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Speaker 1: Browns on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. You are your hosts

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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura, Fi.

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Speaker 2: Sir, live on a football Friday edition of the program.

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Speaker 3: Merely.

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Speaker 2: Bo Gibbe is here.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 2: How are you, buddy?

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Speaker 3: How you living Friday?

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Speaker 2: That's what they say, It actually means something.

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Speaker 3: I mean you. We have been busy for I don't

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Speaker 3: know how many Fridays now are weekends I should say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and maybe you have obligations. I get a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do championship weekend, league tournament, championship weekend in

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Speaker 2: our basketball for the boys. And we've got a birthday

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Speaker 2: celebration tonight. Yeah, pretty obligated up all weekend long.

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Speaker 3: We've got a couple things. We got a little meet

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Speaker 3: up tonight, got a meet up on Sunday. Might have

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Speaker 3: the grand baby tomorrow night. Hey go, So I do

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Speaker 3: have some but nothing that I can't it's not work related.

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Speaker 2: Eighties got the boys tonight. Oh, she's going, she's got

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Speaker 2: skiing I know, and then I think she's she's got

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Speaker 2: the boys. Did I tell you that? Did I tell

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Speaker 2: you the boots? He went home sick after Okay, the

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Speaker 2: Ferris Bueller thing that I thought he called him out on.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna win. Then he ended up

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Speaker 2: home sick and I had to apologize by Kalpa. So

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Speaker 2: he goes to NBC's basketball game last night in Kent.

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Speaker 2: He's running around with his buddies. Okay, he said a

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Speaker 2: tip my hat. I just went, Okay, you win, dude,

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Speaker 2: like comprehensive defeat.

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Speaker 3: I have.

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Speaker 2: I stand no chance.

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Speaker 3: I was going to ask because at last we chatted, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he had gone home. He was being picked up show,

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Speaker 3: and you were like, I might have to apologize, but

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Speaker 3: I need to see what the situation is when I

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Speaker 3: get home, and the situation I didn't see him.

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Speaker 2: I went straight from he had a haircut at four

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Speaker 2: and then we met at NBC's basketball game last night.

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Speaker 2: First came back and and that was the first time

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Speaker 2: I saw him, and he was he was monkeying around

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Speaker 2: with his two buddies, Harrison and Henry, running around. It's

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Speaker 2: quite the Yeah, yeah, it's quite the I'm a I

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Speaker 2: just had a time my hat. Just go, good job.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's I defeated you in the morning. You

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Speaker 2: got a public Maya Kappa for me on the World's

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Speaker 2: radio show. And then now are you taking it back? No,

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Speaker 2: I have to just say, I just have to tip

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Speaker 2: my hand, just say you've won.

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Speaker 3: You won, you won yesterday, you won. He won the battle.

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Speaker 3: You haven't won the one.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you if I'll ever win truly

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Speaker 2: win a battle for him as long as his mother

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Speaker 2: is my wife, because I think all it takes is

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Speaker 2: a twinkle in his eye and then it's whatever you need, sweetie.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the way that shaw.

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Speaker 3: So did he go to school today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, back in the mix. Well, he had to because

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Speaker 2: otherwise he can't play this weekend. So the only way

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Speaker 2: you can play is if he goes to school today.

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Speaker 3: So he did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sucker eighty elever, hands full of him tonight. Perfect good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: keep my kid on her toes. That's right, that's right,

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Speaker 2: that's very good.

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Speaker 2: So we've got championship weekend. When you think of when

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Speaker 2: you think of championship weekend in the NFL, what comes

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Speaker 2: to mind for you?

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Speaker 3: I mean the eighties. Yeah, and getting ready to watch games.

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Speaker 3: I just remember, like this city shut. Friday was a holiday, yeah,

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Speaker 3: getting ready for the AFC Championship game. I mean it

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Speaker 3: was a holiday every Friday that the Browns were in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs in the eighties. I mean you had to.

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Speaker 3: You got extra credit for wearing the Browns. Browns gear,

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Speaker 3: around the wall. Whatever the case might be, you got

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Speaker 3: it if you wore Browns gear, like I remember the

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Speaker 2: The hell of the game, it sucked.

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Speaker 3: The field goal was no good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember, I've watched it. I remember watching the

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Speaker 2: game vividly and thinking it was no good, and I

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Speaker 2: had no rooting interest, yeah, other than I hated the Broncos,

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Speaker 2: but I did. Other than that.

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Speaker 3: I remember sitting in the living room watching bin Er fumble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like every.

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Speaker 3: One of those games, every one of those games, playoff games,

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Speaker 3: you were just you were You loved every single minute

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Speaker 3: of it. And it was so awesome to be playing

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Speaker 3: meaningful football. And then you'd win like the Jets, you know,

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Speaker 3: the double overtime win and you know, just random playoff games,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know, there was nothing like it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I can't imagine. And then to be in the

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Speaker 2: mix perpetually. I mean, I think of that with Kansas

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Speaker 2: City playing in their seventh straight and it's a legendary

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Speaker 2: fan base, and I know people are tired of it,

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Speaker 2: but Kansas City wasn't like this intel Mahomes, like they

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Speaker 2: had these little blips. Obviously, they won the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: terms of like in the modern era of football, they

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Speaker 2: but they weren't. They weren't like this seventh straight AFC champion.

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Speaker 2: They weren't that type of franchise. They weren't. They were

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Speaker 2: from their fans. But just think what these are like.

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Speaker 2: And I and to have one. Ever, here we go again,

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Speaker 2: We're back to the AFC Championship game, and here we go.

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Speaker 2: And I was thinking, for who would is it? Who

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Speaker 2: would have that's those are NBC broadcasts, Yep, the the

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Speaker 2: NBC had the NBC package at that time. Who's on

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Speaker 2: the call? Is that? Paul McGuire and Bob Trump? Who's

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Speaker 3: And Trumpy? That's right, don krikey, crikey. I never had

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Speaker 3: a problem with Cricky. A lot of people did. Trumpy.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to fight his mother wanted to fight me.

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Speaker 3: wanted to fight me. Fine, your son still sucks. Dick Enburg,

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Speaker 3: Merlin Olson. You know those were the two tandems, all right.

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Speaker 2: So NBC that would have been is that that's eighty

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Speaker 2: my gosh CB. Yeah, so that's obviously summer A loll

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Speaker 2: And Madden, Musburger's hosting NFL the NFL Today. Jimmy the

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Speaker 2: Greek is still on. IRV Cross and Will McDonough, Jimmy

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Speaker 2: the Greek, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Thiisman. Those are the folks

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Speaker 2: the the NBC side of it. I don't even see that.

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Speaker 3: The NBC.

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Speaker 2: The Yeah, IRV Cross was great. He gonna be in

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Speaker 2: the athletic director at Idaho State.

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Speaker 3: Really, yeah, he had no idea. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 2: NBC in eighty eight they brought in legendary broadcasters to

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Speaker 2: was because much of their key personnel were away in Soul,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The NBC crew was Dick Enberg, Don Kricky, Marv Albert,

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Speaker 3: I remember Charlie Jones was really good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting though, like CBS it was. It was always

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Speaker 2: that was the whole operation. And were the big one.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's when they were doing your game. You were,

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Speaker 2: you were on top.

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Speaker 3: Kricky was probably the two team or this three team depending.

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Speaker 3: We had Kricky and Trumpy.

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Speaker 2: A lot, all right, So eighty eight the number one

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Speaker 2: team was Yeah, it was Merlin Olson and then he

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Speaker 2: Olsen in eighty seven or Paul McGuire. So McGuire was

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Speaker 2: They put Merlin Olson went down. Yeah, and it was

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Speaker 2: It's stick Enburg, Bob Trumpy in ninety three, that in

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Speaker 2: five was Enburger Marv Albert with Phil Simms, Paul McGuire, Jim.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they just had like a hodgepodge of guys.

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Speaker 2: That's when Collinsworth's in the mix. Huh Yeah. NBC kind

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Speaker 2: CBS it was somewhere. That's what was to me, and

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Speaker 2: also as a kid, it was very much, okay, we're

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Speaker 2: just gonna let's just this is the super Bowl, is

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Speaker 2: the NFC, that's it. It was the winner of this

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Speaker 2: you didn't have two weeks between the Super Bowl, as

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Speaker 2: you played it the next three correct, and then the

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl was two weeks after. So in those days,

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Speaker 2: it was the Giants, the Redskins, the Bears, the forty

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Speaker 2: Against two. I think the Bears beat the Rams in one.

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Speaker 2: In eighty five, I think they beat the Rams. But

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Speaker 2: like the reality was is the winner of that game

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Speaker 2: was gonna go win the Super Bowl, and in most

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Speaker 2: instances it was going to be a blowout. So the

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Speaker 2: NFC Championship game felt like it had that type of

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Speaker 2: gravity to it. It was winner wins it. And a

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Speaker 2: lot of those Super Bowls were so lopsided. There was

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Speaker 2: a stretch what is it like eighty two until Denver.

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Speaker 3: Because horse Face got his face bashed in.

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Speaker 2: Well, he got super buried a lot. Buffalo got buried

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Speaker 2: a lot. Buffalo played a close game. I think your

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Speaker 2: boy horse Face played one close game against the Giants,

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Speaker 2: but other than that, it was really really lopsided. But

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Speaker 2: the eighty three is is eighty three the Raiders or

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, Donovan was here, Yeah, Gross was here, Mary

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Speaker 2: Safe, almost stop safe pro No, it is, it is,

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think the head coach of the Browns and

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Speaker 2: This is a pretty messy is a nice way to

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Speaker 3: So he had pulled his name on Tuesday or Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Yes, and part of the condition of signing was or

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Speaker 2: then fire general manager Trent Balkey, which changed everything for Cohen.

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Speaker 2: Bucks Brass were waiting for Cohen to sign the contract,

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Speaker 2: So the deal that Jacksonville gave him, I was reading

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Speaker 3: I'm not aware.

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Speaker 2: Here's his just like his path and you appreciate the hustle.

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Speaker 2: Starting in twenty ten Brown, he's thirty nine years old.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what this is when it all flips somehow,

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Speaker 3: So I didn't get my way, so I went back

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Speaker 2: But I don't his offensive Like, who's the offensive coordinator

435
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 2: for the Bucks in twenty two? Because this is like

436
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 2: Arians still there? No Arians was gone at that point.

