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Speaker 3: My friend threw me out of my own.

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Speaker 2: Business about severance.

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Speaker 3: This happened five years ago, and only in the past

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Speaker 3: few months have I finally gotten the missing puzzle piece

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Speaker 3: that made it all make sense. My beloved husband passed away,

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Speaker 3: leaving me with two teens in private school, a hefty mortgage,

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Speaker 3: home parents. I got myself back to work my main

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Speaker 3: a weekend bartender at a golf club that my friend ran.

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Speaker 2: All right, lots of lots of jobs, lots of tips

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Speaker 2: and uh a lot of old old tips. You gotta

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Speaker 3: Oh, the head bartender took a liking to me and

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Speaker 3: taught me how to run a successful bar. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Riley, I'm Keon and Op.

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Speaker 3: Was working three jobs and it was tiring, but it

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Speaker 3: helped keep my mind occupied instead of constantly grieving, and

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Speaker 3: gave me peace of mind knowing my bills were paid

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Speaker 3: and my kids were fed. After about two years, I

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Speaker 3: began developing a friendship with Yan Jan. With Jan, a

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Speaker 3: woman who came to the golf club with her husband,

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Speaker 3: we got close and spent pretty much all of our

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Speaker 3: about everything. One of the things we discussed was opening

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Speaker 2: Guys talk about any swinging, ooh off books.

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Speaker 3: Oh h wink wink. Then her husband bought an investment

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Speaker 3: property with a small building that would be perfect for

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Speaker 3: to us if we wanted to make our dream a reality.

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Speaker 3: We immediately drew up a business plan, got a bank loan,

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Speaker 3: small kitchen for bar food. Sounds great, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: sounds like you've got a great situation going. I we

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Speaker 3: shopped commercial supply stores for furnishings. I commissioned a custom barlight,

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Speaker 3: I already knew. I stress that I did these things

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Speaker 3: because it was all me. Jan refused to make any decisions,

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Speaker 3: constantly saying, here are the one with experience. I'll go

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Speaker 3: three jobs, raising teenagers and gathering supplierless and employee contacts.

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Speaker 3: Oh but everything else me. I stayed on the contractor,

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Speaker 3: Both Jan and I were present and all was well.

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Speaker 3: Then Jan's husband Ed started hanging out there, and that's

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Speaker 2: Right row and then there was more pineapples showing around.

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Speaker 2: Started seeing a lot of people swinging. There a lot

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Speaker 3: Time they'd come it'd be a different match set.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the couple wouldn't leave with each other, they'd always

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Speaker 4: Everyone's ordering pina coladas.

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Speaker 3: First. He wanted to drink for free, then treat all

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Speaker 3: lease payments. Fair enough. Then I came in one morning

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Speaker 3: to find Jan Ed and Ed's friends Sam huddled over

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Speaker 3: who was a chef and admittedly a good one, had

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Speaker 3: been hired and our little kitchen would be expanding from

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Speaker 2: Oh dude, wait, if you do that, you know how

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Speaker 2: much licensing you need for that? It's a lot, yeah,

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Speaker 3: You have to get food food handling licenses and that's

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Speaker 3: You should definitely, you know, be talking to Ope if

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Speaker 3: she's your business partner. I protested, because our kitchen was

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Speaker 3: The cost would be considerably higher for food and Sam's salary,

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Speaker 3: and no one discussed this with me as an equal partner.

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Speaker 3: Jan begged me to give it a try, talking about

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Speaker 3: all the reasons it would be great, and I agreed.

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Speaker 2: Mistake Yeah, because on top of getting you know, the

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Speaker 3: You have to revamp the kitchen, presumably if you don't

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Speaker 2: Food, hosts, waiters, waitresses. It's adding like another like twenty

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Speaker 3: Perhaps, but I got the definite feeling this was all

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Speaker 3: Ed and Jan's desperate need to please her overbearing, controlling husband.

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Speaker 3: I made it very clear within Ed's earshot that I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't tolerate any more big decisions being made without my input.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't nasty, but I was clear and firm. After that,

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Speaker 3: things changed. Ed was constantly around monitoring me in some

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Speaker 3: would be successful, then straight to the bar until close.

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Speaker 3: It was rough. When I confronted Jan about her lack

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Speaker 3: so I should be more available.

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Speaker 3: Dan, oh, he never wanted this to get as big

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Speaker 2: It was Jan, I don't know. If you're trying to

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Speaker 2: expl It has to be more in the It has

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Speaker 2: to be more the amount than you working your teaching

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Speaker 2: don't know, a little bit more than that.

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Speaker 3: Casey Roberts says, this is how small businesses fail. They

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it happen.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't happy, but couldn't let the place go without management,

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Speaker 3: Fortunately it was doing okay, okay, cool. Things rolled on

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Speaker 3: We didn't talk much during that time, but I could

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Speaker 3: tell Jan and Ed we're having problems. They'd quietly argue

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Speaker 2: En, Oh sorry sorry. So like the thing with like

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Speaker 3: Aspect, I'm kind of a friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they did, but over a business thing, over a

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Speaker 3: They were friends before the business venture, and that's and

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Speaker 3: then they did it. Yeah, so they were friends, you're right.

