WEBVTT - Visiting Europe's biggest tech show

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<v Speaker 1>Top tech from IFA twenty twenty three in Berlin, Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>Apple and Google announced dates for their next big events.

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<v Speaker 1>The day the government will blast you with an emergency

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<v Speaker 1>text message, plus your tech questions answered. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Rich dmiro and this is rich on Tech, the

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<v Speaker 1>show where I talk about the tech stuff I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should know about. It's also the place where I

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<v Speaker 1>answer your questions about technology. I believe that tech should

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting, useful and fun. Phone lines are now open

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<v Speaker 1>at triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a call if you have a question about technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Email is also open. Just go to my website rich

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<v Speaker 1>Guests this week on the show Oliver Merlin, Managing director

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<v Speaker 1>of EFA Management, and Mark Vina, principal analyst at Smart

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<v Speaker 1>Tech Research. They will join me to talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing here and where am I? Berlin, Germany. That's

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<v Speaker 1>right coming to you live from Berlin site of IFA

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three. This is Europe's version of CES. So

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<v Speaker 1>hear me talk about CS in Las Vegas. Every year

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<v Speaker 1>Europe does their own show called EFA and it is

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<v Speaker 1>a big, big show. Believe me, my legs are tired

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<v Speaker 1>from walking it. More than two thousand exhibitors from forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight countries, twenty six halls, So when you go to

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<v Speaker 1>CS it's a couple of big giant halls. In Las

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas used to be three basically three giant halls plus

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff scattered throughout the city. This is twenty six halls,

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<v Speaker 1>different levels in each hall, and they're kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>little little kind of rooms and you just make your

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<v Speaker 1>way through all this one hundred and thirty thousand square

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<v Speaker 1>meters of stuff to see. It is kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a tech festival. There is food, there is drink. And

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<v Speaker 1>the big difference between this show and the show in

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas is that visitors are welcome. The public is

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<v Speaker 1>invited to buy a ticket to this show, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like going to the largest best buy you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen. With one hundred and eighty thousand people over

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<v Speaker 1>five days, it's pretty pretty wild. They also have a

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<v Speaker 1>summer garden in the middle of it all. Excuse my

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<v Speaker 1>boord German. I haven't learned too many words since I've

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<v Speaker 1>been here. It's been a fun trip, it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>fun event. And I love doing stuff like this because

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<v Speaker 1>it really gives you so much perspective on the different

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<v Speaker 1>companies and the different brands, not just in the US

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<v Speaker 1>but around the world. Now. Whenever I do a trip

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<v Speaker 1>like this, I always get lots of thoughts on international travel,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the questions I get are about

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<v Speaker 1>international travel because it's something that many people do maybe

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<v Speaker 1>once twice a year, and I have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>do it a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually been a lot more recently when COVID was happening,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like everything stopped, you know, even domestic travel.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did get to try for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>on my way out here, my new California digital driver's license.

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<v Speaker 1>So a couple of states, just a handful of states,

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<v Speaker 1>have been testing digital driver's licenses, and I downloaded the

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<v Speaker 1>what is it called, It's like the DMV my wallet app,

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<v Speaker 1>and you download that, you scan your driver's license, you

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<v Speaker 1>scan your face, and then somehow State of California verifies

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<v Speaker 1>you are who you say you are, and they give

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<v Speaker 1>you a digital copy of your driver's license on your phone. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>before you get too excited. California, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>they're not doing this, but they are not part of

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<v Speaker 1>Apple's wallet, so many of the other states that have

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<v Speaker 1>done this. You can get this inside your Apple wallet

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<v Speaker 1>or eventually your Google wallet, which makes it very easy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like using your tap to pay cards,

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<v Speaker 1>like your debit or credit card, but this is a

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<v Speaker 1>separate app. So I went to TSA and I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>went up to the guy and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do you mind if I use this digital driver's license.

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<v Speaker 1>Expecting a little bit of grief, he said, no, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me fire up the machine because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious how it works. I've never used it before. And

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<v Speaker 1>so he turned on the machine and they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you open up your app. It's called the California DMV app.

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<v Speaker 1>It generates a QR code. So I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of ways to verify. I think one of them

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<v Speaker 1>is tap. One of them is a QR code. We

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<v Speaker 1>use the QR code, so you scan the code with

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<v Speaker 1>this little machine and then you look at a camera

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<v Speaker 1>and then I guess it somehow matches those things up.

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<v Speaker 1>But the main thing to know if you ever try

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<v Speaker 1>to do this, and I'm sure you probably never will

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<v Speaker 1>maybe eventually in a couple of years. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>scan the QR code, you get a little pop up

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone that says, hey, do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>hand over your personal information? But the problem is you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the camera and the TSA person is also

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<v Speaker 1>looking at their screen waiting for you to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first time I did this, it timed out,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was like, really, you know, of course

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<v Speaker 1>I'm holding up the line and I'm starting to like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, is this not going to work? And so

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<v Speaker 1>he said, well, let's try it again. We tried it again,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw the little pop up the second time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, okay, I have to agree to hand

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<v Speaker 1>over my information to you. So we did it twice,

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<v Speaker 1>but it worked very well the second time, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to say it's kind of cool, although you really

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<v Speaker 1>can't use it anywhere. The only two places I know

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<v Speaker 1>of that you can use it right now are San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco Airport and LAX and of course a smattering of

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<v Speaker 1>other airports across the nation. But it's not a very

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<v Speaker 1>good system just yet. But I don't know if you've noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>if you traveled. Lately, they're not even asking you to

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<v Speaker 1>scan your boarding pass anymore. When you go to an airport,

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<v Speaker 1>they just basically take your ID. They scan your ID

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<v Speaker 1>somehow that matches up with the flight records, and they

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<v Speaker 1>send you on your merry way. So that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what else you travel. You really have to

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<v Speaker 1>have a tech plan figured out in advance, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you mess up on even one of these things, if

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<v Speaker 1>you trip, it's gonna cost you. So Number one E

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<v Speaker 1>SIM I talked about this. This is an electronic SIM card.

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<v Speaker 1>Buy those before you leave. Now in the old days,

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<v Speaker 1>you would buy a SIM when you got your destination,

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<v Speaker 1>usually in the airport, and you would pop this little

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<v Speaker 1>card into your phone. So Number one your cell phone provider,

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<v Speaker 1>and many times, if you have T Mobile, your phone's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna work and it's gonna be included in your plan. Overseas,

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<v Speaker 1>Verizon in AT and T typically charge about ten dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a day to use your phone in a foreign country.

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<v Speaker 1>That can add up very quickly, and you can purchase

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<v Speaker 1>a prepaid eSIM for a lot cheaper than that now

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<v Speaker 1>on your plan. Also, you may have banks of days

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<v Speaker 1>that you get included if you've been a customer for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, they might accrue over time, so be

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<v Speaker 1>sure to check before you leave and before you buy anything.

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<v Speaker 1>If AT and T or Verizon has some like free

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<v Speaker 1>days included in your plan. For me, as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>I landed, it said hey, you have like sixteen days left,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, oh wow, that's pretty cool. So for

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<v Speaker 1>my primary phone, I just left it on that and

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<v Speaker 1>for my other phone, I use the eSIM. The other thing,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a travel plug adapter. There are two types. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a voltage adapter and there's just a regular adapter. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're just traveling with standard electronics like your iPhone charger

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff, you just need a travel plug adapter.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like twenty five dollars. You have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>portable battery bank, that's for sure, and a USB cable

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<v Speaker 1>for the plane. Now keep in mind on the plane,

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<v Speaker 1>many of the planes are still using the old style USB,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like the big adapter at the end. Many

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<v Speaker 1>of us are using at home USB C because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the phones have been coming with. So just keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind if you're going to charge on the plane,

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<v Speaker 1>you either need a USBC adapter or you need to

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<v Speaker 1>bring an old school cable, So take one of your

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<v Speaker 1>older cables that charges your phone. That's what I did,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I use that. That was great. Same thing

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<v Speaker 1>for earbuds. If you want to use the seatback entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>and use your own Bluetooth earbuds, you're gonna need an

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<v Speaker 1>adapter because most of the seatback entertainment systems do not

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<v Speaker 1>allow you to connect via Bluetooth. It's still wired. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the new planes, especially on United and some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other carriers, are getting Bluetooth, but it's very

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<v Speaker 1>hit or miss. So if you want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you want to use your own stuff, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>an adapter like this thing called the Airfly from a

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<v Speaker 1>company named twelve South. The person sitting next to me

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<v Speaker 1>was using it, and it's about fifty dollars. You plug

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<v Speaker 1>it into the little USB and it becomes a Bluetooth

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<v Speaker 1>receiver for your earbuds. I guess a receiver and a transmitter,

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<v Speaker 1>so it goes back and forth. So it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a mid middleman between the seatback entertainment and your earbuds. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you something that's a little interesting about me.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not watch movies on the seatback. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's a weird thing, and I feel like I've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing it for so long where I refuse to do

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<v Speaker 1>it that I still don't do it even if I

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<v Speaker 1>see a movie I want to see there, I said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm favoring my own entertainment. And for this trip, I

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<v Speaker 1>took the Pixel Fold from Google. I've been testing this out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a foldable phone, and I wanted to see

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<v Speaker 1>what it was like to use a foldable phone to

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<v Speaker 1>watch a movie. So I watched the new Adam Sandler

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<v Speaker 1>movie on Netflix, which I thought was pretty funny, although

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<v Speaker 1>when I texted with a couple of family members on

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<v Speaker 1>our group chat, they disagreed with me. I still think

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny. But I watched this on the fold, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. So I love the size of this phone,

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<v Speaker 1>and the outer screen is very usable compared to what

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung has, which is very narrow. But the Pixel Fold

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<v Speaker 1>is heavy. It gets hot, and it's very slippery because

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a smooth, slick phone. But if you put

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<v Speaker 1>a case on it, it's too big. So it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of these things where people are trying to push the

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<v Speaker 1>carriers and the companies are trying to push foldable phones.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure they're there just yet. And there's another

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I'm using the inside screen may a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times a day, whereas if you're getting a foldable phone,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably want to use that inside screen a lot. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>It is good for a lot of things like watching videos,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at photos, checking your email, but I'm just not

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<v Speaker 1>opening it enough. And by the way, in just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks i've had this sample unit from Google,

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<v Speaker 1>I already got something caught in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>screens because it kind of pushed in in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a little tiny looks like a little piece

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<v Speaker 1>of sand gotten there or something and just made an indentation.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course that's not very fun. It looks very

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<v Speaker 1>annoying when I look at the screen. Now, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got plenty more to talk about on my trip here.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got plenty of guests lined up for the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk about Apple and Google. They have

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<v Speaker 1>both announced the dates when they are going to launch

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<v Speaker 1>their next phones, and I'm seeing a lot of pixel

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<v Speaker 1>phones over here in Europe, of course, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>iPhones as well. But first it is your turn give

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<v Speaker 1>me a phone call at Triple A rich one oh one.

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<v Speaker 1>It is eight eight eight seven four to two for

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<v Speaker 1>one zero one. Give me a call if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a question about technology. Even though I am so far

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<v Speaker 1>away today, it will still be a free call for

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<v Speaker 1>you anywhere you are in the US. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>rich Dumuro and you are listening to Rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you talking technology at triple eight rich one

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<v Speaker 1>oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two

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<v Speaker 1>four one zero one, broadcasting live from Berlin, Germany today.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't let that dissuade you from calling in. John

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<v Speaker 1>from a Brainerd, Minnesota is online one. John, You're on.

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<v Speaker 2>With rich.

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<v Speaker 3>Information.

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<v Speaker 4>The situation I got going on is I listened to

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<v Speaker 4>podcasts in some music on my Android phone on occasion,

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<v Speaker 4>and I have two yearbuds, separate ones, and a set

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<v Speaker 4>of Bowen and duck headset after Shock brand name whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And the problem I'm having is I'll be listening to

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<v Speaker 4>it and all of a sudden it'll shut off, it'll

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<v Speaker 4>turn back on, it'll shut off, turn back on, random time,

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<v Speaker 4>random length of time. And I've been buy my phone

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<v Speaker 4>at the bottom of the phone. If I see it,

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<v Speaker 4>it'll say Google Assistant is here to assist you.

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<v Speaker 1>Please turn on.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I believe that it's something similar to Siri, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to listen to me.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's beyond the point. But it keeps coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of the more annoying things is if I

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<v Speaker 4>haven't shut off, I'll be walking around my workshop here

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<v Speaker 4>working all of a sudden I'll hear on ear piece

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<v Speaker 4>it says calling last number dials, and it does it,

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes just clicks it on for a second, or

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes it stays on for a while. And I've gotten

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<v Speaker 4>a point now where I call my landlines so I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not calling somebody accidentally, or it's not calling somebody accidentally

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<v Speaker 4>to know them. But I've never subscribed to it. I've

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<v Speaker 4>gone on my settings. It's not turned on, but it

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<v Speaker 4>it keeps coming up, and only when I have these

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<v Speaker 4>the Aftershock headset on.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, a couple of things here. Number one, I

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<v Speaker 1>just was talking with the Aftershock folks yesterday. They were

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<v Speaker 1>here at at EPHA, so they were showing off some

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<v Speaker 1>new new headsets. These are These are kind of uh

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them are aimed for like swimming and

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<v Speaker 1>underwater and any sort of like they're very like durable

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<v Speaker 1>in wet conditions. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I like them because like where I'm in a machining

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<v Speaker 4>welding shop, self employed. And what I like about them

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<v Speaker 4>is I can put in earplugs and actually the celling

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<v Speaker 4>gets better through the through the bone induction system, and uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I can still do about my work and

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<v Speaker 4>be able to listen good in the.

