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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man that time of week.

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Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Froderwick condy lyon from the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas. We'll take you

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Speaker 2: up to three m Pacific, six am Eastern and Man, tonight,

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Speaker 2: I think I've got about ten hours of content. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to try to get into four. And yes, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna give the Dodgers or Flowers in a minute. And

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Speaker 2: I want to get to some of the college football

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Speaker 2: takeaways today which were somewhat significant in a minute. And

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Speaker 2: I sometimes like to say, in a world of questions,

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Speaker 2: we've got answers. In a world of problems, we've got solutions.

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Speaker 2: And before I get to the aforementioned topics, I have

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Speaker 2: to begin with this preamble. In two thousand and four,

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Speaker 2: while I was in Detroit with CBS Radio ninety seven

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Speaker 2: two hundred shows with Rob Parker, and thanks to Rob,

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Speaker 2: I had additional access to the Pistons I might not

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Speaker 2: have had, but of course we covered that team. In

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Speaker 2: two thousand and four, the Pistons beat the Lakers won

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Speaker 2: the World championship in five games. They were led by

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Speaker 2: a guy named Chauncey Billups, who not only led the

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Speaker 2: He was a leader, He was a floor general.

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Speaker 1: He was clutch.

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Speaker 2: He had the name mister big Shot. Most of you

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Speaker 2: I have an intelligent audience. Most of you already know

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Speaker 2: that I brought up Chauncey quite a bit three years ago,

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Speaker 2: four years ago, when he was hired by the Portland Trailblazers.

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Speaker 2: And what was on my mind? Assume I know he

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Speaker 2: was a good player. How would he be as a coach?

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Speaker 2: What might it look like three years from now? Could

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Speaker 2: he master game management, substitution patterns? Could he maximize players

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Speaker 2: coming out of timeouts? How would he be in situational

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Speaker 2: points doing a typical phonetic NBA game? Could he assemble

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Speaker 2: a good staff? But in the end, if you'd have

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Speaker 2: told me in three years he'd be arrested by the

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Speaker 2: FBI as part of what looks to be an incredibly

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Speaker 2: salacious gambling probe, You're gonna knock me over with a feather. Now,

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Speaker 2: all I'll say about this is this, because I'm extremely

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Speaker 2: well researched, and I promise you as we get into

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Speaker 2: I'm going to break down these allegations. What sports figures

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Speaker 2: are involved, how are they implicated, what are the specifics

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Speaker 2: of the alleged illegal activities. We're going to get into

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Speaker 2: all of this, not in the periphery. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: the potential for additional fallout now we're hearing miss a

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Speaker 2: know what you don't know and nobody knows nothing. What

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Speaker 2: I do know is this that the optics of this

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Speaker 2: alone very much undermine the integrity of this institution. And

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Speaker 2: that's wonderful that Adam Silver is deeply deserved. Well, what

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Speaker 2: are you going to do about it? And by the way,

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Speaker 2: what gambling NBA scamble would be replete without the mention

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Speaker 2: a bit. Be part of our Midnight Hour, be part

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Speaker 2: you just don't know what you just don't know. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: how about those Los Angeles Dodgers. I thought they'd beat

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Speaker 2: looking to repeat for the first time in twenty five

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Speaker 2: This team's been to the World Series five times in

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Speaker 2: Their first, second, and third hitters are all former MVPs.

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Speaker 2: So what showed up tonight showed up tonight because this

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Speaker 2: Tell me what it's going to be tomorrow. Try to

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Speaker 2: be right. One out of three times you saw what happened,

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Speaker 2: so we don't need to belabor it. I already can't

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Speaker 2: it all right. What was also beauty today? Marcel Reed

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Speaker 2: You know you can't right off Texas yet. They're kind

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Speaker 2: We want make decisions. So we're now we're defacto owners.

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Speaker 2: We don't want that coach. You're firing them. We're getting

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Speaker 2: Sunday and Monday. Nobody better to have than our guy. Yep,

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Speaker 2: You are a contest officionado. How are you doing in

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Speaker 5: Mixed bag? Bernie so got one left of free in Survivor,

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Speaker 5: several other contests. But you know what, I'm not in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's why I don't do these contests anymore.

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Speaker 2: You're sixty six percent in your one hundredths. I was

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Speaker 5: Oh, let's go with you know I'm going to do

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Speaker 5: As the Great John Goodman once said in Revenge of

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Speaker 2: Love though now memories are long. I saw that and

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Speaker 5: Well, what a set up you gave me? So Philly

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Speaker 2: Hundred and twenty you know, isn't playing tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, it doesn't matter. Kaile Cousins rated exactly the same.

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Speaker 5: they both just have to win the game. Bernie, what

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Speaker 2: Well, the good news is Kirk Cousins is really good

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go with the And by the way, if

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Speaker 5: You know, besides, I bet zero Bernie. But if you

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Speaker 5: an outstanding wager. Tampa Baker, what's left to them? Mike

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Speaker 5: Evans injured? Now you know a bookwa Their star rookie

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So the Dallas Cowboys have no defense and they're

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Speaker 5: set bo Nix's total pass yards at two forty three

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Speaker 5: Where I'm pretty confident the Broncos are gonna be like,

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Speaker 5: don't screw it up, Nix and just hand the ball

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Speaker 5: off over and over to Dobbins. I never be two

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Speaker 2: I'm talking with Steve Physic five, the only two time

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Speaker 5: Yes, so we'll go with DK Metcalf. You know, it's

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Speaker 5: Let me give you one more here. I'm sorry. I'm

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Speaker 2: And a half. All right, sure enough? Now, Tomort, Well,

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Speaker 2: you played some tight end prop overs on Sunday? Am

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Speaker 5: This is the most ridiculous thing ever because you would

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Speaker 5: like script it. It's a reminder to script extra play.

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Speaker 5: So dald and Schultz, Yeah, you go ahead, look for

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Speaker 2: Sorry, with Steve Fik to physic five, it would not

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Speaker 2: So let's jump this Sunday night the Bears. I'm not

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Speaker 2: interestingly enough is the Bears lead the NFL and takeaways

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Speaker 2: I feel, even with Tyler Huntley, like this is a

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Speaker 2: You're right?

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Speaker 5: Baltimore's one in five. They need the game like blood.

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Speaker 5: The Bears are four and two with incredibly phony wins,

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Speaker 5: enclicting it twenty five to twenty four back to back

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Speaker 5: God's sake, Yeah, that they got completely outplayed by So yeah,

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Speaker 5: That means they're the right side last two and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that one was six and a half four days ago.

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Speaker 2: So you talked about a go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I think you're going to

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Speaker 2: Let's stay on Sunday night, a game I'm really looks

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Speaker 2: forward to seeing Green Bay at Pittsburgh. Josh Jacobs has

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Speaker 2: beat every single team in the National Football League. If

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Speaker 2: he beats his old team, the Packers. I actually like

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Speaker 2: the Steelers here, Fez catching points at home your thoughts.

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Speaker 5: As does everyone else. Because the Steelers were plus three

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Speaker 5: I have done terribly this year, Bernie. But I concur

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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be a really close game. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 5: ten days. I love teams off the mini by when

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Speaker 5: they had a bad game on Thursday, nobody gets any

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Speaker 5: By contrast, the Bengals, you know, when they beat Pittsburgh Thursday,

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Monday night where Washington no Jaden Daniels.

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Speaker 5: I want to make an extremely ridiculous statement. Washington can

427
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Speaker 5: win this game outright, okay, and here here's why. Because

428
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Speaker 5: Kansas City easiest win ever against the Raiders thirty one nothing,

429
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Speaker 5: the Raiders only run thirty plays, and Andy Reid is

430
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 5: bad in back to back games. In general, teams are

431
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Speaker 5: bad off sutout wins. Remember how the Chiefs when they

432
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 5: went fifteen and two wouldn't win any games by margin.

433
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 5: They would just coast knowing they were the better team.

434
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Speaker 5: I think we're going to see that on Monday night.

435
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a war. I could

436
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 5: only bet Washington, even with Mariota Washington as their weapons back.

437
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 5: This is not a gimme game for Casey.

438
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Speaker 2: Can Washington stop anybody on defense? Though, that's the issue.

439
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 5: Couldn't stop anyone last year and they were in the

440
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 5: NFC title game.

441
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that's an excellent rejoinder. Let's move on. Denver

442
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: comes home. The host of Dallas Cowboys are a lot

443
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Speaker 2: of fun to watch, in my opinion, Number one in

444
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Speaker 2: points per game, number one in the yards per game,

445
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: but thirtieth in defense. Give it up to Dak Prescott.

446
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: I've dogged him over the years. I'm not this year.

447
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: I'm tipping my cap to Dak Prescott. Four games in

448
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 2: a row with three or more pass touchdowns. But Denver,

449
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: this has to catch up with him at sunpoint. I'm

450
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: not saying it's going to Sunday two wins. When trailing

451
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Speaker 2: by fourteen or more points in the fourth quarter and

452
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Speaker 2: the Broncos are fresh off an eighteen point deficit in

453
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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, comeback. I gotta tell you, Uh, they've

454
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Speaker 2: beaten Dallas seven times in a row. But I feel

455
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Speaker 2: like Denver has been whistling through the graveyard a little bit.

456
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: Could you see the cowboys hanging this number or even

457
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: winning out right face.

458
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 5: Whistling in the graveyard calling out the girl friends? A

459
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 5: good reference there. The I'm going to talk about math,

460
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 5: boring math here, Denver was minus three and I would

461
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Speaker 5: have whistled Denver minas three and talked about how you

462
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Speaker 5: were styling with that bet. And here's why, Bernie, because

463
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 5: if you laid minus three, I think you would have gone.

464
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 5: If you would have bet at one hundred times, you

465
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 5: would have gone fifty wins, forty losses, ten ties, so

466
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 5: the ties out that's fifty five point five percent. That's

467
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 5: as good as it gets for a pro better fifty

468
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 5: and forty. But now Denver's laying three and a half.

469
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 5: And guess what those ten tis become losses. They make

470
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Speaker 5: a bet like this, one hundred times you go fifty

471
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Speaker 5: and fifty, you pay the big and you lose. So

472
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Speaker 5: the number got away from you. I have. I think

473
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Speaker 5: you make an ext one case for Dallas getting down ten,

474
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 5: coming in the back door and losing by three.

475
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Speaker 2: All right, So this next game I'm really conflicted on

476
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Speaker 2: because you never like to lay a touch down on

477
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Speaker 2: the road. Although just last week over Dom, de marcos

478
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Speaker 2: I told Jeff whitelog I respect a lot that you

479
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 2: could possibly take Tennessee plus the seven points in New

480
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: England's going to kill them, And he said, wow, that's

481
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Speaker 2: your third game in a row on the road, bubbla. Well,

482
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 2: it turns out grabbing Tennessee and then seven points was

483
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Speaker 2: a fool's Errand Okay, I don't want to grab Caroline

484
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: in the seven points, but I'm afraid to lay them.

485
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott and Buffalo eight and no coming off of bye,

486
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: and the Bills are looking to avoid their first three

487
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: game losing streak and I don't know how long. But

488
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: what's interesting the Panthers are looking to win their fourth

489
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: straight for the first time in seven years. Andy Dalton

490
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: will start for the Panthers. He can still play a

491
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 2: little bit. I'm very conflicted about this game, although I'm

492
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: afraid I'm gonna look up in Buffalo be smoking them.

493
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Speaker 2: Your thoughts.

494
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Speaker 5: So the book on Carolina when young was quarterback is

495
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 5: that he was really playing well at all and not

496
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 5: good on the road. And I wonder they can't just

497
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 5: beat the quarterback. I think it's true for the entire team.

498
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 5: So the fact, I mean, Buffalo needs the game like blood.

499
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 5: But boy, if there was one teaser leg, I'd be

500
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 5: very careful with them. I wouldn't go to war with

501
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 5: Buffalo can lose this game out right. They remember they

502
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 5: got crushed by Atlanta on the road. Carolina four and three,

503
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 5: first time in a long time Carolinas in confidence in

504
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 5: some home field, I would leave Carolina and.

505
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: I don't know that I believe in transitive property in

506
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: the NFL. But Carolina beat Atlanta thirty to nothing.

507
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 5: With the crazy cork screwing kickoffs were basically Atlanta started

508
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 5: every position at Atlanta.

509
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: Carolina beats Atlanta thirty to nothing, Atlanta beats Buffalo, and

510
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 2: then Buffalo beats It's like you beat me and chess,

511
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: I beat Billy Bardi, but Billy Barty beats you. You

512
00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: can't swear to this stuff out.

513
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 5: Well, you know, but that doesn't happen in chess because

514
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 5: there's almost no variance. I know, I was a state

515
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 5: runner up in high school's Caroline does when they kick off,

516
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 5: by the way, they they have mastered the kickoff and

517
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 5: that's yeah, and that really a little intengibles like that

518
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 5: make it a lot easier to cover seven and a

519
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 5: half points.

520
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: No, it's true, it's true. These kickers are getting smarter.

521
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: They're dropping them inside the five. It's like it's like

522
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: a nine iron shot a wet shot though.

523
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 5: Wow, But but I'm sorry, but they don't hit a

524
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 5: nine r you know what they hit. They hit like

525
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 5: a spinning ugly like like like shanked three iron.

526
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: That's really the green wedge, sixty degree wedge. Yeah, they

527
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: lost it. Yeah, I don't have any good analogies and no.

528
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 5: No, No, it's not lost it. It's a line drive,

529
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 5: and the reason being you want to make it really

530
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 5: hard for the kid for the kick returner to catch it.

531
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 5: You want them quirkscrewing and spinning.

532
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: Some of them do that, but I've seen a few

533
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: lost it too.

534
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 5: That thing is not a good idea. We want to

535
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 5: hit the ugly. The line drive.

536
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: Ones fair enough, fair enough, I got to brush up

537
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 2: on my kicking. That's good kicking knowledge. We're gonna have

538
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: to call you, Steve zig John Stenerot because allowed to

539
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: move until. I hate it. It's the dumbest thing I've

540
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: ever seen. I hate it. Go back to the original.

541
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: Come on, that's a conversation for a different day. Finally,

542
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: last game, I want to talk about the forty nine ers,

543
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: and they're doing exactly what I thought they would do.

544
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 2: They again, they have the DNA. They visit Houston. All

545
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: four Texans losses are by one score Houston. The Texans

546
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: have the distinction of having the number one defense in

547
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: terms of points allowed, but they have a losing record.

548
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: So you look at this game. Now, Niners, fresh off

549
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: of solid win, Semac going bananas, and they travel to Houston.

550
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: They're catching two and a half. Do you like a

551
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: side here? Do you have a thought?

552
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 6: Yeah?

553
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 5: I do like the Texans against You know what, you

554
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 5: should really have your producer Q up by general public

555
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 5: tenderness because the Niners entire team is tender from all

556
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 5: of the injuries that they've had.

557
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: Well, that hasn't stopped him. This This linebacker I can't

558
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: even name his name that replaced Fred Warner last week

559
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: play played his mind off and Mac Jones, who I

560
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: always believed could be a capable more than capable NFL

561
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: quarterback in an NFL game because you can read a

562
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: defense unlike justin fields. I mean, these guys are getting

563
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: it done.

564
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 5: I think it's the falling start. When Warner went down

565
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 5: the whole way and Botha was already down, the whole

566
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 5: team rallied. It's unsustainable.

567
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: That's what it was for one day. No, it's unsustainable.

568
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna argue with that. At some point they're

569
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: going to have their come up. And by the way,

570
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna break down row. Do you have any thoughts

571
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: whatsoever on the Jets Bungles Sunday?

572
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 5: You know what, the Bengals were laying two and a

573
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 5: half just last week in the look ahead. Now it's

574
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 5: so so. Now it's sixth. Did the Bengals just just

575
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 5: win by forty points? That did did Borrow come back?

576
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 8: No?

577
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 5: They had They beat the Stewers by three. The Jets

578
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 5: have been terrible all year long, so how are we

579
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 5: going to really move their power ratings much by one

580
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 5: bad game? Remember the Jets.

581
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: Just remember the Bengals actually have an offense and Joe

582
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: Flacco can still spin it. Justin fields fourteen and thirty

583
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: six is a starter. Here's the narrative out of New York.

584
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: They have to start justin fields. They would be rather

585
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: be starting to Rob Taylor justin fields fourteen and thirty

586
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: six as a starter, all in twenty six when his

587
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: opponent s goes twenty points or more. But I digress fast.

588
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: We only got about two minutes. But I cannot let

589
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: you go. One of the most learned men on multiple subjects,

590
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: I would like to get your thirty thousand foot perspective

591
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: on the news that came out of the NBA this

592
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: week with respect to this betting saga.

593
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, you're not going to like my take.

594
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 5: Nobody does. I am convinced that there are things going

595
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 5: on that are way way, way more rampant than people

596
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 5: would ever believe because everyone that gets caught. It's like

597
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 5: America's stupidest criminals. Like you watch American Greed, and everyone

598
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 5: can embezzle the fifty thousand. When they embezzle the fifty million,

599
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 5: they get caught. And I just think it would be

600
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 5: as easy peasy for like a college ref Bernie could

601
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 5: literally just call a whole bunch of fouls or swallows

602
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 5: whistle and call very few and it would impact the

603
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 5: total about five points. What they everyone gets wrong is

604
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 5: that they set up they don't have a network to

605
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 5: set this up, and they feel like they have to

606
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 5: win every game. You know what, It's okay, you don't

607
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 5: have to win every bet if you win fifty eight

608
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 5: percent of your bets. Think about how easy it would

609
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 5: be for a player to just say I'm going to

610
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 5: shoot seven three pointers tonight and another night I'm only

611
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 5: going to shoot four and is over unders one and

612
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: a half. I mean, no one would ever notice it.

613
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 5: But then what happens is these players are like deep

614
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 5: and dead or whatever, and then they have to Like

615
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 5: in the movie Color Money, the Art of the Dump,

616
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 5: Tom Cruise talking to the veteran there. You got to

617
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 5: make it look like you're making the shot, and hey,

618
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 5: sometime's going to go in. And that's just the way

619
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 5: it is.

620
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: So if I interpret your dissertation there, you're basically implying

621
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: that when they peel back the onion, this is going

622
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: to be far larger and far more reaching than people realize.

623
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 5: Yes, And the best comp I can give you is tennis.

624
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 5: All these one hundred and fifty eighth ranked tennis players

625
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 5: in the world that have been barred for life because

626
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 5: they can't make a living you know, doing that, and

627
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 5: they can make more money through being dishonest. And I

628
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 5: really think not that players making fifty million a year,

629
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 5: but a player making four hundred thousand a year, there's

630
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 5: or a ref there's just too much incentive out there.

631
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 5: And I really I think that they should make the

632
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 5: limits on props for players like that much much lower,

633
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 5: not for most people, but for every person.

634
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: And I think in terms of individual props, maybe you

635
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: can't bet the owners anymore. You're going only be a

636
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: the overs. But we'll talk about this next month. Fez

637
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: that says, if I have a monthly feature, that's great stuff.

638
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 5: Joy your son just make the limits one hundred dollars, Bernie,

639
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 5: and then everything will be on the up and up.

640
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 5: No one's gonna cheap for one hundred dollars.

641
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: Yes, fair enough. I'm gonna send a letter to our congressman.

642
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: Have a good Sunday, my friend.

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Speaker 5: Always a pleasure. Thank you so much, Bernie. Have a

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Speaker 5: great weekend.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you soon. Pal. By the way, for the

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Speaker 2: We are nineteen minutes away from the midnight hour. You

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Speaker 2: already know what one of the top it's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: I'll set it up and what I want to hear

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Speaker 2: from you with regard to the NBA betting Scandalsaga, whatever

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Speaker 2: you want to call eight seven seven nine nine six

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Speaker 2: sixty three six nine, eight seven, seven, nine to nine

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Speaker 2: on Fox. Nineteen minutes away from the midnight hour. From

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Speaker 2: where I live here in Vegas. It's midnight in nineteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: Maybe same with you, but it's the midnight hour, which

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Speaker 2: means you get the last word. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We

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Speaker 2: coverany live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. All right, back of the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio, twelve minutes away from what

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Speaker 2: promises to be an incredibly spirited and interesting and provocative

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Speaker 2: midnight hour eight seven seven nine nine six six three

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Speaker 2: six nine eight seven, seven, nine to nine on Fox.

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Speaker 2: Warm your fingers up. We want to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: The midnight hour is upon us, all right. As you

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Speaker 2: know by now, there were multiple indictments file Thursday in

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Speaker 2: federal court concerning allegations of illegal gambling by current and

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Speaker 2: former NBA players. Now, it's been reported this has the

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Speaker 2: potential to become one of the biggest scandals in American

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Speaker 2: sports because it's a a complex case lots of moving parts.

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Speaker 2: Later on the show, I'm going to break it down

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Speaker 2: who's involved, how they're implicated, what the specifics are of

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Speaker 2: such a legal activity. But think about this. Uh you

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Speaker 2: know last week we said, hey, Tuesday night, the NBA

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Speaker 2: tips it off, But that's not the headline. Instead, the

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Speaker 2: headline is NBA coaches and players and ex players are

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Speaker 2: being investigated. And frankly, I'm curious how this affects the

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Speaker 2: perception of the NBA product. And like I said earlier,

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Speaker 2: any way, you slice that the optics alone undermine the

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Speaker 2: integrity of this institution. What I want to hear from you,

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Speaker 2: folks tonight eight seven, seven nine nine, six sixty three

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Speaker 2: sixty nine, eight seven, seven, nine and nine on Fox

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Speaker 2: Midnight Hour is what was your knee jerk reaction when

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Speaker 2: you heard this? And I know some people are going

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Speaker 2: to want to say, give their thoughts about whether there

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Speaker 2: should be gambling in sports, or this or that or what,

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Speaker 2: you know, the tip of the ice. Per Fine, you

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Speaker 2: can get some commentary to try to try to be succinct,

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Speaker 2: but I really want your knee jerk reaction because I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what mine was. Mine was I was wrong?

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Speaker 2: Why was I wrong because in twenty eighteen when PASPA

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Speaker 2: was overturned, that was a Professional and Amateur Sports Protection

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Speaker 2: Act in nineteen ninety two that George Bush put in.