437
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: I mean, this is like the eighth right left witch?

438
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 3: Was it left witch?

439
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: So Cohen got the job as offensive coordinator on February

440
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: fifth last year, So he wasn't even in the position

441
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: for a full year. Oh, we replaced the Dave Canalis

442
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 2: because Canalis was in.

443
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: Oh he was a surprise.

444
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So Bak has gotten Bak's play in Tampa.

445
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: This allow me some wiggle room here. Baker Mayfield's ran

446
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: as in Tampa Bay the people who are most responsible

447
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: with it from a play calling standpoint, his reputation was

448
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 2: such that with this play calling his career has been resuscitated.

449
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: All of the things that have followed. Has now needed

450
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: two people a head coaching job the last two years

451
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: working with Baker. That's wild. That's very wild.

452
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I who knows. It doesn't make

453
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 3: any sense a lot of hurt feelings. But I don't

454
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 3: understand why he's so coveted. Yeah, that's the thing I

455
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 3: don't understand. Like what who maybe it works, who knows?

456
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: But Orlovsky talked about this. These coaches now are these

457
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: salaries in the NFL have just gone through the moon.

458
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: Fifteen million, sixteen million a year coaching in the that

459
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: was never the case. You never saw that, and now

460
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 3: it's becoming the norm. Or we talked about it yesterday,

461
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 3: where like, there's clearly something wrong in Jacksonville when guys

462
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: are pulling their names out of the hats that have

463
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: never been head coaches. I said that yesterday. Yeah, and

464
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: then they fire Balki and it's all of a sudden,

465
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: they've got their guy within three hours. Now. Whether that

466
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 3: was shady or not, that's.

467
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: To be fe I don't know. I think it's I

468
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: think that to his call to Todd Bowles, the circumstances changed.

469
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: We went from I had to work with this guy

470
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: to now I can get my own GM.

471
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

472
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 2: There were all sorts of rumors that he wanted the

473
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: guy who ended up going to the Raiders, who worked

474
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: with in Tampa Bay to go be the GM with

475
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: him there. But that guy's already in Las Vegas, and

476
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: of course now he has a head coach. Because it's

477
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 2: reported that Pete Carroll has agreed to a three year

478
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 2: deal with a fourth year option to be the head

479
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 2: coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. He'll be the oldest

480
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: head coach in the NFL when the season starts. He

481
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 2: has seventy three.

482
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 3: What is going on?

483
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: I think what Tom Brady wants wanted for Las Vegas

484
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: is a culture tornado, and Pete Carroll is a culture tornado.

485
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: Like he will get them rowing in the same direction,

486
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: he will get them buying in they will. He will

487
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: provide culture. Now they're gonna have to hire somebody is

488
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: either offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator who is essentially a

489
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: coach in waiting. Is what it's gonna have to be.

490
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: And that's a tough job.

491
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, do you see him making it

492
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 3: through all four years of this contract? Probably not.

493
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, well, the two guys who

494
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: just ran for president, we're both eighty, So maybe you

495
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: can't coach in the NFL in your early seventies. I

496
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah, I mean it's it's old. But

497
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: I think he's a culture tornado, and I think it

498
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: makes sense for I think Brady came in there he

499
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: sees what a mess. It was culture wise. We got

500
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: to get somebody in here will have a powerful voice,

501
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: will get us all rowing in the same direction. And

502
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: so to me, that's what that's what the Pete Carroll

503
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: hiring is about.

504
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: There.

505
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: That job is a tough, tough job. They are in.

506
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: You were in the same division, by the way, think

507
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 2: of the coaches in that division.

508
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: Correct, That's where I was going.

509
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: Reaed, Carol Harbaugh, Peyton. Yeah, three super Bowl champions, one

510
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: national champion, Harbaugh to a super Bowl. The quarterbacks are

511
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 2: Herbert Nicks, Mahomes and fill in the blank for the

512
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 2: for the Raiders.

513
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 4: Hmm.

514
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: That's a tough job's fair.

515
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 3: And you've got an owner that's kind of all over

516
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: the place in a city that I'm not sure actually

517
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 3: cares that you're there.

518
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: You know better than me. I mean, when you guys

519
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: go there, what's the breakdown of you've been there, what's

520
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 2: the audience breakdown?

521
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 3: A lot of Browns fans, I mean it was it

522
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: was definitely a sixty forty them are to us we

523
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: were the forty, or we were the sixth, we were

524
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: the sixty.

525
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet they deal with that a lot. Yeah,

526
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: they went from having you know, one of the great

527
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: fan bases because they played the dump. One of the

528
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: great fan bases to one that was that. Now like

529
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: it's everybody's let's go to that away game. Let's go

530
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 2: to Vegas. Have that be the away game.

531
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the true fan travel our partners. Yeah,

532
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: you know, they've got three big road packages. London, Detroit

533
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 3: because you're playing the Lions, yeah, and Las Vegas. Yeah

534
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: because ves But.

535
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I guess you have a casino though Detroit, so

536
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: you could casino it up there.

537
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 4: You go.

538
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: Everybody's got casinos exactly. No, Yeah, that's it. I think

539
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: they're there is going to be And just to bring

540
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: this back to us a little bit, there's gonna be

541
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: a great deal of intrigue leading up to the Combine,

542
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: coming out of the combine through free agency. I think

543
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: much of it will be sorted out by the time

544
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: we get to April. But in terms of what happens

545
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: at the top of this draft and what these teams

546
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: that are all quarterback needy decide to do in the

547
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: draft and how they decide to handle it, how they

548
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: address quarterbacks, it's going to be fascinating how they do it,

549
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: and they the Raiders are at the top of that list.

550
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: Well, they've cost themselves the number one or number two

551
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: pick because they kept winning.

552
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, so yeah, they But you're at the top

553
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: of the board. I mean you think obviously we're sitting

554
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: there at two. Tennessee controls that. You heard comments from

555
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: their general manager this week talking about we're taking if

556
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: there's generational talent, will take it. There's a video going

557
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: round of cam Warden, Shaduur, Sanders working out and Shuder

558
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: calls himself generational and Camp says, I'm glad you think that,

559
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: and and then Shauduur says, yeah, trav going number one

560
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: like that type of stuff. So who knows what comes

561
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: of it. But Tennessee's got to figure out quarterback. We've

562
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: got to figure out quarterback. I mean quarterback, I know it.

563
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: Those the first three all have to figure out quarterback.

564
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: Patriots and Jackson. Jackson's picking fifth.

565
00:29:59,400 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: That's it.

566
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: Man, job could be good right now, that's a good job.

567
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: I like that roster. Vegas needs one at six, they've

568
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: got to get it figured out at quarterback. Jet's got

569
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: to get quarterback figured out there at seven. Carolina doesn't

570
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: New Orleans does there at nine, Bears are ten, and

571
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: then it's kind of sorts out in terms of quarterbacks

572
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: and you start getting a lot. Here's Indianapolis at fourteen.

573
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: Are they still going to run with that kid?

574
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. He can't complete a pass from me

575
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 3: to you.

576
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: No, he cannot.

577
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 4: No.

578
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of quarterback need in this in

579
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: this draft, and not enough to go around.

580
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Jordan Reid was on with us a couple

581
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: of weeks ago. He's like, I think there's two quarterbacks

582
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: that are first round worthy? Did he have themselves up?

583
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: Cam and Schador only two? I saw mickshay with this.

584
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: We I talked about Jackson Dart last week on the show.

585
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: McShay had was really hyped about what he saw from

586
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: him on tape. So the funny thing was, is on

587
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: Kuiper's big board at quarterback, he had Shadure one and

588
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: then he's got cam Ward two. His three is Milrow.

589
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: Pretty sure it's in that order. Let me, I'll pull

590
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: it up real quick.

591
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: Just we get it straight.

592
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: I know, goes Shadur Cam Milroe three, come on, get

593
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: there all right?

594
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

595
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: Then he has Jackson Dart three, Milroe four and then

596
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: it goes Kyle McCord, Will Howard, Quinn yours five six seven,

597
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel eight, Curtis Rourke nine, Tyler Show out of

598
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: Louisville is ten. The all three Buckeye quarterbacks go five

599
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: six seven. McCord five played last year at Syracuse. Of course,

600
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: Will Howard, who we all just saw win the national

601
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: championship on Monday night, and then Quinn ears. If you

602
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: would have told me that somehow quinn Ewers would be

603
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: slotted on a big board behind Kyle McCord and Will

604
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: Howard and they were all Buckeyes at one point, I

605
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: would have said, you're nuts. But that's how far quinn

606
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: Ewers fell in the eyes of evaluators. There is a

607
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: report out there right now that Jeremiah Smith at Ohio

608
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: State has been offered four and a half million dollars

609
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: to transfer somewhere. And I believe that number. I don't

610
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: know about the number is true, but I know that

611
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: that that a monster offer came to him. Their other

612
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: receiver at a monster offer as well, Carnell Tate, And

613
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: they're trying to who do we keep how do we

614
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: pay all these people? That's what they're dealing looking down there.

615
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: But if a receiver as good as Jeremiah Smith is,

616
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: if a receiver's worth four and a half, if that

617
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: offer is legitimate or it's going to take five for

618
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: them to keep him at Ohio State and he's generational,

619
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: what would yours be worth on one year? What would

620
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: Queen Earers be worth it? For one year at Notre

621
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: Dame or Texas A and M or Oregon? Is he

622
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: worth eight?

623
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

624
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: And honestly, if he if he's the seventh quarterback off

625
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 2: the board, I mean that's fourth round stuff. Why wouldn't

626
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: he go make the money?

627
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: I would again, I think that's why these guys are

628
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: sticking around.

629
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he should, he absolutely should. I mean he's this

630
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: is as low as people have thought of him in

631
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: terms of being a pro. Kiper's got him number seven

632
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: overall on his board. So is he in or is

633
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: he out? He's in right now. He hasn't pulled himself out.

634
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: I wonder when the deadline is for that.

635
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know if that matters anymore. Like in

636
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: college football, there's no rules to anything, so I don't

637
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: know what the heck's going to happen. But like he

638
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: could go back to college and crush it, absolutely crush it.

