WEBVTT - Child Proofing

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<v Speaker 1>This is Suckers.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kin Bell, I'm Dean Bell, and I'm Jared han An.

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<v Speaker 1>iHeartRadio podcast. What is going on? Everybody? Welcome to an

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<v Speaker 1>all new episode of Suckers. Unfortunately, if you're tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>to hear the most angelic voice that exists on this planet,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna hear it because Kaitlin is not here

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<v Speaker 1>with us today. But you have two other cute, little

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<v Speaker 1>cherubic voices, Jared and myself. How did you describe cute

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<v Speaker 1>little cherubic? I don't know. I was thinking, like, angelic

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<v Speaker 1>cherubs are like the little fat babies from like Roman

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<v Speaker 1>Gothic paintings back in the you know, a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I very you're very smart. Nope, nope, I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 1>I'm misusing it. I don't even think it's a word.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think they probably could talk. So in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the exact opposite of that. I'm just a bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>The one that would correct us is not here today.

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<v Speaker 2>She usually corrects us. Put everything's in you know, she

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<v Speaker 2>puts everything in context for us. She's really the backbone

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<v Speaker 2>of this podcast at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>She truly is. She She's funny, because she doesn't. She'll

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<v Speaker 1>correct us without knowing the answer, and so it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sure about that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean if it's coming from Kalen, though,

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<v Speaker 2>I just assume it's correct.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, Jared? I'm good ready, it's a guy's podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what that means. Oh, we're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of poop stuff today.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously I also cracked open and can I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>make it sound like a beer, but it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A nice that's actually funny. I was gonna maybe drink

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<v Speaker 1>a beer on this podcast, and then I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's ten am. That's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just not too And plus you're you have

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<v Speaker 2>a tea time. You don't want to get too drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you drink on the golf course?

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<v Speaker 1>Like half the time I do, not a lot. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have like two or three beers, four beers, maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>five beers.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it affects your game? Like sometimes I

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<v Speaker 2>get nervous of having a drink because I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>already not good and I don't want to be in

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<v Speaker 2>nimborate and neighbor inebriated to the point where like it's

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<v Speaker 2>affecting my shot. Even if it's only one drink. Like, mentally,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it messes with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me personally, it makes me better, It

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<v Speaker 1>makes me loose, makes me a little less inhibited. I

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<v Speaker 1>can just swing free and go for it. But then

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<v Speaker 1>there is like a sweet spot between like two and

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<v Speaker 1>four beers is the sweet spot. And then if you

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<v Speaker 1>get like drunk, then you get well for me at least,

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<v Speaker 1>then I get really bad and bad ye have to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of avoid that. But like what a couple drinks,

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<v Speaker 1>I think takes the edge off, which is nice. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have a tea time today. I I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Calen has I think what Caylen really does for this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast really well if she puts into perspective how boring

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<v Speaker 1>our conversations are when she's not here. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>football or Tom Cruise or golf, and at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, like I don't really think people care

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<v Speaker 1>enough about it to listen to us talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's interesting when we relate our passions

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<v Speaker 2>back to our relationships, you know, Like so next week, Brady,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously we're gonna talk about Brady for a second. Two

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<v Speaker 2>guys on a podcast, So Brady is the Patriots are

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<v Speaker 2>inducting Tom Brady into the Patriots Hall of Fame. It's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be about five years afterwards or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're obviously just nixing that and inducting him next week

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<v Speaker 2>on June twelfth, of course twelve. So I'm going, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's great. And then Ashley's gonna come with me, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we're going to be there. So I think that

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting when we talk about like the things that

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<v Speaker 2>we love so much and we relate it back to

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<v Speaker 2>our relationships. Because because of my love for Brady, she

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<v Speaker 2>has become in love with Tom Brady as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming it's similar with you. I guess the thing

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<v Speaker 2>you're in love with most is golf.

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<v Speaker 1>Though he hates golf. She hates golf, and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>blame her for that.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's an athlete. She plays tennis. I'm surprised she hasn't, like,

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<v Speaker 2>really tried to get good at golf.