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<v Speaker 5>Song quality I think is decent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they're known, they're known to be good. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what I think A couple of things that

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<v Speaker 1>I think need to be done. Number one, have you

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<v Speaker 1>downloaded the aftershocks app? Do they have a specific app

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<v Speaker 1>that you can download to maybe update the firmware and

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<v Speaker 1>also change any settings on these devices because built in

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<v Speaker 1>by default it looks like these want to activate the

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<v Speaker 1>Google Assistant. Okay, I have not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not too savvy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I would go on the app. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>on You're on Android? You said? So I would go

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<v Speaker 1>on the Android Google Play and I would download. I

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<v Speaker 1>would go to you know, search for the after shocks app,

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<v Speaker 1>so look for that and then when you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>that may unlock all of the settings for these headphones,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where you can go in and turn off

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<v Speaker 1>the Google Assistant trigger. Now, I will tell you it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny you say this because I literally have been testing

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<v Speaker 1>these Sony headphones and I was using them on my

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<v Speaker 1>way here, and every time you push the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the headphone, like if they're falling out of your ear

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, which I don't like about these headphones.

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<v Speaker 1>But every time I would push it, the Google Assistant

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<v Speaker 1>would trigger, and so it would of course stop your music,

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<v Speaker 1>interrupt things. You'd have to make sure you remain quiet

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<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't get a false command. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>went in, I downloaded the Sony app and I went

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<v Speaker 1>in and disabled it from there. It took me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit to figure out how to do it, but

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<v Speaker 1>that is one way.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The other way you can do it is usually in

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<v Speaker 1>Google Assistant. There is a setting, so if you tap in,

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<v Speaker 1>if you open up the Google app and tap settings

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<v Speaker 1>and then you look for Google Assistant, there is usually

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<v Speaker 1>a setting that says over headphones or over Bluetooth, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can disable it there as well. So those are

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<v Speaker 1>the main things that I would do. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>these headphones. I don't think there's anything wrong with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it is an errant command of Google

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that you want to activate it. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>look on their website, it says there's a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>ways to activate. Obviously, it's hands free if you say

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<v Speaker 1>the hot word, which is you know, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to say, because I don't want to activate everyone's headphones,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's usually it's something about Google. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the other way is kind of pressing and holding

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<v Speaker 1>a button on the side, or maybe pressing it twice.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the steps that I would take to

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<v Speaker 1>try to disable this from happening. But there are there

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<v Speaker 1>are multiple ways that Google may trigger and usually if

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<v Speaker 1>you download the native headphones app, that should really give

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<v Speaker 1>you the most control over these headphones. Because headphones typically

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<v Speaker 1>don't have Google Assistant built in, it's usually a special thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and so because of that, they usually have the special

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<v Speaker 1>software that will allow you to disable that and also

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<v Speaker 1>tweak it, because not everyone wants that, as we all know.

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<v Speaker 1>Good question. Thanks so much for calling today from Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate the call.

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<v Speaker 7>John.

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<v Speaker 1>More of your calls coming up next at Triple eight

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here in Berlin, Germany, and I'll tell you I've

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<v Speaker 1>been testing Apple Maps versus Google Maps, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give the slight edge to Google Maps for public transportation.

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<v Speaker 1>But i will say that if you're walking, Apple Maps

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<v Speaker 1>is better with the turn by turn transit or turn

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<v Speaker 1>by turn walking directions if you have an Apple Watch.

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<v Speaker 1>But before you go to any other city, any any

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<v Speaker 1>travel city, download Maps offline. That's a pro tip right there,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't need a cellular connection. More rich on

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<v Speaker 1>Tech coming up next. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big week if you like phones and gadgets,

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<v Speaker 1>because both Google and Apple announced separate events. Google's holding

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<v Speaker 1>their event on October fourth. There they will announce the

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<v Speaker 1>Pixel eight and the Pixel watch too. Well expected to announce.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't say what they're going to announce, but Google

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<v Speaker 1>kind of. That'll happen in New York City. They called

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<v Speaker 1>the Made by Google Event. It'll be ten am Eastern time.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll live stream it. Google invited me. I typically go

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<v Speaker 1>to these things they get that usually you get a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of hands on before the general public, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like a week or so before the phones go on sales,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's always nice. And then Apple announced they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>their event on September twelfth, and they're gonna announce the iPhone. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course they don't say what they're gonna announce, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's the iPhone, the Apple Watch, and maybe some other goodies.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me now is Mark German from Bloomberg Technology reporter,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mark, welcome to Welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>Back to the show for having thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, so you are the expert in all things Apple.

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<v Speaker 1>You are known for your proven track record of basically

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<v Speaker 1>telling people in your weekly columns at Bloomberg and your

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<v Speaker 1>newsletter what Apple is going to announce before they announce it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not going to ask you how you do

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<v Speaker 1>it because that's probably a proprietary secret. But you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great and what can we expect from this event.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So for Apple September twelfth Wonderlust launch, there's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be three main areas, the phone, the iPhone fifteen,

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<v Speaker 6>the Apple Watch, as well as the AirPod. So you

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<v Speaker 6>will see the iPhone fifteen and fifteen Plus, as well

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<v Speaker 6>as fifteen Pro and Pro Macs. We'll see in Apple

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<v Speaker 6>Watch Series nine, we'll see a second generation Apple Watch Ultra,

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<v Speaker 6>and we'll also see new AirPods Pro with a USBC connector.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the new charging port that they're bringing to all

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<v Speaker 6>of the iPhones.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's start with the iPhones because that's typically

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<v Speaker 1>what people are most excited about. So iPhone fifteen and

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone fifteen Pro, and then there's two versions of each

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<v Speaker 1>of those. What is going to be different about the

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<v Speaker 1>phones this year?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So for the base phones that's the fifteen and

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<v Speaker 6>fifteen plus, they're going to look the same almost as

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<v Speaker 6>the fourteen in fourteen plus with a few variations. So

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<v Speaker 6>the back is not going to be glossy anymore. It's

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<v Speaker 6>going to be a map back like the pro phones.

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<v Speaker 6>And then they're also going to get some of the

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<v Speaker 6>pro features from last year. Three main ones, the A

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<v Speaker 6>sixteen chip from the fourteen Pro, the dynamic Island, and

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<v Speaker 6>the new back camera system of that forty eight nigapixel camera,

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<v Speaker 6>So basically last year's enhancements at a lower price. And

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<v Speaker 6>then the high end phones, the Pro and Pro max

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<v Speaker 6>is where they're actually going to make the new changes,

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<v Speaker 6>the new stuff. It's going to have a titanium frame

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<v Speaker 6>that makes the phone quite a bit lighter. They'll have

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<v Speaker 6>a three nanimeter chip which is quite a bit more

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<v Speaker 6>efficient for better battery life. You're going to have a

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<v Speaker 6>new screen technology called LPO, which is a new manufacturing

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<v Speaker 6>process that allows them to make the borders around the

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<v Speaker 6>display much thinner, and you're going to get that overall

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<v Speaker 6>new design thinks of that titanium frame. So it's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be quite an impressive upgrade, probably the biggest upgrade

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<v Speaker 6>in a few years. And so I think a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of people have been holding out and waiting for this phone.

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<v Speaker 6>So it should be a bit of a major cycle

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<v Speaker 6>for Apple.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it comes to the base phones, the iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and the iPhone fifteen plus, these are the phones

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<v Speaker 1>that presumably most people buy, most people are interested in

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<v Speaker 1>because they are the I mean, they're not inexpensive, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're the least expensive of the new lineup. So they

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<v Speaker 1>get last year's chip, they get dynamic island, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that little pill shaped area in the top of the phone,

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<v Speaker 1>and they also get the better camera. So it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like last year's phone, but in a new kind of body.

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<v Speaker 6>It's essentially last year's phone in a less premium body

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<v Speaker 6>because it's an aluminum frame versus the steel frame of

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<v Speaker 6>last year the titanium frame of the pros this year.

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<v Speaker 6>So it is probably a pretty good value. My sense

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<v Speaker 6>actually though, is that from the get go, in terms

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<v Speaker 6>of purchases, in the first few months or so, most

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<v Speaker 6>of those purchases actually lean towards the pro phones. Believe

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<v Speaker 6>it or not, right, even though the thing is a

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<v Speaker 6>bit high. Yeah, I mean it's people look at the

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<v Speaker 6>price differences. It's about two hundred dollars three hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 6>delta between the low end phones and the high end phones.

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<v Speaker 6>And then most of their sales now are on monthly

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<v Speaker 6>plans or some sort of subsidy, and so you're talking

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<v Speaker 6>about five to fifteen dollars difference per month, and so

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of people push up to the higher end phones. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 6>But if you look at over time, these lower end phones,

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<v Speaker 6>as those prices come down, but for instance, the fifteen

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<v Speaker 6>to fifteen plus I think are going to be extraordinarily

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<v Speaker 6>popular in like a year or two from now, right

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<v Speaker 6>as those prices come down to the four hundred and

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<v Speaker 6>five hundred dollars range.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right now. One thing I'm curious about is the

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<v Speaker 1>refresh rate on the standard phones. Has that caught up

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<v Speaker 1>to the premium the pros No, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Believe they're about two years away from moving to the

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred and twenty hertz. On the lower end phones,

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<v Speaker 6>they're still going to be. I believe it's a sixty

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<v Speaker 6>or ninety hertz refresh rate. And it's so interesting because

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<v Speaker 6>nobody knew that they wanted one hundred and twenty hertz

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<v Speaker 6>refresh rate until they had it on the propones and

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<v Speaker 6>on the iPad pro right right now, it's so impressive

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<v Speaker 6>on the propones, and it's if you compare it side

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<v Speaker 6>by side, it is such a big difference that you

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<v Speaker 6>wouldn't know until you look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's the thing. If you're using an iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a standard one that doesn't have the higher

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<v Speaker 1>refresh rate, you would never really know. And my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>so every time I basically use my wife's phone, I

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<v Speaker 1>notice it and I'm like, wow, this almost feels like

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<v Speaker 1>it's slower than my phone because it just doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>that smooth refresh rate.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you're not refresh rates right, But the performance

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<v Speaker 6>is pretty good overall, but like when you just look

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<v Speaker 6>at it, it just looks so much different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one hundred percent. Okay, So now what about the

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<v Speaker 1>USB C switchover? Is that going to happen with the phones?

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<v Speaker 6>So the USBC change will happen across all four phones

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<v Speaker 6>in the air pods, and obviously this is because of

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<v Speaker 6>the European Union. The benefits to consumers now is you

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<v Speaker 6>can have one charging cable that will work on your map,

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<v Speaker 6>your iPad, and your iPhone and your ex generation AirPods.

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<v Speaker 6>You no longer you need to jump, you know, between

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<v Speaker 6>lightning and USBC and all that. So this is going

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<v Speaker 6>to be quite an improvement for consumers, but also a

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<v Speaker 6>headache for those who are now going to need to

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<v Speaker 6>buy new charging bricks and new accessories.

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<v Speaker 2>And the like.

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<v Speaker 1>Now people always joke, and I'm sure the mets will

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<v Speaker 1>come out that Apple continues to change the charging port

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<v Speaker 1>on the bottom. I remember when it happened from the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty pin connector to lightning. People are complaining, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a while since that happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, It's been eleven years since the last charging change.

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<v Speaker 6>There was in twenty sixteen, the headphone jack removal. I

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<v Speaker 6>have to tell you, I don't think this is a

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<v Speaker 6>change that Apple wanted to make. I don't think this

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<v Speaker 6>is something that they would have chosen to do on

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<v Speaker 6>their own. I think there's a lot of drawbacks for

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<v Speaker 6>them from moving to USBC on the iPhone. This is

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<v Speaker 6>something that they're doing pretty much, almost exclusively to appease

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<v Speaker 6>the European Commission. It is a law there, and then

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<v Speaker 6>you're seeing more and more places try to bring this

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<v Speaker 6>into law, believe it or not. I actually read the

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<v Speaker 6>other day, actually yesterday, that California, just the state of California,

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<v Speaker 6>they're bringing a bill to action next year related to USBC.

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<v Speaker 6>And so this is something that was going to continue.

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<v Speaker 6>It was going to be a drum beat, it was

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<v Speaker 6>going to be something that would snowball and have a

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<v Speaker 6>domino effect, and all sorts of countries were going to

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<v Speaker 6>push it this. I believe even India was talking about

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<v Speaker 6>USBC as well as a bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it does eventually make things easier, obviously less proprietary.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the zoom on these phones are they going

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<v Speaker 1>to get Is the zoom going to get any better?

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<v Speaker 6>The zoom is the same on the first three phones.

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<v Speaker 6>The top end phone, you're moving from a three X

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<v Speaker 6>lens to a six NX optical zoom. And why that's

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<v Speaker 6>so important is because if you do a digital zoom

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<v Speaker 6>right now, you can see how the quality quickly degrades,

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<v Speaker 6>but by using an optical hardware zoom, the quality actually

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<v Speaker 6>does not significantly when you zoom in up to the

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<v Speaker 6>six X and then you actually get an expanded digital

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<v Speaker 6>zoom as well. I believe it's a twenty or thirty X,

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<v Speaker 6>so quite impressive and better competition to the cameras on

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<v Speaker 6>the Google devices that you mentioned, which they have pretty

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<v Speaker 6>good cameras, and they have for years. Apple's doing a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit of catch up.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, Okay, speaking of ketchup, you know, we're seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>big push with these foldable phones from Samsung, Google. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the Chinese companies are doing a lot of foldables,

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<v Speaker 1>and Motorola even has one, and of course one plus.

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<v Speaker 1>So are we going to see a foldable from Apple.

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<v Speaker 6>I think we'll see some sort of foldable device from Apple.

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<v Speaker 6>In which form that takes, I think it's still a

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<v Speaker 6>little unclear. It could be an iPad, it could be

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<v Speaker 6>a type of a Mac. It could be a type

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<v Speaker 6>of an iPhone, but I don't see anything foldable from

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<v Speaker 6>Apple in the next twenty four months.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, if you're into Apple stuff and you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what Apple's going to do before the company

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<v Speaker 1>even announces it. Mark German is your guy, chief correspondent

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<v Speaker 1>at Bloomberg. What's the best way for folks to follow you, Mark?

