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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast. He's actually three kids in

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Speaker 1: a trench coat. Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas. That comes to you from

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Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal back

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Speaker 1: from vacation, Mark Sessler, boys, I would love the trench

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Speaker 1: coat scenario. I would be at the bottom um supporting

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Speaker 1: my two smaller campadres. Then it just becomes who's the

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Speaker 1: the groin to the chest of the trench coat. It

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Speaker 1: gets tricky. That's a tough spot to be. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think it's obvious. I mean, no offense to Mark, but

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Speaker 1: I'm clearly the lightest, so um, probably by a good amount.

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Speaker 1: So I think the lightest goes on top. You do

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Speaker 1: it like snowband style. I mean, I just think because

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Speaker 1: if if he weighs you know, um significant, you know,

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Speaker 1: well you gotta have twenty pounds on me at least,

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Speaker 1: which you know, you're a bigger man, You're you're a

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Speaker 1: more masculine man. Mark is really toned up, I feel

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Speaker 1: like in the great shape, but but that muscle weighs

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Speaker 1: think you're you're overcomplimenting my body, um, Greg. And but

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Speaker 1: also secondly i'd say that is it a stunner. I've

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Speaker 1: drawn the absolutely worst assignment um in this in this

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Speaker 1: uh fantasy of dance that I'm in the I'm literally

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Speaker 1: in the middle of Dann and Greg's body. That's what

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Speaker 1: I've returned to from a Dan is pretty bad too.

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting the top is you get the face

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Speaker 1: All right? How you doing, Mark? I'm doing all right.

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Speaker 1: I will say, Um, that's something that occurred that happened

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Speaker 1: to me on my vacation. I got the worst sunburn,

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Speaker 1: So uh, you know, I'm just gonna soldier through. I

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Speaker 1: had a similar situation in Mexico. Um very white, like

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Speaker 1: my entire like torso, was red except for this one

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Speaker 1: didn't totally nail the application of the sunscreen in retrospect. No,

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Speaker 1: little touch and go, all right, good to see you guys,

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Speaker 1: Nice to be together. Yeah, bad week, bad week in

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Speaker 1: the States. It's one of those times I think of

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Speaker 1: like our foreign listeners and they I almost like feel

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Speaker 1: like they're rightful condemnation on just on us and not

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Speaker 1: for all of us in this country. And Greg nailed

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Speaker 1: let's get into today's show coming up um on around

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Speaker 1: the NFL we will you know this was Mark while

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Speaker 1: you were gone. Incredible moment in the history of the show.

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Speaker 1: Maybe my favorite moment in history of the show is

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Speaker 1: during a conversation, Greg in an incredulous manner, uh uttered

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Speaker 1: immediately said grave Digger, put that in the file. That's

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Speaker 1: the life, and we were treated like movie stars with muscle.

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Speaker 1: We had it all just for the asking dah bummer

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Speaker 1: that Ray Liotta and that, of course, from his iconic

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Speaker 1: he passed away. Leota did at the age of sixty seven,

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Speaker 1: had a amazing career. I would say Mark that Good

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Speaker 1: Fellas might be my favorite movie ever. Like if someone

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Speaker 1: he would totally support that. Josh McDaniels has has you know,

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Speaker 1: at the chaos that surrounds Mark Davis on some level

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Speaker 1: you have like a developmental team and we need to

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Speaker 1: develop these football players. We don't have a development mental league. Really,

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Speaker 1: you know, you've got us Value're trying, and it really

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Speaker 1: rewards smart. It rewards rewards smart teams. I think that

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Speaker 1: are going to be able to build guys out and

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna help the smart teams kill the

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Speaker 1: you know, it is it is. Would you say that

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to on balance, um, look at the

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Speaker 1: plus and minuses of the coronavirus and all its its

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Speaker 1: journey in our in our world, and the fact, well

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Speaker 1: the pluses and minuses, I mean, would you say that

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Speaker 1: Um they we're getting much more flexibility on that front.

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Speaker 1: You now can put eight to these people or you

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Speaker 1: have eight slots and one person go on twice over

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Speaker 1: the course of the season, that maybe the the whole

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Speaker 1: thing was worth it, Like it kind of worked out

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Speaker 1: for us, like we got this tweak to the leg

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Speaker 1: or no on either side of that. Yeah, I don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's just move on. Uh. In other news, the Steelers

448
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Speaker 1: have made the move everyone expected they officially named Omar

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Speaker 1: Con their new general manager. Rap Sheet reported this on

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Speaker 1: Tuesday night. The team confirmed it on Wednesday. UH Steelers

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Speaker 1: ownered Art Rooney. The second says the following, I am

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Speaker 1: pleased to announce ba ba ba ba ba bah bah.

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Speaker 1: Omar has been an integral part of our football operations

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Speaker 1: department during his twenty one years of the team, and

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Speaker 1: that experience will serve him well in his new position.

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Speaker 1: He was the in house favorite to replace the retiring

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Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert. The team is also hiring Eagles VP of

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Speaker 1: Player Personnel Andy Whitel as the team's assistant GM. Rap

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Speaker 1: Sheet reported our old colleague Add Kink of Wall First

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Speaker 1: had that, Uh, Greg, is this Eagles dude your source

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Speaker 1: within the Eagles? Which that leads you to always root

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Speaker 1: for them, to hope that they are the breakout team

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Speaker 1: in the NFC. No, based on the reporting, I would

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Speaker 1: guess he's one of the Deity's sources and you know,

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Speaker 1: power to her. Um wait, is this guy with the Eagle?

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Speaker 1: Is he a source or is he a friend? Greg?

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Speaker 1: Don't It's a dangerous territory to slip into and they

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Speaker 1: have very few sources. I'm not an insider. I would

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Speaker 1: I would go more more friend. Yeah, and don't get

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Speaker 1: any info. I don't realize the source that matters, the

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Speaker 1: most important source you have. You could say it here,

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Speaker 1: um our, NFL network inside or Ian Rappaport. You know

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Speaker 1: that's right, that's a correct answer. How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 1: How's your relationship? By the way, you and rap Sheet

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Speaker 1: we haven't We haven't talked in a little while. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he sent me a couple of texts. I think you

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Speaker 1: guys have to work some things out like that. You're

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Speaker 1: introducing this publicly. But there is more to say on

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Speaker 1: that than what are we going to say about omar Con.

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Speaker 1: You know, I could talk more on the boomerang I

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Speaker 1: are um and how owners are che in terms of

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Speaker 1: roster sizes. Um. But good for m our Ay our

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Speaker 1: buddy Kevin Colbert joined the show. I think this will

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Speaker 1: help him stick around. To remember, he was saying like

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Speaker 1: he might stick around depending on who gets hired. Now

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Speaker 1: now you would think he sticks around. Nice big fat

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Speaker 1: contract to us, simply say yes or no on concept.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't looking to ambush you at that breaking news

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Speaker 1: about you and I in but it just did pop

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Speaker 1: in my head and it just came out and it's

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Speaker 1: the off season and we need content, and there it is.

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Speaker 1: You guys maybe need to patch them things up, and

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Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. It's fine, you know, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: These things happen. Finally in the news, speaking of rap sheet, well, firsts.

