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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stradio Lab, an intellectual podcast about straight culture

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Speaker 1: and also a stupid podcast about nothing. Don't say that,

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Speaker 1: it's just true. I don't want to lie to our listeners.

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Speaker 1: I'm George Severi and I'm Sam Taggart, and this is

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Speaker 1: Stradio Lab. Podcast starts now. Introductory episode of Stradio Lab

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Speaker 1: starts now. Wow. Hello, Hello, and welcome to season three

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Speaker 1: of the critically acknowledged podcast Stradio Lab. Yes, they're always

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Speaker 1: acknowledging us if you have clicked play on this. We've

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Speaker 1: been told that we need to sort of introduce who

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Speaker 1: we are and sort of explain what our deal is.

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Speaker 1: You know, Like I said, this is season three, so

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Speaker 1: part I'm already coming into this with a certain amount

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Speaker 1: of I'll say rage, I'll say anger. I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: should know. At this point, we've had two full seasons.

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Speaker 1: Multiple of our guests have gone on to be stars

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Speaker 1: of the stage, screen, you know, even the arts and sciences. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: some of them have won Presidential Medals of Freedom, Peabodies,

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Speaker 1: Nobel Prizes, not the Peace Prize. I know that's an

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Speaker 1: obvious joke, but they've actually won the one for economics. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and in fact, they are not peaceful people. Um, they

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Speaker 1: haven't tried there. There, they've been tried for war crimes,

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Speaker 1: but in terms of their academic work and economics, you

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Speaker 1: can't argue that it's a slay. You have to separate

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Speaker 1: the work from the the art. I would say in

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Speaker 1: general with our guests, you really have to separate the

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Speaker 1: art from the artist, because yes, many of them are

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Speaker 1: war criminals, but they're also really funny comedians and artists. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say they're really funny comedians often with no

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Speaker 1: other redeemable qualities. Yeah. So if you're listening, Okay, so

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Speaker 1: this is straight a lot pretty much some backstory on

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Speaker 1: our deal. We started this podcast two years ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, just to just to kind of reiterate

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Speaker 1: what might physically attractive and intellectually supreme. Co host Sam

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Speaker 1: Taggard said, we're kind of recording this to first of all,

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Speaker 1: welcome old fans back in and say hey Chica, and

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Speaker 1: second of all, potentially introduced new listeners who perhaps heard

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Speaker 1: and add for the podcast somewhere and staid, I don't

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Speaker 1: know who the hell these f slurs are, but I

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Speaker 1: think they sound like they could have something to say.

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Speaker 1: So you know it's it's chill, it's unofficial. We we

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Speaker 1: just wanted to kind of check in. We wanted to

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Speaker 1: to give you a little tap as you're as you're

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Speaker 1: sleeping in bed and we're we made coffin, were about

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Speaker 1: to leave for work and say, hey, you'll wait, um,

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Speaker 1: this is our deal. And yeah, to sort of piggyback

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Speaker 1: off of what my beautiful inside and Out co host

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Speaker 1: George was saying, is that, yeah, this isn't an official episode.

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Speaker 1: So if you absolutely hate it, then like fully respect

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Speaker 1: like if you're like this is really boring, were not

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Speaker 1: we don't normally like talk about like so this is

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Speaker 1: pretty much our deal, Like that's not really what our

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Speaker 1: podcast is about. But that's that is what this is about. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: that's just like my definition with this is about. So

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Speaker 1: if you don't like that, then you know your issue

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Speaker 1: is kind of more systemic rather than in terms rather

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Speaker 1: than artistic. Yeah. So yeah, our podcast is called Stradio

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Speaker 1: Lab and in it, you know, each episode we sort

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Speaker 1: of explore one element of straight culture that are all

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Speaker 1: star war criminal guests bring in that's right, and and

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Speaker 1: and elements of straight culture you know, can be anything.

