1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with text Up from dot Com. 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to text Uff. I'm Jonathan Strickland 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: and joining me once again is Joe McCormick. Joe, How's 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: how's your two thousand fourteen? It's been spectacular and the 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: best part of it has been sitting in this room 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: with you talking about tech stories from It's It's that 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: and then getting your new dogs right. That's that has 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: been pretty good. No, actually, I don't care about you 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: at all. That's fair. Okay, So last episode we got 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: through July two thome we're ready to pick up in 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: August and finish out the rest of the year. A 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: lot of stuff happened in two thousand and fourteen, and 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: if you haven't listened to the earlier podcast, I recommend 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: you go back check that out. That's where we talk 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: about some pretty big stories, and some of them are 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: going to end up informing a few of the stories 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: in the second half of the year, because that's the 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: way that time works. Anyway. August two, here's the one. 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: I I almost didn't want to include this because I 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: hate bringing attention to it. However, uh in August, that's 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: when the actor Adam Baldwin created the hashtag gamer gate, 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: and that was I had no idea gamer gate had 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: anything to do with Adam Baldwin. Gamer Gate the name 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: has everything to do with Adam Baldwin. Adam Baldwin, from 25 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: Firefly Yes, and from Chuck Yes. He created the hashtag. 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: So this was in response to a growing brew haha 27 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: in video game and video game journalism. And ostensibly it 28 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: was about ethics and video game journalism. But effectively what 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: it never really heard about that part. I just heard 30 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: references to that part. Effectively, the most of it was 31 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: about um attacking email, video game journalists, video game developers, 32 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: anyone actually really and ultimately it was beyond female. It 33 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: was essentially largely anyone who was not white and male, 34 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: although not not exclusively. There were some people and still 35 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: are some people involved in in the gamer gate side 36 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: of things. The people speaking out who are not who 37 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: don't fit that demographic, but that's the vast majority of 38 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: that demographic. And whether or not there are ethics issues 39 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: in video game journalism, putting that aside, the tactics being 40 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: used by many in that movement to attack that they're 41 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: perceived opponents were pretty rotten, like publishing people's address online 42 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: so that they can be harassed, threatening them and their families, 43 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: exactly to the point where people were seeking protection from 44 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: law enforcement, getting the FBI involved. Um So, here's here's 45 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: my take on this is that if you feel there 46 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: are legitimate issues in the ethics in video game production 47 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: and video game uh journalism, video game coverage, all that 48 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, there are ways you can express that 49 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: that are constructive that don't involve threatening someone or putting 50 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: someone at risk, And those are the methods I think 51 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: people should take. And that you know, this is just 52 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: pulling the whole argument aside. There's some who would say 53 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: there's no argument there to be made at all, that 54 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: the whole thing is just a straw man for the 55 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: purposes of being able to attack anyone that they see 56 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: as being uh not them right and uh of their 57 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: privilege in the community. Right. I know there are some 58 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: people out there who feel like they have a legitimate point, 59 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: and that's fine if you're able to to uh to 60 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: express that in a way that isn't harmful to other folks, 61 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: because the other folks aren't trying to harm you. It's 62 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: crazy how this got out of control so fast, and 63 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: it really showed a dark, sinister underbelly of misogyny, of racism, 64 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: of homophobia, and a lot of communities. Now I'm not 65 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: saying everyone who spoke out falls into one of those categories, 66 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: but enough of them were doing things that certainly fall 67 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: into that category to make it a real concern. And 68 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: so I almost didn't cover this because it is a 69 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: controversial topic. I know, I've got a lot of listeners 70 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 1: who care very deeply about video games, and that's fine. 71 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: I think you should feel deeply about the things you're 72 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: you're really interested and passionate about, but there are ways 73 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: to express that constructively and ways to be a jerk. 74 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: A jerk, yeah, And I would hope that people who 75 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: like to listen to the show would take the constructive route, 76 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: you know. And and if you you know, if you 77 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: have legitimate beef, that's fine, but dude, don't. But what 78 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: if you have legitimate chicken? Uh, then I will come 79 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: over to your house and have dinner because I eat 80 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: chicken but not beef. Alright. So also, well, well let's 81 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: hear all about your holy positions. Yeah, let's not have 82 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: chicken Gate. August two, on with gamer Gates, straight out 83 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: of the gates, and to be fair, to be fair, 84 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: the issues of gamer gate had been going on throughout 85 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: two thousand and fourteen. It's just that's when it got 86 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: the name, right. I mean, my sort of basic perspective 87 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: is I've seen it back and forth about issues of 88 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: of how, especially how women are treated in commentary on 89 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: video games and in video games and themselves and in 90 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: the industry that creates them. I've seen this going on 91 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: for years, and just suddenly it seemed to be, I 92 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: don't know, attached to this hashtag and I and I 93 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: wasn't understanding exactly why this particular hashtag, gamer gate was 94 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: now the name for this ongoing struggle I've been seeing 95 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: for years. Well, the the initial event that happened ended 96 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: up being treated as if it were a conspiracy that 97 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: was there was other companies were attempting to cover up. 98 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: Thus the gate the idea of being like it's like 99 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: water Gate. It's this conspiracy that's going on behind gamer's backs, 100 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: where there's collusion between video game journalists and video game 101 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: creators where for a and some form of exchange games 102 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: will get positive coverage that kind of thing. And whether 103 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: or not that's true, it doesn't justify the incredibly evil 104 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: tactics that were being used to punish quote unquote people 105 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: who were supposedly perpetrating these events. Um, this this, this 106 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: is the this is the issue we'll see. The Internet 107 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: is strange world we live in. The Internet is great 108 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: because it democratizes a lot of things that otherwise people 109 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: would not have access to, like content creation. Now, as 110 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: a regular Joe, not not you, Joe, but a regular person, 111 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: not that you're not a regular person. Let me start 112 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: over as someone who is just an average human being. 