaker 5: Is that person Josh Simmons or do you say Tyler

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Speaker 5: Booker is a guard. We're gonna draft him because we

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Speaker 5: think he's the best guard and that's the position we need.

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Speaker 4: And I do like the whole scenario or the line

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Speaker 4: of thinking that you know, your first round rookie Kelvin

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Speaker 4: Banks or Josh Simmons could compete to be a starting

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Speaker 4: guard maybe your area of biggest need. And then if

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Speaker 4: Jonah Williams is no longer a cardinal after this coming season,

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Speaker 4: you have the flexibility the possibility moving him out to tackle.

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Speaker 4: And so I like that with both those guys as

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Speaker 4: opposed to a Tyler Booker who's really gonna be a

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Speaker 4: guard his entire career. What about receiver guys. I still

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Speaker 4: the most surprising thing to me. And you know we're

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Speaker 4: from the inside looking out the outside looking in the

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Speaker 4: national media. How many mock drafts have receiver going to

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals at sixteen overall? Well, if you're nodding, isn't

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Speaker 4: that surprising?

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Speaker 1: It is to me surprise because once again, I think

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Speaker 1: the need is there for the offensive line. I've said

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Speaker 1: this before, guys, but I truly do believe this. I

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Speaker 1: think the Arizona Cardinals have all the skill they need

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Speaker 1: to go out and be an excellent offense. I think

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Speaker 1: they do. Now could you add one piece that might

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Speaker 1: make it better in terms of the skill positions, Yes,

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Speaker 1: they need a guy who can take the top off.

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Speaker 1: They get a wide receiver who can take the top off,

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Speaker 1: like a Matthew Golden who's running a four to nine

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Speaker 1: right now. And what I love about Matthew Golden he's

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Speaker 1: running a four to nine, and I think he's even faster.

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Speaker 1: He's even faster when he gets in a game. And

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Speaker 1: if you watch him with game tape, he's got game speed.

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Speaker 1: And what I also like, he's got hands that can

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Speaker 1: catch the deep ball because it does you know good,

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Speaker 1: it does you no good if you can't hurt an

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Speaker 1: opposing defense and the only way to hurt him is

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Speaker 1: to catch the ball once you run by them. You

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Speaker 1: need a guy who can do both of those things.

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Speaker 1: I think Matthew Golden is climbing up draft boards even

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Speaker 1: as we speak right now. He might be guys. I

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Speaker 1: think he might be the first wide receiver taking off

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Speaker 1: the board.

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Speaker 4: But a good fit day for the Cardinals at sixteen.

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Speaker 4: What says you?

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Speaker 5: Well, going back to the last segment, I would be

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Speaker 5: surprised if they took a receiver. I think if they did,

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Speaker 5: Matthew Golden fits because he's different than Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 5: I think Luther Burden is going to be the best

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Speaker 5: receiver in this draft.

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Speaker 1: That's just me.

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Speaker 5: Tedoa from Arizona, I think has a chance to be

655
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 5: a great player as well. But I think Luther Burden

656
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 5: is a special player, having had him at Missouri a

657
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 5: couple of times. Here's how I think you have to

658
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 5: look at it.

659
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: You have to.

660
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 5: If Kyler Murray is your quarterback going forward, you have

661
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 5: to say, how can we help him the most? Where

662
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 5: we are picked? Is that by getting an offensive lineman.

663
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 5: Is that by building a stronger defense with a corner

664
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 5: or a pass rusher or a defensive lineman. Or is

665
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 5: that giving him another weapon. I think he's got two

666
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 5: weapons that you go into twenty twenty five saying these

667
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 5: are two legit guys. I do think Marvin Harrison Junior

668
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 5: is going to get better. What the ceiling is, I

669
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 5: don't know. But you got him and Trey McBride, and

670
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 5: you have James Connor. So is Michael Wilson the next

671
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 5: guy there right now? He is? Do you think in

672
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 5: this draft you can find somebody that's better than him?

673
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 5: Maybe you can, but I just wouldn't use that pick

674
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 5: in the first round. Maybe there's somebody in the second

675
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 5: round or perhaps later that you really love that you

676
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 5: think can coming and be that third or fourth option.

