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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast is fresh out of sunny drops.

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Speaker 1: Well repopulate people, we need you.

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Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I am Dan Hansis. I have heroes here, Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 2: Mark Sessler. It is the flagship show, Sunday Night Edition.

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Speaker 1: Week four and an interesting week.

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Speaker 3: It was, gentlemen, it's Woodshed Week in the NFL. I remember,

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Speaker 3: like we used to try to come up with themes

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Speaker 3: or NFL Primetime would do that. It's like it's comeback week.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, this got jacked up. And I'm just looking

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Speaker 3: at the scores here and it was a lot of

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Speaker 3: teams taken to the woodshed.

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Speaker 1: Oh wood shot of I like that wood shed.

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Speaker 4: I've been scanning like the like the last couple of minutes,

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Speaker 4: like the last three weeks prior, and there have been

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Speaker 4: a surplus of blowouts.

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Speaker 1: What about the boat race regalia?

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we were due for a correction because all

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Speaker 3: last season, all we have heard how it was the

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Speaker 3: closest margin of error in NFL history, the most close

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Speaker 3: games in NFL history, and the NFL is really pumping

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Speaker 3: that up. I was thinking, like, isn't that just kind

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Speaker 3: of a little random.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: It seemed it seemed like every just saying.

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Speaker 4: But even this week, you games that like end up

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Speaker 4: like you think they're over and it's like, no, they're not.

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Speaker 4: But they you know, we're destined to go a fifth

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Speaker 4: quarter on two or three of these every week.

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Speaker 1: This guy gets it.

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Speaker 2: I would Mark, I would like to get going with

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Speaker 2: the show because we've got a bunch of games to

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Speaker 2: get to. But Mark, but Greg had woodshed week, I

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Speaker 2: had the boat race for Galia.

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Speaker 4: H.

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Speaker 7: Bomb drops Sunday Part four?

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Speaker 2: Okay, very Mark answer, Bomb Drop Sunday Part four. By

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Speaker 2: the way, we might have to drop a bomb behind

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Speaker 2: the glass? Can we bring in Eric real quick? You

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Speaker 2: know we love Roberts's Robert. He does unbelievable work behind

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Speaker 2: the glass. I try, but I did it. There were

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Speaker 2: some snitches out there on Twitter that over the past

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Speaker 2: week that let me know that there were no bongos

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Speaker 2: in week three.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, no bongos.

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Speaker 3: You said you want to get to the show, and

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Speaker 3: you dropped this bomb right away.

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Speaker 1: Well this is important.

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Speaker 8: I don't know how much of a curtain we want

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Speaker 8: to pull back, but we had to do a little

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Speaker 8: reset last week and it was intended for the Dolphins

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Speaker 8: the game. It was the first highlight of the show.

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Speaker 8: I was thrown off. I will take the al on

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Speaker 8: that one. You know what, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Not necessary, it's just important. If this show doesn't have bongos,

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Speaker 2: it has no need to exist.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 2: So this makes this is one of the most important

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Speaker 2: bongo shows in the history of the Sunday flagship show.

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Speaker 1: Who gets double bongos? Essential? You get credited for two bongos?

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Speaker 7: You gotta get it right.

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Speaker 2: It's like skins competition and golf. All right, Let's get

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Speaker 2: to the action. Let's start with the game that everyone

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Speaker 2: had circled. The game with the supposedly unstoppable Dolphins offense

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Speaker 2: heading to Orchard Park to take on Oh.

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Speaker 1: Eric Roberts's Buffalo Bills. Would the Bills be ready to play? Oh? Yes,

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Speaker 1: they were. First player to fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: Three receivers left Cook in the backfield to the right

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Speaker 4: The shotgun handoff fakes to Cook keeper by Allen, and.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna sail into the end.

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Speaker 5: Zone an eleven.

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Speaker 9: Yard touchdown run on the quarterback keeper.

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Speaker 7: an extra point pending.

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Speaker 2: My own you know that was with fourteen minutes to

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Speaker 2: play in the fourth quarter. Humble pie for the Dolphins,

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Speaker 2: served up by Josh Allen, who threw four touchdown passes

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Speaker 2: it's first lost, a forty eight to twenty win in

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Speaker 1: Gregy.

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Speaker 2: This was the first overall pick in our draft on

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Speaker 2: Thursday for a reason. It's the game everybody wanted to see.

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Speaker 2: How come it turned into one sided blowout.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes blowouts are entertaining, and a team like the Bills

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Speaker 3: put on a show and you can have your seventy

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Speaker 3: point offense and you can have all the fastest players

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Speaker 3: in the league according to net extend stats, but there's

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Speaker 3: only one Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the all time Josh Allen games. M

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Speaker 3: I just thought the way he started this game. On

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Speaker 3: the very first drive, there was a play where Vic

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Speaker 3: Fangio calls a blitz and it was a perfectly time

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Speaker 3: and he hits an opposite hash throw to Stefan Diggs

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Speaker 3: for the first down seventeen yards Like it was nothing.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, that's an amazing play. Has a

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Speaker 3: dart for a touchdown. Later, fast forward a couple drives,

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Speaker 5: His ability to scramble and.

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Speaker 3: Just continue to buy time by time by time in

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Speaker 1: To me, was just like money performance.

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Speaker 3: It was just like Josh Allen in a nutshell. He

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Speaker 3: can beat you in structure, he can beat you out

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Speaker 3: of structure. He had four passing touchdowns, only four incompletions.

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Speaker 3: Everything it was great about Josh Allen's performance, even that

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Speaker 3: that he made this Dolphins defense, which has been disappointing

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Speaker 3: in general. I would say through three weeks, almost embarrassed

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Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy where we were like a fortnight

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Speaker 4: A lot of the talk was where is Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: that we knew, Like he's up and down. You're gonna

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Speaker 4: get the good version, the bad version. That Jets game

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Speaker 4: soiled everyone's impression of him. He has been absolutely pristine

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Speaker 4: for three weeks in a row. But I am justice

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Speaker 4: impressed with their defense because you know, I also feel

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Speaker 4: They were completely bottled up on the ground for the

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Speaker 4: And I think there's this thing with two where it's

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Speaker 4: he's been awesome, but it's kind of like this was

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Speaker 4: don't know this thing. This operation did not work. As

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Speaker 4: if someone told me the score might be reversed Like

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Speaker 4: a couple of days ago, I'd been like, the Dolphins

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Speaker 4: it's a massive comeback down to earth game.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's why it's okay to take some

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Speaker 2: air out of the balloon here, because as impressive as

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Speaker 1: The road, here's like a real test.

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Speaker 2: This is the one where it's like, okay, and it

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean they can't get off the mat, but you

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Speaker 2: want to see the Dolphins go up to Buffalo and really,

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Speaker 2: if not win, I put up a fight, and Greg,

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Speaker 2: I you know, this is a game I'm looking forward

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Speaker 2: to watching in full. But the defense, it has been

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Speaker 2: Big Fangio defenses are known to take time to come together.

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Speaker 2: So just a reminder, like when the offense isn't clicking

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Bills scored a touchdown on virtually every

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Speaker 3: But the Bills defense made more plays. I thought Two

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Speaker 3: have played a strong game overall. But they did some

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Speaker 3: things to disrupt the timing, as you mentioned, to send

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Speaker 3: so much. Very different than the Patriots, who I think

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Speaker 3: the Patriots were in total prevent mode. Let's just not

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Speaker 3: let them score seventy on us. The Bills came after them,

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Speaker 3: and it works sometimes and it didn't work others. And

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Speaker 3: I think two actually played pretty well. But Terrell Bernard's

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Speaker 3: He prevented to A going to his first read on

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Speaker 3: day Kwon Jones, Leonard Floyd, Sean Mcdermot's different than Leslie Frazier.

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Speaker 3: He is coming after defenses. They've been very aggressive and

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Speaker 3: it was impressive today. They're better up front on both

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Speaker 3: ever been, which is scary. Under McDermott. Their offensive line

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Speaker 3: also playing well. I know the rushing yards don't standout,

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Speaker 3: but in short yarded situations they're now just handing the

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: With Alan playing at this level last three weeks and

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Speaker 2: you could argue he's playing better than any quarterback in

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Speaker 2: the league. After that ugly Week one against the Jets,

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Speaker 2: the Bills start to look terrifying. Mike McDaniel, Dolphins coach,

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Speaker 2: you never can get him in the show.

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Speaker 1: We will.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you have just fun to hear him talk. He's

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Speaker 2: just one of those dudes. He was handing out flowers

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Speaker 2: to the opponent after the loss.

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Speaker 10: First off, I think the Buffalo Bills proved why they

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Speaker 10: are are the the team that you know that our

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Speaker 10: whole division is trying to beat. They've you know, wanted

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Speaker 10: for how many years in a row?

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Speaker 2: Now, I mean he's not wrong many. I think it's

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Speaker 2: been three maybe four years in a row. Not all

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Speaker 2: good news, guys. Before we move on, Tredavious White very

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Speaker 2: important piece of that secondary for Buffalo kind of a heart,

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Speaker 2: heart and soul piece of the defense suffers what appears

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Speaker 2: to be a serious Achilles injury. Let's hear from Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 2: who did not paint an optimistic picture.

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Speaker 11: They're obviously still evaluating. Yeah, I mean, he's been through

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Speaker 11: a lot, and sometimes you wonder, right, why things like

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Speaker 11: that happen twice? You know, you know to someone, I'm

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Speaker 11: not saying what.

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Speaker 5: It is, what it is.

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Speaker 11: I'm just saying, like, you know, you just you just

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Speaker 11: wonder why, because you watch him how hard he's worked

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Speaker 11: to give back.

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Speaker 1: That is a cool thing.

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Speaker 2: So all around, other than the Trenavius White injury, great

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Speaker 2: let us head to Indy. I call this the Frisky Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Rams cults two of the most fun teams to watch

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Speaker 1: Let's get to it.

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Speaker 1: Here comes the rush.

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Speaker 7: He throws white side alone, hits Pookah.

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Speaker 12: At the five, a walk off winter Pooka nakula in

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Speaker 1: It means no worries for the rest of today. It's

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Speaker 7: Free Rams victory. Whoa ja going the distance with that?

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Speaker 2: I love this is this JB. Long going into his

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable finish for the La Rams. I find these types

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Speaker 2: This is a game that the Rams were up twenty

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Speaker 2: It was just so impressive. He is such a great playmaker.

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Speaker 7: And it's like this kind of to your point, Dan, like.

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Speaker 7: Like they didn't.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that, because Mark I was texting

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Speaker 1: But the most important thing was the message mentally and

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Speaker 2: If you're watching this on YouTube, watch that game and

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Speaker 3: You don't want to overrate a week four win, they

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Speaker 4: Can I ask your question, Den's like, I watched as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this was a game where the box score,

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Speaker 1: It was like five for fourteen or five for fifty.

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Speaker 7: He's produced these things like this before.

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Speaker 2: You know, it didn't feel like to me like he

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Speaker 1: But when he turned it.

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Speaker 4: So bird's eye view not the first thing I'd want

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Speaker 5: He does say he'll be out there next week.

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Speaker 2: Stroud is off to.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Stroud is the rookie of the year right now,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's fair.

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Speaker 3: eight yards per attempt and six or seven big time

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Speaker 3: plays in there, so you'll take that trade.

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Speaker 1: He's fun, he's exciting, he's special, interesting, Okay. Now, c J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud also you could explain him in that manner. And

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Speaker 2: here's what happened in Houston today.

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Speaker 7: Third and seven from the Texans forty eight. Stroud shotgun

448
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Speaker 7: motor in the backfield with him.

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Speaker 1: CJ gets to snap, CJ throwing downfield.

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Speaker 5: And pop by Nico twenty five twenty Blake.

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Speaker 12: Tib tackle fifteen ten five rock and roll touchdown kuston.

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Speaker 1: C J.

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Speaker 12: Stroud with more third down magic to the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Mark Vandermier with a call Texans Radio. I always forget

455
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Speaker 2: that he does the rock and roll thing. There's something

456
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Speaker 2: like a wholesome uncle vibe about that from Vandermier.

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Speaker 4: Now they haven't rock and rolled in a while, and

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Speaker 4: that's it's you know, it's bringing it back.