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Speaker 1: First things first, the Combine is staying in Indianapolis for

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Speaker 1: the next couple of years, which is a bit of

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Speaker 1: a surprise because when we were they're in February and

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Speaker 1: the Combine has been in Indianapolis since nine Now, um,

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Speaker 1: there were long forms in the media about the end

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Speaker 1: of the era of India and the Combine. It seemed

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Speaker 1: like that's where it was going. We had people internally

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Speaker 1: that we're telling us it's definitely gonna be here. But

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Speaker 1: as it turns out, they're staying in India at least

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Speaker 1: for a couple of more years. So there's that. And

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Speaker 1: then another news, our friend rap sheet, We'll see the

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Speaker 1: NFL is discussing, he says, the Pro Bowl week and

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Speaker 1: ways to improve it here we are again, including possibly

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Speaker 1: eliminating the traditional game and using that Sunday to showcase

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Speaker 1: the players in it. Essentially, what are the alternatives? Rap

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Speaker 1: Sheets tweet reads Mark, does it feel like this tweet

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Speaker 1: is sent by Ian every single year? Now? Yes, and

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Speaker 1: I mean exactly. The first thing that comes to mind

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Speaker 1: is the Pro Bowl should have been dealt with um

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Speaker 1: severely about a decade ago. They've hung on to something

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Speaker 1: that I think I liked it when I was a kid, um,

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Speaker 1: but that was about the last time. And that well,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing, because Goodell says the same thing every

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Speaker 1: year too. He's like, the game isn't getting it done,

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Speaker 1: and people think that's news, and then just happens again,

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Speaker 1: but again, and then I'll come in or somebody will

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Speaker 1: come in and be like, well, we say that, but

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Speaker 1: it gets the same ratings as an NBA playoff game,

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Speaker 1: which is true. And actually I have a new one

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Speaker 1: that I've said before, but it's kind of new to

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Speaker 1: the mix, which is But my kids really do like

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. They're pretty excited about the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And who is the most important segment of the population

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Speaker 1: to market too, if you're the NFL. The children Tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: fans Luke Russer, whom is a Big Bills fan. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's in the political world. His dad, of course was

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Speaker 1: famous political uh. Television and I don't know what he did,

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Speaker 1: like a nightly talk show, but he was kind of

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Speaker 1: a legend in that realm. And up in Buffalo huge

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Speaker 1: Bills fan Luke his son. I remember when I did

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Speaker 1: the pain rankings on the Bills. I spoke to him

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Speaker 1: about his dad and the and um and what it

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Speaker 1: means to be a Buffalo fan during their kind of

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Speaker 1: down period. But he replied to Iatan's tweet with what

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Speaker 1: is a great idea that I haven't heard? And I

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Speaker 1: apologize if someone else had this idea, but Luke tweeted

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Speaker 1: it out. Instead of a Pro Bowl game, the NFL

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Speaker 1: field day, Remember the field days. They're going right down

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Speaker 1: the street from my house is the elementary school, and

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Speaker 1: I could hear the kids going nuts right now for

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Speaker 1: field day a f C versus NFC. He says, winning

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Speaker 1: team splits ten million field goal shootout, tug of war,

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Speaker 1: forty yard dash, dead lift, QB accuracy drill. I'd watch it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we outside a tug of war. We've had

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Speaker 1: versions of that, you know, in the off season for

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Speaker 1: a long time, and they're more engaging than the game.

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Speaker 1: But I would love to see like tug of war

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Speaker 1: and like a giant muddy pit where they're getting very muddy.

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Speaker 1: I think tug of war is the key part of this.

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Speaker 1: I think we need how many people are on the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, isn't it like thirty five for each we

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Speaker 1: need four, We need eighty people tugging on that rope.

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Speaker 1: I want to see it. I need to see it.

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Speaker 1: Make it happen. Rog Um all right, and finally in

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Speaker 1: the news speaking of the Pro Bowl, UM, an anniversary

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Speaker 1: is coming up, So it's time now another segment that

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Speaker 1: we debuted, Mark, that you missed while you were gone.

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Speaker 1: The segment is called it Came from the Internet. This

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Speaker 1: is a clip I stumbled upon during preparation for today's show. UM.

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Speaker 1: It's well known clip, but I hadn't checked it out

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Speaker 1: in several years. And it was Peyton Manning at the

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Speaker 1: two thousand two Pro Bowl talking about his kicker, Mike

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Speaker 1: vander Jack. And while you'll say, oh, well, we don't

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Speaker 1: really need to revisit this, maybe after you actually hear

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, the young superstar of football at this time, UM,

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Speaker 1: what he says on the sideline during the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I would watch the Pro Bowl if these things still

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Speaker 1: happened to the game let's listen to Peyton Manning on

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Speaker 1: his kicker Mike Vanderjack, who had said some critical things

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Speaker 1: of Manning and Tony Dungee, the Colts head coach at

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Speaker 1: the time days earlier, on a television interview in Toronto.

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Speaker 1: Herey all, I'm out about third pro ball. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about our idiot kicker who got liquored up and ran

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Speaker 1: his mouth off. So what as the sports world come to.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about idiot kickers. Here's ruined kickers for life

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Speaker 1: Acres and Minitarry. He's guys are great guys. They've getting

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Speaker 1: killed all week because our idiot ran his mind. So

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Speaker 1: when I get home out deal with Tony not talking

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Speaker 1: about it. It's kind of funny really when you think

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Speaker 1: about it. If he is still a team, man will

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Speaker 1: deal with it. You know, I arranged the leave seeing

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Speaker 1: The sad thing is he's a good kicker, he's a

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Speaker 1: good ticket, but he's radiot. I adore it funds and

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Speaker 1: burner blowtorch at the highest levels trying to get him.

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Speaker 1: I never I didn't know about that part. He's like,

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Speaker 1: if he's even still on her team, we'll see about that.

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Speaker 1: Like and if you read a little about what happened afterwards,

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Speaker 1: Vanderjack gets stuck with him for the rest of his career.

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Speaker 1: In life, let's be honest that he was called an

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Speaker 1: Adia kicker. He took that very personally. Uh. In interviews

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Speaker 1: after the fact, even thought about filing a lawsuit for

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Speaker 1: slander against Peyton Manning for saying that he was drunk

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Speaker 1: during the interview he gave with the Toronto television station, Uh,

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Speaker 1: saying I was not drunk. Uh, and that relationship was

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Speaker 1: forever strained. And then Vanderjack once he got he got

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Speaker 1: cut by the Colts, who replaced him with Adam Vntieri,

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Speaker 1: and then they won the Super Bowl and and then uh,

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Speaker 1: Vanderjack had a cup of coffee. This is a good trivia.

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Speaker 1: Where did Vantajack go after the Colts for a brief time?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I will guess the Jets very briefly.

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Speaker 1: He landed with the Cowboys and struggled, got cut and

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Speaker 1: never played again. So at that time he was the

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Speaker 1: most accurate field goal kicker of all time. Anyway, So

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Speaker 1: there you go. It came from the internet. Uh. He's

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Speaker 1: sort of synonymous too with coming up short in a

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Speaker 1: big spot, which is that's not what you want. What

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Speaker 1: you want big time field goal. So that that was it.

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Speaker 1: We do have some breaking news though, Dan, so maybe

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Speaker 1: we're not done with news. Gravers a little under the weather,

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Speaker 1: so you just got bear with him right now. A

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Speaker 1: little different breaking news to the normal, but I like it.

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Speaker 1: The breaking news is I had too many options for

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Speaker 1: our next segment, so I'm throwing this into the news.