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<v Speaker 6>No, thank you rich for having me. I truly appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 6>Twitter dot com or x dot com slash Mark German.

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<v Speaker 6>You can get updates most quickly there, but also subscribe

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<v Speaker 6>to my weekly column on Sundays. It's Bloomberg dot com slash. However,

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<v Speaker 6>on to sign up.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thanks so much for joining me today, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. There you have it, all of the

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>rumors and the speculation on the iPhone, but it usually

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:16.360
<v Speaker 1>comes true. Mark knows his stuff. So if you're considering

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<v Speaker 1>the upgrade, you know it's probably going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>year to upgrade because of the entire USB c changeover.

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>If you're like me, and especially when you travel, I

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 1>literally have to think about, Oh I need that lightning

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>cable because it's the one thing I need everything else,

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<v Speaker 1>even the iPads have gone over to USBC in recent years,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll be looking forward to that. That event again

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>happens on September twelfth, and again I'm expected to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of things going on in the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. All right, let's take some more of

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<v Speaker 1>your calls at Triple eight rich one oh one. That's

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four to two, four to one

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<v Speaker 1>zero one. You're listening to rich on Tech live from Berlin, Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, you didn't. Oh man, I think we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>all German artists on this week's show. So funny story

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<v Speaker 1>this is This is Milli Vanilla, right, yeah, so blame

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<v Speaker 1>it on the rain. I'll never forget we were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is such a long funny story anyway, I'll save

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<v Speaker 1>you the drama of it. But my friend and I,

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<v Speaker 1>when we were in like middle school, we were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do like a talent show with this song and our teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>We were so embarrassed to tell our teacher and then

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<v Speaker 1>so we were gonna lip sync the song. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we later found out that the whole thing was lip sync.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was like this like meta kind of situation. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you talking technology from Berlin, Germany. What a

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<v Speaker 1>great city, really really interesting, lots of history. Obviously, people

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<v Speaker 1>here like to be out in the streets. They like

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<v Speaker 1>to I've seen a lot of families, a lot of kids,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of tourists, just a lot going on here

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<v Speaker 1>and it's interesting. I took my walk the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>my audio tour, which I really like to do when

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<v Speaker 1>I go to these cities, and there was nobody out,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean nobody. It was a weekday, and then today

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<v Speaker 1>I was out and it's a weekend and there was

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<v Speaker 1>just so many people in the same places where there

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<v Speaker 1>was almost no one the time before. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to do these audio walking tours, which

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<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend self guided, use your phone. The app

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<v Speaker 1>that I use is called voicemap dot Me, so voicemap me,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just a really easy way you download the app.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like listening to a podcast, but it

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<v Speaker 1>gives you step by step, turn by turn directions and

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<v Speaker 1>if you get off court like I have it sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it just says, hey, you know, look at the map

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<v Speaker 1>and get back on course. You can leave your phone

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<v Speaker 1>in your pocket pretty much the whole time you do this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very very cool VOICEMAP dot em and they have

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<v Speaker 1>them for cities around the world. I've taken them in

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<v Speaker 1>and here, let's see where it was at Austin, and

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<v Speaker 1>I did one more somewhere else. All right, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to alex Innuay. Tell me if I'm saying this right,

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<v Speaker 1>Nuevo California. I know you tried call them before. We

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<v Speaker 1>had some trouble connecting. You're on with Rich line three.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, Rich, I'm having problems with an SD card I

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<v Speaker 8>bothered about two and a half years ago. It was

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<v Speaker 8>working fine, and last weekend it quit. I've turned off

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<v Speaker 8>the phone, pulled the stem car SD card out, put

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<v Speaker 8>it back in, tried to reformat it. It gets up

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<v Speaker 8>to about twenty five percent, and then it says my

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<v Speaker 8>phone is not compatible with their SD card.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you trying to reformat it?

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<v Speaker 5>When it's a little icon comes up says format SD

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<v Speaker 5>card to use.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So I'm saying, when you plug it into your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>are you formatting it?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Have you tried formatting it using a computer?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have an adapter.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, so it sounds like this card has failed,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is just my preliminary thoughts. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't really tell unless you try to format this

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<v Speaker 1>in another device. So, for example, we have a special

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<v Speaker 1>microphone we use where you have to use an SD

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<v Speaker 1>card in it a thirty two gig maximum, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when we put those cards in this MIC, it just

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<v Speaker 1>goes nuts and it can't recognize it, and it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just the screen flashes. And there is an option

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<v Speaker 1>to format the card on that MIC, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>always work. But if you take that same exact SD

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<v Speaker 1>card and format it in a computer, somehow it figures

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<v Speaker 1>it out and it formats it properly, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>works in the MIC. So that would be what I'd

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<v Speaker 1>recommend to do. Why did you lose anything on this card?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you worried about the data on this card?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, apparently all the games I downloaded went to the card,

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<v Speaker 5>so I lost all the games, my photos and stuff

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<v Speaker 5>I backed up to a computer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, very good, and all the rest of those stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just it's annoying. Yeah, I agree, and a half

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<v Speaker 5>two years and then all of a sudden, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 5>this there. Stupid things it's not recognizing the SD card.

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<v Speaker 5>Please format I try that. It gets up to about

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<v Speaker 5>twenty five and quits.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is very frustrata. And I will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that I've used many many SD cards in my time

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<v Speaker 1>and I have yet to see one fail. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I find it hard to believe that this has failed.

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<v Speaker 1>But it could happen. Is this a micro SD card.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming it's a small one, like it's the size

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<v Speaker 1>of like a SIM card almost.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's probably a core in the size of a

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<v Speaker 5>posty stamp. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, look at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>and what's the size on this card? How big is it?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's uh thirty thirty or thirty two?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and what brand is it?

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<v Speaker 5>I picked it up at Walmart, like I said, a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, I would say, maybe bring it back to Walmart,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's been past the ninety days. Do

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<v Speaker 1>they have they may have a extended return policy. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but.

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<v Speaker 5>What I don't think so years.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're straight up with them and just

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<v Speaker 1>say hey, look i've had this, you know, if you

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.800
<v Speaker 1>go to Costco, they'll take it back. So maybe Walmart

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>will do the same. I was actually trying to figure

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>out what their return policy was. I looked it up

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. I think it's ninety standard. But look,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, I think if you're

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not concerned with what's on this card, a

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<v Speaker 1>new SD card, a thirty two gig is about ten bucks.

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>You can get a two pack of them for twelve

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>dollars on Amazon. So I understand it's frustrating. I understand

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 1>that it's not ideal, but it could just be that

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 1>this failed. It happens, especially if it maybe is an

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<v Speaker 1>off brand. If I recommended getting an adapter, I probably

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't recommend that because the adapter is going to cost

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>you more than the price of this card. So my

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<v Speaker 1>advice is to see if you have a friend that

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>has an adapter and a card reader and try doing

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 1>the formatting there on a computer, whether it's a or

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>a PC. That might work. You can also try a

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>disc repair on the same computer because that may work

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>as well. But otherwise I would say, if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>too attached, I'm glad you backed up your photos, and

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're not too attached to this thing, I would

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>just call it a complete loss and move on because

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the cost of getting that adapter is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more than just buying a new card. And

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully this does not happen again. I rarely, rarely see

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<v Speaker 1>these things fry like that. So thanks for the call,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Let's see what do we want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about real quick before we go to break here, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Google raising prices of nest Aware and nest

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Aware Plus. These are the subscriptions if you have nest products.

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<v Speaker 1>The basic nest Aware is now going to cost eight

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>dollars a month, up from six bucks a month. That's

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 1>eighty dollars a year or sixty dollars a year. The

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>nest Aware Plus is going to be fifteen a month,

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<v Speaker 1>up from twelve dollars a month. The new price takes

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<v Speaker 1>effect on November sixth, and uh new subscribers right now. Yep,

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>every streaming service is going up in price. Give me

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>a call triple eight, Rich one oh one. This is

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. Welcome to

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the show. Our number two. I just got word from

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 1>producer Bobo that Rob Thomas is indeed German, which I

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't believe, but I looked it up and sure enough,

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>he was born in Germany. Where's my bell? I always

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>say that triple eight rich one O one is the

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>phone line to call eight eight eight seven four to

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. There we go, We've got

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>some boisterous applause. So this week, Verizon has come up

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.800
<v Speaker 1>with a new way to protect you from spammy email

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<v Speaker 1>to texts. It's very, very simple. Have you ever gotten

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 1>one of these things? It basically looks like a text

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>message that comes from an email address and it's just annoying.

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Their Verizon says eighty percent of them are spam and

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just an easy way for people to spam because

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 1>all it takes is for them to set up an

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 1>email and so these most of the time are for

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>like shipping confirmations, all this stuff. It's just total junk.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to block these now and your

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>this is only for Verizon customers, you text the word

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<v Speaker 1>off off to forty forty. Again, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>stop these annoying spam email to text messages, just text

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<v Speaker 1>the word off to forty forty. If you're a Verizon customer,

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and that will disable email to text messages to your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you might be saying, Rich, why would I do that,

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to get my texts. Eighty percent of

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.839
<v Speaker 1>those are bogus. So there may be an example of

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 1>a legitimate company that uses this or legitimate use of that,

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 1>but most of the time it's not. And you can

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>always turn it back on. I believe you just text

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<v Speaker 1>on to forty forty and it'll turn them back on.

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 1>But you can look it up online and see what

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 1>they say about it. I'll put the link on the website.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich on tech dot TV keep the show notes for

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<v Speaker 1>the show so you can see what Verizon says about

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<v Speaker 1>all of that. But a lot of people doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Let's go to Reggie Line too in Charleston,

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:31.800
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. Reggie, you're on with Rich. And it's interesting

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 1>that you say you're in Charleston, because I've fallen in

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>love with European cities and I looked up today no joke,

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>best US cities that feel like Europe, and Charleston was

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>like on the top list. Welcome to the show.

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 10>It it's a gorgeous city, a little bit flood ridden

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 10>right now, but gorgeous, just the same. Oh no, your

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 10>producer asked me if I had called them before, and

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 10>I'll remember you helped me with the photo enhancing program.

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 10>I'm a pet porch artist.

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, I remember, yes.

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<v Speaker 10>And you did help me with that. But I had

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 10>a bigger problem this week. I went onto my Facebook

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 10>page where I do do marketing and use marketplace and

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 10>all my customers contact me there, and it asked for

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 10>a new password. I've done that before, put it in

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 10>a word.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did I ask you for a new one?

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 10>I don't know. Maybe I just forgot it. I don't remember.

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 10>But it asked me to put in my password, which

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 10>I had no idea why it did that, and I

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<v Speaker 10>may have forgotten it. So I went to put in

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 10>a new password, and it told me there was no

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:49.240
<v Speaker 10>account under my email address. And I've had my email

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 10>address for a long time because I'm still with AOL so.

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<v Speaker 1>Good old al America Online.

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<v Speaker 10>All right, I've had it since I think ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 10>So it was gone. Everything was gone. All my customers,

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<v Speaker 10>all my friends, all my posts I've ever done, everything

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 10>had disappeared. I had no way to get You can't

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 10>get in touch with them, you know, I think you

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 10>know there's nook or Meta.

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 1>No, nope. So wait, okay, let me get this straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you lose access to your page?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes? Completely? You know, it was gone and even the

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<v Speaker 10>people that tried to contact me told me that it

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<v Speaker 10>said no messaging available. They they had blocked me once

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<v Speaker 10>before because they thought I was selling pets.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and you're not right, just to just to

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<v Speaker 1>confirm the portraits. I know we talked about that last time. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so where do you stand and what can I help

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<v Speaker 1>you with?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, is there any way to get in touch with them?

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 10>I went, I opened a new page. I did it

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<v Speaker 10>under my old email, which is still my email. They

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<v Speaker 10>accept did all that, and I opened a new page

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<v Speaker 10>altering my name just a little bit, and try and

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<v Speaker 10>trying to get back in touch with all of my

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 10>customers and people that had contacted me. But I can't

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<v Speaker 10>get to them at all. When I posted that I

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<v Speaker 10>had the problem on Facebook, of course I got eight

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<v Speaker 10>hundred scammers who want three hundred and fifty dollars to

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<v Speaker 10>find my Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>Page for Yeah, if you type in the word hacked

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<v Speaker 1>on if you post the word hacked on Facebook, they say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny five, really helped me get unhacked, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>this whole scam thing. These programs just look for keywords

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:46.439
<v Speaker 1>and then post stuff on the page. Okay, so here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I think happened. I actually think you might have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten hacked. I think the notification that you saw was bogus.

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 1>You click the notification, you put in your password that

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<v Speaker 1>was real, and as soon as you did that, these

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<v Speaker 1>scam art It's got a hold of your account and

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<v Speaker 1>then immediately either try to message everyone on that account

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>or do something with it that Facebook recognized to be bad,

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 1>and so they immediately block the account. That's where I

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>think you stand. And the reason why that you were

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 1>able to create a new account and it has a

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 1>slightly different username is because that old account is still

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:27.319
<v Speaker 1>percolating in the back end of the system somewhere. And

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>so if you had like petit facebook dot com slash

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 1>pet portraits, you know, they gave you pet portraits one

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 1>because that other username is still sort of taken up.