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Speaker 1: Rookie CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud had another big time showing on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: He threw for over three hundred yards two.

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Speaker 2: Touchdowns and the and the Texans welcome to the boat

463
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Speaker 2: race for Galia where you get the bomb drops in

464
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Speaker 2: the woodshed thirty to six over the Steelers. Now we

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Speaker 2: welcome in a man that he drops bombs on every

466
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Speaker 2: local Jimmy steps into just with what he's putting up.

467
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Speaker 2: And he doesn't and he doesn't just work on the

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Speaker 2: beach muscles because he's a Midwest grinder.

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Speaker 1: Nick, how are you?

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Speaker 14: I'm fantastic, guys. I don't know if I dropping bombs

471
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Speaker 14: sounds destructive?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you are destructive in the gym. It must discuss

473
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Speaker 2: to you, Nick before. I don't want to get off here.

474
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Speaker 2: But when you see those guys a little twig legs

475
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Speaker 2: in the big biceps and they got they got the

476
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Speaker 2: beach muscles, but they're not strong men like you.

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Speaker 1: You're repulsed by that, aren't you.

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Speaker 14: They're not doing compound movements, they're skipping leg day. It's

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Speaker 14: all about the glamour muscles. Yeah, yeah, disgusted, absolutely revolted.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about the three of us when

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Speaker 4: you take a look at how we're appearing here in

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Speaker 4: the middle of in the early October.

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Speaker 1: No comment, You all look great? Okay, well it's been

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Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah, shookey Stroud again, what are you seeing?

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Speaker 14: I mean, he looks fantastic. He looks so Going into

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Speaker 14: this draft, with this draft class, I was kind of

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Speaker 14: confused by the consensus that surrounded Bryce Young because everyone

488
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Speaker 14: thought he's the far and away number one answer here,

489
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Speaker 14: he's got everything, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: It was great.

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Speaker 14: But what I saw in CJ. Stroud is somebody who

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Speaker 14: gave you the best chance to win if you played

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Speaker 14: them right away. What you're going to do with most

494
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Speaker 14: of those guys that you draft there because of his

495
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Speaker 14: accuracy x accuracy has been fantastic the last two games.

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Speaker 14: That touchdown passed and then highlight that you just rolled.

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Speaker 14: I mean he threw that in the perfect spot not

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Speaker 14: only for Nico Collins to make the catch, but to

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Speaker 14: catch and run down the sideline for a touchdown. He's

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Speaker 14: done that a number of times in his last couple

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Speaker 14: of games. Even in this first game he did that

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Speaker 14: a few times. He's very settled in and a huge

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Speaker 14: tip of the cap to offensive coordinator Bobby Slok, who

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Speaker 14: is doing everything right with CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud.

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Speaker 14: He's taking advantage of all of his strengths. He's scheming

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Speaker 14: the offense around them. They got a lot of young

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Speaker 14: talent over there that's all kind of making some plays there.

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Speaker 14: And he looks very comfortable and I think that's the

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Speaker 14: most important part. He is not sped up by the game.

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Speaker 14: He's playing really good football right now.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: Slowik is one of the more interesting stories because he's

514
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Speaker 4: got a PFF background and he was under Shanahan for

515
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Speaker 4: a bit in San Francisco. Hasn't like called plays like

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Speaker 4: this before, which you hear the narrative about it takes

517
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Speaker 4: a couple of years to you even figure out situationally

518
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Speaker 4: what you're doing. But he's done so much with these

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Speaker 4: young players, and I think like his fingerprints are all

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Speaker 4: over Stroud.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, you're right. The background is the whole Shanahan tree,

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Speaker 14: and that's what we're seeing first and foremost is a

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Speaker 14: coach who knows how to adapt to the strengths of

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Speaker 14: his player and to where they're just sliding right in

525
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Speaker 14: and being very calm. Surprised even myself and I thought

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Speaker 14: very highly of Stroud coming out of Ohio State, that

527
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Speaker 14: he was going to be the guy that could go

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Speaker 14: win you games the quickest in the NFL. Maybe not

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Speaker 14: the highest seeling. I think the highest seeling belongs to

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Speaker 14: Anthony Richardson, but he was gonna be a guy that

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Speaker 14: can step in and win games. Even I'm surprised by

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Speaker 14: his performance in the first month the season, where fifty

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Speaker 14: percent if not more, of his games had been so

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Speaker 14: encouraging that when Greg says, you know, he's the rookie

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Speaker 14: of the year right now offensively, you have to agree that's.

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Speaker 5: Not even close. Well, i'd be a pro bowler.

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Speaker 3: It's four yeames in, but just at this point, I mean,

538
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Speaker 3: they're boat racing the Jags. They're boat racing the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: And the thing he's been best at, I think is

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Speaker 3: dealing with pressure. He hasn't been sacked in the last

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Speaker 3: two weeks, and Laramie Tunzel's out again today. Most of

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Speaker 3: their offensive line is out there playing the Steelers and

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Speaker 3: he's not making negative plays.

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Speaker 5: It's so impressive.

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Speaker 3: What was up with the Steelers defense here today, and

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Speaker 3: what was up with Mike Tomlin Punton on fourth and

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Speaker 3: two down twenty three to six in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that is something that I know drives Steelers

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Speaker 3: fans crazy. But Mike Tomlin is like an all time

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Speaker 3: like I'm going to give up on the game and punch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a guy.

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Speaker 5: It drives me crt.

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Speaker 14: That's a that's a message to his guys. We came

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Speaker 14: out flat, we got knocked in the mouth. We don't

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Speaker 14: deserve to still compete in this game. You guys didn't

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Speaker 14: give enough effort. We played like crap, and now we're

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Speaker 14: going to pay for it. Let's get back on the bus,

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Speaker 14: go to the plane and go back to Pitt.

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Speaker 2: That's like one of those and I do it now

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Speaker 2: with my own children, and it happened to me when

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Speaker 2: I was a kid. Sometimes the parental punishment doesn't make

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Speaker 2: any sense, and it's like this isn't really thought out,

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Speaker 2: but the parent doesn't want to They don't want to

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Speaker 2: give any ground on it at any level. Let's listen

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Speaker 2: shooky to Tomlin, who obviously you know they come off

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Speaker 2: two game winning streak here, but this this is now

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Speaker 2: another grizzly performance by the offense especially, and he was

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Speaker 2: hinting at could there be changes.

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Speaker 6: Mike says, yes, changes regarding hell yeah, we got to

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Speaker 6: make some changes, man. That was that was That was

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Speaker 6: an ugly product we put out there today. And so

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Speaker 6: we're not going to do the same things and and

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Speaker 6: hope for a different outcome. What those changes are, man,

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Speaker 6: we'll put together a plan. Uh, in preparation.

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Speaker 2: The biggest change shook would be the quarterback position, and

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Speaker 2: you have a Kenny Pickett who has not played well

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Speaker 2: this year, but he goes out with a knee injury

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Speaker 2: that we don't know the severity right now. Mitch Trubisky

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Speaker 2: could be on the field for them, but there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of mounting criticism around Matt Canada as well their

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Speaker 2: play caller. How do you see that breakdown in terms

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Speaker 2: of the struggles.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think that Pickett has not taken the step

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Speaker 14: forward that you expect from him. The offensive line hasn't

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Speaker 14: done him a lot of favors. Matt Canada has not

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Speaker 14: done him a lot of favors with his play calling.

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Speaker 14: The knee injury to me looked kind of bad. It's

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Speaker 14: not encouraging. So you might not see him for a

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Speaker 14: little bit. But more importantly than anything, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 14: who you put back there in quarterback unless you've got

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Speaker 14: God himself playing quarterback. It's going to be really hard

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Speaker 14: to overcome some of the situations that Matt Canada puts

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Speaker 14: them in. You know, last year and the year before

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Speaker 14: it was their offensive line is not good enough for

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Speaker 14: them to establish the ground game well.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 14: The play calling itself is just so disjointed that every

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Speaker 14: time I look at a play with Kenny Pickett dropping

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Speaker 14: back to pass, it feels like it's third and thirteen

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Speaker 14: and he's got no shot because they don't hold up

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Speaker 14: well enough for him to sit back there. He doesn't

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Speaker 14: look comfortable, he's pretty skittish, and when he does throw passes,

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Speaker 14: they're usually contested passes that he expects George Pickens to

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Speaker 14: make superhero plays on. So I'm not confident in this

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Speaker 14: offense at all, and it's really annoying because they have talent.

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Speaker 14: It's just not working right now, and I think a

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Speaker 14: lot of it has to do with the offense.

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Speaker 4: I do think God would probably pull off like a

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Speaker 4: higher passer rating than what we saw from Pickett today.

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Speaker 4: But your two leading receivers are running backs, so neither

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Speaker 4: one of them have more than thirty two yards. It's like,

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Speaker 4: I guess I can't find a team. I'm more disappointed

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Speaker 4: in after what I thought we'd be seeing in the

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Speaker 4: growth and development I thought we'd be seeing in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know why Canada was retained. I

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Speaker 4: think that was a surprise to begin with, But it's like,

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Speaker 4: how much longer do you keep Matt Canada?

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Speaker 14: Well, it depends on how you feel the potential of

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Speaker 14: this team really is for this year, because I think

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Speaker 14: if you can't replace an offensive cordinaor in the middle

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Speaker 14: of season and see an instant turnaround, so I think

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Speaker 14: you're kind of stuck to a degree with what you got.

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Speaker 3: That's how Canada got the job, though he did take

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Speaker 3: over in the middle of the season, and I think

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Speaker 3: he had a decent little run if I remember, and

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Speaker 3: then they ended up keeping the job. If God was

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Speaker 3: the quarterback, though, you know he would keep Deonte Johnson healthy.

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Speaker 3: Pratt Firemouth left in this game early with an injury,

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Speaker 3: so things are things are kind of snowball that year.

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Speaker 1: Why does God keep coming on?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, he said he said God would not be.

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Speaker 7: Able to go only God.

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Speaker 1: The Theology Podcast. Yeah, Jesu Louis.

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Speaker 14: Jogged over and just heals.

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Speaker 3: Deonta Texans are a real thing. Now they're in the mix.

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Speaker 3: They're in the playoff mix. The AFC South is kind

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Speaker 3: of fun.

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Speaker 1: Actually, it's a little bit frisky, shooky.

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Speaker 2: Let's head to Philadelphia where we had a game that

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Speaker 2: went right down to the end.

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Speaker 15: It is a fifty four yard attempt.

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Speaker 2: These kickers hold well, this kicker, yeah, but he's not a.

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Speaker 5: Top five is there?

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Speaker 1: You go there? Eagles win.

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Speaker 16: The Eagles win, lights out Johnson with those fourth field

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Speaker 16: goal of the.

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Speaker 2: Time MM, Jake Elliott, Yeah, you get past the velvet

648
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Speaker 2: ropes come on in. Buddy kicks four field goals, including

649
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Speaker 2: the fifty four yarder piped it to lift the Eagles

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Speaker 2: were to thirty four to thirty one win over the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: They are four and zero for the second straight year.

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Speaker 2: Elliott also kicked forty one, forty seven, and thirty six

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Speaker 2: before the last one. The Eagles fans go nuts and

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts shooky and the passing game. This is progress

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Speaker 2: on Sunday right in a game that was closer than

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Speaker 2: maybe some people thought it would be.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, typically Cap with the piped it reference to Jay Feely,

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Speaker 14: which is also a double reference at this point in

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Speaker 14: this show. So we've got multiple layers going on. But

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Speaker 14: Jalen hurts Man fantastic. First time that we really saw

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00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 14: this passing offense completely open up.

662
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: This season.

663
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Speaker 14: It's been a bit of a struggle. They've had to

664
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Speaker 14: rely on the ground game, but they did not have to,

665
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 14: you know, lean too much on DeAndre Swift in this game.

666
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 14: But it was It was a really fun battle. I

667
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 14: think on both sides. You know, it told me a

668
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 14: lot about Washington, but I was excited to see the

669
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Speaker 14: Eagles blow it and then bounce back and find a

670
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 14: way to win it with a long field goal. They

671
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 14: still have some minor issues, but they're a fun watches.