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Speaker 2: I just think sometimes couples want to do everything together

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Speaker 2: and then it's like, oh, we're having problems, we'll start

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Speaker 2: a business that'll fix it. Yeah, oh, we have money

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Speaker 2: and resources. 's throw it at this, throw it at that.

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Speaker 2: Rather than have a pet or have a kid, try and.

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Speaker 3: Create something that'll tie you together. It's the kid you're

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Speaker 3: being pulled apart, exactly.

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Speaker 4: The biggest one is the kid one, and that's the

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Speaker 4: worst one in my kid fix so we'll save our relationship, right, Oh,

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Speaker 4: that's what.

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Speaker 2: The Lobster's All about It's actually a really good film.

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Speaker 2: Oh you should watch it.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard of this.

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Speaker 2: You would love it.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Then my mother broke her hip. I had to

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Speaker 3: take off about three weeks to take care of her.

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Speaker 3: There was no one else. I told Jan, and she

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Speaker 3: stepped up, Thank goodness, or so I thought at the time.

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Speaker 3: Over half the people I'd carefully selected were gone, replaced

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Speaker 3: with people I recognized as former customers. Basically barflies. If

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Speaker 3: you know not to drink while working. It causes mistakes

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Speaker 3: and it isn't a good look. That happened within three

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Speaker 3: weeks the place was a mess, and I found that

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Speaker 3: these employees were having after our parties, mostly on our dime,

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Speaker 3: If you have any more, say like, if you have

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Speaker 2: No, how am I stolen money when I'm taking care

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Speaker 2: of my mom?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't even here.

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Speaker 2: What did you see me?

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Speaker 3: I asked them to show proof I stole from myself

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Speaker 3: of all things, which they couldn't because I didn't. I

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Speaker 3: suggested they'd take a closer look at their bartenders and

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Speaker 3: since I'd been telling them booze and food items certainly

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Speaker 3: were for a while. I told them, yes, I had

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Speaker 3: been rude to a couple of customers. One was a

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Speaker 3: man I saw with his hand on a seventeen year

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Speaker 3: the mayor's son conducting a substance deal on the deck

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Speaker 3: what I was protecting our employees and businesses. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: need to like get these people out, dude, literally like

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Speaker 3: get them all out. Start over.

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Speaker 2: Can you call Gordon Ramsey? Yeah, makeover. Wait, there's another

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Speaker 4: Rescue I knew exactly. I was like, yeah, this is

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Speaker 3: I thought about what life would be like constantly fighting

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Speaker 3: against this, and decided my piece was worth more than

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Speaker 3: a place i'd have to constantly fight to keep as

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Speaker 3: it should be. I agreed to let them buy my

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Speaker 2: Who you start a business with, because I doubt that

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Speaker 3: It feels like copeded everything and she did the business plan,

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Speaker 2: Yay, my friends ditched my party over a cat?

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Speaker 2: Bert was my closest friend. We played video games together

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Speaker 2: Martha and I had traveled to another state for a

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Speaker 2: You're in a love triangle. Ope. Oh, Honestly, if I

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Speaker 2: for what happened. I planned a birthday camping trip from

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never done that. I have a lot of

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, that's met.

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Speaker 3: You can skip through it.

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Speaker 4: It's literally my likes and like, all right, well just

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I have a specific like, it's a playlist

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Speaker 2: So you put a playlist together for that time and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just my likes. Literally my likes is just like,

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Speaker 2: And you're like cool, anyways, give me out of this room.

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Speaker 4: How many playlists do you got?

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Speaker 2: You want to know?

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Speaker 2: I literally within the last yearly ten, I'm Batman Happier

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Speaker 2: Active Xploration twenty five, Date Night, Spring of twenty five, Undertones,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's too many playlists.

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Speaker 2: It's all that these are happening over years. Look, look

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Speaker 2: I have one called I'm Batman. Whatever I'm feeling like,

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Speaker 2: want to cause issues, so I just wish them luck

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00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: and figured i'd wait out a bit longer. An hour passes,

442
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 2: no updates. Carl and I didn't know what to do.

443
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 2: My mom speculated that either Martha or Brienna let the

444
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 2: cat out on purpose because Martha wanted to drive herself.

445
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: I didn't believe in this theory initially, but everything that

446
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: happened afterward makes me wonder. Two hours after our plan

447
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: departure time, Carl and I decided we had to go.