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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is not practicing with the New Orleans Saints

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Speaker 1: UM over the last week. Did this fit? What? What

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Speaker 1: the segment? What? I don't even know because I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure exactly what that segment is. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: newsworthy because it's like, uh, what Thomas hasn't played football

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Speaker 1: and and and how many years now? It's been a

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Speaker 1: year and a half. He's played six or seven games

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Speaker 1: and okay seven and two thousand and they had him

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Speaker 1: out there and and uh he's still not back on

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Speaker 1: the field. Just like I know, you're not supposed to

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Speaker 1: overreact to O T s. But dragging himself off his

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Speaker 1: deathbed to to chine in here what you got, grave digger?

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Speaker 1: He said? Seven in two thousand. Oh, he sounds like, guys,

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Speaker 1: are you okay? Get back here are you okay, Bud,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I've got my tea. You know what I

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Speaker 1: like about Graving right now? And like he this shows

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Speaker 1: a certain amount of confidence. He has legitimate BedHead. Like

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Speaker 1: I can tell he's not showered today. And I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you just coming on as you are to do the

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Speaker 1: job well, especially because we know that you're not alone

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Speaker 1: there in Texas. Here, I assume you're staying at your

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Speaker 1: parents house. Okay, so that's right, um, and you brought

640
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Speaker 1: um the woman that we've mentioned on this show, which

641
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: you pretend that we don't like to mention on this

642
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Speaker 1: show with you. So the fact that you're rocking the

643
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Speaker 1: BedHead in the afternoon, your parents asked of this woman,

644
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: interesting combo happens coming to meet the parents? Huh yeah,

645
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: so you're you're you're ill in bed and she's out

646
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Speaker 1: having to hang out with them, probably a lot of

647
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Speaker 1: one on two time or do potential daughter in law

648
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: on they listen to our podcast. Just my dad does

649
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: really everything I do. So he's heard, he's heard us

650
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Speaker 1: mentioned your relationship on the podcast before. He has Indeed,

651
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Speaker 1: what's your old man's name, Jay Jay Graver? What's up, buddy?

652
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Speaker 1: Shout out to Jay Graver. You raised an excellent son

653
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Speaker 1: who's really uh, he's done well for himself. Here all right,

654
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Speaker 1: feel better, buddy, Thank you, and it should be there.

655
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: Mike Thomas too. We want to see you play football again.

656
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: But a little, a little concerning. That's that's something that

657
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: is concerning. He missed the entire season, um, and then

658
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Speaker 1: delayed and remember famously delayed his first surgery to repair

659
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Speaker 1: multiple ligments until last June. Um, that's thirteen months ago

660
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Speaker 1: or what is it, Yeah, twelve and a half and

661
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Speaker 1: a half. He had a setback in November that required

662
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Speaker 1: a follow up procedure and now here we are in

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Speaker 1: late May and they're taking it easy on Yeah. He's

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Speaker 1: almost thirty years old now, so keep an eye on

665
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Speaker 1: that situation. By the way, one more note on Ray

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Speaker 1: Liota before we go to break. He also appeared in

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and fourteen film Flock of Dudes, directed

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Speaker 1: by Bob Castron my friend and throwback podcast, Uh Compadre.

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Speaker 1: They need They the studio or the producers of the

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Speaker 1: film wanted a big name in there and they looked

671
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Speaker 1: at like who's out there? And Leota was there holding

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Speaker 1: out his hand. He said, yeah, I'll work for a day,

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Speaker 1: and he delivered like a key monologue. In the third act,

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Speaker 1: The Flock of Dudes nailed it walked, never seen again.

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Speaker 1: It's a that's a that's a an excellently written and

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Speaker 1: performed film. It also had Mario Lopez, so I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say they only got one big name. They they snagged

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Speaker 1: at least two, right, I meant for that particular scene.

679
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Speaker 1: But yes, they definitely got Slater as well. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's take a break and then we will talk about

681
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Speaker 1: things that were not so sure about. In a segment

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Speaker 1: called what what What What what what? What There it

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Speaker 1: is I I take the segment to mean you're incredulous

684
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Speaker 1: about something that you've you're following in the NFL sphere.

685
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: I think Michael Thomas actually would have fit. He would

686
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Speaker 1: have fit, Greg. I want to help you out here,

687
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Speaker 1: like I actually had Michael Thomas as a potential categories.

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Speaker 1: So if you and I were reading the segment wrong,

689
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Speaker 1: we're at least on the same party line. Did he

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Speaker 1: take one of your two? No? No, no no, it

691
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Speaker 1: was lowered down my list, so it wasn't even in

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Speaker 1: contem because just because it was late that that kind

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Speaker 1: of all happened this morning. So I had already compiled

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Speaker 1: some ideas, so I just put out there are Mark,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna ask for two, Mark is going to

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Speaker 1: have nine ready. And that is an ode to his professionalism,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so, Mark, because you're so professional, Because your list

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Speaker 1: was so deep that the one that Greg brought up,

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Speaker 1: which was his I guess third best option was probably

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Speaker 1: nine or ten for you. We'd like to hear your

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Speaker 1: best best option for the segment called he's all right, folks,

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Speaker 1: he's you know, he's hanging in there. What what what? What? What? What?

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Speaker 1: Al Right, Well I will I'll go here because it's

704
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Speaker 1: a little more football. I think it could have been

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Speaker 1: a news item, and um, it stands out to me

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Speaker 1: as a little bit bizarre. I I get that we're

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Speaker 1: all in the mode of anything that happens at O

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Speaker 1: t A is probably isn't that important, um, but there

709
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Speaker 1: is the perception of things. And I think for certain

710
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: positional players being at O tier are not um either,

711
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: like builds confidence and it allows us to see this

712
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: person is super plugged in and they're about team, or

713
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Speaker 1: it just leaves things hanging in a mysterious place and

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Lamar Jackson because it was John Harbaugh

715
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Speaker 1: when asked why Lamar Jackson was not at ot As

716
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Speaker 1: we all know, he's got the contract thing hanging out there.

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Speaker 1: John Harbor could have said, listen, I've talked with Lamar.

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Speaker 1: Everything's fine, move on. He simply said, you need to

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Speaker 1: go essentially and ask Lamar Jackson that. And at this point, um,

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Speaker 1: this is not a Kyler Murray situation in my mind,

721
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Speaker 1: because if Kyler Murray's hanging back because his camp and

722
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals want to hammer out a deal and get

723
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Speaker 1: through the earlier drama of the offseason, and then at

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Speaker 1: some point before camp they got a big, shining announcement

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Speaker 1: and everyone everything's fine, and you move forward with Lamar Jackson,

726
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: like I think the Ravens want to pay him. I

727
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Speaker 1: don't know what that contract will look like, but it's

728
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Speaker 1: like they've been open to the idea and talking about

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Speaker 1: wanting to have Lamar Jackson on the team long term,

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Speaker 1: and they built essentially their entire offense and identity around him.

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Speaker 1: He has lost his number one ride receiver, he's got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of new people around him. It wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: he's got us new starting center, a new starting right tackle.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be the worst time for him to show

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Speaker 1: up and build a little bit of chemistry. And in

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Speaker 1: the end, it's Lamar Jackson that has shown very little

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Speaker 1: interest in hammering out a new deal with his own

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Speaker 1: you know, he's his own agent essentially. I'm sure he

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Speaker 1: has some reps around him that are giving him advice.