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Speaker 2: It was overturned by the Supreme Court May twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 2: which basically opened the door. It took it out of

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Speaker 2: federal hands. And only at that point only two states,

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Speaker 2: Delaware and Nevada, were the states you could bet legally.

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Speaker 2: So when this became regulated, and now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: there's thirty eight states where you can bet legally and

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Speaker 2: it's rampant. And how convenient do you have Lebron and

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Speaker 2: Kevin Hart doing commercials during NBA games and ESPN might

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Speaker 2: be reporting on how severe this is, and meanwhile they're

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Speaker 2: advertising their betting app in the corner. Fine, this is

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Speaker 2: the word we're living in my knee jerk connection. I

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Speaker 2: was wrong. I did not know that all hell would

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Speaker 2: break loose like this. I thought there would be guardrails.

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Speaker 2: But in fact, later in the show, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: give you a history of the gambling hullabalooes that have

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Speaker 2: taken place just since twenty eighteen, all the players suspended,

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Speaker 2: all the things that have happened there's been about a

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Speaker 2: dozen of them. Yeah, already. So I was wrong. It's

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Speaker 2: crazier now than it was before. And you might have

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Speaker 2: people going to jail or not. And you got a commissioner,

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Speaker 2: Adam Silver, who looks like he really doesn't know what

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Speaker 2: to do. Not like Pete Roselle in nineteen sixty three

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Speaker 2: when JFK was assassinated, he canceled the NFL the following

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Speaker 2: week and made a command decision. He later regretted it

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Speaker 2: for his own reasons. Roger Goodell seems decisive. I remember

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Speaker 2: Peter Euberoth was a very decisive commissioner. You know, the

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Speaker 2: prior commissioner for the NBA was very decisive. David Stern,

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Speaker 2: I don't know where Silver goes. He says, he's deeply disturbed.

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Speaker 2: So and I'm curious what the internal dialogue is behind

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Speaker 2: the Ivory Tower. This is not good. There's nothing good

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Speaker 2: that's going to come out of this. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know how far reaching it is. We've heard the story

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Speaker 2: is this is a tip of the iceberg, this tip

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Speaker 2: of this beer. It may very well be. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And I'll give you Tim Donnohy's bull prediction later and

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Speaker 2: you know all about him, So just give me your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Don't overthink it. What was your knee jerk reaction when

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Speaker 2: you heard this? I just told you what mine was. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: the NFL is in a growth mode like no other

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Speaker 2: league I've ever seen. When Roger Goodell took over in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and six, I believe it was Paul Taglia

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Speaker 2: who he said his goal was to grow it to

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Speaker 2: a twenty five band dollar league. They're on their way. Well,

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Speaker 2: guess what the next frontier is. Sauny Arabia wants to

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Speaker 2: host an NFL game, and they're making moves already. They're

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Speaker 2: hosting a major flag football tournament next March in which

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady and Saquon Barkley and Christian McCaffrey and they're

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Speaker 2: gonna all play in and coaches. It's gonna be coached

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Speaker 2: by Pete Carroll and Sean Payton and College Dan antcetera.

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Speaker 2: So there's gonna be a flag football classic at the

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Speaker 2: Kingdom Arena and riad sad it. You know, in March

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Speaker 2: and twenty twenty six. They also want to host a

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Speaker 2: real NFL game. There, are you cool with that? I'm

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Speaker 2: not one of these sanctimonious people who tries to play god.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people were pissed off about

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Speaker 2: this comic thing in Saudi Arabia. And if you don't

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Speaker 2: like it, you're welcome on the show. I want to

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Speaker 2: hear what you got to say. So eight seven, seven,

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Speaker 2: nine and nine one Fox eight seven seven, nine nine

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Speaker 2: six six three sixty nine. I want what's your knee

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Speaker 2: jerk reaction when you heard about the NBA betting indictments

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Speaker 2: and what are your thoughts? Are you cool if the

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Speaker 2: NBA wants or the NFL wants to play an international

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Speaker 2: game you don't like they do in London and other

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Speaker 2: cities in Saudi Arabia. Let's hear from you. It's time

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Speaker 2: the midnight Hour and Fox Sports Radio and Bernie Fraddle Show.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It's right you heard the man Berry Final Show keeps

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Speaker 2: rolling right along. We're coming to line from the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas. Take you up

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Speaker 2: to three am Pacific, six am. Just getting started, and

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Speaker 2: as you know, we have a very salacious, provocative pair

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Speaker 2: of subjects tonight for the midnight Hour. The NBA world

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Speaker 2: was shook to the core because instead of Opening Night

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday being the headline, no, You've got NBA coaches, players,

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Speaker 2: ex players all being investigated. And obviously this is an

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Speaker 2: optic that I believe very much undermines the integrity the

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Speaker 2: entire institution. You don't know what, you don't know, nobody knows.

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Speaker 2: Nothing was as tip of the iceberg as it going

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Speaker 2: to go further. Well, we'll see, I guess. And then

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Speaker 2: also the NFL is being pursued by Saudi Arabia. How

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Speaker 2: do you feel about that going to be football next March?

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Speaker 2: Some big names would be playing, but they want a

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Speaker 2: real football game there too, like they have in London

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Speaker 2: and some of the other international cities. It's time for

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Speaker 2: the midnight hour. Let's let's light the scandal. Stephen Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles joins us to start the show. Steve get it started.

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Speaker 8: What do you say, Bernie, So your first topic the

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Speaker 8: the scandal. I have to say that I'm not surprised,

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Speaker 8: and I tend to go along with what Steve Haasik

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Speaker 8: had to say. I've been around corruption in this in

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Speaker 8: this world. Put it like that, and you know, for many,

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Speaker 8: many years, and nothing like this doesn't surprise me. I

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Speaker 8: think there's a lot of people in high places that

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Speaker 8: have been maintaining the Sergeant sols in Hogan's Heroes attitude.

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Speaker 8: For whoever is old enough to remember that show.

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Speaker 2: It's a reflection of the times. I accept your premise.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts, Steve about the NFL game being

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Speaker 2: played in Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 8: I'm not a real big fan of Saudi Arabia governmentally,

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Speaker 8: and that kind of goes hand in hand with the

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Speaker 8: financial status of the royal family of Saudi Arabia, So

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Speaker 8: I'm just not a fan of it.

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Speaker 2: All right. Thanks a lot, Steve, appreciate your candor, you

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Speaker 2: got to the point, and thanks for starting the show

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Speaker 2: off tonight. I understand why people wouldn't be surprised. However,

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Speaker 2: the part that shocked me a bit. Come on now,

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Speaker 2: when you've got potentially the mafia involved, or the crime

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Speaker 2: four of the five crime families, and how the FBI

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Speaker 2: said the poker games were rigged using pretty elaborate technology,

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Speaker 2: That's that that surprised me. Jim in Massachusetts, welcome in, Jim.

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Speaker 2: How are you? Let's heard of your thoughts?

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Speaker 9: He pretty good?

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Speaker 5: Bernie.

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Speaker 10: Uh, this betting thing is huge parenting. It's huge. First

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Speaker 10: of all, Still he doesn't know how well I'm the

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Speaker 10: investigation is going and going on. He doesn't know all

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Speaker 10: that it's involved. And you know the government, they don't

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Speaker 10: go out and arrest everybody until they got all their

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Speaker 10: you know, try don't row. And I think I think

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Speaker 10: they're just looking for some of these guys to roll.

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Speaker 10: And it's it's going to be way way bigger than

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Speaker 10: anybody thinks. You know, I just read in the paper

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Speaker 10: out this way, Jalen Brown says something, Well, you know,

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Speaker 10: the Lee got to prepare guys, you know, for stuff

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Speaker 10: like that. You're a grown up, Joe.

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Speaker 2: And they do they do that.

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Speaker 7: That's the stuff.

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Speaker 2: Dumbest comment forgive me, Jim, stay right here here. They

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Speaker 2: have more symposiums and Carters has pills. What do you

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Speaker 2: prepare the guys?

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Speaker 10: Well, I'm just going by what Jacob.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not barking to you. I just think

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Speaker 2: Jelan Brown.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but the thing is the thing is these guys

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Speaker 10: are making zillions and they're accessible, you can because of

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Speaker 10: where they come from. You know, they never had anything.

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Speaker 10: Then all of a sudden they got a zillion dollars

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Speaker 10: and during this thing is huge thing.

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Speaker 2: So your kneection was, this is going to be huge.

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Speaker 10: Oh, it's gonna be huge, Jimmy mean.

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Speaker 2: You think more more names are gonna come out, more

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Speaker 2: big names, more Oh yeah, oh.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, people are gonna roll on people. It's gonna be

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Speaker 10: it's gonna be uply. I think you know it's.

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Speaker 2: The NFL, Saudi Yeah.

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Speaker 10: No, not Saudi Arabia. I don't even want them going

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Speaker 10: to England to play. I don't even want to go

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Speaker 10: into Island whereverwhere else they go. You know, NFL is

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Speaker 10: that that's ours boy, you know you want to see

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Speaker 10: it come here. You know, why would those guys want

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Speaker 10: to go there play at two hundred and fifty degree heat? Well,

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Speaker 10: why would they want.

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Speaker 9: To do that?

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Speaker 2: Well, so it's money, my friend. I mean by growing

857
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: the game internationally, the NFL has grown exponentially, and Saudi

858
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: Arabia has got deep pockets, and so he saw what

859
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: they did with live golf. So that's that's sort of

860
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: the answer, which I know you already know.

861
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 10: Okay, Bernie flying from flying from Boston to LA five

862
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 10: hours way different than you know, an eleven thirteen hour trip.

863
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: You know that's fair. But that they've played an NBA

864
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: game there, and then you know, the NBA and China

865
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: very similar. Similar. You're not wrong anything else, Jim, anything else?

866
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, one last thing, Kelly will not be coking LSU.

867
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 9: That yip.

868
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so you will not be in LSU. Another

869
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: news water is what? Yeah, I'm going to talk about

870
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: that later in the show. Jim, thanks as always appreciated.

871
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 2: Buddy Kirk in Ohio joins the Bernie Frattle Show. Kirk

872
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 2: is issued for first time calling.

873
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 11: I believe it is Bunny.

874
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: Well, welcome in. Nice to hear from you. What do

875
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: you got for us?

876
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 11: I got a couple of things. I got an idea

877
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 11: to make the NBA better, But I'll talk about the

878
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 11: gambling thing first.

879
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

880
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 11: I grew up going to Cincinnati Royals basketball games. It

881
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 11: was a long time ago, and I think the reason

882
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 11: people watch the NBA is because the athleticism that the

883
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 11: players display when they're out. They're really getting it. And

884
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 11: you know, Bernie, I don't care if they're fixing games

885
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 11: or not.

886
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: I really don't, Okay, But the real thing, I want

887
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: to get you because I want to get to all

888
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: the callers. Kirk, what was the knee jerk reaction. What

889
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: was your first impression when you heard this news Thursday?

890
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 12: It's about time?

891
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 2: No big deal, okay, all right, listen, I respect all

892
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: opinions here Saudi Arabia. Are you down if the NFL

893
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 2: decides to play a game in Saudi Arabia?

894
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 11: You know you can't. You can't stop it. The guys

895
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 11: on the team, the quitting, the managers, the logistics, if

896
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 11: that's what they want to do, you know whatever. Here's

897
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 11: my idea to make the NBA.

898
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: Go ahead real quickly.

899
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 11: First of all, the three point line is only activated

900
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 11: with three minutes to go in the first and second quarters.

901
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 11: At halftime, you come out. The three point line is

902
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 11: activated the whole third quarter. In the fourth quarter you've got.

903
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 11: The free point line is only lit with three minutes

904
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 11: to go. In the meantime, Birdie, to make more action,

905
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 11: all dunks should be worth three points. That promote more

906
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 11: inside out action.

907
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it. I appreciate it, Kirk. Thank you

908
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: for your time, and thanks for taking the time to

909
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: calling tonight as the first time calling. Just hear it

910
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: from you again, Carl and Vegas is a regular Carl

911
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: dying to hear what you gotta.

912
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 13: Say, man, I want's burning. Let's let's get into it,

913
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 13: because I said something last night on the F and

914
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 13: A show and I wanted to touch on it again

915
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 13: with you because you might guy, and you give it

916
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 13: to me straight. I honestly think that a lot of

917
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 13: these guys are missing the key factor, which is and

918
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 13: And first off, I was flabbergasty, not in the way

919
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 13: that the rest of the world is like taken back

920
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 13: and appalled by it. I knew this was going on.

921
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 13: We live in the day and age of modern technology,

922
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 13: you guys, And if we know anything about modern technology

923
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 13: is that everything is tracked and traceable. You did this

924
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 13: type of thing thirty years ago, he probably wouldn't have

925
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 13: got caught. But my key thing is is who snitched?

926
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 14: Who snitched?

927
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 13: Somebody didn't get the bottom line, somebody didn't get their money,

928
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 13: and somebody got upset. Then the other point that I

929
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 13: wanted to bring into this, because I said it last

930
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 13: night and I'm gonna say it again, I feel like

931
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 13: the Gilbert Arenas Rachel Nichols thing isn't as big as

932
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 13: what it should be because just a few weeks ago

933
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 13: Gilbert Arenas went to jail or got indicted for illegally

934
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 13: betting and poker games and stuff like that. Rachel Nichols

935
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 13: said something. He tweets back, I'm gonna sue you for defamation. Yeah,

936
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 13: but again right like the earlier poler said, when this

937
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 13: thing actually gets pulled back, I wonder how many other

938
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 13: the major sports leagues are involved in this.

939
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna take a later, Tim, Tim donah, he's

940
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: got a thought. Keep one thing in mind, Kyle. These

941
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: poker games alone date back to twenty nineteen, and it's

942
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 2: investigation has been going on three years. So the notion

943
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: that this is new, it's new to us. Okay, all right,

944
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: what do you think about what do you think about it?

945
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: NFL game in Saudi Arabia?

946
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 13: Listen, listen. My grandma used to say something that.

947
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 14: That you know to be true.

948
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 13: BS is nothing but chewed up grass from the cow's behind. Okay,

949
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 13: and money talks the rest walks. I'll have the idea

950
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 13: for if you're going to grow the game and you're

951
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 13: gonna get the revenue, get the revenue. It don't have

952
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 13: to be the best game, exactly does. It doesn't even

953
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 13: have to be the greatest game.

954
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 11: Just get the money.

955
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 15: Get the money.

956
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: You get it.

957
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 13: You go move on to the next old deal. I

958
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 13: mean we might see games in Indonesia next. And if

959
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 13: they have the money with the Prince Brunei and and

960
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 13: all the all the royalty that's around the world, if

961
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 13: we can get that money.

962
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 15: Take it for the mother land, take it to Africa.

963
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, not only that, Kyle, They're dying to give it

964
00:50:53,719 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: to us. It's Saudi Arabia. Kyle, always a player. Friend,

965
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: your joy, your weekend. H Martin in Orange, California, back

966
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: on the show. Welcome in Martin.

967
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 16: Hey, Bernie, how you doing tonight?

968
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 17: Man?

969
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: Doing well? By the way I fly. If anybody wants

970
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 2: to know, I'm a little out of it or inactive.

971
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: I got hacked pretty good on Twitter, so you won't

972
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: see me much on that until Twitter gets it fixed,

973
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: and hopefully they will. Sorry to drop that, Martin, go ahead,

974
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: you got the floor.

975
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 16: No, it's okay, Bernie needs your reaction on this whole

976
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 16: poker scandal was man, the Italian mob is still alive

977
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 16: and well that was like my first knee deek reactions.

978
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 16: I'm not a poker player, Bernie, but I've seen rounders

979
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 16: like a thousand times.

980
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Dae yeah, yeah, yeah.

981
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 16: And one of the main rules is if you can't

982
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 16: spot the fish from the first five minutes when.

983
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: You're you're the fish.

984
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 16: So I'm just like the things they were using.

985
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 18: Ear pieces on glasses at trade tables. Mom means like

986
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 18: flappy and juice and threaten Nick, Bernie, I gotta disagree

987
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 18: with you.

988
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 16: Something good is gonna come.

989
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: Out of this.

990
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 16: It's gonna be like the best thirty for thirty we've

991
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 16: ever seen.

992
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: The We're gonna have to wait ten twenty years though, yeah.

993
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 16: Or Adam Saylor movie.

994
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 18: I mean, it's gonna be great.

995
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 16: I just can't wait to see it.

996
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: It's a great call, Martin. If you being quickly on

997
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: the Saudi Arabia and the NFL, I'm.

998
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 16: Gonna I'm gonna date my show right now, or Bernie,

999
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 16: and I'm gonna tell you this Sunday rabything.

1000
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 8: It bugged me.

1001
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 16: I don't care if it's golf, I don't care if

1002
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 16: it's a comedy festival. I don't care if they want

1003
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 16: to buy the super Bowl. This government funded the people

1004
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 16: who did nine to eleven, and I'll never forgive that.

1005
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 16: Doug bless America, Bernie.

1006
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: I love you, Martin, strong stuff. I'll tell you what

1007
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: I think. It's only a second time calling the show,

1008
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 2: but he's bringing it, bringing it all right. We're gonna

1009
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: get to all of you. Michael and North Carolina, Jane

1010
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: in Colorado, Tony and Miami, Alan and Saint Louis, Stephen

1011
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: Kansas City. We're going to get to all of you,

1012
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: and I really want to hear what you got to say.

1013
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fratle. We are company line from Las Vegas,

1014
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,200
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1015
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,160
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1016
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1017
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,120
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1018
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1019
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,120
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1020
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: All right, we're back at the Bernie Frattles Show Fox

1021
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. It's been a strong midnight hour so far.

1022
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: We continue. We head out to North Carolina. We're joined

1023
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: by Michael in North Carolina. Michael, thanks to your patients.

1024
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: What have you got yes tonight?

1025
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 19: Hey, thanks for having me. My knee jerk reaction with

1026
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 19: the gambling scan Chandle in the NBA was that it's

1027
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 19: probably a lot worse than we think. I think it's

1028
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 19: been a lot more corrupt for a long time than

1029
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 19: we know. I don't think the referee scandal got as much,

1030
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 19: you know, it didn't. It wasn't as big as it.

1031
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: Should have been.

1032
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 19: My thought was, I hope Lebron didn't make money off

1033
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 19: this guy he's connected to those letting people now when

1034
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 19: he's not playing games, because we know he loves money,

1035
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 19: we know he loves Vegas. But you know, he's also

1036
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 19: done such a good job of being scandal free throughout

1037
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 19: his career too, so he deserves a lot of credit

1038
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 19: for that. So I don't know, you know, And that's

1039
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 19: unlike our other greatest player of all time, right, Michael Jordan,

1040
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 19: who had the gambling scandal. And I wonder if it's

1041
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 19: worked during the time taking another look back at that

1042
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 19: and looking, I mean, that's just an example of how

1043
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 19: long this has been an issue in the league. I

1044
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 19: always had this is and I'm not an expert, but

1045
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 19: I just felt like intuition about I wonder if he

1046
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 19: had a huge gambling debt and somehow the Jordan.

1047
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:01,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, And then.

1048
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: Michael Francisi spoke out about that. He said, now Jordan,

1049
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: best of his knowledge, Jordan is issue free because he

1050
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: has too much money. Will these guys get into trouble

1051
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: is for the own money they can't pay, and it

1052
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: starts in there. But that's a conversation. I Michael, I

1053
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 2: appreciate your perspective. It's a good one. I want to

1054
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: make sure I get to go ahead. You got one

1055
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: quick point, then I want to get to the Saudi

1056
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: Arabia if you got a.

1057
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 19: Minute, because I never get on the rate. I never

1058
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 19: got to mention it on about the NBA. But my

1059
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 19: best example of a game that seemed rigged during that

1060
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 19: ninety three playoffs when that scandal was happening with Jordan's

1061
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 19: my favorite player of all time, Elijah One on the Rockets,

1062
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 19: is in Game seven against the Sonics, and there's like

1063
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 19: fifteen to twenty calls if you visit that game that

1064
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 19: if they don't go to Sonics way when they win

1065
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 19: in overtime, and then the Sonics go on to lose

1066
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 19: to the Suns, and the sun we never got to

1067
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 19: see Elijah One versus Jordan. If you look it up,

1068
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 19: Jordan and says they had no answer form. If Rockets

1069
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 19: win that, then they're.

1070
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 10: The one three, feeting.

1071
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 19: In the nineties, winning the next two, and it's a

1072
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Speaker 19: whole different story. I just wanted to because nobody ever knows.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll tell you what Michael. I will say this.

1074
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: It's highly speculative, but it's the kind of thought provoking

1075
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 2: comment I like to invoke people to invoke on this segment.

1076
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: So I respect your thought. It's well crafted and I

1077
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: remember that. And of course Michael temporarily retired in October

1078
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: of eight ninety three. Quick thoughts, Saudi Rabi would you

1079
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: like to see an NFL game played? There are your thoughts?

1080
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 19: I mean, if they're still killing people for homosexuality, I

1081
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 19: don't think we can support that. You know, there's so

1082
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 19: much immorality in that country that was built after the

1083
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 19: Ottoman Empire was defeated in World War One by the

1084
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 19: British Empire. Saying, hey, Saudi family of marauders want to take.

1085
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 10: Control of this country.

1086
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 19: Very crubs have been corrupt from the beginning on a support.

1087
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 10: It if you get it.

1088
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 19: If you really want to know about the Saudi Arabi,

1089
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 19: you got to get into the CIA. And if we

1090
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 19: can't even talk about that, and then you got to

1091
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 19: get into the FBI and that's the whole other part of.

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00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: This enough so it doesn't sit well with you. I

1093
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 2: appreciate you taking the time to call the night, Michael.

1094
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: Please don't be a stranger. Jeane and Colorado's out next

1095
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: Welcome into the Bernie Fradershow.

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00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 7: Hi, How you doing fine?

1097
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 20: I just got back from a ball arena, so I'm

1098
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 20: sitting in my driveway. You wanted my first knee jerk

1099
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 20: reaction to the gambling thing.

1100
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what they're getting from everybody, is what?