672
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 14: Escially when Hur's thrown around like this.

673
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: Give me some Sam Howell recap here, because the seat

674
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: to see Howell survive in an offensive shootout, you expect

675
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: more out of the Commander's defense. So, you know, credit

676
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: to the Eagles offense for putting it on them today,

677
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: but you don't expect the Commander's offense to kind of

678
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: be going toe for toe and give them that lead

679
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: early in this game.

680
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Speaker 14: Yeah, they had a ten point lead early on. I'm thinking, man,

681
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 14: they goett to run away with this? Is this going

682
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Speaker 14: to be one of those games where Sam Houses forget

683
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Speaker 14: about last week, for get my four ugly interceptions against Buffalo.

684
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Speaker 14: They don't matter because I'm winning the game of the

685
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 14: division this week and I'm doing it my way. They

686
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Speaker 14: did blow that lead, but what they did even better

687
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 14: was come back. I mean, down to the final play

688
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 14: of regulation, there's one second adjusted to two seconds left

689
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Speaker 14: in the clock.

690
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Speaker 7: He sits back there, cool.

691
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 14: As a cucumber, delivers a strike to the right side,

692
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 14: game tying touchdown on a drive that for a little bit.

693
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Speaker 14: You know, when they got in the Eagles territory inside,

694
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 14: like the forty, looked like they were just gonna flat

695
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 14: out run out of time. I mean even the broadcast

696
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 14: it's like they're taking too long.

697
00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: They got to go.

698
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 14: They got two plays out of the final ten seconds,

699
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 14: maybe three plays, yeah, three, and we're able to score

700
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 14: on the last one. Kid comes up in the clutch.

701
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 14: You know, he's gonna have some issues, some warts early

702
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 14: on in his career, but he's a gamer. He's a gamer.

703
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 14: With some ability, and he's really really fun to watch,

704
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 14: even though they lost this game.

705
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: I think he's had been sacked twenty four times, and

706
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I know a lot of that is on him.

707
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: It's the line, it's the whole thing that has to

708
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: be corrected at some point. I was so glad to

709
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: see the Eagles pull this out, though, because like AJ

710
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: Brown nine catches for one hundred and seventy five yard

711
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: and two touchdowns, and it's like, you're right, this just

712
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 4: shows you the power and the versatility of this offense.

713
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: But he had at the penalty, the taunting penalty after

714
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 4: that score, and it's like, I don't think if that happens,

715
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 4: and you can argue whether that was deserved or not.

716
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: If that penalty does not happen, like Washington probably runs

717
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: out of time and doesn't get close enough to do

718
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: what they needed to do at the end there, And

719
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 4: it's like he would have played quietly this goat role

720
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: when he's like an absolutely epic hero in this contest.

721
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, but you know what, I gave him a pass

722
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 14: for that because the taunting was so brief, happened live

723
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 14: in the thoughts.

724
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 7: I don't think it was a shaky call go for two.

725
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 14: And looked at him a little bit closely as he

726
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 14: was running.

727
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't like that, go for two, Go for two? Ron.

728
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: You know what all of Lincoln Financial Field was sweating

729
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: yes about and hoping that you didn't do Ron rivera

730
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: go for.

731
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: T where's the river boat?

732
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 7: Where it is retired?

733
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: Is get back on? Well?

734
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: Maybe because of the boat race for Galia was booked

735
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: up the waterway. It's gonna get out there, all right, Shooky,

736
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna let you off the hook.

737
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: Here. You can get on the boat so you don't

738
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: have to talk about the Browns. Yikes. Thank you sir

739
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: as always, and we'll see you next Sunday.

740
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 14: I was so merciful, guys.

741
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate you.

742
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah later, All right, let's take a break and then

743
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: we will move on. All right, welcome back. It is

744
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: time now for the Sunday Drive, presented by the first

745
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: ever Toyota Grand Highlander. Let's head to Big d where

746
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: cowboys were big Mad.

747
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: After an ugly week three showing.

748
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 17: Second and ten, Jones is back plenty of times, rolls right,

749
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 17: bottled up, throws back to that intercept down plea house,

750
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 17: Hello House, House, it's made.

751
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: Duran, Hello, house, that's our guy for Doran Blan.

752
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: Wow, that's our dude.

753
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: Damn God, Brad Sham the sham god with the call,

754
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: Duran Blan returned one of his two picks to the

755
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: house untouched. Leyton vander ash also scooped up a fumble

756
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: on a mac Jones uh sack ran it back for

757
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: a score in the Cowboys hammer the Patriots thirty eight

758
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: to three.

759
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: Interesting, boys, U, Greg mac Jones doesn't finish this game.

760
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: Uh, And there's going to be a ground swell of

761
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: people saying he's the reason why they got destroyed in

762
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Speaker 2: this game.

763
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: One of them is that is that fair?

764
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: Do you do you think the cow the Patriots are

765
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: heading towards something here with their one time first round pick.

766
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: Well, if if we're talking about that, we do have

767
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: Belichick on mac Jones out of the game, right, Like we.

768
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: Have a show where we could hear from Mike McDaniel

769
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: and Bill Bell.

770
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just hear him about mac Jones.

771
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: The games on the.

772
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 18: Led the decision to take mac out at three forty

773
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Speaker 18: one remaining in.

774
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Speaker 1: The third quarter.

775
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 13: I think there's any point leaving him in the game.

776
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 5: Will be starting next week against the Saints.

777
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, just so there's no point leaving him in the game,

778
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: Mike in grace.

779
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 19: I mean, yeah, do you think considered taking like jud

780
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 19: out on the other side or got.

781
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: Him in the ribs no effect? Yeah, I mean put

782
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: something some effect.

783
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 5: It's about ten agins the answer.

784
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 7: So Bill was he.

785
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 15: No, I said there was no point in leaving him

786
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 15: out there, so I took him out.

787
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 2: That pause, by the way that you heard, that pregnant

788
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: pause was Bill in his mind trying to figure out

789
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: if he could make Mike Reese disappear under the mess

790
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: pike and not be connected to it.

791
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 4: I mean, he's that's happened to other people connected with

792
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 4: wellots before.

793
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: Mike might be the leader in the clubhouse, is the

794
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: best beat writer out there in the game right now

795
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: in terms of longevity and quality.

796
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: Hey, you don't build under to the mess Pike unless

797
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick respects you.

798
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: But he's been there twenty years so he can ask

799
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: those tough questions. And he does plan to start him

800
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: next week. He did make it clear in that press conference.

801
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: He did say yes, once pressed on it, you know,

802
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: if Mac is going to start. But this is the

803
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 3: worst possible game in all ways. For the Patriots, mac

804
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: Jones mentally crumbled after a couple of pretty good drives.

805
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: I thought to start the game where they get a

806
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: field goal and then they turn it over on downs.

807
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: He is so unathletic, and you try to look past

808
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: that because he has other things that you know in

809
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: theory can make up for that. But let's look at

810
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: how they turned it over on downs. They do the

811
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 3: tush push right, and it was blocked up pretty well.

812
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: But mac Jones just sort of just like falls forward.

813
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: There was no defenders there, like he could have run forward.

814
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 3: They don't get it, and then the whole rest of

815
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: the game it turns into this Mac Jones like I'm

816
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: going to try to play hero ball and panicking and

817
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: really reminded me of a year ago where he's throwing

818
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: the ball across his body. Dron Bland almost had two

819
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: pick six. Dron Plain is a great player, by the way,

820
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: or a great young player, promising five picks as a

821
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: rookie last year. He didn't get a lot of pop

822
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 3: replacing treyvon Dick. So that's great for the Cowboys. We'll

823
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: get to the good part of the Cowboys. It's just

824
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: so many bad decisions, and then by the end middle

825
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 3: of the third quarter, why you had to take him

826
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: out even on plays that were perfectly blocked. Mack was

827
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 3: completely freaking out and kind of not throwing it to

828
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 3: open receivers and then doing crazy things, and so he's

829
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: mentally collapsing. You have no explosive element to your offense.

830
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: And then, as you heard from Mike Grease, Matt Judah,

831
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: their best defensive player gets hurt in the fourth quarter

832
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 3: of a total blowout. The way the teammates were talking

833
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: after the game, it sounded like it could be a

834
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: long term injury. They're reporting it as a biceps injury,

835
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: so that's probably a torn biceps in. Christian Gonzalez, their

836
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: defensive rookie of the month for September in the NFL,

837
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: left very early with what appeared to be a serious

838
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: shoulder injury. So everything that could go wrong did. It

839
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: was a humbling day for the Patriots.

840
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 7: The worst loss of Belichick's head.

841
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: Coaching career twenty four seasons, and Pats fans will remember

842
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: the other one. It was the season open against Buffalo

843
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: in two thousand and three thirty one zip.

844
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 5: Even worse than any Browns loss. Ye had to throw up.

845
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 7: Those Browns teams did not get blown out.

846
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: And the difference is like that, what did that two

847
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: thousand and three team do? Greg? They won the season,

848
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: they won the super Bowl. But everything feels different. Obviously

849
00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: everything is different.

850
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: He's not there anymore, but in general that the ship

851
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: feels like it's it's swaying a little bit. And I thought,

852
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: and I I, you know, this is not me being

853
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 2: a bitter jetspin, but I've seen the face, that face

854
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: that a quarterback makes when he's had a terrible day

855
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 2: and he's still going back out on the field. I

856
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: think Belichick made the right move to get him out

857
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: of that game because they showed him on the sideline

858
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: and you could.

859
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: Tell he was he had no answers.

860
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 5: Capitulated on some level.

861
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: And I thought he played really well the first three weeks,

862
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: but he today was a lot in him.

863
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: And we're gonna disagree on that because I don't see

864
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: the same level playing Mac Jones, even though he has

865
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: made throws this season at times, I just don't. I

866
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: don't think he's special or even or even maybe average.

867
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: And I'm wondering, as we and we could talk about

868
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: this down the line, but that Mac Jones mark becomes like,

869
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: if if this season goes where it might be going

870
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: for New England, that Mac Jones is a sacrificial lamb

871
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: after this, it's not Belichick and they get to start over,

872
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: and he gets to start over with a QB and

873
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: gets one last chance with this team.

874
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: I don't think that would be totally unfair other than

875
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 4: the fact that, like Bill Belichick scouted and picked this player.

876
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: So it's not entirely on mac Jones. Last year it was,

877
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 4: you know, complete freebie because you you had a you know,

878
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 4: chaos in the coaching situation. On offense, you've got Bill

879
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: O'Brien and Greg. I just don't see the player that

880
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 4: you see when it comes to mac Jones. I'm not

881
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: saying that you think he's some great guy, but.

882
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 5: I just think he can be average. But in their

883
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 5: offensive line has been so bad.

884
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 7: You're gonna be average.

885
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 4: You're going to float in another world in the AFC

886
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 4: or in the NFC, right and this is a team

887
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: right now that when I watch them on offense, it's

888
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 4: like your selling point was Ramandro Stevenson flat lining, Like

889
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 4: this isn't this is an offense from like nineteen ninety one.

890
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 4: There's there's defensive strengths, but like you're not, You're this

891
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: is not a modern day twenty twenty three offense.

892
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: No, they're They allowed the Cowboys and we can get

893
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: to the Cowboys now like to sit on these short routes.

894
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: And Bland was asked about it by our old colleague

895
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: Mike already after the game, about city on these routes,

896
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: and he's just like, hey, look that's what we saw

897
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: in film. And so what he's saying is they can't

898
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: push the ball down the field. Mac Jones doesn't have

899
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: the arm or athleticism to make extra plays down the field.

900
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: And then, more importantly to me, and this is completely

901
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: on Belichick. The whole team is on Belichick. And I

902
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: don't think Belichick will survive this season. Unless they win

903
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: eight or nine games, I think he'll be fired. I

904
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: also think it's a long way from saying they won't

905
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 3: win eight or nine games. It's early, it's one in three,

906
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: But I think I think Kraft will get rid of

907
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 3: him if it goes south. He put this entire team together.

908
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: They have no explosive players right now. Those are all

909
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 3: his players.