113 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: I can go and make a YouTube series. All I 114 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: need is a camera and an Internet connection, so I 115 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: can send that. Right before, if you wanted to produce stuff, 116 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: you needed lots of infrastructure behind you to do it. Well, 117 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: same sort of thing, Uh, unfortunately goes with your ability 118 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: to impact the lives of other people. You can do 119 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: it in a positive way, which is fantastic, or you 120 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: can do it in a very negative creative Twitter account 121 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: and threaten somebody's safety and tell them you're going to 122 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: come to their house and kill them. This is stuff 123 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: that you know, if if you were to just set 124 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: the clock back twenty years, then you'd be sent talking 125 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: about sending stuff through the mail, like threatening letters in 126 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: the mail. Most people, I think would say this is 127 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: evidence of someone who is has got some serious issues 128 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: that need to be addressed. But today it happens online 129 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: and you have entire communities dedicated to finding new ways 130 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: to do it, which is disturbing. So anyway, let's move on. Yeah, 131 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: obviously we could do a full episode on that entire issue. 132 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: I haven't because it's so complex, but moving forward something 133 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: that's simple, putting the gaming into perspective. The Rosetta probe 134 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: reached the comment that it would eventually land on much easier. 135 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: This was, of course, the culmination of a ten year journey, 136 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: which was preceded by ten years of planning to send 137 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: a probe out to eventually rendezvous and then land on 138 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,239 Speaker 1: a commet to help us learn more about the composition 139 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: and behavior of comments, So it was a big deal. 140 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: Of course, it wouldn't land on the comment to a 141 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: little bit later in the year, but this is when 142 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: it actually reached the comment, so that's kind of cool. 143 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: There was also in August a kerfuffle between Uber and Lift, 144 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: which are too competing car service companies. There part of 145 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: that shared economy. Although most people I think would say 146 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: that it's more like a taxi service than a shared 147 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: ride service, but at any rate. Um the kerfuffle was 148 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: that each company claimed that employees of the other company 149 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: have been requesting and then canceling rides for drivers of 150 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: the other service. So Uber was calling up lift rides 151 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: and then canceling them and to disrupt their service. Can 152 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: you come pick me up twenty miles out of town? Yeah. 153 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: The Verge also ran a story about Uber's slog program, 154 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: which was supposedly designed to have Uber drivers call for 155 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: a lift ride and then attempt to recruit lift drivers 156 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: over to Uber. There's a script to follow like, Hey, 157 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: do you ever hear about Uber? What about Uber? I 158 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: hear Uber pays more than lift that kind of thing 159 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: that would you ever think about driving for Uber? And 160 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: if they said yes, then you would get their informations 161 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: that someone at Uber could try and actually directly recruit them. Wow, 162 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: it's the new tell marketing. Yeah, the back seat Yeah, 163 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: this this was this was one of those things that 164 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: that again really gave Uber kind of a black eye 165 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: for two thousand and fourteen. I was also August was 166 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: also the month that Steve Bomber retired from the board 167 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: of Microsoft. No. Yeah, he had to concentrate on his 168 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: sports team that he had purchased. Um, the Cleveland Developers. Yes, 169 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: that was the Cleveland Developers. Wasn't the Clippers or anything 170 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: like that. It was the Cleveland Developers. Amazon bought Twitch 171 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: in August or just under a billion dollars nine d 172 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: seventy million bucks. Twitch is the video streaming service that 173 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: allows people to stream footage of video games as they 174 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: play them. I've used this. I used this when I 175 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: did a charity marathon where I was playing Minecraft for 176 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: twenty five hours and I live streamed the whole thing. Yeah, 177 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: there were periods. You talked one time about how Twitch 178 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: played Pokemon where they had all pressing buttons at the 179 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: same time. Yeah. Yeah. The way it worked was that 180 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: the the the text messages sent into the chat would 181 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: be um interpreted as video game commands for this game 182 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: of Pokemon, and so the game of Pokemon would behave 183 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: in a very bizarre way because there was lag between 184 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: when you would put in a command and when it 185 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: would be able to process it. So something that would 186 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: have made sense at the moment that you put in 187 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: the command wouldn't make sense by the time it finally 188 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: got processed and an entire mythology grew up around the 189 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: behavior of that particular Pokemon game, with like certain things 190 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: given incredible significance, Like every time a particular item was 191 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: opened up in the inventory because of the sequence of commands, 192 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: they can considered it consulting the oracle, giving it this 193 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: important uh state status in the game, which was pretty funny. 194 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: Oh that was just user created too, which just shows 195 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: if you create anything sort of platform on the Internet, 196 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: folks will be happy to to build a mythology around it. Um. 197 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: At least to a point. There has to be some 198 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: sort of hook to get people there. Also, in August, 199 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: Google announced that it would launch literally a delivery drone 200 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: service similar to the one that Amazon announced back in 201 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen. Um, I've seen some predictions saying that 202 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: by the end of two thousand and fifteen we will 203 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: have delivery drones. I think that's being a little optimistic. UM. 204 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: I think I think the the f a A Is 205 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: probably gonna have some things to say about that. UM, 206 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: we'll see. But it's mean, would it really be cost 207 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: effective by then? I mean, I guess if people are 208 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: willing to pay enough charge Yeah, I mean, I guess 209 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: it also depends on you know, obviously which uh, which 210 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: cities have distribution centers there, right, like if there's if 211 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: if your item is already sitting in a warehouse in 212 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: the city you're in, then it may make more sense 213 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: to just go ahead and have an entire robotic line 214 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: robots delivering the package to the pickup line. Another robot, 215 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: the drone, picks it up and carries it out to 216 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: deliver it never has to be seen by human hands 217 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: and human hands human eyes. If human hands are seeing it, 218 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: then things have really changed. But at any rate, they'll 219 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: be like that guy in Pans labyrinthon the Thin Man 220 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: or whatever it was. Paleman was pale man in that movie. Uh. 221 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: September we finally got into another month. Apple unveils the 222 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: iPhone six and the iPhone six plus, which was the 223 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: first phone in the fablet category. You can almost fit 224 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: in your living room, Yeah, exactly. Um I didn't mention 225 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: the the breujaha that happened when a couple of people 226 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: said that their iPhone six plus bent, you know, like 227 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: they there and actually had like the metal itself was 228 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: bending at certain point and denting in and there are 229 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: all these jokes about hipsters in Brooklyn with tight genes 230 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: that were ruining their phones just by putting them in 231 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: their pockets. That yeah, yeah, that there. It would introduce 232 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: a curve that was not intended to be there. The 233 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: story would unfold that it really wasn't happening as frequently 234 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: as one would think based upon the number of stories 235 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: that were coming out um and Apple denied that it 236 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: was a design flaw. Apple also announced the Apple Watch, 237 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: which their first attempt to enter the wearable market. You 238 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: don't count the iPod nano that would clip on to 239 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: like your shirt or something, but that won't be available 240 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: till two fifteen, So it was announced but not made available. 