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Speaker 1: Mets Up Podcast listeners, thank you for coming back here

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Speaker 1: episode number nineteen of the podcast. Of course, I'm your

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Speaker 1: co host Draftnick Mark, Mark Luino here with James Shechiano.

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Speaker 1: Jeter had no range talking about the New York Mets,

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Speaker 1: and we kind of have a series to go over

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Speaker 1: here against the Atlanta Braves. We got one game, we

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Speaker 1: got one win. I think we're gonna be calling that

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Speaker 1: a sweep if I'm correct, right.

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Speaker 2: James, Yeah, that was a sweep. We swept the Braves,

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Speaker 2: and Mets swept the Braves.

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Speaker 1: Metswept the Braves with a triple A lineup, which is

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Speaker 1: fantastic to say, because we love to just bury the

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Speaker 1: Braves at any chance we can. But of course, before

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Speaker 1: we do get going into all the minutia and everything

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Speaker 1: that we like to talk about with the New York

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Speaker 1: Mets this past game, make sure you guys are following

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Speaker 1: us on Instagram and Twitter. Mets Up super easy to

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Speaker 1: podcast and if you want to listen to us, which

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Speaker 1: you're probably already are, but hey, let's throw it out there. Spotify,

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Speaker 1: can find us. So, yeah, James, let's just let's just

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Speaker 1: talk about it. We got one game to talk about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it was an eventful one because the New York Mets,

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Speaker 1: I believe, scored a season high thirteen runs and we

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Speaker 1: are now officially in the green for run differential on

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Speaker 1: the season, which is I think that's like the first

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Speaker 1: of the entire season. I love it. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Definitely the first since that Chicago series where we got

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Speaker 2: kind of fucked up. But yeah, that was pure demolition yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It kind of felt like a full sweep because the

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Speaker 2: Mets score thirteen runs, which this season is basically a

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Speaker 2: week's worth of runs. So yeah, we swept the.

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Speaker 1: Braves, swept the braves and it got started off. We

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Speaker 1: got some solid pitching, We did really well there. We

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Speaker 1: he was really good. He's fantastic. He's been great.

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Speaker 2: He gave us way more than the shot. Taiwan came

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Speaker 2: two weeks on the injured list and looked just sharp

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Speaker 2: as all hell. It was one of his best starts

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he went five because they were definitely

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an eighty pitch limit, which I get

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Speaker 2: But he was right back yesterday. Topped out ninety six

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Braves, you know we're coming in hot

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Speaker 1: He is way better than advertised. I'm so excited that

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Speaker 1: Which is something that we've seen strum And do as

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Speaker 2: For sure. Like the Mets within one year have gone

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say mortal, because he's looked mortal.

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00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,000
Speaker 2: He hasn't been like immortal, like at the ground, but

436
00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,480
Speaker 2: the first time he looked bad all year the Seanrie Foley.

437
00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,680
Speaker 2: That was where everyone was accustomed to seeing, possibly Blue

438
00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,440
Speaker 2: Jays fans for the last few years. I think it's

439
00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,480
Speaker 2: important to note that he was basically only throwing fastballs

440
00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,159
Speaker 2: this game eighty six percent. He's been using a lot

441
00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,359
Speaker 2: of sliders and changeups and all of his other appearances,

442
00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,359
Speaker 2: So maybe he just wasn't feeling something. Could be a

443
00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,439
Speaker 2: reason why he had more walks and strikeouts. Guys are

444
00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,600
Speaker 2: getting bad in the ball, but whatever, we're winning by

445
00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,520
Speaker 2: ten runs at the time, doesn't matter at all.

446
00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,040
Speaker 1: I feel like two for him, Like it was just like,

447
00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,040
Speaker 1: let's just get the fastball over. They're gonna hit the

448
00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,520
Speaker 1: ball on the outs. We have a third, you know,

449
00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,120
Speaker 1: ten run lead. Let's just put balls in play here,

450
00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,399
Speaker 1: Let's get through these innings. Let's not try to overcomplicate

451
00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,679
Speaker 1: it by throwing sliders, and all that. It was fine.