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Speaker 1: They can be straightforward. We've had episodes on football, we

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Speaker 1: have episodes on you know what, what else would you

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Speaker 1: say is so straightforward? Cars? Cars? Of course, when you

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Speaker 1: guy named Doug. Am I right? So true? Or if

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Speaker 1: you you know, you think about strities, think about fraternity's

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Speaker 1: gender reveal parties. These are so obviously straight So of

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Speaker 1: course that's one end of the spectrum. Another end of

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Speaker 1: the spectrum is, you know, more avant garde topics. We've

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Speaker 1: had a topic on an episode on math with one

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Speaker 1: of our dear friends, Josh Sharp. We've had an episode

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Speaker 1: on reading with one of our dear friends, Meg's talter.

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Speaker 1: We had an episode on trust issues with none other

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Speaker 1: than Nori Read. Nori read two time guests, Actually I

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Speaker 1: season two finale, and that was my design. Yeah, two

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Speaker 1: time guests, four time war criminal. You do not want

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Speaker 1: to hear what she has done in Latin America. No,

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Speaker 1: it's bad, But Nori I would say, you know, if

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Speaker 1: consider we have adopted all of our guests, so I

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Speaker 1: first episode on trust issues, to me, it's like perfect

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Speaker 1: on Jackass the series a kind of pinnacle of straight culture.

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Speaker 1: Another great episode. I don't know what else. What do

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Speaker 1: about whiteness as a straight topic. Yeah. I would say

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Speaker 1: that was when I thought. I thought to myself, you know,

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Speaker 1: before that I was actually a staunch wing Republican. And

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Speaker 1: after that episode, I said, you know, something's not right

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Speaker 1: Republican exactly. And now I'm a centrist, right wing Republican.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of a never Trumper, if you will. A

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Project. First Lincoln Project, I was one of the

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Speaker 1: co founders. Yeah, which is huge. So yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: our podcasts you may be able to tell is part lies,

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Speaker 1: part truth, um the balancing act of the truth and

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Speaker 1: the lies I mean, how do you put up with it? George?

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Speaker 1: It is I would say the sign of all great

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Speaker 1: art is that you can never tell if someone's being serious,

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Speaker 1: view at all. They're kind of just saying things that

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Speaker 1: really hoping just kind of flying, not even flying, I

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Speaker 1: their person. Yeah, every single episode is a free fall.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, sometimes we die, sometimes we crash, and we burn.

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Speaker 1: It's true, you know. I'm I'm trying to think, like,

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Speaker 1: what other artists of our many peers would you compare?

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, Actually, I have a really good answer

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Speaker 1: you compare our work too in terms of its ethos

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Speaker 1: and its spirit? And immediately I know exactly what it is.

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Speaker 1: it is the new DEMI Lovato single Substance, where the

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Demi is asking that, but with

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Speaker 1: And yet when it's time for Demi to speak, Denny says,

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Speaker 1: so hard because like Demi, I mean, we are always like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what a gay podcast? Oh cool? And meanwhile then we

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Speaker 1: will host one and it's like, oh, let me guess

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Speaker 1: they have guests every week, and it's like, oh, that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what we're gonna do. And it's like, oh, how

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Speaker 1: hack would it be if they have segments? And it's like,

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Speaker 1: me guess. The guests are a mix of up and

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Speaker 1: coming Brooklyn comedians, up and coming l A comedians, some

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Speaker 1: oh wait, that's exactly what we're gonna do because it's

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Speaker 1: being self aware and this is tough. Um, this is

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Speaker 1: be like not to be a huge fucking bitch, but

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Speaker 1: wisest things he's ever said is that his definition of

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Speaker 1: camp is pretending to do something while you actually do it,

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Speaker 1: And in some ways that means that everything we've ever

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Speaker 1: done is camp. Oh God. Yeah, are huge influences of

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Speaker 1: ours are Diabette, Demilovado and Guy Brand Big three would

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Speaker 1: are any industry folks listening to this pod truly call

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Speaker 1: the damn Tony's and just request the awards come now? Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: never mind, Well, you know, it's so it's so true

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Speaker 1: what they say. There's there's such a there's so much

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Speaker 1: is it the nineties again? Finally something that is an

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Speaker 1: something I found serendipitously, something that yeah, occasionally has ads

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Speaker 1: I mean Demi Lovato is listening to this, and it's like, finally,

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Speaker 1: that's the substance I was talking about. I can stop

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Speaker 1: looking because I found it. God, who's your dream guests?

