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Speaker 1: this beautiful Wednesday. Hopefully everyone is doing good, having a

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Speaker 1: great day. And today I did want to chime in

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Speaker 1: because listen, I from just I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are judging this guy. And it's a human reaction.

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Speaker 1: When you see a guy in his mid seventies who's

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Speaker 1: if you think that Bill Belichick is the only coach

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Speaker 1: because these things aren't publicly, they are definitely going on.

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Speaker 1: And some of these men, I promise you have wives

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Speaker 1: which is very public, whether you're an NFL coach, whether

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Speaker 1: And I've interviewed coaches, GMS, some players back when I

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Speaker 1: of funny. Now, the interview was extremely awkward and very weird.

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Speaker 1: News flash, Belichick gives some weird interviews. He has a

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Speaker 1: long history of doing that. I do think as this

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Speaker 1: That's how college football operates. And Belichick like, this has

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Speaker 1: We probably shouldn't do this many interviews Al like, this

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Speaker 1: if you go from like Washington State to Oregon, like

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's do a little mail bag at John Middlecoff.

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Speaker 1: At John Middlecoff is the Instagram firing those dms, get

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Speaker 1: your questions answered on the show. Let's uh, let's start

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Speaker 1: with Austin. Just watch Colin say he hated the forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers draft, implied Colin or Kyle has too much say,

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Speaker 1: which could be true in the past, but this draft

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Speaker 1: has Robert Solo written all over it. Some reaches, but

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Speaker 1: loved it. Let's be real, We've always had shitty O lines.

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Speaker 1: Now should we be able? Now? We should be able

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Speaker 1: to stop the run? Colin. It's funny He finally criticizes Kyle,

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Speaker 1: but for something that seems wrong. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I talked to a buddy in the NFL who who's

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Speaker 1: got a couple of rings and is a high up

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Speaker 1: executive and said he was listening to the podcast and

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Speaker 1: he heard me discussing coaches. The difference between coaches and

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Speaker 1: scouts when it comes to drafting, and basically the difference

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Speaker 1: of these organizations whose gms run the draft, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Veach runs the Chiefs draft and he has since he's

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Speaker 1: been the GM, just like John Dorsey did before. Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid does not run the draft. Howie Roseman runs the

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Speaker 1: Eagles draft. Brad Holmes now runs the Lions draft with

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Not that John Lynch and the

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Speaker 1: scouts don't do all the work for the draft, like

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Speaker 1: Kyle's in charge, like Cole's the boss. And he described

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Speaker 1: it to me like this, and I'd never thought about

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Speaker 1: it this way. Said. The difference between a coach and

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Speaker 1: like a GM, you know, scout executive, the way they

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Speaker 1: view players is coaches are going to be naturally pessimistic

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Speaker 1: because they view it through two lenses. One they view

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Speaker 1: the draft like a depth chart. Does this guy fill

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Speaker 1: the need in my depth chart? And obviously the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers had lots of needs because they cut and

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Speaker 1: let a bunch of people walk. And they also view

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Speaker 1: people through a glass half empty lens. I gotta work

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Speaker 1: on his feet, I gotta improve his route running. I

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Speaker 1: gotta work on his X, Y and Z, where usually

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Speaker 1: scouting eyes are much more well, he can do this.

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Speaker 1: These are the positives, right. Doesn't mean that scouts can't

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Speaker 1: be negative, but I do think the first part about

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Speaker 1: how they look through the draft as a depth chart.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine ers listen MIKEL Williams, the guy they

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Speaker 1: drafted at pick eleven. He's a top fifteen pick in

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Speaker 1: any draft. He's a blue chipper from Georgia that is

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Speaker 1: six foot five, that is two hundred and seventy plus pounds,

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Speaker 1: who's twenty years old, who has awesome off the field

536
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Speaker 1: in tangible's character, He's going high in any freaking draft.

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Speaker 1: No one I have talked to and most of my

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Speaker 1: friends did not like their draft, has any issue with

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Speaker 1: that pick. I would say his approval rating is really high.

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Speaker 1: There are countless examples of people that fit his measurables

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Speaker 1: that don't just succeed the kicks serious ass in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: in the history of the sport, So no one has

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Speaker 1: an issue with that. I think as you go, you

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Speaker 1: went the second round guy from Texas, people weren't that

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Speaker 1: high on him. Not that he's not a draftable player

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Speaker 1: or could, but people thought the second round was insane. Now,

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers value run you know, playing the

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Speaker 1: run a lot and physicality. But that is a pick

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Speaker 1: that a GM probably wouldn't have made. That's a coach

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Speaker 1: pick because they go plug and play, and I think

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Speaker 1: there are guys And here's the thing with the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Like, beside Trent Williams, which is one

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Speaker 1: of the Lucky's the wrong way to put it, because

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Speaker 1: he demanded basically to go to Kyle, So like their

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Speaker 1: relationship was the reason. And you get credit for developing

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Speaker 1: relationships with players, but like that situation is a I

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Speaker 1: mean they traded a third round pick for Trent Williams.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what are we talking about. That's never happening again.