677
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 4: Dave pash Our guest here the voice of the Cardinals

678
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 4: on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert,

679
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 4: can't let you go without asking you about the quarterbacks.

680
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: Because more quarterbacks drafted in the top half of the

681
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: first round. Guess what more premium position players are pushed

682
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 4: down to the Cardinals. A couple of real while card

683
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: Shador Sanders, Jackson Dart, I know you've worked both their

684
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: games over the years. What do you think you got

685
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 4: a gut feel as to where they're going and whether

686
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: they're going round one.

687
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paulie, I had all three guys this year, cam

688
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 5: Ward and Shador, and then Jackson Dart actually had ole

689
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 5: miss three times. So I was surprised that Jackson Dark

690
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 5: climbed all the way into the first round. Initially just

691
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 5: people I had talked to him, kind of watching him,

692
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: I thought more of a third round prospect when I

693
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 5: watched Shador Sanders in person, when I talked to their

694
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 5: coaching staff and listened to them praise him and had

695
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 5: a chance to be around Shador, I actually thought he's

696
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 5: going to be maybe the first quarterback taken. I think

697
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 5: cam Ward is the most talented player. I think it's

698
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 5: obvious he's going either one or two, and then I

699
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 5: will be curious. I don't think Shador drops before or

700
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 5: drops below ten. I would be really surprised. I think

701
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 5: Jackson Dart might be more ready to play in the NFL,

702
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 5: just because of his experience, but I still think Chador

703
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 5: has probably got more upside, but it just may take

704
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 5: some time, and so if he gets with the right organization,

705
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 5: it's willing to be patient. I think that patience will

706
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 5: pay off with Shader Sanders.

707
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: David in terms of throwing the ball from the pockets.

708
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: Which quarterback do you like the best? Do you think

709
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: that is cam Ward?

710
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 5: Well, if he's got a lot of in his skill level,

711
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 5: his arm talent is off the charts. Now, it's so hard. Well,

712
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 5: if you know this, it's so hard.

713
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: Like c J.

714
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 5: Stroud, I will say, we all made a mistake in

715
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 5: listening to a lot of the naysayers. And look, he

716
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 5: did have a great year last year. But the one

717
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 5: thing that was clear about c J. Stroud by watching

718
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 5: him in college, he could win from the pocket. The

719
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 5: other guys I'm not sure about. You know, Shador Sanders

720
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 5: got hit a ton. I did his ball game where

721
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 5: he's in the game, they're getting blown out, he's still

722
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 5: in the game late and he's getting hammered. How much

723
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 5: of that him? How much of that is the offensive line?

724
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 5: That's why I say I'll be curious to know if

725
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 5: a lot of those hits and sacks are on him

726
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 5: and he's not comfortable in the pocket, cam Ward's comfortable anywhere.

727
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 5: I think Jackson Dart probably in terms of just his

728
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 5: experience maybe is more ready. You know cam Ward, you

729
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 5: think about where he came from before Miami. You know,

730
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 5: sometimes those guys you get the one year flash and

731
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden they get in the NFL

732
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 5: and you're like, huh, how did we misread that? That's

733
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 5: why I think Jackson Dart is climbing, because I'm guessing

734
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 5: more organizations see him as a sure fit early on

735
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 5: than perhaps the other two guys, although I still think

736
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 5: cam Ward will be the best of the three.

737
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dave, you're the best. Appreciate it you, David love

738
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 4: the info. If the Cardinals don't take Tyler Booker, we

739
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 4: need you to call Wolf and console him. That is

740
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: Dave Fash, Voice of the Cardinals, will be right back

741
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: with more. The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford.

742
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 4: In Gilbert.

743
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 6: Quick, the fifth pick in the twenty eleven NFL Draft,

744
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 6: the Arizona Cardinals select Patrick Peterson.

745
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: Defensive back lsu Savac stros Farsak deflected, picked off Peterson

746
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: to the thirty five, runs right to the thirty at

747
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: the twenty five twenty of the fire side, and knocked

748
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: out a bounce at the fifteen yard line. The ball

749
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: was tipped and intercepted by Pat P.