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, well and guy of course, but then

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Speaker 1: second tier, second tier dream guest, dream guest, dream guest. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: if we had a week, if we had a week

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Speaker 1: them gets their own week, Yes, that would be oh

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Speaker 1: for Pride Month, That's right. And you know I'll say

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Speaker 1: this if you're interested in hearing more about sexon City.

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Speaker 1: Our previous guest, Lindsay Webber, who weekly is Lindsay Webber,

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Speaker 1: Oh say that? So is is Misha a Stranger Things? Had?

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Speaker 1: He kind of is. He's at least a completionist, and

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Speaker 1: like he refuses to like let it like I would

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Speaker 1: be like, I was kind of like, it's not good,

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Speaker 1: I don't need to watch it, but he was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I want, I need to finish it, and I'm like okay,

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Speaker 1: But it ends up bumming me out, mostly because it's

427
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Speaker 1: like this used to be good. There used to be

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Speaker 1: something to do this, and now it's totally they've lost it,

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Speaker 1: But you know, I love to see those little kids

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Speaker 1: grow up. This is something I would think about a lot.

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Speaker 1: This is my official policy proposal when that show is over.

432
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Speaker 1: Those kids should return right back to school. They should

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Speaker 1: not be allowed to be in the industry. They should

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Speaker 1: actually go back and finish school. They need to go

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Speaker 1: to school, and they need to go to college, a

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Speaker 1: good state school. Well, you know, Millie Bobby Brown enrolled

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Speaker 1: in Perdue. Really about this, Yeah, she enrolled in online

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Speaker 1: classes at Perdue in their human services department, which is

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Speaker 1: like kind of I mean, no offense to people that

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Speaker 1: work in human services. You're obviously doing God's work. These

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Speaker 1: are people that do like work at like drug treatment

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Speaker 1: centers and uh, you know, do stuff around like family um,

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Speaker 1: social services and things like that. But the idea that

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Speaker 1: that is what Millie Bobby Brown would choose to study

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Speaker 1: is so fascinating to me. That is fascinating. I mean,

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Speaker 1: imagine you're going to the d MV. Suddenly there's Millie

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Speaker 1: Bobby Brown snatched in a ponytail wig and she says, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll take number fifty two next. I mean, that's kind

449
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Speaker 1: of a slay. I think that actually makes so much sense.

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Speaker 1: Every actor should go into public service afterwards, and like unglamorous,

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Speaker 1: non political public service. It should actually be kind of

452
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Speaker 1: like a mandatory military service, but for actresses, they should

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Speaker 1: work at the d m V for one week. The

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Speaker 1: the way that would fix so many problems. I mean,

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Speaker 1: even just getting people to believe in America again. Imagine

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Speaker 1: if you went to the DMV and Nicole Kidman was there.

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Speaker 1: I have to say, I'm actually now realizing, you know,

458
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Speaker 1: there are enough celebrities where if you really divided them up,

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Speaker 1: they could basically run all our social services, and that

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Speaker 1: would really solve a lot of problems because you would

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Speaker 1: have people with social power working for the government. I

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Speaker 1: was just listening to an episode of Fresh Air where

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Speaker 1: they were saying that the I R S is no

464
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Speaker 1: longer auditing like the super wealthy, so they end up

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Speaker 1: auditing a lot of like middle class and poor people

466
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Speaker 1: because they are afraid because the super wealthy have such

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Speaker 1: crazy means of evading taxes that it's not even worth it.