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00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 20: And I just don't know what in the not flatworth

1102
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 20: Earth world anyone is surprised by and why Adam Silver

1103
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 20: is bewildered by something that is so obvious with all

1104
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 20: the commercials. You go into a sports far to watch

1105
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 20: a game, nobody's watching the game I'm having. I'm a

1106
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 20: five foot tall, seventy year old woman. I'm having to

1107
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 20: tell the guy next to me the place because he's

1108
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 20: too busy.

1109
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: The gambling, well, no, there's no question gambling is endemic

1110
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: in our society. There's no question that it's actually enhanced

1111
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: to the popularity of these leagues. The issue here is

1112
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: you got players allegedly helping set up poker games where

1113
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: people were built out of seven million dollars. You got

1114
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: players leaving games early so their posse can win a

1115
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,479
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars bet. What's in it for them?

1116
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 2: So that's I think the surprise factor, not that it's happening,

1117
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: that to the level that's happening and the big names involved.

1118
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: But your point's taken. You're not surprised.

1119
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 20: Oh no, I'm not surprised because I've lived on It's

1120
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 20: always fair enough.

1121
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: You see where you think you see it all, but

1122
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: sometimes you see all right. The second issue the NFL

1123
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: in Saudi Arabia. They've played in eight other countries. What

1124
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: are your thoughts about Saudi Arabia? They want to pay

1125
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: big bucks for the NFL to play a game there.

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00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 6: You know.

1127
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 20: My thought is they want to see a game. They're

1128
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 20: welcome to come every year in Sleet one.

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00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 2: All right. That kind of says it all on call.

1130
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time to check in and

1131
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: and I appreciate all these perspectives. Really good calls. Tony

1132
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: in Miami, Tony, where the hell you been?

1133
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 6: Oh?

1134
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 7: Sorry, Bernie, you are mister Saturday Live, Saturday Night and

1135
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 7: Live and getting in has been difficult, so I'm going

1136
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 7: to take responsibility. I kind of gave up after five

1137
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 7: minutes of the busy signal, but it's good to hear

1138
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 7: from you, and real quick. In the NFL, real quick,

1139
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 7: I do not I think if they want to do

1140
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 7: preseason stuff there in general, I don't think NFL games.

1141
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 7: If you're playing sixteen seventeen, you need to play it

1142
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 7: in the States. You know this time it's just too

1143
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 7: much on the players and everything football with the way

1144
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 7: it works, I think it's great to have meaningless games there.

1145
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 6: But you know, if they want their.

1146
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 7: League in Saudi Arabia and London, let them start their league.

1147
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think I think it's I think it's

1148
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: a symbiotic relationship. The Goodell's all over it. I think

1149
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: that this is going to add He wants the league

1150
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: to be twenty five billion, and this helps him get there.

1151
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,479
Speaker 2: I'd cynical on my part, but it's also the truth, Tony.

1152
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: You're not wrong, though, It's like where do we draw

1153
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: the line? But I really want to get your knee

1154
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: jerk reaction after Thursday's NBA news All.

1155
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 7: Right, number one, Like the lady before, I said, anyone

1156
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 7: that is shocked by this probably believes that Oswald, you know,

1157
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,479
Speaker 7: Nail Kennedy in five different places in Dallas and sixty three.

1158
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously everything was going on, and I'm not shocked.

1159
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 7: I'd be shocked if they didn't find anything, you know,

1160
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 7: and I think this is brewing for a while. Yeah,

1161
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 7: somebody gave him the white flag to say, okay, let's

1162
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 7: do this now because you know, and we're not going

1163
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 7: to go on that route. But it's just something that

1164
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 7: the NBA, and this goes for all sports.

1165
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 8: Now.

1166
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 7: No one wants to say this, but this, Bernie, the

1167
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 7: sport of betting has now completely overtaken the sport of sports.

1168
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 7: So however you look at it, it's and I love

1169
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 7: you and I love these guys. You're you're amazing, Bernie.

1170
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 7: But sooner or later this just gets you to start

1171
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 7: fading into like Sports Betting Radio twenty four to seven.

1172
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: You know, go ahead, no, no, you know you're you're

1173
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: not wrong, You're not wrong to put the key takeaway here.

1174
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: It's hard. They're already doing that. Some networks are trying

1175
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 2: to do that. The key takeaway I take from you, Tony,

1176
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: and I appreciate your patience and getting in tonight, and

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01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: I'll give you the last word. A second is you're

1178
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: just not surprised. Why are we surprised, even by the

1179
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 2: magnitude and the technology and the implications of what's happening,

1180
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: You're just simply not surprised. I mean, hell, we just

1181
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: had to love. My wife and I were in Paris

1182
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: last year. I did think give you getting the louver

1183
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 2: with a tank, these knuckleheads and the broad daylight. Still,

1184
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: so I guess what you got the last word. I'm

1185
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: all over the place. I'm an idiot.

1186
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 7: No, no, I am too coming at you in two

1187
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 7: or three days, but I will leave you with this

1188
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 7: Bernie somewhere around the left ten eleven twelve years when

1189
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 7: Kobe kind of faded created out there, he was kind

1190
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 7: of the last fashion of you knew the way he played.

1191
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 7: It wasn't not a Kobe not but him and the

1192
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 7: way that league played when he was there. It's kind

1193
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 7: of the end of Stern. That wasn't a bubblegum. If

1194
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 7: we turned into this kind of Chinese video game emoji,

1195
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 7: no one plays defense and somewhere around like I said,

1196
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 7: ten eleven years ago, nothing means anything. Everything goes Marvel

1197
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 7: action universe. You know, threes threes. Reigned Supreme victor Win

1198
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 7: Binyama is going to score one hundred and fifty points tomorrow.

1199
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 7: But honestly, we look around it to.

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01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 2: Who cares right, Soley, I appreciate you man always. You've

1201
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: been a long time caller to this segment, and thanks

1202
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 2: so much for checking in. Now, Alan and Saint Luis,

1203
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: welcome back in. You've been a fixture as well. What

1204
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 2: do you got for us?

1205
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 17: Hey, Bernie, what's going on?

1206
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: How are you, buddy?

1207
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 17: I'm doing fine. As far as the gambling, the gambling

1208
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 17: they can confer, I'm not surprised at all. People have

1209
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 17: been basketball players have been getting suspended for gambling for

1210
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 17: one reason another for a long time.

1211
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: Then having it. But think about it, think about it.

1212
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm I'm with you on that. But Chauncey Billups, I

1213
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: can't say I know Chuncey that well. We used to

1214
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: see hide to each other going down the hallway. It's

1215
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,959
Speaker 2: cats an NBA MVP of the finals. It's a head,

1216
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: a current head coach. Haven't we kind of crossed the

1217
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: new rubicon there? Allen?

1218
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 17: Yeah, Now, I was going to get to that, the

1219
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 17: deal with the with the basketball players. I'm not surprised.

1220
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 17: Now the Chauncey Billup situation is totally different as far

1221
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 17: as you know, rigging poker games there in general, I'm gonna.

1222
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 6: Tell you something.

1223
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 10: They're the words that I use when it comes.

1224
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 17: To that that's dangerous.

1225
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you're.

1226
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 17: Talking about bilking some some guys out of Vegas of dollars.

1227
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 17: And one thing about it, if these alleged families that

1228
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 17: was supposed to being tied to this, once you get

1229
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 17: into this, it's hard getting out. You know, Charlie Bille

1230
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 17: just can't wake up one morning say I'm done with this.

1231
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 10: So you know, this is.

1232
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 21: This kind of goes beyond what he's doing because once

1233
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 21: you once you get connected with some of these mob families,

1234
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 21: you know, you know you're actually you're actually tied to them.

1235
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 2: All right, real quickly, Alan, would you like, are you

1236
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: okay if the NFL plays a game in Saudi Arabia

1237
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 2: they're chasing us?

1238
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 17: You know, I'm I'm I might. I may be into

1239
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 17: the minority, but I'm okay with it. I've heard different

1240
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 17: opinions people saying about people dealing with Ta Sardes. Let's

1241
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 17: face it, Bernie, if you're talking on the phone right now.

1242
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 17: Your carrier probably deals with the Saardies if you drink

1243
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 17: a sauty.

1244
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, you're an excellent point.

1245
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 17: Yes, the Saudis and the biggest thing of all. I heard

1246
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 17: the other guys saying, God bless America.

1247
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 2: But that's great.

1248
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 17: But every time you go to the gas station, something

1249
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 17: we all do, we deal with the Saudis. So it's

1250
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 17: no way of getting around it, is it right? But

1251
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 17: it's funny the business. The American citizens we seen to

1252
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 17: have a problem with it, but as well as the

1253
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 17: business people along with the NFL, they don't seem to

1254
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 17: have a.

1255
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 2: Problem with it.

1256
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 17: But you know, sit in our living room, we don't

1257
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 17: have big as the dollars coming into our pockets, and

1258
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 17: that made the difference.

1259
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 2: So Alan, thanks a lot, man, appreciate you checking and

1260
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 2: cover some good ground. I know some folks like to

1261
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: get a little sanctimonious, but you know what, they also

1262
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: have their right to their personal feelings. Stephen, Kansas City,

1263
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: what's happening man.

1264
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 22: Hey, Bernie, good show tonight. You know, I kind of

1265
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 22: wanted to echo the previous collar there that you know,

1266
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 22: I think a lot of people are going to be

1267
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 22: prized how this how this thing play is at I

1268
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 22: remember seeing some some news items that you don't never,

1269
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 22: you don't ever get away from the mafia. That's that's

1270
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 22: that's the thing is the four families and is your.

1271
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 2: Is your take away? Your knee jerk reaction is again,

1272
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: we're going to be surprised as to how far this

1273
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:22,959
Speaker 2: goes the ramifications. Is that fair?

1274
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 22: No, I'm I'm kind of shocked that it hasn't gotten

1275
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 22: into college.

1276
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: That's what I'm well, I went for my commentary with

1277
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: Tim Donnaher's got to say.

1278
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 22: That that was my surprise. But but everybody knows what

1279
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 22: happened to donahe. I mean, they they got to him

1280
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 22: in club in club fed and and chicken winged him.

1281
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 22: So so you know, all these guys talk big, you know,

1282
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 22: to Chauncey and then and and something that they obviously

1283
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 22: got indeed, but it's just comical to me these statements

1284
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Speaker 22: they were issuing at the end of the week saying,

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01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,959
Speaker 22: you know, through their attorneys, I mean, they just need

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01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 22: to be quiet, take their punishment. You're not going to

1287
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 22: give anybody else.

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01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 2: Well, eventually that's what's going to happen. But some of

1289
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: these guys are going to get three or four year senses.

1290
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna be fun right right, moving on, because

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01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 2: I love you, man, but I want to make sure

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01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 2: all the callers get in if I can real quickly. Yeah.

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01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: Uh football in Saudi Arabia, yes or no?

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01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 22: Well, well, talking about the mafia, you know, the legal mafia.

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01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 22: Roger Goodell of all his mistakes, you know, he needs

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01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 22: to he needs to start fixing the Super Bowl. He

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01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 22: needs to start to start doing a better job of

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01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 22: all he wants is sixty million, sixty million or whatever

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01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 22: expanding is his reach per per year. And I mean,

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01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 22: I'm just this is.

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Speaker 2: Part of it, This is part of that. The end.

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01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: They believe the end is just by the means.

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01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 22: So yeah, I'm so. I'm so over everything to do

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01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 22: with the NFL. I think they're poison culturally. So we'll well,

1305
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 22: we'll see. But my advice to the NBA guys is

1306
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 22: shut up and take take your punishment. Then don't don't

1307
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 22: try and rock the boat because you're you're gonna pay.

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01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: Thanks Steve Andrew and Bakersfield. What have you got for tonight?

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01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 23: What's up, Bernie h I'd say, let's go Dodgers, keep

1310
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 23: your dukes up metaphorically. And my initial reaction to the

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01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 23: gambling thing with the NBA was oh, and Chauncey Billocks, So.

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01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 2: And you know, would you like to see the NFL

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Speaker 2: in Saudi Arabia?

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Speaker 23: Andrew, Well, I don't know if the question would be

1315
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 23: are they an ally and then do they have laws

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01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 23: that promote freedom and stuff like that and kind of

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01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 23: an evaluation.

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01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 17: I don't know.

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01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 2: All right, listen, I appreciate your patience and hanging online

1320
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 2: and your comments, and you hell hold it down there

1321
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 2: in Bakerfields, my little city. Uh David, Los Angeles, Bryston, Texas,

1322
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 2: Otis and Virginia, Greg and Texas. You'll bring us home

1323
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: coming up looking forward to what you got to say.

1324
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: Hang tight. I want to remind everybody with the iHeartRadio app,

1325
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 2: you can stream us wherever you happen to be. Catch

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1328
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1329
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1330
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,559
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1331
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 2: It will always pop up at the top of your

1332
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 2: screen coming up. The midnight hour continues. Keep it locked.

1333
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 2: We're listening to the Bernie Frawdle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1334
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 2: All right, we're back on the Bernie Frawdle Show. We're

1335
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: wrapping it up by the midnight hour. I want to

1336
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: get to all five callers remaining for you, hustle. We'll

1337
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 2: get to Aulia deve in Los Angeles joint. Just David

1338
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 2: looking forward to what you got to say? What do

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01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 2: you got?

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Speaker 24: Bud Okay's going Bernie good?

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01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 17: Okay.

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01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 24: The NBA, my first initial reaction was good for them.

1344
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 24: I didn't like what they were doing here few years back,

1345
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 24: the national anthem being played. They didn't want to put

1346
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 24: their hands all your hard are turning it back and

1347
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 24: Lebron James not criticized in Chinese government but criticizing American government,

1348
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 24: So you know what's.

1349
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 13: Do it for him?

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01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 2: I love it strong.

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01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 24: And that Saudi Arabia getting the NFL change was they

1352
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 24: kind of implicated in those twin towers going down, So no,

1353
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 24: they shouldn't get it either.

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01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: David, really strong call. I know you were patient, you

1355
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 2: waited a long time. You get to two excellent points quick.

1356
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 2: I always respect your opinion. Thanks so much, David, don't

1357
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 2: be a stranger man. Appreciate you. Bryce in Texas a

1358
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 2: long time. What do you got for us tonight? Bud?

1359
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 25: And the first When I first heard about the gambling stuff,

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 25: I guess my.

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01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 26: Only thought is how do the finalist sock of bones

1362
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,759
Speaker 26: is Adam Silver still have a job when the networks

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01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 26: and everyone else has been over Black working for the

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01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 26: NBA get back on his feet and then he just oh,

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01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 26: I'm deeply concerned about this. No, you're not, dude, You're

1366
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 26: not doing anything at all. How much longer is the

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01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 26: NBA gonna allow him just to be nothing but a

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01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 26: sack of bone sitting in front of a microphone.

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Speaker 2: This is strong stuff, all right? Bryce? Wow? Love it

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01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 2: anything on the NFL in Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 26: I think if it's like a season opener, I think

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01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 26: it would be cool.

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01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 25: I would much rather see Saudi Arabia make their own

1374
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 25: league and turn this flag football tournament into a spring league.

1375
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 25: Or retired NFL stars or for like second third strip

1376
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 25: guys that never really get to play.

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01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 10: I think that would be much more interesting.

1378
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 5: And just make a separate branch from the NFL.

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01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: All right, anything's possible in this day and age, as

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01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: we can see. Thank you, Bryce appreciated. Hold us in Virginia.

1381
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Speaker 2: Is this your first time checking into the Bernie Frattle Show.

1382
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 6: No, this is my second time. My name's Odell. I'm

1383
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 6: calling him from Rendell.

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01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry, and I thanks for checking in. I'm sorry,

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 2: didn't remember. What do you got for his pou?

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01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm poor this Suti Arabia. I think that would

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01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 6: be an excellent thing to you know, boost up money

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01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 6: that Roger the goal that Roger Dedare has playing. I

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01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 6: think soon Saudi Arabia will have a lot of professional teams,

1390
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 6: ball people, veterans and trying to just open up doors,

1391
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 6: you know, to you know, bring the revenue, you know,

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 6: bring the revenue up.

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01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 2: So that's that's what I think it's certainly gonna do.

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01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: It's gonna bring a hell of a lot of revenue

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01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: into the NFL, and that's what's driving this. Uh So

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01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: you decided to go the second topic first, which is fine.

1397
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 2: What was your knee jerk reaction when you heard these

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01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: indictments come down on Thursday, Otis Hotel.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Well, that right there is like it ain't

1400
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 6: puzzling to me. You know, I think Pandora's box and

1401
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 6: has already been opened up for years with this gambling

1402
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 6: situation in the NBA. But I mean, you got professional players,

1403
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 6: excellent players that tied into this, and they are messing

1404
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 6: up a chance to get into the Hall of Fame.

1405
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 6: And I feel like a lot of stuff need to

1406
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 6: be tightened and people need to be punished, you know,

1407
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 6: even the commissioner.

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01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 7: He needs to he needs to go.

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01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 2: Really yeah, I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan otist.

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01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, appreciate you, Odell. I'm sorry, thanks for

1411
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 2: checking in second time. Appreciate you. Greg and Texas a

1412
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: long timer. Take it away.

1413
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 9: How's how's it going?

1414
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 27: Man?

1415
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 2: Good?

1416
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 9: Okay, Let's let's go to the gambling scam. And you know,

1417
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 9: the NBA is very vulnerable. See that because you only

1418
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 9: have ten guys to control, you know, it doesn't take much.

1419
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: That is that your need? Is that your need jerk

1420
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 2: reaction that they're very vulnerable to this more so than

1421
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: other sports? Is that primarily or.

1422
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 9: Absolutely?

1423
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 11: Uh?

1424
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 14: And then you get to the Saudia situation. You know,

1425
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 14: I didn't we cancel.

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01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 27: The All Star Game or something because of the Home

1427
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 27: Point Views or whatever it was. You know, it's just

1428
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 27: not it's just a money grab to me, Sure it is.

1429
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 2: There's no question that that's what's driving it.

1430
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's to live in NFL. I mean that's basically

1431
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,879
Speaker 14: what it'd be. But you know, we've got to get used.

1432
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 9: To the dynamic.

1433
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 27: It's there there, all the money, money's there, all right,

1434
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 27: Well the world is shrunk.

1435
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's all driven by the almighty dollar. That's

1436
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: the way it's working. Greg, Thanks so much as always, Uh,

1437
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: Jim and Minnesota will be have the final word on

1438
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 2: this subject. If you couldn't get in tonight, I apologize.

1439
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: I greatly value everybody who takes the time to call

1440
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 2: and it it's a bummer when you can't all get in.

1441
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 2: I like to keep them mid that hour one hour

1442
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: uh and uh. Hopefully if you didn't get in tonight,

1443
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: you'll get in next week a gym in Minnesota. What

1444
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: do you got for us today?

1445
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 15: Well, on the gambling thing, Bernie, I think that it's

1446
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 15: been a long time coming. But it's it's it's corrupt.

1447
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 27: I mean it's it's it's.

1448
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 15: Almost like it's almost like the stock market either you

1449
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 15: know where you don't know, and if you don't know,

1450
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 15: you're the sucker.

1451
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 2: You know. I'm glad you brought that up, because what's

1452
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: interesting is is this has now basically become the NBA's

1453
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 2: version of insadder trading.

1454
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 15: Yeah, exactly. And then as far as the Saudi Aradia there,

1455
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 15: I mean, with the amount of money they got, they

1456
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 15: can pretty much buy whatever they want. Eventually we keep

1457
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 15: spending all our money on oil and gas. I mean,

1458
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 15: they're gonna want everything anyway, so they're probably gonna end

1459
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 15: up going in the NFL some days. So we was like,

1460
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 15: you just used to be playing over there.

1461
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 2: I think.

1462
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 15: I think the way the NFL a lot of work is.

1463
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 15: I mean everybody, every team ought to have to play

1464
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 15: one game overseas. You know, they had to figure it

1465
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 15: out so that we're coming to that.

1466
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 2: We we're coming to that because it has in fact worked.

1467
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 15: Yeah, that would that would make it more fair for everyone.

1468
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 15: You know, just add another bye week at the eighteenth

1469
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 15: game and everybody plays one game overseas well.

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01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 2: Every one of these games are sold out, Jim, and

1471
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 2: the people go gaga over it, whether it's Brazil, Germany, Ireland, England, Spain,

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01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: you name it. Uh, and and uh, and the TV

1473
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 2: ratings are there and it's more games to bet, so yeah,

1474
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: you're not wrong. Anything else.

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01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 15: You got football over here in the morning.

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01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 2: That's right, football in the morning early, all right, thanks

1477
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 2: so much. I want to thank everybody who took the

1478
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 2: time to call in. Now. We uh we de we

1479
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:46,839
Speaker 2: spent most of the subject on the NBA betting scandal,

1480
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: if you want to call it that for obvious reasons. People.

1481
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: That's you know what, what I think the folks know

1482
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 2: the most about and they're the most familiar with.

1483
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 6: Uh.

1484
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: But what's interesting is I don't know that it's been

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01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 2: well publicized as to the NFL. And by the way,

1486
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 2: we got Mark Medina Medina Magic our NBA insider rights

1487
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 2: for essentially sports coming up here top of the hour

1488
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: and at two am, I'm going to give a pretty

1489
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 2: substantial commentary on my thoughts and what I know about

1490
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 2: this whole NBA thing. But here's what has it's been

1491
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 2: under reported. Saudi Arabia is expressing very strong interest in

1492
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: hosting an NFL regular season game, and they've been building

1493
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 2: a relationship with the NFL, and it's started by establishing

1494
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 2: this Fanatics Flag Football Classic, which will take place in

1495
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 2: five months, in March of twenty twenty six, and it's

1496
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,799
Speaker 2: going to include a lot of active and retired NFL players,

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Speaker 2: big names that you've heard of, like Tom Brady and

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01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley and Max Crosby and Pete Carroll's going to

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Speaker 2: be involved. I'm Sean Payton all right. Now. There's been

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Speaker 2: no agreement finalized, but this audio officials have vehemanly stated

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Speaker 2: that they very much want to be the next host

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Speaker 2: of an international NFL game. Okay, you're follow in the

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01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: footsteps of the UK, Brazil, Spain, Germany. What am I

1504
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 2: forgetting Mexico City right on down the line, and so

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01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 2: you can see that their strategy is going to be

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01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 2: to attract big names which will attract eyeballs. And just

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01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 2: because they are doing this flag football thing next March,

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01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 2: that's just a precursor. They're not stopping there. They're not

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01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: stopping there. Tom Brady had his picture taken with one

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01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 2: of the princes, I believe, and they basically said, you know,

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01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 2: Britain got at, Brazil got a Hopefully Saudi Arabia will

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01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: be next. Now, the NFL has not really commented specifically

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01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 2: about that. The NFL has always beat their chest on

1514
01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 2: the international ambitions, but they haven't really commented specifically. The

1515
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 2: truth of the matter is the expenses associated creating the

1516
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 2: infrastructure for the game. The Saudi Arabia has more than

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01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 2: enough money to launch this deal and line everybody's pockets.