452
00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,399
Speaker 1: He was good, and the Mets end up winning romp

453
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,280
Speaker 1: in the Braves, which you'll love to see, demolition sweep,

454
00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,159
Speaker 1: and we got reinforcements on the way. We got people coming,

455
00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,120
Speaker 1: Pete Lugo and Polar coming back tomorrow apparently. I don't

456
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Speaker 1: know if it's official that they're all gonna be back

457
00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,600
Speaker 1: necessarily exactly tomorrow, but you can either expect Monday or

458
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,479
Speaker 1: Tuesday that all three of those guys fingers crossed are

459
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,840
Speaker 1: gonna be back. Let's just start off with Kevin Pilar.

460
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Speaker 1: How how is he going to be back?

461
00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,080
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense.

462
00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,719
Speaker 1: He got that freak of nature he is, he's actually psycho.

463
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,880
Speaker 1: I think he's a little crazy.

464
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Speaker 2: I think tomorrow is two weeks to the day of

465
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Speaker 2: him getting hit in the face.

466
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Speaker 1: Yes, because Taiwan.

467
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was either a Monday or a Tuesday games.

468
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Speaker 2: It was game one of that weekday series with the Braves.

469
00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,280
Speaker 2: It could be Monday Tuesday. I'm not positive. But nevertheless,

470
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Speaker 2: coming back within two weeks from from breaking your entire face,

471
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Speaker 2: that's stupid, silly.

472
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Speaker 1: He's wearing the Rick Rip Hamilton mask apparently two in

473
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Speaker 1: the outfield, not at the plate, which is crazy. I

474
00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,840
Speaker 1: feel like you should wear it at the plate that's

475
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Speaker 1: where he got hit.

476
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Speaker 2: He should he should have more protection in the plate.

477
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Speaker 1: How many times has Kevin Pillar taking a ball off

478
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Speaker 1: the face in the outfield? It seems like it serves

479
00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,680
Speaker 1: no protection there at the plate. He should be wearing one.

480
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Speaker 1: But I'm not a doctor, So.

481
00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,399
Speaker 2: Pallar runs into the wall like once a week anyway. Yeah,

482
00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,000
Speaker 2: he had that brush up with Confola's cleat also a

483
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago.

484
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Speaker 1: Crazy guy's just a warrior.

485
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Speaker 2: And now it kind of makes that text message he

486
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,959
Speaker 2: said to Bryan Snicker two weeks ago seem all the

487
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 2: more real. He really would have played the next day

488
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,439
Speaker 2: if he just could have seen out of his right eye.

489
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Speaker 1: All without a doubt. We get Lugo back, which is

490
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 1: crazy because this bullpen has been so good and we

491
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Speaker 1: didn't even have what was arguably our best reliever coming

492
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,160
Speaker 1: into the season pitch a single inning yet, And I'm

493
00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,359
Speaker 1: pumped because he's a guy who can give us multiple innings.

494
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,159
Speaker 1: Granted he's gonna be shut down the next day, but

495
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Speaker 1: I think that's just kind of where you get the

496
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Speaker 1: most value out of Lugo is those two inning situations,

497
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 1: even just coming in for one and he's got like

498
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Speaker 1: five different pitches, got that nasty curveball that's like a

499
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,399
Speaker 1: whiffle ball. He's sick, he's coming back. This is great.

500
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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I feel like the Mets are going to

501
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 2: kind of model Lugo's usage off of what the Reds

502
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,120
Speaker 2: have done this year with tj Antone, where you're you're

503
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,119
Speaker 2: our non ninth inning closer, the most stressful situation we

504
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 2: have at any point in the game that's not the

505
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 2: ninth inning, whether it's the third or the eighth, Like

506
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna come in and we're gonna have you pitch

507
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 2: until you can't pitch anymore.