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<v Speaker 1>She she's got a real affinity for getting good at

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<v Speaker 1>the things that she cares about, and if she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>care about it, she doesn't care to good at it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of standard for most people. I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's got a quick learning curve, so she can

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<v Speaker 1>learn something quickly. But golf. The thing that she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like about golf is just that it takes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time. Like, for instance, I'm like, you work out

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<v Speaker 1>every single day and I don't golf every single day,

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, yeah, well, my workouts are an hour

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<v Speaker 1>to an hour and a half and golf is four

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<v Speaker 1>hours to five or six hours, depending on how it goes,

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<v Speaker 1>And so she just gets a little frustrated with the

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<v Speaker 1>timing of it all.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, And there's no way you'd play nine holes,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, nod, disgusting it. So you'd past that point

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<v Speaker 2>because nine holes. See, I think nine holes to me

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<v Speaker 2>is eighteen to you, So you're a nine hole fan,

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<v Speaker 2>not a fan. I'd rather play eighteen, but I'm fine

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<v Speaker 2>playing nine as well. It's too quick, I would agree,

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<v Speaker 2>But if I was going, if I was, if I

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<v Speaker 2>were you and I was trying to get Kaylin into golf,

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<v Speaker 2>I would suck it up and start playing nine holes,

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<v Speaker 2>because then she's done in an hour and forty five

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<v Speaker 2>two hours. Yeah, and it's like she almost wants to

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<v Speaker 2>play more. You're leaving her wanting more dude eighteen for her,

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<v Speaker 2>she's she's gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave by hole twelve and never come back. We went

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<v Speaker 1>golfing a couple of weeks ago. I think we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it in the podcast, but by like the third hole,

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, so we're almost done, right, Like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>there's still and we were only playing nine. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's six more holes. It's about it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a nine hour and a half. I think with

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<v Speaker 1>with your kid, with Dawson, if you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>him into golf, or if you're interested in getting him

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<v Speaker 1>in a golf that's definitely the right. If I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get yeah, right, as you should. That's the approach

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should say, is like play even like

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<v Speaker 1>two holes or three holes and then yeah, and then leave.

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<v Speaker 1>And then once he starts appreciating a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll be like, oh my gosh, I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to go back and play more holes next time kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's getting to the point now. It's this morning

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<v Speaker 2>we were playing catch. I bought him a little baseball

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<v Speaker 2>glove with a foam ball, so he loves throwing that.

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<v Speaker 2>He loves trying to put the glove on. He still

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really get the concept of it because he keeps

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<v Speaker 2>he throws with his right, but then he tries to

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<v Speaker 2>put the glove on the right hand as well, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, bro, no, I know it's weird, but you

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<v Speaker 2>catch with your left and you throw with your right.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's getting more of that concept. Like he sees

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<v Speaker 2>me with the glove on, so he wants the glove

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<v Speaker 2>on and that's awesome. So now it's I'm becoming more

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<v Speaker 2>interactive with him. I guess that's why I dude, it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds terrible. I sound like the worst father in the

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<v Speaker 2>world with what I'm about to say it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that's why I'm dreading the second a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, oh, this case is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a blob for the next three years before I can

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<v Speaker 2>start enjoying his company, which of course is not the case.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, cuddles are great and little bit I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking at pictures of Dawson from a year and

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<v Speaker 2>year and a half ago and you're like, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I do forget how cute they are. And then especially

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<v Speaker 2>the first couple of months. Dude, that baby probably like

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<v Speaker 2>the first five or six months, that thing like two things.

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<v Speaker 1>One, I'm all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Secondly, we still don't have a name, which is why

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<v Speaker 2>I keep legitimately when I keep calling him it or

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<v Speaker 2>just referring to him as him. No idea what the

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<v Speaker 2>name is going to be? Swear still no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And Dawson, you had the name pre planned, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So Dawson. Ashley has always wanted to name her first

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<v Speaker 2>kid Dawson. I said, I liked it for a boy,

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<v Speaker 2>and so when we found out he was a boy,

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<v Speaker 2>it was Dawson. Done deal this one. We have no plan.

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<v Speaker 2>There was there was a name. I don't even want

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<v Speaker 2>to say it, just in case it is the name.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was a name that Ashley, her entire family

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<v Speaker 2>was down with. It's a family name. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't so keen on it. And then recently I've changed

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<v Speaker 2>my tune because I don't have a name that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in love with. So I'm like, I will love our

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<v Speaker 2>son no matter what his name is, and I like

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<v Speaker 2>the name enough, where of course you know we should

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<v Speaker 2>instead of compromising on a name that we're both okay with,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather have her love the name and me like it,

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<v Speaker 2>rather than both of us compromising on a name that

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<v Speaker 2>we're both like, yeah, this is good enough. So then

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, cool, I'm down with this name. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's move forward with it. And then after I did that,

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley started doing a one eighty and she was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm not so sure if I'm sold on that name,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, okay, but you were, and now you're not,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I don't know what the name is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be. Still could be that name. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>that is the leader in the clubhouse. But now I

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<v Speaker 2>feel weird naming our child that if she's not completely sold,

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<v Speaker 2>because I've already made it know that I'm not completely sold.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the name.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't love the name. I thought she loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe she doesn't anymore. So I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 2>name is going to be. And then I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>every name I throw out, she's just like eh.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you need to at least be receptive