639
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know when it doesn't say when they

640
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: have to pull their name back. I'm not seeing that

641
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: on the calendar. Well, in college, nothing's enforceable. Like the

642
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: kid at the safety at Wisconsin last week, just went

643
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: to Miami. He's not even in the portal. He just

644
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: transferred to Miami. He's on the Miami football team, So

645
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: he just circummented the portal entirely. The NFL continuing to

646
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: be drunk today.

647
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: What else?

648
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: Twelve minutes ago, one year ago, he was a hot

649
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: head coaching candidate. He's now looking for work. Houston has

650
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: fired their offensive coordinator Bobby Slowick. Really, how about that?

651
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: Okay, he'll go to He'll go to Vegas.

652
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: Bobby Sloweck is out as the Texans OC per sources.

653
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Speaker 3: In the span of one year, slogan went from being

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Speaker 3: the hot head coaching candidates are now looking for work.

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Speaker 3: That's from Adam Schefter. How about them? Apples? Geez?

656
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Speaker 2: Troy Aikman loved him? What loved him?

657
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Speaker 3: How does that happen?

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Speaker 5: What? What?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: Z was always really critical of of CJ all year

661
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Speaker 2: and I remember and I understood it because he wasn't

662
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Speaker 2: as good as he was the year before. But I

663
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: remember Chris sim saying like, it ain't CJ. It's the protection,

664
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Speaker 2: it's it's not him.

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Speaker 3: Well, the on line coach got fired too, man.

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Speaker 2: I would think Slowa could be hired pretty quick. But yeah,

667
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: he could have been a head coach last year. Yeah,

668
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: and now he's on the Now he's on the outs.

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Speaker 3: So quite the day on a Friday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is lots of news on that side of things.

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Speaker 2: from The Bark Tank. Let's ever listen.

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Speaker 6: General Manager the Cleveland Browns, Andrew Berry, thanks for having

686
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 6: Jamis barked when he joined the Bark Tank.

687
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: You're not going to bark, you.

688
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 5: Know what that's you know, Jamis is a very unique personality.

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00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna leave all the barking

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Speaker 5: to him and our dog pound faithful, uh fair.

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Speaker 3: He was great.

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Speaker 6: By the way, with the bar kind of caught me

693
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Speaker 6: off guard and I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Know where to go from there.

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Speaker 6: But let's start with you, if we could. With your

696
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 6: end of season presser. I thought it was interesting that

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Speaker 6: you you opened kind of almost by bearing your soul

698
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Speaker 6: if you will a little bit, and you use the

699
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Speaker 6: word Andrew right out of the gate. Embarrassed.

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Speaker 5: Why, Yeah, I think it's it's the reality of you know,

701
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 5: coming into a season where we felt like we had

702
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 5: a good team, you know, we felt like we could

703
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 5: build off of some of the success that we had

704
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three, and for us to completely just

705
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 5: being candidate, fall flat on our face. You know, it's

706
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 5: just something that that that you know, when you fail

707
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 5: that spectacularly in a very public arena. Uh, it's just

708
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 5: something that it's it's hard to reconcile and it's hard

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00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: to live with week to week, especially in a situation

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Speaker 5: where you know, we are really we're really stewards of

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Speaker 5: a public asset.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: There are so many people in Northeast Ohio who you know,

714
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 5: bleed brown and orange. The Cleveland Browns are about how

715
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 5: they grow up, how they you know, how intricate role

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00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 5: in their daily lives. And I think there's just a

717
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 5: sense of like, you know, discipointment and embarrassment that we

718
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 5: let those people down this year, and we're resigned to

719
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Speaker 5: correcting that as we move forward.

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Speaker 6: You use the word reconcile just now, how do you

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Speaker 6: reconcile y?

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Speaker 5: Like, I think the reality of it is Unfortunately in

723
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Speaker 5: professional sports, you know, sometimes these years do happen. You'd

724
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 5: like to think that your team will perform up to expectations,

725
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 5: be young and in its prime, in you know, in perpetuity,

726
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 5: and you know that's not the reality of professional sports.

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00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 5: But for us not to be able to like stop

728
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 5: the fall or stop the bleeding. So this so to speak,

729
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 5: over the course of the year, you know, that's a

730
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 5: major problem. And it and it starts by you know

731
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 5: hard you know self analysis with you know, the roster

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Speaker 5: and really everything that we did to prepare the team

733
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Speaker 5: and then ultimately make the necessary adjustments. Which it's not

734
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Speaker 5: just players, it's not just coaches, not just support staff.

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Speaker 5: It's you know, auditing everything we do from a process

736
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Speaker 5: standpoint and adjust those when, you know, adjust those when

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Speaker 5: when when the results haven't been satisfactory. And that doesn't

738
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Speaker 5: mean that we don't have a number of good things

739
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Speaker 5: in place in those areas. And also, you know, make

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Speaker 5: sure that we're not letting the emotion of the season,

741
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Speaker 5: you know, kind of throw out the baby with the bathwater.

742
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Speaker 5: But you know, it would be niv for us not

743
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 5: to look at this year and say, hey, you know,

744
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 5: this went you know, really really wrong, and you know

745
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 5: we need to we need to you know, change our

746
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 5: approach in some areas to correct it.

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Speaker 6: All right, you said, and obviously I think everyone knows

748
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 6: now considering what we just discuss here, you're you're going

749
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 6: to have to remake the quarterback room. The general consensus

750
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 6: is veteran who could potentially start if.

751
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Speaker 3: Needed, and draft one as well.

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Speaker 6: Is is that a fair working plan, a thesis as

753
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Speaker 6: we sit here three months out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Andrew, I think it's I think it's too early

755
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 5: to say. We won't restrict ourselves in terms of, you know,

756
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: the avenues that we would explore, you know, at the position,

757
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 5: but we also want to make sure that that you know,

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Speaker 5: we're convicted on you know, whatever players that we bring

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00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 5: into that room. You know, we won't force anything in

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00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 5: any arena, but we'll be broad in terms of how

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Speaker 5: we think about the position.

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Speaker 6: Philosophically, Andrew. When it comes to the draft, there are

763
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Speaker 6: some there are some that just say, with a quarterback,

764
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Speaker 6: for example, Hey, I don't care where we're picking, whomever

765
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Speaker 6: we is, whatever organization.

766
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: This is if I believe in the guy hey in

767
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Speaker 2: the card.

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Speaker 6: Like I remember the Daniel Jones conversation years ago, Daniel

769
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 6: Jones extra Lawrence, Ah, you took the quarterback to Hi,

770
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Speaker 6: who cares if you think he's the guy hand in

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Speaker 6: the card?

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Speaker 3: Are you one of those guys? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I don't know that it's either or Andrew. You know,

774
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 5: I think they're like, generally speaking, if you think you

775
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 5: have a you know, you have a player where you

776
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 5: can consistently develop, you know, above average offense around that

777
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 5: individual's skill sets, you know, regardless of you know, whether

778
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: they're you know, a pocket passer, an out of structure playmaker,

779
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 5: a runner or whatever, you know, whatever that ends up being,

780
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Speaker 5: if you feel like you can, you know, build a

781
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 5: build an offense and put together a scheme that maximizes

782
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Speaker 5: that player's ability which will allow you to have above

783
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Speaker 5: average offense. You know, I think it makes sense to

784
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 5: you know, to take the player. Now. There are there

785
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 5: are you know, value considerations that come into it. You know,

786
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 5: for me, whether it's you know, a couple spots versus

787
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 5: you know, what's say, several rounds, you know, that's a

788
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 5: big difference. But you know what, I personally get caught

789
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 5: up on a player if it's like, okay, hey, you

790
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 5: know he may be the I don't know, tenth best

791
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 5: player in the draft, and it's like, okay, does that

792
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 5: mean you have to take him at ten?

793
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: No, I don't think.

794
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 5: I don't believe that's the case, just because the impact

795
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 5: of the position is so great.

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Speaker 6: The first round is so interesting. It's i mean, the

797
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Speaker 6: Thursday night of the first round for those of us

798
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Speaker 6: sitting on the couch watching, it's it's it's hard to

799
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Speaker 6: describe what's that like as a fan because we all

800
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 6: think where those in the media, we all think that we.

801
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Speaker 3: Know how the board should fall.

802
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 6: The last three years, obviously you're in the draft room,

803
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 6: you're you're on the phone, you're you're thinking, maybe can

804
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 6: we get up potentially, maybe someone's going to call us whatever.

805
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 6: But have you, this might sound on, learned anything about

806
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 6: the first round? Like, are there are lessons that maybe

807
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 6: you've taken by watching the last three years without a pick.

808
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say so, Andrew that there's anything that we've

809
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 5: learned because we haven't had a pick, because you know,

810
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 5: part of it is like part of it is like

811
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Speaker 5: for every team that's on the clock in the first round,

812
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Speaker 5: there's a lot of action that doesn't actually hit the

813
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 5: surface because there are a number of calls or discussions

814
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 5: that happen when you're within a couple you know, picks

815
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 5: of your slot that you you know you you may

816
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: not you may not take, you may not act on something,

817
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 5: and that never necessary necessarily hits like the public arena.

818
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: So there are all those.

819
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Speaker 5: Experiences that happen when you have a pick in the

820
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Speaker 5: first round that you can learn from that you can

821
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 5: you can take from you know, regardless of if you

822
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Speaker 5: ended up trading up, trading down, or city and picking.

823
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Speaker 5: You know, I think that you have seen a bit

824
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 5: of a shift in terms of some of the positional

825
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 5: value across the league, you know, particularly like at the

826
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Speaker 5: receiver position. You know, there was a year, you know,

827
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Speaker 5: probably in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty where you know,

828
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 5: you had a number of guys that could be you'd

829
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Speaker 5: have access to and in late one or even late

830
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 5: you know, even late two, that were excellent players, like

831
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Speaker 5: I think about you know, in twenty nineteen, you know,

832
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 5: you had guys like DK Metcalf, Terry I think, Terry

833
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 5: McLaurin that year, AJ Brown, who you know went in

834
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 5: the middle of the second round or later. And now,

835
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Speaker 5: like with the impact that that position has had in

836
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 5: our game, you've seen it. Despite the demand of the

837
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 5: receiver position, you see those guys go a lot, you know,

838
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 5: got a lot earlier now. So you do see trends

839
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 5: like that, you know as you as you sit back

840
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 5: and observe. But I would say it's less about not

841
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 5: being in the action and probably just more about you know,

842
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 5: seeing how the league shifts and evolves, you know, over

843
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 5: the last three.