910
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: The juju signing, it's going to continue to build up

911
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: as another thing to point to. He just doesn't have

912
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: athleticism itself, it seems when he's trying to come out

913
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: of these routes.

914
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: It's it's ugly and the cowboys.

915
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: Like I said on Thursday, Bett, if this is a

916
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: big time team, you take that ugly Cardinals loss and

917
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: you take it out on a middling team in your building.

918
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: It's exactly what they did, which is why I was

919
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: so surprised that.

920
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 5: I'm waiting for those rain clouds.

921
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: There are l's that the rain Maker has taken over years,

922
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: and then there are capital l's.

923
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 5: This is uh, this is a big one.

924
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: This is a big one. You know, somebody's daughter isn't

925
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: getting braces.

926
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 7: No, too bad for her.

927
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: Somebody's son isn't going to promm.

928
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, you gotta play the long game. But you

929
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: gotta take the l's when they come.

930
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 7: How much does prom cost?

931
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: Oh, the toilet doesn't work. Now you got to go

932
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 2: outside because Greg picked with his.

933
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: Heart and not his head than before I thought I

934
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: was with the head.

935
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 3: You know, you guys got to accept this and you

936
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: got to move on when you've taken and now this

937
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 3: this poor credit.

938
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: It puts a lot of pressure on the rain Maker.

939
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: Now mark for the next one, because he's got a

940
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: as a showman. He's got to come out and say,

941
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: I know I let you down. This one is my guarantee. Yeah,

942
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 2: double double this up.

943
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: Or you completely forget about it for like five more

944
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: weeks until in the middle of the show, like, oh

945
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 3: I haven't done a rain Maker? Is that you still

946
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: have that drop erics like one second before doing bad

947
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: job by me. I do want to just give some

948
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: props to Dak who I mentioned going into this game.

949
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 3: This might be a tough matchup for him. Oh my god,

950
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: he's ghosts. He played so well. You know, they're nine

951
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: to one in their last ten games after a loss,

952
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 3: averaging thirty three points. This is a team that bounces back.

953
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: His decision making. His passes were on point. I think

954
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: he was seven for nine on throws that were at

955
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: least ten yards down the field. A lot of these

956
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: were right in the bucket. And I know the Patriots

957
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: are down three or four of their top cornerbacks, but

958
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: they were great throws. Gallup's been playing much better these

959
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: last couple weeks. A lot of Jake Ferguson is a

960
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 3: real tight and they have a lot of positives.

961
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 5: So they had that one bad game, but a lot

962
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 5: of positives.

963
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: For deck the Cowboys next Sunday Night, forty nine Ers Week.

964
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 5: New Game of the Year, New Game of the Year.

965
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 7: Well, so you have to go, you have to go go.

966
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: Toe to toe with the Niners, and like, you can't

967
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: have another flat performance.

968
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: Well, I believe it, talk about it. I know you.

969
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: I know you believe in them, and like I, I

970
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 4: I have fair historical reason to be suspicious that they'll

971
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: win twelve games and then go flat again.

972
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: That's the past. This is now.

973
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 7: It's literally a week ago.

974
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: They look they're not gonna go They're not gonna go seventeen,

975
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: and oh.

976
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 4: Every team's gonna have you just I we'll see, we'll see.

977
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: So now you're out on the Cowboy I thought you

978
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: were in this year.

979
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 7: No, oh okay, I'm in on the Niners.

980
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: But it's like, I like what happened last week kind

981
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: of reconfirmed just suspicions about Dallas.

982
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: It's an NFL, it's an NFL game, and today's happened

983
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: did that?

984
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 7: I I love what they did today.

985
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 4: It's like things happen. I trust them to do it

986
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: about twelve times. Then January will come.

987
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: I'll just say this where nobody's underdog?

988
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: Damn right, Zaddie and I see you bones fossil little trick,

989
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: two point conversion.

990
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn doing his thing. What a staff, What a team.

991
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: They were up twenty eight three at half time, and

992
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 3: dan Quinn was like, not today, not this time.

993
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 4: Team of eighten the Cowboys smart, you're gonna probably get

994
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 4: super Bowl two weeks of Super Bowl nonsense with them

995
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: if if it goes your way, so that'll be enough

996
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 4: for me.

997
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 5: It would be great.

998
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: And that was the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. Let's

999
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: go places learn more at toyota dot com. Slash Grand Highlander.

1000
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: All Right, you know who might not be playing in

1001
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl this year?

1002
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: The Bengals. Things are going bad. Let's head to Nashville.

1003
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: Tannehill under center.

1004
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: You handle that well? That was a very humbly what

1005
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: can you do? And that it's hard to be more

1006
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 3: wrong about anything than I was.

1007
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: Hell, God, Dad, Titan Grace. That's the word.

1008
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 9: Henry, I should say, is the man who rolls it

1009
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 9: through all that food.

1010
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 7: But just freak me out.

1011
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 5: Cincinnati was more lost than me.

1012
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: Whoa my keep again? More Grace owned it turned it

1013
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: into beauty. That's magic. Titans Radio, the Titans Listen. There

1014
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 2: are teams that are difficult to figure out in this league,

1015
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: many of them. Actually, The Titans have been all over

1016
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: the map so far. And this week, this Sunday, it

1017
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 2: was the best version of the Titans. Ryan Tannehill throws

1018
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: for two forty and a touchdown. Dereck Henry looks like

1019
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: Dereck Henry again, even with that jump past TD throw,

1020
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: which I love.

1021
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: And they trounced the Bengals twenty seven to three in Nashville.

1022
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: Quite a performance for Tennessee all the way around. They

1023
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: only had ninety four yards of offense last week against Cleveland,

1024
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 2: and they scored twenty seven straight points in this game.

1025
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: Mark And like, I think it's it's a credit to Tennessee.

1026
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: But that's not what people and I know are Buddy

1027
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: Grave Digger and Titans fans are gonna say.

1028
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: Everybody should be focusing.

1029
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: On what the Titans can do when they are, you know,

1030
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 2: in their bag. But everyone is obviously going to focus

1031
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 2: on Cincinnati being completely lost at sea on both sides,

1032
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: of the ball in this game, but especially on offense,

1033
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: where once again you had a limited Burrow unable to

1034
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 2: do anything in this offense going nowhere fast.

1035
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 4: Two things are happening because Grave Digger and Titans fans

1036
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 4: are correct because as hot and cold as they are

1037
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: when they're hot, and they appear under the mic Rabel

1038
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: leadership the way that they have in the past, I

1039
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: watched a team that was like more physical than Cincinnati,

1040
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 4: that beat them up all over the place, that nullified

1041
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 4: their pass rush when they have a weak offensive line.

1042
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, did they win? Henry threw that lob?

1043
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 4: Did that not come after a timeout where like they

1044
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 4: saw Henry lined up in a direct snap situation on

1045
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 4: the Playboff Course, they go back and they kind of

1046
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 4: collect themselves and then Henry just throws the snout.

1047
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 7: He swears on the next play.

1048
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: It was very vrable and I'll give him credit, and

1049
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: I'll give Tim Kelly credit there o. C who they had,

1050
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: they cooked up some good stuff in this game where

1051
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: they head to the goal line and it's Jeffrey Simmons,

1052
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: a tickle monster serving as the up back with Derrick

1053
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: Henry back, and he's like holy s A and they

1054
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: and they call time out and then you know what

1055
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: Rabel does. It sends the same setup on the field,

1056
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 2: They run the same play and they're like, we don't

1057
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: care about you being able to recalibrate yourselves.

1058
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: You're still not going to stop this, and they did not.

1059
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: And that It's like Louis and Arumo has been a

1060
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 4: bright spot when they when they've tried to get through

1061
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: these games, and I think he's a great coordinator, but

1062
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 4: coaching in general with the Bengals, to have this last

1063
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 4: year's ugly start, this year's start, it certainly ties to

1064
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: the body of Joe Burrow. He's struggling. He took us

1065
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 4: some terrible hits in this game today and at one

1066
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: point I saw him kind of coming off to the

1067
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 4: sideline and testing his arm elbow. He got just it's you.

1068
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 4: You're not going to get out of this if your

1069
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 4: quarterback's not healthy. And it's not the only problem on

1070
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 4: this team right now.

1071
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: Right That's the thing that gets me and why I

1072
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: wasn't over the moon about the Monday night victory. That

1073
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: was a nice night. It was like a championship effort

1074
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: to get through that gutty, But in this game, they

1075
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 3: got almost doubled up in total yardage four hundred to

1076
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 3: two eleven. They didn't have a single play over seventeen

1077
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: yards on offense. That's been consistent. Their offense has been

1078
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 3: bad all four games, including against the Rams, one of

1079
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 3: the most defensive challenge teams in the league, and they've

1080
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 3: struggled in that game. And it's mostly about Burrow, but

1081
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: the offensive line has not looked good, and they didn't

1082
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: look good when Burrow was moving a little better the

1083
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 3: first couple of weeks.

1084
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 5: So there's a lot going on with this team.

1085
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean I've said it on Thursday.

1086
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: Still feel this way, and you can now say, well,

1087
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: they don't have this ability to do this.

1088
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: Got to sit down the quarterback this.

1089
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 2: I know you're one in three and you're probably under

1090
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: the belief if we sit the quarterback down, our season's over.

1091
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: But you can't keep sending him out like this. In

1092
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 2: addition to it being just sad to watch, it's ineffective

1093
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: and move Okay, no he can't. He's not moving at all.

1094
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: Everything again is out of the shotgun. There is, so

1095
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: everything is out of his hands immediately, and Tennessee.

1096
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: Just like we thought was gonna be a pro.

1097
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: It was a problem because the offensive line was getting

1098
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: beat and once that pass rusher was on top of him,

1099
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: he's taken some nasty shots.

1100
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 5: So you could.

1101
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 2: Survive on Monday Night with that game plan against a

1102
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: lesser team or a lesser defense, But in this game,

1103
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: that's a taste of what's going to continue to happen

1104
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 2: until he gets hurt and he's either going to pop

1105
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: the calf again or it's gonna be a different injury

1106
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: like we saw almost happen in this game, and who

1107
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: knows how he's gonna feel when he wakes up. So

1108
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: I think it's high pass time that you need to

1109
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 2: sit this guy down. Your season's already on the ropes.

1110
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: You kind of stop pretending if you're Zach Taylor. And

1111
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: I think Zach Taylor deserves blame for this as well,

1112
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 2: because you're not seeing and a lot of Bengals fans

1113
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: are pointing to Taylor is the number one problem.

1114
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 3: Oh, I got some spice Rack text to read off.

1115
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: I still think that's understandable, But it's crazy to me

1116
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: that people don't just say, well, Joe Burrow is forty

1117
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: percent or thirty percent. How do you not say that's

1118
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 2: the problem. You could say it's the play caller, and

1119
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: maybe there is some route here where they call a

1120
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: different type of game that makes them more effective. I

1121
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: just don't see it with at quarterback. I don't think

1122
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: there is a path to competency on offense with the

1123
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 2: way this guy is.

1124
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 4: They can't dominate people on the ground the way that

1125
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 4: they were a couple of seasons ago. Alongside his play,

1126
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: t Higgins gets lost to cracked ribs.

1127
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 7: I think it is.

1128
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like the house is starting to burn

1129
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 4: around you, and it's like the whole AFC North is

1130
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 4: a bit of a shamble save for one team right now.

1131
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 3: Right meanwhile the AFC South, and we'll get to I

1132
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 3: guess the last team here, but I think do we

1133
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: have a four way tie at two and two? They're

1134
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 3: all a little frisky with some some frisky wins.

1135
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 5: But yeah, spice Rack, you know what.

1136
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: Wes is great, great friend who is a Bengals fan

1137
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 3: and is always never believed in Zach Taylor kind of

1138
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: like me, just points out opening drive eleven plays down

1139
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: to the one.

1140
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 5: What do they do?

1141
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 3: They kick an eighteen yard field goal two minutes ago

1142
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: in the first half down, seventeen, fourth and three, what

1143
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: do they do? They punt the ball into the end

1144
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: zone for a touchback. Cowardly dip Blank's.

1145
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: That's what he wrote.

1146
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 3: What he says, and he says if he had a

1147
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 3: charming personality that like the players liked, he'd under like

1148
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: he could have get behind that.