448
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 2: Martha texted saying they'd leave as soon as the cat

449
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: came back inside. I would keep searching, even if they

450
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: had to stay up super late. We drove to the campsite,

451
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 2: set up the huge timp my parents bought for everyone

452
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: to share, and hung out with my family. Still no

453
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 2: updates from the trio. Then it got dark. We realized

454
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 2: they weren't coming that night, but they promised they'd be

455
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: there eventually whenever they got the cat inside. Because that

456
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: cat meant everything to Rihanna, Paul and I were understanding

457
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 2: about this, as much as it made me sad we

458
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 2: didn't get to drive up together.

459
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 3: Where is this cat?

460
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: I look forward for them on Saturday? Yeah, dude, my

461
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 2: cat peeps. What's going on here?

462
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 3: I'm confused? Did they like, do they know where the

463
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: cat is? Did they lose the cat?

464
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: They just ran outside and they're trying to chase after it.

465
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 3: But I'm like, if you know where the cat is,

466
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 3: how is it this hard?

467
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: Also, it's like an overweight cat too.

468
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 3: How are you this bad at catching a cat? Like

469
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 3: if the cat got out and ran away and you

470
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 3: guys were like, I don't know where the cat is,

471
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: but if you know, like you can see the cat.

472
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree as someone I don't catch cats. What

473
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: I can catch mice. I've caught multiple. The one that

474
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 2: took me the longest was twenty minutes.

475
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

476
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: Anyways, Saturday morning, no overnight updates. I texted and bothered

477
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: them until I finally got a response saying they hadn't

478
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 2: gotten the cat inside, but knew he was in the

479
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 2: neighbor's yard. They tried coaxing him with treats, but he

480
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 2: wouldn't come over. I suggested letting their mom help since

481
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: she'd offer, but Brianna refused to leave her cat. Bert

482
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: Martha also refused to leave Brianna alone because the cat

483
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: meant so much to her.

484
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,239
Speaker 3: What is this that makes it? Are you giving her

485
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 3: emotional support while she tries and catches her cat? She's

486
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: not lost, the cat's just outside. Get the cat? You don't.

487
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 3: You don't need three people to try and get this cat.

488
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: And there's so many more effective means.

489
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 3: To this, so many more like what this is so stupid? Yeah,

490
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 3: Casey Roberts says, this is the worst live ever heard.

491
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: Agreed. I was about to say. We got through the

492
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: entire day with barely any updates, and another day passed

493
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 2: without them showing up. My family and Carl were pissed,

494
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: but I tried seeing the best of my friends. They

495
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 2: had been my friends for so long, and I felt hurt.

496
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: They all ditched me over a cat whose whereabouts they

497
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 2: knew he just wasn't inside. Didn't want to believe they

498
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: had malicious intent. That's what my entire family thought, though.

499
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: Sunday arrives the last day of my birthday trip with

500
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: little to no updates and growing anger over how crappy

501
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: the situation was. Carl decided to be the bad guy

502
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: and called him out. He sent a long paragraph to

503
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: our group chat about what they did was extremely crappy

504
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 2: and hurtful that all three chose a cat over my

505
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: eighteenth birthday brand It took great offense and started calling

506
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: Carl mean names and said he had no empathy because

507
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: this cat saved her life. They argued back and forth,

508
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: with Martha occasionally jumping in to back up Rihanna burn

509
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: I mostly stayed on the sidelines reading the messages. Eventually,

510
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: things got absolutely nasty. Brandon and Martha ganged up on

511
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 2: Carl with deep personal attacks. After he tried sticking up

512
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: for me, he returned the energy full forced and it

513
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: spiraled quickly.

514
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: Ay yay, yay.

515
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: So what I've learned, and I've said this last week,

516
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: but what I've learned with horror movies is usually if

517
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: you pick out the monster or like, you know, whatever

518
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 2: the bad thing is in the movie, and whatever's left

519
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: is actually what the movie's about. Yeah, I feel like

520
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 2: if you take this cat out of the situation, yeah

521
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: that's what the whole thing's about.

522
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys have bad friends and it's.

523
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: Tough, Like I have a friend that's struggling to connect

524
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: with the people he grew up with in high school.

525
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, over Tom, you just don't mesh together apart.

526
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are at like you're all eighteen, So

527
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: you're at this kind of big crossroads in life where

528
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: you're gonna be all doing different things and sometimes, you know,

529
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 3: the friends that you had in high school aren't the

530
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: friends that you're to stay with, And that's okay. You'll

531
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 3: find you'll find new people who don't spend like a

532
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 3: day trying to get this cat inside. Yeah, dude, some

533
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 3: better cat owners than this person for real.

534
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: Bert swooped into defend his sister because he didn't like

535
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: that Carl wasn't going to take it easy on her

536
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 2: after the crap she said. The fight went on forever,

537
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: and by the end of it, I was sobbing. Nothing

538
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: I tried helped. Neither side would stop saying nasty, degrading crap.

539
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: I left the group chat out of anger and frustration

540
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: and talked to my mom. H ed up texting Bert,

541
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: but that didn't help much. Carl and I tried and

542
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: joined the rest of the day, but it was hard

543
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: when I kept thinking all about the crazy crap. Martha

544
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: and Brienna were saying, felt so hurt, like I didn't

545
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: mean anything to him, like for those four years never mattered.