241 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: Tell me more about Apple, Okay. They also unveiled Apple Pay, 242 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: which is their NFC enabled payment system. Also, well not 243 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: just NFC enabled payment system, but that's a large part 244 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: of it. The idea being that you could go to 245 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: a point of sale and use your phone or your 246 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: smart watch. Once you got it to pay for something, 247 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: you would have an electronic wallet that would allow you 248 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: to transfer funds and and buy stuff supposedly completely secure. 249 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: Is the idea being that meets the requirements of making 250 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: sure your credit card information remains safe. I mean, there 251 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: were so many stories about information being stolen that that 252 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: was a big deal. Not obviously a very new idea. 253 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: NFC technology has been around for a while. We've had 254 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: Google Wallet for a couple of years. And in Europe, 255 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: NFC technology is so commonplace that they're not even like, 256 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: at least in the UK, they're not even launching Apple 257 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: Pay out there because there's already embedded systems that pre 258 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: exist that are popular. It was here in the United 259 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: States where there was still a lot of confusion in 260 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: the marketplace. No one had come out as a real leader. 261 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: You've got a lot of competing standards out there, and 262 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: so that's when Apple kind of pounced. Chinese company Ali 263 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: Baba held an i p o and it became the 264 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: largest tech I p O ever that's an e commerce 265 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: site in China. Uh, it was a big, big deal. Also, Microsoft, 266 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: in September two fourteen agreed to buy mo Yang Mojang, 267 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: the company that makes Minecraft. Always say it both ways 268 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: because just in case. But for two point five billion 269 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: dollars for a game that's been out for several years, 270 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: for a company that hasn't produced anything remotely as successful 271 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: as that one title. So some people were wondering if 272 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: this was a smart move or not, because while Minecraft 273 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: is undeniably a huge success, can you can you exist 274 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: on a single title perpetually? Now, if you're Microsoft and 275 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: you produce Microsoft Office, the answer might be yes, that's 276 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: kind of what Microsoft does. Um, that's being unfair to Microsoft. 277 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: Future versions of Minecraft will have Clippy. Yeah, I see 278 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: that you're trying to build a house. Would you like 279 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: some help with that? Uh? Also September two fourteen, you 280 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: know what we haven't talked about for a little bit, 281 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: Joe Hackers. Oh in the so now that we've split 282 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: this podcast into our opening discussion from the last one 283 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: is kind of lost. But in that I I was 284 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: saying that I was sort of thinking often as the 285 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: year of the hack, that it's the year that I 286 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: think the average person start starts becoming aware that cybersecurity 287 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: threats are real and they're going to affect them pretty 288 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: frequently in the future. Well, especially when we see that 289 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: it's affecting not just retail establishments or bitcoin exchanges, but 290 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: other things as well. So we have two hacking stories 291 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: at the end of September two thousand fourteen, one was 292 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: that home Depot would investigate another massive hack against their systems, 293 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: so similar to issues that had plagued target eBay, that 294 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: kind of thing. And also that hackers would steal photos 295 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: from Apple's online photos sharing service. And this was not 296 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: a blanket attack. This wasn't like a rod net that 297 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: was cast out to see what they could catch. It 298 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: was obvious that they were targeting specific individuals, celebrities in particular, 299 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: and trying to get hold of photos, usually photos that 300 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: put people in compromising positions, nude photographs, that kind of stuff. 301 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: It was sad. It was it was seeing people's privacy 302 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: being violated and then seeing the justified arguments. And I 303 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: used justified in the loosest means as possible, saying, well, 304 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: they live their lives out in the public eye, so 305 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: therefore they shouldn't have an expectation of privacy. My response 306 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: to that argument, you just posted something on the Internet 307 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: and it's public, you know, let us read your email. Yeah, 308 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: my yeah. My argument is is that is a jerk 309 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: face argument to make. Don't make that argument, folks, that 310 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: does any sense. No, it doesn't, it's not. It's not 311 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: at all justifiable. It's terrible thing. But but also again 312 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: displayed the need for security, and it also showed that 313 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: this was not due to customer behavior. This wasn't like 314 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: a customer issue where their problems lead to the UH 315 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: to the breach. It was another issue behind the scenes 316 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: that you know, the customer didn't have any any involvement with. 317 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: And if your argument is like, well, they shouldn't put 318 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, those kind of photos up on a online service. 319 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: If you have every expectation that your information is going 320 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: to be safe, then it's really no one else's business 321 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: what information you put up there. Right, as long as 322 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: you're not violating any terms of service with whatever that 323 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: service is, everything should be fine. Well, like we said 324 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: in part one of this podcast, it's it's becoming clear 325 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: more and more that you don't have to be somebody 326 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: who doesn't really understand how to use the internet in 327 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: order to get everything messed up to have your information 328 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: still and you don't have to create weak passwords or 329 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, do everything wrong. You can do everything right 330 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: right and still have your information compromise. Yeah, so very frustrating, 331 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: also eye opening, and it does mean that we have 332 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: to take a more serious look at online security moving 333 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: into October two thousand and fourteen. That's when Facebook Alternative 334 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: l O opens up a bit. It had already been 335 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: active for a while, so it had had a kind 336 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: of an alpha slash beta sort of test with just 337 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: a few people. But they opened up a bit allowing 338 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: more people to join what was previously a very small community. 339 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: So people were getting email invites. You could actually apply, 340 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: and I did, so I got an invite, I joined LLO, 341 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: made a little account. It was meant to be um or. 342 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: It is meant to be a social network that doesn't 343 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: use any advertising, that is supposed to just be pure 344 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: social interaction with users without any uh fiddling about with 345 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: the status updates or news update layout or money. Well 346 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: right now, it was just it was getting investments, which 347 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: some people pointed out, hey, if you can investment, that 348 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: means that someone somewhere down the line believes that you're 349 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: going to pay that investment back. So they can't perpetually 350 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: exist on venture capital because they have to eventually be 351 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: able to pay back investors. So that actually raised a 352 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: lot of questions. People were saying, how are they going 353 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: to make money? And it was a question that wasn't 354 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: really um answered to anyone's satisfaction as far as I 355 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: could tell. Moreover, after an initial flood of activity, l 356 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: O kind of faded off because it wasn't doing anything, 357 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, truly innovative that Facebook or some other social 358 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: platform wasn't already doing apart from the fact that it 359 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: wasn't serving you up ads or messing with your news feed, 360 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: but it it wasn't enough to pull people over. I 361 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: checked back, because I had I was one of those 362 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: folks who created an account, went there for a little while, stopped. 