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01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 2: So I think my gut feel is I think it's

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01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 2: going to happen eventually. Now it's not on the docket,

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01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 2: but I think I think it's likely to happen. And

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Speaker 2: that's just where we're at again. Thanks to all the

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01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 2: callers of the Men that hour. I apologize if id

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01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 2: to get short, or I apologize if you weren't able

1524
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 2: to get on the air. I value your time and

1525
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 2: your thoughts and your opinions greatly. Coming up, Keep it locked,

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01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 2: We've got Mark Medina, Medina Magic, NBA. Keep it locked

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Speaker 2: to Bernie Fraddle Show.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

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01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Fraddle Show

1530
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Fraddle or

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01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 2: coming line from the Fox Sports Radio studios here in

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01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Take up to three in Pacific, six am

1533
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 2: Eastern and uh no better time to have this gentleman.

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01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 2: On three simple words, It's that time, Mark Medina Medina

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01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 2: Magic at Fox Sports Radio, NBA Guru, and of course

1536
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: he also writes for Essentially Sports. Mark, I always close

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01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 2: the segment let's see what the news cycle brings us

1538
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 2: next week. And we thought we'd be talking about Opening Night,

1539
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: but that's not the big headline of the week. So

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01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,759
Speaker 2: let me start with this question first to quick statement. Look,

1541
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,839
Speaker 2: anyway you slice it, the optics alone undermine the integrity

1542
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 2: of the sport. But you know, I thought we'd be

1543
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 2: talking about Opening Night, that we're talking about NBA coaches

1544
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 2: and ex coaches and players and investigated. What do you

1545
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 2: believe is the internal dialogue now in the Ivory Tower

1546
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 2: since Adam Silver has said he's deeply disturbed.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think that it's those two words plus a

1548
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 12: bunch of exploders. Because this is going to be a

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01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 12: long investigation. I think that it's going to take over

1550
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 12: a year. You know, there's now reports mentioned that the

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01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 12: FBI won Sadam Silver and people with the league to

1552
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 12: testify about this. You know, to be clear, at this point,

1553
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 12: arrests were made, allegations were thrown, but now it has

1554
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 12: to be settled in the court of law, and these

1555
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 12: things take time because all these up people that you mentioned,

1556
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 12: Terry Rosier, the Miami heat point guard, the performer Portland

1557
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 12: Trailblazers coach Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones, the you know, associate

1558
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 12: of Lebron James, They've all maintained that they're innocent. So, uh,

1559
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 12: there's a lot to unpack with each accusation, but bottom line,

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01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 12: this isn't good for the league.

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Speaker 2: Well, which sort of leads to my next question, which

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01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 2: is fairly obvious across the fandom of America. What do

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01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 2: you think this does to the integrity and the perception

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01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 2: of the product itself?

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01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 12: Now, well, it's hard to answer only because we don't

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01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 12: know how deeply rooted this is. You know, this could

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01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 12: very well be widespread, you know, as the FBI continues

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01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 12: its investigation. But if this is all it is, I

1569
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 12: think that the NBA can contain this and in a

1570
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 12: weird way, not that anyone wants it to happen to

1571
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 12: these three figures, but you can make an argument that,

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01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 12: you know what, for all its imperfections, that showed that

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01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 12: the system worked, that having legalized gambling and regulated they

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01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 12: detected all the unusual patterns, and that's really what happened

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01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 12: with specifically with Terry Rozier, because you know, he's a

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01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 12: rotation player, he's not a star player, and there was

1577
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 12: a lot of irregular activity about you know, his rotation

1578
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 12: minutes and a very meaningless scheme. So I think that

1579
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 12: you can make an argument with that, but if it's widespread,

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01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 12: this just shows that it's really hard to contain. So

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01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 12: it's frankly, Bernie, it's hard to answer the question to

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01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 12: that only because this investigation. I don't want to say

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01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 12: it's only begun because the FBA. I didn't get to

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01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,879
Speaker 12: this point arresting, you know, making these arrest on Wednesday

1585
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 12: out of nowhere. This took a lot of time. But

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01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 12: we're in the throes of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I believe the investigation has been going on for

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01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 2: a couple of years. Yeah, and we're not just talking

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01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 2: about insider trading as it were, and knowledge of players

1590
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 2: not playing and inside information about a player who's point

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01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 2: total bet the under and then he leaves the game

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01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 2: nine minutes into the game. But we've also got this

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01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: poker game linked to a guy who's a current NBA

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01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: head coach. And as I said my opening commentary, how

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Speaker 2: covered the U four Pistons. Chauncey Billups led the team

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Speaker 2: to a championship. He was the finals MVP. Now, I

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01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know. Nobody knows nothing. Okay, everybody

1598
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 2: speculating on everything, But when you get to this point,

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01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 2: it's got your attention. It's very serious. So it's not

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Speaker 2: just that it's gambling, and it's not just this has

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01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 2: been going and it's this has now risen to a

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01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 2: new level that the league has to deal with. So

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01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make a distinction here that we've rought

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01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 2: We've crossed a rubicon now where you've got current coaches

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Speaker 2: allegedly involved. Your thoughts on.

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Speaker 12: That, Yeah, I mean when we unpack each specific allegation,

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01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 12: there's a lot here, and none of it's acceptable. Terry

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01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 12: Rozier tipping off you know, gamblers about when he's going

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01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 12: to leave the game and try to hit the under

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01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 12: on that and the amount of production that's unacceptable. It's

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01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:38,719
Speaker 12: unacceptable for an associate in Damon Jones to get inside

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01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 12: information about Lebron James's availability and then tip that off

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01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 12: to gambles. And with Chauncey Billups allegations, that's that hits

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01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 12: a lot of buttons here because, as you mentioned, he

1615
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 12: has been accused of being part of a legal pok

1616
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 12: poker game where there's all this technology to detect what

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01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 12: the hands were and they knew all about that. But

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01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 12: he was also manipulating games because he was, you know,

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01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 12: tanking to increase the Blazers lottery odds, and with that

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01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 12: was also to appease gamblers on the outcome with that

1621
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 12: by having a lot of irregular lineups. So none of

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01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:23,440
Speaker 12: these allegations are great, obviously they're not acceptable, but Chauncey's

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01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 12: is on a whole other level. And I think the

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01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 12: other thing specifically with Chauncey is I think that this

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01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 12: is a lesson that, you know, what a professional's reputation

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01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 12: is doesn't necessarily mean that's what it is in private life.

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01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 12: So while you know, he obviously is entitled to the

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01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 12: court of law here, I think that this was most

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01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 12: surprising because, as you know, covering him with the bad

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01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 12: Boy Pistons, he had a Hall of Fame NBA career

1631
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 12: and he you know, has had some ups and downs

1632
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 12: as a head coach, but the common denominator as he

1633
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 12: was someone who's wideliest respected around the NBA coaches and

1634
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 12: players seen as a very intelligent guy, you know, one

1635
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 12: of those true hoopers, and knew how to relate to

1636
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 12: guys and be very positive and ring out the best.

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01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:20,799
Speaker 12: And that very much contradicts the behavior that we're seeing here.

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01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 12: And these things they don't have to be mutually exclusive.

1639
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 12: All these things can be true at the same time.

1640
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 12: But I'm presenting to you the public side of him

1641
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 12: to illustrate why there's been a lot of surprise around

1642
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 12: the NBA when the news came down that he was arrested.

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01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 2: Which makes you so all the more surprising because Chauncey

1644
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 2: was not a Golden spoon, a number one draft pick.

1645
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 2: By the time he got to the Pistons, he was

1646
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 2: on his seventh NBA team, and he combined a workman

1647
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,799
Speaker 2: like effort with his nickname is mister clutch, mister big shot.

1648
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 2: Here's the thing and the reason I alluded to the

1649
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 2: NBA's conversation behind closed doors and in the every tower,

1650
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 2: the internal dialogue. We get it. Sports wagering has been

1651
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 2: a huge boon to the bottom line. No one can

1652
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 2: deny that. But now it's coming with increased suspicion into everything,

1653
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:14,799
Speaker 2: including outcomes players are being harassed. Do you think perhaps

1654
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 2: the NBA sits down with his partners and said, Okay,

1655
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 2: we like our partnership, but we maybe need to install

1656
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 2: some guardrails in terms of we don't want your booking

1657
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: profits or profits have a minimum of a hundred bucks,

1658
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 2: so you can only bet the over, not the under.

1659
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 2: Can you envision something like that happening.

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01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 12: I can envision them something like this happening. And I'm

1661
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 12: not defending the NBA here. There's a lot of you know,

1662
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 12: I think things you get to be cautious of what

1663
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 12: you partner with, you know, gambling companies, but I want

1664
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 12: to be surprised that they're also going to make the

1665
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 12: argument look like as bad as this looks right now,

1666
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 12: there were guardrails that detected Terry Rozier's irregular betting patterns.

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01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 12: In regards to that. That doesn't mean that there can't

1668
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 12: be more guardrails, but I think that, you know, as

1669
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 12: we're talking in twenty twenty five, clearly not just society

1670
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,879
Speaker 12: and the Supreme Court ruling with legalizing you know, online gambling,

1671
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,799
Speaker 12: but the professional sports leagues towards this. If you would

1672
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 12: rewind this thirty years ago David Stern and the NBA

1673
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 12: they would never want to have anything to do with

1674
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 12: gambling because of all these implications. But I think it's

1675
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 12: the same idea about the nineteen twenties with prohibition and alcohol.

1676
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 12: You know, this is something that can be a hobby

1677
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 12: if you know people are responsible, but it can also

1678
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 12: lead to vices in addiction. But I think from their

1679
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 12: point of view, when you make it illegal, it's a

1680
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 12: lot more difficult to regulate. So what I'm getting at

1681
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 12: is no doubt everyone's motivated by money, and certainly the

1682
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 12: NBA is, and I'm not going to discount that, But

1683
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 12: I think from a practical way, ends regardless of how

1684
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 12: severe or isolated this investigation is, I think that there

1685
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 12: will be discussions with those gambling companies about adding safer guardrails,

1686
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 12: not just to protect consumers from themselves, but to detect

1687
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,440
Speaker 12: and make sure that this is an affecting the integrity

1688
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 12: of the game. But I don't think they're going to

1689
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 12: suddenly do.

1690
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 7: Away with it.

1691
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 12: Again. Money is a huge driving force, but I think

1692
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 12: it's their perspective as well that if all of a

1693
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 12: sudden this is something that we're not going to embrace,

1694
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 12: it's a lot more difficult to be able to regulate

1695
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 12: and get your hands on it.

1696
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 2: One last thing about this talking to Mark Mendina, our

1697
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio NBA guru and a writer for Essentially Sports,

1698
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 2: Terry Rozier was investigated for this very thing two years

1699
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 2: ago by the NBA and they cleared them. That's not

1700
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 2: a good look. And I know they don't have subpoena

1701
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 2: power or some of the resources that the federal government has,

1702
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 2: but what do they seems like a real miss.

1703
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, it's not a good look. And I

1704
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 12: don't mean to be evasive here because we're always can

1705
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 12: especially when we talk here. We call it like it is,

1706
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Speaker 12: and that's why this segment's great. What's going to be

1707
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 12: interesting with this investigation that's going to expose the NBA

1708
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 12: here is did they clear Terry Rosier as an attempt

1709
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 12: to sweep everything under the rug or did this just

1710
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 12: really expose that even though the NBA had access to

1711
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 12: a cell phone they interview, you know, Terry Rozier and

1712
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 12: other people, the fact that they don't have the same

1713
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 12: kind of subpoena power and enforcement that the government has

1714
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 12: limits it. Certainly the NBA hopes that that's what it is.

1715
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 12: We don't know the answer to that, but it's very

1716
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,759
Speaker 12: fair questions for you and I to raise our INTENTNA

1717
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 12: on the key question. And this goes, you know, to

1718
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 12: presidential politics. It's always you know, what did the president

1719
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 12: know and when did he know it? Well, it's the

1720
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 12: same thing with the NBA. What did they know and

1721
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 12: when did they know it? And so this investigation I

1722
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 12: hope provides a lot of clarity to that. And it

1723
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 12: will either show that the NBA, you know, did what

1724
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 12: it could within its own power to take these allegations seriously,

1725
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 12: or it will expose that they knew at least a

1726
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 12: fraction of this and decide to sweep it under the rug.

1727
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 2: One last aspect that can't be ignored. As my wife

1728
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 2: brought this up. We're watching TV either night. She's looking

1729
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 2: at this. She goes, how much this money? This guy

1730
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 2: making his career? I said, I think Terry Rose is

1731
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 2: in a final year. But what a ninety four million

1732
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 2: dollar deal? Well, what's in it for him? He's going

1733
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 2: to help us posse out for two hundred grand, break

1734
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 2: them off if you need to give. What's in it

1735
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:50,799
Speaker 2: for Terry Rozier to do something?

1736
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 23: Like this.

1737
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,879
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I can't speak specifically to terror Rosier.

1738
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 12: I'm not as account nor am I going to pretend

1739
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 12: I know private life matters. I think generally speaking, it

1740
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 12: is a fair question. When you're talking about athletes that

1741
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 12: make a lot of money, it seems like, well, one

1742
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 12: they don't need even more, and two they have way

1743
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 12: much more to lose than to gain. But I think

1744
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:20,520
Speaker 12: that whether you're a multimillionaire athlete or you're an everyday,

1745
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 12: you know citizen here, there are times that you get

1746
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 12: in financial holes for whatever reason, all of a sudden,

1747
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 12: you're doing things out of desperation. So I don't know

1748
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:36,480
Speaker 12: if that's what caused that, but it would be understandable.

1749
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 12: It's not to defend it, but you get where I'm going.

1750
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:44,600
Speaker 12: It's the same analogy when you know people that have

1751
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 12: a stable job but they're making irresponsible decisions on how

1752
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 12: much they're gambling. All of a sudden, they're trying to

1753
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 12: dig themselves out of a hole because they don't wind

1754
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 12: they're going to lose the mortgage and they have an

1755
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 12: empty bank account, and deskper times call for deskper measures.

1756
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 12: And again I'm not saying that's what Terry Rozier was

1757
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 12: facing here. But you know, the general question that you're asking,

1758
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 12: why would someone making that kind of money engage in that?

1759
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,480
Speaker 12: You just never know if that's one of the variables.

1760
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 2: So when we signed off last week, one of the

1761
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 2: topics that I was going to revisit this week is

1762
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 2: what the hell ever happened to the Clippers Kawhi contract?

1763
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 2: You know where I'm going with that is that just

1764
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 2: been dropped like a you know, drop of meg it's

1765
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 2: hot or or you know, you know the question I'm

1766
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 2: trying to ask. I'm just not doing a very good job.

1767
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, Do you mean that one investigations replacing the

1768
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 12: attention of another.

1769
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 2: Well, there's no question that's happened. But what was going

1770
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 2: on with that? You know, did the Clippers allegedly manipulate

1771
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 2: this so they can sign Kawhi back in July twenty nineteen.

1772
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:58,799
Speaker 12: Well that's you know, the NBA is we have discussed.

1773
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 12: They've hired a law firm investigate this. So no, the

1774
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 12: case isn't closed with that.

1775
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:04,640
Speaker 6: You know.

1776
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 12: You may recall when we were talking about this, I

1777
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 12: projected it would take about nine months to you know,

1778
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 12: get a resolution. That's the reason Why I say that

1779
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 12: is the law firm that the NBA hired is the

1780
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 12: same law firm that oversaw the Robert Sarver investigation when

1781
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 12: they're allegations of racist comments and sexism and toxic work

1782
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 12: environment when you own the Suns. Yes, the investigation lasted

1783
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 12: nine months, so I expect that same law firm even

1784
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 12: though it's a completely different case here. Maybe that's how

1785
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 12: they operate on that timeline.

1786
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 2: Well, in more important matters, the Dallas Mavericks you're owing to,

1787
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 2: and they don't look good doing it. They've lost both

1788
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 2: games by a margin of what twenty points or something,

1789
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 2: And I thought the Mavericks were going to be good.

1790
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 2: It's just a precursor. I mean we're two games into

1791
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 2: the season, of course, and they don't have their full

1792
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 2: full roster, but a lot of eyes are on that

1793
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 2: roster with with Cooper Flag and the like and Anthony Davis.

1794
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 12: And look, it also doesn't it's not a good look

1795
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 12: for them. When Luka Doncic scores combined ninety two points

1796
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 12: in his first two games with the Lakers and actually

1797
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:17,440
Speaker 12: set the franchise record. Jerry West had eighty one points

1798
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 12: in the sixty nine to seventy season, and so Luca

1799
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,719
Speaker 12: Magic eclipsed mister Clutch in the first two games here.

1800
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 12: But I think the simple answers, Yes, it's only two

1801
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 12: games and it's way too early to make conclusive evaluations

1802
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 12: on the team. I think Cooper Flag will still win

1803
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 12: Rookie of the Year. I think Anthony Davis will be

1804
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:42,600
Speaker 12: an All Star. I think that they can be a

1805
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 12: playoff caliber team. But you know, there are a lot

1806
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 12: of question marks and also reinforces why the hell would

1807
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 12: Nico Harrison do this Luca Doncic trade in the first place,

1808
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 12: So I think it just reinforces even though I'm not

1809
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 12: going to project there are going to be a lottery

1810
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 12: team this season, they would have been better off even

1811
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 12: with when accounting for the fact that they got the

1812
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 12: number one picks to get Cooper Flag, they would have

1813
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 12: been better off just keeping Luca and riding his magic

1814
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 12: because he's done wonders.

1815
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,599
Speaker 2: You know, well, you're not wrong, and he helped Dallas

1816
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 2: get to the NBA Finals. But I truly think it

1817
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 2: is hard of hearts. Nico did not believe they would

1818
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 2: ever win a championship with Luca, and I believe he really,

1819
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,600
Speaker 2: he really believes that, and for all I know, he

1820
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 2: may well be right. And what's interesting, look at the

1821
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 2: Lakers right out of the gate, I bagged on DeAndre

1822
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 2: eating pretty good. The Laker fans seem to after Game

1823
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 2: one have made them their favorite target already.

1824
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1825
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 12: Well, I mean, there's a lot of questions about John

1826
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 12: Dreiden because you know, he's come with not the greatest

1827
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 12: reputation with how his time ended in Phoenix and with Portland,

1828
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 12: had a lot of injuries and consistent play. I remember

1829
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 12: talking with him in Porland asking, Hey, do you have

1830
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 12: anything to prove, and he says, I got nothing to prove.

1831
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:00,759
Speaker 12: I'm a max player and I'll always be a Max player.

1832
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:02,879
Speaker 12: That did not sit well with a lot of fans.

1833
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 12: And you know, since then, the market's been what it is.

1834
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 12: He negotiated by with Portland and the Lakers got him

1835
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 12: on a relatively cheap deal. But it's the Lakers' championship expectations.

1836
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 12: You did see growth in the second game. I thought

1837
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 12: it was very vivid. In the first quarter, JJ Reddick

1838
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 12: removed him, subbed him for Jared Vanderbilt. He was trying

1839
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 12: to talk to him on the sideline and DA would

1840
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 12: walk right past them. But to his credit, second half

1841
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 12: played a lot better, converted more pick and rolls with Luka.

1842
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:38,719
Speaker 12: Docis made some defensive stops. He did miss an open dunk,

1843
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 12: but ironically, you know, afterwards the Lakers were talking about

1844
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 12: how that was actually a good play because he was

1845
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 12: being aggressive and they started finding some better chemistry in

1846
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 12: that pick and roll. So, you know, I think the

1847
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 12: lesson here with the opening week is there's a lot

1848
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 12: of stuff that happens. There's been a lot of interesting games,

1849
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:04,240
Speaker 12: lot of things to unpack individual performances. But these things

1850
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 12: will sort itself out, not just through radio two games.

1851
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 12: I think it's about maybe like a twenty twenty five

1852
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 12: game sample size, when you really have a grasp on

1853
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 12: what's the big deal, little deal, or no deal. As

1854
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 12: you know, the guys at the Doug Gonway Show looked

1855
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 12: like to discuss on their platform.

1856
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 2: Marc's always a wish we had more time, but I'll

1857
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 2: say it again, can't wait to see what the new

1858
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 2: cycle brings for next week.

1859
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 12: Pal, All right, well, well we'll talk about BRAWNI next

1860
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 12: week once the stuff.

1861
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 2: Look forward to it. We should lead with that. Love

1862
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 2: it all right. On that note, By the way for

1863
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,600
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1871
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1872
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 2: Get your pins and pencils ready. I on Bernie Frattle.

1873
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:06,559
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1875
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:10,920
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1876
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1880
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. Coming to live from the Fox Sports

1881
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 3: Radio studios here in Las Vegas. We're eight and a

1882
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 3: half hours away from another raucus NFL Sunday kickoff as

1883
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 3: the season rages on some good matchups.

1884
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 2: We went over those with Steve Fsick earlier in the show.

1885
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 2: In a couple of minutes here we'll hear about the

1886
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 2: Fantasy files, few fantasy league owners. My son's got a league,

1887
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 2: he's in first place, and did people take this stuff?

1888
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:56,719
Speaker 2: Pretty serious?

1889
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 6: Man?

1890
01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 2: It adds to the viewing participate patient of the NFL.

1891
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:03,759
Speaker 2: A couple coaches I want to give credit to, because

1892
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 2: later in the show I'm going to call out what

1893
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 2: the hell's going on in college? You have nine coaches

1894
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 2: fired and we're not even out of October yet. I'm

1895
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 2: gonna tell you why that's happening, and I'll link it

1896
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 2: together and you'll see there is a There's a real

1897
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 2: lineage and a reason. Liam Cohen give it up. Jacksonville Jaguars.