844
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Speaker 6: To five Not to get too far down this rabbit earlier,

845
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 6: but isn't some of that with the wide receiver contract based.

846
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 6: Really the top of the market now is thirty five

847
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 6: and likely above whomever hits the jackpot on the next one.

848
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 6: And if you can lock in five years in the

849
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 6: first round or four in the second and and that

850
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 6: market is exploding on second contracts, why not lock in

851
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 6: that contract?

852
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: No, that's absolutely right.

853
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 5: I mean, if you think about it, you know, even

854
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 5: when we traded for.

855
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: You know, a mari uh.

856
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 5: You know, in twenty twenty two, the top of the

857
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 5: market was barely above you know, was barely above twenty.

858
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 5: Now that's a thirty five million dollar position and climbing.

859
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 5: You know, we'll we'll see that when whenever Jamar Chase

860
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 5: gets his extension done in the next in the next year.

861
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 5: And you know, those economic realities have certainly influenced the

862
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 5: trends that.

863
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: You see in the draft.

864
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Speaker 6: All right, offensive realities here. Mike Bloomgren, new offensive line coach,

865
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 6: former head coach at Rice. But if you go back

866
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 6: to his days in Palo Alto, they they ran the

867
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 6: football a lot I mean, we're going to see Power

868
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 6: fifteen eighteen times in a row.

869
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 5: It's a great question, Andrew. I don't think you'll see

870
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 5: the days where we're running Power fifteen eighteen times in

871
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 5: a row. But we think Mike is a fantastic O

872
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 5: line coach, you know, run game, in pass game. You know,

873
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 5: Mike uh he actually started his career under Bill Callahan

874
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 5: with the with the Jets as a QC went to

875
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: Stanford was David Shaws. One of his very first hires.

876
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 5: Implemented a lot of new things both from a protection

877
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 5: standpoint and a run game standpoint in Palo Alto with

878
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 5: with those great teams. One of the few like O

879
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 5: line coaches who's like parlayed that into a head coaching position,

880
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 5: which he did at Rice. You know, made them Bowl,

881
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 5: you know, made them eligible for like the first time

882
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 5: in forever. He's a really smart, great relationship builder, high

883
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 5: i Q in terms of technique and fundamentals, and we

884
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 5: think he'll be able to make a huge impact both

885
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 5: run and passing.

886
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: What are your next three months gonna be?

887
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 4: Like?

888
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, so the next three months are are you know,

889
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 5: we're we're we're pretty similar because we we really do

890
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 5: go into the off season as if we have an

891
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 5: expansion team. So the next several weeks are really auditing,

892
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 5: you know what we do internally, really almost doing an

893
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 5: optopsy of the season. Obviously heavily involved in in in

894
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 5: hiring different positions with you know, the coaching staff and

895
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 5: football operations. Will you know we'll be in you know,

896
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 5: full attendance to the major all star games, We'll go

897
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 5: in the draft meetings, combine free agency planning. Uh, it'll

898
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 5: be a busy it will be a busy string. And

899
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 5: you know, once to start the league year opens, you

900
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 5: know we'll have a plan in place with with vets

901
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 5: and eventually transition into into full time draft planning. But

902
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 5: you know we'll be we'll be ready to go once

903
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 5: we're being able to add players to the roster.

904
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 3: Were you.

905
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 6: Like a lot of fans keeping an eye on the

906
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 6: Patriots and Titans results?

907
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 3: And if so, what was that like?

908
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm not gonna sugar go and say

909
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 5: yeah we were, you know, after our season was after

910
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 5: our season was done. You know, like I said, I

911
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 5: hate how we got here.

912
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: But you know, one of the.

913
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 5: Silver linings is that it can put you in a

914
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 5: position to have a great impact on the team with however,

915
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 5: you use a really rare and valuable asset. Obviously, our

916
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 5: primary focus was on our players, you know. But you know,

917
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 5: once I got through my exit interviews, I did as

918
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 5: I was working, I did have an eye toward, you know,

919
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 5: toward those games because it does have a positive impact

920
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 5: for us as we entered the off season.

921
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 6: Does that involve like screaming and yelling at the TV

922
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 6: or are you a passive.

923
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 5: I'm a pretty I'm a pretty quiet and laid back,

924
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 5: laid back watcher's it's it's more observational than emotional.

925
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 6: Andrew, the next three month is going to be fascinating.

926
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 6: Look forward to seeing you on the road on the

927
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 6: path to the draft. As we used to say, I

928
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 6: hope you get five minutes at one point to have

929
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 6: a break and catch your breath in the off season.

930
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 6: And again, thanks for doing this.

931
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 5: Appreciate you, Andrew.

932
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 3: See you at the Senior Bowl.

933
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: All right, great stuff with Andrew and ab there and

934
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: that Senior Bowl is going to be here before we

935
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: know it. I should add a couple of things on

936
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl. Because of the elite times of the

937
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: National Championship Game, Jack Sawyer will not be participating in

938
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl. No Will Howard either in that Our

939
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: guy Bobbavan Trone coaches American team, the American team in

940
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. And Andrew's going to join.

941
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 3: Us next week.

942
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: Yes, Honestly, if I'm Will Howard, I wouldn't really do

943
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: any of this stuff after the way he The last

944
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: taste is up, buddy, I'll see in Ohio State's Pro Day.

945
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: I'll see at the Pro Day. That's what That's what

946
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: I do if I were based on the way that

947
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: he played there. All right, It is Championship weekend. Adam

948
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 2: Teisher ESPN, NFL Nation. He's been on the Chiefs beat

949
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: for a long time. This is their seventh straight. No

950
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: one can get a set for this one quite like

951
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: he can. He will join us coming up next second hour,

952
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,080
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959
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,239
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00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,640
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961
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,560
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962
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963
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: Esp NFL Nation reporter for the Kansas City Chiefs, the

964
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: Great Adam Tischer joins us on the hotline. Adam, appreciate

965
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 3: a few minutes of your time. I know it's a

966
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 3: busy week, twenty some days off. What are the Chiefs

967
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 3: gonna look like? Are they really gonna still be the

968
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 3: same team? YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. Business as usual in

969
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 3: the Divisional round last week and all win over the Texans.

970
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was. And you know they Russ or no Russ.

971
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 7: They looked, particularly on offense. They did a lot of

972
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 7: the same things. They showed a lot of the same

973
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 7: It looked like the same team we'd seen for a

974
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 7: lot of the regular season. They were sort of hoping

975
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 7: with the last couple of regular season games in which

976
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 7: everybody played the Houston. They played Houston in Week sixteen

977
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 7: in Pittsburgh in Week six seventeen. Those were two of

978
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 7: their better offensive games in the season. They were sort

979
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 7: of hoping that maybe that was the start of a

980
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 7: trend here, but really struggled on offense against Houston out

981
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 7: game by about one hundred and twenty five, so that

982
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 7: part of it is still a work in progress. Defensively,

983
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 7: they played pretty well with the eight sacs, so I'm

984
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 7: gonna need to play well again this weekend if they're

985
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 7: going to move on to the Super Bowl.

986
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 3: What has been the issue with the offense? I mean,

987
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 3: I mean, you have Mahomes, you have Andy Reid, You've

988
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 3: got some talented pieces and parts around them, obviously with

989
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: Kelsey as well. But what the offense has done just

990
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: enough which has worked. I mean the number one seed

991
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 3: in the AFC and they've got home field advantage for

992
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 3: a big one on Sunday and the AFC Championship game.

993
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 3: But what has the issue been with the offense?

994
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 7: Well, it's been a number of things, starting with injuries.

995
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 7: You know, they expected their big three at wide receiver

996
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 7: to be Hollywood Brown or she Rice and the rookie

997
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 7: Xavier Worthy, and for most of the season they just

998
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 7: had the rookie. They just had Xavier Worthy where she

999
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 7: Rice played in three full games the first quarter of

1000
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 7: a fourth game and got hurt and was out of

1001
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 7: the year. And Hollywood Brown didn't play until a week

1002
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 7: sixteen game against Houston. So most of the year they're

1003
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 7: playing with one of their their big three on the outside,

1004
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 7: and so things were a little different. And and Neo

1005
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 7: Travis Kelsey's thirty five years old now and not quite

1006
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 7: what he was, although he looked pretty good against the

1007
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 7: Texans last Saturday, for sure. You know, the pass protection

1008
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 7: has not been what it was. Mahomes was sacked during

1009
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 7: the regular season thirty six times. That's by far the

1010
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 7: most he's been sacked in a season. And you know,

1011
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 7: left tackle, they're on their fourth left tackle of the

1012
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 7: season now. They've had to bench three other players at

1013
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 7: various times of the season and now they moved a guard,

1014
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 7: Joe Tuney, out to left tackle and so you know,

1015
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 7: it's just not been what it has been in past years.

1016
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 7: So you know that's definitely affected Mahomes. So you know,

1017
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 7: their biggest problems they just have been unable to get

1018
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 7: the big play. They just you know, that's what we've

1019
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 7: known that the Chiefs four for so many years, but

1020
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 7: this year they have really struggled getting the big plays

1021
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 7: and uh, they're they're they're still hopeful that can happen,

1022
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 7: but it's getting pretty late, so they better they better

1023
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 7: get on that if they're going to make it happen.

1024
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: What what is going to happen with the left tackle?

1025
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 3: Will it be Tony on Sunday? We think or I

1026
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 3: know that last week there were two. It was Tony

1027
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: and I believe someone else was working out at that

1028
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: position all week. But it'll be Tony, I would have

1029
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 3: to assume till further notice.

1030
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, they had DJ Humphreys as he's a veteran that

1031
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 7: they signed late in the year. He played a number

1032
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 7: of years for Arizona. They they picked him up late

1033
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 7: in the year, but then he played, did not play well,

1034
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 7: got hurt. He's healthy now and ready to go. But

1035
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 7: at this point Tony has at least stopped the bleeding

1036
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 7: over there. Uh so that's the they that's the way

1037
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 7: they feel is best for them to go forward here

1038
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 7: and uh, we'll see if the Bills can take advantage.