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Speaker 1: He's hanging back, and I guess I want to say,

741
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Speaker 1: no big deal, because you know, on social media and stuff,

742
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Speaker 1: he's been very pro Ravens. But it just seems a

743
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Speaker 1: little strange to me, the timing of it, the way

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Speaker 1: it's being handled, his absence for an offense that's influx.

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Speaker 1: I don't love it. I would like to see And

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Speaker 1: I know Grap's cooking something up here because he's been

747
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Speaker 1: very um attracted and aroused to this story and Lamar

748
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Speaker 1: Jackson's contract plans and and his ability to maybe change

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Speaker 1: the way things are done or whatever. I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: Gregg the runway in a moment, but I'd be curious

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Speaker 1: how many starting quarterbacks like what has been the participation

752
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Speaker 1: level of the quarterbacks, because if he's very much in

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Speaker 1: the minority, I guess I put a little bit more

754
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Speaker 1: into because he does have a h he has some

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Speaker 1: new players there and he's why don't just talk about

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Speaker 1: right now, like Kyler's not there, tom Brady's sometimes there

757
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: but sometimes not. Aaron Rodgers is not there, so that's

758
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Speaker 1: just but yeah, I'm trying to think of like this season,

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. I would like to have like

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Speaker 1: the data, like what is the overall number compared? Almost

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Speaker 1: all of them are almost all of them are there

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Speaker 1: because you know when someone's not um. But tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: for instance, has skipped quite a few lately, like Rogers

764
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Speaker 1: isn't there. Generally younger players, they're they're almost always there.

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Speaker 1: If it's not a contract thing. Lamar is like twenty

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Speaker 1: or twenty six, you would qualify, I think, even though

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00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: he's an established veteran at this point, don't you think though,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying like I don't care about tom Brady

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Speaker 1: being there or not, because I don't have to in

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Speaker 1: any way question tom Brady's fortune with almost any team

771
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: he's been on. There haven't been long tom Brady. You know, contracts,

772
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Speaker 1: standoffs or weirdly handled contracts situations for the most part,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not I get it like a big chunk

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Speaker 1: of it is that they're doing something else to working.

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00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: We know Lamar Jackson's working out too, He's got a

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Speaker 1: private QB coach. It's like, I'm not really questioning his

777
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: all in this, but this situation with the Ravens just

778
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Speaker 1: feels elongated, prolonged. Well, I think I think what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, because it's like, is he

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Speaker 1: is he staying away because he has an issue with

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Speaker 1: the state of negotiations or is it the other thing

782
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: that we've heard, which is he's not really looking to

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Speaker 1: negotiate because he wants to take maybe that Kirk Cousins route,

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00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: so he's in no rush. Is there something to read

785
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: into it. It's hard to say right now, but he

786
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Speaker 1: wasn't We know he wasn't thrilled with trading Marcus Brown

787
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: Marky's Brown over to Arizona. But other than that, we

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Speaker 1: haven't really heard anything about Lamar Jackson being upset. If

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, right, I don't. I don't put too

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Speaker 1: much into it. It's O t A S. I also

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00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: think my whole idea he's trying to change the game

792
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: contract wise might not be right. I mean, that's my idea,

793
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: and that's some people's idea of like what he can

794
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: and should do. I did, I did some digging on this.

795
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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone really knows if that's what he's

796
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: doing or not. It probably is contract related to me.

797
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I I think he's waiting for an offer

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00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: and they sent one and he was just like no.

799
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Speaker 1: And you can say that's not negotiating, or you can

800
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: just say your offer wasn't good enough, give another offer. Um,

801
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: it all depends on how you want to play it.

802
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: That apparently is how Lamar Jackson's playing. It doesn't seem

803
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: to worrisome, but it's it's something to keep an eye

804
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: on his relationship between them and the Ravens. Absolutely all right,

805
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: I'll throw one out there. Um listen, you know this

806
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: is trope season. It's all over the place now. We

807
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: talked about little thick boy Zack Wilson. We heard that

808
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: your boy Greg up there in New England. Mac Jones

809
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: has also been he's getting shredded. He's putting on muscle everywhere.

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00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: You're hearing it, right, But the one that's my favorite

811
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Speaker 1: so far this offseason. It's in Big D and it's

812
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb who said he's added ten pounds of muscle

813
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: during the off season, but also he grew half an inch.

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Speaker 1: He grew and Ceedee Lamb turned t I did some

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Speaker 1: digging on this. You don't talk about digging, Rosie. I

816
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: did some digging. Ceedee Lamb turned twenty three years old

817
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: last month, and it's nice to be twenty three. We

818
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: all remember what it was like to be twenty three.

819
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of exciting things going on in your life,

820
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: but the one thing that you're not doing probably is

821
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Speaker 1: getting taller by twenty three. And I did some research

822
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: and I um reached out to Dr Alan Watson, an

823
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Speaker 1: opt optimologist, a highly respected doctor that I found on YouTube,

824
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Speaker 1: and this is what he had to say about human growth. Generally,

825
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: most individuals have reached of their ultimate height by eighteen

826
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Speaker 1: years of age UM. Some people are a little late

827
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: bloomers and they can grow into their late teens early twenties,

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Speaker 1: but generally speaking, one people are usually the size that

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Speaker 1: they will end up. Thank you, Dr wat er Allen Watson,

830
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: discussing the growth processes that affect both men and Wicken.

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Speaker 1: Thank you the sign off. He signed off. Dr Watson.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I don't know if you're actually an established doctor,

833
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: but you're giving me the information I need. Wow. Wow,

834
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Speaker 1: what you didn't grow? You're lying to me, You're lying

835
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Speaker 1: to all of the CD I you know, I had

836
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Speaker 1: this high in my list because I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: of myself at twenty three, what not of mind suddenly

838
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: going through growth spurt? Two point oh. I'm not saying

839
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Speaker 1: one point oh was that um spectacular to begin with?

840
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: So it's like this would have been an incredible thing

841
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: to happen in your early twenties. Didn't say. He didn't

842
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: say it doesn't happen. He said, it's very unlikely by teens,

843
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: some people do in their early twenties. Here, no, I

844
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: think he meant. I think he meant like twenty maybe one.

845
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Speaker 1: I'm sure some people in the world have grown at

846
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: age twenty three that height. Now, is it statistically very unlikely?

847
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: I guess so. But ceedee Lamb is an incredible specimen.

848
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 1: Here's here's some more data, and he is an incredible specimen.

849
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: He's one in a million, but he's still human. As

850
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: I made. He made your wide Receiver draft, which the

851
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: listeners voted uh was the best between me, you and Phoebe.

852
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: But he tilted the scales. You missed it. He made

853
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: something ridiculous. Rules in the middle. We're gonna get to

854
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: a second. Once the growth plates in the bones clothes,

855
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: a person will generally not grow any taller. Most females

856
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: reach their full adult hype between fourteen fifteen. Most males

857
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: reach their full height by sixteen. It is very unusual.

858
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: And now this is just from the internet somewhere for

859
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: a person to grow after age nineteen. So you're telling

860
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: me four years later, lamb shooting up. I ain't buy

861
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: that's still very unusual. Does not mean you great? Can we? Yeah?

862
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: Well all right, great dry Can we drag you out

863
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: of the urgent? Care to give us the data on

864
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 1: the wide receiver draft? Um with me? Greg and Phoebe? Sure?

865
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: So Dan one pretty handily um about people voted and

866
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: um on Instagram stories. Okay, that's right, good job and Dan.