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Speaker 1: They just don't draft like he has. They have gone

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Speaker 1: on the record and said, and this is I adamantly

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Speaker 1: disagree with this, that they value skill guys more than

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. Their offensive line coach said that guys

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Speaker 1: that score touchdowns. I'm like, I'm sorry, I disagree with that. Now.

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Speaker 1: I was taught and I learned in the NFL, even

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Speaker 1: college football, Pat Hill offensive line coach for Belichick, Like,

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Speaker 1: I mean the amount of Fresno State offensive linemen that

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Speaker 1: had success in the NFL. Beside Logan Mankins is pretty high. Hell,

568
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Speaker 1: when I was there, Kenny Wiggins played like eight nine

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Speaker 1: years in the NFL as an undrafted free agent. Ryan Wendell,

570
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Speaker 1: who left right before I got there, played started on

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl team and is the Rams offensive line coach.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously going to Andy Reid. The reason that

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Speaker 1: Pat Hill knew Andy Reid because he recruited him to

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Speaker 1: play offensive line at Utah and Andy end up going

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Speaker 1: to BYU. Big guys fucking matter, they really do. And

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers think that they can get around that.

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Speaker 1: Now they value the defensive line, which I respect, which

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Speaker 1: is I'm not going to totally crush them for drafting

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Speaker 1: a guy six five and forty pounds from Texas, but

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Speaker 1: I do understand, like Kyle's going to view the draft

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Speaker 1: Belichick did at the end. He just cold, strange, plug

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Speaker 1: and play guard. It's like, Bro, you do not need

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Speaker 1: to draft this guy in the first round and get

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Speaker 1: him on the third. If it wasn't for McVeigh and

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Speaker 1: Les Snead not having a first round pick and probably

586
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Speaker 1: having a few cocktails, they let the world know like,

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Speaker 1: yeah we had that guy in the fourth. It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: no shit, no one needed a draft from there because

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Speaker 1: Belichick just saw a depth chart. I need a guard.

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Speaker 1: That's how coach just see it. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: I think it's complicated now. The thing that I will

592
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Speaker 1: push back against is no one knows anything. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are drafts that are gonna get a's that are

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Speaker 1: gonna suck and they're I mean, mel Kiper gave the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns an eight plus. It's like no one drafts

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Speaker 1: a quarterback in the third in the fifth round, that's insane.

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Speaker 1: Question for the mailbag, how would you make sense of

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Speaker 1: the Saints passing up on quarterbacks with more recognizable names

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Speaker 1: and end up taking Shuck, who wasn't talked about much

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Speaker 1: up until like the last couple weeks of the draft.

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Speaker 1: I believe he nailed the interview, not even mad at

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Speaker 1: the pick, but they just is they just want to

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Speaker 1: fill in until next year's draft. But no one seems

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Speaker 1: to be talking about him moving up past Gabriel Sanders,

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Speaker 1: yours or Howard. Thanks for the daily content. Uh, it's

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00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: a good question. I do think Tyler Shuck was someone

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Speaker 1: discussed in the draft circles and definitely during the fall

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Speaker 1: pretty highly Now second round probably not, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was pretty clear by mid season gonna go in

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Speaker 1: the top one hundred ish picks one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: five ish picks, so he was gonna go early fourth round,

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Speaker 1: third round. So to take him at the top of

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Speaker 1: the second round, you know where I stand. I think

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. Old player, huge mental advantage in college when

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Speaker 1: you've been in these it's not even fair. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the dude was Kerbert's backup for two years. But I

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Speaker 1: do think it's hard to play the game of well,

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Speaker 1: it's just for next year. It's one thing to load up,

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Speaker 1: like having two first round picks like the Rams or

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Speaker 1: the Browns like that. That's a tangible thing, but you know,

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Speaker 1: you could suck and still be drafting like ninth. So

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Speaker 1: I think you just never know. I don't think coaches

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Speaker 1: in front offices look at it that way. If you're

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Speaker 1: gonna draft a guy in the second round, you like him.

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Speaker 1: And I also wonder if they think this Derek Carr

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Speaker 1: situation has gotten really weird. Question for the Pod, who

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Speaker 1: are your division winners for next season? I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to kick your question to the curb here, but I

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Speaker 1: have an even we just got through the draft. It's

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Speaker 1: hard for me to We're not a television show here.

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Speaker 1: I'm not playing that game quite yet because honestly, I

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Speaker 1: honestly hasn't crossed my mind. And for most of the divisions,

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Speaker 1: like I think, it's pretty self explanatory, like you'd have

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Speaker 1: to be on drugs to pick against the Bills. I

635
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: think the Eagles have the best roster in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: So Eagles, like Bill's Eagles, easy pick. It'd be hard

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Speaker 1: for me to pick against the Ravens. This is just

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Speaker 1: off the top of my head. Maybe I'll go a

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Speaker 1: little counter, I'll go Packers, but I think, I mean,

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Speaker 1: all those teams are gonna be good. I think the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers can be better than you think. But

642
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: i'd probably be safe to pick the Rams. I mean,

643
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: you'd have to be, you know, a market street crackhead

644
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: in San Francisco to pick against the Chiefs. I mean,

645
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: they rattle off the division every single year. Now it's

646
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: gonna get more difficult, but until someone beats them, you're

647
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: crazy to pick against them. Though I do think it's

648
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna be more competitive. As a Jets fan, I don't

649
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: even know. I'm just stopping there. The Bucks too. Nothing

650
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: but respecting my guy, Jason Light guy's a fucking winner.

651
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: As a Jets fan, I can remember the last offseason

652
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: where we had I can't remember the last offseason where

653
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: we had have been talked about less in the past decade.

654
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: I see other fan bases upset not enough people are

655
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: talking about them and can't help. But wonder if I

656
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: am right to enjoy being away from the Spotlight mostly

657
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: or if I should take it as a sign we

658
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: aren't gonna be any good. Uh. I think the last

659
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: couple of years were pretty unique with Aaron. I mean

660
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: that just vaults you to the top of the conversation.

661
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: You know, you drafted Zach Wilson number two. I mean

662
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: you've had some just kind of unique talking point circumstances.

663
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: So I think it's a positive being a little quieter.

664
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: Though you do have a talented roster. I don't think

665
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna be that great next year. We'll probably my

666
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: guess if I was a betting man, and that would

667
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: be one team. Your team on paper, I like, is

668
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: more than the Dolphins. Obviously Tua is a better player

669
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: than Fields, but you know it can't you stay healthy.

670
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Time will tell I have a loaded question. This is

671
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: from Patrick. Why do you feel that people think the

672
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: NFL is rigged? I don't, but I find myself in

673
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: so many conversations with people who think that players are actors.

674
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: It was especially bad this year when the Chiefs were

675
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: winning all those close games. I'd love to hear your thoughts.

676
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: I would guess it's a screenshot, so I can't see

677
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: Patrick's face. That a lot of that. You're a younger person,

678
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: so a lot of your friends are online a lot.

679
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: It's a big online conversation. And if any of your

680
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: young friends are in fantasy or gamble and have been

681
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: screwed in situations, you think that it can take on

682
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: a life of its own. There is no disputing this

683
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: is the number one television show in America. And when

684
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: you just say that out loud, the number one television

685
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: show in America, you think scripted TV. Hell, even the

686
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: number two television shows in America, which you know it's

687
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: dipping hardcore, has historically been news. I think a lot

688
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: of people think that's pretty fraudulent. So, and obviously just

689
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: television shows and reality TV show. Think about this reality

690
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: TV which really came to light. You know, in my youth,

691
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean Real World. I'm pretty sure it was the

692
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: first reality show or the first big reality show. I'm

693
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: sure there were others, and then the world of reality

694
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: television took off over the last twenty plus years. But

695
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: I think we all acknowledge and even sometimes I have

696
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: to look at Maria it's like, you know that this

697
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: conversation isn't just randomly happening. They're not just sitting having cocktails,

698
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: just going immediately into their relationships and that question that

699
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: that human being asked that other person. You would never

700
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: say it like that, this is not real. The difference

701
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: is like having worked in the NFL, it would be

702
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: impossible to create. Think about the movies with sports, right

703
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: when you watch a I'm watching that show on Netflix

704
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: with Josh Dumel and Minka Kelly, who's just i mean,

705
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: still a babe in the mid forties, but you go

706
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: back to Friday Night Lights and you go back to

707
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: just all the football movies historically, right from Rudy to

708
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: the Program. Program actually had some decent scenes of football,

709
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: but it's very, very difficult to get really good action

710
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: live in football because it's hard to script guys going

711
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: full speed tackling so like you couldn't You could manipulate

712
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: a player or two, but you couldn't create the actors

713
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: to do this, no matter how good of athletes they are,

714
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 1: which they're obviously great. But can leagues manipulate stuff? For sure?

715
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: Now the difference I would say is this, let's use

716
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: the NBA in baseball, who if they get the right teams,

717
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: Like if you got the Warriors against the Lakers in

718
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: the Western Conference Finals, it would be the highest rated

719
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: basketball series in a decade because it's the two biggest brands,

720
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: the two biggest brands as players. The Lakers are the

721
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: biggest brand. I think the Warriors in a short period

722
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: of time have vaulted up to basically two or three,

723
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: and it would be enormous. The NFL doesn't need that,

724
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: Like the NFL does not need the New York Giants

725
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys to be in the NFC Championship.

726
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: They could easily do the Lions against the Seahawks and

727
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: fifty million people would watch. What was the AFC Championship

728
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: last year the Bills and the Chiefs, which I think

729
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: has been that game twice in the last five years.

730
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: That they are not dependent on markets, the reason the

731
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: World Series last year was way bigger than the NBA

732
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: Finals because it was the Dodgers in the Yankees. I mean,

733
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: the NFL is not dependent at this point in time

734
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: on markets, which is pretty rare. So I think that

735
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: certain things just catch a life on their own. And

736
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think we have recent history of conspiracy

737
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: theories becoming reality that there's no disputing that, and I

738
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: think that word is like kind of overus nowadays. But yeah,

739
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a conversation that's going to die.

740
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your opinion on the Patriots draft

741
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 1: and what you think the ceiling is for Drake May

742
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: I have seen one. I think his ceiling's pretty high.

743
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: He's got a chance to be pretty good. Now. We

744
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: talk a lot about this. I'd say the same thing

745
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: with Kaylen Williams. There's a big difference between physical traits

746
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: and then doing it. You know, a lot of every

747
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL who is a starter or a backup,

748
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: if you get him in a room and they're talking football,

749
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: you'd be blown away. If you just sat Kenny pick

750
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: it down with Josh Allen and we just had Brian

751
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: day Ball, Kyle Shanahan, Andy Reid and they were all

752
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: just talking football. The level of conversation would be really impressive.

753
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: But once you go on the field, even if Kenny

754
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: Pickett knows the same amount of football as Justin Herbert

755
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 1: or Josh Allen, it doesn't mean then he can execute

756
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: and play as fast as those guys. Right, So like

757
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: Drake May and Caleb Williams, their talents immense now doing

758
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: it when there's pressure. The other thing is, if you're

759
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: a good team, there's pressure on you to win every week.

760
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: When you suck, I'm sorry, it's just not the same. Honestly,

761
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: Teams don't take you seriously in November and December or

762
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: human beings. But I've seen a lot of clips on

763
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: will Campbell. There is validity to arm length. It matters.

764
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 1: He's really impressive and I understand why Vrabel really really

765
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: likes him. Easy guy to like, So I mean I

766
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: think he'll be good. I mean now Trent Williams, Lane Johnson,

767
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: Jordan Mylotta, Tristan Wurf's like, is he gonna be some

768
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: all pro? I don't know. But watching him talk and

769
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: clearly playing at LSU all those years, I don't see

770
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: how he's not a solid starter for a long time,

771
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: like All Pro Pro Bowl. You never know, But I

772
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: think the Patriot's got to feel pretty good about that pick.

773
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be overwhelmed. The running back from

774
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: Ohio State, I mean, pretty special talent. I saw Bruce Feldman,

775
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: who college covers football as well as anybody and is

776
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: dialed in, especially with the top programs, the Ryan Days,

777
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: the Sarks, the Harbaughs, the Kirby's. Like this guy, Lincoln

778
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning, he knows shit. He's like I would not

779
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: be surprised. And this guy's been covering college football for decades.

780
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: If Trayvon Henderson's the best running back out of the group,

781
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean after his freshman year, you might even be

782
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: able to say rookie. Now that these guys are all

783
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: getting paid, I've seen a lot of guys say this

784
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: around college football. You could argue like, this guy's gonna

785
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: be a top ten pick. He looked like an absolute

786
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: freak show, and then you know they end up signing

787
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: another running back. The offense changed a little bit, but

788
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: you have that level of speed. He's got a chance

789
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: to be just a big time game breaker. And when's

790
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: the last time the Patriots, they've had, you know, a

791
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: lot of over the Belichick run versatile running backs, right

792
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: Dion Lewis, they had Dean Lewis, they had Folk. I'm

793
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: trying to think of my guy from cal Berkeley running back.

794
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 1: I played golf for the Music Cool guy. His name Shaneverine.

795
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: I played Olympic Club with Shane Veren. Didn't quite know

796
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: where the ball was going, but he had some serious

797
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: power off guy. He was telling awesome stories. But like

798
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: they've had a lot of versatile guys they could run

799
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 1: in the open field. I think Shane Vereen actually works

800
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: for the Texans now in the personnel department. Cool dude.

801
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if they've ever quite had like this.

802
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's got legit breakaway speed. I didn't

803
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: know much about. And I'm a West Coast college football guy.

804
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: This Kyle Williams, wide receiver from Washington State. I didn't

805
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: love the wide receiver they drafted last year, Polk. You know,

806
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: I thought that the the Bucks who drafted McMillan, who

807
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: was the third wide receiver from Washington, I thought he

808
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,959
Speaker 1: was a better player. Obviously Rome was the top dog,

809
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: but clearly Fray Bulls coming in, so they draft basically

810
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: three guys on offense in the first sixty nine picks.

811
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't know this offensive lineman from Georgia. It's funny.

812
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: I was talking to someone about this, a buddy of

813
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: mine in the league. I was like, you know what's

814
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: funny is I thought Georgia's offensive line sucked, and on

815
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: the second day, like multiple interior offensive linemen came off

816
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: the board. But I'm not going to pretend to like

817
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: break down this Georgia guy. But I will say this,

818
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: their first two picks hard not to really like. I'd

819
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: be pretty excited if I was a Patriots fan right now.

820
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean I'd be thinking playoffs. How do you think

821
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: the Packers did with their draft? Well, one thing's pretty

822
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: clear is these wide receivers are unnotice and some of

823
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: them it's not their fault. Right Watson, who was you know,

824
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: in a weird way, you could say he was underachieving.

825
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: He just couldn't stay healthy. Hamstrings were always pulling the

826
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: first couple of years. Now he tears his ACL. Romeo's

827
00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: getting concussions left and right. But you draft Golden really high,

828
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: who's a stud? They drafted another wide receiver in the

829
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: third round. This tackle they took from North Carolina State.

830
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean they've they've drafted well. Their offensive line has

831
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: been good forever, so I'd be bullish on that pick.

832
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: But I mean they draft two wide receivers with their

833
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: first three picks, So I mean those guys, I mean,

834
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: Golden's one hundred percent playing and I think the other

835
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: guy's got a from TCU's got a very very good

836
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: chance to play. So I would say that they tell

837
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: you everything that they need, like we need more explosion

838
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: on offense because their offensive line is going to be good.

839
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: And they drafted last year the tackle from Arizona in

840
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: the first round. So they've drafted two tackles high the

841
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: last couple of years, and they've they've invested a lot

842
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: in this wide receiver room. I think I'm gonna pick again.

843
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: The Packers won eleven games last year and won one

844
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: divisional game. I think I'm gonna pick the Packers to

845
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: win the division. With the NFL Draft, how do gms

846
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: go about weighing position availability into their draft decision and

847
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: big board? For example, if this past draft, the Raiders

848
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: needed an offensive tackle and running back objectively, genty is

849
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: better at his position than Membo, but this draft was

850
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: really deep at running back, so they could pick up

851
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: Membo in round one and Henderson in round two. Then

852
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: the combo Membo and Henderson is a better option than

853
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: Genty in a steep drop off. I think there's a

854
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: fine balance. And this is where I think coaches. I think,

855
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: if you really need to tackle, I think a coach

856
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: is more likely to take an offensive lineman right there.

857
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: And I think if the and also offensive or team philosophies. Now,

858
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: I think where Spy Tech and Pete Carroll would tell

859
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: you that we just had gent rated a lot higher

860
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: than Membo, so we just stick with the philosophy to

861
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: take the best player on the board. My issue with

862
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: Genty is the whole time people think I'm like a

863
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: gente hater. Some of my tweets from the season, I

864
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: freaking love the guy. I mean, it was, it was

865
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: one of the coolest stories in recent memory in college football.

866
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, like, wait, I can get one

867
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: of the Ohio State running backs in the second round.

868
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: Hell I could get three or four legit starters in

869
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: the third round. Are there other positions here that I

870
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: could take that I think are much difficult, more difficult

871
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: to get in the later rounds. I will never follow

872
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: anybody even if they missed on the player for taking

873
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman high. Again, you can miss on any

874
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: player like Joe Douglas, the Makai Beckton thing blew up

875
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: in his face. I do not fault them at all

876
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: for taking them making that pick. And I think if

877
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: you're in that position, you make that pick every time.

878
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: Like that, that philosophy, that idea. But I think in

879
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: this situation, my guess would be that Spytek would tell

880
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: you member a little bit of a late riser, you know,

881
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: taking a guy that we think has a chance to

882
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: be a pro bowler over a you know, some question

883
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: marks with Membo, like a lot of talent, but who knows.

884
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 1: I mean, there's little boom or bust. I think would

885
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: imagine some people would tell you in the league because

886
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: just his physical attributes, you would say, well, why wouldn't

887
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: Rabel have just taken him? However, I listened to you

888
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: literally every single day. However, you got a chill on

889
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: your anti Big Twelve agenda. The best player in the

890
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: league played in the Big Twelve. They had some thirty

891
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: some draft picks this year and two picks in the

892
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: top ten. Obviously they're high end talent is not the

893
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: same as the SEC or the Big Ten, but calling

894
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: them an embarrassment is overstating. At Big time love your content.

895
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: Agree with ninety percent, but the way you talk about

896
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: with the Big twelve is way off. They had thirty

897
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: players drafted, the Big Ten had seventy three. And you

898
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: say that you had two guys, you know, two picks

899
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: in the top ten. Those guys weren't Big twelve players.

900
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter he played in the Pac ten last year.

901
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: Ted McMillan also, I mean Arizona a Pac ten school,

902
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: the realignment, you just got those two guys. I'm not

903
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: anti the Big two. I'm not anti any of these conferences.

904
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: Your conference is not viewed very highly relative to those

905
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: big conferences, not even close. But like claiming McMillan and

906
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter as like lifetime Big twelve guys seems a

907
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: little rich. Your defensive talent is awful. Yeah, I mean

908
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: it really is, and it always has been. And now

909
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: that Oklahoma and Texas are gone, you're gonna be in trouble.

910
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: I'm not anti any of the I don't care I

911
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: didn't go to any of these schools, but you got

912
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: to be able to call a spade a spade. The

913
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: Big Twelve is easily of the top the powerfour conferences.

914
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: Now the PAC twelve is dead, is the fourth, and

915
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: I think there's a clear drop off with them. So

916
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: again not even in my opinion. The numbers speak for themselves.

917
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: If you if you combine the Big Ten or excuse me,

918
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve in the ACC, you guys had less

919
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: draft in the SEC. What was your guy's number? It

920
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: was the SEC had seventy nine guys drafted, the Big

921
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: Ten seventy one. You guys had thirty one. The Big

922
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: Ten had forty more players than you just not a

923
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: great football conference, now great basketball conference. What are your

924
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: thoughts on the Cardinals drafting? And again none of this stuff.

925
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: There are a couple agendas here and there. Hate the Lakers.

926
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: Not a huge chip Kelly guy. I used to not,

927
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think I just everyone loves sark and

928
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: I thought he was pretty overrated. I've come around. I'm

929
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: pro Sarkisian. So if I got an agenda, I'll tell

930
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: you hey couldn't stand Brandon Staley. But for the most part, like,

931
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: there's no emotion here. I was. I'm aut Oklahoma guy.

932
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of Big twelve football over the

933
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: last decade plus. What are your thoughts on the Cardinals

934
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: drafting Will Johnson. He took a pretty pretty big fall

935
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: because of perceived knee issues. Like Miles Jack. I've heard

936
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: different things about the pre existing injury in terms of

937
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: what it actually is. Do you think it's a good fit,

938
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: and how do you feel about his future. I'm a

939
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: big Will Johnson guy. I mean, I thought two years

940
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: ago most would have considered him the best player on

941
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: Michigan's team, the best player. And early on this season,

942
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: I remember, like the second game of the season, he

943
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: had a pick six against Fresno State the ice the

944
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: game he like Byron Murphy several years ago from Washington,

945
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: You're like, this guy is just a natural corner. Now,

946
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 1: the things I've heard negatively about him, he didn't run.

947
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: It's like, why doesn't he run? Well, he's not that fast, right,

948
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: He's not some four to three, low four to four guy.

949
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people think he's like low four fives,

950
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: mid four fives. There's some questions with his knees, and

951
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: they don't think he's super fast, so naturally he's gonna

952
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: get fall down a little bit. And then when people

953
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: question his knees, I think he's a natural. Now I'm

954
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: not a doctor. I don't know whether his knees are

955
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: going to hold up, whether they're not going to hold up,

956
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: if they do hold up. If you just tell me

957
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: he does not have like a chronic knee issue right,

958
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: which again I have no clue. But if we remove

959
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: that and say that's not going to exist, he's just

960
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: gonna be like any other player. He'd get hurt or

961
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: he couldn't. If he's healthy. I think he's gonna be

962
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: a really good NFL player. Why because he is an

963
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: extremely talented player. So I love that pick. Is there

964
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: better content right now than the daily swag and boxing

965
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: by Gruden? Guy was built for entertainment? Totally agree. This

966
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: is why I'm always critical when these guys get hired,

967
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: you know, the Matt Ryans, the Drew Breeses. It's like

968
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: these guys, these guys are great players, high character guys,

969
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: just good dudes, just high level cats. They're not They're

970
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry because they were great players. They're

971
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: not entertaining right, and it's what Brady struggled with. It's like,

972
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: you know, Tom Brady's a legend because he's got all

973
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: these Super Bowls and he's got one of the greatest

974
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: athletic careers in the history of civilization. That doesn't mean

975
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: he's entertaining. Like it's hard to entertain. It really is,

976
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: and it's a skill. Some guys have it. Gruden has

977
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: it in space. He is a unique personality. When he's

978
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: on camera, you're just gonna gravitate toward him, even when

979
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: he's doing dumb shit. I'm one hundred percent with you.

980
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: If he doesn't get a coaching job next year, I

981
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: guess they don't need him because of Troy Aikman, but

982
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: he should get back on TV. He's two hundred. He's

983
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: just too good. Good hire by Portnoy. He's just he's

984
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: just a unique talent. With Seattle taking Milroe, what do

985
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: you think his timetable is? Obviously we took him sort

986
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: of draft and stash let him learn behind Darnold. Is

987
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: it realistic that he wins the job this year itself?

988
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: Is it also realistic that he never becomes more than

989
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: a Taysom Hill type player. I guess I'm trying to

990
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: get your opinion on the fit. Well, you guys got

991
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: is Drew Locke back on the team too, because if

992
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: he is, I mean I think that Jalen Milroe is. Yeah,

993
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: so it is true Locke. I think Jalen Milroe more

994
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: than likely if I was a betting man right now,

995
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: is going to be the third string quarterback. And I

996
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: think what would make him unique because I think he'd

997
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: be the third string quarterback and he might dress and

998
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: they might give him some packages. I think unless he's

999
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: a complete disaster, which I don't see how he's gonna

1000
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: be because he already knows the offense because he worked

1001
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: with Kubiak with the forty nine ers. Absolutely no circumstance

1002
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: in which it's even possible for him to beat out

1003
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: Darnald one. They just gave basically guaranteed Donald fifty five

1004
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: million dollars. So this is not one of those situations

1005
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: where it's like he's unless he is just like Lamar

1006
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: Jackson immediately, which he's not. I do think over the

1007
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: course of a year, if he can improve his accuracy

1008
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: and Sam Darnold does not live up to what he

1009
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: was in Minnesota, things could change things could change fast,

1010
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: So I would say that I bet he plays this

1011
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: year because he brings a running element a little bit

1012
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: like when they went with Russell Wilson last year in

1013
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: fields would occasion come in for some runs. They will

1014
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: do that with Jalen Milroe. And let's face it, like

1015
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: if I like you enough to take you in the

1016
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: third round as a quarterback, like I like you, That's

1017
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: what the whole thing was. Shador and Dylan Gabriel like

1018
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: they like Dylan Gabriel like that. That wasn't just like

1019
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: it's a value pick. No, if I'm taking a quarterback

1020
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: in the third round, like I like the player. Now,

1021
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean we've seen a lot of third round

1022
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks become irrelevant. But I think that they are very

1023
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: very intrigued with Jalen Milroe this year. Expectations would be

1024
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: pretty small. I think by year two, like how does

1025
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: he look in the preseason, because if he's coming on,

1026
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: it's like, well keep an eye especially you know what

1027
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: We'll tell you a lot is next season. You know

1028
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: is obviously depends what Sam Darnold does, but is he

1029
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: just the backup quarterback? What do you think the Chiefs draft?

1030
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: I love the show, and I would like to hear

1031
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: your opinion. Let me pull that bad boy up really quick.

1032
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: I would say their first pick. I've talked to a

1033
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: couple of people, and I would tend to agree that

1034
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: if he was fully healthy, if he hadn't got hurt

1035
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, I mean, I think

1036
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: he's a lock top ten pick, and I think he

1037
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: would have been in the discussion depending on how the

1038
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, the offseason went for the number one tackle

1039
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: off the board. Now they got a guy who's injured,

1040
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: and you know, I think maturity, you could probably use

1041
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: that on a lot of guys, just some things that

1042
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna have to work on, like most

1043
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: young players. But the talent is for a team that

1044
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: needed offensive lineman, especially tackles, to get that guy at

1045
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: the end of the first round, I think they were

1046
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: had to be pretty excited about that. The Mo Norman kid,

1047
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: the pass rusher for he's a little crazy, but there

1048
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: is no disputing he is. He's got some shit to him.

1049
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: So again, one advantage you have when you have Andy

1050
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: Reid and Mahomes and Kelsey and Chris Jones and McDuffie

1051
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: and all these high level guys like you could take

1052
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: some players that other teams are scared off of, Like

1053
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: no one disputes any of these guys talent, and the

1054
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: Chiefs are good at that, and then you just mold

1055
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: them in and then they just you have two options,

1056
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: you fit in, your fit out, because the Chiefs can't

1057
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: make a draft pick where if the guy's not good,

1058
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: no one gives a fuck. It's the Chiefs. We're gonna

1059
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: win twelve games minimum, right, We're in the playoffs no

1060
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,479
Speaker 1: matter what. So it's like if we whiff on you, great,

1061
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: that's your problem, because we've proven like guys can play.

1062
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: They went pretty heavy on defense. Louisville is cal dB,

1063
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: calt a couple DB's drafted. One thing you get, you know,

1064
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: Will Cox good defensive coach and uh bet cal. I

1065
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: think the key to their team next year is gonna

1066
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: be can their tackle position be better? And you know

1067
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: what's Rice's situation coming off the injury? Can zavier' worthy

1068
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: take the next step? Top two picks really talented. Given

1069
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: the available options at our draft slot, I think we

1070
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: got really great value. This is the Chargers fan looking

1071
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: at a roster on paper. I really don't see any

1072
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: reason we can't seriously push the Chiefs. O line could

1073
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: be top three unit in the NFL. Two excellent backs,

1074
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: way more weapons in the passing game. Feels like we

1075
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: got as many as five guys in our draft class

1076
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: that could start not making guarantees, but I think we're

1077
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna take this thing from Casey. On paper, it looks

1078
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: like we have a good shot. What do you think.

1079
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: I saw a picture, and again it's hard to tell

1080
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: with the angle right because Jim, I've stood next to

1081
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh is big. Now, he's clearly I

1082
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: would say, change his diet over the course of the

1083
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: last six seven years. He's more slender. But a Marion

1084
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: Hampton who was right next to him, made him look small.

1085
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to bring up his measurements. I think Marion

1086
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: Hampton is basically six foot two d and twenty five pounds.

1087
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: He's a beast. I mean, he's been really good, so

1088
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if that guy like you said,

1089
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: your offensive line is good, the Harbaugh philosophy is pretty evident.

1090
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: He wants to run the ball down your throat, so

1091
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: he gets Naji Harris, a physical running back who's not

1092
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: as talented as this guy, and you get Hampton, Like,

1093
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: to me, Hampton nase because he's a little older and

1094
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: benistarter like obviously starts as the starter. Hampton's the more

1095
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: talented player. But like if you tell me, Najie Harris,

1096
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: you're backup running behind Hampton, like, shove that down. I

1097
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: mean they are going to run the ball at will

1098
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: on people, especially behind their two tackles. And let's let's

1099
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: face it, like his defensive coordinator might be the next

1100
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,479
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald who went through that system in Baltimore. Super

1101
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: high level guy, really smart and obviously a really really

1102
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: good coach. I think the question mark's gonna be they

1103
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: kept Khalil Mack, who's still solid, you know, defensively, like

1104
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: if Derwin James stays healthy. They drafted defensive guys last year.

1105
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: I think you guys are gonna be pretty good. I

1106
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: think he'll be pretty good. And the Chiefs won a

1107
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: lot of games last year on the margins. I mean,

1108
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: let's say, I mean Andy be the first tell you

1109
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: they pulled some games out of their ass. I mean

1110
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: that Denver game was lost until they won it. I

1111
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: think they had a Raider game that was similar to

1112
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: so listen. I mean you, guys, what was your record

1113
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: this year? Twelve and five, eleven and six. So you

1114
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: win eleven and six, You're already were good in the division.

1115
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean you went four and two. Yeah, can you

1116
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: get that to twelve or thirteen? Obviously the playoff thing's

1117
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: gotta leave a bad taste in your mouth. He lost

1118
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs twice, but you played them well. I

1119
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: mean you lost nineteen to seventeen and seventeen to ten.

1120
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: You beat the Broncos twice, beat the Raiders, so basically,

1121
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: the Chiefs swept you and you beat everyone else. I'd

1122
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: be pretty bullish. Now. Your schedule last year was a

1123
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: little easy. Patriots, you got blown out by the Bucks, Falcons,

1124
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: lost to the Ravens, beat the Bengals, it's a nice win. Titans, Saints, Cardinals,

1125
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: which you lost. Yeah, I'd feel pretty good if I

1126
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: were you. Guys win the division. Like I said, I'm

1127
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: never picking the Chiefs to lose the division until they

1128
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: do it. But I think the Broncos and the Chargers

1129
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: are both gonna be really good this year. The volume