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 1>So what I recommend couple of things. Number One, you

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 1>got to be very careful with notifications on Facebook about

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>your password. It is very rare that Facebook asks you

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 1>to just randomly put in your password. It's even rareer

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>for them to send a notification that says you need

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to put in your password. So yeah, there's pages that say,

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're logging in from a different area

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>or device, but it's it's pretty rare and usually those

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 1>pages are pretty well marked. And always look at the

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.479
<v Speaker 1>URL when you're logging into any website to make sure

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 1>that it is the website that you should be logging into. Now,

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>on Facebook, people really try to trick folks with these

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>scam logins. What they'll do is they'll just they'll give

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you a notification that says, hey, your page, you know

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:27.400
<v Speaker 1>doesn't meet the community standards. Click here to to you know,

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>dispute it, and then you have to log in. As

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>soon as you log in, you're actually logging into a

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 1>spammer's account or a scam artist account and they take over. Now,

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>if this happens to you before you go ahead and

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 1>create a new account. Number one to protect yourself, turn

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 1>on two factor authentication. I know I'm a broken record,

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I say it every week on this show, but you

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 1>have to turn on two factor authentication. That will actually

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>protect you from yourself because if you do log in

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 1>next time with your password and they get it, it's

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.879
<v Speaker 1>going to send a code to your phone, and that

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 1>will stop the bad guys from actually getting in because

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>they won't have that code. Now, if you you know,

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>they may message you and ask you for that code,

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 1>don't give it to them. Now, if you do get

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>hacked on Facebook, you immediately want to go to Facebook

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>dot com slash hacked. That is the official place to go. Now,

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you have to understand Facebook has almost three billion people

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.479
<v Speaker 1>using the platform, so to get someone on the phone

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 1>is not possible. They don't do that. They do it

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>all through email, They do it all through automated systems,

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 1>and they do it all starting with Facebook dot com

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 1>slash hacked. Go there, it'll tell you, it'll give you

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:43.320
<v Speaker 1>a questionnaire about what's happening with your account. Many times

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:47.399
<v Speaker 1>people will regain access to their account, but it can

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:50.359
<v Speaker 1>take a while because it's not always the number one

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 1>priority of Facebook to help people get back into their accounts. Now,

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:56.319
<v Speaker 1>if you had a high profile account, maybe, but just

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, your everyday account, you know it's not necessarily

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:02.280
<v Speaker 1>their profile. The other thing I would do is set

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to this and you have any sort

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of business presence on Facebook. Number one, always always have

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 1>two factor authentication. On number two, you have to set

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 1>a secondary admin for your Facebook page. What will that

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 1>do If the person that manages your page gets locked out,

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 1>the other person will be able to still get in.

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 1>And so now, look, if you hand over your password

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 1>to the scam artists, they know to check and see

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 1>if there's an admin, and they may delete that person.

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:35.359
<v Speaker 1>But it's better to have this on your page because

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten stories of the primary person that works at

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a business passing away, leaving the company, whatever happens, they

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>get angry and they lock you out of the page.

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 1>So you want someone else on there that's trusted, even

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 1>if it's someone that you know, that can help you

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 1>get back into your account if you get locked out.

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes Facebook might even text them or email them

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, can you vouch for this person? Yeah,

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 1>believe me. Facebook has a lot of different ways of

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 1>getting people back into their accounts. It's all very strange

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of it is undocumented, but it's it

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>happens because I hear the stories all the time. So Reggie,

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I hope you can get back into your account. That

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>is my advice for you and keep up the good

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:21.439
<v Speaker 1>work with the pet pictures. Sounds like a fun little

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 1>business you got there, all right, give me a call.

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Triple eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>rich on Tech broadcasting live from Berlin, Germany, where I'm

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>here for IFA coming up later in the show. We're

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>going to talk to the show organizers so you can

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 1>get a better idea of what IFA twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>is all about. More rich on Tech Next, Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you,

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<v Speaker 1>talking technology live from Berlin, Germany. Triple eight rich one

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<v Speaker 1>a comment about today's show, send it to me now

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:20.720
<v Speaker 1>and I'll get it In the feedback segment. I'm really

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 1>struggling if I should change that to the feedbag. So

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of mail bag plus feedback equals feedbag,

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 1>but all I can think about with feedbag when I

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:34.840
<v Speaker 1>say it is like a trough with like cows, and

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:36.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like dumping like a bunch of food in there.

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:39.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't know maybe that's the right thing, but it's

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:44.240
<v Speaker 1>These are the things I consider in my spare time. Also,

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 1>if you want to follow me on Instagram at rich

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 1>on Tech is the place to go. I've posted all

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Speaker 1>about my trip here to Germany, so you can see

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:55.680
<v Speaker 1>what I've been doing here, and also I post tech

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>tips and various things there. So I've got the tech

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:01.800
<v Speaker 1>tip I'm in about how to turn off the spammy

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Verizon emails that is on their Instagram at rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, without further ado, let's go to Greg and

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 1>des Moines. Iowa Line one. Greg, you're on with rich.

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing, Rich?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing fantastic? Can you tell in my voice?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I hear you loud and clear. Excuse me, I

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<v Speaker 3>got a little cold. I hear you loud and clear.

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<v Speaker 3>And Juliani day, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it amazing what technology can do? We can go

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<v Speaker 1>live from pretty much anywhere. So what can I help

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<v Speaker 1>you with? Greg?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm legally blond, okay, I got two friendship for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm paying on a d flip three and and Roy

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<v Speaker 3>is not great paid off. Now they have a d

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<v Speaker 3>flip five from Google Oteam Bowler bo pone. Uh is

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<v Speaker 3>that a good phone? Or should I just keep the

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<v Speaker 3>phone I have. I don't well ow any of that

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<v Speaker 3>because of my eyesight, you know what I mean. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not fab here at computers.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what do you what are you doing on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone?

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<v Speaker 3>I had my Norse stand up some apps for me.

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<v Speaker 3>When she comes in, I g if I want to

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<v Speaker 3>please can if I want Pandora? I talk to my

0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:35.759
<v Speaker 3>phone okay. And I don't know if this is a

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<v Speaker 3>good phone or not. I like the I like the

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<v Speaker 3>d flip five because it got that prolable front clean

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't want to get your apps on it

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<v Speaker 3>or not?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's a great question. So here's the thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the fold three, which is a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years back, and now we're up to the five. So

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<v Speaker 1>the changes on the three to the five. So the

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<v Speaker 1>inside screen is identical, it's going to be the same size.

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<v Speaker 1>The outside screen is much bigger on the five. So

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<v Speaker 1>are you able to see the screen at all or no?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I think the bigger screen would actually be

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<v Speaker 1>a better thing for you, especially given the the eye condition.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm blinded one eye and I got doc coma

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<v Speaker 3>in my right eye down.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I think the bigger screen. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger screen would serve you well otherwise. Okay, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the next part I was going to get to.

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<v Speaker 3>So, and I have one other question for you. Do

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<v Speaker 3>it very important for me?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, right right? I did mine. Take I I redeede

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<v Speaker 3>my incoming and out going calls so people don't get

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<v Speaker 3>in my phone and be knowed, you know what I mean? Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>And I adjectantly hit the content. Oh what do you

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<v Speaker 3>call it? Where you save your addresses or your phone numbers?

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, sure, like the contact information.

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<v Speaker 3>Contact contact, I deleted them all. So I went in

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<v Speaker 3>right away and said all the places that I want

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<v Speaker 3>to uh call, you know, like my hospital, my plan,

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<v Speaker 3>my cousins, you know. Okay, but the numbers show up

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<v Speaker 3>and let me give you the name bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I will, I will tell you. Okay, So let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me answer your first question. So the first question

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<v Speaker 1>about the upgrade, Uh, I think that the outer screen

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<v Speaker 1>would probably be better. You'd probably enjoy it because it is bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>and it will probably be easier to see because it

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<v Speaker 1>is considerably larger. Now, you said you're still paying on

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<v Speaker 1>your old phone. Samsung is giving a pretty aggressive trade

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 1>in credit for your old phone six hundred dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>be exact, So depending on how much you got to

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<v Speaker 1>do the math. So this phone is one thousand bucks

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<v Speaker 1>minus is six hundred dollars trading credit for your old

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<v Speaker 1>phoneus how much you owe or I guess plus how

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<v Speaker 1>much you owe. So you got to do the math

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<v Speaker 1>and see if it's worth it to do that. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's say this one thousand bucks minus six hundred, that'd

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<v Speaker 1>be four hundred dollars. And let's say you owe two hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>That means this phone be six hundred dollars. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just did that math very quick, but you got

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out if that's worth it. Now, there may

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<v Speaker 1>be some additional discounts available to you if you look

0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:51.920
<v Speaker 1>on the Samsung offer programs. They've got education, government, military, employee,

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<v Speaker 1>first responder, I'm not sure maybe veteran that might apply,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can look into those as well. Now, your

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<v Speaker 1>second quest question about the contacts. Google stores a backup

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<v Speaker 1>of your contacts, even if you delete them. So what

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to do is go to Contacts dot

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<v Speaker 1>Google dot com and you should be able to find

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<v Speaker 1>a backup of your contacts that you deleted and you

0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 1>should be able to restore those contacts from there. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>Contacts dot Google dot com is where you go to

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<v Speaker 1>find a backup of your contacts. That is, given you're

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:30.960
<v Speaker 1>using Google Contacts, but since you're on an Android phone,

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:34.319
<v Speaker 1>that's typically how they're backed up. Greg and des Moines,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for calling today. All right, coming up next,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to talk to Oliver Merlin. He is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who basically put on IFA twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're here in Berlin. IFA is the big tech

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<v Speaker 1>trade show. Coming up. Oliver Merlin, Managing director of EFA Management,

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you all about what EFA is here for.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech, Rich DeMuro here on location in Berlin at

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<v Speaker 1>EFA twenty twenty three. This is a massive tech show.

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<v Speaker 1>And joining me now is Oliver Merlin, Managing director for

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<v Speaker 1>EFA Management. Thanks so much for joining me.

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<v Speaker 7>Today, pleasure, Good morning, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great? So this is my first time to Berlin,

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<v Speaker 1>first time to EFA. Explain this show to someone who

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been.

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<v Speaker 7>Right sure, well, first of all, welcome, thank you for coming.

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<v Speaker 11>EFA is the biggest consumer electronics and home appliances tech

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<v Speaker 11>show in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And so twenty six floors of things to see everything

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<v Speaker 1>from smart appliances, gadgets, healthcare. Is there any way to

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<v Speaker 1>see it all?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, Bring lots of pairs and comfortable shoes and download

0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:51.280
<v Speaker 11>the app and you'll find your way around, no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So explain to me what is here and listen.

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<v Speaker 11>Everything from gaming consoles to frich freezer's washing.

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<v Speaker 7>Machines, smart living, Internet of Things.

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<v Speaker 11>You've heard of all of these things, right, this is

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<v Speaker 11>where you come to see them all living and breathing.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the trends you're seeing with this year's exhibitors.

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<v Speaker 11>There's been two huge trends this year that have blown

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<v Speaker 11>almost everything else side of the world. Honestly, sustainability is

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<v Speaker 11>obviously the first one. Almost all of our exhibitors are

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<v Speaker 11>talking about sustainability, and the really enlightened ones are really

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<v Speaker 11>taking this so seriously. They know that consumers have put

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<v Speaker 11>sustainability at their number.

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<v Speaker 7>One priority when it comes to perching.

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<v Speaker 11>It's gone beyond brand or pricing or brand loyals or

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<v Speaker 11>anything like that.

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<v Speaker 7>Now sustainability is right up there.

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<v Speaker 11>If you haven't got a credible story about it, the

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<v Speaker 11>consumers will look elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's number one. The second one is AI. Right.

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<v Speaker 11>Nobody was talking about AI year ago, and now AI

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<v Speaker 11>is everywhere. Everybody's grandmother is an expert on AI, right,

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<v Speaker 11>and everybody's scared AI is going to end the world.

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<v Speaker 7>Those two are probably the biggest by far.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me an idea for some of the numbers. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a very large show, a lot of exhibitors, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people come from around the world to

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<v Speaker 1>see this.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's incredible.

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<v Speaker 11>So this whole we've taken every square centimeter that we

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<v Speaker 11>can good of the MESA Berlin.

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<v Speaker 7>It's about one.

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<v Speaker 11>Hundred and thirty thousand square meters. We've got two and

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<v Speaker 11>fifty nine exhibitors coming from forty eight countries, and we're

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<v Speaker 11>hoping for Again, these are projections because we don't know

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<v Speaker 11>until we get to the.

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<v Speaker 7>End of the five days.

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<v Speaker 11>Something like one hundred and eighty thousand people to come

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<v Speaker 11>through the door over the five days, right, So that's

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<v Speaker 11>an incredible amount of people from over one hundred countries.

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<v Speaker 11>I think maybe something like one hundred and forty countries

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<v Speaker 11>around the world.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a truly, truly huge event.

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<v Speaker 11>There are very few events of this size and scale

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<v Speaker 11>around in the industry, and certainly in this industry, and

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<v Speaker 11>this is the biggest.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the unique aspects of EFA is that the

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<v Speaker 1>public is allowed to attend. Unlike a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>shows trade shows, public isn't invaded. So what does that

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<v Speaker 1>add to the mix.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, we've only believe that EFA is actually the best

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<v Speaker 11>trade show for consumer electronics and.

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<v Speaker 7>Home appliances in the world.

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<v Speaker 11>But really, you know, as events develop and face to

0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:53.400
<v Speaker 11>face comes back and people really want to return to

0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:55.840
<v Speaker 11>events and trade shows, that's not enough just being a

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<v Speaker 11>trade show, right, So we really think about the consumer.

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<v Speaker 11>We've always had the consumer at the heart of what

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<v Speaker 11>we do, and our customers, you know, they have.

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<v Speaker 7>To think about the consumer. This is essentially a consumer industry.

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<v Speaker 11>So the show runs from a Friday to a Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 11>and in the middle of that is a weekend, and

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<v Speaker 11>obviously most consumers will tend to come on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 11>They can actually come any of the five days, but

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<v Speaker 11>we feel that that gives us a really really nice feel.

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<v Speaker 11>We feel that in the future the balance between B

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<v Speaker 11>to B and B two Z is going to blur,

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<v Speaker 11>and so we encourage us a general mixing of all

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<v Speaker 11>different points of view that encourage our exhibitors to really

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:27.200
<v Speaker 11>think about the consumers, not just their trade.

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<v Speaker 7>Fuyers and charges consumers to come and.