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<v Speaker 1>to ideas, right if you're kind of in the place

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<v Speaker 1>where you don't have one fully like locked in names

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<v Speaker 1>are really hard because I mean, obviously, at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of day, they're going to be called that for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of their lives, and you're gonna be calling them

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<v Speaker 1>that for the rest of their lives, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that there is a correlation between your

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<v Speaker 1>name and like the amount of success you can have

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<v Speaker 1>in life at the end of the day. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of these crazy unique names that we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing nowadays. Like I mean, I guess I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know any off the top of my head, but like

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<v Speaker 1>the crazy names, I'm like, you're not really knowing your

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<v Speaker 1>child of that, honestly, is what first came to mind

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<v Speaker 1>is North. But North isn't that bad. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you are kind of putting them in a bind for

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<v Speaker 1>later on, like when they're applying for jobs and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something tells me any of the Kardashian kids won't

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<v Speaker 2>be applying for jobs all that much.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very good point. That's a very good point. Maddie,

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<v Speaker 1>our producer just texted us in the group chat and

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<v Speaker 1>said that some TikToker just named her child Slim Easy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, what do you. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>good for you, maybe it's a family name, who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>but like Slim Easy, Yeah, you're just not really doing

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<v Speaker 1>that kid. Very many favors and I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm a big advocate of just like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of keeping it simple. We were I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Kaylen about this other day too, because I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this many times. I have our kids

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<v Speaker 1>names picked out. Kaylen gets to pick the middle name.

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<v Speaker 1>She came up with, like, if we have a girl, Debbie,

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<v Speaker 1>she wants Debbie's middle name to be like Chloe or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. So Debbie Chloe Bell and it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cute. And I was like, but the two e's

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<v Speaker 1>like Debbie and Chloe, And it wasn't Chloe. It was

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. I can't remember what it was exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like, I just don't know if I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And she said that's the best part. They both end

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<v Speaker 1>in the same sound. I was like, yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. And middle names are obviously way less important

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<v Speaker 1>than a first name. But it's a it's a big

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to call it a burden, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>like definitely a big decision to make, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like who they are, Like Dawson is now Dawson.

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<v Speaker 1>He is just Dawson, right, And I'm and I'm already

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<v Speaker 1>imagining Dawson being an older person, and I can already

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<v Speaker 1>see he's gonna be a freaking rico, suave, like coolest

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<v Speaker 1>kid in school because his name is cool.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, his name is cool and he's cool, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, damn, bro, Like his name is Dawson, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a cool name, and he came out with blonde

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<v Speaker 2>hair and blue eyes, and he loves sports and he

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<v Speaker 2>looks like he's a big kid. And every time he

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<v Speaker 2>goes to the playground, like it just feels like other

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<v Speaker 2>kids are like kind of just go towards him. I'm like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>but is he cool because he's cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is he cool because his name is Dawson and

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<v Speaker 1>being at Dawson has made him cooler.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know what came first, the chicken

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<v Speaker 2>or the egg, you know what I mean? Like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's the question. What if we name our what if

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<v Speaker 2>his name was Steve? Nothing wrong with Steve. I like

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen listeners out there, but like Steve, Steve, Steve the Pirate.

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<v Speaker 1>You should do like a social experiment. Your next kid

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<v Speaker 1>should be named something crazy, like like oh gosh, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't think I'm not very creative.

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<v Speaker 2>Like like Needle, Yes, exactly like that in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're more creative than I am. Do something

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<v Speaker 1>really strange and then just like see how they grew

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<v Speaker 1>up to be different just because their names are different.

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<v Speaker 2>Needle, I don't mind that. You ever seen that episode

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<v Speaker 2>of SEINFELERW where Gorge wants to name his kid seven?

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<v Speaker 1>Love it? I love it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, great one? And then the other people end up

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<v Speaker 2>stealing it because they're like, we like the name seven,

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, what about Soda? Like SODA's a terrible name.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, everybody loves soda. Anyway, we don't talk about Seifelt.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so that's the conundrum right now. Don't really

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<v Speaker 2>have a name for the second kid, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I guess we'll figure it out. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what name they did?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that?

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<v Speaker 2>I liked as well, But it can't be that name

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<v Speaker 2>because of my last name.

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<v Speaker 1>Hayden, Hayden hat, Hayden Haven. I like actually a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>I really do like that a lot. You like Hayden Haben. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do that. We liked Hayden because we were

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<v Speaker 2>thinking of Anakin, Anakin Skywalker like that. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to name our kid Anakin and then we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Hayden Christiansen. I like the name Hayden, and then Asher,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Asher was like Hayden Haben. That can't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, that's not happening.