1898
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 2: When they hired him, it felt like they were building

1899
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 2: up to a playoff contender. That would be a fagazy

1900
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: it would be a bit of a process. Instead, they've

1901
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 2: already got two big statement wins batting the forty nine

1902
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 2: ers in Chiefs and the Jaguars do it in a

1903
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 2: scrappy fashion. They're taking advantage of being in a weak

1904
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 2: division and if Cohen can get Trevor Lawrence playing up

1905
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 2: to the level people thought he would be up to

1906
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:49,600
Speaker 2: when he came out of Clemson. That could push Jacksonville

1907
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 2: over the edge. Liam Cohen was in Tampa Bay last

1908
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 2: year and really elevated Baker Mayfield and the Bucks and

1909
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 2: they picked up where they you know, they left off

1910
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 2: last year. Give it up to Liam colem. I want

1911
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 2: to recognize Todd Bowles too. He's done a great job

1912
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 2: at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The biggest thing he deserves

1913
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 2: credit for is how he's been able to keep the

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01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 2: offense flowing. They don't have Tom Brady there anymore. And

1915
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Speaker 2: after Brady retired, the Bucks hired Dave Canals to be

1916
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 2: their offensive coordinator, but he left her head coaching job,

1917
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 2: and so then the Bucks hired Liam Cohan. He left

1918
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 2: her head coaching job, but yet now they have Josh

1919
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 2: Grizzard and Baker Mayfield. Well, he deserves a lot of

1920
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,879
Speaker 2: credit as well, But it's a testament to Todd Bowles

1921
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 2: and his leadership that he's keeping the team in a

1922
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 2: bit of an unflappable fashion. So we have a tendency

1923
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 2: to throw people under the bus, by the way, give

1924
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,800
Speaker 2: it up to Shane Steiking two in Indianapolis. You know,

1925
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 2: I don't really need to mention Dan Campbell and Kyle

1926
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:48,799
Speaker 2: Shanahan because they have resumes, right, But guys like Shane

1927
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 2: Steiking people don't want to buy into the Colts. We

1928
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,839
Speaker 2: have better. I don't care what you think they're sample

1929
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 2: size in. They're coming off another impressive road went off

1930
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,680
Speaker 2: over the Chargers. Aside from Jonathan Taylor. There's not a

1931
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:03,920
Speaker 2: hell of a lot on the Colt roster in the

1932
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 2: way of superstars. They play offense, they play defense, and

1933
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 2: they've turned Daniel Jones, who knew what they hoped he

1934
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,760
Speaker 2: would be when he came out of dude. All right,

1935
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 2: get your pens and pencils ready, your fantasy team, You

1936
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 2: getting ready to set your lineups? Kickoffs here in a

1937
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Speaker 2: few hours, it's time the Fantasy Files.

1938
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Speaker 3: Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch, your go to fantasy football segment.

1939
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Speaker 7: Are you on one?

1940
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Speaker 2: God when?

1941
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Speaker 28: Welcome to this week's edition of Fantasy Files, And you're

1942
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 28: going to need to listen to this one even more

1943
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 28: so than the other ones because there are so many

1944
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:44,679
Speaker 28: players on five weeks. But let's go into my six

1945
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 28: start suggestions for the week and we're gonna start with

1946
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 28: a lock it in. Start the Vonte Smith against the Giants.

1947
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 28: No Aj Brown, and you can really lock him in

1948
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:56,719
Speaker 28: as your wide receiver one or two or flux option

1949
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 28: this week, and he is guaranteed to get ten to

1950
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 28: fit teen Fantasy points minimum with obviously that upside of

1951
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 28: twenty five to thirty like we saw last week. I'd

1952
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 28: sit Kendrick Bourne against the Houston Texans. This is one

1953
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 28: of the best secondaries in the league. I'd be shocked

1954
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 28: if Juwan Jennings or Kendrick Bourne has a big game,

1955
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 28: especially on National tight Ends Day, which means Kittle's gonna

1956
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 28: go off or at least try to McCaffrey. They're going

1957
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 28: to try and pose their will in the run game

1958
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 28: like they did last week. That's something that they're gonna

1959
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 28: do and have to do to truly beat the Texans

1960
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 28: because the secondary. Mac Johns will throw three picks if

1961
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 28: he tries to throw for three hundred yards in this game.

1962
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 28: I'd start Ted Rowa McMillan against the Buffalo Bills. We

1963
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,719
Speaker 28: know the Bills have had injuries on that defensive line

1964
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 28: and in their secondary over the past few years. It

1965
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 28: seems like their defense is always hurt regardless it's not

1966
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 28: that good, so it doesn't matter injuries or not. Even

1967
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 28: though Bryce Young is not playing, Tedro McMillan should still

1968
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 28: be able to have one of his better games of

1969
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 28: the season, and especially at bounce back because last week

1970
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 28: it wasn't really his fault, but he only got three catch.

1971
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,640
Speaker 28: I'd sit Alvin Kamar against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I

1972
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 28: know Kendray Miller towards ACL and Alvin Kamara is questionable.

1973
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 28: He's been dealing with injuries all year. It seems like

1974
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 28: every year's dealing with injuries. He plays through it. Last

1975
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 28: year was the same thing year before. I believe it

1976
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 28: was the same thing as well. He hasn't had a

1977
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 28: game similarly to last year where he put up four

1978
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 28: touchdowns against the Dallas Cowboys and Kubiak was the OC

1979
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 28: and the Saints looked incredible for a few weeks. That

1980
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:22,879
Speaker 28: automatically got Kubiak poach by the way by the Seahawks

1981
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 28: to be their OS. Which is it turns out like

1982
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 28: it was a great hire and maybe the Saints should

1983
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 28: have tried harder to maybe make him the head coach

1984
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 28: instead of Kellen Moore. But I digress Kamara. It doesn't

1985
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 28: even matter who they use at running back. It's just

1986
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 28: not a favorable matchup, especially since they're gonna behind probably

1987
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 28: the entire game, which means he has virtually no rushing

1988
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 28: up seven will have his fantasy points contingent upon pass

1989
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 28: catching star Kyle Pitts against Miami. He had seven for

1990
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:50,680
Speaker 28: sixty one entering the fourth quarter last week against the

1991
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 28: San Francisco forty nine ers, who, yes, we're banged up,

1992
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 28: but only allowed ten points. So Pitts is getting the targets,

1993
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 28: at least with Michael Pennix. Now, if we remember, Kirk

1994
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 28: Cousins targeted him a bunch when they were playing together

1995
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 28: before kirkopp bench last season. I think it's another big

1996
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 28: game for Kyle Pitts and he's locked it in ten

1997
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 28: to fifteen fantasy points against the Miami defense at is atrocious.

1998
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,800
Speaker 28: I'd sitch a Corey Krossky Merit or Bill as many

1999
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:14,640
Speaker 28: like to call him against the Kansas City Chiefs for

2000
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 28: game script. He's going to have what ETN had last week,

2001
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 28: where ETN was eight for forty four against the Rams,

2002
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 28: but they lost thirty five to seven, so he was

2003
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 28: completely kicked out of the game script that's going to

2004
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 28: be jcm right Chkorey Krosski. He'll have maybe ten carries

2005
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 28: for thirty five or forty yards, and unless one of

2006
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 28: those is a touchdown one of those carries, it's going

2007
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:36,640
Speaker 28: to be a negative game strip because the Chiefs are

2008
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 28: going to be ahead of the entire game. They're going

2009
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:39,679
Speaker 28: to control the clock, and they're going to run the football.

2010
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,560
Speaker 28: I'd start Troy Franklin and Courtland Sutton against the Dallas Cowboys,

2011
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 28: and Bo Nicks at quarterback is one of the top

2012
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 28: starts of the week. I think all those guys go off.

2013
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 28: JK Dobbins too. Dallas has one of the worst defenses

2014
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 28: on football. This is going to be a shootout. Even

2015
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 28: with doubt Denver's incredible defense in Dallas's horrible defense, I

2016
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 28: still think Dallas's offense is so elite that they'll be

2017
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 28: able to put up thirty points on Denver, which is

2018
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 28: why I also like starting the Cowboys players. Obviously, Javonte Williams,

2019
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 28: Seedy Lamb's a must start. George Pickens, like Dak Prescott,

2020
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:10,599
Speaker 28: is a good start at quarterback. All these guys are

2021
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 28: good start. Jake Ferguson mustart right like, I think this

2022
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,719
Speaker 28: is going to be one of the higher scoring games

2023
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 28: of the week. And I think that Troy Franklin, who

2024
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 28: had ten targets specifically him last week, is due for

2025
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 28: a huge game. And we know Son's going to go off.

2026
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 28: It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.

2027
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 28: He's their best receiver against the worst rank defense in

2028
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 28: the league, especially in the secondary. But Franklin, I believe

2029
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 28: will be the two, not Marvin Mims. In the passing game.

2030
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 28: He's going to be utilized. And I wouldn't even be

2031
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 28: shocked if R. J. Harvey is a dark throw start

2032
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 28: and gainst ten Fantasy points. That's how much I think

2033
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 28: these playmakers can thrive against Dallas this weekend. I'd sit

2034
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 28: DJ Moore against Baltimore. The only trustworthy Bears receiver is

2035
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 28: Roma done Say, and I truly believe they're going to

2036
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 28: start utilizing Luther Burden little by little a little bit more,

2037
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 28: and I'm not saying more is going to get traded,

2038
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 28: but I just can't trust him on a weekly basis.

2039
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 28: He hasn't proven to be reliable at all. I'd sit

2040
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 28: Nick Chubb against the San Francisco forty. Now the Niners defense,

2041
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 28: especially in their secondary down Nick Bosa and Fred Warner,

2042
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:07,679
Speaker 28: their secondary has been exploited and can be exploited, especially

2043
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 28: with those seam routes. So I think Dalton Schultz is

2044
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 28: a solid start, and I actually think Nick Chubb is

2045
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:13,360
Speaker 28: a sit because I think the Niners are going to

2046
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 28: sell out to stop the run for CJ to pass,

2047
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 28: try and get pressure on him on blitzing downs. Schultz

2048
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:21,599
Speaker 28: will be the beneficiary of that. With Nico Collins out,

2049
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:23,720
Speaker 28: Jane Higgins might be the beneficiary of that. But I'm

2050
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 28: not saying he's a lot atin start. I truly think

2051
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 28: Citty Nick Chubb is the move this week, especially with

2052
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 28: the way Woody Marx has been playing in Woody Marks

2053
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 28: is a risky start. I'm not saying sit Woody Marks,

2054
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,759
Speaker 28: but he's a risky start. I'd start Rico Daubele against

2055
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 28: the Buffalo Bills. I mean, they started Shoba Hubbard last week,

2056
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 28: and then they realized Rico Dawdle's better, so they gave

2057
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 28: him seventeen carries, which is great, and he bawled out,

2058
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 28: so I would make sure to sit him again. I'm

2059
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:49,200
Speaker 28: Brandon Deutsch on the Bernie Fratto Show with Fantasy Files.

2060
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 28: Make sure to check us out every week BSD Takes.

2061
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:53,759
Speaker 28: You can find me on X and Brandon est Deutsch

2062
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 28: on TikTok. Now, back to the Bernie Fratto Show. Let's

2063
01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 28: all win our matchups this week.

2064
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Speaker 2: Have it does? The season March is on. You get

2065
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:06,560
Speaker 2: closer and closer to qualifying for your league playoffs. And

2066
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 2: every week, every week and every matchup is important. So

2067
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 2: as you speculate and select your lineups, choose wisely. It's

2068
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 2: why we do the Fantasy Files segment. You know, there

2069
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 2: have been nine coaches in college football already fired and

2070
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:30,760
Speaker 2: we're not out of October yet. And those schools, oh

2071
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 2: a total of one hundred and sixteen million already to

2072
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 2: these coaches, this is insanity. But why is it happening? Well,

2073
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why it's happened. It's actually there's a

2074
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 2: very sort of a logical stepping stone sort of a

2075
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:48,719
Speaker 2: progression as it were, that has taken place ever since

2076
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 2: the you know, the the beginnings of the transfer portal

2077
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 2: which led to the nil and I'll tell you what

2078
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 2: it led to next. I'm Bernie fraderwer Comedy lyon from

2079
01:48:58,000 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it lot.

2080
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports

2081
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 2: Radio or back of the Bernie Fraddle Show Fox Sports Radio,

2082
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 2: coming live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios here in

2083
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. You may have noticed that we're not even

2084
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 2: out of October yet, and already nine college football coaches

2085
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 2: have been fired lesson you know, buy halfway through the

2086
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:27,759
Speaker 2: season James Franklin. Of course, the big one Penn State.

2087
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 2: Last Saturday, not yesterday, but last Saturday. Billy Napier won

2088
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 2: a game in Gamesville, Florida, but that didn't save his job.

2089
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:43,600
Speaker 2: Three three and four start, Billy Napier was fired. And

2090
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 2: of course, earlier in the year, Mike undeaed Oklahoma State,

2091
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 2: Sam Pittman at Arkansas to Sean Foster e c LA

2092
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech fired Brent Prye Oregon State, Trent Bray, Alabama

2093
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 2: Birmingham Trent Dilfer. And then right after the hour and

2094
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 2: our more than hours after Florida let go of billion Apier,

2095
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:07,759
Speaker 2: reports indicated that Colorado State fired head coach Jane Norvel

2096
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:11,679
Speaker 2: after they lost to Hawaii and they became two and five,

2097
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:16,000
Speaker 2: and Jane Norville was fired. So there are now eleven

2098
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 2: FBS head coach openings, including interim rolls at Stanford and

2099
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:24,959
Speaker 2: Kent State, and according to a three A reporting agency,

2100
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 2: Florida State officials allegedly held in formal calls about their

2101
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:32,920
Speaker 2: future head about the future of their head coach, Mike Norville.

2102
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 2: Now see, a buyout for Mike Norvel would cost the

2103
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 2: Seminoles about fifty four million dollars, which would be the

2104
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 2: most among all current FBS programs. Penn State James Franklin

2105
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 2: was forty nine point seven Billionnapier was twenty one million,

2106
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 2: and it goes down from there. So right up, we're

2107
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:51,719
Speaker 2: up to one hundred and sixteen million in buyouts and growing.

2108
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 2: Why is this happening? What the hell is going on?

2109
01:50:54,840 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 2: This is craziness. Well, let's go back and you remember

2110
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 2: a few years ago, the NCAA established this little thing

2111
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 2: called the Transfer Portal, so players weren't encumbered to a

2112
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 2: life of indentured servitude when they were playing for the college.

2113
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 2: When I was playing college baseball, if you transferred, you

2114
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 2: had to sit out here Redtree year. That's gone. Transfer

2115
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,600
Speaker 2: all you want now, But then they coupled it with

2116
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 2: nil name, image and likeness, and what that essentially did was,

2117
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 2: let's face it, they've created free agency, a robust free

2118
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 2: agency market in college football. Well, who's footing the bill

2119
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 2: for this free agency The donors and the collectives. So

2120
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 2: these donors and collectives who say, hey, we can pay

2121
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 2: for our quarterback and get them here tomorrow. Well, now

2122
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:51,719
Speaker 2: they feel like the fact of owners. They want input.

2123
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:53,560
Speaker 2: So if they say, hey, we just gave you a

2124
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 2: program twenty three million dollars, this guy sucks, he's three

2125
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,759
Speaker 2: and four, get him out of here or the money's

2126
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 2: going to dry up, Well they're going to follow it.

2127
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 2: See because nil deals are clearly contributing to these college

2128
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:10,679
Speaker 2: head coach firings because one of the things they've done

2129
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:16,879
Speaker 2: is dramatically, and I mean dramatically, increase pressure to succeed

2130
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 2: Quicker and Kurt Signetti at Indy End. It's kind of

2131
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:24,639
Speaker 2: ruined it for everybody. And Clark Lee had Vanderbilt's right

2132
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:29,559
Speaker 2: behind him. All Right, you've got this wild wild West

2133
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 2: and overeth it's allowsy cliche. I get it, but you

2134
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:35,639
Speaker 2: know where I'm going with that. It's created tremendous pressure

2135
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 2: from boosters and in the transfer portalism slowing down, it's accelerating,

2136
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:44,840
Speaker 2: and what that does is disrupt team dynamics. So you've

2137
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 2: got alumni and donors that continue to pour money into

2138
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 2: these collectives for player payments, and they say, hey, we

2139
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 2: want to return our investment. The hell we think you

2140
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 2: gave you this money for so you can light it

2141
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 2: on fire keep yourself for them. No, not up in here.

2142
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 2: We want return in our investment in the form of

2143
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 2: like winning games and going to the playoffs. And that's

2144
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 2: given collector, these collectives and donors frankly more leverage than

2145
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 2: the athletic directors have from my humble opinion, see because

2146
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:21,639
Speaker 2: by funding these lucrative and IIL deals, and make no mistake,

2147
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:27,720
Speaker 2: they are lucrative boosters donors again, they fail a sense

2148
01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:30,720
Speaker 2: of entitlement, They feel a sense of ownership. They are

2149
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 2: invested in the team's success, and when the team's performance

2150
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 2: does not live up to expectations and not match what

2151
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 2: their investment expectations were, then the donors start to pressure

2152
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 2: athletic directors to make changes, which is leading to the

2153
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 2: termination of the head coach. And we've had nine of

2154
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 2: them already in the first nine weeks of the season unreal.

2155
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 2: This creates a situation coaches who fall short of immediate expectations. Again,

2156
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:02,919
Speaker 2: they're quickly replaced, even though they have these massive, crazy,

2157
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 2: large contract biots. Nick David said it a couple of

2158
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 2: weeks ago. He basically was very blunt. He said, people

2159
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:14,800
Speaker 2: who donate to the nil deals think they have a

2160
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 2: voice in major decisions, acting quote just like a bunch

2161
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 2: of fans. And this sort of you know, oversight of

2162
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:31,879
Speaker 2: influence from boosters to the administration is a tremendous difference

2163
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 2: in departure from the previous model of how an athletic

2164
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 2: department was managed. And despite the high cost of these biots,

2165
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 2: and they're incredible. Remember just what was it last year

2166
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 2: of the year before Jimbo Fisher at Texas A and M.

2167
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 2: They paid him eighty one million to go away. I think, wow,

2168
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 2: look at him now. There ain't no the schools are

2169
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 2: willing to pay these large sums to fire coaches who

2170
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 2: don't produce the results they want or don't produce the

2171
01:54:55,800 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 2: results they want fast enough. And urban Meyer once said

2172
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 2: that he initially believed, or maybe I don't want to

2173
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 2: quote him, but the consensus among those he talked to

2174
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 2: that nil spending would make coaching buyouts too expensive, so

2175
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:18,760
Speaker 2: therefore the coaches were be indemnified. But that's not happening.

2176
01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 2: I just you know, I could give you all the

2177
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 2: numbers again, I'll give you a few. I mean, you

2178
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:27,400
Speaker 2: already know about James Franklin, Billy Nypier, but my gund

2179
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,920
Speaker 2: he got fifteen million to go away to Sean Foster

2180
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 2: got six and a half million to go away. Trent

2181
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 2: Dill forg got two point four million. This is real money.

2182
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 2: Even j Norville, the bottom of the barrel in terms

2183
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 2: of what they paid him to go away, got one

2184
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 2: and a half million to go away. The problem is, anyhow,

2185
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 2: the Nile has created this tremendous landscape of free agency

2186
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 2: where players they're incentivized to transfer schools because they can

2187
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 2: get better financial opportunities, maybe better life opportunities, but definitely

2188
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 2: better financial opportunities. That's what's driving this craziness. All that

2189
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 2: does is create instability for your program, which makes the

2190
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 2: coach job. Coaches job more difficult, because how do you

2191
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 2: develop a roster? How do you keep and develop a roster?

2192
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 2: It's hindered. How do you develop team chemistry? Some can

2193
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 2: do it better than others, I guess, but most can't.

2194
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 2: Coaches are now having to completely and constantly re recruit

2195
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 2: their own players to keep them from entering the portal.

2196
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 2: In some cases, like at Maryland, dozens of players transfer

2197
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 2: out in the single off season, and act forces coaches

2198
01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 2: to rebuild their roster every single year. So you have

2199
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:45,520
Speaker 2: this focus and this these benefactors who say we'll play

2200
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 2: you individual players, and you're going to enjoy tremendous individual

2201
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 2: financial gain, but at what price for starters? In most

2202
01:56:56,160 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 2: cases team cohesion. Now, some players might be more concerned

2203
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 2: with securing a lucrative deal for themselves then whether or

2204
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 2: not their team wins games are their on field performance.

2205
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 2: I know that sounds cynical. So that forces coaches to

2206
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 2: become de facto agents in addition to be in coaches

2207
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:17,839
Speaker 2: and surrogate parents and leaders. They're now agents and financial

2208
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 2: advisors in addition to their traditional coaching duties. And what

2209
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 2: this has also led to, frankly, is that coaches have

2210
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 2: decreased authority. The players have all the leverage in the

2211
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:33,320
Speaker 2: ANIL era, Make no mistake, it's frankly diminished the head

2212
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:36,240
Speaker 2: coaches authority. When you got the option leave for a

2213
01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 2: better deal. Players are no longer as dependent on their

2214
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 2: coaches for advancement, for the opportunity for their future. Potentially,

2215
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:47,839
Speaker 2: this undermines the coaches and their ability to build a culture.

2216
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:51,120
Speaker 2: And that's what's happening. In most of the cases. Coaches

2217
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 2: find themselves with less control than ever over team culture.

2218
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 2: Players have the bargaining power. Now, many of the longtime

2219
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 2: coaches we've seen it, like Nick Saban has said that

2220
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 2: this chaotic nature or the NIL and transfer portal era,

2221
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 2: that's the reason I'm stepping away. Tony Bennett did it

2222
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 2: in basketball, and there are other name coaches have as well.

2223
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to give the laundry lists. But this

2224
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 2: also takes a significant tool on the sport and the

2225
01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 2: profession because as an overriding entity and institution only has

2226
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 2: select few benefit and the only benefit financially. And it's

2227
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 2: a ripple effect. Okay, this instability that's caused by the

2228
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 2: NIL and I know it's here to stay. I'm not complete.