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Speaker 1: But imagine if I R S was literally manned by

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Speaker 1: George Clooney, he knows what to do. I mean, that

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Speaker 1: would be huge, that would be so helpful. He'd be like,

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Speaker 1: because he knows he's friends with him, he'd be like, actually,

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Speaker 1: could you look into my friends who was like a billionaire. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like the old employees of the I

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Speaker 1: R s are like, God, I you know this person,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're I don't know what they've

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Speaker 1: been doing all the Countralock George Clooney is like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm on close friends, let me check. Yeah, He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he just posted I'm doing tax evasion. Just supposed I'm

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Speaker 1: not doing tax he just posted he just posted avoiding

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Speaker 1: taxes this year again. L O L L m A. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: what's what's the move tonight? And what's the move tonight?

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Speaker 1: Who's going to the Chateau Marmont? What are the good

483
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Speaker 1: Italian villas right now? I mean, do you think we

484
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Speaker 1: explained One more thing you need to know about our

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Speaker 1: podcast is that we talked about making the podcast while

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Speaker 1: we make the podcast, And thank you for saying that,

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Speaker 1: and that is essential. And so for this, as we

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Speaker 1: wrap this up, I want to say I'm happy with

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Speaker 1: um what this is. I think both of us, you know,

490
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Speaker 1: it could have been structured better. I think both of

491
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Speaker 1: us were sort of like let's just dive in and

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Speaker 1: just start to try to explain ourselves. And so maybe

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Speaker 1: if you were like that was weird and clunky up top,

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, we were figuring it out. Yeah, and

495
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Speaker 1: also like, who are like, Also, calm down, you know

496
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Speaker 1: what I mean. This is a free episode. There's no

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Speaker 1: reason to like. We didn't ask for feedback. And if

498
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Speaker 1: you don't like it, maybe keep that to yourself. Yeah,

499
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Speaker 1: there's many other podcasts out. You can go listen to

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Speaker 1: The Daily, you can go listen to podcast Um. You

501
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Speaker 1: can potentially go listen to our favorite podcasts, a Slate

502
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Speaker 1: culture gap fest. Yeah, well we have to have them on.

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Speaker 1: We need to have them on. That's a good note.

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Speaker 1: We actually could now. And let me say another thing

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Speaker 1: about this is, as Sam said, we talked about the podcast.

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Speaker 1: While we make the podcast, we think it makes it

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Speaker 1: more authentic and honest, and those are the two things

508
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Speaker 1: we are always in search of, is authenticity and honesty.

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Speaker 1: That in the perfect bottle of pinot Whoam. But here's

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Speaker 1: what I'll say. You know, we are yes out of Crossroads.

511
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Speaker 1: We had two and a half years of self producing

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Speaker 1: the podcast, growing it organically, almost almost intentionally trying not

513
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Speaker 1: to make money, losing money at every time, actively losing,

514
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Speaker 1: actively losing money. We almost had I would say a

515
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Speaker 1: pride was a point of pride that we felt so

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Speaker 1: d I Y so punk rock. And we are now

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Speaker 1: as of this season, we're part of a network. There

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Speaker 1: will be ads on the podcast. We have an incredible producer, Olivia,

519
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Speaker 1: who is who is helping us out. So it is

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Speaker 1: we're in a transitional faith. In some areas we seem

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Speaker 1: d I Y and punk rock, and in other areas

522
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Speaker 1: we've seen like business bitches making seven figures a year.

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Speaker 1: That's because we're transitioning from the former to the ladder

524
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Speaker 1: and um. One more thing to know is we have

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Speaker 1: no morals, no morals. Oh, we'll do anything. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think it's we're happy to have you on board the journey.

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Speaker 1: It's been fun. It's been it's been from independent to

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Speaker 1: my heart media and big money players network. And I

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Speaker 1: do want to give actually a special thanks if I

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Speaker 1: maybe earnest for one and one thing we do if you,

531
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Speaker 1: if you want, if you go back to our to

532
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Speaker 1: our old episodes, you'll see that twice a year we

533
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Speaker 1: do something called an Earnestness Bonanza where we dropped the

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Speaker 1: act and answer listener questions. And I want to channel

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Speaker 1: that for just just one second here and say from

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Speaker 1: the bottom of my heart, and I speak for both

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Speaker 1: of us when I say, we are so grateful to

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Speaker 1: everyone that has been listening. Whether it's from the first episode,

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Speaker 1: or whether from the second season, or whether from a

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Speaker 1: few months ago or a few weeks ago, we are

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Speaker 1: so grateful. We still can't believe anyone listens. When we

542
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: see people at live shows or or around around Brooklyn,

543
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: New York, it brings a smile to our face and

544
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: and and we both genuinely don't even don't even know

545
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Speaker 1: how to how to react that how great, you know,

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Speaker 1: That's how grateful gurs is what I'm trying to say it.