508
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 1: Which is almost like Nick Anderson, like what they did

509
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 1: in the playoffs with him last year with the race too.

510
00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 1: There was multiple times against the Yankees he came out

511
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Speaker 1: in the seventh or eighth because it was the media

512
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,160
Speaker 1: of the order. It's like, you're gonna face our best guy.

513
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 1: That's Lugo.

514
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Speaker 2: Game five, he came in I think in the fourth inning.

515
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yankees.

516
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 2: He's just like, whenever we have stress, you're gonna handle it.

517
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Speaker 1: Which I like because he's shown in the past he's

518
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 1: more than capable of doing it, and he can give

519
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 1: those those you know, those added on innings past one.

520
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 1: Because he is a guy who wants to be a starter,

521
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: has been a starter. He's gonna be able to go

522
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 1: a couple inkings out of the pen. That's a huge,

523
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 1: huge piece for us, especially with how lockdown everybody else

524
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Speaker 1: has been. With Mey, Castro, Familia, Daz. We have the seventh, eighth,

525
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Speaker 1: ninth on lock We got three guys that are lockdown.

526
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Speaker 1: We have a fourth if you want to use it,

527
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,879
Speaker 1: and now we have Lugo what the hell, dude.

528
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Speaker 2: And it's even more important because we still don't have

529
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Speaker 2: a fifth starter and doesn't seem like we're going to

530
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Speaker 2: have one in the very near future. So just having

531
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Speaker 2: another guy in that bullpen along with Gazelma and Sean

532
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 2: reed Foley, who can give quantity of innings but at

533
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 2: a quality of those other late inning guys like He's

534
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 2: gonna be able to like marry this entire pitching staff

535
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Speaker 2: together and have us be even better than we've been

536
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 2: so far, which is crazy because we have the best

537
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Speaker 2: pitching staff in Major League Baseball.

538
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Speaker 1: Statistically, I think we're worse than the Padres. Right now,

539
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 1: I think the Padres might be the only one, and

540
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: the Dodgers were better, But after these last few games,

541
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I know the Padres pottery's pitching

542
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: has been.

543
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 2: Nuts, So you were right. The Padres do have a

544
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: lower full team ERA than the Mets, but the Mets

545
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: have the lowest RAY for starting pitchers in the league

546
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 2: at two point seven to eight, better than the Dodgers.

547
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Doddres, the Dodgers, the Padres, the

548
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: White Sox and the Giants as the top.

549
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 1: Five shrunk pitching teams this year.

550
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: Yes, three in one division, which is kind of funny.

551
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 2: But the Mets are the best out of all of

552
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 2: the mess of the best starting pitching in baseball. It's

553
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 2: probably not getting better anytime soon because of Carrasco and Cinderguards.

554
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: I don't know the fact that they're rushed. I guess

555
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 2: we could say that they probably were just rushed a

556
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: little bit. It's going to crush them, but nevertheless, we'll

557
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: see them at some point this year. And we're the

558
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 2: best anyway. And the ground missed two weeks in that

559
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 2: time and.

560
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Speaker 1: We're still the best. And so did Taiwan.

561
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Speaker 2: Walker, Yes, Tymon Walker too.

562
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Speaker 1: We had games where Joey Lukez was we were trying

563
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: to stretch Joey Lukez four innings. It's the fact that

564
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 1: we got through this, like really really rough stretch. We're

565
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 1: still not out of it because we still are missing

566
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: key pieces in Confordo McNeil, Nimo JD. Davis. But the

567
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 1: fact that we're coming out of this, you know, Pete

568
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: de gram Walker, all those guys being injured coming back, Lugo, Pilar,

569
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Speaker 1: the fact that we're in first place by what three

570
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 1: and a half games.

571
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,959
Speaker 2: Either three or three and a half. The Phillies had

572
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 2: an inability to play this weekend against the Rays, which

573
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: the Rays will do that to you. We saw that firsthand.