2229
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you the way I see it. Wire

2230
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 2: nine coaches fired and October is not even out. The

2231
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 2: transfer portal, expanded playoffs, conference re alignment, the coaching care ofusel.

2232
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 2: They're human beings. The cycle of pressure, the higher and

2233
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 2: higher expectations, rapid turnover, and when you can't meet the

2234
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:58,919
Speaker 2: inflated expectations of donors who now think they are owners

2235
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:01,840
Speaker 2: and their glory, fight fans with a lot of money,

2236
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:04,720
Speaker 2: which are often tied to the investments they've made. The

2237
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 2: head coach is and always will be the first to

2238
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:12,839
Speaker 2: be held accountable, even if they walk away with millions

2239
01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 2: of dollars. It's still not a pretty picture, but that

2240
01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 2: is the state of college football circa twenty twenty five.

2241
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:24,959
Speaker 2: Coming up, we talk about the NFL, the NBA betting scandal.

2242
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 2: Give it lock, It's a Bernie fraddle Show.

2243
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:30,320
Speaker 1: Don't listening no Fox Sports Radio.

2244
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:32,880
Speaker 2: That stretch you heard the band. The Bernie Frale Show

2245
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 2: keeps you rolling right along. My name is Bernie fraddle

2246
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 2: Wick Comedy Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios here

2247
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:41,840
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. We will take you up to three

2248
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 2: am Pacific, six am Eastern, and as I mentioned at

2249
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 2: the top of the show, I want to take a

2250
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:56,480
Speaker 2: deeper dive into these NBA gambling allegations. Who's involved, how

2251
01:59:56,480 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 2: are they implicated, what are the specifics, what might be next?

2252
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 2: And the potential for additional fallout and even also what

2253
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 2: Tim donaghy, what his bull prediction is. But before we

2254
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:11,520
Speaker 2: get to that, we've got some interesting sound. Let's give

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Speaker 2: it a listen.

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Speaker 29: That's upstanding, that's outstand But I will tell you this,

2257
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:25,040
Speaker 29: it's outstanding. I will tell you this. The names haven't

2258
02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 29: been changed. We know the names, we know some of

2259
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:33,200
Speaker 29: the names, and uh, let's let's start there. Because when

2260
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:37,160
Speaker 29: the indictments were file Thursday in federal court regarding these

2261
02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 29: allegations of illegal gambling by many current and former NBA players,

2262
02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:44,320
Speaker 29: it's not being touted as the potential will be one

2263
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:48,360
Speaker 29: of the biggest scandals in American sports because of its complexity,

2264
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:49,400
Speaker 29: it's moving parts.

2265
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:51,840
Speaker 2: Do I know how the hell do I know? No

2266
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,960
Speaker 2: one knows nothing. I know, I don't know nothing. I

2267
02:00:54,960 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 2: will say this, though, this does seem very much more

2268
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:04,360
Speaker 2: out of the ordinary. Right now, we're hearing the name

2269
02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:07,960
Speaker 2: Terry Rozier. He's a current guard for the Miami Heat,

2270
02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:12,120
Speaker 2: the current Trailblazers coach Chauncey Billups, and then a former

2271
02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:17,200
Speaker 2: NBA player and coach Damon Jones. By the way, Rosier

2272
02:01:17,200 --> 02:01:20,000
Speaker 2: did not play in Miami season Open on Orlando on Wednesday,

2273
02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:23,920
Speaker 2: and Billips coached the Blazers that night, but both have

2274
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:28,200
Speaker 2: been placed on leave by the NBA. How are they implicated, Well,

2275
02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:32,480
Speaker 2: there's two separate indictments here. One of them involved providing

2276
02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:39,360
Speaker 2: inside information about NBA games to gamblers. The other concerns

2277
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:45,560
Speaker 2: underground poker games allegedly rigged by crime family associates. Again,

2278
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:48,120
Speaker 2: these are allegations. We are not going to play moot

2279
02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:53,240
Speaker 2: court here. On the Bernie Frauder Show, Rosier was indicted

2280
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:56,800
Speaker 2: on the inside information case, Chauncey Billups was indicted on

2281
02:01:56,800 --> 02:01:59,680
Speaker 2: the poker case, and Damon Jones was arrested in connection

2282
02:01:59,800 --> 02:02:04,560
Speaker 2: with both cases. Now, as you expect them to do,

2283
02:02:04,600 --> 02:02:07,640
Speaker 2: both Billups and Rosier, through their attorneys, denied any wrong

2284
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:11,640
Speaker 2: during doing other than that, not a lot of comments

2285
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:15,920
Speaker 2: or the specifics. These are the specifics now. The allegations

2286
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 2: against Rosier are very similar to those of Raptors player

2287
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:24,400
Speaker 2: johntay Porter, which we talked about months ago last year

2288
02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 2: on Might Show and essentially earned John tay Porter a

2289
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:32,600
Speaker 2: lifetime bad from the NBA. Rosier is accused of letting

2290
02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:34,800
Speaker 2: a close friend know that he planned to leave a

2291
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:38,920
Speaker 2: game back on March twenty three March twenty third, twenty

2292
02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:43,400
Speaker 2: twenty three with a supposed injury. So the friends sold

2293
02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:46,400
Speaker 2: the information to other gamblers, who, along with other co conspirators,

2294
02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:50,320
Speaker 2: then placed allegedly more than two hundred thousand dollars in

2295
02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:54,400
Speaker 2: bets on the under and Rosier statistics for the game

2296
02:02:55,000 --> 02:03:01,360
Speaker 2: for purposes of this conversation, like, for instance, okay ah,

2297
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:05,600
Speaker 2: would he score under ten points? Rosier was playing for

2298
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 2: the Hornets at the time, and the game in question

2299
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:11,120
Speaker 2: was against the Pelicans. Now Jones is, and he left

2300
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:15,680
Speaker 2: the game early with a supposed injury. Jones is also

2301
02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:19,960
Speaker 2: accused of passing along inside information The gambler's damon Jones.

2302
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:23,720
Speaker 2: His indictment alleges that he sold or attempted to sell

2303
02:03:23,960 --> 02:03:27,800
Speaker 2: non public information regarding the injury status of a Laker player.

2304
02:03:28,200 --> 02:03:31,200
Speaker 2: They didn't name the player at the time. One such

2305
02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:35,600
Speaker 2: player was evidently it's been saying it was Lebron James now.

2306
02:03:35,600 --> 02:03:40,000
Speaker 2: According to the indictment, Jones texted an unnamed co conspirator

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02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:42,840
Speaker 2: before a Lakers Bucks game on February ninth of that

2308
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:45,800
Speaker 2: same year, telling the person that this unnamed player would

2309
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 2: not play, urging into place a Big Bat at Milwaukee

2310
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:53,120
Speaker 2: to night before the information gets out, this story gets convoluted.

2311
02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:56,320
Speaker 2: This is where they say that Lebron James matches the

2312
02:03:56,360 --> 02:03:59,240
Speaker 2: description of the unnamed player identified as Player three and

2313
02:03:59,280 --> 02:04:01,680
Speaker 2: the indictment he was rue loud for the game due

2314
02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:06,200
Speaker 2: to ankle soortess. And let's make this perfectly clear, Lebron

2315
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:09,440
Speaker 2: James is not accused of any wrongdoing. It's just hurt.

2316
02:04:09,600 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 2: Someone said he's hurt. He's not gonna play now. Billips

2317
02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:15,960
Speaker 2: and Jones were also indicted in a separate case involving

2318
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:18,920
Speaker 2: an illegal poker ring that the FED say has ties

2319
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:22,080
Speaker 2: to for the five major New York mafia families. According

2320
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:26,480
Speaker 2: to the indictment, the poker games were being fixed through

2321
02:04:26,480 --> 02:04:31,960
Speaker 2: the use of rigged shuffling machines, card analyzer technology that

2322
02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:34,760
Speaker 2: loaded onto decoy cell phones. And oh, by the way,

2323
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:37,960
Speaker 2: guys would wear these special contact legends that could read

2324
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:42,640
Speaker 2: three marked cards and other means. Now, Billips and Jones

2325
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 2: are accused of playing in the poker game that we're

2326
02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:48,000
Speaker 2: backed by these groups, participating in what the FEDS call

2327
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:53,880
Speaker 2: quote cheating teams. They would defraud unsuspecting marks who thought

2328
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:59,400
Speaker 2: the games around the level. Now this indictment also alleges

2329
02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:04,240
Speaker 2: that the defense that's used professional athletes to attract victims

2330
02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:07,160
Speaker 2: of the scams to play in the rig games. Billips

2331
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:10,520
Speaker 2: and Jones quote received a portion of the criminal proceeds

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02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 2: in exchange for their participation in the scheme. According to

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Speaker 2: the indictment, so where do we go from here? You know, home, dinner,

2334
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:20,880
Speaker 2: maybe a show, No, maybe not see because this is

2335
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:24,200
Speaker 2: what the narrative has been. And this I don't know

2336
02:05:24,280 --> 02:05:27,200
Speaker 2: because you don't know what you don't know, and we

2337
02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:29,280
Speaker 2: all act like we know and nobody knows nothing. But

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02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 2: this is what's being said that Thursday's bomb show could

2339
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:36,440
Speaker 2: be just the beginning. Chauncey Billups is the only named

2340
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:40,880
Speaker 2: in the poker indictment, but he also appears to have

2341
02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:44,240
Speaker 2: been involved in the inside information scheme as well, because

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02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:47,760
Speaker 2: that indictment refers to quote an unnamed co conspirator eight,

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02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:50,840
Speaker 2: who is a resident of Oregon, where Billups coaches the

2344
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 2: Blazers and was an NBA player from approximately nineteen ninety

2345
02:05:54,720 --> 02:05:58,080
Speaker 2: seven through twenty fourteen and an NBA coaches twenty twenty one.

2346
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:04,320
Speaker 2: They're implying that co conspirators are eight. Co Conspirator eight

2347
02:06:04,440 --> 02:06:08,400
Speaker 2: is accused of providing information about the Blazers lineup that

2348
02:06:08,720 --> 02:06:10,720
Speaker 2: for a March twenty fourth game in twenty twenty three

2349
02:06:11,160 --> 02:06:15,680
Speaker 2: against the Bulls to a defendant named Eric Ernest, which

2350
02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:19,400
Speaker 2: Ernest and passed on the gamblers who made bets against

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02:06:19,400 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 2: the Blazers. By the way, the Blazers lost by twenty

2352
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:25,320
Speaker 2: eight points. That name that night, Ernest is also named

2353
02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:27,920
Speaker 2: in the poker indictment. If you can follow all this,

2354
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:30,880
Speaker 2: God bless you. Okay, this isn't easy, but this is

2355
02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:35,840
Speaker 2: how they this is how it's been reported. Now, the

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02:06:35,880 --> 02:06:39,240
Speaker 2: indictment only mentions that one in instance of the unnamed

2357
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:43,960
Speaker 2: Billups like co conspirator divulging this non public information to betters.

2358
02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:47,000
Speaker 2: The NBA, they are saying, should be very concerned about

2359
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:50,760
Speaker 2: the extent when you have an active head coach with

2360
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 2: ties to allege mob affiliated gamblers providing inside information with

2361
02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:59,920
Speaker 2: those gamblers, the NBA should be very concerned. In a statement,

2362
02:07:00,080 --> 02:07:03,680
Speaker 2: Billups attorney said, quote, anyone who knows Chauncey Billups knows

2363
02:07:03,720 --> 02:07:06,000
Speaker 2: he is a man of integrity. Men of integrity do

2364
02:07:06,080 --> 02:07:09,360
Speaker 2: not cheat defraud others to believe that Chauncey Billups did

2365
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:11,760
Speaker 2: what the federal government is accusing him of is to

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02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:14,560
Speaker 2: believe he would risk his Hall of Fame, legacy, his reputation,

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02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:18,360
Speaker 2: and his freedom. He would not jeopardize those things for anything,

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02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:21,640
Speaker 2: let alone a card game. Furthermore, Chauncey Billups has never

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02:07:21,880 --> 02:07:25,160
Speaker 2: and would never gamble on basketball games, provide insider information,

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02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:27,480
Speaker 2: or sacrifice the trust of his team in the league,

2371
02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:29,760
Speaker 2: as it would tarnish the game he has devoted his

2372
02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:32,680
Speaker 2: entire life to. Chauncey Billups has never backed down. He

2373
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:34,560
Speaker 2: does not planning to do so. Now will he fight

2374
02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:37,560
Speaker 2: these aggaleegations with the same tenacity that mark his twenty

2375
02:07:37,560 --> 02:07:40,080
Speaker 2: eight year career. We look forward to that day in

2376
02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:43,440
Speaker 2: court end quote a pretty strong statement by his lawyer.

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02:07:44,640 --> 02:07:47,800
Speaker 2: So then the court cases will begin, and it's, like

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02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 2: Mark Mondina said, it's going to take a long time

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02:07:49,600 --> 02:07:53,879
Speaker 2: to play out now. Jamon Jones' involvement is also troubling.

2380
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:58,880
Speaker 2: He played eleven seasons in the NBA for ten different teams. Yes,

2381
02:07:58,920 --> 02:08:02,160
Speaker 2: he was well traveled, but also well liked and popular.

2382
02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:06,640
Speaker 2: Like Chauncey Billuffs, became friends with many top players. Quote,

2383
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:10,200
Speaker 2: and this quote can be attributed to a very respected writer.

2384
02:08:10,440 --> 02:08:13,720
Speaker 2: I believe he's with Sports Illustrated Chris Mannex. He wrote, quote,

2385
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:18,040
Speaker 2: some within the league walls see the roseerin billups situations

2386
02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:21,400
Speaker 2: as containable even during the indictments, as a deterrent for

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02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:25,120
Speaker 2: years to come. Jones' involvement, though, could cause the fallout

2388
02:08:25,160 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 2: to linger and spread. Quote. One high ranking team executive

2389
02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:35,200
Speaker 2: told Mannix that Jones is the NBA's biggest liability right now.

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02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:41,320
Speaker 2: End quote. Here's where it gets crazier. Thursday's indictments only

2391
02:08:41,440 --> 02:08:45,760
Speaker 2: named NBA players, but it's now being reported and out there,

2392
02:08:45,880 --> 02:08:50,240
Speaker 2: and the ether that they're telling us to all prepare,

2393
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:53,680
Speaker 2: you know, you prepare for impact. Fans should be prepared

2394
02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:59,760
Speaker 2: for additional revelations about gambling improprieties on the college level.

2395
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:02,520
Speaker 2: One of the men in both indictments, by the name

2396
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:05,800
Speaker 2: of Shane Hennon, has previously been tied to suspicious bets

2397
02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:09,960
Speaker 2: on college games, which leads to Tim Donnihey and his

2398
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:17,720
Speaker 2: bold prediction. Now you may remember Tim Donahey. He's a referee, retired,

2399
02:09:17,840 --> 02:09:21,960
Speaker 2: long gone. He's always referred to quote as the disgraced

2400
02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:26,040
Speaker 2: former NBA referee. And you know why, and by the way,

2401
02:09:26,080 --> 02:09:29,160
Speaker 2: not for nothing. I've said his probably too many times

2402
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:31,720
Speaker 2: on the Air November nineteen, two thousand and four, was

2403
02:09:31,720 --> 02:09:33,800
Speaker 2: at the mouse at the Palace of the Auburn Hills.

2404
02:09:34,160 --> 02:09:36,520
Speaker 2: Who was one of the referees on the floor that day, Yes,

2405
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:40,440
Speaker 2: it was Tim Donaghey. That's just a side note. I digress.

2406
02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:43,840
Speaker 2: Donahey checked in this week. He said he believes the

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02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:48,320
Speaker 2: ongoing investigations involving Chauncey Billips and Terry Rozier are quote

2408
02:09:48,360 --> 02:09:53,280
Speaker 2: just a precursor to an even bigger scandal. Again, I

2409
02:09:53,320 --> 02:09:55,240
Speaker 2: don't know nothing. I'm not going to act like I'm

2410
02:09:55,280 --> 02:09:59,320
Speaker 2: smart about this. How would I possibly know? The FBI

2411
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:04,160
Speaker 2: arrested Bill Rosier and again Damon Jones, all on Thursday

2412
02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:08,400
Speaker 2: various allegations linked to gambling. We've already said this, Bill

2413
02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:11,680
Speaker 2: have stepped down from his role as the Blazer's head coach,

2414
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:14,440
Speaker 2: who's tied to a rig poker game operation and connection

2415
02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:18,640
Speaker 2: with organized crime families. Rosier accused of faking an injury

2416
02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 2: to ensure certain prop bets on his performance would cash

2417
02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:27,600
Speaker 2: in Jones. Damon Jones allegedly sent inside information on an

2418
02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:31,960
Speaker 2: injury status of a player, telling his people to bet

2419
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 2: against the Las Los Angeles Lakers because this player allegedly

2420
02:10:35,880 --> 02:10:39,800
Speaker 2: Lebron James was going to be hurt that night or

2421
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:44,080
Speaker 2: was hurt that night. Again, don't get this twisted in

2422
02:10:44,080 --> 02:10:47,400
Speaker 2: any way. Lebron James is not being accused of anything.

2423
02:10:48,600 --> 02:10:51,520
Speaker 2: Donahey also shared quote here we go again. He was

2424
02:10:51,600 --> 02:10:55,400
Speaker 2: not surprised about everything going on. He claimed the ongoing

2425
02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:59,600
Speaker 2: fiasco is just the beginning with an even bigger scandal waiting.

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02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:03,800
Speaker 2: Here's a prediction, He's bull prediction waiting to be unearthed

2427
02:11:03,880 --> 02:11:08,680
Speaker 2: at the college level. Quote, I'm definitely not surprised. Well,

2428
02:11:08,720 --> 02:11:10,800
Speaker 2: what's going on, Donna? He said, I think this is

2429
02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:14,640
Speaker 2: just a tip of the iceberg. If I if I

2430
02:11:14,680 --> 02:11:16,840
Speaker 2: had a nickel for every time I heard tip of

2431
02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:21,440
Speaker 2: the iceberg since Thursday, Jeff Beezels would be bowing my

2432
02:11:21,560 --> 02:11:24,600
Speaker 2: lawn right. Donnie went on to say, quote, I think

2433
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:26,640
Speaker 2: you're going to see a lot more of a bigger

2434
02:11:26,640 --> 02:11:29,120
Speaker 2: scandal coming out of the college level because you have

2435
02:11:29,240 --> 02:11:33,080
Speaker 2: these young athletes that aren't going to make it to

2436
02:11:33,120 --> 02:11:36,560
Speaker 2: the next level. Somebody is going to offer them money

2437
02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:39,520
Speaker 2: to maybe fix the game and only win by twelve

2438
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:43,360
Speaker 2: rather than fifteen. And Michael Frenzies talked about this the

2439
02:11:43,400 --> 02:11:45,120
Speaker 2: other night. He says, Hey, this has been going on,

2440
02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:49,040
Speaker 2: you know, forty fifty years or longer. We tell players,

2441
02:11:49,120 --> 02:11:51,680
Speaker 2: we're not telling you to lose. You don't have to lose.

2442
02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:56,200
Speaker 2: Just when by less than what the points bread is,

2443
02:11:56,480 --> 02:12:00,360
Speaker 2: everybody goes unhappy. Right, and Donnie, he would not have

2444
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:02,200
Speaker 2: to say he thinks the players will take that money

2445
02:12:02,240 --> 02:12:04,640
Speaker 2: because they need a way to support their family. Again,

2446
02:12:04,720 --> 02:12:06,360
Speaker 2: here we are. I think it's just a tip of

2447
02:12:06,360 --> 02:12:10,400
Speaker 2: the iceberg. The conversations if you know, the group, think

2448
02:12:10,480 --> 02:12:14,040
Speaker 2: echo chamber. We don't know what's what and what's next.

2449
02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:16,720
Speaker 2: And I know it's minds staying. There've been up to

2450
02:12:16,720 --> 02:12:19,440
Speaker 2: thirty four people arrested. Now we'll see if more big

2451
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:20,160
Speaker 2: names come out.

2452
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:21,440
Speaker 6: Now.

2453
02:12:21,520 --> 02:12:25,440
Speaker 2: Look, Donahey has long maintained that is only illegal activity.

2454
02:12:25,520 --> 02:12:29,879
Speaker 2: During his NBA refereeing days, had connections to crime families.

2455
02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:35,160
Speaker 2: But those claims have actually been debunked. And you know,

2456
02:12:36,280 --> 02:12:39,600
Speaker 2: and I don't know either about that. So there are

2457
02:12:39,640 --> 02:12:42,720
Speaker 2: going to be some people who say, how the hell

2458
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:46,200
Speaker 2: can we take Tim Tim Donahey seriously? Due to the

2459
02:12:46,280 --> 02:12:49,800
Speaker 2: checkered past he has, It's not hard to imagine, right,

2460
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:58,200
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. If the FBI does thorough investigations,

2461
02:12:58,240 --> 02:13:00,480
Speaker 2: which clearly they have been over the last goo years.

2462
02:13:01,280 --> 02:13:03,400
Speaker 2: They might very well follow his lead into looking in

2463
02:13:03,480 --> 02:13:06,360
Speaker 2: the college sports if they aren't already. We don't know,

2464
02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:11,240
Speaker 2: and that's why this is crazy coming up. There have

2465
02:13:11,320 --> 02:13:21,480
Speaker 2: been twenty seven instances of gambling improprieties, hullabalooes, consternations justince

2466
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:25,040
Speaker 2: May of twenty eighteen when PASSPA was passed. And I'll

2467
02:13:25,040 --> 02:13:28,880
Speaker 2: tell you what that means, what passval was, and I'll

2468
02:13:28,880 --> 02:13:30,440
Speaker 2: give you a taste of what some of those You

2469
02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:33,800
Speaker 2: think this is all new, No, No, within a year,

2470
02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 2: they were gambling hullabalooes that took place right after the league,

2471
02:13:39,240 --> 02:13:42,520
Speaker 2: you know, the advent of legalized gambling, of which thirty

2472
02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:45,040
Speaker 2: eight states have now taken advantage of. Hi, Bernie Frattle,

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02:14:45,920 --> 02:14:48,960
Speaker 2: get off the air. By the way, I do want

2492
02:14:49,000 --> 02:14:56,800
Speaker 2: to get to some of these scandals. You remember. In

2493
02:14:56,840 --> 02:15:00,000
Speaker 2: May of twenty nineteen, the Supreme Court issued a decision

2494
02:15:00,760 --> 02:15:04,320
Speaker 2: which allowed states to individually regulate sports petting. It was

2495
02:15:04,360 --> 02:15:10,839
Speaker 2: called PASPA, the Professional Amateur Sports Protection Act of twenty nineteen.