363 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: I checked my account and pretty much no activity had 364 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: happened within like the month that I had been offline. 365 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: So maybe that's just because the people I know. It 366 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: could be that there are pockets within that community that 367 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: are very active, but most folks are like, hey, you 368 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: remember when l O was the thing for two weeks. 369 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: Facebook in October purchased What's App for nearly twenty two 370 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: billion dollars. Joe, before we came in here, you said, 371 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: what is What's App? You had not heard of it? 372 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: You are not unusual in that fact, A lot of 373 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: people in North America had not heard of What's App. 374 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: It's a mobile messaging service that's very popular in other 375 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: parts of the world, not so much in the United States. 376 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: So it's understandable why people would wonder why would you 377 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: pay twenty two billion dollars for something like that? But 378 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: the truth is it does. There are millions of people 379 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: who use the service in other parts of the world, 380 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: and Facebook views them as potential customers, so that is 381 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: the reason. Also, yeah, I guess that's good enough. October 382 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: that's when HB announced it would split up, separating its 383 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: PC and printer business from its enterprise business. So the 384 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: idea of being that by splitting up, they'll be able 385 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: to make much more focused companies deliver upon those kind 386 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: of promises. Surely, October had some more good hacks. Yeah. 387 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: Kmart announced that store registers were hacked and then people's 388 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: credit card information was stolen as a result, So yeah, 389 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't just online attacks, it's store registers in this case. Um. Also, 390 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: HBO finally announced that they were going to have a 391 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: new service that would allow people to access HBO programming 392 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: without a cable subscription, starting in two those fifteen. Hallelujah. 393 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: I am so excited about this because I mean, I 394 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: love some HBO shows, but I'm sorry you are not 395 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: going to get me to subscribe to cable. Yeah, I 396 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: don't want all those channels. I'm not interested. Yeah, I'm 397 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: the same way. I dropped cable years ago. And there 398 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: have been lots of shows on HBO that I wish 399 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: I could have watched, but I don't. I don't happy 400 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: to pay to watch them. Sure, I just don't want 401 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: to pay for all this other stuff I have no 402 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: interest in whatsoever. Yeah, for the longest time, there was 403 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: no way I could get it unless I went out 404 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: and bought an entire seasons worth on DVD, and I didn't. 405 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know which shows I might like and which 406 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: ones I don't like, and I haven't watched them. And 407 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: I I might catch an episode when I was out 408 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: on a trip someplace, but it would be completely out 409 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: of context, Like I, I can't tell if I like 410 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: this or not because I don't know what's going on. 411 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: Uh and uh. It is interesting that HBO has become 412 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: sort of a big name in high quality content, and 413 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: not all of the content they've created what I argue 414 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: is high quality, but much of it is. And like 415 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: things like Game of Thrones is incredible or um uh, 416 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: you know Sopranos that kind of thing six Ft Under 417 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: the Wire. The Wire, in my opinion, maybe the best 418 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: show that's ever been on TV. Yeah, okay, that's that's interesting. 419 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: All the seasons, would you say that all the seasons 420 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: hold up? Yeah, they're all great. Season two was a 421 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: little but yeah, but that was by the Wire standards. 422 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: But you also have like Carnival, which I've never seen it. 423 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: It's it's very atmosphere, but you could tell there was 424 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: gonna be some story issues early on. But but the 425 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: cinematography in the atmosphere was phenomenal. It's just really like 426 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: you were thinking, this might have needed a little bit 427 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: more of a firmer hand at the beginning for this 428 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: to to really work. But that's my own personal opinion. 429 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: At any rate, I'm excited to see this come to fruition. 430 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: We don't know all the details yet about how this 431 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: will actually be put into practice, so we'll have to 432 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: wait and see. Also in October tragic news, there was 433 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: a malfunction during a test flight for the Virgin Galactic 434 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: spaceship Too, which resulted in a crash in the California desert, 435 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: which killed the co pilot, Michael Ellsbury. It was I 436 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: was I was in California at the time, and I 437 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: remember I was actually just having to pass a television 438 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: when I saw the news and it was so upsetting, 439 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: terrible story. Obviously, Uh, this was a big issue personally, 440 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: it was a big issue as far as the private 441 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: space industry go is. An's a reminder that this stuff 442 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: is hard, you know, we we we start to downplay 443 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: it when you hear about the different launch every other 444 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: week or whatever. You start to think of it as commonplace. 445 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: But this is rocket science. I mean, this is hard, 446 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: hard stuff to get to work correctly. And the stakes 447 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: are pretty high, so extremely high. I mean, their their 448 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: life and death. So it's one of those things we 449 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: need to keep in perspective. Not that it's not worth tackling, 450 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: it's not worth doing. I fully believe it's worth tackling 451 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: and worth doing. It's just we've got to remember that, 452 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, these are the these are the stakes that 453 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: are involved, and we've got to keep working to get 454 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: better at it um And so, yeah, that was a 455 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: tragic tale to end out October. Moving on into November, 456 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: we have some more security issues. In this case, not 457 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: so much hacking into a system as creating malware to 458 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: spread chaos and disorder where ever it might go. That 459 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: was when multiple security labs in November revealed the existence 460 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: of malware called Reagan r e g I N which 461 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: affects Windows based computers. Now, most of the computers affected 462 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: by this malware happened to be in Russia, Saudi Arabia, 463 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: Mexico and Ireland. The main targets included telecom companies, small 464 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: businesses and private individuals. And the people in the security 465 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: industry have known about this malware for a while, but 466 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: it was only in November. This is typical only in 467 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: November when it was publicly revealed. But there are folks 468 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: who said, yeah, we've known about this in some form 469 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: or another for a few years, and suspicions right now 470 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: kind of point to the n s A as the 471 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: originator of the malware, that it was a way of 472 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: infiltrating these systems to create means of surveillance. Yeah, it's 473 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: been compared to Stuck's net, which was the that was 474 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: the virus that in the infected UH computer is Iranian 475 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: Iranian centrifuges. Yeah, so it made him spin at a 476 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: at the incorrect speed and thus cause damage to the equipment. 