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<v Speaker 1>You could name him like his middle name Adam. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like ha h a.

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<v Speaker 2>H ha ha or how do you spell huh?

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<v Speaker 1>Like huh is that huh? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So we just need a middle name to start with you. Yeah, yeah, Hayden, Ungler, Haven, Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>How many you names are out there? Not a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. Are you gonna wait until the baby

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<v Speaker 1>is born then and then make a decision there?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean I'm assuming that we're going to go

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<v Speaker 2>into the hospital with the game plan, but we are

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<v Speaker 2>on the for a golf reference, I feel like we're

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<v Speaker 2>on the seventeenth hole right now. Time is running.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, you know, we're on the seventeenth hole right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's a par four and I'm hitting five

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But your score going in going into now, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even on the green bro three under seven over thirteen over.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dude, if I finish it under one hundred, I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about you specifically. I'm talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>situation with the baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly what I'm referring to. If we make

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<v Speaker 2>it for the eighteenth hole under one hundred with this kid,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be all right, I'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice. Anytime you break double digits, that's a good day.

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<v Speaker 1>Anytime you're on the golf course, and in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>anytime you're having a baby, still a great day.

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<v Speaker 2>Still a great day. I was thinking about that because

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking yesterday. One of Ashley's friends was that,

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<v Speaker 2>like everything in terms of trauma or emotion, like you

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<v Speaker 2>can always just go back to your childhood and like

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<v Speaker 2>the relationships that you had with your parents, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, man, being a parent, I think that we

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<v Speaker 2>put it's gonna make me sound like a horrible person,

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<v Speaker 2>way too much emphasis on.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the.

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<v Speaker 2>This gonna sound so weird the child parents relationship. But

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<v Speaker 2>like my point being is that I feel like everybody

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<v Speaker 2>blames like your childhood trauma quote unquote, Like there are

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<v Speaker 2>people who are like, oh my my mom was too

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<v Speaker 2>smothering and too she loved me too much, she never

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<v Speaker 2>let me explore things. But then you know, my dad

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<v Speaker 2>didn't love me enough and he didn't show me enough.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, okay, like it did you know, did

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<v Speaker 2>you have a good childhood? Did you grow up with love?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just also the time that we live in,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're not living in wartime. Knock on wood. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on overseas is tragic, but in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, no one's getting drafted. Because I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to a guy. I was talking to a guy

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<v Speaker 2>about this, just about parenting. His name is Bobby, comes

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<v Speaker 2>in all the time and he's this sweetest man. He's

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<v Speaker 2>in his eighties, and he got drafted, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember. Had to be Vietnam because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think there was a draft during the Korean War. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember. But dude, I just think, like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, let's just all calm down. You know, life

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<v Speaker 2>is a gift. We're all doing our best. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Dawson so much I spend I want to

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<v Speaker 2>spend as much time with him as possible and show

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<v Speaker 2>them the way. I just think it's like people act

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<v Speaker 2>as if you know, relationships in life are you know,

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<v Speaker 2>down to a science so to speak, where it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is exactly how you should be a parent, This

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<v Speaker 2>is exactly how you should love your kids, This is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly how much time you should spend with your kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and so on and so forth. And it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>complicated and convoluted and stressful because there's so many people

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<v Speaker 2>that are so quickly to judge you whether you're too

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<v Speaker 2>loving or not loving enough, or you smother them too much,

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<v Speaker 2>or you don't show them enough attention, or you know

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<v Speaker 2>they're on their the phone too much, or they're not

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<v Speaker 2>reading enough or I don't know, like you're playing with

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<v Speaker 2>them outside but then they fall and they're like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why why did you Why were.

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<v Speaker 1>You playing outside with them?

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<v Speaker 2>You shouldn't have been doing that, or like dude, Ashley

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<v Speaker 2>and her mom, this is like three weeks ago. They

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<v Speaker 2>were at the beach with Dawson. It was a hot day,

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<v Speaker 2>but like they had the umbrella up and obviously Dawson

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to be under he was running around. They

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<v Speaker 2>lathered them up with santane. Loosh, it wasn't that hot.