2496
02:15:11,560 --> 02:15:14,960
Speaker 2: It overturned a law that was signed into Congress in

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02:15:15,040 --> 02:15:17,720
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two by President George Bush at the time

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02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:23,440
Speaker 2: that made gambling you know, illegal unless you know you

2499
02:15:23,480 --> 02:15:27,800
Speaker 2: were in Nevada or Delaware from a federal standpoint, Well

2500
02:15:28,040 --> 02:15:33,360
Speaker 2: overturned that and basically there are thirty eight states now

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02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:36,320
Speaker 2: they have some form of sports gambling where it's legal,

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02:15:36,800 --> 02:15:39,880
Speaker 2: and it's regulated as well as Washington, d C. And

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02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:44,840
Speaker 2: Puerto Rico. All right, But again Tuesday, the NBA became

2504
02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:49,040
Speaker 2: the latest league to dominate the sports conversation due to

2505
02:15:49,040 --> 02:15:53,560
Speaker 2: a gambling scandal. And again you already know Portland, Chauncey

2506
02:15:53,640 --> 02:15:56,040
Speaker 2: Billips and Terry Rose here they're part of the sweeping

2507
02:15:56,040 --> 02:16:00,280
Speaker 2: and federal investigation. But in light of this recent news,

2508
02:16:01,080 --> 02:16:03,000
Speaker 2: look you think this is new. There have been twenty

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02:16:03,160 --> 02:16:06,160
Speaker 2: seven now, none rise to the level of what's being

2510
02:16:06,160 --> 02:16:09,160
Speaker 2: reported now. But you can go all the way back

2511
02:16:09,200 --> 02:16:12,680
Speaker 2: to November of twenty nineteen, the ink was barely dry.

2512
02:16:13,240 --> 02:16:17,440
Speaker 2: The NFL suspended a cornerback named Josh Shaw the Arizona

2513
02:16:17,560 --> 02:16:21,720
Speaker 2: Cardinals for betting on NFL games. On multiple occasions, he

2514
02:16:21,760 --> 02:16:25,080
Speaker 2: was betting on NFL games. It marked the first instance

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02:16:25,720 --> 02:16:28,440
Speaker 2: of the league suspending an active player for betting on

2516
02:16:28,520 --> 02:16:32,720
Speaker 2: games following the Supreme Courts twenty eighteen decision. But it

2517
02:16:32,800 --> 02:16:40,959
Speaker 2: wasn't just NFL. A year later, MLS suspended Felipe A Hernandez.

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02:16:41,680 --> 02:16:46,320
Speaker 2: He was a midfielder for Sporting KC, a soccer team.

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02:16:46,560 --> 02:16:50,560
Speaker 2: The investigation found he'd been placing online bets on MLS

2520
02:16:50,640 --> 02:16:55,280
Speaker 2: games but even though they didn't involve his own team,

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02:16:55,480 --> 02:16:57,960
Speaker 2: he was totally he was worried about his safety and

2522
02:16:58,080 --> 02:17:00,600
Speaker 2: he had gambling debts and it's a mess. But guess

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02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:03,680
Speaker 2: what you remember this one March of twenty twenty two,

2524
02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:08,880
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley was also suspended the wide receiver. The then

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02:17:09,040 --> 02:17:12,720
Speaker 2: wide receiver, Calvin Ridley, he was suspended for the entire

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02:17:13,040 --> 02:17:16,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two season for betting on NFL games, including

2527
02:17:16,240 --> 02:17:20,280
Speaker 2: Falcons games. Now, really he's not plays for the Tennessee Titans. Now.

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02:17:20,320 --> 02:17:23,520
Speaker 2: He was reinstated in March and twenty twenty three, and

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02:17:23,600 --> 02:17:25,480
Speaker 2: he wrote he made quote the worst mistake of his

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02:17:25,520 --> 02:17:29,520
Speaker 2: life by gambling on football. A little later in the show,

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02:17:30,280 --> 02:17:32,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to get to some of these other gambling,

2532
02:17:33,680 --> 02:17:36,440
Speaker 2: you know, piccadillos that players have been involved in over

2533
02:17:36,480 --> 02:17:39,320
Speaker 2: the years. But we have a we have a major

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02:17:39,640 --> 02:17:42,000
Speaker 2: news story coming out of Texas Tech, and I meant

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02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:45,200
Speaker 2: to get to this earlier, ever so quickly. It's kind

2536
02:17:45,200 --> 02:17:50,040
Speaker 2: of filler stuff. Texas Tech has officially banned their tradition

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02:17:50,200 --> 02:17:54,680
Speaker 2: of throwing tortillas at home football games now due to

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02:17:54,680 --> 02:17:58,240
Speaker 2: Big twelve penalties. The ad apparently he's got the authority

2539
02:17:58,280 --> 02:18:01,080
Speaker 2: to make this decision. Guy by the name of Kirby Hokott.

2540
02:18:01,280 --> 02:18:04,039
Speaker 2: He says he wants to avoid fines and ensure the

2541
02:18:04,040 --> 02:18:07,600
Speaker 2: team is not penalized for fan actions. It's interesting is

2542
02:18:07,640 --> 02:18:12,240
Speaker 2: this has been a tradition at Texas Tech for I

2543
02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:16,520
Speaker 2: believe thirty five years or if not longer. Maybe someone

2544
02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:19,840
Speaker 2: can correct me. I don't know the reason for the band. Well,

2545
02:18:20,400 --> 02:18:24,240
Speaker 2: the Big Ten Conference, will they stiffened penalties for objects

2546
02:18:24,280 --> 02:18:26,360
Speaker 2: being thrown on the field in Texas Tech where they

2547
02:18:26,360 --> 02:18:29,640
Speaker 2: want to avoid those fines. It was officially announced just

2548
02:18:29,720 --> 02:18:33,760
Speaker 2: what four or five days ago, and again it was

2549
02:18:33,760 --> 02:18:36,360
Speaker 2: done during opening kickoffs. It's been done for about thirty

2550
02:18:36,360 --> 02:18:42,880
Speaker 2: five years. And Patrick Mahomes has spoken on He said

2551
02:18:42,879 --> 02:18:46,800
Speaker 2: he've used the band negatively because it stems from the

2552
02:18:46,840 --> 02:18:51,600
Speaker 2: desirous care opponents, which I don't think is entirely true. Okay,

2553
02:18:52,360 --> 02:18:54,480
Speaker 2: now I'm going to get to that in a minute.

2554
02:18:56,520 --> 02:19:00,360
Speaker 2: The coach at Texas Tech, Joey Maguire, he says he's

2555
02:19:00,480 --> 02:19:03,640
Speaker 2: encouraging fans to support their team in other ways, you know,

2556
02:19:03,720 --> 02:19:09,320
Speaker 2: like waving towels to maintain the high energy atmosphere. Here's

2557
02:19:09,600 --> 02:19:12,640
Speaker 2: here's what I Here's what I find funny. How the

2558
02:19:12,720 --> 02:19:15,200
Speaker 2: hell did this ever happen in the first place? What

2559
02:19:15,400 --> 02:19:19,480
Speaker 2: started this damn tradition? Well, it turns out that it began.

2560
02:19:20,040 --> 02:19:24,680
Speaker 2: The main theory is they used to throw soda lids,

2561
02:19:25,720 --> 02:19:28,160
Speaker 2: and they just decided to switch to tortillas in nineteen

2562
02:19:28,200 --> 02:19:30,720
Speaker 2: eighty nine when they could no longer get soda lids

2563
02:19:30,720 --> 02:19:34,520
Speaker 2: because soda lids weren't provided when you bought drinks. But

2564
02:19:34,600 --> 02:19:36,959
Speaker 2: a better theory is that there was a nineteen ninety

2565
02:19:36,959 --> 02:19:40,199
Speaker 2: two broadcaster who I don't know the name, he appears

2566
02:19:40,240 --> 02:19:44,120
Speaker 2: to be unnamed, joke that if you went to Lubbock, Texas,

2567
02:19:44,680 --> 02:19:48,040
Speaker 2: the only thing they had there was football and tortillas,

2568
02:19:49,200 --> 02:19:53,760
Speaker 2: and that is why apparently they began throwing tortillas at

2569
02:19:54,120 --> 02:20:01,920
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. So can you throw tortillas at Texas Tech

2570
02:20:01,959 --> 02:20:06,560
Speaker 2: games anymore? You better not, and I did not. I

2571
02:20:06,600 --> 02:20:13,280
Speaker 2: can't lie. Texas Tech played Oklahoma State on Saturday. You

2572
02:20:13,320 --> 02:20:15,800
Speaker 2: could call it a Big twelve showdown. Not so much anymore.

2573
02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:19,680
Speaker 2: I don't somebody's kidnapped the Oklahoma State football program. It

2574
02:20:19,760 --> 02:20:22,240
Speaker 2: is cool to produce Barry Sanders and Terry Miller, and

2575
02:20:22,480 --> 02:20:27,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know think how it happened but

2576
02:20:27,920 --> 02:20:32,199
Speaker 2: Texas Tech had a home game against Oklahoma State Saturday,

2577
02:20:32,840 --> 02:20:35,160
Speaker 2: and I mean even wrote an article about it. Well,

2578
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:36,800
Speaker 2: today's home game is going to be just a little

2579
02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:41,840
Speaker 2: different because of tortilla Gate. Tortilla Gate the first time

2580
02:20:42,640 --> 02:20:46,160
Speaker 2: Texas Tech will be at home since their tortilla throwing

2581
02:20:46,160 --> 02:20:49,040
Speaker 2: tradition was barred and they are no longer encouraged. But

2582
02:20:49,120 --> 02:20:52,560
Speaker 2: it's become a large controversy. Okay, no, you could no

2583
02:20:52,640 --> 02:20:58,040
Speaker 2: longer throw football tortillas at Texas Tech home games at

2584
02:20:58,080 --> 02:21:00,400
Speaker 2: the at the Jones, A and T Stadium. Can do it,

2585
02:21:00,560 --> 02:21:02,520
Speaker 2: don't do it? Are you going to be in trouble?

2586
02:21:02,520 --> 02:21:04,560
Speaker 2: There was a big announcement from the athletic director this

2587
02:21:04,600 --> 02:21:08,720
Speaker 2: week and as they go forward the ad, he fell

2588
02:21:08,760 --> 02:21:11,360
Speaker 2: on the sword as it were. In a statement, he

2589
02:21:11,400 --> 02:21:14,240
Speaker 2: said Hooka took the blame for the situation escalade that

2590
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:17,240
Speaker 2: would it became in recent weeks, saying rules can change,

2591
02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:20,240
Speaker 2: but our tradition will not. Blah blah blah. Okay enough

2592
02:21:20,240 --> 02:21:22,280
Speaker 2: for that, they're just not a whole hell of a lot,

2593
02:21:22,320 --> 02:21:23,840
Speaker 2: but the thirty five year tradition. So if you go

2594
02:21:23,920 --> 02:21:29,120
Speaker 2: to a Texas That game, please don't throw tortillas. I

2595
02:21:29,160 --> 02:21:31,200
Speaker 2: don't know if there's any such rules for the other

2596
02:21:31,320 --> 02:21:35,360
Speaker 2: football games spelled futbol, but we cover that every week

2597
02:21:35,360 --> 02:21:38,039
Speaker 2: on the Bernie Frattle Show. We call it soccer, they

2598
02:21:38,040 --> 02:21:41,879
Speaker 2: call it football anyway you slice it. It's time Chris

2599
02:21:41,879 --> 02:21:43,320
Speaker 2: Purfetts World of Soccer.

2600
02:21:44,680 --> 02:22:00,760
Speaker 3: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum. It's

2601
02:22:00,800 --> 02:22:04,000
Speaker 3: all here in this report from the World of Soccer

2602
02:22:04,360 --> 02:22:05,480
Speaker 3: MLS Cup Playoffs.

2603
02:22:05,480 --> 02:22:07,400
Speaker 30: We'll talk about that in a second, but first we'd

2604
02:22:07,440 --> 02:22:11,160
Speaker 30: be remiss to start the World with Soccer without mentioning

2605
02:22:11,560 --> 02:22:15,080
Speaker 30: the El Classico that we're finally getting for the twenty

2606
02:22:15,120 --> 02:22:18,720
Speaker 30: twenty five twenty twenty six season. In La Liga eleven

2607
02:22:18,840 --> 02:22:24,760
Speaker 30: fifteen am Eastern time, Real Madrid hosting Barcelona, and this

2608
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:27,560
Speaker 30: is going to be a real interesting one. If you've

2609
02:22:27,560 --> 02:22:31,080
Speaker 30: been not paying attention to the Laaliga table, Real Madrid

2610
02:22:31,400 --> 02:22:34,840
Speaker 30: Barcelona have each played nine matches. Real Madrid is eight

2611
02:22:34,840 --> 02:22:38,640
Speaker 30: to zero to one, Barcelona is seven one and one.

2612
02:22:38,959 --> 02:22:40,680
Speaker 30: If you haven't done the math at home, that is

2613
02:22:40,680 --> 02:22:44,320
Speaker 30: a separation by two points. These are two really good

2614
02:22:44,320 --> 02:22:47,080
Speaker 30: clubs this year, and they'll be chasing each other the

2615
02:22:47,240 --> 02:22:50,439
Speaker 30: entire way down the stretch because both have a phenomenal stars.

2616
02:22:50,800 --> 02:22:53,040
Speaker 30: Real Madrid is killing Nimbape. We talked about him with

2617
02:22:53,080 --> 02:22:55,640
Speaker 30: a little bit of a slump last year, but nine

2618
02:22:55,760 --> 02:23:01,080
Speaker 30: starts in Laaliga, ten goals. Meanwhile, for Barcelona it is

2619
02:23:01,120 --> 02:23:06,080
Speaker 30: the Spanish kid, someone that just turned eighteen this year

2620
02:23:06,400 --> 02:23:09,160
Speaker 30: and who we have been talking about for at least

2621
02:23:09,240 --> 02:23:15,880
Speaker 30: two years now. Lamin Yamal already a tremendous star in

2622
02:23:16,000 --> 02:23:20,680
Speaker 30: his own right. Two goals in four starts across La

2623
02:23:20,760 --> 02:23:24,840
Speaker 30: Liga this year and already stirring the pot ahead of

2624
02:23:25,000 --> 02:23:29,480
Speaker 30: the biggest rivalry I would say in the world, claiming

2625
02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:33,840
Speaker 30: that the rivals Real Madrid, all they do is rob.

2626
02:23:34,080 --> 02:23:36,200
Speaker 30: They complain they do things rob of course, in this

2627
02:23:36,320 --> 02:23:39,720
Speaker 30: case not meaning actual rob, but they mean talking, you know,

2628
02:23:40,120 --> 02:23:43,920
Speaker 30: talking to refs, trying to influence the referees a decision

2629
02:23:44,040 --> 02:23:46,840
Speaker 30: on the pitch. Of course, Jamal has always been kind

2630
02:23:46,879 --> 02:23:50,440
Speaker 30: of the proponent for Barcelona against Real Madrid, and that

2631
02:23:50,920 --> 02:23:54,840
Speaker 30: probably tracks and makes him very, very a very popular

2632
02:23:54,959 --> 02:23:58,080
Speaker 30: man with the Barcelona faithful. Last year he said that

2633
02:23:58,240 --> 02:24:01,840
Speaker 30: Madrid cannot handle Barca and look, this is what you

2634
02:24:01,959 --> 02:24:04,960
Speaker 30: got to do for Ol Classico. Now here comes the problem.

2635
02:24:05,040 --> 02:24:07,120
Speaker 30: Always to back it up on the pitch should be

2636
02:24:07,160 --> 02:24:11,600
Speaker 30: a fantastic game. Now onto the MLS Cup playoffs. By

2637
02:24:11,680 --> 02:24:15,640
Speaker 30: this time the wild cards have been completed. The Chicago

2638
02:24:15,760 --> 02:24:20,480
Speaker 30: Fire and Portland Timbers are on a really big match

2639
02:24:20,720 --> 02:24:26,080
Speaker 30: on Sunday at five point thirty pm Eastern between Philadelphia

2640
02:24:26,240 --> 02:24:29,600
Speaker 30: Union and the Chicago Fire, a one in eight matchup.

2641
02:24:29,640 --> 02:24:33,000
Speaker 30: I understand that might seem weird as a place to start,

2642
02:24:33,600 --> 02:24:36,199
Speaker 30: but Union is the strongest club.

2643
02:24:36,640 --> 02:24:37,840
Speaker 2: In the nation right now.

2644
02:24:38,800 --> 02:24:43,600
Speaker 30: They have been phenomenal across the across the scope to

2645
02:24:43,879 --> 02:24:47,879
Speaker 30: defender of the Year candidates with Jacob Blestness and Ky Wagner.

2646
02:24:47,959 --> 02:24:51,000
Speaker 30: I hope I'm not putching those names too badly. Meanwhile,

2647
02:24:51,040 --> 02:24:54,279
Speaker 30: on the other hand, the Chicago Fire is being managed

2648
02:24:54,360 --> 02:24:58,800
Speaker 30: by our old friend Greg ber Halter. Yes, Greg, that's

2649
02:24:58,920 --> 02:25:03,080
Speaker 30: gregber Halter. However, he's gotten the Fire into the playoffs.

2650
02:25:03,879 --> 02:25:07,960
Speaker 30: Brian Gutierrez scored the team's first playoff goal since twenty twelve.

2651
02:25:08,400 --> 02:25:10,920
Speaker 30: He's got this team playing at a very good level.

2652
02:25:11,600 --> 02:25:15,520
Speaker 30: It should be very fun to watch that. Meanwhile, on

2653
02:25:15,720 --> 02:25:19,959
Speaker 30: the other side of the bracket, Miami has already taken

2654
02:25:20,040 --> 02:25:24,200
Speaker 30: the first game against Nashville. Their next game will be

2655
02:25:24,400 --> 02:25:29,280
Speaker 30: played on November first, Lionel Messi lifted the Golden boot

2656
02:25:29,400 --> 02:25:34,760
Speaker 30: as for MLS has its prolific score, and I think

2657
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:38,560
Speaker 30: all eyes are on inter Miami to see how good

2658
02:25:38,600 --> 02:25:42,280
Speaker 30: they're gonna be, how far can they go. It's been

2659
02:25:42,360 --> 02:25:45,960
Speaker 30: no secret for this entire project that everyone wants to

2660
02:25:46,160 --> 02:25:51,560
Speaker 30: see inter Miami lift an MLS Cup. They lost out

2661
02:25:51,560 --> 02:25:54,720
Speaker 30: in the Supporter Shield already this year for most points

2662
02:25:54,760 --> 02:25:57,520
Speaker 30: in the regular season. Now they have this playoff thing.

2663
02:25:57,879 --> 02:26:03,720
Speaker 30: Leonel Messi scored already against Nashville and look, this is

2664
02:26:03,760 --> 02:26:04,800
Speaker 30: the time of year where.

2665
02:26:04,640 --> 02:26:05,440
Speaker 3: They really need him.

2666
02:26:05,640 --> 02:26:08,760
Speaker 30: It's gonna be getting nippy and cold, and this is

2667
02:26:08,879 --> 02:26:12,520
Speaker 30: the right performance time. But yeah, I mean, if we

2668
02:26:12,680 --> 02:26:15,119
Speaker 30: keep doing this every year, I feel like, but rest

2669
02:26:15,160 --> 02:26:18,440
Speaker 30: a shirt. I'm pretty sure MLS wants Leonel Messi center stage,

2670
02:26:18,680 --> 02:26:20,680
Speaker 30: and I think it would get people to talk more

2671
02:26:20,720 --> 02:26:24,879
Speaker 30: about MLS. If Leonel Messi and the inter Miami could

2672
02:26:25,040 --> 02:26:28,680
Speaker 30: lift the cup finally, we would be remiss to end

2673
02:26:28,720 --> 02:26:31,560
Speaker 30: the world of soccer with probably the weirdest thing going on.

2674
02:26:32,520 --> 02:26:34,320
Speaker 30: I don't know if I have ever talked about the

2675
02:26:34,480 --> 02:26:38,000
Speaker 30: US Open Cup in this segment. If you're not familiar

2676
02:26:38,040 --> 02:26:40,760
Speaker 30: with the US Open Cup, it's a lot like Cups

2677
02:26:40,920 --> 02:26:44,200
Speaker 30: in other countries, especially the FA Cup, but it is

2678
02:26:44,360 --> 02:26:48,080
Speaker 30: so much more open. This has been around since nineteen fourteen.

2679
02:26:48,320 --> 02:26:51,000
Speaker 30: By the way, this is a very old tournament and

2680
02:26:51,400 --> 02:26:55,400
Speaker 30: anyone with a club can enter it. Across US Soccer,

2681
02:26:55,720 --> 02:26:58,080
Speaker 30: so you will see guys in beer leagues taking on

2682
02:26:58,280 --> 02:27:03,519
Speaker 30: professionals sometimes. And we have here a second round qualifying

2683
02:27:03,640 --> 02:27:07,960
Speaker 30: match between Bellevue Athletic of the UPSL, which is best

2684
02:27:08,000 --> 02:27:10,400
Speaker 30: as I can describe that kind of belongs in the

2685
02:27:10,520 --> 02:27:14,959
Speaker 30: second or third tier of the men's outdoor soccer pyramid

2686
02:27:15,560 --> 02:27:20,080
Speaker 30: and a semi professional club from Seattle called a Shark

2687
02:27:20,200 --> 02:27:24,720
Speaker 30: to pus FC. This is a story because apparently there

2688
02:27:24,879 --> 02:27:28,039
Speaker 30: was a protest by the Shark to pus FC manager

2689
02:27:28,600 --> 02:27:32,040
Speaker 30: who learned that one of the referees during the US

2690
02:27:32,120 --> 02:27:36,680
Speaker 30: Open Cup match was a former player for Bellevue, which

2691
02:27:37,080 --> 02:27:43,560
Speaker 30: is not good. So US Soccer stepped in a disciplinary

2692
02:27:43,640 --> 02:27:46,920
Speaker 30: panel ruled on this and says the game has to

2693
02:27:47,000 --> 02:27:50,600
Speaker 30: be replayed. It's in its entirety Belle. You, of course

2694
02:27:50,640 --> 02:27:53,840
Speaker 30: appealed the ruling. We have until Wednesday to see whether

2695
02:27:53,920 --> 02:27:55,760
Speaker 30: or not it will be upheld, and if it is,

2696
02:27:56,720 --> 02:27:58,360
Speaker 30: the replay of the match will have to take place.