750
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson stabbed the pig out of the air, did

751
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,959
Speaker 1: a nice job right there, grabbing it with one hand.

752
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 4: The former fifth pick overall, Patrick Peterson, who recently retired

753
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: official like as an Arizona Cardinal, will be in Green Bay,

754
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 4: woll He'll be there to announce the Cardinals selections on

755
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: day two, their second and third round picks. Patrick Peterson

756
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: will handle it. He says he wants to go into broadcasting.

757
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 4: Boom put him to work on NFL Network and Pat

758
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: P is going to have the Cardinals draft picks there

759
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: on day two. Welcome back into the Big Red Rage,

760
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 4: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Special Thanks Cardinal's voice, Pash,

761
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 4: Paul Calvic and Ron Wolfley.

762
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: And you know what Pat Pay I think is going

763
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: to be fantastic at that as well. Anything this guy

764
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: really puts his mind to or puts his hand to

765
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: comes out gold for the most part.

766
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 4: What do you think about corner before we get into

767
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: other topics in the draft? Look, to me, it's more

768
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: of a want than a need. But I mean, if

769
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: you can get someone on caliber with a Pat P,

770
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 4: it is remarkable what they can do for your defense.

771
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: Look what Patrick Sartan the second did and just earning

772
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 4: NFL Defensive Player of the Year, Right yeah, Sauce Gardner,

773
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 4: Derek Stingley. I mean, you know these guys. I mean,

774
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 4: if you if Will Johnson is that guy and the

775
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: only reason he'd be available at sixteen is because he

776
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 4: was injured for half of his final season in Michigan.

777
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 4: If he's really a top ten or a top five pick,

778
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 4: I wonder how intriguing that is.

779
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: De Monti assob I just love Will Johnson as well.

780
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: This is a big corner bully at six' two over

781
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: two hundred pounds as, well a guy that can. Run

782
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: he brings the physicality to the corner position right. There

783
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: WHAT i also love is he plays very very well

784
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: in his zone. Room we've talked a little bit about

785
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: this in the, past but he. Does and this is

786
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: something THAT i think would really fit well with a cover,

787
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: three cover four scheme that we See Nick rollis AND

788
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: jg actually employ from time to time with The Arizona

789
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: cardinals as. Well they like to play zone and he's

790
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: really good in playing a zone and jumping. Routes as

791
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: Mel kiper once, said he's a pick six waiting to.

792
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: Happen, well his comp has Been Christian gonzales and anyone

793
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 4: who watched The cardinals win Against New england last. Year

794
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: Christian gonzalez was a. Dude, yes he was their best

795
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: player on the field to me, Anyway Michael wilson speaking of, corners,

796
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: Right Michael wilson has gotten a two year indoctrination into THE.

797
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: Nfl in, FACT i asked, him what's your biggest takeaway

798
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 4: so far that you'd share with an incoming. Rookie you just,

799
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 4: said attention to, Detail how the little things matter so

800
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: much more in THE nfl than the college. Game you're

801
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 4: not going to be physically, dominant it's those little. Things

802
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 4: it's the point one percent that can make the difference

803
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 4: in a. Play it is really in a student answer

804
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 4: as you might expect. It, YEAH i mean he's you,

805
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 4: know stand for, yep AND i guess. What he has

806
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: two other teammates from his college class who are now

807
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: in the room who Are cardinals. Receivers but here he.

808
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: Is when he was asked about getting drafted and just

809
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 4: how special an experience it.

810
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: Is it's a special week for.

811
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 10: Sure getting the call is definitely a life changing moment

812
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 10: and one, of if not the greatest feeling of my

813
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 10: life in that. Moment And i'll forever be indebted to

814
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 10: The cardinals organization and money for changing my life that.

815
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: Day, well give us a quick, recollection, RIGHT i, mean

816
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 4: that's one thing you can never take away from a, player.

817
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: That moment you're, Drafted. Polly it's an incredible, feeling it truly.

818
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: IS i remember WHEN i received the phone call From Larry.