546
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: It was devastating and definitely my worst birthday.

547
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: I forgot it was your birthday.

548
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, this entire trip was for the birthday.

549
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: It was the birthday trip. Ah. Rough, that's rough, that's real,

550
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 3: real tough, o PM.

551
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: Sorry, the three of them have slowly started cutting me off.

552
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: It's by offering to do something else for my birthday,

553
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: which they never actually planned. They just set it to

554
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: look better during their argument. These aren't your friends anymore,

555
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: No a friend. The cat probably never got out, And then.

556
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: They don't have a cat, a cat at all.

557
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 2: They call and they're like, the cat's out.

558
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know you guys had a cat. It's new.

559
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: Talk's a little different. Yeah, I genuinely don't believe they

560
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: needed all three of them to get one cat who

561
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: was just chilling outside in view. Also, are they physically

562
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: slow to get this cat because it was overweight and

563
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: they could see it?

564
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm like, How is it this hard

565
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: for you to get a cat inside? Yeah, it just

566
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: can't be.

567
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 2: He wasn't inside so they completely ditched me. My mom

568
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: was also pissed because she'd spent a lot of money

569
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: on groceries, a tent, and running the campsite space. She

570
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: thanks Martha did this on purpose because she didn't want

571
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: me driving, and then it spiraled from there. Honestly, don't

572
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 2: know what to believe anymore. I just know how her

573
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: I feel, and that I've completely cut all three of

574
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: them out of my life. I want some other opinions.

575
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: Am I the a hole because I wasn't empathetic enough

576
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: about her cat being outside? No, we have an update.

577
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: We have an update every cat.

578
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry if I if my dog got out and

579
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: was outside, I mean, it wouldn't be have a problem

580
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: because my dog knows how to be recalled, but like,

581
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: uh are recalled like a car? Yeah? But what Okay,

582
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: But if my dog is outside and I can see

583
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: the dog, it's gonna take me, like, I don't know,

584
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: five ten minutes to get that. I guess the cat

585
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: is different.

586
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: I could get your dog into the house and less intensive.

587
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, I'm just saying if it was a dog

588
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: that didn't recalled, But like so say, this is a

589
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: cat a bit harder. We put a can of tuna.

590
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's not like if you can see

591
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: the cat, it cannot be that hard. It cannot take

592
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: hours to get this cat inside.

593
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, aren't cats like little versions of lions?

594
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? Any kind of they're both lines. Good job, Riley update.

595
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: Thanks for all your comments. They brought to my attention

596
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: that I wasn't clear enough. Cat is an outside cat?

597
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: What it wants to be?

598
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: Wait?

599
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: What when it wants to be Sophia when it feels

600
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: like going on?

601
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 4: Want?

602
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: No, it didn't want to be outside. It wanted to

603
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: be inside side, don't catch me, and.

604
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: So that's insane. Your cat is an outdoor indoor cat.

605
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: It goes in and out often, as do other cats.

606
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: They live on plenty of property where it's not a

607
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: risk of being overrun. What they knew where the cat

608
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: would be, but decided none of them could come. I

609
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: didn't come help because there were already four or more

610
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: people there. I also realized there's more I didn't include

611
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: about why I'm cutting them off. It's not just because

612
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: this isolated incident.

613
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: Even if it was, they're gone. I'm sorry they couldn't

614
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: come to your birthday weekend because three of them had

615
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: to help get an indoor cat or sorr an outdoor

616
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: cat indoors?

617
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: Can I can I say one of your friend's names?

618
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: Or what if Isabelle died this to you?

619
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: But never? She has cats? Actually she has two cats.

620
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: What if she what if you Okay, there's something special

621
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: coming up soon? What if she can't make it because

622
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: one of her cats are outside? Would you understand?

623
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: I'd be like, girl, how long is it going to

624
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: take you to get this cat? Okay, I'm going to

625
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: cut her off, But I'd be like why why boom?

626
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: But also, here's hippercrit.

627
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: I'm saying in this scenario.

628
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, this scenario is stupid.

629
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 4: There's also them just not even communicating with op. It

630
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: was like, okay, we have a plan, we have this,

631
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 4: We're gonna try and make it there.

632
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: We'll try and leave in an hour. Nothing. It was

633
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: just we can't cut at all. Wrestling the cat's.

634
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: Outside, wrestling mama a fat cat? Would it come for treats?

635
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: None of this makes sense.

636
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: The catgate, oh Man Bert, especially who's my best friend

637
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: for four years, came very rude and back handed towards

638
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: me after the incident. He called me stupid and say

639
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: I was just joking constantly. Martha just distanced herself from me,

640
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: and Brianna and I were never that close anyways. Eventually,

641
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: after a big fight with Bert, I decided to unfollow

642
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: them on everything and cut them off. Had no need

643
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: for this negativity in my life anymore. Yeah.