1039
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 7: Toney did not play left tackle against the Bills. He

1040
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 7: was at guard when they played the Bills in week eleven,

1041
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 7: so we'll see how the Bills attack him and how

1042
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 7: they how successful they are.

1043
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: Talking with Adam Tischer, ESPN, NFL Nation reporter for the

1044
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs in his thirty second year covering the

1045
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 3: Kansas City Football Chiefs as we get ready for the

1046
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 3: AFC Championship game. Do the Chiefs prefer mid afternoon or

1047
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: do they prefer the evening?

1048
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they'd rather play earlier in the day

1049
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 7: and get this thing going. But at least out here

1050
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 7: it's five thirty at least, it's not the night games

1051
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 7: that they've had so many of it, and some of

1052
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 7: those have been on the East Coast, so it's eight

1053
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 7: fifteen or eight twenty at least, it's not that. So

1054
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 7: I always feel like the waiting is harder on the

1055
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 7: road team maybe than the home team, So you know,

1056
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 7: it works both ways. But yeah, if they had their pick,

1057
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 7: they'd play an earlier start, for sure.

1058
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes one in four versus Buffalo in the regular season,

1059
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 3: but three and zero in the playoffs. Who does pass

1060
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: Mahomes view Moore's arrival? Is it Josh Allen or is

1061
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 3: it Joe Burrow? Both? Really?

1062
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 7: You know, both guys or have they? They've had some

1063
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 7: great games against the Bills. I mean that everybody remembers

1064
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 7: the Divisional round game two years ago. The third it's

1065
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 7: known in Kansas City is the thirteen second game because

1066
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 7: that's when the Chiefs got the two big passes in

1067
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 7: thirteen seconds to get into field goal range to put

1068
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 7: the game in overtime and the Chiefs scored in overtime

1069
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 7: to win and move on to the AFC Championship game.

1070
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 7: You know, there was that they combined I think the

1071
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 7: two of them for seven touchdowns and seven hundred and

1072
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 7: seventy some yards, so it was it was quite a game,

1073
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 7: quite a show by those two guys. And then last

1074
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 7: year's playoff game between the Chiefs and Bills and the

1075
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 7: division round in Buffalo was quite an interesting game as well.

1076
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 7: So they've had their great games. You know, the Chiefs

1077
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 7: and the Bengals, even in the regular season have had

1078
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 7: some great matchups. So I think it's one A and

1079
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 7: one B.

1080
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 3: Really is the pressure on Josh Allen or is it

1081
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: on Mahomes Sunday? I've seen some of the national pundits,

1082
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: some of the national shows are like this is Mahomes Legacy,

1083
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 3: and I go, Well, here's a man that's already he's

1084
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 3: got three super Bowls already. I'm not I think the

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00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 3: legacy is planted. I mean, but is the pressure more

1086
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 3: on Josh Allen or is it on Patrick.

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00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 7: Mahomes Again, I think it's one A and one B.

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00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 7: I think it's just depends on how you look at it.

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00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 7: I mean, what's the talking to be around Josh Allen

1090
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 7: if the Bills lose this game, you know, and whether

1091
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 7: it's deserved or not, and it probably won't be, but

1092
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 7: it'll be there. And you know Mahomes, Hey, no one's

1093
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 7: I don't think going to question him if the Chiefs

1094
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 7: don't win this game. And yet look what he's trying

1095
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 7: to play for here, you know whatever, you know, being

1096
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 7: the first NFL quarterback to lead a team to three

1097
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 7: super Bowl championships. I mean, that's quite the quite a

1098
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 7: carrot there. So he's playing for a lot himself. So

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00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 7: I think both these guys or have a lot on

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00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 7: the line.

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00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: No doubt regular season Buffalo wins, they forced Mahomes into

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00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 3: two turnovers. It's a Buffalo team that does force a

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00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: lot of turnovers. But it was also the Chiefs third

1104
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 3: down defense against the Bills. The Bills converted nine to

1105
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 3: fifteen on third down in that week eleven win Buffalo

1106
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 3: with seventy one offensive place Kansas City just had fifty two.

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00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 3: I know we talk about Christ Jones, we talk about

1108
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 3: that secondary for the Kansas City Chiefs, but I feel

1109
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 3: like the guy that's probably going to have to be

1110
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: the main cog for Kansas City outside of Christ Jones

1111
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: is George Carloftis. Would you agree that he's the guy

1112
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: that could make or break this defense against Buffalo?

1113
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, he's been a big part in their

1114
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 7: the sort of increased production of their pass rush here.

1115
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 7: I mean, the Chiefs had twenty one sacks in their

1116
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 7: first eleven games. We're just having incredible difficulty getting in

1117
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 7: any kind of pressure when they didn't blitz during that

1118
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 7: stretch of games, and it said coincidence. Maybe the last

1119
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,959
Speaker 7: of those games was the Buffalo game and they didn't

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00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 7: get any they didn't sack Josh Allen at all that day.

1121
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 7: And then since then the Chiefs have had twenty six

1122
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 7: sacks in the seven games, counting the eight against Houston

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00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 7: the other day, So they've really turned up the pressure defensively.

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00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 7: And you're right, I mean, you look at that first

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00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 7: game against the Bills. The Bills had the ball thirty

1126
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 7: four minutes, they ran seventy one plays to fifty two

1127
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 7: for the Chiefs. If there's that kind of imbalance again,

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00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 7: I think the Chiefs are really going to be up

1129
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 7: up against it to try to win the game. I mean,

1130
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 7: you can't give a good team that kind of advantage

1131
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 7: in terms of number of plays and time of possession.

1132
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 7: So Chiefs are going to have to do better at

1133
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 7: getting the Bills off the field, and certainly a discipline

1134
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 7: pass rush against a great running quarterback is going to.

1135
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 3: Be part of that.

1136
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 7: And eager to see how the Chiefs attack that. How

1137
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 7: they do they blitz as much as they did against Houston?

1138
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 7: Do they not do that? What their tactics are going

1139
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 7: to be to try to prevent Josh Allen from converting

1140
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 7: all these third downs like you did the last time round.

1141
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 3: Is this the best version of Josh Allen that you've

1142
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 3: seen in your time covering this rivalry?

1143
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean again, I've only seen him in person once,

1144
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 7: but he was great against the Chiefs that day and

1145
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 7: what I've been able to catch him and other times,

1146
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 7: I'm sure he's playing as well. That's why I thought

1147
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 7: that the Chiefs would be better off playing Baltimore in

1148
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 7: this round rather than the Bills. Hey, Lamar Jackson was

1149
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 7: having a great season, but just not as consistent maybe

1150
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 7: as Josh Allen. I don't think he's quite as resourceful

1151
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 7: as Josh Allen. So I think the Chiefs would have

1152
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 7: been better off had this been the matchup would be

1153
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 7: better for them. They've been playing the Ravens.

1154
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 3: The Kansas City Chiefs will be playing for a third

1155
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: straight Super Bowl if they do what on Sunday.

1156
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 7: If they can. You know, the Bills have lived all

1157
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 7: year off the turn off turnovers. I mean they have

1158
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 7: not incredibly not lost the turnover battle all year long.

1159
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 7: I mean they were plus three right against Baltimore last

1160
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 7: week and still only won the game by two points.

1161
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 7: So they're living off these turnovers. If the Chiefs can,

1162
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 7: and the Chiefs have done a great job recently and

1163
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 7: protecting the ball, they haven't turned it over in quite

1164
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 7: some time. If they can be even or better in

1165
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 7: the turnovers, not shorten any not cost themselves any possessions

1166
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 7: or chances to score points or anything like that with turnovers,

1167
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 7: and maybe get a turnover too on the Bills themselves.

1168
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 7: I think they can win. That's their path to win

1169
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 7: the game. But if this game is going to be

1170
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 7: played like the last one, where the Bills are going

1171
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 7: to have again a huge advantage in turnovers, offensive snaps,

1172
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 7: time of possession, then I think that gets really difficult

1173
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 7: for the Chiefs.

1174
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Speaker 3: All Right, I know it's been made mentioned of. I

1175
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: had mentioned it earlier. Thirty two years covering the Kansas

1176
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 3: City Chiefs. You're stepping away at the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping selfishly we get one more chance to talk

1178
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 3: to you and we can we can preview a little

1179
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 3: Super Bowl talk here. We appreciate all the time that

1180
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 3: you've ever given us. Is there a moment that stands

1181
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 3: out in the in the thirty two years, Is there

1182
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 3: a favorite person that you enjoy talking to the most,

1183
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 3: or is there something that's happened that really just stands

1184
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 3: out to you as one of the pinnacle moments of

1185
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: your career covering this football team.

1186
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 7: Not one specific story or one specific person or one

1187
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 7: specific moment, but I think just the whole the Chiefs.

1188
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 7: You know, every once in a while, my first whatever

1189
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 7: it was twenty or so years covering the team would

1190
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 7: have a good team, but it was they never could

1191
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 7: finish the job, and just and for most of the time,

1192
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 7: they really had no idea how to go about building

1193
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 7: a consistent winner and just just going seeing from what

1194
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 7: they were for so many years and how they just

1195
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 7: really had no idea to become this kind of franchise.

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Speaker 7: To finally getting there and being the it franchise, that's

1197
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 7: really been fun to see, you know that, that's been

1198
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 7: interesting to see how they've transformed themselves. And you know,

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Speaker 7: it's easy to forget, you know, the in the I

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01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 7: think it was the six seasons before Andy Reid got

1201
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 7: to the Chiefs. They won four or fewer games in

1202
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 7: four of those six seasons. I mean, that's ancient history now,

1203
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 7: but I still remember those days and it just seemed like,

1204
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 7: you know, they were lost and will never find their

1205
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 7: way out. And you know, so I you know that

1206
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 7: the Browns could certainly get to this point. I mean,

1207
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 7: it's it's hard to see right now. I get that,

1208
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 7: but hey, if the Chiefs could do it, certainly the

1209
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 7: Browns could do it, no doubt about it.

1210
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 3: Well, I hope we get a chance to talk to

1211
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 3: you again here in the season if I wish you

1212
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 3: and your wife health and happiness and congratulations on an

1213
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 3: amazing career and look forward to talking with you again soon. Adam,

1214
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 3: thanks for the time.