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<v Speaker 2>It was probably in eighties, you know, the kids almost three.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was someone who like went up to Ashley.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like I'm just concerned. I think your kid's boiling.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, dude, get out of my face. He's

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<v Speaker 2>covered in suntan lotion from head to toe. He's in

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<v Speaker 2>shade half the time. We're going into the water, Like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>do a kid. But that's what I mean, like these

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<v Speaker 2>freaking people anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I do agree with kind of what you were

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<v Speaker 1>saying earlier. I feel like a lot of people use

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<v Speaker 1>their upbringing as a crutch to act poorly, like if

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<v Speaker 1>I have, and I'm guilty of this too. Like let's

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<v Speaker 1>say there's a certain characteristic of yourself that people maybe

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<v Speaker 1>don't love or that you don't even like about yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people nowadays are like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>just because like you were saying, like my dad left

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<v Speaker 1>me at a young age, and some things are obviously

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<v Speaker 1>more important than others.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, of course there are very traumatic things. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to tell you about it, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like an oversmothering mother, Like my mother loved me too

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<v Speaker 1>much when I was a kid, so now I have

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<v Speaker 1>trust issues or something like that. I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>people will do that quite often, and I'm guilty of

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<v Speaker 1>it too. I kind of do this thing where I

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<v Speaker 1>like to make people uncomfortable. So if someone says something,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, oh, yeah, well my mom died when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, so that's why I did that

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and everyone is always I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like doesn't really know how to react. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a funny anecdotal thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a tough one, A tough one to react

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<v Speaker 2>to that. Yeah, I don't know if I would say

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<v Speaker 2>that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's especially interesting too because with today, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>we're so much more informed than we were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even thirty when we were kids, when we were twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, thirty years ago, whatever it is, especially even

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<v Speaker 1>before that, and so it's like in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>good it helps a lot, like with diagnosises of like

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<v Speaker 1>ADHD and autism, all those things that maybe we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have so much back then. But at the same time too,

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<v Speaker 1>we might be like nearing crux with it where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like we have we're over informed, or like we're overstimulated

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of these ideas, and so it like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just needs to like the beach with you.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, a kid just needs to be a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>right and so maybe you stop like helicoptering other people's

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<v Speaker 1>kids because they're kids. At the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just funny because when Ashley came I wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to work.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I got home she told me story and

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, Jared, you would have flipped because this

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<v Speaker 2>woman came up and was like, ah, I just I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel she said to the along the lines of like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel comfortable. I think you know your kid

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<v Speaker 2>is just boiling right now, and they were like, he's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>He's one hundred percent fine, And of course there are

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<v Speaker 2>situations anyway. Point is, we're not a therapist. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting how I try not to let people's opinion bug me,

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<v Speaker 2>and it really doesn't, but it sounds like it does

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<v Speaker 2>because when I'm on the podcast, I don't. I just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like ramble and let things go that are

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<v Speaker 2>on my mind. And that is on my mind in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of parenting, because it does. There are times where

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like, you know, I'm never doing a

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<v Speaker 2>good enough job because it just feels like there's always

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<v Speaker 2>more to be done, and I'm hardly the only person

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<v Speaker 2>going through it as a parent. I'm sure that There

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of people who go through that feeling

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<v Speaker 2>where they just feel as if it's inadequate. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, am I am I raising you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>person that I want to raise? Am I not doing enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I doing too much? Should I, you know, let

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<v Speaker 2>them go off a little bit more? Should I show

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<v Speaker 2>them more love?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just an imperfect science. And like it's tough too,

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<v Speaker 2>because then when you hear like your friends or other

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<v Speaker 2>adults who don't have kids. I think that's another big thing,

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<v Speaker 2>the people that don't have kids who are like you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I just and who are incredible people, you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>great lives and great jobs and doing well from themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you know, they talk about relationships or feelings

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<v Speaker 2>or things like that, and they're always like, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>know when I was a kid, and I'm like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>your parents were probably you know, I know your parents.

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<v Speaker 2>You have great parents, they're the best, like my I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I'm just sounded like an idiot. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just vent you're not your missus therapy to me. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think part of that too, is like you're

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<v Speaker 1>just a first time parent. Right now, and so like,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you're going to feel like you're maybe not doing everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but you are at the end of the day, you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing everything that you can be doing. But because it's

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<v Speaker 1>your first time as a parent, it's like you you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what you're doing because you've never done it before, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's like you're going through it trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do the best job you possibly can. Be a guarant

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing a fantastic job, but it just feels like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're not because you have no familiarity with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then when when little Hayden Nungler is born,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll be like, oh, I remember this space when

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<v Speaker 1>Dawson was in this and he was doing that and

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<v Speaker 1>I did this. Maybe at this time, I'll do it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit differently because I've done it before and

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<v Speaker 1>I know how to react now, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when little Huh is born, Yeah, it's an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>time because right now, I mean our main focus is

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<v Speaker 2>just to make him happy. I mean we're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>teach him life lessons and teaching him how to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he can't read yet, but he he recognizes words, he

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<v Speaker 2>can count a little bit. I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 2>has any idea what the numbers mean, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>he does because sometimes he'll be pointing at things at

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<v Speaker 2>a book in big one two. Now he's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>all over the place, but I think he's attempted to count.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he repeats everything that we say, which is cool.