644
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, your friends are not your friends, and if

645
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: they're being nasty to you, what should have happened? So

646
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: what's her face? Who has the cat? Brianna?

647
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

648
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: Sure, Brianna's like, hey, my cat got out. I know

649
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: she's an outdoor cat, but we're leaving. We need to

650
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: get her in. Can't be outside all weekend and blah

651
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: blah blah. So my mom and I are just going

652
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: to try and get the cat. We might be running

653
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 3: over a little late. I'm going to drive up on

654
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: my own. I'll meet you guys.

655
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: Up there, yep.

656
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: And then your other two friends drive up and you

657
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: all go up together and everyone's good. And then Brianna

658
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: drives up later.

659
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: Yep.

660
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: That's it, that's total, that's it. She gets her cat in.

661
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: I don't know ten minutes later.

662
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed of freaking greed. Sounds like the cat got

663
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: out of the bag, though, But Soon after, Martha sent

664
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: me a photo on Snapchat of all three of them together,

665
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: all flipping me off.

666
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: What so immature? I know you're eighteen years old, but

667
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: I never did this at eighteen, so you're bad.

668
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: They unfriended me and unfollowed me on everything imaginable, even

669
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: on my self care non sponsored app. That was the

670
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: ultimate reason I decided to cut them off completely, not

671
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: just one thing. I have cats on my own, so

672
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: I understand how important they are. I also have two

673
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: cats that are constantly outside, and I never ditch a

674
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: friend from plans. We had months forced my cat inside.

675
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: That's in that story. Guys, is this Katka or are

676
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 2: the friend?

677
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 4: Cat's not real?

678
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: Cat's fake fake cat.

679
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: Fake news, fake cat.

680
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: But that's the end of that story, and we're gonna

681
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: jump into the next one.

682
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Speaker 1: Hey it's Sam. We're gonna get back to the stories.

683
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: But here's three minutes of bads from our sponsors.

684
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Speaker 3: My best friends keep ignoring my girlfriend. What'd you say

685
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: we're doing one more time?

686
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

687
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 4: Did he actually get you with that? Yeah? That's wild.

688
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 4: Oh that's funny. Oh we got that, we got we

689
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: got her.

690
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: Writing the title makes me feel super childish, but I

691
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: swear it's deeper than what it seems. Some backstory. I

692
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: eighteen male, have had a group of friends since I

693
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: was six years old, consisting of three girls and me.

694
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: I know this might sound unusual, but it's worked for me.

695
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: Boys and girls can be friends, and it's weird to

696
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: assume they can't. I would know most of my friends,

697
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: well not most. I would say it's happen. You can't

698
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: be friends with girls as a guy would never allow it.

699
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: Hit in't do it.

700
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: There's Allison, probably my realist friend because she's most similar

701
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: to me and has been in all my friend groups

702
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 3: since we were six. Then Dina, who's in our circle

703
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 3: but I'm less close to since she went to a

704
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: different sixth form. Lastly, there's Olivia, eighteen female, who had

705
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: a different circle during secondary school, but we've gotten closer

706
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 3: again in sixth form.

707
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 2: What is sixth form?

708
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: It's British.

709
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: Okay, ah, it's Ritish ace British.

710
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Global Ad ninety eight

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Speaker 3: go to the r slash Okay storytime separate it. So

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Speaker 3: I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, I'm keon, and op says, I

714
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,479
Speaker 3: know my now girlfriend Sam because she knew Dina. Sam

715
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: and I have been friends since starting sixth form and

716
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: dating since May twenty twenty four. It's going amazingly well.

717
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: Oh right, is Opie amel or female checking?

718
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 3: I need male?

719
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: Eighteen mail eighteen mail?

720
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I've never this close to someone before. We're communicative,

721
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: open and comfortable. Similar in some ways but not too similar,

722
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: with shared interests and willingness to learn about each other's hobbies.

723
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: She's a lovely person with a beautiful soul. I feel

724
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: silly saying this so young, since anything can happen, but

725
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: I'm very secure in our relationship. Sam and I were

726
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: part of a friendship circle consisting of me, her Alison, Olivia,

727
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 3: and three other people. Our friendship group is predominantly queer.

728
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 3: I'm by my girlfriend is queer, and most of our

729
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: friends are LGBT and probably neurodiversent. We're all very nerdy

730
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: and love D and D, which is how we made

731
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: friends initially, except for Olivia, who isn't LGBT and doesn't

732
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: share our interests. Get her out of there?

733
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 4: Why is she in the group?

734
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 2: Why is she there?

735
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: I also have the group, but she has zero interest

736
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 4: with everybody else.

737
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 3: There's nothing here.

738
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: Maybe I feel like people stay together in school and

739
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: then like once they get out of school, it's like, oh,

740
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: I still have to be friends with them, but you're

741
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: just on different lanes.