1215
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 7: Thanks Thanks, Jason's been a lot of fun over the years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was him.

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Speaker 2: Really so I heard him, I'd know him.

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Speaker 3: Yep. Absolutely, He's doing two nights. I mean, yeah, two nights.

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Speaker 3: The hell of nights downtown Cleveland will be insane. That's

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01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 3: right in the middle of the Browns preseason. Yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 3: sould that mean that we're to be on the road.

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Speaker 2: He'll be on the road. Yeah, I'll tell you that. Yeah, Miranda, Lambert, Thomas, Rhett,

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Speaker 2: Ella Langley, there you go.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: That'll be fine.

1242
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's the eighties already.

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Speaker 2: Hit me up. He's ready to go.

1244
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Speaker 3: You've got your development, go ahead and pay for that yourself.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what she's she can She's got all

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Speaker 2: the bootsy baby watching she wants. I mean, we can

1249
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: get that thing called all greased up and ready to go.

1250
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 2: You got Buddy Garretty.

1251
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Speaker 3: Bootsy between the two in for all of that.

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Speaker 2: She's good, good to go. She had such a great

1253
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 2: job at the Boys. They love her. Lots going on

1254
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: in the NFL world. Yeah, we'll talk a little bit

1255
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 2: about the se championship game in a second, just and

1256
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: the end. But just if you're just joining us, Lots

1257
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 2: going on, So it is official in Jacksonville with Liam Cohen.

1258
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 2: They tweeted out an image saying tea looks good on you, coach.

1259
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: So that is a convoluted path to get him to

1260
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 2: be the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now it

1261
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: is made possible, of course, because of the firing of

1262
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 2: Trent Balky, and we were wondering is that something that

1263
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 2: had to happen first, and indeed it did. Then Cohen

1264
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: reversed course and he returned and is now going to

1265
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 2: be the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1266
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 4: So you have that.

1267
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 2: So that happened earlier this morning. Then a little bit later,

1268
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll agreed to be the head coach of the

1269
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders. That's a reportedly and sources on that.

1270
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 2: That one's not official yet, but it's headed towards him

1271
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: being the coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. So that's

1272
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: happening as well. On the coordinator side of things, the

1273
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: Texans have fired offensive coordinator brought Bobby Slowik after two seasons.

1274
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 2: Heard it. I read an incredible tweet on this that

1275
01:05:55,320 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 2: I thought was very good perspective on NEWSBA being broken.

1276
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: It was Buddy Mind. Heath Clin does radio down in Atlanta.

1277
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 2: He tweeted this out and it made a ton of sense.

1278
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: This is a great example of why you need to

1279
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 2: follow the people who cover the team. National people are

1280
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 2: shocked at the firing of Slook, nobody who covers the

1281
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 2: team is shocked at the firing of Sloak. That's the difference.

1282
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 2: That's a great point is that there is this perception

1283
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: nationally that slowly because this boy genius like giving the

1284
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: keys to the Kingdom with the Cowboys everything, but locally

1285
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 2: they're like, actually, there were some problems here, including some

1286
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 2: issues with CJ. Stroud where he wasn't maybe crazy about it,

1287
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 2: and there was a much different story being told boots

1288
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 2: on the ground in Houston than the perception was nationally.

1289
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Speaker 3: That was my point. If we had time today, I

1290
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 3: would put the general on Yeah. Yeah, he would tell you,

1291
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 3: no doubt he would uh shod con By the way,

1292
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:54,439
Speaker 3: released a statement to repeat my message earlier this week.

1293
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 3: I'm deeply committed to building a winner here in Jacksonville.

1294
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 3: I also believe in being judged by action, not words.

1295
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 3: That's why I took swift and decisive action this week

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Speaker 3: to hire Liam Cohen as the new head coach. Of

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01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars. I am pumped that Liam is accepting

1298
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 3: the challenge and opportunity to build a winner that Jags

1299
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 3: fans and partners fully deserve. I know our players feel

1300
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 3: the same. They just got to do it.

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01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:21,959
Speaker 2: They just got to do it. They have everything else.

1302
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: I mean they to me, they have all of it.

1303
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, there's a there's that's a really nice job.

1304
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if Leam Code could coach at all.

1305
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: Who knows.

1306
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 3: I don't know either, very little about the guy, yep

1307
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 3: find out.

1308
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: I think it's odd that he was in that he

1309
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 2: went from Rams to Kentucky, back to Rams, back to

1310
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 2: Kentucky before going to Tampa Bay. But whatever, he's the

1311
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 2: guy there now. In terms of the schedule for this weekend,

1312
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: your three o'clock game is your NFC Championship game. That

1313
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 2: is the Commanders and the Eagles. The Eagles trying to

1314
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 2: get back to the Super Bowl. They've been frequently in

1315
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl here in the last decade. The Commanders,

1316
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 2: that franchise, trying to get back to the Super Bowl

1317
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 2: for the first time since nineteen ninety one. That's Mark

1318
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 2: Rippin on that team in nineteen ninety one that they

1319
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 2: they're trying to get back for the first time since then.

1320
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 2: Ironically enough, the team they've played in ninety one was

1321
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, and potentially they could have a Super

1322
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: Bowl rematch there. The six thirty game is the Bills

1323
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs. The Chiefs is public enemy number one

1324
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 2: in all of this. It's kind of the Batman line,

1325
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 2: right if you're the hero, you know, you run a

1326
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 2: long you hear long enough, you'd become the villain. There's

1327
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,879
Speaker 2: a little bit of that with them. There wasn't anybody

1328
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: at the beginning the first few years with Mahomes who

1329
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 2: didn't think this is the most fun I've ever had

1330
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: watching football. Just now they don't play that way anymore.

1331
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 2: They don't have the weaponry, so they've kind of changed

1332
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 2: how they go about their business and their style of

1333
01:08:55,720 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 2: play is very, very different. But seventh straight AFC championships

1334
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: for them trying to do something that's never been done,

1335
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 2: which has win three straight Super Bowls, and they're two

1336
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: wins away from it. It does feel to me that

1337
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 2: the winner the way that I talked earlier in the

1338
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: show about the NFC Championship versus the AFC Championship When

1339
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 2: I was a kid at the NFC being like the

1340
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Kind of feel that way about the AFC.

1341
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 2: Here it feels like Bill's or Chiefs. I'd like either

1342
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 2: one against either one of the NFC teams.

1343
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the AFC Championship. A lot of people

1344
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 3: would say that might be your super Bowl. That's kind

1345
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 3: of where, you know, and Adam Tyscher I just said,

1346
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 3: I go, who's the big arrival for Mahomes? Is it

1347
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 3: Allen or is it Burrow? He goes one A, one B,

1348
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 3: however you see it? Yeah, And then I said, who

1349
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 3: does this game from an important standpoint for them personally?

1350
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: Does it mean more for Mahomes or Alan? Now the

1351
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 3: first thing you'd say is, well, Josh Allen because Josh

1352
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 3: Allen hasn't gotten to the mountaintop yet. Yeah, Rightomes has.

1353
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 3: But I've seen national narrative all week like get Up

1354
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 3: and a few others. One of the mccordy twins was saying,

1355
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 3: this is more important for Mahomes, and I'm like, I

1356
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 3: don't know about that.

1357
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 2: It's more important for Mahomes if he wants to track

1358
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: down Tom Brady. It's kind of like Lebron right, Lebron

1359
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: trying to track down Jordan. Is Mahome's going to get

1360
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 2: to seven Super Bowl Championships. No, I don't think so.

1361
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 2: I don't think that he is. But if he can

1362
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 2: do something that Brady didn't winning three in a row,

1363
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: then you can start to have that conversation. That's like Lebron.

1364
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: For Lebron, he was never gonna get to six titles

1365
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 2: that Jordan has. He's got the four, but he did

1366
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: something Jordan didn't do. He's the all time leading scorer

1367
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: in the history of the league and he played at

1368
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: the highest level for twenty years, so his claim he

1369
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 2: changed the argument on greatest of all time. It's funny.

1370
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: You ask my kids and they'll say Lebron. They will

1371
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 2: like they that's that's there. They don't have a point

1372
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: of reference on Jordan, correct, other than the sneakers like

1373
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 2: that's it. So they'll ask me and I say Jordan,

1374
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: and I think the same will be true here. So

1375
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: if Mahomes can get his third consecutive, then that willow

1376
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 2: that'll be his fourth all time. It'll be his third

1377
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 2: consecutive and it allows him to change the dialogue around

1378
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 2: it from what it was. He now changes the argument.

1379
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 2: He says, well, now Brady did I did. Brady didn't

1380
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 2: do this. I did something he didn't do. So that's

1381
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: something where I think it. I think overall the answer

1382
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: is Alan because he hasn't been there and he could

1383
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: get his first And I mean, can you imagine a

1384
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl championship in Buffalo that'd be like here.

1385
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 3: Yes, correct, I'm watching the game. One of my one

1386
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 3: of my best friends is a Bills fan. I am

1387
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 3: watching it with him and his wife Sunday night. It

1388
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 3: could go a multitude of different ways.

1389
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you four places I might I

1390
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 2: might not be able to make it in Ony, I'm

1391
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 2: going to give you four places that it would just

1392
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 2: be different if they ever won it. I think three

1393
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 2: are just very easy in Buffalo, Cleveland, and Detroit, US

1394
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: in those two would be totally different. I also think

1395
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 2: it would be that way in Minnesota. They don't get

1396
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: the credit. I think a large part because they oddly enough,

1397
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 2: I think, I know it's weird because they play in dome.

1398
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 2: Like people don't see the long suffering because they've always

1399
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 2: played in a dome. Minnesota play for a bunch of

1400
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 2: Super Bowls in the seventies, they've gotten close a bunch

1401
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: as a bunch of heartache. That is a great fan base.

1402
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: That place will go nuts if they ever won the

1403
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Absolutely in Minnesota. So I think those four

1404
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: are kind of just built a little bit different when

1405
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: it comes to if you ever pop the cap on

1406
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: winning a super Bowl, it would be pretty special, all right,

1407
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: in order for us to win a Super Bowl, we

1408
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: would certainly love to do so. While Miles Garrett is

1409
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: still in the mix, our position reviews continue now with

1410
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 2: doctor Z and he's in the edge rusher room.