477 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: UM yeah. So there are a lot of suspicions that 478 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: this is in fact state sponsored software that was meant 479 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: to be a you know, cyber warfare tool. So, um, 480 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: we don't have all the details on that. That could 481 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: end up all being incorrect, but that was where the 482 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 1: suspicions were. Also in November, President Obama urged the FCC 483 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: to reclassify broadband service as a regulated utility, which would 484 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: actually give the FCC authority to enact the rules they 485 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: had proposed earlier than the year. That sounds like Obamacare 486 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: for the internet, thank you. Oh no, no, no, that 487 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: is not my opinion. Uh, we revisit net neutrality again. 488 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: It's been big this year. Yeah. And it matters, it does. 489 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: It matters a lot. I mean it matters to people 490 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: like like you and I Joe, because we make our 491 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: living working on a website and on shows that are 492 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: delivered over the internet. Right. What if somebody said, well, 493 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: I make some content that competes with yours, and I'm 494 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: best buddies with Comcast or with whatever other provider, or 495 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: suddenly my content gets preferential treatment. What happens if some 496 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: other individual who puts out a great show, but they're 497 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: an individual goes up against our company, and our company 498 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: might have the assets to be able to play ball 499 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: and pay agociate with the content exactly with the service providers. Yeah, 500 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: it just it creates an unfair playing field. And so 501 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: that's what is trying you know what what people like 502 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: President Obama are trying to suggest we avoid by reclassifying 503 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: internet service as a type of utility. I think one 504 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: way to sell this to people who are you know, 505 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: they're like, I don't know, net neutrality sounds kind of 506 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: touchy feely, I don't believe in it. Just explain it 507 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: to them like this. This is going to severely negatively 508 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: impact your Internet using experience, no matter who you are. 509 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: It really doesn't matter who you are, what services you use. 510 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: This is almost definitely going to make your web experience worse. 511 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: At least, something that you rely upon regularly is no 512 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: longer going to work the way you are used to 513 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: because it doesn't fit into that. Now a lot of 514 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: people have pointed out that what this does is it 515 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 1: creates different internets depending upon which provider you have, because 516 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: the experience is different. So it maybe like you think, oh, 517 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: Netflix is great because I happen to use Comcast and 518 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: Netflix and Comcast have made some sort of crazy deal. 519 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: But my friend has Time Warner and he thinks Netflix 520 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: is the worst because he can never get a movie 521 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: to load because Time Warner. Netflix never made a deal. 522 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: You know. That's the sort of thing. And for for 523 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: a company like Netflix, it's it's one thing because it's 524 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: a big company and it has the money to be 525 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: able to make these sort of deals. They don't. No 526 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: one wants to do that. One of the providers do, 527 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: but not not the content companies. Um, but it could 528 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: do that. But for smaller sites that that may not 529 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: have that option, it's it's a real problem. And so 530 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: that's one of the big arguments against it really is 531 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: just that this hurts business in the long run. It 532 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: benefits a few really large companies at the expense of 533 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: hundreds or maybe thousands, or maybe millions of smaller businesses 534 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: and private individuals as well. So we'll still have to 535 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: see how that develops, because obviously that's that's an ongoing story. 536 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: Did you ever hear of the company area not at all? Okay, 537 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: So Areo was a company that their their business model 538 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: was that you would subscribe to this service and the 539 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: service would allow you to access content that was grabbed 540 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: by one of their over the air antenna. So this 541 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: was just for broadcast over the air content. It the 542 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: same as if you went out and put a giant 543 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: antenna on your house and you were just pulling information down, 544 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: except instead of doing it yourself, you're renting time on 545 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: someone else's antenna to get that content. And UH content 546 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: creators hated this, like, think of it this way, you 547 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: could get over the air content from a region that's 548 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: not your own and watch things like sports games that 549 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: might have blackouts for certain regions, but you could see 550 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: it if you rented it on this because the antennas 551 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: in the region that is allowed even if you are not, 552 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: so there were. There was obviously huge resistance and so 553 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: the companies took Area to UH Court. It all went 554 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: completely up to the Supreme Court. It was eventually decided 555 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: against Ario, and in November of two fourteen, Area went 556 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: into bankruptcy after they had lost all hope of having 557 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: their business model legit legitimized. So Areo is no more, 558 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: which is a shame. It also shows kind of how 559 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: weird our distribution world is. Right, It's it doesn't always 560 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: seem to make a whole lot of sense, especially like 561 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: Ario's argument was, Look, this is content that's free. If 562 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: you have an antenna, you can freely access it. There's 563 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: no subscription for this. This is broadcast. It's not cable. 564 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: This is these are air waves that go out and 565 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: anyone with an antenna I can pick them up and 566 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: there's no descrambling or anything. Um. But because of this 567 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: other these other issues, you know, they were they were 568 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: being told like, well, essentially, what you're doing is rebroadcasting 569 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: something that doesn't belong to you. So it was kind 570 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: of ugly. Um. There was another ugly story. Uber senior 571 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: vice president Emil Michael said he would like to unveil 572 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: details about the private lives of journalists who write critical 573 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: pieces about Uber, which followed us an incredible, a bad 574 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: PR move. It's odious, is it not. Yeah. This also 575 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: followed an ad campaign Uber had put out advertising quote 576 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: hot chick unquote drivers. I know a lot of people 577 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: who deleted their Uber app after this event. There's been 578 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people who asked me to cover Uber 579 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: and to specifically cover some of the missteps and and 580 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: weird decisions that have been made over the course of 581 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: this year. In particular. Uh, yeah, this is that's definitely 582 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: got some criticism, and then you had the response to 583 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: the criticism, which gained more criticism. His response, he believed 584 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: at the time, was going to be off the record, 585 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: and it clearly was not. Uh. This is also November 586 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: was when hackers calling themselves the Guardians of Peace, although 587 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: that was after the fact, targeted Sony and stole internal 588 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 1: documents as well as screener copies of several films from Sony, 589 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: which were then leaked to torning sites. And there were 590 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: suspicions laid or that the hacker group might be tied 591 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: to North Korea, although that wasn't really the initial response. 