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<v Speaker 2>He said he said good night dead that last night,

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<v Speaker 2>like clear as day. He's like, good night dad that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hell, yeah, bro, So, I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>was clear's day he said it. So that was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>How long does a kid sleep in a crib for?

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<v Speaker 2>So we are slowly adjusting him to his Batman bed. Nice,

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<v Speaker 2>he has a Batman bed. It's awesome, like a like

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<v Speaker 2>a batmobile shaped bed. Yes, so, and then it's for

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<v Speaker 2>a twin mattress. And then the twin mattress goes in there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty cool. It's from the nineteen eighty nine Batman too,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's Michael Keyan's Batman Mobile, which is the best one.

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<v Speaker 2>But so we're slowly you know, he'll take naps in there.

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't slept there overnight, but so I guess like

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<v Speaker 2>pretty soon within the next six months, you know, before

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<v Speaker 2>he turns three. I think we want him in that

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<v Speaker 2>bed full time. The only scary part is is like

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<v Speaker 2>the crib he can't get out of, but the bed

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<v Speaker 2>he can get out of, So he has to be

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<v Speaker 2>in a like I don't know. He can open doors too,

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<v Speaker 2>so do we, like, I don't know. That's the scary

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<v Speaker 2>part is that like he'll be able to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of the bed and open the door. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's scary. But he's I guess, like before three,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know. He's starting. He's getting potty trained

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<v Speaker 2>right now, somewhat like we try to show him where

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<v Speaker 2>the toilet is.

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying.

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<v Speaker 2>He's telling us now he's like poopy and he says potty.

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<v Speaker 2>He says poop potty. So now he like he knows that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh I have to poop, I have to go on

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<v Speaker 2>the potty. He still his pants, but at least he's

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<v Speaker 2>telling us that he needs to go on the potty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a step in the right direction. Baby sets here,

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<v Speaker 1>I just pulled up a picture of a Batman bed

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<v Speaker 1>that I found an Amazon, and if it's this, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very very jealous of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I it's remember when I left to cre My sister

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<v Speaker 1>and I shared a room up until I was probably

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<v Speaker 1>like twelve or something like that. And when I left

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<v Speaker 1>a crib for the first time, I had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of rolling issues, and so I would roll out of

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<v Speaker 1>the bed all the time. So I'd get one of

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<v Speaker 1>those like the barrier walls that you could like attach

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<v Speaker 1>onto it, so I would get into bed, and then

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<v Speaker 1>my mom would come in and like put the barrier

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<v Speaker 1>wall up so that way it was basically like a

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<v Speaker 1>makeshift crib. That way, if I roll over, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>fall out of the bed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not worried about him falling out of

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<v Speaker 2>the bed because this thing is kind of the way

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<v Speaker 2>it's put together, like it would stop him from rolling.

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<v Speaker 2>But he can legit just get out of it and

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<v Speaker 2>open the door and his his his room is upstairs.

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<v Speaker 2>Our room is downstairs. That's the biggest concern. Even though

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<v Speaker 2>we have gates at this we have gates at the stairwell.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know he just gets so smart every single

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<v Speaker 2>day that, like, one day, I'm nervous that we're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna if he is sleeping in the bed by himself,

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna be able to get out of the bed,

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<v Speaker 2>open the door, and then somehow open the gate, even

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<v Speaker 2>though he has to like push back down on a button,

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<v Speaker 2>slide it and then the gate opens. So it's child

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<v Speaker 2>proof in that aspect, but it's I don't know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>just fucking he's smart.

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<v Speaker 1>One night you might just like hear tumbling coming from

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<v Speaker 1>upstairs and might not do.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be bad, bad, bad. I fell down the

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<v Speaker 2>stairs once, TI, when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids are tough, man, and obviously you felt if you

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<v Speaker 1>fell down the stairs, you survived.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, but I cracked my head wide open,

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<v Speaker 2>so I had to get stitches.