1411
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 4: All right, let's take a look at one of the

1412
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 4: better rooms, or at least better position rooms. I think

1413
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 4: for the Cleveland Browns, that doesn't preclude them from necessarily

1414
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 4: adding or even aggressively adding at the year, the top

1415
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 4: of the draft, top of the second round this position.

1416
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 4: But I'm talking about the edge rusher room, and of

1417
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 4: course that is led by the incomparable Miles Garrett. Miles

1418
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 4: Garrett pro bowler again this season, and for Miles you're

1419
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 4: talking about just an absolute stud. Six time Pro bowler,

1420
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 4: four time first team All Pro, two times second team

1421
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 4: All Pro. He was the Defensive Player of the Year

1422
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three and very well could be the

1423
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 4: defensive Player of the Year again this season.

1424
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 2: That is how good he is.

1425
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 4: He's the number one grated defensive player at Pro Football

1426
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 4: Focus period. Miles this year fourteen sacks, three forced fumbles,

1427
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 4: a pass defense, fumble recovery, twenty two tackles for a lost,

1428
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 4: twenty eight quarterback hits. Miles Garrett this year became the

1429
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 4: first player in NFL history to have fourteen or more

1430
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 4: sacks in four straight seasons. He became the first player

1431
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 4: in NFL history to reach one hundred sacks before their

1432
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 4: twenty ninth birthday. His twenty two tackles for loss they

1433
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 4: led the National Football League. Miles Garrett remains as good

1434
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 4: as he can be. He's the best, the best edgebrusher

1435
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 4: in the league, the best defensive player in the league,

1436
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 4: and the Browns certainly are happy to have him. So

1437
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 4: his greatness it continued again in twenty twenty four. The

1438
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 4: Browns expects certainly that to continue again in twenty twenty five.

1439
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 4: Last we heard from Miles, he was on hard Knock

1440
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 4: saying that this team is a lot closer than people think,

1441
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,560
Speaker 4: and he's excited about the direction and to be a

1442
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 4: part of that now. Going into this season, it was

1443
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 4: supposed to be Miles Garris on one side, Zadarius Smith

1444
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 4: on the other. Zadaria Smith played very well for your

1445
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns this year, but he did not finish the

1446
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 4: season with the Cleveland Browns. In nine games this year,

1447
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 4: Zadaria has had five sacks, six tackles for a loss,

1448
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 4: seven quarterback hits, three passes defense. He was all over

1449
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 4: the field getting to the quarterback, making plays, generating a

1450
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 4: great deal of pressures as well. But the Browns, when

1451
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 4: they were kind of out of it, they traded him

1452
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 4: to the Detroit Lions, and they got for in exchange

1453
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 4: for Zadarias Smith and a seventh round pick in twenty

1454
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 4: twenty six, they got a twenty twenty five fifth round pick,

1455
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 4: so that's coming up in this draft, and a twenty

1456
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 4: twenty six sixth round pick. Zadarius consonant pro got a

1457
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 4: chance to win. Browns gave him that there in Detroit.

1458
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 4: Did not work out. They lost in the divisional round

1459
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 4: of the playoffs. But big Z great player here, great

1460
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 4: locker room guy. But the Browns had some young talent

1461
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 4: at that position and young talent in those in light

1462
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 4: of those trades, they often get a chance to step up. Now,

1463
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 4: going into the season, your top four defensive ends were

1464
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 4: gonna be Miles Garrett, Zadarias Smith, Alex Right entering his

1465
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 4: third season, coming off of a great finish to the

1466
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 4: year before, in which Alex Right he would have a

1467
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 4: sack in each of his final five games. Well, this year,

1468
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 4: Alex Wright season was cut short after just four games

1469
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 4: in Las Vegas, he had one sack on the year.

1470
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 4: He would finish the season on injured reserve. And so

1471
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 4: Alex Right now we didn't get to see as much

1472
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 4: of him, and that is he's going into his fourth

1473
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 4: year now, the final year of his rookie deal. Who

1474
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 4: was the Browns third round pick in the twenty twenty

1475
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 4: two NFL Draft, So so much promise at the end

1476
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 4: of twenty three, you really thought this would be a

1477
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 4: breakout season for him, and unfortunately it was derailed due

1478
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 4: to an injury and he spent the better part of

1479
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 4: the season on injured reserve. So you thought it was

1480
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,759
Speaker 4: gonna be Alex Right. Well, he also probably thought obo

1481
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 4: Okoronquo and obo ocuron Quo a veteran, the Browns signed

1482
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 4: him to a three year, nineteen million dollars deal prior

1483
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 4: to the twenty three season. This was his second year

1484
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 4: with the Cleveland Browns and had a solid season, but

1485
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 4: it wasn't on par with his first year here with

1486
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns. Now he was available, which was great,

1487
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 4: played in sixteen games. He's so tough. But in his

1488
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 4: first year with the Browns he had four and a

1489
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 4: half sacks twelve tackles for a loss. This year he

1490
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 4: had three sacks and six five tackles for a loss.

1491
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 4: He did make five starts, which was the most he

1492
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 4: had made since twenty twenty two there in Houston. So

1493
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 4: made five starts. He got some opportunities, he did play well.

1494
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 4: But the guy who really took advantage of these opportunities,

1495
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 4: the guy that I think elevated his stock in this

1496
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 4: building more than anybody headed into twenty twenty five was

1497
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 4: Isaiah McGuire. McGuire in just his second season out of Missouri.

1498
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 4: He was the Browns fourth round pick in the twenty

1499
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 4: twenty three NFL draft. Isaiah McGuire in his second year

1500
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 4: really showed something I think special. He's gonna be going

1501
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 4: into his third year next year and really took a

1502
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 4: leap forward, got to start three games at the end

1503
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 4: of the year, played a lot of snaps and the

1504
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 4: more he played, the better he played. He would finish

1505
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,799
Speaker 4: the season with two and a half sacks, three force fumbles,

1506
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 4: tied with Miles Garrett for the team league. He would

1507
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 4: have eight tackles for a loss, nine quarterback hits, thirty

1508
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 4: six tackles overall. But when you go in as well

1509
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 4: and take a look here at some of the advanced stats,

1510
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 4: and we'll use Pro Football Focus as this, and I

1511
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,919
Speaker 4: think they did a pretty job. Their top three defensive

1512
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 4: players of the year for the Browns. One was Miles Garrett,

1513
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 4: Number three was Jeremiah Usu Kormoa. You know number two

1514
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 4: was It was Isaiah McGuire. That's right, Isaiah McGuire. He

1515
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 4: would finish the team on the season, third on the

1516
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 4: team in pressures. We talked about the sacks, we talked

1517
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 4: about tied for the lead in forced fumbles, but it

1518
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 4: was his run defense that was so incredible. He really

1519
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 4: set the ad. She did a great job there, showed

1520
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 4: real growth as a pass rusher, but was excellent against

1521
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 4: the run. And Isaiah McGuire is somebody that I think

1522
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 4: right now, you could pencil in and say, you know what,

1523
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 4: that's your starter opposite Miles Garrett, and feel really good

1524
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 4: about it, and you're gonna get Alex right back. You've

1525
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 4: got Obo under contract for another year, so you feel

1526
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 4: pretty good there about your top four. Even with Zadarius

1527
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 4: moving on, it felt like the Browns had five for

1528
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 4: four spots.

1529
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 3: Well, now you've got four.

1530
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 2: Could they address it in the draft.

1531
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 4: Of course, we talked about that. This is a draft

1532
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 4: where you could all you're always looking to add talent,

1533
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 4: and that is a premier position. But I think Isaiah

1534
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 4: Maguire has shown between he and Alex right with the

1535
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 4: flash he showed in his second year that you gave

1536
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 4: those two guys healthy. You've got a nice rotation, You've

1537
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 4: got guys that can play inside, outside versatility. You've got

1538
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 4: everything you want, I think from Jim Schwartz there with

1539
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 4: those four. Now some other names that we need to

1540
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 4: mention because a couple of guys joined this team late

1541
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 4: and actually played pretty darn well, and one of those

1542
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 4: is Cam Thomas. Cameron Thomas, a former third round pick

1543
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 4: of the Arizona Cardinals in twenty twenty two, Browns claimed

1544
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,560
Speaker 4: him off of waivers, spent time with Kansas City. He

1545
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 4: is in the last year, entering the last year of

1546
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 4: his rookie deal. And I'll tell you what you talk about,

1547
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 4: a guy who didn't get a lot of snaps, didn't

1548
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 4: get a lot of time, but made sure that when

1549
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 4: he was on the field, it was impactful. That's Cam Thomas.

1550
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 4: Five games played, he had a sack, eleven tackles, four

1551
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 4: tackles for a loss, quarterback hit. He had one game

1552
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 4: in which he played eight snaps and had a sack,

1553
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 4: a tackle for a loss, a couple of tackles. Who

1554
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 4: was basically every play was on the field, he did

1555
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 4: something good with it. And so Cameron Thomas is a

1556
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 4: guy that certainly can be in the mix for the

1557
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns. He's got four sacks on his career. I'm

1558
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 4: interested in what he showed in the limited time that

1559
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 4: he was with us. Spent some time with Kansas City.

1560
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 4: As I said this earlier this year than the Browns

1561
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 4: claimed him, and he played pretty well for them out

1562
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 4: of San Diego State, a third round pick. As I

1563
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 4: said in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Browns

1564
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 4: also claimed James Houston and James Houston's an interesting one.

1565
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 4: Just some flashes with the Cleveland Browns, but when you

1566
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,839
Speaker 4: look at his career numbers. Had just an outrageous season

1567
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 4: early in his career with the Detroit Lions. And so

1568
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 4: James Houston is a guy that's proven he can be

1569
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 4: productive at the NFL level.

1570
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 3: And what do I mean by that?

1571
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 4: Well, early in his career with Detroit, he had a

1572
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 4: season in which he was able to get to the

1573
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 4: quarterback and an unbelievable clip back. In twenty twenty two,

1574
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 4: his rookie year, in seven games with two starts, he

1575
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 4: had eight sacks, eleven hits, seven tackles for a loss

1576
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 4: of force, fumble and a fumble recovery. Now, since then,

1577
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 4: we haven't seen that. Just two sacks total since then,

1578
01:20:58,240 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 4: both with the Detroit Lions. Now he was with the

1579
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 4: Life for eight games this year, they move on from him.