1149
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 5: But he's also kind of a zero there.

1150
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: He said, he was like, give me Steve Mariucci, at

1151
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 3: least that people just like, you know, at least like

1152
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: a like one.

1153
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure Bengalsons would be cool of mooch on this.

1154
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 5: Well, I think he meant back.

1155
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 3: I think he's saying back in the day, he's saying like, Okay,

1156
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 3: maybe you don't have like you're not the x'es and

1157
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: o's guy, but at least being the guy everyone connect

1158
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 3: Because if I.

1159
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: Fear to say, like give me three you know, foundational

1160
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: anchors of the Zach personality, I could come up with that.

1161
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 4: I mean, you went to the super Bowl, that's all

1162
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 4: I know about you.

1163
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: And on the other side, you got a guy in

1164
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: Rabel who you lose one week twenty seven three and

1165
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 3: the next week you come back win twenty seven three.

1166
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 5: That's kind of a Rabel type of team.

1167
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 4: They lost nine of their last ten and you still

1168
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 4: believed in them.

1169
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: When you have success like the Bengals have had the

1170
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: last two years, and Cincinnati fans have gotten a taste

1171
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: of that, this has been a very hard crash back

1172
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 2: to earth.

1173
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 3: Expectations are hard. That's why I think the staying at

1174
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 3: the top is so hard.

1175
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: The rain Maker knows a little bit about that. What

1176
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: do you mean, well, after what happened?

1177
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: I mean, oh, one, you know, it's one game, but

1178
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 3: not to the people that you know how to.

1179
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 5: Hey, if they're.

1180
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 3: Following my picks on game debut, they're riding to the

1181
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: top and.

1182
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: Firty place there. I don't know. If you get Kyle

1183
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: Shanahan on this sideline, tends to thing.

1184
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 7: A lot of people out there are very focused on you.

1185
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: Guys just said people are losing their house. Well, that's true,

1186
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: you're gonna get there. You know, anyone that knows you

1187
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: got a.

1188
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 4: Probably the ghosting on your rain Maker predictions.

1189
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm I didn't say anything about a house. I mentioned

1190
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: little buck tooth Susie Q. You know she'll stay that way.

1191
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: Die alogue get them in visible line at least, you know, Uh, yes,

1192
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: and you mentioned t Higgins suffered some type of rib

1193
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 2: injury and potentially I saw I think Lorio say that

1194
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 2: he is facing perhaps an absence of weeks.

1195
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: Yikes. Okay uh.

1196
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: Speaking of yikes, the Cleveland Browns had to play without

1197
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: Deshaan Watson, and they learned that that is difficult business.

1198
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 7: The shotgun three receives bunch to the right. Jackson takes

1199
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 7: the snap, steps up, throws it complete. Andrews has out

1200
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 7: of the ten five touch down Ravens and with five

1201
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 7: fifty six left to play in Cleveland, the Hayes.

1202
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: In the barn. Ooh, six minutes to play. Sand Dusky drops.

1203
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: The Hayes in the barn for the Ravens, who go

1204
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 2: to Cleveland and spank the Browns twenty eight to three, who,

1205
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: as they said, played without Deshaun Watson, who was scratched.

1206
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: He warmed up on the field before the game, but

1207
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: shoulder injury kept him out of the game. They put

1208
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: the rookie in, and the rookie and the offense, the

1209
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: rookie being Dorian Thompson Robinson unable to move the ball.

1210
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: Mark Sessler. This is a humbler for the Browns. I

1211
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: imagine who you know. We came off a week of

1212
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: talking about their defense and against a hated rival.

1213
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: A bit of a no show. It looks like in

1214
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: your own building.

1215
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 4: This game was over a lot earlier than with six

1216
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 4: minutes to go. It's the kind of loss where I

1217
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 4: can understand that you've got Dorian Thompson Robinson in their

1218
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 4: fifth round pick who looked absolutely and utterly lost against

1219
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 4: a veteran Ravens defense.

1220
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 7: Cool, I get it.

1221
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 4: I didn't expect them to necessarily even have such chance

1222
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 4: to compete. If he didn't look good, I hoped he would.

1223
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 4: It was the opposite. You don't have Nick Chubb. Like

1224
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 4: after halftime, they had ten yards rushing and they can't.

1225
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 4: They just couldn't get anything going on that side of

1226
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 4: the ball. Of the ball and the Baltimore Ravens. My

1227
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 4: one thought was like, not unlike a jet situation if

1228
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 4: you had a quarterback in there that needed a lot

1229
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 4: of support and was going to struggle. You've got this

1230
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 4: defense that we've been talking about for three plus weeks.

1231
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 4: And the Ravens started a little bit slowly, and I thought,

1232
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 4: this is Cleveland's doorway into a potential upset, and you

1233
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 4: get Watson back and you keep going.

1234
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 7: You have a bye week next week. They got walked over.

1235
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 4: I mean, it was kind of bizarre to watch because

1236
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 4: you did lose Adarius Smith for a bit, Miles Garrett

1237
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 4: got banged up late, but in general, this was the

1238
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 4: defense from these other weeks, led by Jim Schwartz. And

1239
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 4: it was Mark Andrews rumbling for thirty six yards on

1240
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 4: a catch, which at one point was their biggest play

1241
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 4: kind of early on. But then Justice Hill gets going

1242
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 4: with a fifteen yard run, a seven yard run, Melvin

1243
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 4: Gordon gashes them for a twenty two yearard run. There

1244
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 4: suddenly up with the Lamar Jackson touchdown fourteen to three,

1245
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 4: and you sense the game was over because they were

1246
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 4: getting hotter and hotter and walking through Cleveland's defense in

1247
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 4: a way that it looked like the last twenty years.

1248
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 4: And so I'm a little mystified because this is a

1249
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 4: Ravens team missing all sorts of star players and supporting cast,

1250
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 4: and they put it to Cleveland. And it isn't simply

1251
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 4: on the quarterback. The defense didn't Altimore. It was without

1252
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 4: two wide receivers.

1253
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: They're starting left tackle, they're starting right tackle, went out

1254
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 2: and Greggie the Lamarmie. This is another good one for

1255
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: the Lamarmy now because he steps in with the team

1256
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 2: on the road against a punishing defense under manned. He

1257
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: scores four touchdowns, two on the ground, two through the air.

1258
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: And that's what a superstar quarterback.

1259
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 3: Does, just so efficient. Nineteen throws for one hundred and

1260
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: eighty six yards, so in only four incompletions. You're playing

1261
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 3: this defense that we've heard a lot about. I'm always

1262
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 3: wary of teams that are mostly about the defense in

1263
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 3: the year twenty twenty three, because I read this article once.

1264
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 5: It's always stuck with me.

1265
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 3: That by far the most predictive thing in terms of

1266
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 3: who has a good defense, it's just the schedule you played,

1267
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 3: like the correlation is so strong of just like, and

1268
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 3: it's not everything. The Browns stomped bad offensive lines more

1269
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 3: than other teams were stomping bad offensive lines. But still,

1270
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 3: by far, the best correlation to the defensive rankings are

1271
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 3: who has played the worst offenses, who's played the easiest schedule?

1272
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 3: And now they played a professional offense one missing a

1273
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: lot of players, like five starters on offense alone and

1274
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 3: four or five on defense. It was crazy how many cornerbacks,

1275
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 3: two of their their starting pass rushers. The Ravens were missing,

1276
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 3: and you have to give them a lot of credit

1277
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 3: because I think that's what twenty twenty three is about.

1278
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 3: Two is like who can win when you're missing so

1279
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 3: many players because it just seems like injuries are destroying

1280
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 3: half the teams in the league, and the Browns, for instance,

1281
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 3: at least in terms of their running game, just haven't

1282
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 3: been able to like survive that injury.

1283
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 4: Well, they weren't like they weren't built to be just

1284
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 4: around defense either. They're in that situation now because you

1285
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 4: lost maybe the running back in this league game is

1286
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 4: I guess what I'm thinking, But they were sitting ducks

1287
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 4: in this I mean, you talk about like teams you're

1288
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 4: playing in offenses, you're playing like the Ravens walked into

1289
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: a great situation today. So it's like we could go

1290
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 4: and over and flate who they are because they've been

1291
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 4: as inconsistent versus expectations on offense as Anyonoe.

1292
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 3: Three first half touchdowns and I know they got a

1293
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 3: couple extra possessions, so maybe that is the difference.

1294
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 5: But three on.

1295
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: Nine, like nine drives under ten yards, It just and

1296
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 4: they looked like it, and there were massive turnovers, and

1297
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 4: you know dtr is like lost on the field out

1298
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 4: there and like whipping like they were having them throw

1299
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 4: these crazy deep passes. And then you got like who's

1300
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 4: helping them? You got Elije more like doing this one

1301
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 4: play that I think is the worst play I've seen

1302
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 4: all season where he takes an end around and instead

1303
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 4: of realizing it's a loss, like continues to figure eight

1304
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 4: backwards and takes a twenty yard loss. And it's like,

1305
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 4: that's not how you help a fifth round rookie quarterback

1306
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 4: that found out minutes before the game he was going

1307
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 4: to start.

1308
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: Is it weird that?

1309
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: So the Browns they had at last drive obviously where

1310
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: it didn't mean anything. They picked up fifty three yards

1311
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 2: the eight one hundred and thirteen yards going into that

1312
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: last drive. It's just me or we're seeing this every

1313
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: week with multiple Like there's just like a lot of

1314
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: offenses that are totally no showing throughout the league. Maybe

1315
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: it's maybe it's just how I feel it rather than reality.

1316
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 4: I mean, you're feeling it a lot with your offense, right,

1317
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 4: But but I would say in general, every week, cover

1318
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 4: three of these two or three of these early games

1319
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 4: in the late ones, like how many haves and we're

1320
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 4: like a veteran that you trust it has like forty

1321
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 4: seven yards pass or.

1322
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: Like yeah, a team xas ninety eight yards heading into

1323
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: their final possessions just like.

1324
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: Hmm, it's woodshad uh woodhead sign week talking about woods

1325
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 3: shed Week, bomb drops, Sunday.

1326
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 7: Four four, Part four, all fourth week. All of that happened.

1327
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 4: They've been happening on a weekly basis. If you look

1328
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 4: all of.

1329
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 3: That happened and you know, yes, the Ravens have quietly

1330
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 3: had one of the best first quarters in the NFL,

1331
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: not just because they're three and one, okay, but because

1332
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: they get this division win. Here, what are they in

1333
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 3: the Have they won a couple of division games?

1334
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: Haven't they?

1335
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 5: Right now?

1336
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 3: Because they beat the Bengals, So they're there's two and

1337
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 3: now in the division. The Bengals are a mess. The

1338
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 3: Browns will see the Steelers are a mess. It's been

1339
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 3: a nice you know that division looked nice going into

1340
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 3: the Suitabul start.

1341
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean other than the the injuries, which obviously

1342
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: to the running back position and the wide receiver.

1343
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 5: Here's the thing they're getting most of those guys back.

1344
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: Yes, we'll not be fun.

1345
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 5: No not JK.

1346
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: Dobbins.

1347
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: And we'll see where Miles Garrett is at Mark. He

1348
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: had a boot on after this game.

1349
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 4: He took a he wrapped up lamar on a play

1350
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 4: and I was surprised they showed the replay more than

1351
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 4: once because I was like, Oh, I think Lyles Garrett's

1352
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 4: out for the year and like and he's walking around

1353
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,959
Speaker 4: because a foot injury apparently. But I'm with you, Greg,

1354
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 4: like I think that you the Ravens are still a

1355
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 4: team in progress. But the other three teams have like

1356
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,479
Speaker 4: glowing red flags right.

1357
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: Now, also also glowing No, that's terrible. Did Ginger man?

1358
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: Uh No?

1359
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 2: David and Jok who set his face on fire with

1360
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: a fire pit this weekend, which is wild because I've

1361
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: done things like that in the past.

1362
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: When you got that, you got the shut up, Greg.

1363
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: We're not taking it out of the show, Greg and

1364
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: a panic trying to get.

1365
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 3: Our not I'm just I'm just reacting, honestly in the

1366
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 3: moment where I've never said we would.