867
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: Dan took of the vote, Greg the vote, and Phoebe

868
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: took seven percent of the vote. Well, I'm too nice

869
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: to do a guest of the podcast, but you can't

870
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: put it. Put Kyle Pitts in the conversation. I knew

871
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: she was done once she did that. I thought, you know,

872
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: one thing she did was worry about just building an

873
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: actual NFL team and not worry about the voters, like

874
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: I could have got a J Brown with my last

875
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: vote that are in that I was worried about THEO.

876
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: Her team that she built makes sense to me as

877
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: an end NFL team, and Kyle Pitts is a wide receiver.

878
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: He was just that was that the task to get

879
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: like a true X, A Y, and a well yeah

880
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: were build a room, build a room, yeah, like what

881
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: your your room would be, be complimentary and whatnot. But

882
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: um dance team was great. I'm not I'm not really

883
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: denying it. I I liked mine. I think if he

884
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: hadn't given me a ridiculous rule where I had to

885
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: take Godwin in the third round because I needed a

886
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champ, then my team would have looked a

887
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: lot different. So I did give you the option also

888
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: picking an sp winner, so you actually had two data points.

889
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: No one, No one knows who. Alright, thank you won

890
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: the s um you know, just like Good Morning Football

891
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: finally beat p t I for the best morning show

892
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: or best I don't know what the category was, but

893
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: shoutout studio best studio show. That's a big deal. Um,

894
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: I too feel blessed and honored for this uh and

895
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: humbled quite frankly for this victory. Greg as yours. UH.

896
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this story about Javon

897
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: Kinlaw this week. Either of you guys did see I did? Okay.

898
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: So he got into a little dust up with a

899
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: writer named Grant Cone, who is the son of a

900
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: long time annoying agitator in San Francisco, Lowell Cone. And

901
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: it sounds it seems like I've never heard of his

902
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: son before, but it seems like that, you know, the

903
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: apple doesn't fall far from the tree. This dude in

904
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: the setup. Okay, go ahead. I I well that he

905
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: is the person that it's making me say what uh,

906
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: And let's let's just like listen to it. So apparently

907
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: uh kin Law went up to him a little bit

908
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: at practice. They had a conversation, and then Cohn tried

909
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: to make content out of it. Eventually kin Law ended

910
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: up calling into uh Cone's show. So we have a

911
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: little clip here, a couple of clips. You don't know me,

912
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: you don't know where I'm from, but pec on my name, brother,

913
00:49:54,680 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm a man just like you what I said about

914
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: bigger than yours. Respect on my name, alright, alright, from

915
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: respect on my name. Brother. Stop talking about me like

916
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm an animal or something. Brother. I don't

917
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: know why we needed to beep out nuts or balls.

918
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you can say balls some words. Yeah,

919
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: I feel like just is hooked up on life support.

920
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: So you got okay FC, you can't say boss, okay um.

921
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: I appreciated ken law last comment there, like, stop talking

922
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: about me like I'm an animal. And I made this

923
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: mistake too as younger, and I probably still do it

924
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: now that sometimes you forget that these are people and

925
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: this guy who I did a little research into what

926
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: he said and things like that, it's it's a bit

927
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: of a stick and he's treating them as sort of

928
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: like characters in the play that he's playing. And uh,

929
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: it's okay if an athlete wants to come back at

930
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: him a couple of times. I've got a couple of

931
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: more clips because it just I was watched the whole

932
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: thing and wait, what did he say that? I'm sorry,

933
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: what did he what? The initials? He's basically been calling

934
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: him a bust for a few years and making up

935
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: little like nicknames, how he's always in the training room,

936
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: and just things like that, kind of making fun of

937
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: making fun of the guy over the last couple of years.

938
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: Nothing I don't think happened too recently that that was

939
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: like one specific thing. But I think he saw the

940
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: chance of these guys are back at O T S.

941
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stare this guy down, uh and tell him

942
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: what I think. You don't even understand that. Nobody walks

943
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: with your brother, don't want a new job? Nobody walks

944
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: with you? What does that mean? What do you mean?

945
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: Would it mean nobody with you? It's pretty obvious what

946
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: it means, and nobody, nobody cares. But also kill shouldn't

947
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: go on the show then, because he's just given this

948
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: guy what he wanted. I know, and I am too ultimately,

949
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: and I feel a little bad about that. But I

950
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: have another clip yet I did. Let's see it again.

951
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: Do you like to come on here and try to

952
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: bully people on the internet? But when I pressed up,

953
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: when we are in person, you shaking like a cow

954
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: with voice lighting in my baby? What's up? What's up

955
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: with that? Do you think I'm scared of you? Am?

956
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't give a you are not. All I know

957
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: is when I walked up on your body, temperature was

958
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: cold as ice. Oh. I mean the reaction from this guy,

959
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 1: Grant Cohn, after all this happened on the on the field,

960
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: by the way, was to immediately go tape a video

961
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: which I also watched on the field recounting it. And

962
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: it was later that day that kin Law then went

963
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: on his show being like, even when you're recounting the story,

964
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: you're not telling the truth. He looked at this and

965
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: this interaction as like, I'm gonna make it into content.

966
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it into my name being bigger and

967
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: and it worked, but that you don't get any respect

968
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: for that. And that's what makes me say, what what

969
00:52:51,560 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: what what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

970
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: Not enough? Somehow? No? And at the same time that

971
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: that soundclip is coming from super serious journalist Greg Rosenthal.

972
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: So we do live in a murky time. There's no

973
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: way around me. And I'm not saying I'm a super

974
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: serious journalist. I'm just saying, uh, you know, you're getting

975
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: what you deserve here. Of him calling you out, if

976
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,479
Speaker 1: you're trying to use these interactions is just to build

977
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: your name up. That was that was wild. And I

978
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: just want to know what Kila was eating during that.

979
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: I know I saw at the very beginning he had

980
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: just finished stuff in his face with something and he

981
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: continued to chew, and that was that's the kind of

982
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: a not so subtle disrespect move. Also, but I'm like

983
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: the camera's pointing down as he's chewing, and like chewing

984
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: out this guy, like the high high probability of food

985
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: flying out right on the lens iPhone there. And I

986
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: don't think you call um. I don't think Grant can

987
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: call him a friend of the show the way that

988
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: we would move people that guested on ours. It's and

989
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: I feel bad promoting this, and I think the whole

990
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: thing is unfortunate. John Lynch actually got them together to

991
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: to like try to make it more professional the following day,

992
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: like in his office, and I'm sure they're best friends

993
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: and um and and it's all it's all stupid, but

994
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: it's late May, and I just thought our listeners need

995
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: to hear this interaction. I thought it was all right,

996
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: give us one more mark. I I do. I would

997
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: like to talk about a friend of the show, someone

998
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: that um, uh you know, visited with us during Super

999
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: Bowl Week and we were quite enamored as a group.

1000
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 1: Um for good reason. We loved him as a player

1001
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: to begin with. But but the person also, and you

1002
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: know a lot of these stories that are so annoying

1003
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: in May is that so and so is seeing the

1004
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: game move slow. Where all this noxious it's just junk

1005
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: flots um. But then you get a player that goes

1006
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: out and shows you in his actions that he's going

1007
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: to completely change his physical body. And I think, Gravedigger,

1008
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: if you're well enough, if we could talk about Justin

1009
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: Herbert's body transferm nation um this offseason. But it really

1010
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: dates back to how he looked when he hit town

1011
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: as a rookie graver. Let's take a look. That's him, Um,

1012
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, looks like he looks like he just woke

1013
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: up at it at home. Just understand that it's a

1014
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: photo of him early in his career, right, and he

1015
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: looks he looks like build wise kind of like us,

1016
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: like you just sort of standing there. But then let's

1017
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: go to last offseason, Justin Herbert prancing down Beefcake boulevard.