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<v Speaker 11>See the latest innovations and what their TVs might look

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:34.440
<v Speaker 11>like next year and the year after, what robots are happening,

0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:36.160
<v Speaker 11>you know, what the latest tech really is.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you balance the tradition of the show but

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<v Speaker 1>also innovation for the next year. You always want to

0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:44.120
<v Speaker 1>build upon it.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, absolutely so. EFHA is a show that's actually been

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<v Speaker 11>going ninety nine years. Obviously, there's a few years they've

0:57:48.720 --> 0:57:50.600
<v Speaker 11>been interrupted, and for a while the show is every

0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 11>other year. So there's a huge amount of history and

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 11>tradition that's associated with EFA. Albert Einstein, for example, was

0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:59.320
<v Speaker 11>one of the first openers, the keynote speakers of ef

0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:02.080
<v Speaker 11>and we've got some tremendous speakers going back through history.

0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 11>Various Prime ministers have opened the show and.

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<v Speaker 7>All those sorts of things.

0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:08.200
<v Speaker 11>However, the bedrock of the show is innovation, what's going

0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:10.160
<v Speaker 11>to happen tomorrow, what's happening next year, what's happening in

0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 11>the year after, Right, So we like to pride ourselves

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 11>on the fact of that, the historical association of EFO

0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:18.880
<v Speaker 11>with Berlin and this amazing venue, plus with the fact

0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:20.200
<v Speaker 11>that we're always looking forward.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got also an area where you're fixing different devices.

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Tell me about that.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, So one of the things that we do

0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 11>is that, you know, again going back to this idea

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:31.680
<v Speaker 11>of the balancing the trade show with adding some new things.

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:33.520
<v Speaker 7>So the Mend and repair shop.

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<v Speaker 11>That you refer to, we partner with the local Menda

0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:38.200
<v Speaker 11>Repair Cafe in Berlin, and the Menda Repair Shop sits

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:39.800
<v Speaker 11>within the Sustainability Village.

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<v Speaker 7>The Sustainability Village.

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<v Speaker 11>Is a particular zone several thousand square meters in Hall

0:58:44.520 --> 0:58:46.520
<v Speaker 11>two where you can go and listen to all of

0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:50.680
<v Speaker 11>our exhibitors talking about sustainability, world experts and sustainability talking

0:58:50.720 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 11>on the sustainability stage. And within that there's a Menda

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<v Speaker 11>Repair shop where I think predominantly local people, right, I

0:58:56.840 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 11>don't expect people have taken the plane with their washing machine,

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:02.920
<v Speaker 11>but Berliners and German people and maybe some people have

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:05.320
<v Speaker 11>come from Europe can bring their hair dryers, gaming consoles,

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:07.520
<v Speaker 11>you know, small things they might bring that are broken

0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:09.040
<v Speaker 11>or it needed a bit of a TLC and they

0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:10.760
<v Speaker 11>can take them to the Menda repair shop right there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then can you give us a sneak peak of

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<v Speaker 1>what's to come for next year?

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<v Speaker 7>Well?

0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:18.000
<v Speaker 11>Next year is the one hundredth year obviously of EFO,

0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:20.200
<v Speaker 11>so it's going to be truly enormous. I think one

0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:22.000
<v Speaker 11>of the things we haven't focused on so much this

0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:24.680
<v Speaker 11>year is the outside area, which at Messer Berlin we've

0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:29.080
<v Speaker 11>got a tremendous kind of opportunity to use a fantastic garden. Generally,

0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:31.720
<v Speaker 11>thing ascross the weather is okay, you'll see a lot

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<v Speaker 11>of more use of the outdoor space.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to give too much away, but in

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<v Speaker 7>terms of a kind.

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<v Speaker 11>Of festival vibe, if you like concerts and things like that,

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<v Speaker 11>you'll see us majoring on that. And I think just

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<v Speaker 11>being the one hundredth year, you'll see also a lot

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<v Speaker 11>more activations within.

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<v Speaker 7>And in and around the city of Berlin.

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<v Speaker 1>As you've organized this and talked to these companies and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gotten sneak peaks of what they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>show off anything that's really kind of caught your eye.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, look, I think the thing is with technology, there

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<v Speaker 11>are periods where, you know, sort of like if you

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<v Speaker 11>look at when the advent of the smartphone happened, right,

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<v Speaker 11>all the technology is suddenly left right, And I think

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<v Speaker 11>you're going to see that in the next year, probably

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<v Speaker 11>to eighteen months with AI.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>So, a lot of our big home appliance companies have

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<v Speaker 7>been talking about.

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<v Speaker 11>The Internet of Things and smart things and smart homes

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<v Speaker 11>all these things. Now I don't think that's really, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>really caught fire.

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<v Speaker 7>I think with the advent of AI that you're.

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<v Speaker 11>Going to see that enormously in the next year or two,

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<v Speaker 11>and I think that will really power their businesses and

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<v Speaker 11>obviously for one hundred and one hundred and one as

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<v Speaker 11>we go along like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, let's talk Berlin for a moment. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you're from here, but you probably know this city

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well at this point. So what is Berlin all about?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, well, I can't quite yet do the JFK. It

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<v Speaker 11>could be nine in Berlin. I mean, you know, so

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<v Speaker 11>I've been here for about a year now and I

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<v Speaker 11>love it, you know, it's I'm from London and it's

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<v Speaker 11>it's strange. It's got a lot of similarity to London,

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<v Speaker 11>many many different types of areas within the city, a

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<v Speaker 11>lot of vibrancy. You feel the history and you're wandering

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<v Speaker 11>around and you just feel that kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 11>intensity about the city.

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<v Speaker 7>It really kind of lives and breathes. You really feel that.

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<v Speaker 7>And IFA has.

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<v Speaker 11>Been here in IFA is at Berlin Institute if you like,

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<v Speaker 11>one of the first things that I did in my role,

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<v Speaker 11>because I've partnered with the city and you can become

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<v Speaker 11>a partner of the City of Berlin. And we've tried

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<v Speaker 11>to set up, as I said, this platform Berlin Tech

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<v Speaker 11>Week where we do various activations around the city. That

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<v Speaker 11>Iconic Platz is and there's a Soho house in Berlin

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<v Speaker 11>so doing things there. We've got a gaming afternoon at

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<v Speaker 11>a place called Level Lvl. There's any of your listeners

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<v Speaker 11>that know Berlin a little bit, a big gaming impouring

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<v Speaker 11>where we're.

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<v Speaker 7>Doing some things there.

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<v Speaker 11>So we're really trying to make that close association with

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<v Speaker 11>the city.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, we have a really good advantage Berlin.

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<v Speaker 11>It's one of those cities that really lends itself to

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<v Speaker 11>you know, it would be a shame to not use Berlin.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone wants to come for next year, do you

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<v Speaker 1>already have the dates?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, it's the sixth to the tenth next year, so

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<v Speaker 11>slightly later for your listeners that want to come from

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<v Speaker 11>the US. I think there's no clash with Labour Day,

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<v Speaker 11>which sometimes you know, stops people coming from the US.

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<v Speaker 11>So yeah, sixth and tenth of September, Marketing and daries

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<v Speaker 11>please come.

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver Merlin, Managing director for EFA Management, Thanks so much

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<v Speaker 1>for joining me today.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks very much. Be an absolute pleasure.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to learn more about IFA twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three or plan your trip for twenty twenty four, go

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<v Speaker 1>to my website for more information. Rich on Tech dot

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<v Speaker 1>TV more rich On Tech show coming up right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking

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<v Speaker 1>technology at triple eight Rich one oh one eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four to two four one zero one and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm told Green Day also German. Wow, the things you'll

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<v Speaker 1>learn when you travel. Let's go to line three. Patty

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<v Speaker 1>is in Santa Clarita, California, back home.

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<v Speaker 9>Welcome to the show, Patty, Hi, thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 9>so I'm hoping you can explain things in terms that

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<v Speaker 9>I can understand, because I just don't get it. I

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<v Speaker 9>got a new show because I went swimming with my

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<v Speaker 9>old phone and my iPhone, and so I restored them backup,

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<v Speaker 9>and none of my old text message threads came back.

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<v Speaker 9>So I went to the Apple store and he was

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<v Speaker 9>helping me out, and he said, it's something that needs

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<v Speaker 9>to go to the next level because they can try

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<v Speaker 9>to retrieve it from a different place that it gets stored.

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<v Speaker 9>Even though I have my backups always on and I

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<v Speaker 9>have my messages safe forever, they're no longer there. So

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<v Speaker 9>I've had two people try to help me to try this,

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<v Speaker 9>try this. Why didn't it back up? And how do

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<v Speaker 9>I prevent this from happening in the future.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, number one way to get them?

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<v Speaker 1>Well there may be a way. So, okay, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to explain number one, what happened to the old phone?

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<v Speaker 1>Because phones, you know, the most of them are water

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<v Speaker 1>resistant at this point, So what was it? An older device?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 9>It was an older one. It was an iPhone eleven

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<v Speaker 9>and I guess it was in the water for too long.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that that can explain it.

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<v Speaker 9>So it got Yeah, so I couldn't transfer from that phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So most phones are water resistant for about thirty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes in the water, so now they could last longer

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the situation and how deep it is. But basically,

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<v Speaker 1>the deeper the phone goes and the longer it's in

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<v Speaker 1>there are the deeper it is, the shorter it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be okay, because it more pressure builds up on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. So that's what's happening there. So the phone

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<v Speaker 1>was a total loss, Like they couldn't retrieve anything.

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<v Speaker 9>I could not turn anything on, and it was not

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<v Speaker 9>like thirty minutes. It was like at the most ten

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<v Speaker 9>minutes in the water.

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<v Speaker 3>But I tried.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, So how did you restore the new phone?

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<v Speaker 10>To back it up?

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<v Speaker 9>I mean went to back up from one of the

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<v Speaker 9>previous backups, like July twenty first, I had a backup

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<v Speaker 9>to like twenty eighth, there was a backup, okay, So

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<v Speaker 9>we tried to life eight. Didn't happen, was it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>From iCloud everything okay, always keep that up.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And so do you have now you have that

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<v Speaker 1>in iCloud? Do you have the uh, let's see, do

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<v Speaker 1>you do you ever connect your phone to the computer

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a backup there.

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<v Speaker 9>I do have a backup there. I didn't connect it

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<v Speaker 9>to the computer, but I try to access my messages

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<v Speaker 9>on iCloud and I couldn't find them there. There's no

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<v Speaker 9>there's no icon for I message when I go to iCloud.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, I know. This is the this is the

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<v Speaker 1>beauty of what Apple has done here. They've made this

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<v Speaker 1>incredible messaging service that is incredibly frustrating. Yeah, because people

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where their messages are. They don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to find them. They're not. You would think you could

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<v Speaker 1>just go to iCloud dot com and they would all

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<v Speaker 1>be there, but of course they're not. You would think

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<v Speaker 1>that you would be able to just open up the

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<v Speaker 1>backup that they do on your computer and find your messages.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot. You would think that they would allow a

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<v Speaker 1>third party app to go in on your phone and

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<v Speaker 1>download your messages for safe keeping. They do not. Now

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<v Speaker 1>some of this is because of security reasons, but most

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<v Speaker 1>of it is because of Apple's stubbornness. Here's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, do you have messages in iCloud enabled on

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<v Speaker 1>your phone? That's my first question. I do, And are

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<v Speaker 1>you okay? So have you gone to I have to

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<v Speaker 1>remember how to do this. I've gotta. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>go to your Apple I D and you go to

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<v Speaker 1>iCloud and then show all messages, is that toggled.

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<v Speaker 9>On on my phone?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, well it is now at least I mean I know,

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<v Speaker 9>I know I had it. I'm so sure that I

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<v Speaker 9>had it because I am and how much?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, can you go to your phone? Can you go

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<v Speaker 1>to your phone right now and see that? Because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious what it says about managed storage?

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<v Speaker 9>Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>Hold on, let me check.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess my phone. Okay. So you go to settings

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<v Speaker 1>and then iCloud. Okay, that's the thing at the top.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, let me find it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean Apple ID, it says, he says settings

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<v Speaker 1>Apple ID at the top, and then iCloud okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>then show all apps using iCloud click show all Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and now that okay. Now when you tap that, does

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<v Speaker 1>it say sync this phone? And how much managed storage

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<v Speaker 1>are you using? Up there?

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<v Speaker 9>It says, yes, I think this sto managed storage? One

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<v Speaker 9>point four do the bikes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? So one point four gigs? I have nine gigs, which, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not sure that your messages are are there. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what here's what I recommend if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>see if these are on there. There's a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>things you do. Do you do you have an Apple computer?

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<v Speaker 1>I do, okay, So on your Apple computer, there is

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. If you go into your settings and

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<v Speaker 1>you can go into your messages and there is a

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<v Speaker 1>little I a little selection that says messages in the cloud.

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<v Speaker 1>You toggle that on and it will attempt to download

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<v Speaker 1>all of your messages from iCloud to your computer. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one way. The other way. The other way is there's

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<v Speaker 1>an app called Amazing, and this is a paid app,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's gonna cost you some money, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's about maybe thirty bucks. But you can download that

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<v Speaker 1>and you can take that backup that you have from

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<v Speaker 1>your computer and you can have this app analyze it

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<v Speaker 1>and see if those messages are there. So that's another way,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would only do that as your last resort.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing you can do is you can go

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<v Speaker 1>to something like an iPad and try to toggle on

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<v Speaker 1>and off the messages in the cloud and see if

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<v Speaker 1>they show up. But this is this is I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just you, Patty, there is no easy way

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<v Speaker 1>to do this, and so I'm trying to explain it

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<v Speaker 1>in the simplest terms. But these things are locked away

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<v Speaker 1>in a system that nobody knows how to access. And

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<v Speaker 1>I love the Apple said, you know the escalation all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff like, I'm not really sure what that means,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, these are the places that you can

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<v Speaker 1>look for these. But it sounds like you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>gig of messages and I'm not sure how many messages.