592 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: From what I understand, this is still up for debate. 593 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we we still don't know for sure whether 594 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: it was North Korea or not. No, in fact, North 595 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: Korea denies that it had any involvement in this. In fact, okay, 596 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 1: we might as well do this whole story right now, 597 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: because it doesn't make sense to unveil it later on. 598 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna cover Sony right now. It just started November. 599 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: It's still going on now today as we record this 600 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: is December, so the story is nowhere near resolved. Yet well, 601 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: obviously they were in the process of releasing a film 602 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: called The Interview Yes And a film in which two 603 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: stupid characters, one of whom is a stupid celebrity host 604 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: of a celebrity news program. This is This movie is 605 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: a comedy by the Yes, Yes and This and his 606 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: stupid producer are. They land an opportunity to an interview 607 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: with Kim Jong june, the um, the leader of North Korea, 608 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: who it is revealed to be a huge fan of 609 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: the show, and are then contacted by I believe it's 610 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: the CIA. Anyway, They're contacted by US government officials UH 611 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: to try and assassinate Kim Jong un as part of 612 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: their trip over there, and they're given the tools to 613 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: do so. And so as the story is unfolded, Like 614 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: I said, the initial attack didn't really have as far 615 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 1: as I can tell, any indications of the motivation behind 616 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: the attack. It was, Uh. They stole a lot of information. 617 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: They shut down Sony Pictures systems. People came in and 618 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: their screens went black and they were unable to do 619 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: any work. This was the week of Thanksgiving, so a 620 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: lot of people said, well, it's a holiday week anyway, 621 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: I'll just take the holiday, and then they came back 622 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: and there were still problems and said, this might be 623 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: worse than I thought. I found out that a ton 624 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: of information was stolen, including internal communications at Sony that 625 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: caused lots of embarrassment for the company, a lot of problems. 626 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: They revealed things like payment disparities between male and female 627 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: employees at various levels of executive management. That also was 628 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: really embarrassing for Sony UM. And then later there was 629 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: a threat that that was kind of leveled at any 630 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: theater that would show the interview. From what I read, 631 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: it was a very vague threat that they just sort 632 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: of promised violent reprisal. Yeah, they essentially compared it to 633 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: nine eleven, which I mean, if you want to if 634 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: you want to hit a a a nerve in in 635 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: the American psyche, that's a very powerful one obviously, for 636 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: for lots of reasons. So, uh, first you had theaters 637 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: canceling the interview that they weren't going to run it, 638 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 1: law the major chains that they wouldn't. Then of course 639 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: Sony itself said that actually we're not going to release 640 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: the film in any format. It's not gonna be on 641 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: DVD or Blu ray, or anything like that or online 642 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: on demand. And then you had a couple of UM 643 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: theaters offer to show Team America in its place, which 644 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: makes fun of Kim Jong Ill, Kim Jong UN's father 645 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: deceased father. And then Paramount said, no, you can't do that. 646 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: Alamo Draft House was going to do this and then 647 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: was told by Paramount that they couldn't do it, so 648 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: they pulled that movie too, do that UM. President Obama 649 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 1: essentially kind of said that Sony made the wrong choice 650 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: to pull the movie. UH. Today, the day we're recording 651 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: this podcast, there has been a story about North Korea 652 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: Internet UM services being disrupted in some fashion. I read 653 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: about it on the Verge. It was an article just 654 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: today where UH in today is December. Apparently, over the 655 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: past twenty four hours, North Korean users have been experiencing 656 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: severe Internet connectivity problems. Keeping in mind that the people 657 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 1: allowed to have even access the Internet in North Korea, 658 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: it's pretty limited, right, But some people have speculated on 659 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: the internet. Well, you know, President Obama just said that 660 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: there would be a sort of like appropriate UH response, 661 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: sort of proportionate. I think those are where it's proportional response, UH. 662 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: And so the question is well as the United States 663 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: striking back against North Korea. That we don't even know 664 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: for sure that North Korea is behind the initial attack 665 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 1: on Sony, and subsequently we don't know that the United 666 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: States is behind what's happening today. But I don't know. 667 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: Everybody's everybody's got a theory. Yeah, there's a lot of 668 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of that. That guy from Office Space 669 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: would be making a ment off his jump to conclusions 670 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: Matt today. Um, yeah, there's there's a lot of things 671 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: we don't know, and yet people are to dry conclusions 672 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: based on that. Uh. For example, there have been a 673 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: lot of sites that have suggested that apart from some 674 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: some circumstantial evidence, it doesn't really there's nothing that's there's 675 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 1: no smoking gun that North Korea was in fact behind 676 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: the original attack, and North Korea representatives say we weren't responsible. 677 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: In fact, we will offer to have a joint investigation 678 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: into this, which the United States declined because one, we 679 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: don't know if they're being since here, and that it's 680 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: North Korea is an enigma right to us. It is 681 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: a it is a country that a lot of US 682 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: are very much ignorant of because it is secretive it's cloistered. 683 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 1: It is got a very peculiar culture from the perspective 684 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: of the United States. So this is a really weird 685 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: mystery that's unraveling slowly at the end of two thousand fourteen. 686 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: It does again portray the the the the year of 687 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: the hack. Yeah, it's another great example, and in fact 688 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 1: it's not the only one that happened. In November two 689 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen, there was a group of hackers, although 690 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: some people don't call them hackers, called the Lizard Squad, 691 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: that brought down Xbox Live with d d o S attacks, 692 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 1: which is distributed denial of service attacks. Um. The reason 693 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: why simpler approach, Yeah, it's it's kind of I mean, 694 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: you have to know what you're doing in order to 695 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: get the software you need, but that that's a pretty 696 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: low bar. Uh. There's software out there that you can 697 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: get that you can use to help launch a d 698 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: d o S attack against a target, and if the 699 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: target is vulnerable to such things, then you can really 700 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: slow down or perhaps even crash that system. And that 701 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: seems to be what happened a couple of times at 702 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: the end of November two fourteen with Xbox Live. Uh. 703 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: And then There was also at the end of November 704 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: a bill that would have limited essay surveillance tactics that 705 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: fail in the the U. S. Senate, although it had already 706 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: been approved in the House of Representatives and had executive backing. 