1018
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: This is a picture of him, um at what I

1019
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: would assume to be camp but his arms now are

1020
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: looking kind of like he's in a Marvel movie. Suddenly,

1021
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: but now this is just one year later, very recent.

1022
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: Look at him. Now he's on the beach. If you

1023
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: can't see it, if you're listening, just imagine they definitely

1024
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: can't see it well, but they can go check it

1025
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: on YouTube. This is not lost. It's out there, this

1026
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: picture of him now standing to it next to a

1027
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: much smaller human being. I could be Daniel that he's

1028
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: growing beard, so I don't think so. But Herbert has

1029
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: gone through a genuine body transformation and he already was

1030
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: sort of, um, a bit of a hunk. So it

1031
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: makes me say what, what what what what? What? I

1032
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: do have one concern because do you ever see why

1033
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: does it make you say? What? For the course for

1034
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: these guys left for you in southern California. It gives

1035
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: anyone hope that you can just take the next couple

1036
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: of months and like amp up your own body if

1037
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: you need to. He had a very awkward exchange with

1038
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: the reporter about it this week too. I don't know

1039
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: if you saw there where they were just like, oh,

1040
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, what have you been doing to work out? Yeah?

1041
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: Essentially that was the questions back and forth, and he

1042
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 1: was like asking how much he lifted and it got

1043
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: kind of awkward. Well, it's like, that's what this whole

1044
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: thing at this time of year is for the guys

1045
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: show up and these reporters, um, you know, there's not

1046
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: so much you could ask about. It's kind of like

1047
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: a little low low saying in the news calendar cycle.

1048
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: Right now, it's like, oh, you look a little bigger.

1049
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: What have you been doing? What are you putting up?

1050
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, it's not a lot of territory,

1051
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: and it is striking. You're right, Mark, I hadn't seen

1052
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: that picture. That is I also like this, this is

1053
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: beyond my knowledge and perhaps I should be more plugged

1054
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: in on such things. But like with the Zach Wilson thing,

1055
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: he went from two oh two at the end of

1056
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: the last season now he's twenty one, and they asked

1057
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: him how did you do it? And he said, well,

1058
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: I got a real sweet tooth, so I had to

1059
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: cut out all those things, and my mind was like

1060
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: struggling to wrap so you could not eat anything sugary

1061
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: to put on weight, but you still put on nineteen

1062
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: pounds or whatever it was in the course of six months. Well, right,

1063
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: you don't want to pounds of like Reese's pieces. Ways, uh,

1064
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: you know a lot more. The heaviest I've ever been

1065
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: was the one time I actually was like in great

1066
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: shape in my entire life. I waited about ten more

1067
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: pounds and that was And that was like the one

1068
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: time I ever had a body that could compare with Marx.

1069
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: Right now, they had this like mountain run where we like,

1070
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: we're racing up mountains fifteen miles for a couple of months.

1071
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: Physical pearance. All right, I think I'm up. Hey, So

1072
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: remember remember this. This is a report from Pro Football

1073
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: Talk and the final day of February, for multiple sources,

1074
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: the Dolphins planned to pursue Sean Payton to be the

1075
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: coach and Tom Brady to be the starting quarterback of

1076
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The plan was scrapped after Brian Flores filed

1077
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: his lawsuit against the NFL, accusing the league and its

1078
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: thirty two teams of discriminating against him and other black

1079
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: coaches for their hiring practices. Florio later double down as reporting,

1080
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: adding more depth, writing the Dolphins privately acknowledged that they

1081
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: had contacted the Saints about the possibility of hiring Peyton

1082
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: as to Bray. The Dolphins privately acknowledged that there have

1083
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: been discussions about Brady becoming a minority owner of the team.

1084
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: And then remember this, Flora's also alleged Brian Flora's, now

1085
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: an assistant coach of the Steelers, former head coach of

1086
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. For Flora's also alleged ind his lawsuit, that's

1087
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: Stephen Ross, the owner of the Miami Dolphins, pressured him

1088
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: to tank the nineteen season and offered him one thousand

1089
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: dollars for each game the team lost. And to that,

1090
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: I say, what what? What? What? What? What? Remember this?

1091
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: Remember that this was and is a thing that is

1092
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: happening around the Dolphins. Did we forget? Did we just

1093
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: move on? As a football Gagner's Sandy, And you see

1094
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: this outside football as well. I'll use an example in

1095
00:59:55,160 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: the geo political sphere. Um. Remember I few months back

1096
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: when Russia invaded Ukraine, and immediately everyone the immediate consensus

1097
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: was this had the potential to turn into a huge

1098
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: human rights violation of epic proportions, and it was the

1099
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: biggest militarized land grabs since Hitler was involved in the

1100
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: nineteen forties and late thirties. And we're all like, this

1101
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: is really bad news. But I know this is still

1102
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: something that's heavily reported, but you feel like it's kind

1103
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: of faded from the national consciousness a little bit um

1104
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: on am obviously a much impossibly smaller scale like in

1105
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's like a similar situation with what's going

1106
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: off the Dolphins, where that's this a huge, massive story

1107
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: that connects directly uh with the Miami Dolphins and their future,

1108
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: and this whole Tom Brady story, Like we all everyone

1109
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: doing their handwringing, including Baker Mayfield himself about oh woe

1110
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: is me? Like I'm not loved by my team? And

1111
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: then this report came out that the Dolphins were trying

1112
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: to get Tom freaking Brady to take over as the

1113
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: quarterback and Mike McDaniels like, oh man, this guy is

1114
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: a little different, he's a little outside the box. He's

1115
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: gonna be good for this organization. They didn't want Mike McDaniel,

1116
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: they wanted Sean Payton. And now you have this potential

1117
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: tanking investigation that the NFL wants to head up that

1118
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: could lead to god knows what in terms of penalties

1119
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: if it's proven, and nobody talks about that. Everyone's just

1120
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins. They they're they're feisty, they got Tyreek Hill.

1121
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on. Why why do? Why do what? Do? What's?

1122
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: It's well said when it comes to the Dolphins, Like

1123
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: I feel like Stephen Ross is not even like the

1124
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: owner under the most fire right now, it's it's Dan

1125
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: Snyder if you if you would have to choose one.

1126
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: But Roger Goodell was asked about this the last time

1127
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: he was taking questions, Um, that was that one of

1128
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: those league meetings, and there was essentially a non answer.

1129
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: The investigation is ongoing, uh that you know, they did

1130
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: that one for Hugh Jackson awfully quick, but this Stephen

1131
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: Ross one is just ongoing. And you're right, it's a

1132
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: it's an absolutely insane story that both problems of it

1133
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: are insane, but especially the florist prong of it. Like

1134
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: you want to see this league handle it with respect,

1135
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: handle it with some self respect, Like I'm not expecting

1136
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: them to boot out Stephen Ross necessarily, but man, do

1137
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: something about it. I'm with you, but I yet, I'm

1138
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: not surprised on any level. I agree with everything you said, Dam,

1139
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: but look at the Jerry Jones situation in that building,

1140
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: and it's like nothing happened with that. I mean, the

1141
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: investigation is ongoing, but we've already talked about the Raiders

1142
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: and Kaepernick today, which sales the Mark Davis and other

1143
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 1: junk that's happening inside that building down the river. Because

1144
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: we just pay attention to the newest Colonel. It's partly

1145
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: on the viewer, like the consumer, the media, the reporters, everyone.