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Speaker 1: And then the other thing is that I think one

548
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Speaker 1: of the ways that we are trying to be a

549
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Speaker 1: little more professional is we used to always say when

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Speaker 1: we had a guest, we never plug anything that they're

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Speaker 1: in and we don't even say what they are. I mean,

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00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: we have had guests that were actively in the actively

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00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: promoting projects when they were on our podcast, and we

554
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: did not mention them a single time. And I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna try to be a little better about that,

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Speaker 1: and I think we'll start by promoting our own work

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and I'll say that if you are

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Speaker 1: interested in more Stradio Lab, we have a Patreon which

559
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: you can find a patreon dot com slash Stradio Lab,

560
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Speaker 1: and we have an upcoming live show at City Winery

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Speaker 1: in New York City. This is the first time we've

562
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Speaker 1: had live shows before, but they've always done the Bellhouse.

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Speaker 1: Is the first time. We're going to be at City

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Speaker 1: Winery and that is on September twenty. It's a Saturday,

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Speaker 1: and the blink to tickets is in our is then

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Speaker 1: our socials. Yeah. Just to the non plugging thing, we

567
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Speaker 1: really thought it was funny to actively not plug anything

568
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Speaker 1: and then um later it started to feel I started

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Speaker 1: to feel guilty. Well because in the beginning, especially when

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Speaker 1: we didn't have listeners, it was like, well, plugging, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: do it. It's not you know. I was like, why

572
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Speaker 1: would we plug? We don't think we're like important, why

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Speaker 1: would we play? It feels so stupid to be doing

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Speaker 1: the first episode of a podcast and be like, please

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Speaker 1: follow our guest Charlie Barday. Just to mention someone that

576
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Speaker 1: was one of our first guests, like, please follow our

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Speaker 1: guest Charlie Barday on Twitter and Instagram. It's like, well,

578
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: seven people are listening to this. Yeah, but now we'll say, hey,

579
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Speaker 1: please follow Charlie Barday on Twitter, and please follow Charlie

580
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Speaker 1: Barday at Chunk bar Day on Twitter, and you won't

581
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: be disappointed. You won't be disappointed. Do you think we

582
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: nailed it? I think so, And I'll say this, rate

583
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Speaker 1: and review us on Apple Podcasts. Is that too far? Maybe?

584
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: Maybe that's that's one step too far. Yeah, for now,

585
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: I think we're okay, okay, okay, don't now if you're moved.

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Speaker 1: If you're so, if you're moved, but also like, it's

587
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Speaker 1: not a big deal. If you don't, We're not like

588
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: tell it. Don't be like they told us to do this.

589
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Speaker 1: Just be like no, no, no, be like if we

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Speaker 1: if I'm feeling it, feel it. But no, and but please,

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Speaker 1: one thing is we don't ever want negative criticism. No,

592
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: please don't reach out with negative criticism. If you find

593
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: our voices annoying. If you think I sound quote condescending

594
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: and shrill, uh, that's something you should keep yourself. Yeah,

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00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't really help because Unfortunately, our voices are staying

596
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: the same and um, if anything, they're getting more annoying

597
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: by the second. That's true, honey, you don't have to

598
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: tell me. I listen to this podcast and I say, oh,

599
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: that's what I sound like. God bless Okay, that's too much.

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Speaker 1: We can we don't do. That's how deprecating we can.

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Speaker 1: Calm down. All right, Well, we are the best podcasters

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Speaker 1: in the world, and welcome to the Island of Misfit

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Speaker 1: Toys and the words of Emma Watson and the perks

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Speaker 1: of being a wallflower. This is Radio. Bye bye,