574
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Speaker 1: The Rays expose bad teams because they just play baseball

575
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: where you have to play perfect to try and beat them.

576
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: Almost everyone's bad compared to the Rays. But I digress.

577
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting to see now the next twenty

578
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: four hours what roster moves we wind up making to

579
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: facilitate all of these guys coming back, specifically for Seth Lugo,

580
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: because we need a forty man spot, which means someone's

581
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: either gonna be dfad or Michael Conford, though, is going

582
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 2: to shift to the sixty day il.

583
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Speaker 1: It's also weird too because we just I think added

584
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 1: Bason Williams and called him up today and it seems

585
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 1: like he might just go right back down.

586
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: No, I want to bring that up. I kind of

587
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 2: feel bad for the kid, because I say, kids's thirty

588
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 2: years old old, five years older than me. But yeah,

589
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: he got he got a lot of shine last night

590
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: because he was gonna join the team for today's game.

591
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: But the Mets are also going to need to clear

592
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: a forty man spot for him, and they've already said

593
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: that he's going to remain on the taxi squad now

594
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: for then come to Arizona being the taxi squad and

595
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 2: then most likely get shuffled right back to Syracuse.

596
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: I legitimately you know who it is. Stephen Tarpley. Steven

597
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: Tarpley gets kicked off the forty man. That's an easy joust.

598
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: But I don't think the Mets want to kick a

599
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 2: picture off the forty man. I think we're probably gonna

600
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: cut mabn.

601
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Speaker 1: You think it's gonna be Maybon, It's either gonna be

602
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: I think the three guys that are like realistic. It's

603
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: either gonna be Mayburn, Maybin Wilfredo Tovar or Steven Tarpley.

604
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: I think those are the three main targets.

605
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Speaker 2: We kind of still need Tovar because I don't think

606
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: they really trust Drewy in a defensive middland field role

607
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: at the at the moment, and they kind of need

608
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: Tovar for that.

609
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Speaker 1: I guess that's true, and they're not.

610
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna cut the picture. I don't

611
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Speaker 2: think I wouldn't mind if they called the picture because

612
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 2: we have plenty of pitching and I think Tommy Hunters

613
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 2: do back soon off the fifteen day IL. But I

614
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: just I don't see them cutting a picture right now.

615
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I could see that. Regardless good problems

616
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: that the Mets are having again, we're back in that

617
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: conversation of good problems. We're getting good players back. Pete's

618
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: coming back, which is gonna be great, even though he

619
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: was struggling, but clearly it was with the hand, like

620
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: we said, confident that he was like, I need to

621
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: play through Tampa because that's my hometown, and then I

622
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: can hit the IL once I'm out of here, which

623
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Speaker 1: is basically what happened. But now we move on to

624
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks, who are playing some of the worst baseball

625
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: in all of Major League Baseball, and that's thanks to

626
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: us starting them off with that sweep. I don't know.

627
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: Let me take a look right now what they have done.

628
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if they've won since we last played them.

629
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Speaker 1: Had they won today? Yeah, they beat the Cardinals, best

630
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: team in baseball. Yeah, they were on a twelve game

631
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: losing streak. They're currently fifteen games back in their own division.

632
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: I thought a thirteen game losing streak.

633
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: Then it was thirteen even worse, making the add fuel

634
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Speaker 1: to the fire. This Diamondbacks team is not good, is

635
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: not a strong team. We really should comfortably steamroll through them.

636
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: Even with the injuries and the lack of, you know,

637
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: talent at some positions, they are just not very good.

638
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: They don't have Zach Gallen. I don't think either pitching

639
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: against US a series. I don't even he's hurt, right,

640
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: he might need to John.

641
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: The al There's no telling why he's going to be back.

642
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he might.

643
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: He might have to get surgery.

644
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: With they're pitching stinks.