742
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being different as long as

743
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: you're respectful. But she doesn't feel like we have common

744
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: ground because she doesn't like D and D. Even so,

745
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 3: she and I still have similar interests in things to

746
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: talk about. We tried getting her involved with D and D,

747
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: but she refused. Everything was fine for over a year

748
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: until December twenty twenty four, Oh, when I had been

749
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 3: dating Sam for almost seven months. Olivia had no qualms

750
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 3: about our relationship until that point.

751
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: Uh oh, and now she wants your D and D.

752
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: Oh. She was actually the first person I told about

753
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 3: my crush on Sam and was very supportive since we

754
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: often gossip about relationship stuff. My girlfriend had mental health struggles,

755
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: heightened anxiety, suspected autism, and depression. December was extremely stressful

756
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 3: for her with design projects due, and she's a self

757
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: proclaimed perfectionist. One day everything became overwhelming and she'd been

758
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: crying quite a bit. Our friends and I were supportive

759
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: and helped her calm down from a panic attack. At

760
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 3: day's end, she was still upset and wanted comfort, but

761
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: we had to wait for the bus with Olivia. My

762
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: girlfriend couldn't help being upset, and obviously I wasn't going

763
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: to ignore that, so I focused on her. Olivia went

764
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: unusually quiet, uncharacteristics, and she normally jumps at the chance

765
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: to help crying people. She went on her phone, played

766
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: games and ignored my crying girlfriend. I assumed she was

767
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: giving us space as a couple, though it made me

768
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: angry that she wasn't showing sympathy.

769
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: Maybe she shows sympathy to you, and when it comes

770
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: to other people less, so your girlfriend doesn't know how

771
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: to handle it because she has complex emotions about your

772
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: girlfriend Sam.

773
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: I think that could be true. I occasionally tried talking

774
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: to Olivia, but she'd pretend nothing was making Sam upset.

775
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 3: When we got off the bus, Olivia and I had

776
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 3: to walk two minutes to wear our paths diverse. She

777
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: stormed ahead without speaking, classic cold shoulder behavior from her

778
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: when she's mad. I tried figuring out what was wrong,

779
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 3: but didn't text since it seemed too minor. She continued

780
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 3: ignoring us. The next day, I worried it would be

781
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 3: awkward in our shared history class, but as soon as

782
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 3: I was away from Sam, she acted normally with me. Great,

783
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: she's done being mad at me for some reason. But

784
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: she kept giving my girlfriend the cold shoulder. Every time

785
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 3: Sam texted to apologize, Olivia would respond nice apology or thanks,

786
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: but continue the charad.

787
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: Dude, Olivia, you gotta play a little smarter at this game. Yeah, Olivia,

788
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 2: if you're trying to jump Opie's bones.

789
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: This isn't work. This is not how you do it.

790
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: Gotta be a little bit more charismatic.

791
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: Ah Man, come on, figure it out. She'd ignore both

792
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: of us together but be nice to me alone. I

793
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 3: wonder why, Oh, he just doesn't see it yet.

794
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: He's an eighteen year old guy. She doesn't see it, Dude.

795
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: I didn't know girl like me until she put her

796
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: head on my shoulder. I didn't know Angie liked me

797
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: until she held my hand on the first date, and

798
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, I think she's intimating a date.

799
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: I don't usually initiate touch until the third Wow. I know.

800
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: Damn kept trying to be nice but got nothing. Alison,

801
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 3: our mutual friend, asked her about it during a text conversation,

802
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 3: but Olivia just stopped responding completely. On the last day

803
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: before Christmas break, my girlfriend was having a bad day,

804
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: still stressed from projects and this cold shoulder situation, and

805
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: Olivia was giving her immature cold looks. A mutual acquaintance

806
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: straight up asked her what was going on. I should

807
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: have done this. I hate confrontation and am very avoidant,

808
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: but I should have stepped up. Her answers still confuses

809
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: me because it's, unfortunately all I have to go on.

810
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: She's too emotional, she cries too much. Another thing she

811
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 3: cried because of p and I are friends. Mmmmm, she's

812
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: trying to incite discord into the friendship.

813
00:39:59,400 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: M hm.

814
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous and downright delusional.

815
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: Opie. Do you ever have a relationship of troubles go

816
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: to anybody but Olivia? Yeah, so I know, the second

817
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: you're having issues with Sam, you're gonna go She's gonna

818
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna go talk to Olivia and she's gonna be like,

819
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: she's manipulating you.

820
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: Don't you see you can ever go to Olivia about this?

821
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: Oh no, sir, She's You're her puppet. You gotta get

822
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: out of that.

823
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: And come to me. This confused me so much. Why

824
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 3: would you admit this? She's not an idiot. She should

825
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 3: know this is a childish reason for ignoring someone because

826
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: it's not Oh pee, we can all see it. Sam

827
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: and I racked our brains because we suspected it might

828
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 3: be about me not being as close to Olivia since

829
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 3: dating Sam, but just Sam being too emotional, horrible and

830
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: very out of character. Oh pee, wake up, aliceon Sam

831
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: and I wondered if something was happening in Olivia's personal life,

832
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: but we decided it would be weird to ask how

833
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: is no one and your friend group realizing what is

834
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 3: very obvious to all of us here.