1367
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. You turn that propane tank on and

1368
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: you're using the starter. The starter never works. So I'll

1369
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 2: tell you what I juke. I probably did went to

1370
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: get the the lighter thing, yeah, the little handle thing

1371
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: yet but meanwhile the propane gas has been rumbling sure

1372
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: for you know, Greg get upwards of sixty seconds perhaps,

1373
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: and then when it finally lights, it's it's like Oppenheimer.

1374
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 5: Well he owned it.

1375
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 3: I love that he showed up to the stadium with

1376
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,439
Speaker 3: a mask on and he ends up leading the team

1377
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 3: with six catches in forty six yards.

1378
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: So you know I left that and showed up Mark.

1379
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 4: He's I mean I it was a gutsy performance, all

1380
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 4: things considered.

1381
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: I've always liked that in Joco. I don't know why.

1382
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: So get well soon, son? All right, here we go, son?

1383
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: What uh?

1384
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: Let us move on two London? Shall we go to London.

1385
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: Let's get on the plane and go to London.

1386
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 15: Falcon on the move here how gear the running back

1387
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 15: straight drop netball.

1388
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 9: Can pick off day quiet fifty forty five forty there's

1389
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 9: along the.

1390
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: Touch taxon pick.

1391
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: Six for Darius.

1392
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 2: Williams, God Save the King remix.

1393
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: Key Change? Is this the song?

1394
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 7: Remix Queen?

1395
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: I don't think we have the rights? Is this the song?

1396
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 3: I didn't think so, but I but it's British Yeah, No,

1397
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 3: it's not about is.

1398
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 8: This this is what I've been using for our London stuff?

1399
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 7: But which is that?

1400
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 3: But now we're getting know Yes, yeah, we're just a

1401
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 3: bunch of dumb American We don't know the long version.

1402
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 7: We don't claim to know.

1403
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: You know what, how about this England little radio edit

1404
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 2: from the National Anthem.

1405
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: Then we'll see you in a couple of weeks and

1406
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it personal. Frank Franzie with the call.

1407
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: Who Darius Williams.

1408
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 2: With the pick six one of several bad throws from

1409
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 2: Desmond Ritter who struggles continued as the Jaguars cruise to

1410
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 2: a twenty three to seven win in their adopted hometown

1411
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: secondary hometown of London, England.

1412
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: So that game is at Wembley's.

1413
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: Dating will be at the Hot tadi in a couple

1414
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: of weeks and we can't wait. Calvin Ridley also had

1415
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: a touchdown in this game and his I guess quasi

1416
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 2: revenge game against the Falcons and Greg, we'll start with

1417
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 2: the Jaguars here, kind of a tough team to figure

1418
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: out this season. I'm not watching this game and my

1419
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: takeaway is, Wow, Jacksonville is they're a team that really

1420
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: takes seriously in the AFC right now, But they took

1421
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 2: care of business here against offense in Atlanta that just

1422
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: doesn't have it together right now.

1423
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 3: No, it was a survive in advance game that started

1424
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 3: off really promising for the Jaguars, and I like that

1425
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 3: about it.

1426
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 5: The first three drives.

1427
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 3: They were ahead one hundred and forty six to eleven

1428
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 3: yards after the first three drives, and then you started

1429
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 3: to see the Jags offense that we've seen the rest

1430
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 3: of the year, which is really stuck in mud and

1431
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 3: jet and Lawrence getting rid of the ball too quickly

1432
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 3: because they don't really trust the offensive line. His average

1433
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: up of target is at the very bottom of the league,

1434
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 3: but he's been playing well. They really made an effort

1435
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 3: to de emphasize Calvin Ridley and to emphasize Christian Kirk

1436
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 3: and Evan Ingram. Twenty targets for those two early and

1437
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 3: often only two for Ridley. They got the touchdown on

1438
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 3: a busted coverage and Ridley was wide open for that touchdown.

1439
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 3: They had almost no big plays other than that, and

1440
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 3: so I'm still a little concerned about their offense. But

1441
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 3: in terms of a survive in advance moment, I do

1442
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 3: think their defense has looked better than I expected this season. Overall,

1443
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 3: it's definitely a good run defense. And if you're a

1444
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 3: good run defense, the Falcons don't have anything to do

1445
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 3: because they can't do anything. And even Bijon got off,

1446
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 3: I mean, b Seon, why did he go for one

1447
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty seven yards with scrimmage?

1448
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 5: And even then it's like the Falcons couldn't do anything.

1449
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 7: A lot of that came too late.

1450
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 4: I mean, like I closely watched the beginning of this

1451
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 4: game and started to lose hope with each drive. They

1452
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 4: have a nine yard three and out the Falcons, they

1453
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 4: have a one yard three and out, They have a

1454
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 4: six play drive that goes six yards. The terrible pick

1455
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 4: six rider comes back from that, like who are you?

1456
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: Does next play?

1457
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 7: Next play? Another pick?

1458
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 4: And it's like, we don't need to focus on the

1459
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 4: on the ground game entirely if you're a defense, if

1460
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 4: this team is going to just completely implode while Jacksonville,

1461
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 4: because I like, kind of I'm not that impressed with

1462
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 4: Jacksonville's offense this year compared to like what they were

1463
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 4: towards down the stretch last year. I do think that

1464
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 4: Lawrence is not the reason for that. Uh, but the

1465
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 4: Falcons doing this are not going to beat anyone, and like,

1466
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 4: like you know, I mean early on in the season,

1467
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 4: watching what they could do on the ground, I kind

1468
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 4: of thought, like the lack of like faith through.

1469
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 7: Ritter in the air.

1470
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 4: You can get by, you can beat up some teams

1471
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 4: and do it in an old school way, and it's

1472
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 4: like you can't hide them.

1473
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 7: You can't hide them.

1474
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: It's worse than I ever imagine.

1475
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 2: We mentioned so far with Pittsburgh's offense, like trying to

1476
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: run a nineteen ninety one was it Pittsburgh New England,

1477
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 2: New England's offense, Like that's the thing.

1478
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: You can't really do it.

1479
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 2: You can't just say just give it to Bijon and

1480
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: give it to Algier and then defense gets stopped.

1481
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: You can't hide a quarterback.

1482
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: And I think Arthur Smith is I think he knows it,

1483
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: but he's doing that thing that head coaches do where

1484
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,919
Speaker 2: everyone else knows it, and he probably knows it too,

1485
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 2: but the words he's choosing to use with the media

1486
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: make you feel like he doesn't know it. And even

1487
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: if he does know it, it's not like a good

1488
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 2: look because he's letting people think that he doesn't know it.

1489
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 2: Let's listen to Arthur Smith on his thoughts on the

1490
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: offense and whether he has the right players in place

1491
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 2: to succeed.

1492
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: They're asking about the quarterback.

1493
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 18: Everybody's gonna be frustrated after a loss. But when you

1494
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 18: have the right guys in the right mindset that I understand, like, hey,

1495
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 18: let's not let them get early momentum. You know, make

1496
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 18: the play on the sack, don't let a bus the coverage.

1497
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 18: You know, gotta leak out uncover. You know, those are

1498
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 18: things that you look at in reality. I mean, I think,

1499
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 18: if you've got the wrong guys, it's easy to splinter

1500
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 18: and ride the roller coaster.

1501
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: But we got the right guys in there.

1502
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 4: And he sounds defeated to me in that situation. But

1503
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 4: you have Taylor Heinekey.

1504
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. And this is the other thing

1505
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 2: he did that got it. Because I have not been

1506
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 2: an Arthur Smith fan this year either. I just don't

1507
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: like the way this offense is being run. And at halftime,

1508
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 2: you know, he comes out and does you know, talks

1509
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 2: to CBS or wherever the game was played. Who was

1510
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 2: were they on ESPN? No, ESPN plus, ESPN plus and

1511
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: he makes a point, we're not even thinking about making

1512
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 2: a change, And Greg, I saw your tweet and I

1513
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: agreed with it one hundred percent. That was a perfect

1514
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 2: Taylor Heinekey spot to go in there see if he

1515
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: can get hot and go steal a game because Jacksonville

1516
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: was kind of asking to give it away.

1517
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 3: It felt like right, And to Ritter's credit, he played

1518
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 3: better for a minute coming out a halftime. They had

1519
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 3: the touchdown Drave right out a halftime, and then they

1520
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 3: drove down the field, but then the inconsistencies popped up

1521
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 3: and it's like he doesn't want to hurt Ridder's confidence,

1522
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 3: but Ridder's play is hurting Ridder's confidence. Ritter throwing up

1523
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 3: a moon ball to open maccollins that could have been

1524
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 3: in a third interception. He really could have had two more,

1525
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 3: and then going over to the sideline and trying to

1526
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 3: high five maccollins for some reason, and Matt Collins like

1527
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 3: stands up in his face.

1528
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 5: Is like the camera cut away.

1529
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 3: I wish they had seen the rest of that interaction

1530
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 3: because it's like the players know he is not playing confident.

1531
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 3: The one thing he did last year was avoid big mistakes.

1532
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 3: And this year it's all big mistakes, but with no

1533
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 3: playmaking to make up for it, their defense has been better.

1534
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 3: Bijon has been as advertised, he was electric in this game.

1535
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 3: Made a lot of great plays throughout, but it's like

1536
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 3: a running back's only gott to do so much.

1537
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 4: Josh Allen for the Jaguars was massive in this I mean,

1538
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 4: I feel like he's a player that sort of comes

1539
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 4: and goes, but he completely destroyed Atlanta's offense. And I

1540
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 4: don't know, I don't know what you do. What do

1541
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 4: you say to your fan base, but especially to your

1542
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 4: own locker room. We're seeing this happen with a couple

1543
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 4: teams where it's like the quarterback decision making process to

1544
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 4: get you to the point where this guy's starting for

1545
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 4: you creates a total fractured locker room. Falcons players seem

1546
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 4: to be frustrated and you clearly have a guy. We

1547
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 4: don't think Taylor Huneck's perfect, but he's a bit of

1548
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 4: an adventure and when it gets going, like there's a

1549
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 4: lot to like and it's like this is like, I

1550
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 4: think I agree with Arthur Smith. The one thing, there

1551
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 4: are a lot of the right people here. This is

1552
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 4: a pretty interesting roster, but the most important piece is

1553
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 4: failing you in life.

1554
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 2: That's that's why I didn't love the quote because everyone

1555
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: knows there's a lot of gun I totally agree, and

1556
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 2: it's like, I know you're trying to hide from what

1557
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 2: the big situation here is. But he's got to be

1558
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: careful because if he if he gets stays, it's like

1559
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: in Vegas, like you made a bad bet.

1560
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: Potentially here I think it's a bad bet with Ridder.

1561
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 2: If you stay with this bad bet and you double down,

1562
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:31,799
Speaker 2: you're gonna get cleaned out and guess.

1563
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: What, You're gonna lose your job. Well, he's just get

1564
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: you wouldn't realize reality with Ridder.

1565
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 2: And I know it's still only week four, but there's

1566
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 2: so much evidence here that this guy is not the guy.

1567
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 3: Or Yeah, he's just thinking when is the right time

1568
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 3: to do this? He didn't think it was halftime. Hearing

1569
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 3: the way his voice sounded yeah, actually made me think like, oh,

1570
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 3: maybe maybe it would happen to like, because who knows

1571
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 3: Ridder is capable. I think of playing better at some

1572
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 3: point than this. Maybe it's after getting benched for Heineke

1573
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 3: for a little while. You are two and two in

1574
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 3: a bad division, So I get it. It's still early,

1575
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 3: but it's getting it just it's just everyone.

1576
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: Can see it, all right, let's uh.

1577
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 3: We got to mention at least shout out to the

1578
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 3: Toy Story broadcast, who made my son Walker as happy

1579
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 3: as I think I've ever seen him watching anything.

1580
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 5: He could not have really loved it more.

1581
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 3: I think kids love watching video games in general, like

1582
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 3: they just like watching two different people play Madden, and

1583
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,959
Speaker 3: so I think this was kind of like that, except

1584
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 3: it was like an actual game that was going on.