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<v Speaker 1>But I survived. You survived, and obviously you're doing what

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<v Speaker 1>you can to avoid it. If it happens, it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another thing with being a kid. It's like we

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<v Speaker 1>we as adults now and as our parents probably understood

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<v Speaker 1>when we were kids, like if I fell down the stairs,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd probably almost be dead, right right, But like if

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<v Speaker 1>you're four years old and you fall down this flight

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<v Speaker 1>of stairs. Yeah, you might crack your head open, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's not probably any long term lasting effects whereas nowadays.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why is that? Like I feel like I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>as fragile. I feel like I was way more fragile

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<v Speaker 2>as a child than I am now clumsy. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like the way our bones are constructed.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably more clumsy growing a lot, so you're not

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<v Speaker 1>really like used to your the dimensions of your body

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. And there's yeah, there's these things on the

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<v Speaker 1>ends of our I'm going to get this really wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's these things on the ends of our DNA

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<v Speaker 1>strands called telomeres, And once you hit a certain age

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<v Speaker 1>probably your career, around thirty, your telomere start deteriorating. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what the aging process is like. Up

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<v Speaker 1>until you're thirty, you're getting smarter and better looking and

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<v Speaker 1>stronger every single day, but then you hit this age

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<v Speaker 1>where your telomeres start degrading, and then you start getting

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<v Speaker 1>a little slower, a little more fragile, a little less strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that kind of stuff could be wrong, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm pretty sure is what I remember hearing at

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<v Speaker 1>one point in my life. So I do think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of like age reversal things where they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like focus on the telomeres and be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we can convince these things that we still are

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years old, and if you hurt yourself or break

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<v Speaker 1>a bone, you're going to recover like you did when

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<v Speaker 1>you were twenty or when you were you know, ten

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<v Speaker 1>or twelve or something like that. But like if you

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<v Speaker 1>go through your childhood without a mer injury, but like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you fell and cracked your head open. I

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<v Speaker 1>broke a bunch of bones, Like, if you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>that in your childhood, I feel like you didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a full enough childhood.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, every time Dawson like, so, he was at my

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<v Speaker 2>parents house. I had softball this past week. I worked

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<v Speaker 2>when softball, and then Ashley flew out on Sunday. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't fly out to Tuesday. But point is he was

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<v Speaker 2>at my parents' house and then of course he just

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<v Speaker 2>like was running around the house, fell hit the back

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<v Speaker 2>of his head and started crying. And my parents, my mom,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you would have thought that he died from

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<v Speaker 2>her reaction because she just was so sad. I'm like, mom,

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<v Speaker 2>he's fine. He just bumped his head. He's good, Like

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<v Speaker 2>he just that's what he does. He just runs around

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<v Speaker 2>and bumps his head. And I don't want him to

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<v Speaker 2>get hurt. But there's also times where I do want

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 2>him to get hurt because I want him to learn

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<v Speaker 2>those lessons because he is so aggressive and rambunctious, like

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 2>he's very much a boy where it's like he's running around,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just gonna trip one day and fall down and cry.

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<v Speaker 2>But then he'll learn to like slow down and not

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<v Speaker 2>run his hard, or like if he bumped into a desk,

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<v Speaker 2>like now he knows, okay, I can't run into a

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<v Speaker 2>desk now. Granted, I don't want him to seriously hurt himself,

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>but like a little like a little bump to be like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh okay, well don't do that again. That's fine, you know,

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what are you gonna do. He's gonna get hurt.

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>We all got hurt. That's like the process of life

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>right there, you know, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I was a kid, I used to

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<v Speaker 1>think about it kind of occasionally because my brothers. One

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<v Speaker 1>brother like chopped a toe off, one burnt himself like

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>fell into a fire, dropped a toe off. Yeah, there's

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>some weird injuries. My brother like fell into a fire

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<v Speaker 1>when he was a kid. My sister like split her

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<v Speaker 1>head wide open when similar to use split her head

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<v Speaker 1>wide open. I had a couple injuries when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid. It's like it's just like a rite of passage.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have some sort of event. How did

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<v Speaker 1>you How did your brother lose the toe? I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was really young. He's probably around Dawson's age, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit older, probably probably like five actually, just

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a few years older. I think he was like

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<v Speaker 1>getting into a van that's like one of the sliding

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>van doors, and my mom wasn't paying attention. Oh my god,

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the door shut and it chopped one of his toes off.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy shit. But that's kind of the point. They so

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<v Speaker 1>it back on and it's got a normal toe. Now,

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>like it wasn't an injury. Well, so the toe is fine,

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. You would you could look at his speed

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>and you would never guess that he had it toe

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>chopped off. But you know, you do that at thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three or thirty four, and it's like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to live the rest of my life

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<v Speaker 1>without a toe now, I guess I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about the longevity of life because life

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<v Speaker 2>is so short and it does fly by, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just is going by faster and faster.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Ashley posted yesterday it was nine years to the

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<v Speaker 2>day when we first met, like walked down the stairs

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<v Speaker 2>in Paradise, and so I was like, Jesus, nine years ago,

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>that's such a long time. And then I think about

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 2>stories like that, like your brother such an impactful story.