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<v Speaker 1>How long have you been using this new phone?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, just like a month?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. The other thing you can do is if you're

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<v Speaker 1>still are you still on your iPhone?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you go to iCloud okay, okay, and it

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<v Speaker 1>says device backups. Do you see that?

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<v Speaker 9>Get it again?

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<v Speaker 1>It says device backups yes, and then it says iCloud backup.

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<v Speaker 1>If you tap that, it should give you a list

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<v Speaker 1>of the older phones. Do you see your old phone

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<v Speaker 1>in there?

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<v Speaker 3>I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? How many gigs is that?

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<v Speaker 9>It says fourteen gigs?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So there's a chance there's there's a chance that

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<v Speaker 1>your messages are still in that backup. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>try to restore you can either. I mean, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do this, but you can try restoring that

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<v Speaker 1>back to your phone and see if something got hiccuped

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<v Speaker 1>during the transfer that's annoying. You should probably use an

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<v Speaker 1>app like I amazing to extract that backup and then

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<v Speaker 1>see if it can find the messages. But again it

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<v Speaker 1>depends how valuable these messages are to you, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of work, and it may be worth

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<v Speaker 1>it to just kind of, you know, say this didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out and it's unfortunate. But it's definitely frustrating, that's

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. It's one of those things where I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I had a simple way. People ask me all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I back up my eye messages? How do

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<v Speaker 1>I print them out? How do I do all this stuff? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>third party programs can help you do it, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are still not perfect, and they're expensive and they cost money,

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<v Speaker 1>and they may not work. But the I Amazing is

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<v Speaker 1>probably your best bet if you want to try to

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<v Speaker 1>extract these messages from the old backup. Thanks so much

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<v Speaker 1>for the call today, appreciate it. Sorry that happened. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you were doing the right thing. You had the

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<v Speaker 1>backup on you had I message on you had the

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<v Speaker 1>I message in the cloud on, but somehow this all

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<v Speaker 1>got lost and it just shouldn't happen that way. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of text messages, you are going to be getting an

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<v Speaker 1>emergency test message very soon. FEMA and the FCC are

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<v Speaker 1>conducting a test of the emergency alert system. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are in the Los Angeles well, this is nationwide, but

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<v Speaker 1>my point is if you are if you were in

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<v Speaker 1>the Los Angeles area over the past couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>when we had the earthquakes and the tropical storm and

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<v Speaker 1>the hurricane, you got a lot of these wireless alerts,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're pretty familiar with them. But FEMA's going to

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<v Speaker 1>do a nationwide test and this will be sent to

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<v Speaker 1>all cell phones in English and Spanish. They're also going

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<v Speaker 1>to broadcast it on radio and TVs nationwide. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the third and seventh test issued nationwide, so the third

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<v Speaker 1>for the wireless emergency alerts, the seventh for the the

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<v Speaker 1>one on TV, and basically they're just trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure this all works. I have a feeling it does,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're very familiar with it. But again, uh oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I should probably tell you the date October fourth, Did

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you that the message is going to say

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<v Speaker 1>this is a test. It's gonna appear for thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll appear for a minute on TV and cable and radio.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, if you want to put it in your

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<v Speaker 1>calendar October fourth, hopefully they'll do it when we're asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be very, very cruel. Hopefully it's during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>But no matter what, even when you know this is coming,

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<v Speaker 1>it still makes you jump because it's so jarring. You're

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<v Speaker 1>That's what a lot of folks are doing let's see. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm broadcasting live from Berlin, Germany, my first time here.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had more pretzels than I could ever imagine, than

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<v Speaker 1>you could ever imagine. I've had pretzels for breakfast, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just put it that way. Yesterday I had a pretzel

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<v Speaker 1>for lunch, a butter pretzel, which I'd never had before.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so it's it's been a good trip. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to line three, Durango, Colorado, Downtown Brown.

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<v Speaker 12>You're on with rich Well Dudaben. Hey, I want to

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<v Speaker 12>ask you a question about if you're traveling to another

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<v Speaker 12>country like your you want to take your own phone.

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<v Speaker 12>Do you need to get a new SIM card or

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<v Speaker 12>do you need to rent a phone or what's the

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<v Speaker 12>best way to do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Good question. So a couple of things you need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Number One, call your carrier. Start with that, because depending

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<v Speaker 1>on your carrier, many of them either include some level

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<v Speaker 1>of international calling these days, or they'll charge you ten

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a day if you take your phone to a

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<v Speaker 1>different country. Now, for some people they may say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds really easy. Just keep in mind the data

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<v Speaker 1>is typically limited when you do that. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>easier to get what's called an eSIM, so if your

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<v Speaker 1>phone supports it. An eSIM is basically something that you

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<v Speaker 1>just activate from an app on your phone. My favorite

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<v Speaker 1>app is called Rolo Ai r Alo. In fact, that

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<v Speaker 1>is powering the show right now. This show is running

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<v Speaker 1>off of an eSIM that I have purchased from them,

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<v Speaker 1>so the data is going strong. It works well. And

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<v Speaker 1>what you do is you buy that from your phone

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<v Speaker 1>before you leave the country. So you download the Aerlow app.

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<v Speaker 1>You type in the country or region that you're going to.

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<v Speaker 1>You can you know, it's basically cheaper to buy it

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<v Speaker 1>for the specific country than the region, and you type

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<v Speaker 1>that in. It tells you what your plans are. It's

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<v Speaker 1>usually pre paid. You you know, pay fifteen bucks for

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<v Speaker 1>five gigs of data, it lasts for a week. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're paying fifty dollars for thirty days that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty gigs of data. Whatever it is. They give you

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<v Speaker 1>the options. Once you purchase it, you then install it

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone. And the way you install it is

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<v Speaker 1>you just basically tap a link. It will install the

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<v Speaker 1>SIM card, the eSIM and then you don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>activate it until you get to the country that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to use it. And so once you get off

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<v Speaker 1>the plane, what I do is I'll toggle off data

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<v Speaker 1>roaming for my primary carrier, and that way I could

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<v Speaker 1>still use Wi Fi calling and I'll get my texts

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<v Speaker 1>through the Wi Fi and then you toggle on the

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<v Speaker 1>eSIM and it will take a minute to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>find the network and turn on and activate, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're good to go. Now, esimsically only work with data,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just actually open the airlow app and now

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<v Speaker 1>they give you a phone number two if you want,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can also roam with a foreign phone number

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Now I don't really think you need that

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<v Speaker 1>because you can easily just turn on your Wi Fi

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<v Speaker 1>calling and still get your phone calls through Wi Fi

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and your text messages through Wi Fi as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So it has gotten a lot easier to travel to

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<v Speaker 1>different countries because of eSIMs, because of the way phones work,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the roaming agreements. It used to be a

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<v Speaker 1>very expensive, very prohibitive and phones just didn't work in

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<v Speaker 1>different places. Now they work pretty much everywhere. Now. On

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<v Speaker 1>a separate note, there's another way you could do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get a hot spot. So I've been testing

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<v Speaker 1>this hot spot called Solace five G. SOLS Solace five

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<v Speaker 1>G hotspot and it looks like almost like a battery

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<v Speaker 1>bank with a screen and this has its own SIM inside.

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<v Speaker 1>And what you do is you go on their website

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<v Speaker 1>and you just say where you're going to go, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can buy data on this and it becomes your

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<v Speaker 1>own personal hotspot. You can connect up to sixteen different devices.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what this is handy for is if

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<v Speaker 1>you are traveling with a family or a group, it's

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<v Speaker 1>much easier. Instead of buying everyone a simcard or an

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<v Speaker 1>e SIM, you can just activate this, tell everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>turn on their WiFi. You keep this in your backpack

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone can hotspot off of this. So they would

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<v Speaker 1>connect to the Wi Fi on this little device and

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<v Speaker 1>the battery has lasted pretty long. It's also a battery

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<v Speaker 1>bank as well. So the plans. Now, the downside to

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<v Speaker 1>this Solas five G is that you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>with their plans. And it's easier because it's simple, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's going to cost you a little bit more. So,

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<v Speaker 1>convenience always comes with a cost, and that's what this

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<v Speaker 1>gives you a lot of convenience. It works everywhere you

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<v Speaker 1>can purchase one plan, you can go to a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of different countries, and the data lasts, let's see by

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<v Speaker 1>the month, the day, or the gigabyte, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>have a whole bunch of plans that you can purchase.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's actually really cool. If you have a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of devices like myself, If you bring a tablet,

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<v Speaker 1>a laptop, a phone, you know you can connect them

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<v Speaker 1>all to this device and it'll work no matter where

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<v Speaker 1>you go. So you just throw it in your backpack,

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<v Speaker 1>set it forget it now. Keep in mind, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the hotel room most of the time you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get free Wi Fi. And in fact, around Europe

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<v Speaker 1>and many other countries, free Wi Fi is pretty ubiquitous,

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<v Speaker 1>so you probably need less data than you think. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the data eSIM that I bought. I bought

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty gigabyte card and I've only used about fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>on my phone that I was using a lot. I

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<v Speaker 1>told you I was testing the pixel fold. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I was using that a lot. Oh one pro tip

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<v Speaker 1>you want to turn off if you're backing up your photos,

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<v Speaker 1>especially through Google Photos or these other apps. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to turn off roaming. Do not back up your pictures

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<v Speaker 1>while you're roaming, and maybe turn off data backups completely

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<v Speaker 1>unless you're on Wi Fi. So there's an option in

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<v Speaker 1>the settings to turn off cellular data backups on all

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<v Speaker 1>these apps that back up your photos. You're on vacation

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<v Speaker 1>or you're on a trip, you're taking a lot of pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>If your phone is uploading all of those pictures in

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<v Speaker 1>real time, not only is it going to burn through

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<v Speaker 1>your battery instantly, but it's also going to burn through

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<v Speaker 1>your data really really fast. So those are a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of the options that you have. They used to have

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<v Speaker 1>another option where you could rent one of these Solas

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<v Speaker 1>five G type devices and you can rent a hotspot.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times, they are not doing that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the companies that were renting them have

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<v Speaker 1>gone out of business because data has gotten so cheap

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<v Speaker 1>and eSIMs have gotten so easy, and finally, Downtown Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, the other thing you can do is

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<v Speaker 1>just buy a real SIM card and pop that into

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<v Speaker 1>your phone. And so you could typically at the airport

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<v Speaker 1>they'll have people selling SIM cards and they will help

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<v Speaker 1>you pop that into your phone. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>little tricky because not every phone is unlocked. Not every

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<v Speaker 1>phone works in every place, not every SIM card will

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<v Speaker 1>work on your phone. So to me, I think the eSIM,

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<v Speaker 1>if your phone supports it, is really the surefire way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will tell you from experience. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to put my mom on a blast here, but she

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<v Speaker 1>went to Germany a while ago and she was able

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<v Speaker 1>to activate her eSIM herself. And so it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of these things where I was a little bit concerned

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<v Speaker 1>because I set her up with it and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>all you have to do is activate it when you

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<v Speaker 1>get to the place you're going. And sure enough, it

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<v Speaker 1>worked just fine, and it worked for her when people

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<v Speaker 1>in her group could not figure out their text or

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<v Speaker 1>their their data. So that was pretty cool. Great question.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for calling from Durango, Colorado. Today. Let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about Google. This was a very popular story I

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<v Speaker 1>did on TV and I think you probably want to

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<v Speaker 1>know about it. Google has this new feature that lets

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<v Speaker 1>you remove your personal information from their Google Search results.

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<v Speaker 1>This is information like your phone number, your email, your

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<v Speaker 1>home address. Just go ahead and search yourself. You'll find

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of results with your personal information in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Google is making it much easier to get this

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<v Speaker 1>out of their search results. Now I say that specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>it does not delete it from the website that posted it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it makes it a lot tougher for people to

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<v Speaker 1>find it because it's not going to show up when

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<v Speaker 1>someone searches your name and address or phone number, and

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<v Speaker 1>it won't show up in those search results. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a free service. It's called Results about You. Google

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<v Speaker 1>introduced it last year. It was much more complicated. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it is much easier. Google will actually once you tell

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<v Speaker 1>them your name, your phone number, your address, your email.

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<v Speaker 1>You can put in multi variations. I know you have

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<v Speaker 1>to trust Google to give them that information, but they

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<v Speaker 1>say they're not going to use it for anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>But once you put that information in there, it will

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<v Speaker 1>search the web on a daily basis to see if

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<v Speaker 1>new sites pop up with your info, and if it does,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll send you an alert and you can say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech coming your way from Berlin, Germany. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here at talking technology

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Let's go to UH line to Sylvie in

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego, California. Sylvie, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm wondering about a recommendation for a video doorbell. The

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<v Speaker 13>only one I'm really familiar with is ring, and then

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<v Speaker 13>I'd also would like to plug in somehow to hear

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<v Speaker 13>it upstairs when the doorbell rings.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well it sounds like you want to ring, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what they do. I think ring. They invented

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<v Speaker 1>this genre of doorbells, and I still think they are

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best. So okay, there you know some

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<v Speaker 1>people you know. It depends kind of depends what ecosystem

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<v Speaker 1>you're in. Are Do you have any smart home products?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, like what.

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<v Speaker 13>Sonos We have another door bell, but I can't hook

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<v Speaker 13>up to it, so I want to replace it.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you mean you can't hook up to it.

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<v Speaker 13>On my phone? For some reason? Only my husband can

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<v Speaker 13>hook up to it, and it doesn't have the option

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<v Speaker 13>of it doesn't ring, so if I don't have my

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<v Speaker 13>phone near me, I don't hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's definitely a problem.

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<v Speaker 13>Ring on my phone. It only rings on his.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, do you want to do hardwired or do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do wireless?

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<v Speaker 13>Probably wireless. I don't think we have the wiring.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think the ring is probably your best bet.