1146
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: It's like that we live in a time where like

1147
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: whatever happened yesterday that we're all up in arms about

1148
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: UM doesn't even exist a week from now. The Ukraine

1149
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: thing is a little bit. That's probably the American UM

1150
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: side of us coming into it too. I think we

1151
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: are particularly like naval gazing country and and and just

1152
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: the proximity right other parts of the world probably have

1153
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: not lost their focused on the Ukraine and focusing on

1154
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: where we are. But like the Miami also orchestrating a

1155
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: double O seven style yacht meeting with Tom Brady to

1156
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: discuss ownership, and the ownership happened again this offseason. The

1157
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: whole thing, the whole idea, and that necessarily wouldn't have

1158
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: involved him quarterback, in which that seemed a little far

1159
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: fetched to me, that he would be part owner but

1160
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: not necessarily playing or not necessarily playing right away like

1161
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: these are. It's one of the wildest stories we've ever heard.

1162
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: You're right, and it's it denied. No one denied it.

1163
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: It's one of the craziest stories involving the biggest player

1164
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: in the history of the sport directly. And what you're

1165
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: saying is right, And that's I guess part of the

1166
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: point I was making that how is the NFL going

1167
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: to handle this right? Are they going to do right

1168
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: by Brian Floors? Is the investigation to be fair? But

1169
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: also just in general, the Dolphins are spoken of as

1170
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: a team on the rise, and it's like until all

1171
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: this is cleared up, and I'm like even more zoned

1172
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: in on the situation involving the tanking allegations. If there's

1173
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: like a smoking gun there that's going to ruin the

1174
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: franchise for years in terms of what you would think

1175
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: the damages would be in terms of penalties. I like,

1176
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: when you're just the rivalry thing comes out, you know

1177
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: just a little bit. I mean also, we on our

1178
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: show spent a season in like delving into the fish tank.

1179
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: I think we were on the tanking thing well before

1180
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: these charges. I mean they also spent to see them

1181
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: talking about deflated football's. I mean that would drive drive

1182
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: West nuts me too. I just was a little quiet

1183
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: about it. And and yeah, this is a lot more

1184
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: serious I think than than that. And you see how

1185
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: that well it's funny too, like you mentioned that. And

1186
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: first of all, yeah, the Patriots what cheating I was terrible,

1187
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: but like, uh, tom Brady directly involved with that storyline.

1188
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: Brady directly involved with this story. Uh not his essential

1189
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: participant in everything and some of the more salacious details,

1190
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: but in terms of like he's in the center of everything,

1191
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: he's like the fort. Like what's more like insane than

1192
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: the fact that Tom Brady like destroyed his cell phone.

1193
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: In other realms of like how the legal system works

1194
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: and people get caught for X, Y and Z, destroying

1195
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,479
Speaker 1: your cell phone, for instance, like in a murder case

1196
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: would make you look immediately guilty. And it's like I

1197
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: like that we're doing this again. No, I mean, but

1198
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,439
Speaker 1: he but he's right there like that you don't. We don't.

1199
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: Now we move on to the sports side, going to

1200
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: come back from the show and just appear it would

1201
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: be right now and he would just be yelling. I

1202
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: don't know if Wes was a fan of destroying your

1203
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: cell phone. I think the rest of it annoyed him.

1204
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's just the story. Well Tom Tom Brady's

1205
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: got his um, his crypto to fall back on. So UM,

1206
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: all right, Greg, do you want to close things out here?

1207
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: I will. I'm gonna close out um with yah. Something

1208
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: that happened at practice yesterday for the Cleveland Browns, and

1209
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: it was Anthony Walker, their linebacker, having a press conference

1210
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: and after one question, DeShawn Watson stopping the press conference

1211
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: and doing like a supposedly like spur the moment thing

1212
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: where he gave some Rolex a Rolex box during Anthony

1213
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: Walker's press conference as payment for the fact that Anthony

1214
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: Walker gave Deshaun Watson number four and that the two

1215
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: men hugged, and it led to a big headline on

1216
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: Cleveland dot com. Deshaun Watson presented a rollox watch, fifty

1217
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: K donation to his school, and a season of suits

1218
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: all to Anthony Walker, and it was this moment and

1219
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: they're hugging and he's laughing about and Anthony Walker said

1220
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: he was not gonna open the box in front of everyone. Um,

1221
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: and it's just like you're not You're not fooling anyone.

1222
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: Maybe you are fooling someone, because the the whole idea

1223
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: was like, this guy has been a great teammate. Oh,

1224
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: I love the way they do this. He waits till

1225
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Walker, of all people, has a press conference and

1226
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: waits for that little moment to have this phony, little

1227
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: fake uh thing to show that he's a good teammate.

1228
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: And it's like, I know, the Browns fans or or

1229
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: people just don't want to hear about Watson's Like how

1230
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: come you're not moving on from It's like they're not

1231
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: moving on from it either, Like Deshaun Watson is not

1232
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: moving on from it. He won't be moving on from it.

1233
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: This is gonna be part of his life for a while. Um.

1234
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: And so like we we can't either. And part of

1235
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: it is this little like phony charm offensive that's like

1236
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: a pr strategy that you just can't take seriously. It

1237
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: just makes me like makes me like a little sick.

1238
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: And you saw his lawyer come out this week and

1239
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: start doing the rounds to kind of fight back supposedly

1240
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: against the women that um his accusers that spoke on

1241
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: HBO Sports. And it's all happening at once, and it's

1242
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: just like, come on, man, like no one is, no

1243
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: one with their right mind is falling for this uh.

1244
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: And it just makes me, you know, it makes me say,

1245
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: what am I doing? Like ruining a fun segment? Like

1246
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: what what um with talking about the Shawn Watson. I

1247
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys saw the HBO Real Sports

1248
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: with Brian Gubble see Ashley Solace UM, one of the accusers,

1249
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: and Sauce and another accuser, Kyla Hayes, both provided details

1250
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: of the meetings with Watson UH and both said they

1251
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: were offended. They feel offended by the two thirty million

1252
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: guaranteed contract the Browns gave Watson. Slace said, it's just

1253
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: like a big screw you. That's what it feels like

1254
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 1: that we don't care. He can run and throw and

1255
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: that's what we care about. Added Hayes, it was sick

1256
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: to me. I felt like he's being rewarded for bad behavior. Well,

1257
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: and I mean, but Greg, I know you, I know

1258
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: you feel like no one's falling for it. But I

1259
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: think on the other flip side is that there are

1260
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: a lot of people willing to ignore um huge chunks

1261
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: of what's happening at that position to the Cleveland Browns

1262
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: and up because of what he can do. I mean,

1263
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: I think it would be a terrible time to be

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Speaker 1: on the social media team of the Browns, where even today,

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Speaker 1: right minutes before the show, they're putting out you know,

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Speaker 1: on field drills for Watson's throwing this perfect deep pass.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, like I feel really comfortable

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Speaker 1: with the idea of walking away from that experience as

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Speaker 1: a fan, But there are huge chunks of Browns fans

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Speaker 1: that have just said I'm forging on, we want to win, right,

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Speaker 1: And I get that. I get that, it's just this.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think, like if you watch the interviews