645
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well we have some I don't even know

646
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: what the word is. Advantageous matchups the series. We have

647
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: Jacob de Gram going tomorrow and I against Merrill Kelly,

648
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: who Merril Kelly is my dim back to watch the series,

649
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: but we'll get to that later. Then we have David

650
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: Peterson versus Caleb Smith, his return to the rotation.

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Speaker 1: We smack Caleb Smith around.

652
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Speaker 2: The Mets are known for demolishing Caleb Smith. I can't

653
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Speaker 2: wait to get another crack at the rat fuck we're

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Speaker 2: And then on Wednesday Afternoon, Little Little Afternoon Game, Little

655
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Speaker 2: Happy Hour, Game three four, the start Eastern Marcus Stroman

656
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Speaker 2: versus Madison Bumgarner.

657
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Speaker 1: And while Madison Bumgarner owns the Mets, he also is

658
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Speaker 1: just not nearly the picture that he was during that

659
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Speaker 1: time when he owned the Mets. So I will in

660
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Speaker 1: Arizona happily greet Madison Bumgardner with open arms because balls

661
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Speaker 1: fly out of there like it's coorse, it's crazy.

662
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: And Bumgardner has been hot this season last three starts.

663
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Speaker 2: He's come back to earth a little bit. But I

664
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Speaker 2: kind of have a funny anecdote about why Bumgardner's been better.

665
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Speaker 2: So when he went to the Diamondbacks, Diamondbacks are a

666
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Speaker 2: very analytically forward organization, at least pitching wise. I know

667
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Speaker 2: they have a lot of data that Dan Herron works

668
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: for the team as a pitching coordinator. They were kind

669
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Speaker 2: of inundating Madison Bumgarner with data before his starts, giving

670
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Speaker 2: him tons of matchup facts, tons of hot and coals, location,

671
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: all this stuff, YadA, YadA, YadA. That's why Zach Allen

672
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: was looking at his cards so much when we faced

673
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Speaker 2: them last time, and Bumgarner couldn't stand it, and he hated,

674
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Speaker 2: he hated, he hated, hated it. Whatever, and they kept

675
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Speaker 2: doing it. In this year they were like, you know what,

676
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: fuck it whatever. They stopped giving Bumgarner the report. Instead,

677
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: they'll go immediately to his catcher and get his catcher

678
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: the complete wind up, the game plan, everything that he needs.

679
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Speaker 2: He won't tell Madison really anything besides the need to

680
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Speaker 2: know stuff, and he'll just put the glove and Bumgarner

681
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Speaker 2: will hit it, and that's how he's regained a lot

682
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Speaker 2: of his effectiveness. That story comes from Zach Buchanan on

683
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 2: The Athletic Great article from like three weeks ago. Really

684
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Speaker 2: kind of hysterical for all the baseball fans who really

685
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Speaker 2: know and have watched Bumgardner's career and his growth. I

686
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Speaker 2: don't want this data shit. Just put the put a

687
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Speaker 2: finger down, tell me to hit the glove.

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Speaker 1: I will say that while Massion Bumgarner is probably one

689
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Speaker 1: of the best, you know, postseason pitchers of all time

690
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Speaker 1: that we've seen a personal anecdote here from when I

691
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Speaker 1: was at San Francisco Giants spring training. I think I've

692
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Speaker 1: told you this one, but the viewers might not know it,

693
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Speaker 1: and it'll give you a good laugh. So this is

694
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Speaker 1: when they were still tankly like the Bruce Bochie Giants,

695
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Speaker 1: so you can imagine, you know how bad that team was.

696
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Speaker 1: And we're in the locker room or in the clubhouse

697
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Speaker 1: at spring training, and we were waiting for all the

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Speaker 1: players to come in. We had some interviews lined up,

699
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Speaker 1: and Massion Bumgarner walks in and it was a very

700
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Speaker 1: quiet clubhouse. Not a lot of fraternizing in there. There

701
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: was just it was very somber. The TVs were on, though,

702
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: and the TVs, I kid you not, were on one.