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<v Speaker 1>The main thing is that you're probably going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to subscribe to their basic service, which is I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's anywhere between twenty to forty dollars a year at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. I know everyone has raised prices, so i'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to I have to check to see what the

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<v Speaker 1>price is at this point. But what I like about

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<v Speaker 1>the ring doorbell is it simple. It's ubiquitous. You know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have them, so there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them out there. They work well, They work across

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<v Speaker 1>multiple phones, so if your husband wants to check it

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<v Speaker 1>on his phone, you want to check it on your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that. You can keep it pretty secure

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<v Speaker 1>because they enable a two factor by default, which means

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<v Speaker 1>other folks can't look at what's happening on your doorbell

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<v Speaker 1>and they have that chime. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have it ring upstairs where you want to be, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good way to do it. You just plug in

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<v Speaker 1>the little chime, you hook it up. It's very very simple,

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<v Speaker 1>activate it in the app, and now you can hear

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<v Speaker 1>your doorbell anywhere in the home. It's funny because they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have that when it first came out. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I first got this thing, I was like, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to have my phone, Like, what if there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a babysitter in the house, how are they going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear the doorbell? Not that I really want them

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<v Speaker 1>opening the door, but you know what I mean, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>does that sound like something that will work?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, it does. I know Ring was sold and so

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<v Speaker 13>I didn't know if it was still the same good company.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, I mean, look it's it's owned by Amazon now,

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<v Speaker 1>so there is some debate over you know, and the

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<v Speaker 1>founder recently left. So I mean that, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>tells you something. But I will tell you that I

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<v Speaker 1>test a lot of stuff. I still think that the

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<v Speaker 1>Ring video doorbell has some of the best features. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the simplest and they, you know, as much as they

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<v Speaker 1>are now pushing the subscription side of things. More, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they've got a lot of accessories, They've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>using them, and so I think in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different versions too, So it depends you can you can choose.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go on their website and see all the

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<v Speaker 1>different doorbells they have. They used to have one, but

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<v Speaker 1>now they've got, you know, several doorbells. And the cool

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<v Speaker 1>thing is too, is that it does work with Alexa,

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<v Speaker 1>it does work with other items in sort of their

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<v Speaker 1>their ecosystem is is huge at this point, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you can get lights, you can get cameras, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can build upon the video doorbell, which is of course

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<v Speaker 1>what they want you to do. So the basic video

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<v Speaker 1>doorbell looks like it's about seventy bucks. They go up

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<v Speaker 1>to one hundred and sixty. The new one is the

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<v Speaker 1>video Doorbell four and those are the wireless ones. And

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<v Speaker 1>what I recommend pro tip is to get two batteries

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<v Speaker 1>so that you can swap out the battery without having

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<v Speaker 1>to wait to recharge. And I can't take credit for

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<v Speaker 1>that idea. What's up?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I was going to ask you you can put

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<v Speaker 13>them anywhere you don't need a power source because their

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<v Speaker 13>battery yep, rechargeable.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, yep, yep. Now I wish the battery recharged faster,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wish to recharge with USBC. Maybe the new

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<v Speaker 1>ones do, but mine does not. But I can't take

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<v Speaker 1>credit for the two battery set up. That was my

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<v Speaker 1>friend Brian when he came over and he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I said, oh, my ring. The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>is that you guys switched the battery out. Depending on

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<v Speaker 1>the battery lasts anywhere between three and six months. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that is a wide range, and it could last even

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<v Speaker 1>less depending on how all often you have your device

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<v Speaker 1>set to record, how long you're making these recordings, and

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<v Speaker 1>also if your doorbells in direct sunlight, that will wear

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<v Speaker 1>down the battery faster too, But in general you'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>get around three to six months, depending on how much

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<v Speaker 1>you're using this thing. I find that I get on

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<v Speaker 1>the lower end. I would say probably at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting like two months. But my batteries are a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit older, and I do have it. My car

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<v Speaker 1>got hit outside my house. That was a story I

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<v Speaker 1>told in this radio show. And of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to have my thing running a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more these days because of that incident where it did

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<v Speaker 1>not record because I had it set to not record

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<v Speaker 1>as much. Anyway, that's my problem, Sylvie, not yours. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you excited for this doorbell?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think you'll like it all right. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the call, Sylvie. Check it out ring video doorbell and

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<v Speaker 1>also get the chime and the secondary battery and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you'll be set up pretty well. Coming up on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, we are going to talk to Mark Vina.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the principal analyst at his own company, tech

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<v Speaker 1>smart Tech Research. Mark is a great guy. Met him

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<v Speaker 1>this week at IFA. Very smart guy. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the show. We're gonna talk about what Apple's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about AI whole bunch of stuff coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Right here, you are listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to rich on Tech, Rich DeMuro on location here

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<v Speaker 1>in Berlin at IFA twenty twenty three. We are on

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<v Speaker 1>the show floor. Joining me now is Mark Vina, principal

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<v Speaker 1>analyst at Smart Tech Research. Mark. Thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me.

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<v Speaker 2>Rich, Thank you for having me all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, IFA twenty twenty three, this is my first year here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a large show, the only thing I really

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<v Speaker 1>have to compare it to is CEES. How are they different?

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<v Speaker 14>It's a tough compare because she yes, Obviously, it really

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<v Speaker 14>caters to a US audience. It's a very much a

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<v Speaker 14>B to B type of event, so consumers technically can't

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<v Speaker 14>go to CEES. What I love about efan I've been

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<v Speaker 14>coming here many years, is that it's got a tremendous

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<v Speaker 14>international flavor, a lot of legacy. The show goes back

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<v Speaker 14>to nineteen twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>The first color.

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<v Speaker 14>Television was introduced here, the first European car radio was

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<v Speaker 14>introduced here, So it really has kind of a not

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<v Speaker 14>only an international flavor, but it has a strong entrepreneurial

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<v Speaker 14>and innovative spirit. So not to say the cs IS

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<v Speaker 14>doesn't have an equal level of innovation, but it really

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<v Speaker 14>is a kind of different show because of the cultural

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<v Speaker 14>international aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they really play up the fact that it takes

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<v Speaker 1>place in Berlin and also the public is allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>come to this show, which is one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>questions I get about CES every year. People see it

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<v Speaker 1>on TV and they say can I go, And I

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<v Speaker 1>say sorry, it's press only in analysts. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>make of the fact that the public is invited here.

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<v Speaker 14>I think that's a huge differentiator and I wish CES

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<v Speaker 14>would do that, but they will. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 14>great way to be able to see things in action.

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<v Speaker 14>There's no substitute. Despite the Internet, despite surfing and exploring

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<v Speaker 14>and getting information on the web, there's nothing like touching

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<v Speaker 14>and feeling products. And for example, if you're interested in

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<v Speaker 14>the smart appliance for your kitchen, seeing just the incredible breadth.

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<v Speaker 2>Of products around here, there's no substitute.

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<v Speaker 1>For seeing that in person and also being able to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to someone immediately. So if you're on YouTube, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're online, you're reading a whole bunch of stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to talk to someone from the company

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<v Speaker 1>and ask the questions that you have to me as

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<v Speaker 1>a journalist, I always find that invaluable.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a huge deal.

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<v Speaker 14>And in addition to that, I would also say competitive comparisons.

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<v Speaker 14>So you can go to LG, you can go to

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<v Speaker 14>with Samsung Boo if you can see Hire, which is

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<v Speaker 14>obviously a big European brand out here, and actually see

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<v Speaker 14>the different models that compete with each other in one

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<v Speaker 14>exact in one location.

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<v Speaker 1>How has this show changed over the years, because in

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<v Speaker 1>years past. When I tell people about EPA, they say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of appliances. Has that changed?

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<v Speaker 2>It has changed.

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<v Speaker 14>I'd be going to the show for about just five

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<v Speaker 14>years and the show has evolved quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it has a.

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<v Speaker 14>Very strong smart home flavor to it, a very strong

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<v Speaker 14>smart home component to it. I would say focus on sustainability.

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<v Speaker 14>Just about every vendor here is not only offering great

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<v Speaker 14>technology products that solve real problems, but sustainability, which is

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<v Speaker 14>a huge, huge deal Europe, is absolutely reflected in the

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<v Speaker 14>products that you see here. So that's become a big,

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<v Speaker 14>big tenant here.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the irony of sustainability with you know, products that

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<v Speaker 1>you throw out or you know, people don't repair their

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<v Speaker 1>tech as much these days.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right, That's exactly right. And I think the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that folks.

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<v Speaker 14>Don't realize just we're talking about smart smart appliances, it's

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<v Speaker 14>not just about convenience. The smart applying products, just to

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<v Speaker 14>focus on that for a second, are incredibly efficient. I mean,

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<v Speaker 14>without even ignoring the productivity advantages you get from the

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<v Speaker 14>smart aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That it can do certain.

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<v Speaker 14>Things with AI and other capabilities that are interesting. Now,

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<v Speaker 14>if you're replacing a refrigerator at that's fifteen or twenty

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<v Speaker 14>years old, You're going to see your savings and I

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<v Speaker 14>would I would encourage people to check that out because

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<v Speaker 14>it's just a huge opportunity that some people just don't appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>AI is obviously a big part of things. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you make of the recent developments in AI? And do

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<v Speaker 1>you see that here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you do.

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<v Speaker 14>I think you see in a very smart and intelligent

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<v Speaker 14>way here. Uh, the AI category I'm in love with.

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<v Speaker 14>I think it offers enormous advantages and productivity benefits.

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<v Speaker 2>There are aspects of AI that.

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<v Speaker 14>Concern me a bit in terms of deep fakes and

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<v Speaker 14>things like that that have obviously have a very negative

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<v Speaker 14>connotation to it. But the AI thing is here to stay,

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<v Speaker 14>and you see it actually integrated and a lot of

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<v Speaker 14>different products that are very very practical. For example, I

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<v Speaker 14>saw a demo the other day that they showed a

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<v Speaker 14>robot vacuum that was intelligent enough to know that Let's

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<v Speaker 14>say you it scanned your you gave it access to

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<v Speaker 14>your email. Let's say you had a party the night

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<v Speaker 14>before without you telling it, it would know the following

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<v Speaker 14>day you know you had a party, so you probably

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<v Speaker 14>want to get to the living room back. So that's

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<v Speaker 14>a very very interesting productive way that you were seeing

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<v Speaker 14>and doing. It's being integrated into products in a very

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<v Speaker 14>useful manner.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have never thought vacuum would want access to

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<v Speaker 1>my email, but maybe my calendar. I'll start out slow now.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that's really interesting about all of

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<v Speaker 1>these tech trade shows is Apple. They pretty much don't

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<v Speaker 1>attend in a big way with a booth or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but they really have an impact on every show.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, Apple does cast a very long shadow even

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<v Speaker 14>when they're not here, they are here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard not to.

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<v Speaker 14>Go into a booth here, regardless of what the product

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<v Speaker 14>is and not see that the vendor or fering the solution,

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<v Speaker 14>regardless of what it is, is not compatible in the

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<v Speaker 14>Apple ecosystem in some way.

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<v Speaker 7>You have to be.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like table stakes.

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<v Speaker 14>If you're not part of the Apple ecosystem and you're

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<v Speaker 14>not compatible in some way, you know pretty much you

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<v Speaker 14>box yourself out from a pretty significant portion of the market.

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<v Speaker 14>So even though they're not here, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 14>there probably is Apple people here kind of checking things out.

1:35:58.200 --> 1:36:00.720
<v Speaker 14>You know, they don't wear identification, But I am sure

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<v Speaker 14>there are Apple pbo here because it's such.

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<v Speaker 2>A big event.

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<v Speaker 14>But every vendor here has an Apple element or an

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<v Speaker 14>Apple attribute to their presence here at the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, speaking of Apple, a couple of big changes. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a big event coming up from them on September twelfth.

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<v Speaker 1>USB C is rumored to be a major switch for

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone and also Apple Vision Pro. Will we get

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<v Speaker 1>an update on that? First off, the USB C, what

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<v Speaker 1>impact do you think that's going to have on the

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<v Speaker 1>electronics world.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I can tell you for myself personally, They'll probably

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<v Speaker 14>be about ten pounds worth of cable, so I'll be

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<v Speaker 14>able to get out of my bag as we kiss

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<v Speaker 14>Lightning the Lightning interface goodbye.

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<v Speaker 2>You know again.

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<v Speaker 14>I doubt that will be the only announcement they make

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<v Speaker 14>as part of the iPhone fifteen refresh. There are rumors

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<v Speaker 14>around a much better camera, a telescoping lens for better

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<v Speaker 14>zooming quality that I'll be interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to go one hundred times like Samsung though, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt they'll do that.

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<v Speaker 14>I think that's going to be interesting is that there

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<v Speaker 14>is some rumors that the price points may be going up.

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<v Speaker 14>They may be adding kind of a iPhone Pro ultra Moniker,

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<v Speaker 14>which that's a translation for we can raise the price

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<v Speaker 14>one hundred and two hundred dollars. So I know the

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<v Speaker 14>Apple's not immune to inflation. It's probably infecting them that way.

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<v Speaker 14>But they want to continue to innovate, of course, and

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<v Speaker 14>I think they'll be bringing some interesting technology. And they

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<v Speaker 14>have to because, as you know, the smartphone category is

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<v Speaker 14>flattening out. They have a very strong presence in the

1:37:23.280 --> 1:37:25.680
<v Speaker 14>high end part of the smartphone market, and the only

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<v Speaker 14>way you maintain that presidency you have to continue to innovate.

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<v Speaker 1>Apple Vision Pro this is there. They don't call it VR,

1:37:32.160 --> 1:37:35.240
<v Speaker 1>but it's VR ar headset. You got a demo, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a demo. It's pretty incredible. Do you think we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get an update on the progress at this year's event.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'll see something.

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<v Speaker 14>I think we'll get some type of feedback on how

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<v Speaker 14>they're doing with developers. I mean, there's been some news

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<v Speaker 14>reported recently that the developers who have gotten demo units

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<v Speaker 14>are freaking out in a positive way over.

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<v Speaker 2>What they get, what they can play with.