707 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: So we almost got a bill that would have placed 708 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: some sort of limitations and checks on n s A surveillance, 709 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: but at the last minute that did not happen. You know, 710 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: after all of these hacks and security compromises and people 711 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: being jerks on the Internet, I need something to inspire me. Okay, 712 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: how about the next step in space exploration being a 713 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: complete success or Bell's complete success as you can imagine. 714 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: Are you talking about Orian? I'm talking about Orion, so Ryan. 715 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 1: The Orian spacecraft was originally part of the Constellation program 716 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: at NASA. Now, the Constellation program was eventually dissolved, but 717 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: the Orion spacecraft was obviously maintained. It was going to 718 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: continued to be developed and uh. In December of two 719 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen, NASA launched the Orion spacecraft in an 720 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 1: unmanned test of the new capsule. It's designed to take 721 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: astronauts below low Earth orbit. You know, when the last 722 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: time anyone went beyond low Earth orbit was h I do. 723 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: It was in nineteen seventy two, the last Apollo mission 724 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: December nineteen seventy two, and Apollo seventeen went to the Moon. 725 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: It's kind of hard for people to imagine that and 726 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: sit there and think about it for a second. It's 727 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: been more than forty years since anybody went more than 728 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: a few hundred miles from the surface of the Earth. Right. Yeah, 729 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: you might think, well, what about all that time in between, 730 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: but that was all spent in lower th orbit, which 731 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 1: extends out quite a ways before you get to medium 732 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: Earth orbit and then high Earth orbit. I'm still not 733 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: positive about this, but I think that the highest altitude 734 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: we ever achieved in the meantime was for the Hubble 735 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: servicing missions, which is just a little bit farther out 736 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: than the I S S. So, you know, this is 737 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: a big deal. This is us going beyond that relatively 738 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: nearby field of lower th orbit on so you have 739 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: to couch everything in the term relative relatively because it's 740 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: still quite a ways out there. But yeah, but this 741 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: is this is the program that would eventually allow us 742 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: to send astronauts to first a captured asteroid. Is yes, Oriyan, Yeah, 743 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: it has a crew capsule, yeah, that can hold up 744 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: to four astronauts, so larger than the Apollo ones that 745 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: could eventually land on an asteroid. And that was that 746 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: would be important for a lot of different reasons. Largely 747 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: it would be a testing grounds for other technologies for 748 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: us to for the for the next step, which is 749 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: to eventually send a crew to Mars, which is phenomenal. 750 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: That's a huge deal. We've talked about that several times 751 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: on our our sister podcast, Forward Thinking. So go to 752 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 1: fw thinking dot com if you want to learn all 753 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: about our quest to get to Mars, because we've covered 754 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: it multiple times and had some great discussions about it, 755 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: including how Mars is trying to kill you some of 756 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: my favorites. Uh. Also in December, Microsoft begins to accept 757 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: bitcoin in a semi convoluted way. I didn't understand this note, 758 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: I didn't read anything about this, all right, So you 759 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: can purchase stuff through Microsoft services with bitcoins, but instead 760 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 1: of buying things directly with a bitcoin, like saying this 761 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: thing is worth point zero zero seven bitcoins or something, 762 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: you apply bitcoins to an account, it gets converted into 763 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: a different currency and then you can purchase things. So 764 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 1: there's a there's like a mid stop in there. Uh. 765 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 1: Part of that is because the value of bitcoin fluctuates 766 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 1: greatly and in just a short amount of time. There 767 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: was one day when I was I was looking at 768 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: it earlier this month, from nine am to noon, it 769 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: fluctuated thirty dollars in value, from around three thirty bucks 770 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: per bitcoin to three sixty And it was around the 771 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: three mark when I when I actually looked. But it fluctuated. 772 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: When it fluctuates that much, it's really difficult to price 773 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: something it seems like that's not like a currency, that's 774 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: like a stock share. That's what I've often called it. 775 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: I've thought of it more as a property than as 776 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: a currency. Um. Sometimes I get yelled at for doing that, 777 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: but that's what I I really think of it. When 778 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: you've got a fluctuating value that that's that big in scale, 779 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's hard to call it a currency 780 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: at any rate. That That's how Microsoft is accepting bitcoins now. Um. 781 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: Also in December, Ralph Bayer, who invented the home video 782 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:39,720 Speaker 1: game consoles, Yeah at age I need to he built 783 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: something called the brown box, which sounds attractive, don't it. 784 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: This became the Magnavox Odyssey. Uh so this was a 785 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: game that would end up being copied and turned into 786 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: one of the most famous arcade games of all time. Whoa, yeah, 787 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: so the Magnavox Odyssey was the first game call sold 788 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: to hit the consumer market way back. Same year was 789 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: the last time we went beyond lower thorbit in ninet 790 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: so big year n went beyond lower thorbit for the 791 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 1: last time, got home video game consoles for the first time. 792 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: So there's a bright side to everything, I guess. At 793 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: any rate, he's also known as the guy who invented 794 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 1: the memory game Simon frustrating mess. I'll tell you what's 795 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: frustrating the game Simon plays an important part in Paranormal 796 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: Activity five, and that movie is awful. You are kidding, right, 797 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: They made a five. Yeah, they're made. They're working on 798 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: six now. They they turned out two in one year, 799 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: I think. But at any rate, yeah, Paranormal Activity five. 800 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: Simon ends up being the equivalent of a Wuiji board 801 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 1: in that movie. Alright then, yeah, so at any rate, Uh, 802 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna skip over the next little note that I 803 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: have in my notes because it's going back to the 804 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: Sony Hack, which we pretty much covered, I think, but 805 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: we do need to talk about one last thing that 806 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: kind of is a story that branches the entire two 807 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: thousand fourteen beyond hacking. If it weren't for the fact 808 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: that the hacking storyline wasn't so pervasive in two thousand fourteen, 809 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: I would say that two thousand and fourteen was the 810 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: year that the sharing economy really was put through the ringer. Now, 811 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: this is the idea of services like Airbnb or Uber 812 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: or lift, allowing people to kind of democratize these services. 813 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,919 Speaker 1: But as a lot of people have pointed out, these 814 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: don't always come across as sharing so much as replacements 815 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 1: for already existing industry, some of which are under lots 816 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: of regulation. Right. I mean, I have been to some 817 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: cities before where we could have gotten a hotel room 818 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: but instead we got Airbnb, and that's that. Could have 819 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: gotten a taxi but instead we got an Uber. Uh. 820 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: I've used Uber and Uh, and I would think of 821 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: it as more of a taxi service. I don't think 822 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: of it as like something of the sharing economy. I 823 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: think of it as a replacement for a taxi service. 