703
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: They were on one. You couldn't hear them. There's no

704
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: way in the world that you knew what was being

705
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: said on TV. Mason Bumgarner walks in. First thing he does,

706
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Speaker 1: turns off every single TV in the clubhouse, and then leaves,

707
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: doesn't even change, doesn't do anything, just leaves. The guy

708
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: is I don't want to say miserable, but he takes

709
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: things a little too serious sometimes and I can completely

710
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: see him being like, you're gonna tell me how to

711
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Speaker 1: pitch to this guy, Like, fuck you, I'm not listening

712
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: to that shit. Just another thing to add on to

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Speaker 1: the weird history of me and Bumgarner. What was the

714
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: thing where he was riding bulls or like they got hurt.

715
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Speaker 1: Remember he had a different name than ATV.

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Speaker 2: He also dated the woman named Medison Bumgarner, which is funny.

717
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: Vin Scully also had the story about Madison Bumgarner and

718
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: his wife out in their field they like found a

719
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: snake like cut it open and they found a baby

720
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Speaker 2: rabbit inside. Well madis and his wife and there's a

721
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: two to one pitch to Munseie actually neatched this baby rabbit,

722
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: took it into that home and set it back free

723
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Speaker 2: into the while just a few weeks later. He's just

724
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Speaker 2: He's just a cartoon character. He always has been, and

725
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Speaker 2: it'll be fun to watch him against Roman because the

726
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: two guys who really know how to pitch. That'll be

727
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Speaker 2: a cool game, greaty game.

728
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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, three forty that's a great start

729
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: for us out here. I love that in New York.

730
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Speaker 2: An amazing game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so series though, should take a win. We should.

732
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: We should really be comfortable with these ares of nine backs,

733
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Speaker 1: especially with how well we're playing if the offense stays

734
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: hot like this. Oh yeah, Also, Lindor hit the home run.

735
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about that. That's huge because that was

736
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Speaker 1: the first time that he really drove the ball. He

737
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: drove that, he crushed it. It was an effortless swing

738
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Speaker 1: as a lefty. And I think it's important to note

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Speaker 1: Tom Verducci again give him some props here, did a

740
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Speaker 1: really good job breaking down some of the struggles that

741
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Speaker 1: Lindor has had this year. They brought up a lot

742
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: of swings. He was very off balance, which we've mentioned

743
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: multiple times on this podcast. But he showed, you know,

744
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: being out on his front knee, the back knee touching

745
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: the ground because he saw off balance and what do

746
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, in that game, a lot of balance swings

747
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: and it was successful for him. So that's a good

748
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: thing to keep an eye out for here too. Going

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Speaker 1: into Arizona, it's a great place to go hot into

750
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: because runs get scored there. Especially against this pitching staff,

751
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: we have the chance to do some damage.

752
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: Second most altitude of any stadium in Major League Baseball

753
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Speaker 2: that people forget.

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00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: They've just started using a Humi door too the last

755
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: few years, so they like are very well aware trying

756
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: to combat it, and it's just still not really even working.

757
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: But now we move on here to what I want

758
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: to talk about here, which is just Mets Twitter and

759
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: Twitter in general throwing shade at the Mets. But I've

760
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: seen it specifically amongst Mets fans on Mets Twitter. Guys,

761
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: It's really okay. We can enjoy the Mets being in

762
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: first place. We can have some fun. This team was

763
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: the replacements triple A. I know that you've had your

764
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: entire life of misery watching this team, and that's probably

765
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of your identity is being miserable, because

766
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: we know that there's some guys on Twitter that that

767
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: is their identity. I'm a miserable Mets fan. But this

768
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: team everything went wrong and we came out in first place.

769
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Speaker 1: When has that ever happened? The will ponds are gone.