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 2>He literally lost a toe and got it sewn back on,

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<v Speaker 2>and it probably like is it doesn't it's not even

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<v Speaker 2>like involved in his life. Does that make sense? Like

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many things that have happened in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't even feel like it's my life, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It just feels like it was something different because it

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<v Speaker 2>was so long ago. You know, it's like that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>that almost feels like it wasn't me because it's just

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 2>things are so different. I'm different, My world is different,

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 2>and so like I see whether it be like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I'm interested to see luckily hopefully hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>not luckily because it has a happy to that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty forty years from now, because I look at like

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<v Speaker 2>my parents' age and I'm like, that's crazy to think

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 2>that they were my age at one point with kids,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they were going through the exact same thing I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going through right now, and their life is so different

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<v Speaker 2>now than it was when they were my age. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if they look back and they're like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that just doesn't even feel like me, you know, because

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>it was thirty years ago and such, and we lived

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 2>in a different place, and you know, we were friends

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 2>with different people, and we worked at different places, and

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 2>like you were a kid and now you're an adult,

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's just like, I don't know. Sometimes I think

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<v Speaker 2>about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I put that whenever I'm having a bad day or

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>something bad happens to me. I kind of come with

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<v Speaker 1>that perspective as well. I'm like, there are so many

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<v Speaker 1>bad things that have happened to me in the past

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>where I thought it was going to be like a

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>life changing moment, and sure, maybe it did change some things,

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>but like at the end of the day, I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>with where I'm at, and it's like it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>an afterthought, right, Like you think this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be this big impactful moment and then thirty years later,

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't even realize that that was you, that it

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 1>happened to. It's like it just feels like like you're

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>saying a different person. And so whenever I'm having a

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>bad day or something bad happens, I'm always like, in

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>five years, I probably won't even remember this moment, for

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<v Speaker 1>like in the slightest bit. So I don't know, it's interesting.

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that's part of the fun with having kids, though.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you get to pass all your experiences and

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom down to them and hope that they make better

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 1>choices than you, which they typically do. I'm sure your

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>dad would say that about you, And I think any

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>good parent would hope that their kid is more successful

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and better in every face than they are. So I

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's interesting.

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just want Dawson, I know, I just want

0:32:53.760 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Dawson to Yeah, I just I think the most important

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>thing for me with Dawson growing up, and then of

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 2>course the second one is gonna be I think just

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be there for him, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the most important thing. For Like, when I

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 2>look at my dad, my relationship with my dad, there's

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things that I wish, well not wish

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 2>were different, but like we just have a certain dynamic

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 2>that I want a different dynamic with Dawson, but like

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 2>the most.

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<v Speaker 1>But my dad is the best dad ever.

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 2>But my point being, God, i feel like I'm just

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 2>like not being able to articulate any of my thoughts.

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 2>But my point being is that the greatest gift that

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I've ever been given in my life. And I don't

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 2>even mean like physically, I just mean like emotionally or

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>is that just I know, like my parents, my dad

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 2>will always be there, you know, And so I feel

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 2>very lucky to that to know that like I could

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>call him and then no matter what it is, He'll

0:33:57.920 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 2>be there.

0:33:58.760 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>And so that's what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Want with Dawson, for him to know, like, dude, you

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<v Speaker 2>just call me and I'll be there no matter what.

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>And that's I, you know, I think the most important

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.919
<v Speaker 2>thing to me. So I'm hoping I'm there for him.

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I got a good feeling you will be. But that

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>is going to do it for today's episode. Sorry for

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>the listeners that you know, like I said earlier, Kielan's

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>not here with us to keep us on track. But

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we did a good job. Now we

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>did a good job. I think I think we did

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 1>all right.

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:26.479
<v Speaker 2>It's like just like it was only like a little

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:27.399
<v Speaker 2>golf in Brady Talk.

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when do you leave for the Tom Brady Thing?

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<v Speaker 2>So I have to go back to Rhode Island this

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 2>weekend for trivia and we have events going on, and

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>then next Wednesday is the Brady Thing to June twelfth,

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:44.720
<v Speaker 2>TV twelve.

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll do this on on Thursday or something instead. Here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good, good call. So next Wednesday I might not

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 2>be available. I guess you can't go to the Tom

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Brady Thing. Man, you got a podcast to record.

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, gotta do the podcast today. Six years man, I'd

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 1>like to I'd like to do this the day after,

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>but I guess you're probably gonna be traveling, but I'd

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>like to hear about it. I guess we could always

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>do the week after traveling. Oh well, then in that case,

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>let's do it Thursday. That sounds good to me. But

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:12.879
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna do it for this week's episode. I am

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>so grateful to have you in my life, Jared. I

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>am so lucky. I'm grateful to have this podcast and

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you as listeners. Thank you so much for listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this week's episode of Suckers, be sure to tune in

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<v Speaker 1>next week, where maybe we suck just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>less