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Speaker 1: with the women and and what what they said he

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Speaker 1: did and everything, it's like, I don't think there is

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Speaker 1: a moving on until there is some contrition and the

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Speaker 1: whole idea. And if you watch the clips from like

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Speaker 1: his depositions which were part of the HBO thing, it's

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Speaker 1: like he's still just lying all the time. He's lying

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Speaker 1: and not showing any contrition and not not really trying

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Speaker 1: to move on and live with what he did. He's

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01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 1: living a lie. And that's what when I saw this

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Speaker 1: stupid moment in the press conference, that just felt very

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Speaker 1: much like living a lie. And it's like, you're not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to move on from all of this,

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Speaker 1: and you won't because you're gonna be in court for

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Speaker 1: the next year and unless you change your mind on

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Speaker 1: how you're gonna approach it. Their Browns are really posting

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Speaker 1: o T eclipse of him completing passes and things been

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Speaker 1: going on. It's been going on for weeks. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like other stuff that he did too. I mean there

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Speaker 1: they are taking the stance of we are celebrating the

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Speaker 1: football side of this, and then they're an impossible situation

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Speaker 1: because they sort of have to to I I honestly

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Speaker 1: don't know what they could do. It's just the situation

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Speaker 1: that they're well, what they could do was not signed

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Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson. That's what I mean. I mean that

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Speaker 1: the social because what I think they've been especially and

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Speaker 1: it's not just them, because we know the Saints and

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01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: the Falcons and other teams wanted this guy in their

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Speaker 1: quarterback room. But it's the Browns ultimately got them. Like

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Speaker 1: there's a level of obliviousness, uh and obtuse nature to

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Speaker 1: not understand the layers that have come with this. And

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01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: now every time you post the Shaun Watson throwing a

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01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: spiral on your Twitter feed and like how beautiful is this,

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01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: there's a large segment of the population that are like, oh,

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01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: that's gross, this is gross. Why is this happening? And uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they get that yet. And maybe they

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Speaker 1: do get it, and like you're saying, they have no choice,

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01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: the people that work for the organization, You just gotta

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Speaker 1: move forward. But that's not where the cases, that's not

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Speaker 1: where the victims are. It's Uh, I think they get

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Speaker 1: I think they get it. I don't think Watson. I

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Speaker 1: think Watson is living in a disassociated state to some

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Speaker 1: degree about his own reality. But he had no point

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Speaker 1: has had people around him willing to help him, like

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Speaker 1: face this, because I actually think it's a forgiving country.

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Speaker 1: It's a forgiving certainly fans in general. There there's absolutely

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01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 1: a way he could address this and move on, but

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Speaker 1: he's he's not wanting to so miss me with like

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Speaker 1: this fake watch bulk right, And to Dan to your point,

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Speaker 1: I think that there were I would say at most

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Speaker 1: five to ten people that made this decision to to

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Speaker 1: pursue him, to sign him, to do to use the

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Speaker 1: money that way. I mean, the future money is insane,

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Speaker 1: and they they valued that higher than whatever reaction would come,

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Speaker 1: including the fact that you've had three people in that

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01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: building that might feel very differently about this that have

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Speaker 1: to go along with it. Not your fan base, your

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01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: own kids, the kids of the fans. You know, I

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01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: don't know. It's super messy, and we can it's very clear.

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Speaker 1: Their actions, which we talked about all episode, tell you everything.

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go, that's what bah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Did get heavy there, but you know it's good. It's

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Speaker 1: important to talk about it. Can't let the can't let

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Speaker 1: this team and this player off the hook. Well, and

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01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: we were we were batting around this segment idea yesterday

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Speaker 1: and then this clip passed me and it really did.

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Speaker 1: I was just you know, in my room, like flipping

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Speaker 1: through Twitter and I and just uh, I couldn't help it, naturally,

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01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: just out of my mouth came, what what what we

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: we lost? Justin He's gone now what what? What? What? What? What? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't need the long version. Okay, thank you, all right.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to look now before we say goodbye. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at the post good Fellas Rayleio to catalog. It's

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01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: a little rough, it's a little touch and go. He

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01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: did Feel the Dreams in eighty nine. He does Good

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01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: Fellas in ninety which is one of the great one

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Speaker 1: two punches. Uh and at that point he is the pick,

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Speaker 1: I would say, or one of the picks, is the

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Speaker 1: leading man of the nineties. Just never really happened for

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Speaker 1: ray but he did work steadily. I did like I

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Speaker 1: remember the movie Unlawful Entry and ninety two he played

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01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 1: the crooked cop. I think Madeleine Stow was the female

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01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: protagonist in that film. Sounds familiar, but it's not something

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Speaker 1: I've watched in recent days. I don't know dos the

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Speaker 1: anything jumped out to you, Mark, he was Blow. I

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01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: think he played Johnny Depp's dad and blow. That was

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01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: kind of an important comeback vehicle for him. Taking a

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Speaker 1: look here. Uh No, I mean after after some of

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Speaker 1: those since City, some people enjoyed the Wild Dogs. I know, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you were a big Wild Dogs guy. Anythink Travolta, I

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Speaker 1: know you're I mean that was that was like those

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Speaker 1: we've got people. Let's put him in some cowboy outfits.

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Speaker 1: They were their motorcycle guys. And then of course yes,

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Speaker 1: uh Flock of Dudes two thousand sixteen. Check it out.

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01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: Check out Flock of Dudes. Give bobcast Joan and Jay

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01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: z um Walt, my friend Brian live in some that

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Speaker 1: sweet sweet royalty money, some of that mailbox money, some

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01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: of that. Open up the mailbox and you get money.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's like sixty cents or whatever,

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01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: but every every stream of Flock of Dudes helps the enterprise.

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01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: We need something like that. We need something just to

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Speaker 1: make us royalty mailbox money. Yeah, you know, maybe the

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Speaker 1: e true Hollywood story. Um. I don't know if that

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Speaker 1: would get a lot of royalties because we wouldn't know it.

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01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: I did mention. I dropped that maybe a commercial, give

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Speaker 1: us some commercials. One other thing you miss mark during

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01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: your time away. Uh. I dropped a little nug to

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Speaker 1: Andrew Marshaan that we were in negotiations on a contract.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he's been digging since then, let's get

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01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: us I wonder if that would create um an article

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01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: with the seismic uh impact that some of his recent

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Speaker 1: ones is. I don't think so, but you neither. It's

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01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: a it's a popular Niche basically handed him a piece

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01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: of thread and he's like, hey, you want to pull

1386
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: on this, you want to tug, take a walk? You

1387
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 1: can if you don't, that's cool too, that's good. Like

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01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: looked at the piece of thread and wait a second,

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01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: my phone's ringing. It's dan Orlovsky and drop the thread.

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Speaker 1: All right, good app Good to have the gang back together. Braver,

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01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 1: get well soon you're a real warrior. He'll be back

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01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: on a plane with his significant another on Monday, so

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01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: that's cool. So we'll be back with a new episode

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01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, So look for it on Tuesday. And thank

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01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: you everybody for listening. We got a bunch of exciting

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01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: things coming up down the pike as we head into

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Speaker 1: the summer. So keep listening, keep believing, right, Mark, that's

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Speaker 1: the That's what I would say. That is you've said it, well,

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Speaker 1: keep keep believing in whatever it is that you believe in,

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Speaker 1: and until then, heed the call. M P. The Port