1585
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 3: And I know there were some some little airs like

1586
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 3: the first touchdown they dropped it on the Toy Story

1587
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 3: broadcast or whatever, but the announcer said that he caught it.

1588
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 3: But I was sort of blown away in the little

1589
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 3: that I watched it, and more importantly, like he was

1590
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 3: like a kid on Christmas. And I was texted with

1591
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 3: a couple other parents that enjoyed it as well, so like,

1592
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 3: why not try it?

1593
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 5: It's fun?

1594
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,919
Speaker 4: So I watched that really closely. It was not for adults,

1595
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 4: well no, So my thing is if if I'm hearing

1596
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 4: the children are enjoying it, like okay, case closed. There

1597
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 4: were some technical difficulties but that it was the trial

1598
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 4: run essentially with it. There was a moment that I

1599
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 4: thought was interesting. They had like this claw that was

1600
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 4: basically dropping the football down. Yeah, like in spots. Yeah,

1601
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 4: they grabbed, Like at one point they grabbed a player

1602
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 4: and like yanked him away.

1603
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 7: There was some hanky stuff going on.

1604
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 4: I think there's a great drinking game attached to this

1605
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 4: because they mentioned Andy's room like four or five times

1606
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 4: in the first room that they kept like making it

1607
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 4: clear for people walking by, We're in Andy's room playing

1608
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 4: this game in his room.

1609
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 7: The kid from toy story that was the stand.

1610
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and so like they I think they said

1611
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 4: Andy's room by the time I left to come here

1612
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 4: in the third mid third quarter, about one hundred and

1613
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 4: seventy five times.

1614
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: Well, yes, I kept seeing I saw one tweet that

1615
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 3: was like, why are they explaining how to get first

1616
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 3: down to me? Like, I'm a six year old. It's

1617
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 3: for six year olds. Stop watching the adults either don't

1618
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 3: lose the game.

1619
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 2: By the way, I learned the game as well from

1620
01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 2: the game. Yeah, I think that's also people counterpoint. Kids

1621
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: have terrible taste. I mean, have you ever watched Blippy?

1622
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 2: That guy's a terrorist.

1623
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 7: It's a strong counter heard this.

1624
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 2: I have you ever watched like Mike my son Jack

1625
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 2: when he was little, We just watch garbage trucks like

1626
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: doing their round. Oh we had that too, like for

1627
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,480
Speaker 2: an hour. Yeah, it's terrible programming.

1628
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: And so they're gonna kids are gonna say, I like this,

1629
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean it's any good. I like Connor

1630
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: Orr wrote a hit piece for a s I he did.

1631
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: I love where.

1632
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 2: Connor war his heads at right now as a as

1633
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: a writer and as a as a journalist, because he

1634
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: picks and chooses his hot takes and they come in

1635
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: blue Flame, Blue Flame. He came after a big Pixar

1636
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 2: and you gotta it's commendable.

1637
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: Greg.

1638
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 3: You may not agree with him, I definitely don't. One

1639
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 3: of his worst takes like who is it hurting? It's like,

1640
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 3: what could what is the downside to any of this?

1641
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 3: It's just like a second screen on an ESPN Plus game.

1642
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 4: Well it was a bit of a tougher game to

1643
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 4: find it's on ESPN Plus that not every single person piece.

1644
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:01,879
Speaker 5: Or that's the whole point.

1645
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 4: But that's why I think some people were complaining like

1646
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 4: they have.

1647
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 3: But if you have ESPN plus you have that game

1648
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 3: if you can watch the regular game, watch the game.

1649
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 5: If you have it.

1650
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, like not Everyone's but toy.

1651
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 5: Story is not available unless you have that.

1652
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: It is a sick, cruel world. When Blippy is a millionaire.

1653
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 5: I don't even know. I've never heard of Blippy and

1654
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 5: I gotta I'm so happy.

1655
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 4: Well from another angle, Creating insanely bizarre content for children

1656
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 4: that will get them obsessed and addicted as an adult

1657
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:29,799
Speaker 4: is a smart move.

1658
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 2: A twisted, twisted myth of a man. All right, let's uh,

1659
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: by the way, the Jaguar stay in London. They'll be

1660
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: playing at the Hot Toddy against the Bills next week.

1661
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 2: Let's head to the Big Bowl bottom now.

1662
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 11: Now the forty nine ers up twenty one to sixteen.

1663
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:49,520
Speaker 1: Look for a two score lead. McCaffrey's already got three touchdowns.

1664
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 5: They put him into a pistol behind Perty. This guy

1665
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 5: he's always right, three or left.

1666
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 3: They're giving a McCaffrey off the left side.

1667
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 5: One, two, three, four touchdown.

1668
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 12: See see that vision again, Pop, I'm telling you because

1669
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 12: they had a defender in the backfield and cmc puts

1670
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 12: his right foot in the ground and just pop.

1671
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: To the edge.

1672
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: My goodness, Christian McCaffrey, I know they haven't won in

1673
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 2: a while, the Niners, the big one.

1674
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: Well, I am hot, damn.

1675
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm envious of that fan base because it feels like

1676
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: there's a lot of fun to root for this team,

1677
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 2: who once again, like when we did the Thursday night

1678
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 2: recap mark.

1679
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 1: With their Giants game, it's like they don't even.

1680
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: Really need to step on the accelerator to take care

1681
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 2: of business against a lot of these teams in the league,

1682
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 2: just like they did on Sunday thirty five, sixteen over

1683
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, who did their best to hang around in

1684
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 2: this game, but ultimately it really was no contest. Brock

1685
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: Purty twenty of twenty one with a touchdown passing and

1686
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: a rushing TD and yes, Christian McCaffrey, who you may

1687
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 2: have passed on on and your fantasy Drea, I think

1688
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 2: I did maybe twice, had four touchdowns in this game

1689
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 2: and is really in peak form.

1690
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: Mark the Niners. They're in control right now.

1691
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 4: They It just it looks so easy, And I know

1692
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 4: that's sort of a staple of the Shanahan offense from

1693
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 4: like the quarterback angle, that you've got these guys running

1694
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 4: wide open they're perfectly put together on offense from a

1695
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 4: skill position angle, we know that, but you have players

1696
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 4: playing at the very best because I think to your

1697
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 4: point about the fantasy Christian McCaffrey thing is like when

1698
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 4: he's there, he's available, he's great, and he's there for

1699
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 4: five games and then he's gone for it's like you

1700
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 4: know what you're gonna get.

1701
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 7: He's stayed healthy with them. They use them all over

1702
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:42,719
Speaker 7: the place.

1703
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 4: It's the four touchdowns, it's twenty seven touches for one

1704
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy seven yards. He's scored in thirteen straight

1705
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 4: games for them, which snapped a.

1706
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 7: Jerry Rice record.

1707
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 4: You've got Brandon Au getting better and better and better

1708
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 4: every week, like Deebo Samuel.

1709
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 3: He's a little banged up superstar. Some people are saying,

1710
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 3: heading I think he has a chance.

1711
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 4: Well, I'd get on that train because I think the

1712
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 4: chance is occurring right now. I mean his one hundred

1713
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 4: and forty eight yards off six catches are like, I mean,

1714
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 4: it's just like he can do everything. He's such an

1715
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:17,799
Speaker 4: incredible receiver, so strong and like also it's Brock Party making.

1716
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 4: I think we look at Brock Party sometimes you're like, well,

1717
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 4: he's accurate, but is he special? Does he have special

1718
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 4: arm talent? Like he made some really special throws in

1719
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 4: this game, really accurate and like I he opened thirteen

1720
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 4: for thirteen, which which makes sense if you go twenty

1721
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 4: for twenty one, but that also snapped like to a

1722
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 4: game in the game consecutive completion streak that Steve Young said.

1723
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 4: It's like these old heroes are being vested in a

1724
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 4: more modern day offense and type situation by this star

1725
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 4: riddled offense. And it's like the Cardinals, honestly, like mate,

1726
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 4: that four touchdowns in the fourth touchdown by McCaffrey mattered

1727
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 4: because the score looks not as close as it was

1728
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 4: for part of this It was another performance for the Cardinals.

1729
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 4: Kind of Cardinals, and they're well coached and like you

1730
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 4: got these guys wondering why are they still hanging around

1731
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 4: in this game. Michael Wilson their rookie. I thought he

1732
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 4: looks great. He's third, third round out of Stamford, Like

1733
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 4: he's someone they have Josh Dobbs for the fact that

1734
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 4: he's not the future, there probably is like a top

1735
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 4: two or three backup for the next as many amount

1736
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 4: of years. With the way he's played over the last

1737
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 4: couple of weeks, so they kind of gave him a

1738
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 4: test on defense a little bit. But the Niners offense,

1739
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 4: like at every turn, keep breaking you, and it keeps

1740
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 4: happening with different people each time. And you've got a

1741
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 4: quarterback that's come out of nowhere half a season ago

1742
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 4: and looks incredible.

1743
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 5: I mean, they only got to five third downs to

1744
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 5: forty nine ers.

1745
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: That's just so easy.

1746
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 3: They had thirty first downs, and the Cardinals offense, to

1747
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 3: your point, Gate gave him everything they could handle. It's

1748
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 3: twenty one to sixteen. Going to the fourth. Part of

1749
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 3: the reason it's close, it is because these were long

1750
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 3: drives that the Cardinals are going on. Like their average

1751
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 3: per play was pretty solid. They could run the ball

1752
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 3: like their offense is risky. But that's why the forty

1753
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 3: nine ers have been the best team so far is

1754
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 3: one of their sides can dominate in a given week

1755
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 3: or in a given quarter. Any player on either side

1756
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 3: could dominate. It doesn't need to be the same side

1757
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 3: every time. Brock Purdy I think played poorly against the Giants.

1758
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 3: Definitely not well like I would say that was a

1759
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 3: he got away with some throat It was like a

1760
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 3: c game and they walked away with it. But then

1761
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 3: he could come out and play an a game and

1762
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 3: the offense walks away with it.

1763
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think this tells the story, and we

1764
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 2: talked about it. I think we use the analogy to

1765
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 2: swingers about the bear that has these claws in the

1766
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 2: teeth and he doesn't always knowing to use him or

1767
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 2: he doesn't need to use him. But then when they

1768
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 2: decide the bear decides to use the claws, bad things

1769
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 2: happen to the bunny.

1770
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: Once the and credit to the Cardinals.

1771
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 2: Eleven plays ninety nine ninety nine yards, Josh Dobbs leads them,

1772
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, it's twenty one to sixteen,

1773
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 2: as we said, and the Niners don't panic.

1774
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: They get the ball back.

1775
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 2: They go eight for seventy five boom, touchdown twenty eight

1776
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: to sixteen.

1777
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: Then they force a punt.

1778
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 2: Then they go back down the field fourteen for seventy

1779
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: seven boom, and it's thirty five sixteen.

1780
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: Good night, nurse.

1781
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like if you if you decide

1782
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: to bow up and challenge them, good for you, and

1783
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: it shows that you're a team of the backbone. But

1784
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 2: when they decide to get serious against these middle tier

1785
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 2: teams in below, it's just no contest. And that's one

1786
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 2: of the signs of a truly great team. And I

1787
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 2: cannot wait to see them against another in my opinion,

1788
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 2: great team Cowboys.

1789
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 4: Now I'm with you because it's like to your point

1790
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 4: of like, yeah, they were challenged score wise at one

1791
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 4: point in this, but their drive chart and these are

1792
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 4: long drives. The Niners touchdown touchdown, touchdown a one play

1793
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 4: end of half situation. They're only punt then touchdown, touchdown.

1794
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 4: Game over that that does not happen that often. That

1795
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 4: is a not a lot of drives. Essentially six six drives,

1796
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:46,520
Speaker 4: and you scored touchdowns on five of them. That is outrageous.

1797
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, like Deeba Samuel, you know,

1798
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 3: barely did anything because he's playing hurt. It's like you

1799
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 3: get a one catch kittle game and you still put

1800
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 3: up five touchdowns and six drives.

1801
01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: Easy, easy, easy, Let's take a break and then finish

1802
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: it out.

1803
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,719
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1804
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,639
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1805
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1808
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1809
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1811
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1814
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: All right, we're back. Let's head across the sidewalk where the.