835
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 2: Also, if your friends someone you can ask, hey, what

836
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: how's everything doing. I was talking to a team member

837
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 2: today and they, you know, we got to talk about

838
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: her personal life and you know, heart's in the chat

839
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: for her hopefully she's doing okay. But you know, she

840
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: opened up and was like this, what's going on? I'm like,

841
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: that's what you do? Is like, you know, as live.

842
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 4: Do you think that people in the friend group support this?

843
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: Support what?

844
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: Like, what what's going on?

845
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, like they want Olivia yeah, yeah, I don't.

846
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: Know because they can't be that ob I don't know.

847
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: Like they're they're eighteen, but like I don't think I

848
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: was that oblivious at eighteen.

849
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 4: They can't be that oblivia.

850
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: I mean, not my own about my personal relate like

851
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: any like when someone's footing with me I but like

852
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: with other people, like a spot it. Maybe that's OK.

853
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: It's just hard to imagine that's happening to you because

854
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: you don't really perceive yourself being in that yeah.

855
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 4: Element, I mean I get it, like for I don't know,

856
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 4: when we get at your stud no, no thanks, yeah,

857
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: oh no. When I was in high school, but guys

858
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: are like that girl is hitting on you, and I'm like, yeah,

859
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 4: I would never she's not.

860
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: I didn't realize until like senior year of college that

861
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: people were hitting on me.

862
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: And even then I'm like, is Charlie flirting with me?

863
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: Because for guys, and this sounds so bad, but girls

864
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: being nice to you, they assume that they're flirting with you.

865
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: So it's either if they're nice to you, you think

866
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: that they're flirting, or you don't think they're flirting whatsoever.

867
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 2: And you later down the road you realize.

868
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that video of like, is she really into me?

869
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: I don't just being she's being nice. I think she

870
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 4: she told me she likes me, but she's just being nice.

871
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

872
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 3: With guys, they tell you they like you like Oh no, no,

873
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: that's all most girls.

874
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: Well I tell Angie I like her a lot.

875
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: Well don't she anyway? Christmas break would hopefully settle things

876
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 3: down right eight. During the break, she had me, Alison,

877
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: and Dina over for a movie night. At the end,

878
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: she began yelling at me for not having proper manners

879
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: all because I was comfortable enough to not say please

880
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: for a drink. Alison said it was harsh, and suddenly

881
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: Olivia turned on her. Are you gonna tell me to

882
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: go on a live myself? Okay?

883
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: What?

884
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: Okay?

885
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: These days they say the darnedest things.

886
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 3: We're gonna tell me that. After eleven years of knowing Alison,

887
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: she would never actually tell someone that, especially not Olivia.

888
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: This made me worried something was genuinely wrong with Olivia mentally.

889
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

890
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

891
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 3: Alison reached out to apologize, but nothing was resolved. Olivia

892
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: didn't apologize or admit anything was wrong.

893
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 2: Olivia, how's her home life?

894
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: Going Lydia Olivia Olivia. Our hangouts never end like that.

895
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 3: Another odd thing. During break, Olivia's mother asked my mother,

896
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 3: in a skeptical, hush tone, that what do you think

897
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: of Sam? Obviously Olivia had fed her mum lies or

898
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: exaggerations about Sam. My mum was confused because she couldn't

899
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 3: understand how anyone wouldn't like Sam, who's the most kind, thoughtful,

900
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: sweet person. After Christmas break, nothing returned to normal. Olivia

901
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: ignored my girlfriend for a total of six months. We

902
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: found new ways of working around it. If the status

903
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 3: quo suddenly changed and Olivia liked Sam again, that would

904
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: be weird because of how used to it we got.

905
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: It was sad because Sam and I ended up eating

906
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: in the library away from our friend group since Sam

907
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 3: worried Olivia would snap at her, which became a new thing.

908
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: Olivia would snap at her for little things, sometimes mock her,

909
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 3: and avoid her presence constantly. This was despite Sam trying

910
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 3: to say he lo include her and wave in the hall.

911
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: Super awkward, but luckily our friend group was just as

912
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: confused as we were. I still don't get it.

913
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: How okay?

914
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: How do you not get it?

915
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: The reason you don't get it, Opie, because you're avoiding it.

916
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to get.

917
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: It exactly deep down, you know what's happening, but you

918
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: want to avoid that reality in whole. Thus you're just

919
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: commenting on everything she's doing rather than actually doing something

920
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: about it.

921
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 3: You got to address it. We got to address.

922
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: It, dude. If Sophia was acting me like, this'll be

923
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: what's up?

924
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 3: What is up?