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<v Speaker 14>Because I'll remind the audience here that Vision is a

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<v Speaker 14>literally a spatial computer that sits on your head. This

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<v Speaker 14>is not just an accessory like an Oculus quest or

1:38:06.479 --> 1:38:08.639
<v Speaker 14>some of the other hear this out there. It's really

1:38:08.680 --> 1:38:10.759
<v Speaker 14>meant to be a computer in many, many different ways.

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<v Speaker 14>And when you're if you're a developer and you have

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<v Speaker 14>access to that type of technology, the applications are.

1:38:17.160 --> 1:38:19.559
<v Speaker 2>Just mind blowing in terms of what we'll see.

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<v Speaker 14>So I suspect we'll probably get an update on the

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<v Speaker 14>developer component to it that they announced at WWDC.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, back here to IFA, twenty six different halls, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty thousand square meters. There is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to see here? Is there any way to see it all?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 14>The advice I give people who are lucky enough to

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<v Speaker 14>come to this show is you have to almost treat.

1:38:43.680 --> 1:38:45.080
<v Speaker 2>It like a trip to Disney World.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, you've got the Magic Kingdom, you've got to

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<v Speaker 14>have Cut Center, and then a.

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<v Speaker 2>Number of other parks.

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<v Speaker 14>You really can't knock it off from one day.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Now, maybe I'm nostalgic about, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>days of tech past, But because I was watching that

1:38:56.680 --> 1:39:00.720
<v Speaker 1>movie BlackBerry, and then I watched Tetris. You've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>this for a while. How do you think the tech

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<v Speaker 1>industry has changed over the years.

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<v Speaker 14>In some ways, it's different in many ways. It's rise

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<v Speaker 14>and repeat, you know, from a technology standpoint. You know,

1:39:10.240 --> 1:39:12.320
<v Speaker 14>when I walk around and I look at going to

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<v Speaker 14>and see different products. You know, I was involved with

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<v Speaker 14>a lot of the early consumer computers at Compac and

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<v Speaker 14>at Dell years ago. And while the devices have gotten

1:39:21.520 --> 1:39:24.280
<v Speaker 14>smaller and more efficient, the battery life have gotten longer.

1:39:24.479 --> 1:39:27.960
<v Speaker 14>You know, silicon and silicon software is software. There's much

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<v Speaker 14>more of a consumer flavor today than there was maybe

1:39:30.280 --> 1:39:34.439
<v Speaker 14>twenty years ago with different products. So the consumerization of

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<v Speaker 14>technology is much more prominent today than it was back

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<v Speaker 14>in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Vina, a principal analyst at Smart Tech Research. How

1:39:42.520 --> 1:39:43.799
<v Speaker 1>can folks find your podcast?

1:39:44.000 --> 1:39:46.559
<v Speaker 14>They can find me on my YouTube channel at a

1:39:46.560 --> 1:39:48.919
<v Speaker 14>smart Tech Check podcast, Very very popular.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's free, please.

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<v Speaker 14>Sign up and you can find me on Twitter or

1:39:53.439 --> 1:39:55.360
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1:39:55.800 --> 1:39:56.120
<v Speaker 14>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark, thanks so much for joining me today at IFA

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<v Speaker 1>more Rich on Tech come in your way right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here closing

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<v Speaker 1>out the show from Berlin, Germany, wanted to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about one product that I saw here that was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people know it's getting a lot of

1:40:20.439 --> 1:40:22.479
<v Speaker 1>press because it's kind of nice. You can turn your

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<v Speaker 1>old speakers into Airplay compatible speakers. It's from a company

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<v Speaker 1>named Eve. They make a bunch of smart home devices.

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<v Speaker 1>They announce the Eve Play. So this adds Airplay two

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<v Speaker 1>capabilities to existing speakers with digital and analog outputs. It

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<v Speaker 1>has Wi Fi, Ethernet, optical coacs, and RCAA connectors, so

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<v Speaker 1>that means that you can connect basically your old speakers

1:40:51.600 --> 1:40:55.240
<v Speaker 1>and make them modern. So with Airplay too, you could

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<v Speaker 1>do multi room audio. You can also pair them with

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<v Speaker 1>HomePods and other Airplay speakers. This is going to go

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<v Speaker 1>on sale November fourteenth, twenty twenty three. That's well, that's

1:41:06.479 --> 1:41:09.280
<v Speaker 1>this year for one hundred and fifty bucks. This is

1:41:09.320 --> 1:41:14.680
<v Speaker 1>called eve Play ev E. I've got a couple of

1:41:14.720 --> 1:41:17.400
<v Speaker 1>things from Eve in the house. They were a big

1:41:17.439 --> 1:41:22.639
<v Speaker 1>home kit producer and now they're doing everything with matter

1:41:23.439 --> 1:41:28.280
<v Speaker 1>so that's the new smart home standard. Anyway, Eve Play.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got some old speakers you want to bring

1:41:30.120 --> 1:41:33.720
<v Speaker 1>them into the modern world, you can do that with

1:41:33.800 --> 1:41:37.439
<v Speaker 1>their new system. Gosh, I saw a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'll talk more about the products I saw

1:41:39.640 --> 1:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>next week because that'll give me time to put them

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<v Speaker 1>on KTLA and then that way you can see video

1:41:44.640 --> 1:41:46.880
<v Speaker 1>of these things. But I'm also going to post them

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<v Speaker 1>to my social media as well. All right, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to the feedback segment. Let's see Paul says, Hey, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm preparing for a cross country trip. I was wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if you know of any route planning sites or app

1:42:00.120 --> 1:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>that would be good for identifying tourist attractions along possible

1:42:04.280 --> 1:42:05.280
<v Speaker 1>routes for the trip.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a story about this a couple years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've used a bunch of these apps. The first

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<v Speaker 1>one is Roadsideamerica dot com. This will give you offbeat

1:42:19.160 --> 1:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of things to find, you know, like the largest

1:42:22.000 --> 1:42:27.599
<v Speaker 1>ball of twine. Then there's Atlas Obscura. This has twenty

1:42:27.600 --> 1:42:31.760
<v Speaker 1>four thousand curious and unexpected places. You can get that

1:42:31.840 --> 1:42:36.760
<v Speaker 1>on your phone as well. Atlas Obscura road Trippers is

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<v Speaker 1>a good planning guide. They have three hundred extraordinary places.

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<v Speaker 1>They also say they've been to these places, so they

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<v Speaker 1>tell you a little bit more about that. Indispensable is

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<v Speaker 1>an app called I Exit. This is an app that

1:42:52.280 --> 1:42:55.479
<v Speaker 1>will tell you what's up ahead at the exit. So

1:42:55.520 --> 1:42:57.680
<v Speaker 1>if you want to find that Krispy Kreme or that

1:42:57.800 --> 1:43:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Chick fil A or that specific as food place, that cinnabon,

1:43:03.120 --> 1:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>this will tell you what's up ahead and the gas prices,

1:43:07.200 --> 1:43:08.920
<v Speaker 1>so you may be able to save a couple of

1:43:08.920 --> 1:43:13.120
<v Speaker 1>bucks just by stop at a gas station. That's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>two exits ahead instead of one. And finally, another one

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<v Speaker 1>is called Audio a u TiO. Kevin Costner actually had

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<v Speaker 1>a hand in this app. This is ten thousand location

1:43:28.400 --> 1:43:31.960
<v Speaker 1>based audio stories. So when you're driving through a place,

1:43:32.080 --> 1:43:35.080
<v Speaker 1>it will give you little audio snippets of cool things

1:43:35.120 --> 1:43:38.480
<v Speaker 1>that happened or the history or you know, interesting attractions.

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<v Speaker 1>That's called Audio au TiO. Used to be called here

1:43:42.439 --> 1:43:45.000
<v Speaker 1>here I believe, and now it's called audio. The other

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<v Speaker 1>one I would I would tell you that's incredible and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been using it on this trip well, and we

1:43:50.520 --> 1:43:52.519
<v Speaker 1>talked about on the show we didn't interview, but it's

1:43:52.520 --> 1:43:55.920
<v Speaker 1>called guide geek dot ai and if you want a

1:43:55.960 --> 1:43:58.880
<v Speaker 1>really smart travel assistant to ask a bunch of stuff too.

1:43:59.400 --> 1:44:01.839
<v Speaker 1>I have been using this all week here in Berlin

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<v Speaker 1>and it is really really cool. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put all those on the website as well. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephanie says, I'm currently going on a work related trip

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be leaving my children at the care of

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<v Speaker 1>their nanny. Do you have any suggestions for a good

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<v Speaker 1>discrete camera that has a long lasting battery for about

1:44:20.800 --> 1:44:26.479
<v Speaker 1>two weeks? Stephanie, Well, I don't know. I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I can condone the spying on the nannycam,

1:44:29.400 --> 1:44:32.720
<v Speaker 1>but if you have to, there's a website called spyguy

1:44:33.040 --> 1:44:37.320
<v Speaker 1>dot com. Spy guy dot com. They made their name

1:44:37.360 --> 1:44:40.559
<v Speaker 1>with a little camera thing that you can look for

1:44:40.640 --> 1:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>hidden cameras and airbnbs and it's called Scout. But they

1:44:46.040 --> 1:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>also sell a whole bunch of hidden cameras that you

1:44:48.960 --> 1:44:52.599
<v Speaker 1>can prouse on their website again, spy guy dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now for some comments, let's see. Oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>so many. Greg says, I took your recommendation for the

1:44:58.920 --> 1:45:01.479
<v Speaker 1>Google Pixel tablet on Amazon Prime Day. Thank you for

1:45:01.520 --> 1:45:06.519
<v Speaker 1>the recommendation. It's my first tablet. I'm very happy. Okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 1>The Google Pixel is their return to tablets. Tom says, hey, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>glad you had a safe journey to Berlin. I assume

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<v Speaker 1>you went on United all the way. Did you have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to check out other carriers en route? Could

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<v Speaker 1>you please tell me the name of that twelve South

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<v Speaker 1>bluetooth transmitter for the airplane? Thank you, Tom. I did

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<v Speaker 1>take United all the way very smooth. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>connecting flight and I had no issues whatsoever. It was

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<v Speaker 1>I love when that happens, when it was just literally

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable from takeoff to landing both times and really really

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<v Speaker 1>no issues whatsoever. Thank you United for that. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve airfly by twelve twelve South airfly is the

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<v Speaker 1>bluetooth transmitter. Let's see em says when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Rob Thomas being from Germany, you said, where's my bell?

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<v Speaker 1>But they had applause instead. We could hear the applause.

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<v Speaker 1>H Bobo, that's that's you know what. Look when you're

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<v Speaker 1>when you're doing a show from Berlin. We've got people

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<v Speaker 1>all over the world doing this show right now coordinating.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm I'm just glad we got the show. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're gonna work on drops a little bit more. Bobo,

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<v Speaker 1>I know likes doing them. We haven't really coordinated that

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<v Speaker 1>so we will, we will coordinate more drops.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen says Rich, I listened to you all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but could you improve your show by pausing between sentences

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<v Speaker 1>some silence and try to cut out. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>and so well, but you know, so Stephen, you do

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<v Speaker 1>the show. It's tough. I'm a TV guy. I'm learning radio,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know. There you go. Jim says, hey, it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually pronounced yeomen. Oh this was from last week. I

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<v Speaker 1>said yeoman. I guess what does that mean? Yeomen yeoman.

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<v Speaker 1>That means uh, a servant in a royal or noble household. Okay, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>someone called me a yeoman. I called a yeoman. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a yeoman. Thanks for that. Let's see. Ron says, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a Note on my Samsung nine. I'm disappointed that

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<v Speaker 1>I've had the phone three years, bought it new for

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand bucks. Now they say they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>support it and do updates. These phone companies expect you

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<v Speaker 1>to renew your phone every couple of years. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>this phone for one thousand dollars should last me ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the Note nine because it has a headphone jack,

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<v Speaker 1>which the new ones do not. And if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get radio like talk radio. Yeah, I like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and over the airwaves. The headphone acts like the antenna.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition, when you upgrade to new phones, you lose

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<v Speaker 1>information and apps. You have to redo everything. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>real pain in the neck. Oh I should know, Ron,

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<v Speaker 1>because I do that like every three weeks when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>testing out a new phone. I agree, But I do

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<v Speaker 1>think phones last pretty long. Three years and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the carriers now are or a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>phone makers are given like four years maybe five of

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<v Speaker 1>security updates. I got to check on Samsung, though, but

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<v Speaker 1>they are doing pretty well. Note nine has been out

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. Let's see here. Randy says, someone asked

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<v Speaker 1>about clean up tools for their Windows PC. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>give you my list. Did I already mention this? Bleach bit,

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<v Speaker 1>auto runs, glary utilities, malware bytes, revo on installer, cleaning

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<v Speaker 1>out all of the apps you do not use in

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<v Speaker 1>the Window. Apps that come with Windows should be removed

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<v Speaker 1>if you do not use them. I would agree with that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, if you can believe it, that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to do it for this episode of the show. You

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<v Speaker 1>can find links to everything I mentioned on my website.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go to richontech dot TV. This is show number

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five. We're still a baby here. You can find

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<v Speaker 1>me on social media. I am at rich on tech.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to see my Berlin trip in quite detail,

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<v Speaker 1>I just made a highlight so if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>my profile it says Berlin It's got the Pretzel. You

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<v Speaker 1>can check out all the cool stuff I did here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be back in the States next week gearing up

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<v Speaker 1>for events from Apple and Google. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for listening. There are so many ways you can spend

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<v Speaker 1>your time. I do appreciate you spending it right here

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<v Speaker 1>with me. I know, believe me. I just read a

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<v Speaker 1>small sample of the many, many messages I get every

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<v Speaker 1>week via email, Instagram, text, whatever. Thank you. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone who makes this show possible, including Kim, Bobo,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill and an army of engineers, especially when I'm halfway

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<v Speaker 1>across the world from Berlin, Germany. My name is rich Dumuro.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you real soon.