824 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 1: And and that's the that's the issue. Right, You've got 825 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 1: these other industries like the taxi the taxi industry saying, look, 826 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: we have to obey by this these regulations that have 827 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: been put down on us. These guys don't have that. 828 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,879 Speaker 1: They are operating under a different set of rules, and 829 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: it's not fair to us. And you know, you could argue, well, 830 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: the taxi industry, that's not really fair because it's you 831 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,439 Speaker 1: might have multiple companies, but really it's the only game 832 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: in town, right. They're all so closely related that you 833 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: can't you can't really judge one against the other to say, oh, well, 834 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: I'll go with this one because it's a better deal 835 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: for me or whatever. However, if you have a business 836 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: move in that's essentially doing the same thing but doesn't 837 00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: have to obey the rules, that's not really fair either. 838 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: So there's there's this ongoing discussion about one does it 839 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: really does it really make sense to call it a 840 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 1: sharing economy too? How do we regulate this? How does 841 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: how do we make sure that they're obeying the rules 842 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: the way we've said, these other companies have to obey 843 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: the rules. So, um, if it hadn't been for all 844 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: the hacks, I think that that's really what we'll be 845 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: talking about the most today. But the hacks take president obviously. 846 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're more spectacular, and they really do 847 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,800 Speaker 1: impact us. I mean everybody, not just the big companies 848 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: that got targeted. Oh no, I mean when the companies 849 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 1: were targeted, it was a lot of times consumers who 850 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: were the real target that they were the the hackers 851 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 1: were either trying to influence consumer behavior, public opinion, or 852 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: we're trying to get consumer data in order to make 853 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,879 Speaker 1: use of that. Um. I mean, it's something that we're 854 00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: all facing. It's the the year of cyber insecurity, right right, 855 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: So you know that kind of wraps up the year 856 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 1: that I mean, that was a pair of episodes to 857 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 1: really go into those big stories. Joe, is there anything 858 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: else about two thousand and fourteen that you just feel that, 859 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't didn't address that needs to be said. 860 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,760 Speaker 1: I would say something clever here, but there's nothing clever 861 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: in my entire brain. Yeah, I'm I'm at that to 862 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: be fair, Joe. We are at the end of this 863 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: year and it has been a really tough, awesome, but 864 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 1: tough year. So we're we're starting to feel it. We're 865 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: slogging through the last few days of two thousand and fourteen. 866 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: Why don't you talk us out, sir. I will. So 867 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 1: here's one thing I would say that we have to 868 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: look forward to in two thousand and fifteen. Uh, you 869 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: guys may not be aware of this, but how stuff 870 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: works dot Com, we are relocating our office. We're moving 871 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 1: to a totally different part of town. We're still still 872 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 1: going to be in Atlanta, but it's we're really excited 873 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: about the new office space are our podcast studio is 874 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 1: going to be a little more cozy, a little less 875 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: exposed to the sirens of outside. Yeah, if you've heard 876 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: any sirens today in this podcast, then Uh. We hope 877 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 1: that because the new audio studios are going to be 878 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: internal rooms, they're not going to share a wall with 879 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: it the outside wall, that we won't have that problem anymore. 880 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: So we're looking forward to that. We're looking forward to 881 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 1: having two different video studios to shoot in, not just one. 882 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: We're looking forward to being directly over a collection of 883 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: amazing sounding restaurants. They're all going to be really close 884 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: to us. So it's we're really excited. So in two 885 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen, after we get through the first month 886 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: or so, you're going to hear probably some enthusiasm and 887 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: your various how stuff Works podcasts that you listen to 888 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 1: that hasn't been there for a while, simply because we're 889 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: all going to be excited about our new digs. So 890 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: keep an ear out for that. And maybe at some 891 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: point we'll do a neat little video tour of the office, 892 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: kind of like the way Chuck did when we moved 893 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,280 Speaker 1: into the space where in Now. That would be fun. 894 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: I think to do that once we've got it laid out, 895 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: because we're gonna have an amazing table. We've heard so 896 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: much about this table. We're going to have the question 897 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: mark table. Oh yeah, question mark table. It's shaped like 898 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: a question mark. Yeah. We'll have us all walking around 899 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,919 Speaker 1: asking why yeah, or or someone sitting at the top 900 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: curve of the question mark called dr Evil style and 901 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: laughing maniacally. That's somebody trying to sit across from him. 902 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 1: But I called I called Dibbs. All right, Well, that 903 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,280 Speaker 1: wraps up this discussion. Guys. If you have any suggestions 904 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: for a future episodes of tech Stuff, please let us know. 905 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: Send us an email the addresses tech stuff at how 906 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 1: stuffworks dot com. You can drop me a line on Twitter, Facebook, 907 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 1: or Tumbler. The handle there is tech Stuff hs W. Joe, 908 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,359 Speaker 1: I didn't ask you in the last episode. Where can 909 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 1: people find your stuff? Well, you can head over to 910 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,359 Speaker 1: fw thinking dot com where I am one of the 911 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,080 Speaker 1: co hosts of the podcast there along with Jonathan and 912 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 1: Lauren Vogelbaum, and you can find the videos we do 913 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: for Forward Thinking and the blog posts. And also I 914 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: write for House to Works video So if you want 915 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: to check out brain Stuff show dot com or are 916 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 1: what the Stuff videos on our on the House to 917 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 1: Works YouTube channel, I'm there as well. Awesome. And then 918 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 1: occasionally you pop up another series like I remember seeing 919 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: you on the Food Series as a oh yeah, sauce aficionado. 920 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 1: You know, one time I ate the hottest pepper in 921 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 1: the world and got some video of it and that 922 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: was exciting. I showed up on YouTube. It was great. 923 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: It was great. So thank you so much Joe for 924 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 1: joining me. Hey, guys, I just need to add one 925 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: little thing. At the end of this episode. I know 926 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 1: some of you will be at ce S two thousand fifteen, 927 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 1: and I wanted to invite you to swing by and 928 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: say hello to me. I'll be at the Sharp Booth 929 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 1: on Tuesday and Wednesday checking out the cool stuff they're 930 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 1: unveiling this year. Now, I made a stuper secret pinky 931 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: swear not to reveal the goodies will be showing, but 932 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: let's just say jaws are going to drop. Sharp will 933 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: be in the Central Hall Booth eleven O one eight, 934 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 1: and I heard they'll also be giving away some exciting 935 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: prizes from their new two thousand fifteen lineup. I look 936 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,760 Speaker 1: forward to seeing you guys there. To learn more about 937 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: all of the exciting things Sharp is doing, follow the 938 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: hashtag Sharp c E S. 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