925
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: Why doing this? Yeah, and then she'll tell me like

926
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: we'll get frustrated each other, and then like we'll talk

927
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: later and then and then it's fine. It's fine.

928
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: That's what you need to do. With Olivia. We always

929
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: tried including her in every interaction, but she'd ignore us.

930
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: Then she turned around and complained to Alison that she

931
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 3: didn't feel welcome in the group anymore. Wonder why, Olivia,

932
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: Though it's six months of this cold shoulders snapping at

933
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: Sam for the littlest things, like she was finding any excuse.

934
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: Then suddenly, on last day before summer, she bounded up

935
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: to my girlfriend and greeted her with a polite smile,

936
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 3: talking normally. This made me think I could finally talk

937
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: about Sam in front of Olivia without her getting weird. Again. Nope.

938
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: To this day, she still goes quiet and doesn't respond.

939
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 3: When I mentioned Sam just a week ago, her mom

940
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 3: asked mine about my girlfriend in the same manner as before.

941
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: I guess I just feel crazy. Writing this down should

942
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: make it obvious what I should have done. Asked her

943
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: what the heck she was doing. Katie Paladin says they're

944
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: also Nerdi Vergent, remembers Sophia. That's true.

945
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 5: I thought everyone but Olivia was everyone but Olivia is

946
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 5: so like, sure, that might be contributing to it, but

947
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 5: like also, their moms don't realize what's going on, just

948
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 5: like no one in this situation realizes what's going on,

949
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I.

950
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: Kind of one person must have.

951
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: I kind of don't know what's anymore.

952
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on.

953
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 1: John here, og host, We're gonna get back to these stories,

954
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: but a quick free minute break from ass from our sponsors.

955
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: But she created this environment where I couldn't confront her

956
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: properly without feeling like I was overacting, creating conflict, and

957
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 3: confronting her felt pointless after six months. Why did she

958
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: ignore her for seven months total? Was it really because

959
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: my girlfriend was too emotional? Do you have any final thoughts.

960
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: Yes, they're all eighteen and teenagers. Yeah, and some of

961
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: them are girls that are teenagers and some of them

962
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: are guys that are teenagers. They're all young, and they're

963
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 2: all they're all of the Alpha generation. Right, there's alpha.

964
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 4: No, I think they're the beta. Are they the beta

965
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 4: with the alpha?

966
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 5: No?

967
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 2: No, no, Alpha, They're alpha.

968
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 4: They're alpha.

969
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: They're all alpha.

970
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 3: They might still be gen Z. Actually, I don't know

971
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 3: what the cutoff is.

972
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: Anyways, they're too close to being alpha, so none of

973
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: those kids make any sense.

974
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: WHOA you think they're alphas.

975
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: Jin alpha or whatever.

976
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, have that conversation with Olivia or a cutter off.

977
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. You gotta pick.

978
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: One cut her off. Since you're non avoidant, then that

979
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: seems like the easiest, easiest way to get it done.

980
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 3: You can't do this middle ground where you're all trying

981
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: to be friends with her and she's actively ignoring your

982
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: girlfriend for seven months. That's a bad move. That was

983
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: the worst move you could take. But there's a little

984
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 3: bit left before you go. I'll read it and say

985
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: she was jealous of my girlfriend previously. She and I

986
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: have a sibling like relationship.

987
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 4: Dude, the cod always change, it can change.

988
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 3: She's proclaimed she thinks of me like a brother and

989
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 3: that it would be gross for people to assume we're together.

990
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: The lady doth protests too much.

991
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's like you're like my brother. But like

992
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: you're into it, I'm into it.

993
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: She had a boyfriend during this period who she's still with. Girl,

994
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: Come on, you're overthinking it.

995
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but guess what, that's all they do. Teenagers only overthink.

996
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: It's true. I just don't understand why she had to

997
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: do this. This is very extreme for her. I've started

998
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 3: thinking about whether I'm making excuses for myself and whether

999
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: I should have asked what was going on, probably maybe

1000
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: included her even more somehow, So, am I an a

1001
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: hole for not reaching out after her signals and asking

1002
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: if something was happening in her personal life? Am I

1003
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 3: an a hole for possibly prioritizing my girlfriend? And that

1004
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: is the end of that story. You're not the ale

1005
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 3: for prioritizing your girlfriend, but you should have brought this

1006
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: up way earlier. Yeah, don't don't continue to put it

1007
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: off just because you're like, well it's been so long, Like,

1008
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: stop procrastinating it, Go talk.

1009
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, The longer you wait, the more awkward. It's already awkward,

1010
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: and already awkward.

1011
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: Though, this is challenging me as a six seven no no, no,

1012
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: no oh. This is challenging me as someone that avoids

1013
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: things to back ahead on. Yeah with raging fists.

1014
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 3: You got this, but uh, that's the end of that

1015
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: story and the end of this episode. So if you

1016
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 3: love us, make sure to subscribe.

1017
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 2: We love you and see you tomorrow.