1580
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 4: The Browns claimed him. He did not produce a stat

1581
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 4: for the Browns in just three appearances. But look, if

1582
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 4: you can rack up eight sacks and seven games, there's

1583
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 4: something to that. Now you'd say, Okay, he's only had

1584
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 4: one sack since then, So he's got nine sacks on

1585
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 4: his career in twenty games, it's not bad, but eight

1586
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 4: and seven games, there's something there. He was a former

1587
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 4: six round pick of the Lions out of Florida, went

1588
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 4: to Jackson State as well, so he was in the

1589
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 4: mix and another guy the Browns can look at. And

1590
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 4: then there is Ellerson Smith, a former fourth round pick

1591
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 4: of the Giants who played a few games with the

1592
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 4: Browns this season. Ended up playing in two games this year.

1593
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 4: He picked up two tackles and that was it. But

1594
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 4: you saw him, you noticed him when he was on

1595
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 4: the field. So some in house options, which is good there,

1596
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 4: but right now going into it, you're talking about this

1597
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 4: is a room unlike the offensive tackle room. The edge

1598
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 4: room is a room where you know who's gonna be here.

1599
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 4: Miles is gonna be here, Alex Wright's gonna be here,

1600
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 4: Isaiah Maguire's gonna be here. Obo's under contract, Cam Thomas,

1601
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 4: James Houston, Ellison Smith. These are guys that the Browns

1602
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 4: all have the ability to retain if they want to.

1603
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 4: So this is a room that should have continuity. Obviously

1604
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 4: you want to drive competition. This is a room where

1605
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 4: you know some moves could be made, there could be

1606
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 4: some surprise cuts, especially if the Brown's draft and edge early,

1607
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 4: so something to keep an eye. But this is a

1608
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 4: room that if you're the Cleveland Browns, you got to

1609
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 4: feel pretty good about where you are right now and

1610
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 4: also where you are going forward into twenty twenty five.

1611
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:29,960
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1627
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1629
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1630
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1631
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1632
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1636
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1637
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1638
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1639
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1640
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1641
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1642
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Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, sorry, Which to the best boys. Scores have

1643
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Speaker 2: to wait night. We got a lot of business to

1644
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 2: get through here. Let's start with a little game we

1645
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 2: like to call over or under again. I'll tell you

1646
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 2: what happened. Uh, we have ourselves and even Stephen Race.

1647
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 3: Oh god, Gibbe, the two.

1648
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 2: Went four and one? Hi, sweetheart, Gibbe went for it?

1649
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 2: What you went two and three?

1650
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 5: Uh?

1651
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 2: The two you loss that?

1652
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 4: He won?

1653
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes over two forty nine point five you went,

1654
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 2: you went over on that. He was at one seventy seven.

1655
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 2: And then the other one you got was Lamar pass attempts.

1656
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 2: Gibbe had the under twenty seven and a half, you

1657
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: had the over. So those two he got them both. Uh,

1658
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 2: he went under with twenty five just missing.

1659
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 4: Mark has to do it. Catch a little tea.

1660
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:59,480
Speaker 3: No, hate to see it, baby, hate to see it overtime.

1661
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 2: So where even Steven?

1662
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 3: I agree.

1663
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something else. What's pretty wild about this?

1664
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 2: So you're both six and six or no, you're both

1665
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 2: six and four. So you both went even throughout the

1666
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: season on the over unders five hundred and now you're

1667
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 2: two games over and again you're tied. You Gibbe two.

1668
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 2: We got two weeks of over unders left right, all right,

1669
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 2: here we go, GiB it. You go first. Saquon Barkley

1670
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 2: longest rush of the game, twenty seven and a half.

1671
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 2: Oh boy, under under for Gibbe.

1672
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 4: I'll go, I'm gonna go under as well. I think

1673
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 4: that is going to be a huge priority. Not that

1674
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 4: it's always easy to stop them, but that is a

1675
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 4: that's a significant run. That's a big run that happened

1676
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 4: every week.

1677
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the g man's sickness is coming into

1678
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 3: because he put these together.

1679
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1680
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 2: This he's the off season committee is the off season.

1681
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 2: He's the playoffs over unders committee. Next he's over, it's under,

1682
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels over under Zigura two d and twenty five

1683
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 2: point five passing.

1684
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 3: Yards over.

1685
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 2: Okay to twenty five twenty five point five.

1686
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 3: He took over. I gotta go. I'm gonna go over

1687
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 3: over two. Conditions are good, all right, weather, it doesn't

1688
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 3: look like it's gonna be.

1689
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 4: Like eight hundred yards against them last night he did.

1690
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a big one. Yeah, next over under,

1691
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 2: give it this one to you, Josh Allen over under

1692
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 2: forty nine and a half rushing yards over over, and

1693
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: the Bills are going to the super Bowl. Let's go, nobody, circles.

1694
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go under on that one.

1695
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be great in short yardage, but

1696
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 4: down a lot of Russian yards.

1697
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 3: It is next over under.

1698
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 2: All right, we're looking for xavier worthy receiving yards. Zagura

1699
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: fifty one and a half. Jesus man, what the it's

1700
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 2: a big number to me. I think that's high. Over

1701
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 2: under committees feels that seems high to me, but I

1702
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 2: don't know.

1703
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 4: That's just one big play to him though. That'll do that.

1704
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 3: True, I'm gonna go.

1705
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 4: I'm going to go under. By the way, the line is,

1706
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 4: it's like magic, It's a million people have just shown up.

1707
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 3: Oh perfectly.

1708
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 4: Literally, what's your flight four o'clock.

1709
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're safe. Yeah, that's easy. You're fine, more than fine.

1710
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1711
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 2: What was h xavier worthy? Receiving yards under under?

1712
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 5: Ok?

1713
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 2: So far just the one difference. And finally next over

1714
01:27:55,800 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 2: under Mahomes and Allen Gibbe combined passing touchdowns combined passing

1715
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 2: touchdowns five and a half.

1716
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:15,799
Speaker 3: Ah under under forgiven, my number is five.

1717
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 4: Touchdowns? Are total touchdowns.

1718
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 2: Combined passing touchdowns five half under?

1719
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 3: Yep?

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01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 4: All right, So now this comes down to whether or

1721
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 4: not Josh Allen's runs for fifty yards or not.

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01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 3: Yes, it does.

1723
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 2: That's what it's come down to in terms of who

1724
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 2: leads cutting into the super Bowl. That's where we are.

1725
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 4: That's outrageous. I might you know what, I might just

1726
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 4: switch mine on that and we'll just take it to

1727
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 4: the super Bowl tide.

1728
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 2: Well, you're in a state of distress, you're in a

1729
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 2: security line, and now you're not. The line is now bigger.

1730
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: You're not even thinking straight.

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01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 4: I'm not thinking straight at all. I don't have my iPad,

1732
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 4: I got nothing. I got no information and no information.

1733
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 4: G man's not thinking straight. I'm going We're gonna even

1734
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 4: it up. We're taking this right to the super Bowl

1735
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 4: this week for just enjoying football, for the purists of

1736
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 4: the game.

1737
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 2: Our pets heads are falling off edition of over unders.

1738
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 2: All right, we got some scores, we got scores, got

1739
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 2: new scores.

1740
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 3: Championship game. Commanders, Eagles Fly, Eagles Fly, three o'clock on Fox.

1741
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 2: The Girl.

1742
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna keep riding them. I'm gonna dance

1743
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 4: with one bug me and that's the Commanders, the Commies,

1744
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 4: give me the comedies winning it outright, going to the

1745
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 4: Super Bowl twenty twenty four.

1746
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 1: I like.

1747
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 2: I like Eagles win close, close game. I think it's

1748
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 2: a great game. Give me the Eagles thirty one to

1749
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 2: twenty eight. So same but different. The over under on

1750
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 2: this is forty seven and a half. What's say you over?

1751
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 2: I think over too.

1752
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 4: I like it more fun.

1753
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 3: The Late Game six thirty Sunday Night, CBS Bills Chiefs

1754
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 3: rivalry renewed Bishop.

1755
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,560
Speaker 2: I just I'm never going against him. I did this

1756
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 2: last year in this game in Buffalo. Yeah, this is

1757
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: the time to get him, didn't I'm never going against

1758
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 2: them again. Chiefs, I think a gross game. I don't

1759
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 2: know it's going to be. I don't think it's gonna

1760
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 2: be thirty eight thirty five. I like Chiefs winning twenty

1761
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 2: one to seventeen.

1762
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 4: Have we ever been in a situation where the defending

1763
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 4: two time champions, the team that also then had the

1764
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 4: best record in the regular season, is somehow an underdog

1765
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 4: in this game and nobody's giving them a chance.

1766
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 2: No, they're favorite, right, Chiefs are favored by point and

1767
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 2: a half.

1768
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, but not like Yeah, the discourse around this game

1769
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 4: is that the Bills are gonna win.

1770
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, there's not a lot of it.

1771
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 4: There's not. The Chiefs are not being afforded, by the way,

1772
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 4: with the line that you just said. They're not even

1773
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 4: favored by three at home, and they're the two time defending.

1774
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 2: Super Bowl cham No, all true.

1775
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 4: Yep, So I think they're being disrespected.

1776
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

1777
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 4: I think they win, I think, and a lot of

1778
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 4: people aren't gonna like it.

1779
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not gonna be the fun outcome.

1780
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,759
Speaker 4: But I think it is going to be the outcome Chiefs.

1781
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 3: I agree with you.

1782
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 4: It's not going to be pretty. It's going to be ugly,

1783
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:05,520
Speaker 4: like a twenty to seventeen.

1784
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 2: That's what I get. Twenty one to seventeen. I see

1785
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 2: it the same way, all right. Fly safe, buddy, Fly eagles,

1786
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 2: Fly fly safe. Thank you, Thank you. The great doctor

1787
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 2: Z joining from the Newark Airport Security Line. Very good.

1788
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 3: Get back in.

1789
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 2: We're back Monday for more fun and for volity. The

1790
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 2: next level is coming up next. Thanks for listed, buddy.

1791
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,200
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01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,960
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