2697
02:27:58,400 --> 02:28:01,879
Speaker 30: Before the third round of the competition on November first. Wow,

2698
02:28:02,120 --> 02:28:05,120
Speaker 30: this is a weird one. I'll try to keep my

2699
02:28:05,240 --> 02:28:07,160
Speaker 30: eye on this, but for now, we'll see you next time.

2700
02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:08,480
Speaker 30: Bernie on the World of Soccer.

2701
02:28:09,640 --> 02:28:13,160
Speaker 2: All right, there you have it, and we next Saturday

2702
02:28:13,280 --> 02:28:16,280
Speaker 2: is November first, by the way, and it will lead

2703
02:28:16,320 --> 02:28:20,000
Speaker 2: into sun November tewod which will allow me. I'm the

2704
02:28:20,080 --> 02:28:22,440
Speaker 2: only person on the network that does this. The five

2705
02:28:22,520 --> 02:28:27,680
Speaker 2: hour Stravaganti ship will do five hours because at two

2706
02:28:28,120 --> 02:28:32,440
Speaker 2: am Pacific time, as well as anytime anytime zone, the

2707
02:28:32,520 --> 02:28:37,160
Speaker 2: clock turns back to one, so we'll do five hours.

2708
02:28:37,240 --> 02:28:38,880
Speaker 2: It's like the fourth year, fifth year in a row.

2709
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:40,760
Speaker 2: More than that, probably seventh or eighth year, and orrow

2710
02:28:40,760 --> 02:28:42,440
Speaker 2: I've done it. No reason I bring that up. It's

2711
02:28:42,480 --> 02:28:45,280
Speaker 2: hard to believe. November is already here. Then December, and

2712
02:28:45,320 --> 02:28:47,160
Speaker 2: then we get into twenty twenty six and it is

2713
02:28:47,240 --> 02:28:50,840
Speaker 2: a World Cup year, which brings us to full circle,

2714
02:28:50,879 --> 02:28:54,360
Speaker 2: which when we originally introduced the World of Soccer heading

2715
02:28:54,360 --> 02:28:57,680
Speaker 2: into the World Cup in the fall of twenty twenty two.

2716
02:28:57,879 --> 02:29:01,600
Speaker 2: You may remember our first game United States was against

2717
02:29:01,680 --> 02:29:04,840
Speaker 2: England the day after Thanksgiving Day. Too much fanfare and

2718
02:29:04,920 --> 02:29:07,560
Speaker 2: I think the game ended up being a tie, but

2719
02:29:08,320 --> 02:29:10,840
Speaker 2: there'll be plenty of news going on as well. Coming up.

2720
02:29:10,879 --> 02:29:15,039
Speaker 2: We wrap up the show, and also I will continue

2721
02:29:15,120 --> 02:29:18,600
Speaker 2: on with some of the noteworthy of the twenty seven

2722
02:29:19,560 --> 02:29:24,680
Speaker 2: gambling consternation issues that have rocked I see that in

2723
02:29:24,760 --> 02:29:27,560
Speaker 2: air quotes the sports world. They're still here. They're still

2724
02:29:27,600 --> 02:29:33,960
Speaker 2: doing just fine. So it's not like this Chauncey Billups

2725
02:29:34,360 --> 02:29:37,200
Speaker 2: Terry Rozier Damon Jones situation right out on the line

2726
02:29:37,640 --> 02:29:42,119
Speaker 2: is new. I mean, the story itself is pretty wacky,

2727
02:29:42,760 --> 02:29:46,440
Speaker 2: but the notion there's some other wacky ones here that

2728
02:29:46,560 --> 02:29:48,920
Speaker 2: you forgot about. So give you a timeline. We're not

2729
02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:50,800
Speaker 2: going to go over all twenty seven, but I'll give

2730
02:29:50,800 --> 02:29:54,800
Speaker 2: you a timeline in jog your memory as to some

2731
02:29:54,959 --> 02:29:59,360
Speaker 2: of the more noteworthy gambling in fractions as it were,

2732
02:29:59,720 --> 02:30:04,160
Speaker 2: that involved players in professional sports. I'm Bernie Friddle Wire

2733
02:30:04,160 --> 02:30:06,480
Speaker 2: coming toy line from Lata Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

2734
02:30:06,840 --> 02:30:08,600
Speaker 2: Don't go wait, listen to the Bernie Fraddle Show on

2735
02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:10,560
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're wrapping it up on

2736
02:30:10,600 --> 02:30:13,800
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Coming in from

2737
02:30:13,800 --> 02:30:16,600
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Before I go

2738
02:30:16,680 --> 02:30:20,680
Speaker 2: any further, I think my producers Mark and Brianna appreciate

2739
02:30:20,760 --> 02:30:27,280
Speaker 2: all your efforts tonight keeping the show on the air. Also,

2740
02:30:27,360 --> 02:30:32,360
Speaker 2: I want to remind you next Saturday, November one, heading

2741
02:30:32,400 --> 02:30:35,560
Speaker 2: into Sunday, November two, no matter where you may live

2742
02:30:35,640 --> 02:30:38,400
Speaker 2: here in the United States, you're gonna get that extra

2743
02:30:38,480 --> 02:30:40,160
Speaker 2: hour sleep, You're gonna lose an hour day light. We

2744
02:30:40,360 --> 02:30:43,280
Speaker 2: lose daylight saving time. We go back to standard time,

2745
02:30:43,320 --> 02:30:48,360
Speaker 2: which means at two am on Sunday, November tewod you

2746
02:30:48,440 --> 02:30:51,720
Speaker 2: will turn your clocks back an hour, which means in

2747
02:30:51,760 --> 02:30:55,119
Speaker 2: the middle of my show on Pacific time, from eleven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific on Saturday night to three am Pacific on

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02:30:58,360 --> 02:31:01,200
Speaker 2: Sunday morning, we'll turn it back an hour, which means

2750
02:31:01,720 --> 02:31:04,160
Speaker 2: for the I think seventh year in a row, I

2751
02:31:04,240 --> 02:31:08,920
Speaker 2: will do the five hour daylight savings extravagance and I

2752
02:31:09,040 --> 02:31:13,080
Speaker 2: am here for it. Lots of material and we have

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02:31:13,720 --> 02:31:17,360
Speaker 2: some excellent guests that night night as well as we'll

2754
02:31:17,360 --> 02:31:19,080
Speaker 2: turn the clock back at two and two will be

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02:31:19,120 --> 02:31:20,920
Speaker 2: one again to we do one o'clock twice. In two

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02:31:20,959 --> 02:31:24,240
Speaker 2: o'clock we'll sign off for three which are really before Well,

2757
02:31:24,360 --> 02:31:26,960
Speaker 2: you get the picture daylight savings time, you lose an

2758
02:31:26,959 --> 02:31:30,800
Speaker 2: hour next week, so we'll be doing a five hour show,

2759
02:31:32,480 --> 02:31:35,000
Speaker 2: all right. So the news that took all the air

2760
02:31:35,040 --> 02:31:36,440
Speaker 2: out of the room and taking a lot of the

2761
02:31:36,480 --> 02:31:38,440
Speaker 2: air out of this show tonight is, of course the

2762
02:31:39,440 --> 02:31:44,039
Speaker 2: NBA indictments. But there have been twenty seven such none

2763
02:31:44,160 --> 02:31:46,720
Speaker 2: that quite rise to this level, but twenty seven such

2764
02:31:47,440 --> 02:31:49,879
Speaker 2: newsworthy items, and I just gave you a few of them,

2765
02:31:50,959 --> 02:31:54,800
Speaker 2: you know, with Josh Shawn Calvin Ridley, let's talk about

2766
02:31:54,879 --> 02:31:57,720
Speaker 2: some of the more noteworthy ones. You may or may

2767
02:31:57,800 --> 02:32:02,760
Speaker 2: not remember. Twenty twenty two, Miles Austin, who was a

2768
02:32:02,800 --> 02:32:05,560
Speaker 2: wide receiver coach with the Jets. A wide receiver coach.

2769
02:32:06,040 --> 02:32:10,400
Speaker 2: He was suspended for violating the NFL's gambling policy two

2770
02:32:10,480 --> 02:32:14,520
Speaker 2: days before Christmas twenty twenty two, but it got a

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02:32:14,560 --> 02:32:18,160
Speaker 2: little heated up about four months later. You may remember this,

2772
02:32:18,440 --> 02:32:21,720
Speaker 2: I do, especially because the NFL in one day and

2773
02:32:21,760 --> 02:32:25,760
Speaker 2: the in poetial twenty twenty three, suspended five players for betting.

2774
02:32:26,200 --> 02:32:29,440
Speaker 2: Four of them at the time were Detroit Lions players.

2775
02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:33,680
Speaker 2: One that still is Jamison Williams out of Alabama, who's

2776
02:32:33,720 --> 02:32:36,200
Speaker 2: now barely starting to reach some of that potential they

2777
02:32:36,240 --> 02:32:37,800
Speaker 2: thought he had when he drafted him and this is

2778
02:32:37,840 --> 02:32:41,080
Speaker 2: his third year in the league. Quintes Sephis, CJ. Moore,

2779
02:32:41,160 --> 02:32:45,840
Speaker 2: Stanley Barry Hill and then Washington Commanders and in Shaka Toni.

2780
02:32:46,120 --> 02:32:50,800
Speaker 2: They were all suspended for sports betting. Williams and Barry

2781
02:32:50,840 --> 02:32:53,920
Speaker 2: Hill received six game suspensions. They were betting on non

2782
02:32:54,040 --> 02:32:56,840
Speaker 2: NFL games. But here's the deal. They were doing it

2783
02:32:56,959 --> 02:33:00,920
Speaker 2: from the Allen Park facility. In the metadata picked it up.

2784
02:33:01,640 --> 02:33:05,320
Speaker 2: The other guys were suspended indefinitely. That made bigger news

2785
02:33:05,800 --> 02:33:08,560
Speaker 2: because people thought, well, does that mean you can sit

2786
02:33:08,600 --> 02:33:10,720
Speaker 2: in your car and bet on your app? But then

2787
02:33:10,720 --> 02:33:15,600
Speaker 2: when you walk in the building, look the following show.

2788
02:33:16,320 --> 02:33:19,040
Speaker 2: And this is why Geelen Browns comments just ring hollow

2789
02:33:19,160 --> 02:33:21,920
Speaker 2: to me. Players know, they go through all kinds of

2790
02:33:22,000 --> 02:33:24,880
Speaker 2: symposium and they're told what not to do. Maybe work

2791
02:33:24,920 --> 02:33:26,680
Speaker 2: with players you don't know, you're not supposed to do this,

2792
02:33:26,800 --> 02:33:32,000
Speaker 2: all right. May twenty twenty three adventured into the world

2793
02:33:32,080 --> 02:33:35,000
Speaker 2: of college baseball. We had my guy, Matt Hohleton, who

2794
02:33:35,080 --> 02:33:39,960
Speaker 2: founded US Integrity because the Alabama fired their baseball coach

2795
02:33:40,040 --> 02:33:44,880
Speaker 2: Brad Bohannan regarding a game that I think was played

2796
02:33:44,920 --> 02:33:46,879
Speaker 2: on May fourth, twenty twenty three, after he was found

2797
02:33:46,920 --> 02:33:49,720
Speaker 2: to be connected with betting activity. The team is on

2798
02:33:49,840 --> 02:33:53,520
Speaker 2: the road in Ohio was concerning an LSU Alabama game

2799
02:33:54,160 --> 02:33:57,200
Speaker 2: and there was some sort of inside information I think

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02:33:57,240 --> 02:33:59,640
Speaker 2: coming from the coach. I don't remember, but Alabama is

2801
02:33:59,640 --> 02:34:04,560
Speaker 2: a fire their baseball coach college baseball. That same month,

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02:34:04,720 --> 02:34:08,400
Speaker 2: Iowa and Iowa State announced the gambling probe that dozens

2803
02:34:08,440 --> 02:34:12,320
Speaker 2: of athletes across multiple men's sports including baseball, football, and basketball,

2804
02:34:12,879 --> 02:34:16,279
Speaker 2: as well as a certain full time time Iowa athletic

2805
02:34:16,400 --> 02:34:21,560
Speaker 2: employe Athletic Department employee, were suspended of those rules as well.

2806
02:34:22,160 --> 02:34:26,840
Speaker 2: June four more players in the NFL were suspended for

2807
02:34:26,959 --> 02:34:31,080
Speaker 2: gambling violations. Then Colts cornerback Isaiah Rodgers, in defensive Envershad Berry,

2808
02:34:31,760 --> 02:34:36,560
Speaker 2: Demitrius Taylor, and a Titan Titans lineman named Nicholas petite

2809
02:34:36,640 --> 02:34:42,520
Speaker 2: Frereer they also violated the NFL's gambling policy. Two of

2810
02:34:42,560 --> 02:34:46,320
Speaker 2: them were suspended, and definitely one received a six game suspension,

2811
02:34:46,560 --> 02:34:52,320
Speaker 2: again for betting on non NFL sports at a club facility.

2812
02:34:53,480 --> 02:34:57,000
Speaker 2: You're at work. Well, the NHL got involved in October

2813
02:34:57,080 --> 02:35:00,400
Speaker 2: twenty three. On October twenty six, twenty three, Ottawa Centers

2814
02:35:00,680 --> 02:35:04,840
Speaker 2: forward Shane Pinto suspended forty one games for activities related

2815
02:35:04,879 --> 02:35:09,080
Speaker 2: to sports wagering. It was the NHL's first betting related

2816
02:35:09,120 --> 02:35:14,760
Speaker 2: suspension in this new era of online gambling back to

2817
02:35:14,879 --> 02:35:17,200
Speaker 2: the college ranks, which spilled into the NFL. Now he's

2818
02:35:17,200 --> 02:35:19,240
Speaker 2: currently a wide receiver for the New England Patriots. Been

2819
02:35:19,240 --> 02:35:22,680
Speaker 2: In January twenty twenty four, Kishan Today was arrested in

2820
02:35:23,120 --> 02:35:27,000
Speaker 2: charged with computer fraud and gaming prohibited for persons under

2821
02:35:27,040 --> 02:35:30,560
Speaker 2: twenty one, and Louisiana State Police had announced he participated

2822
02:35:30,640 --> 02:35:34,520
Speaker 2: in sports gambling for a period of about thirteen months.

2823
02:35:35,360 --> 02:35:38,600
Speaker 2: The state letter dropped the charges. Now, this one was

2824
02:35:38,680 --> 02:35:40,600
Speaker 2: really weird, and we tried to report it, but there's

2825
02:35:40,920 --> 02:35:45,360
Speaker 2: limited It's the damna thing I've ever seen. The Jacksonville

2826
02:35:45,400 --> 02:35:49,040
Speaker 2: Jaguars in March of twenty twenty four had an employee

2827
02:35:49,160 --> 02:35:51,480
Speaker 2: his name. He was in front offs employee, not a player.

2828
02:35:52,600 --> 02:35:54,640
Speaker 2: Sentenced to six and a half years in prison. Why

2829
02:35:55,800 --> 02:35:59,240
Speaker 2: he allegedly stole twenty two million from the team. Sentenced

2830
02:35:59,240 --> 02:36:01,320
Speaker 2: to six and a half year in prison. He pleaded

2831
02:36:01,320 --> 02:36:04,240
Speaker 2: guilty in December twenty twenty three to charges of wire

2832
02:36:04,320 --> 02:36:08,560
Speaker 2: fraud and illegal money transaction. The attorney said the vast

2833
02:36:08,680 --> 02:36:13,360
Speaker 2: majority of the money was stolen, get this to subsidize

2834
02:36:13,560 --> 02:36:18,600
Speaker 2: gambling losses. And then the big bombshell in March of

2835
02:36:18,640 --> 02:36:21,199
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, the Dodgers fights. He was like ganging

2836
02:36:21,280 --> 02:36:26,560
Speaker 2: history now, doesn't it. The Dodgers fired sho Hey Otani's interpreter,

2837
02:36:26,720 --> 02:36:31,400
Speaker 2: Ipium is Ahara, March twentieth, twenty twenty four. And I

2838
02:36:31,480 --> 02:36:35,440
Speaker 2: remember I did the Ben Mallor show around that time.

2839
02:36:35,640 --> 02:36:38,039
Speaker 2: Oh maybe it was a couple weeks before, and callers

2840
02:36:38,080 --> 02:36:41,040
Speaker 2: were calling in convinced that show had something to do

2841
02:36:41,120 --> 02:36:42,680
Speaker 2: with this. And I never believed he did, and I

2842
02:36:42,760 --> 02:36:44,520
Speaker 2: don't think he did, and we'll never know, but I

2843
02:36:44,560 --> 02:36:47,600
Speaker 2: don't think he did. But he wasn't amplicated anyway. But

2844
02:36:47,959 --> 02:36:52,640
Speaker 2: this ipium is Ahara was accused of engaging in what

2845
02:36:53,640 --> 02:36:57,840
Speaker 2: was termed as quote massive theft and using Otani's money

2846
02:36:57,920 --> 02:37:00,400
Speaker 2: to place bets, and that the question was how did

2847
02:37:00,400 --> 02:37:02,520
Speaker 2: he get ahold of his bank account? How did the

2848
02:37:02,560 --> 02:37:05,520
Speaker 2: banks allow this? Et cetera, et cetera. He was ultimately

2849
02:37:05,560 --> 02:37:08,600
Speaker 2: sentenced to fifty seven months in federal prison. He stole

2850
02:37:09,240 --> 02:37:12,360
Speaker 2: seventeen million from Otani to cover sports gambling debts, and

2851
02:37:12,440 --> 02:37:15,640
Speaker 2: then he also had to complete guilty to one count

2852
02:37:15,680 --> 02:37:18,560
Speaker 2: of bank fraud and one count of subscribing to a

2853
02:37:18,680 --> 02:37:23,119
Speaker 2: false tax return. Again we reported on this. In April

2854
02:37:23,200 --> 02:37:26,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, the NBA banned Johnte Porter for life

2855
02:37:26,879 --> 02:37:29,680
Speaker 2: when they found he told the Sports Better he was injured,

2856
02:37:29,680 --> 02:37:31,840
Speaker 2: removed himself from a game to control a prop debt

2857
02:37:32,080 --> 02:37:34,680
Speaker 2: san from mayor, and he was also playing placing bets

2858
02:37:35,240 --> 02:37:40,560
Speaker 2: on NBA games. June of that year, major League Baseball

2859
02:37:40,640 --> 02:37:45,480
Speaker 2: player Major League Baseball disciplines in umpire an umpire by

2860
02:37:45,520 --> 02:37:49,000
Speaker 2: the name of Pat Holberg for violating gambling rules. How

2861
02:37:49,040 --> 02:37:51,480
Speaker 2: about Notre Dame's men's swimming team was part of a

2862
02:37:51,560 --> 02:37:54,280
Speaker 2: probe in August of twenty twenty four, and then we

2863
02:37:54,360 --> 02:37:57,160
Speaker 2: get to January twenty twenty five. Tell me if this

2864
02:37:57,320 --> 02:38:01,600
Speaker 2: sounds Familier Terry Roseier is under federal investigation for a

2865
02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:04,600
Speaker 2: Betty's game now prior to that, and this news broke

2866
02:38:04,720 --> 02:38:09,520
Speaker 2: January thirtieth of this past year, nine months ago, that

2867
02:38:09,640 --> 02:38:13,840
Speaker 2: Terry Rozier was under federal investigation for possibly and manipulating

2868
02:38:13,879 --> 02:38:16,280
Speaker 2: its performance in the twenty twenty three game that we

2869
02:38:16,760 --> 02:38:19,760
Speaker 2: talked about. By the way, again talked about this with

2870
02:38:19,879 --> 02:38:23,240
Speaker 2: Mark Medina. He was supposedly investigated by the NBA and

2871
02:38:23,280 --> 02:38:25,920
Speaker 2: they cleared him. We don't know what happened there. Malik

2872
02:38:26,000 --> 02:38:29,480
Speaker 2: Beasley was a person of interest in a gambling related

2873
02:38:29,520 --> 02:38:33,480
Speaker 2: federaling investigation. His lawyer said he's an ex Piston player.

2874
02:38:33,800 --> 02:38:36,720
Speaker 2: He's now a free agent. Was not a target of

2875
02:38:36,800 --> 02:38:40,160
Speaker 2: DOJ's investigation in sports gambling, but he was part of

2876
02:38:40,160 --> 02:38:44,440
Speaker 2: an investigation. Louis Ortiz Major League Baseball and now the

2877
02:38:44,520 --> 02:38:49,880
Speaker 2: Krem De l Krem, johncy Billips, Terry Rozier and the like.

2878
02:38:50,560 --> 02:38:52,440
Speaker 2: And we will see where the story goes. I don't

2879
02:38:52,480 --> 02:38:54,920
Speaker 2: know where it's going to go. Everybody seems to believe

2880
02:38:55,000 --> 02:38:57,400
Speaker 2: that it's the tip of the iceberg. They may be right.

2881
02:38:57,680 --> 02:38:58,200
Speaker 1: How do we know?

2882
02:38:58,680 --> 02:39:00,760
Speaker 2: We'll find out it's going to do for then Frattle Show,

2883
02:39:01,040 --> 02:39:03,000
Speaker 2: We'll see you next Saturday night for the five hours

2884
02:39:03,080 --> 02:39:05,080
Speaker 2: drive again to the Daylight Savings. Keep it locked up

2885
02:39:05,120 --> 02:39:07,600
Speaker 2: next to Great Andy for a perman Fox Sports Radio