770
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Speaker 1: Steve cohen Era is here. What's bad turns into good,

771
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: what's good turns into great. It's gonna be okay. The

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Speaker 1: one thing I will not stand for, though, is the

773
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Speaker 1: slander against the National League East. Now. I have always

774
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: been Philadelphia Phillies are a fourth place team. I've said

775
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: it from the start. I did not believe in this roster,

776
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: but everyone else would tell me I was wrong. But

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Speaker 1: now that the Mets are in first, the Phillies are

778
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: a bad team. Because the Mets are in first. The Braves,

779
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: who people had as World Series candidates before the season started,

780
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: oh they stink. They're bad despite not really having any

781
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: massive injuries that are going on or anything like that,

782
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: they're bad now all of a sudden, The Marlins, no

783
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: one cares about them. Nationals definitely stink. But we're being

784
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: told that this division is terrible. The worst in baseball

785
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: is if the National League Central doesn't exist, as if

786
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 1: the American League Central doesn't exist, and honestly, as if

787
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: the American League West doesn't exist. That division stinks. It's horrible.

788
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: The A's being in first place is a joke. That

789
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: team is not very good this year. But I digress.

790
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: Enough of the slander. Mets are in first place. If

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00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: you're a Mets fan, enjoy it. And if you're everybody else,

792
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: fuck you. Get mad. You made fun of us for

793
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: all the years. Now things go wrong and it actually

794
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: goes right for us. I'm gonna rub it in your

795
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: fucking face. Fuck you. Mets are in first three and

796
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: a half games. Fuck you.

797
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: But after being the Dodgers three to one the NLCS

798
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: last year, just last year, people really forget that. I'm

799
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: happy you kind of got that off your system, out

800
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: of your system, off your chest, if you will, Can

801
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: I send the listeners out with a fun fact, something

802
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: that makes me really happy before we say goodbye.

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Speaker 1: Let's end on a positive. Give me something.

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Speaker 2: Our friend Drew Smith, mister Flow, Drew Flow as we

805
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: know him as friends, leads all of baseball in swing

806
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: strike percentage.

807
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

808
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: Yes, tied with mister Josh Hayter at twenty three point

809
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Speaker 2: nine percent, Josh Sick of the Gram and Liam Hendrix.

810
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Speaker 2: That's the top four. Drew Smith is Numero uno going

811
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Speaker 2: into play on Monday. Swing strike percentage. Drew Flow king

812
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: of the bullpen.

813
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: That's disgusting. You just named two of the best closers

814
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: in baseball arguably, and you also named the best pitcher

815
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: in baseball and Jig de Gram also crazy at Jig

816
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: de Gram's in the same category as relievers, which is

817
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: nuts because of course sample size. But man, Drew Flow, man,

818
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: he's pretty good. He's pretty good.

819
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Speaker 2: One game. You didn't think I was gonna get a

820
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: Drew Smith reference this podcast, but I did it.

821
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Speaker 1: I found it, We found it, We got it. Drew

822
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: Flow is our boy. Hopefully he'll be on this podcast

823
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: at some point, you know, off season, off season. We'll

824
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: talk to him. After he has a great year. Everybody's

825
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: hyping him up, We'll talk to him. We'll get him

826
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Speaker 1: on here. But that's a perfect way to end Episode

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Speaker 1: number nineteen of the Mets Up Podcast. A short one,

828
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: but we literally only had one game and still found

829
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: a way to talk for about thirty minutes on it

830
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Speaker 1: because we are just way too obsessed with the Mets.

831
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Speaker 1: But that's why you come here. You come to the

832
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: Mets Up Podcast to listen and talk about the New

833
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: York Mets. Thank you guys so much for listening. You

834
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: know where to check us out. Listen to us on Spotify, Apple,

835
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: Google Podcasts, watch us on on YouTube, follow us on

836
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at mets up, James Sheiano at Jeter

837
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: had No Range Me, Mark Luino, giraffneck Mark Thank you

838
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: guys for listening to episode number nineteen and we'll catch

839
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Speaker 1: you after the Arizona Diamondback series peace out.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: Passsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss