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Speaker 1: Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us across the nation.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to dive into today with you.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's farewell Oval Office address falls flat foremost, and

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Speaker 1: the wake of Benjamin Netanyahu's speech on Capitol Hill yesterday,

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Speaker 1: at least three American flags torn down replaced with the

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Speaker 1: flags of Palestine. The American flags burned outside of Union

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Speaker 1: Station in video that is jarring, chilling, and frankly reflective

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Speaker 1: of what the far left in this country believes of America, Israel,

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Speaker 1: and Palestine. Important to have a discussion about what continues

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Speaker 1: to go on there with looming anti Semitism taking over

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Speaker 1: the left. Southwest Airlines has ended open seating, leaving me

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Speaker 1: shook in much the less serious news and Buck, we'll

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Speaker 1: get into this as well. Steve Kerr and Steph Curry.

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Speaker 1: The Olympics begin tomorrow in Paris. They arrive overseas to

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Speaker 1: represent the United States of America in the Olympics and

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Speaker 1: immediately endorse Kamala Harrits at their first basketball press conferences.

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Speaker 1: That has happened. We're going to track down the audio

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Speaker 1: of that for all of you. But first let's begin.

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Speaker 1: I sat and I watched. I had low expectations of

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's address from the Oval Office. He managed to

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Speaker 1: not reach my low expectations. This was a really another

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Speaker 1: poor speech. He couldn't really read it off the teleprompter.

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Speaker 1: And I told you this, I think we have cut

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Speaker 1: three before Joe Biden dropped out. Buck We had a

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Speaker 1: conversation and I said, hey, here's how we'll go. He'll

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Speaker 1: drop out and all of the media will immediately compare

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Speaker 1: him to George Washington, because like Washington, they'll say he

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Speaker 1: gave up power when he didn't have to. We all

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Speaker 1: know it's a lie. Here is cut three, me telling

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Speaker 1: you what happened, followed by our favorite stars of left

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Speaker 1: wing media doing exactly what I told you they would. Listen,

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Speaker 1: they're going to try to turn Joe Biden into George Washington.

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Speaker 1: They're going to say, never have we seen a more

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Speaker 1: selfless leader. He acknowledged that the country is more important

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Speaker 1: than him.

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Speaker 3: This act. What's Joe Biden in league with the history's

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Speaker 3: most selfless leaders, Roman General Cincinnatus, the father of our

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Speaker 2: This was selfless. This was selfless on a level.

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Speaker 4: I think that's important in a way that we talk

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Speaker 4: about George Washington being selfless. George Washington and Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: shared that same reason.

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Speaker 5: George Washington also showed this country how to step down

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Speaker 5: and pass the baton.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying that Biden is exactly like Washington, but

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Speaker 6: I do think the act of being able to step

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Speaker 4: George Washington in seventeen ninety six walked away from a

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Speaker 4: third term, saying, the essence of democracy is that in

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Speaker 4: a democracy, a leader gives up power, even when he

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Speaker 4: does does not have to.

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Speaker 1: All right, Buck, it's it was obvious what they were

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Speaker 1: going to do. Biden adds George Washington, what did you

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Speaker 1: think of the address? And I know you watched your

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Speaker 1: buddy Joe Scarborough this morning? Oh yeah, did the shamelessness

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Speaker 1: of his obsequiousness there you go actually even stun you

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Speaker 1: In the result.

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Speaker 7: It was well, let me before I get too hot

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Speaker 7: and bothered over, Morning Joe, which is definitely gonna happen.

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Speaker 7: I was watching it this one. I really it is

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Speaker 7: high comedy. If you live in reality, Morning Joe, there's

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Speaker 7: nothing funnier on television It's just the truth. There's nothing more.

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Speaker 7: It's also horrifying because you're like, this is people watch

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Speaker 7: this and think this is reality. But it is funny

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Speaker 7: if you if you're somebody who can see what's really

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Speaker 7: going on. But just with the Biden speech, I saw

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Speaker 7: the speech and the narrative, which you know you called.

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Speaker 7: But I be honest with you, I think this was

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Speaker 7: clearly the way they were gonna go.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 7: The narrative of Joe Biden as selfless is I don't

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Speaker 7: know what could be further from the truth. This demented

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Speaker 7: lunatic was clinging to the levers of power with his

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Speaker 7: last gasps of his bony fingers, and he didn't even

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Speaker 7: get it over the finish line. So I have to

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Speaker 7: buy you an expensive steak. Damn it. I'm telling you

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Speaker 7: this guy would do and I knew he would, and

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Speaker 7: that was why I thought he might go all the way. Guys,

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Speaker 7: they're not gonna be able. Clay. First of all, if

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Speaker 7: he hadn't had the disastrous debate, he wasn't stepping down.

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Speaker 7: And he had of the debate and and the polls

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Speaker 7: drop because of it, he was not The plan was

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Speaker 7: to take this all the way I don't know what

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Speaker 7: the conversations were behind closed doors, but I do know this.

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Speaker 7: There was never a conversation with George Washington where Nancy

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Speaker 7: Pelosi and Chuck Schumer or their equivalents were like, listen,

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Speaker 7: old man, you're crazy, step down, or we will ruin

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Speaker 7: your family. And something like that happened with Joe Biden.

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Speaker 7: Because why did it take a month? Maybe he kept

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Speaker 7: buying time saying the polls will turn, the polls will turn. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 7: But I think it started out with pleading and then

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Speaker 7: it turned into bullying. And Biden is the furthest thing

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Speaker 7: from a public servant, the great the anti truth of

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Speaker 7: Biden's entire career is that he cares about anybody but

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Speaker 7: himself and his immediate family, and that they are gaslighting

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Speaker 7: us all after Biden had to be basically told that

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Speaker 7: they'll pry him out of the Oval office if they

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Speaker 7: have to, pulling at his feet, that now he's a

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Speaker 7: selfless hero in the model of George Washington. They're so

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Speaker 7: dishon they lie so much. I mean, come on, man,

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Speaker 7: they gotta do better than that. But I guess maybe

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Speaker 7: they think they don't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just so incredible to me how quickly

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Speaker 1: they have turned from Joe Biden has to go to

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Speaker 1: making it seem like Joe Biden leaving was his own choice.

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Speaker 1: He's actually George Washington or Cincinnatus, if you want to

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Speaker 1: go back. For those of us who studied a long

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Speaker 1: time ago, I do like the Cincinnatus reference. And so

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Speaker 1: I think where this leaves us is. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that we'll ever get the full honest story of what

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Speaker 1: went down with Joe Biden getting forced out, how it

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Speaker 1: came to pass that his campaign spokesperson was on television

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Speaker 1: Sunday morning saying Joe Biden's committed to the race, and

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Speaker 1: two hours later they put up a statement on Twitter

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Speaker 1: saying he's not going to be continuing. I do think

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Speaker 1: that ultimately there was a final threat that was made

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Speaker 1: of Joe Biden, and I think they threatened to twenty

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Speaker 1: fifth Amendment him, and the giveaway was we'll let you

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Speaker 1: finish your term if you step away now. And I

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Speaker 1: still think there's going to be a payment of hundreds

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Speaker 1: of millions of dollars to some sort of Biden foundation,

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Speaker 1: to his library that will allow doctor Jill Biden and

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden and all of the Biden grifters to continue

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Speaker 1: to make money off of Joe Biden's political career for

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Speaker 1: the rest of his life, in their life, honestly, And

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden was there. I did think it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden was there, and now I think she's flying

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Speaker 1: on Air Force one or Air Force two to direct

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Speaker 1: to Paris so she can represent the United States at

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Speaker 1: the Olympics, which is very funny, leaving Joe behind. Hunter

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Speaker 1: Oval office. Were you at all surprised by the ferocity

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Speaker 1: with which Biden tried to cling to power even after

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Speaker 1: the debate? Be honest, you already won the bet, right, so,

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Speaker 1: I mean, were you a little taken aback by the

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Speaker 1: fact that this guy was Three separate times they basically said, Grahamp,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna shove you down the stairs if you don't

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Speaker 1: walk out of the house on your own. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they really twisted his arm, and each time it was

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Speaker 1: absolutely not I'm the guy, absolutely not back off. No,

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Speaker 1: because of the incredible embarrassment that he's had to acknowledge.

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Speaker 1: This was essentially and I said this last night on

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Speaker 1: Jesse Waters Show. But this was a twenty seven day knockout,

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Speaker 1: and Buck, you know how we talk about now the

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Douglas debate. Still, even though obviously that was a

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Speaker 1: pre radio camera, I mean photo and certainly modern day technologies,

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Speaker 1: we could have recording it with him. It would it

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Speaker 1: would be amazing to be able to hear what exactly

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Speaker 1: was said and what they sounded like and all those things.

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Speaker 1: Even to hear Abraham Lincoln's voice, I think would be

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Speaker 1: an incredible historical asset to be able to have. But

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Speaker 1: we talk about the Lincoln Douglas debates, we talk about

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Speaker 1: Nixon versus JFK is kind of this interesting pivot point

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Speaker 1: in technology where for those of you who recall, Nixon

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Speaker 1: JFK is incredible good looks and everything else, he won

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Speaker 7: I was only that good looking. I mean, I know,

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Speaker 7: I read a good looking Romney yesterday and some of

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Speaker 7: you were asking questions, but I'm just saying, like, there's

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Speaker 7: you know, JFK, and he's like good looking for a politician.

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Speaker 1: I think every needs to do. I think JFK's good

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Speaker 1: looking for a guy. I think he's a good looking guy.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a little crush on jfk here evidently, But I

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Speaker 1: do think that it wasn't only the debate, Buck, I

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Speaker 1: think history is going to judge this. First of all,

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Speaker 1: to your point, I think Joe Biden is going to

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Speaker 1: primarily be remembered as the guy who got knocked out

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Speaker 1: by Donald Trump and a debate, And for the next

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Speaker 1: fifty years, when there are presidential debates scheduled, people will say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to get knocked out like Joe Biden did.

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Speaker 1: You don't want your political career to end like Joe

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Speaker 1: seen that debate, they will And the second part of that, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I think is it wasn't just getting knocked out in

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Speaker 1: over the next twenty seven days, and he could never

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Speaker 7: So two points here, Actually I'll take them in reverse

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Speaker 7: because I've been talking to some friends about this. I

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Speaker 7: think that the defection of Elon Musk a musk from

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Speaker 7: center left to clearly right of center. I don't think

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Speaker 7: we could define his politics, but he's clearly reality based.

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Speaker 7: We could say that, which now means right wing. These

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Speaker 7: things are synonymous, just a question of you know how

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Speaker 7: right wing is one of the biggest assets that we

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Speaker 7: have now on the right in the political con conversation.

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Speaker 7: We don't get it doesn't get talked about very much.

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Speaker 7: But there is now an open forum Twitter or X

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Speaker 7: which what do we have to call it X now?

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Speaker 7: The only downside is we have to call it X

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Speaker 7: which is weird. But there's an open forum where they

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Speaker 7: cannot hide information in the same way. They cannot suppress

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Speaker 7: information the same way. I know people say that's only

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Speaker 7: one social media platform. Yeah, but you know, I'll see,

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Speaker 7: you know, Clay will see a clip, he'll retweet, I'll

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Speaker 7: see the retweet, I'll retweet it, I'll text it to

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Speaker 7: all these different people that I know who work at websites,

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Speaker 7: and you know, all of a sudden, they can't just

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Speaker 7: did in twenty twenty. That's exactly what they did with

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Speaker 7: the Hunter buying laptop. But that's true of every story

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Speaker 7: right now, and your point, it was true of the

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Speaker 7: debate flub as well. They they couldn't, you know.

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Speaker 2: Old Twitter.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they wouldn't have said it's banned, but they would

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Speaker 7: have shadow banned it. They would have limited the some

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Speaker 7: would have done all that crap. And then to your

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Speaker 7: you know, your first point, Clay about the knockout of

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Speaker 7: the debate, I think it has answered the question do

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Speaker 1: You tell me that I'm getting criticized for saying that

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Speaker 1: JFK is handsome. I never Some of the things that

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Speaker 7: that handsome overrated in handsome overrated handsomeness. He's no Mitt Romney.

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Speaker 1: He looks fake, which probably is appropriate, but I mean

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Speaker 7: Guys, and so we get you know, who's the handsomest

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Speaker 1: You know, Oh, that's an interesting question. Best looking man

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Speaker 1: You're really thinking about well, get I'm gonna get roasted

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Speaker 7: I don't know, some people like to get older.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe i'd probably go Senator Josh Hawley. I think

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Speaker 1: I Well, I'm thinking who else would you go with?

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Speaker 2: Right now. Reagan was good looking older.

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Speaker 1: Zure So jfk is the best looking president ever. Everyone

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Speaker 7: News of the Day, Clay. Kamala Harris, Yes.

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Speaker 7: To stop letting them as then all the ads get

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Speaker 7: lit at the same time. I'm just telling you this

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Speaker 7: is what happened.

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Speaker 1: I saw in that Kamala Harris addressed this morning the

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Speaker 1: buy in. Here to me, Kamala Harris has not come

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Speaker 1: up with anything unique that is a way to attack Trump.

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Speaker 1: I've watched all these speeches, I've read everything that she said.

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Speaker 1: She basically is making the same argument that has been

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Speaker 1: don't even think as well as Biden did, because Biden's

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Speaker 1: democracy thing did land.

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Speaker 2: I think hers feels even worse than his.

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Speaker 7: This is a structural weakness of the campaign as I

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Speaker 7: see it. The why of the campaign, right, the why

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Speaker 7: be scared, COVID Grandpa will make it all better, and Trump, well,

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Speaker 7: you know that was the whole the whole thing, right,

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Speaker 7: That was the campag And then the why of twenty

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Speaker 7: itself out. Although Biden made a here here we go,

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Speaker 7: do we play cut one?

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Speaker 8: Yet?

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Speaker 7: This is Biden's whole pitch on his way out. This

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Speaker 9: I'm speaking tonight from behind the resolute tesk in the

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Speaker 9: Oval office, this sacred space I'm surrounded by portraits extraordinary

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Speaker 9: American presidents. Thomas Jefferson wrote the Immortal Words.

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Speaker 7: And kai this nation.

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Speaker 9: George Washington, who showed us presidents are not kings. Abraham Lincoln,

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Speaker 9: who implored us to reject malice, Franklin Roosevelt, who inspired

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Speaker 9: us to reject fear. I reverewed this office. I love

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Speaker 9: my country more spent the honor of my life to

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Speaker 9: serve as your president. But in the defensive democracy, which

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Speaker 7: The defense of democracy. That is still the primary tagline

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Speaker 7: for Democrats. That is still the why. This is still

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Speaker 7: the why should we vote for you? Answer? They give Clay.

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Speaker 7: They just replaced by choice, not by health, their candidate

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Speaker 7: weeks before the election, because the party elders and power

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Speaker 7: the next presidential administration in this country. The notion of

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Speaker 7: Now when Democrats say it's it's just getting flimsy.

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Speaker 1: You can't make the argument and I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to become increasingly clear that as Kamala Harris tries to

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Speaker 1: make that argument, it's not going to land because she

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Speaker 1: didn't get a single vote to be the nominee for Democrats,

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Speaker 1: and so I think she's gonna pivot even more aggressively

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Speaker 1: to abortion. And that was a big part of her

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Speaker 1: address to the teachers Union. And I'm sitting around saying, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I understand that the Teachers' Union, which failed

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Speaker 1: an imbecile. I think she was wrong about everything COVID.

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Speaker 1: She's refused to acknowledge it. But for Kamala Harris to

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Speaker 1: be about abortion when you're talking to people who teach kids,

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Speaker 1: is a little bit of an incongruous moment to me. Again,

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Speaker 1: you can have whatever opinion you want on abortion and

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Speaker 1: be a teacher, I'm not disputing that, But for your

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Speaker 1: job to be educated children and for you to cheer

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Speaker 1: fewer children being born. I think that strikes a lot

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Speaker 1: of people as a discordant tone. Why also, when you

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Speaker 1: speech to say what you think. You'll talk about the

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Speaker 1: right to worship, to do the thing. I'll talk about

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Speaker 1: the right to bear arms, or even make it more simple,

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Speaker 1: what I like the right to have guns. I like

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Speaker 1: my right to have guns as an American.

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Speaker 7: Why do I say the right to choose? Just say

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Speaker 7: the right to abortion. That's really what this is all

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Speaker 7: about for the Democrats. I mean, it is the single

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Speaker 7: fundamental plank in the platform that they will never change

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Speaker 7: and is really, I think the one place where there's

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Speaker 7: pretty much ideological conformity all across the entire Democrat party.

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Speaker 7: You must be in favor of unlimited, unrestricted abortion, or

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Speaker 7: else you're not really a Democrat. You're not a Democrat

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Speaker 7: in good standing. But I just think it's such a

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Speaker 7: straightforward dodge to just say what they want. Kamala Harris

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Speaker 7: thinks that there should be whatever there are right now.

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Speaker 7: I think there's between I think there's about a million

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Speaker 7: abortions a year something like that in the country. She

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Speaker 7: thinks that that number she would like to see that

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Speaker 7: number stay the same or go up. Yeah, and she

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Speaker 7: wants people to have as many abortions as they want,

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Speaker 7: and she wants the taxpayer to fund it. And that

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Speaker 7: is what the Democratic Party believes. Okay, why can't they

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Speaker 7: just say that? I mean, I know why, but you

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Speaker 7: know they should have to just say that instead of

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Speaker 7: I believe in women's autonomy and the fundamental right to

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Speaker 7: make decisions about your future. You know, body what?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that also should be the characterization of the question.

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Speaker 1: And I think Trump has handled this well in whatever

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Speaker 1: the next debate is right now, I believe it's ABC

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Speaker 1: September tenth. The way that questions conveyed matters a lot.

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Speaker 1: Trump's position, whether you agree or disagree with it, is

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Speaker 1: actually very easy to explain. He says that should be

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Speaker 1: left to the states. He doesn't believe there should be

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Speaker 1: a federal role as pertains to abortion. That's a really

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Speaker 1: easy understandable issue. Now, some of you are going to say, well,

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Speaker 1: you don't agree with that. You don't think California should

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Speaker 1: be able to have a different law than Alabama. That's

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Speaker 1: Trump's perspective. You know, you can disagree with it, you

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Speaker 1: could argue against it. Kamala's perspective here should be conveyed

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Speaker 1: as you believe there should be no restrictions all the

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Speaker 1: way up to the ninth month. Should that be federal law?

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Speaker 1: She does believe that that's pretty radical, and the way

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Speaker 1: that you convey the question matters, and I think the

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Speaker 1: Democrat position has become radical. Remember Bill Clinton's perspective all

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Speaker 1: the way back in ninety two was that abortion should

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Speaker 1: be safe, legal, and rare those retired.

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Speaker 7: That was the talking point of the moment, but the

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Speaker 7: party was trying to do something very different.

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Speaker 1: But now we're all the way up to nine month abortions,

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Speaker 1: and most people believe if you look at the data,

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Speaker 1: most people believe that there should be a line drawn

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Speaker 1: somewhere around the first trimester.

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Speaker 2: That's huge.

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Speaker 1: Majorities of the American public obviously different places in the

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Speaker 1: first trimester. Very small numbers support second trimester abortions. Almost

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Speaker 1: no one supports third trimester abortions. That there are there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of things that states make decisions about

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Speaker 1: and they're very they're they're extreme in the sense that

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Speaker 1: in my in my belt clay.

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Speaker 7: Totally legal. I'm an I'm a I'm a Florida guy.

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Speaker 7: No problem as long as it's obviously concealed. If I

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Speaker 7: try that at the same gun me Buck Sexton in

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Speaker 7: New York City arrested facing mandatory prison. Okay, States make

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Speaker 7: a lot of determinations about a lot of things, and

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Speaker 7: we live with that. And that is the federalist system

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Speaker 7: that we have. And that is what Trump is saying

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Speaker 7: about abortion now, and we it is going to take

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Speaker 7: time for people to convince state by state they're fellow Americans,

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Speaker 7: we really need to protect life more. We really need

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Speaker 7: just have is a seesaw of federal ban, federal nine

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Speaker 7: country is not actually there for a federal total ban

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Speaker 7: on abortion. The country is just not there. Wish it

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Speaker 7: was different, but it's not. So that's what we're by state, state, city,

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Speaker 7: overnight thing. But the Democrat Party is nowhere near the oh,

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Speaker 7: it's going to take time component of this. They're just like,

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Speaker 7: we want to mandate to your point, if you, if

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Speaker 7: you could pin Kamala Harris down on this, should abortion

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Speaker 7: federally be legal at any time for any reason and

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Speaker 7: should tax payers pay for it? Yes? Yes, yes, that

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Speaker 7: is what the Democrat Party believes. And if you say

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Speaker 7: In fact, what she'll do is talk about something else.

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Speaker 7: So I agree. I think Trump is handling this politically

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Speaker 8: say the most important person when he told the American

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Speaker 8: people it would take God Almighty to get him out

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Speaker 8: of this race, So just curious when did he get

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Speaker 8: the contact from God Almighty? And let did God tell.

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Speaker 2: Him thank you for the call. It's a great point.

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Speaker 1: In his interview with George Stephanopolis on the Friday after

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Speaker 1: the debate, he said that he would stay in the

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Speaker 1: race unless God Almighty himself came down and told him

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Speaker 1: that he needed to withdraw. And in his farewell speech,

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Speaker 1: I did not hear any conversations with God that he

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Speaker 1: may have had that led the B guy to tap

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Speaker 1: him on the shoulder and tell him it was time

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Speaker 1: to withdraw. Kathy in Texas? What you got for us?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 8: There?

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Speaker 6: Background story. My dad was a physician, my mom was

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Speaker 6: an actress. I was raised in California and very very

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Speaker 6: conservative people, so I grew up. I mean as a

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Speaker 6: ten year old I can remember being lectured about conservative principles.

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Speaker 6: When when the Nixon Kennedy debate came on, my father

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Speaker 6: was so disgusted because it wasn't so much that Kennedy

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Speaker 6: was handsome, it was that Nixon was sweaty and he

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Speaker 6: had a five o'clock shadow. Remember that story. He didn't

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Speaker 6: save that day or I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know what it was.

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Speaker 6: So then it was that Nixon didn't look right. And

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Speaker 6: what disgusted my father so badly was that he had

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Speaker 6: been saying Kennedy's his words not worth spit. But on

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Speaker 6: that particular day when he was he was so telegnic

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Speaker 6: compared to Nixon, he looked so hot and bothered that

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Speaker 6: what my dad heard and what my mom had gone

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Speaker 6: true as an actress was the whole business of what

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Speaker 6: happened after silent movies disappeared. Remember how Rudolph Valentino disappeared.

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Speaker 6: So it was because they couldn't speak, they didn't have

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Speaker 6: decent voices.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that.

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Speaker 6: Particular debate that day was was a watershed moment that

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Speaker 6: was of the very same ilk. It was like, all

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Speaker 6: of a sudden, it mattered how the president looked, and

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Speaker 6: until that day it never mattered before.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I think that's right historically the way we see it,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I made the argument earlier in the show.

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to

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Speaker 1: Look back at Trump knocking out Biden in that June

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Speaker 1: debate as a huge historical moment where you recognize not

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Speaker 1: only the power of the live TV audience, but also

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Speaker 1: the replication on social media and the power it could

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Speaker 1: bring to bear