819
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: WILSON i didn't believe it was Actually. LARRY i, said

820
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: knock it. OFF i thought it was one of my

821
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: friends actually playing a joke on. Me, no, No, ron

822
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: we just drafted you in the fourth. Round you, know

823
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: whatever it. Is I'LL i was so. EMBARRASSED i remember

824
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: as well my Brother, craig my older Brother, craig on draft,

825
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: day of, course getting drafted in the fifth. Round his

826
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: agent had told him he could go as high as

827
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: a third, round so we all were just so nervous

828
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: that he didn't go in the, third and he didn't

829
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: go in the, Fourth and here it was the fifth

830
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: round and he went walking down into the gravel pit

831
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: behind our backyard and suddenly the phone, rang and there

832
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: is my Sister Joy may picking up the, phone and

833
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: all of a, sudden she's talking and answering some questions

834
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: in very terse kind of, way and she starts giving

835
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: us the thumbs, down the thumbs, down and all of

836
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: us were just so. Disappointed it was The Pittsburgh. Steelers

837
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: it Was Chuck nole after, that he just won his

838
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: Fourth Super, bowl ring saying we've just drafted your, Brother,

839
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: craig and she's giving us the thumbs. Down those are

840
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: some draft day recollections right. There she didn't know who he,

841
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: Was she didn't know who The steelers, were and the

842
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: fact they had won Four Super. Bowls she just knew

843
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't The buffalo. Bill, OH i get.

844
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: It she wanted him to go to the. Hometown, STRIGHT

845
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 4: i get.

846
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: It oh my.

847
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 4: Goodness, well look it's gonna be a very special. Evening

848
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 4: what exactly is in, store we don't. Know we do, know,

849
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: though to come full circle on the, show that we're

850
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 4: already because already we've had the over, analysis a, yeah

851
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 4: and the over evaluation of some of these, quarterbacks Right,

852
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 4: WOLF i, mean over the, years think of some of

853
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks that have been, overdrafted Right Trey lance And

854
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: Mitchell trubisky And Anthony richardson And Zach.

855
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: Wilson and you know, what, Though, polly it's not just

856
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Position it really is. Not it's it's all

857
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: of the. Positions these. Guys you sit here and you

858
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: stare at the sun long, Enough, paul you are going

859
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: to start to see. Speckles you're gonna start seeing dots around.

860
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: You AND i think there's a lot of truth in

861
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: that in regard to a scout or a general manager

862
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: that continues to look at too much film and over

863
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: analyze it to some, point you're going to start poking

864
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: holes in something you probably should.

865
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: Not and you know, what that's a great point because

866
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 4: look at some of the home runs you can get

867
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 4: on day, two in day three of this, Draft look

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Speaker 4: To i'm seeing event With David, johnson former round three

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Speaker 4: running back who was preceded two years earlier By round

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Speaker 4: three Safety Tyron. Matthew think of some of the all

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Speaker 4: time draft, Picks Buddha baker in round. Two, yeah think

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Speaker 4: of some of the ballers that have come out Of day,

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Speaker 4: awareness and knowledge of those. Players where A gm really

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Speaker 4: builds a championship. TEAM i think it was These eagles

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Speaker 4: First Super, bowl Recent Super bowl in twenty. Seventeen the

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Speaker 4: stat was there were eighteen starters in That Super bowl

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Speaker 4: that have been drafted On day two Or day. Three,

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Speaker 4: yes playing in That Super. Bowl so that's where teams

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Speaker 1: Draft. Yeah it's also kind of cool, though once again

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Speaker 1: to see many Aussen ford hitting on picks, one hitting

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Speaker 1: on picks two and. Three you, KNOW i know That Darius,

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Speaker 1: okay that was kind of a throwaway season for him

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Speaker 1: gonna SEE i think this next, year this coming year

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Speaker 1: is going to be a big step For Darius. Robinson but,

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Speaker 1: Man moni's done a good job in terms of making

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Speaker 1: those picks.

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Speaker 4: you're going With Tyler booker at, sixteen, Correct that's. Right

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Speaker 4: i'm Going James Pierce junior out Of. Tennessee i'm going

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Speaker 4: edge at sixteen and then they'll find a guard at forty. Seven,

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