1815
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: Charges did battle with that Raiders and now a first

1816
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: in goal.

1817
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 3: O'Connell on a fourth and ten complete said, what a

1818
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 3: game going? Do is right?

1819
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: Throwing do his right?

1820
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 17: Intercepto a Sunday Samuel intercepts it, it slides down.

1821
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: He might have been able to take that.

1822
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 7: To the house and third change, but we'll take the interception.

1823
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 7: We'll take interception.

1824
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,560
Speaker 1: But he could have kept going absolutely.

1825
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 2: It's it's a bit of a unusual tactic to be

1826
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 2: a cornerback who says, now I'm good on the one

1827
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 2: hundred yard pick six, even though it actually would have

1828
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:22,919
Speaker 2: been helpful of the team, not even strategic.

1829
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 3: I think he thought the game. I think he thought

1830
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 3: there was like thirty seconds left. It just felt like

1831
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 3: that it was two thirty with the you.

1832
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 2: Know who's going to be really annoyed with himself tonight.

1833
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 2: That's Sante Samuel, Yeah, because that's what you live for.

1834
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: But you know what, he still did make the key

1835
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: play in the game, and that was the great Matt

1836
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 2: money Smith on the call.

1837
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: Then some other guy chimed in unnecessarily.

1838
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 2: As the Chargers get three touchdowns from Justin Herbert and yes,

1839
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 2: that huge interception and a beautiful Herbert deep ball to

1840
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 2: ice this thing, because they did need to hit a

1841
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 2: third and long after the Samuel will step out to

1842
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,560
Speaker 2: actually run out the clock. And they did, beating the

1843
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 2: Raiders twenty four seventeen, a bizarre game in which you know,

1844
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 2: only the Chargers like Khalil Mack had six sacks in

1845
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: this game and like the end of the third court

1846
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 2: one sack away from Derek Thomas and he still almost

1847
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 2: lost the game.

1848
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: And that's what the Chargers do. And yet here we are, Greg.

1849
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 3: What what what what?

1850
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 5: I can't do it live anywhere. I don't want to

1851
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 5: hear it.

1852
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 2: On the missing Mike Williams, Austin Eckler, Derwin, James am

1853
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: I missing somebody.

1854
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 3: These are Joey Bosa, Joey other arm buddy.

1855
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: I don't care.

1856
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 2: And I know Aidan O'Connell's playing in this game, not

1857
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo, but a good win for the Chargers, who

1858
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 2: are finding away two weeks in a row after finding

1859
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 2: a way to give it away in their first two weeks.

1860
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, take care of business.

1861
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 3: Game that you make interesting despite having a twenty four

1862
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 3: to seven halftime lead, because you.

1863
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:01,879
Speaker 5: Are the Chargers.

1864
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 3: But I gotta give Staley credit, I guess, for just

1865
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 3: sticking to his guns with the fourth down decision. Late

1866
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 3: in the game, they decide to go for it on

1867
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 3: fourth and one. I think it was on their own

1868
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 3: thirty four, Dan was it with three point thirty to go,

1869
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 3: and they're up by a touchdown. And it's not like

1870
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 3: last week where they're going against Kirk Cousins. They're going

1871
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 3: against Aiden O'Connell and a first down doesn't quite win

1872
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 3: the game, but it gets you pretty close to it.

1873
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:32,520
Speaker 5: And they go for fourth.

1874
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 3: Down and one again on their own thirty four, and

1875
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 3: they set up Aiden O'Connell to do it.

1876
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 5: Maybe it's Staley is playing chess.

1877
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: Definitely not he's.

1878
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 3: Letting his defense, which has gotten all this grief, be

1879
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 3: the heroes every week.

1880
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, Like this is the QB sneak.

1881
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert threw an interception in this game and he

1882
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 2: went to make a tackle and please don't do this.

1883
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: Star quarterbacks, just get out of the way.

1884
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: And he gets I think, and we'll learn more about it,

1885
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 2: but I think he gets his It's pretty gnarley.

1886
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: He gets his finger.

1887
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 2: I believed Eric Roberts, our producer, knows all about these

1888
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: gnarley finger injuries, caught in the face mask or the

1889
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 2: ear hole or something, and it does damage to his

1890
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 2: non throwing hand, maybe his middle finger or his ring finger.

1891
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 2: So to me, it was a crazy play call if

1892
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 2: you're going to go for it there and you don't

1893
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 2: have Austin Eckler and your franchise quarterback has a splint

1894
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 2: and all sorts of like gauze around one of his fingers,

1895
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 2: and he's at a shotgun to the point where you're

1896
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 2: kneeling at the end of the game at a shotgun, like,

1897
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm running a QB sneak there,

1898
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 2: if I don't have something in my bag that doesn't

1899
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 2: involve Justin Herbert with a gnarly mangled finger trying to

1900
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: get a yard, I'm not calling that play. But This

1901
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,799
Speaker 2: is the beauty of the Brandon Staley experience, the madness

1902
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: of it all.

1903
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you look back last year, I mean, there

1904
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 4: were real questions if Herbert should have been in the

1905
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 4: game after he banged up his ribs and all that business.

1906
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 4: It's like they kept him in that situation too.

1907
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 2: Let's hear from Brandon Staley said Herbert was not coming

1908
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 2: out of this game.

1909
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean, he wasn't coming out. It was one

1910
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 20: of those things where he was going back in and

1911
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 20: he has that look, I'm going back in, I'm good,

1912
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 20: and you know, again just to show that toughness to

1913
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 20: the team. We really talked about that going into this

1914
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 20: game being a division game, and he surely showed it.

1915
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 20: And when your franchise quarterback, you know, and bodies all that,

1916
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 20: you know, everyone else jumps along.

1917
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 3: He said after the game, Herbert that it was just

1918
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 3: it was but a flesh wound, little ref little uh,

1919
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,799
Speaker 3: little ref And then they were like, was it actually

1920
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 3: just a flesh woman? He was like, no, that was

1921
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 3: just using the quote.

1922
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 7: I mean, it was it.

1923
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 4: Well, it looked like it was like severe like maybe

1924
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 4: severely jammed or we don't know at this point, but

1925
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 4: like he had the splint on the finger initially, like

1926
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 4: with what was like a mummy's hand and wrapped towels,

1927
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 4: and then he came out like the next drive with

1928
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 4: the splint hanging around like a glove.

1929
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 3: And that's like a weird You're like, hey, Donald Parham,

1930
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 3: six foot seven tight end, can we borrow your glove?

1931
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 3: Like he had this strange glove that wigh too much

1932
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 3: end on it. Meanwhile, like, yeah, the Raiders starting eight

1933
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 3: o O'Connell. At least they made the right decision there.

1934
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 3: I would have been killing them if they had started

1935
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 3: Brian Hoyer. Did we see anything out of mister O'Connell.

1936
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 2: No, he looked very much like a young quarterback. And

1937
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels. I mean he had they have first and

1938
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 2: goal in the before the Samuel interception and he forces

1939
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 2: a ball that it's just a terrible pass where he

1940
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 2: didn't read the defense the way he needed to in

1941
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 2: a huge spot in the game.

1942
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 1: He's not protecting the football.

1943
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 2: So you know that I would actually like to watch

1944
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 2: kind of watch it again on game pass just to

1945
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 2: see O'Connell's performance again. But I didn't come out of

1946
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 2: it thinking and maybe this was Josh McDaniels wants to

1947
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 2: see enough where he could roll with this kid and

1948
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 2: start developing someone other than Garoppolo, but ultimately.

1949
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: He made too many mistakes for them to win a

1950
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: game on the road.

1951
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 4: This is the second week in a row, and I'm trying.

1952
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 4: I'm searching and trying to figure out beyond his coordinator

1953
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 4: pedigree under Bill Belichick with the Patriots, what makes Josh

1954
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 4: McDaniels special versus the opposite? It is special and what

1955
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 4: we saw last week crazy decision. This time around he

1956
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 4: does not challenge what would have been absolutely called a touchdown.

1957
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 4: And it's like you lost this game by a touchdown

1958
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 4: with the Devonte Adams singing.

1959
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 1: Like why not, Well, they scored, they scored on that drive.

1960
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: I know they did.

1961
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 4: I know they did, I know they did so but

1962
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,440
Speaker 4: here's the thing, Like, what is the process in that situation?

1963
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 4: Like you have to go to the number one best

1964
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 4: player on your team and say, you know you scored,

1965
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 4: I'll challenge it. Why isn't someone up in the booth

1966
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 4: saying absolutely challenges every one of us watching it knew

1967
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 4: was a touchdown, and he doesn't take the time to

1968
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 4: make the correct decision. They scored. But it's like another

1969
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 4: example of like what are we doing here?

1970
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,799
Speaker 3: And we also found out this weekend that Chandler Jones

1971
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 3: is no longer with the Raiders, which.

1972
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: Was I did not see that. I saw he got arrested.

1973
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, like this is all.

1974
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 3: A sad story and we don't know what it's going

1975
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 3: to mean for the rest of his career. But yeah,

1976
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 3: he was arrested after violating a domestic violence temporary protective

1977
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 3: order and then later on Friday night, a little bit

1978
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 3: of a news dump they cut him and just everything

1979
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 3: that you've seen through social media and stuff, if you've

1980
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:17,919
Speaker 3: ever had someone around you that suffered like a mental breakdown,

1981
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 3: which I don't know, it's consistent with that sort of behavior,

1982
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 3: and it's just it's tough to see. But his career

1983
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 3: is going to be changed, and they're going to go

1984
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 3: after his money now. So they can say that they're

1985
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 3: all praying for him, which is what they said in

1986
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 3: their statement, but it's you know, lawyers are getting involved

1987
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 3: now and they're going to try to take away his

1988
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 3: money and.

1989
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 2: It's a business, yeah, and that's sometimes it's an ugly business.

1990
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 2: And yeah, I want to give a little credit before

1991
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 2: we move on to the Raiders defense, because you held

1992
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert to one hundred and sixty seven yards passing.

1993
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 2: He hit on the big throw twenty yard throw to

1994
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: ice the game. But before that, the Chargers had at

1995
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 2: less than one hundred yards of total offense in the

1996
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 2: final two quarters of that game, which allowed the Raiders

1997
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 2: to get back into it. And if not for the interception,

1998
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 2: I think this is one of those games that was

1999
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 2: going overtime and then who knows what happens, and yet

2000
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 2: it did not.

2001
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 5: Four straight insane Chargers game down.

2002
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know, they just played a script

2003
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 3: so much like all four of their games this season

2004
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:16,759
Speaker 3: have been totally bonked.

2005
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 7: Forty four straight.

2006
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 2: I mean, they're entertaining as long as you're not a

2007
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 2: Chargers fan, because that the anxiety of it all is

2008
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 2: off the charts, all right. The Saints, uh, they were

2009
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:29,679
Speaker 2: supposed to play without Derek Carran on Sunday. Dark Carr

2010
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 2: plays with a jacked up shoulder and it did not

2011
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 2: go well for the QB or his team.

2012
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 15: Third down a goal from the five draw play draw play,

2013
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 15: dropping Baker Mayfield looking to his left, now back to

2014
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 15: his right, looking over the metal then.

2015
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 1: All that time, where's the pass rush the angel? It's

2016
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: a diving right out the goal line.

2017
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 9: It's gonna be a touchdown, Tampa Bay touchdown TAMA and Devin.

2018
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: Tompkins has the catch shot at the goal line. Love

2019
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 1: it change with the call?

2020
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:03,879
Speaker 2: W f us Baker's back, baby Oh. Three touchdown passes

2021
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 2: for the Bucks and despite yes, a surprise return for

2022
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 2: Derek Carr, the Saints offense did nothing. In Alvin Kamara's

2023
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 2: debut twenty six nine, the Bucks win on the road.

2024
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 2: Mark Baker was back in this one good Baker twenty

2025
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 2: five thirty two, two forty six. What I mean, how

2026
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 2: does car And we know Carr is a tough dude,

2027
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 2: but you gotta you gotta know when not to play.

2028
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 2: Like did he look like a guy with a sprained

2029
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 2: ac joint? Like how do you play with that and

2030
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 2: be effective?

2031
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 4: Give him like a lot of credit for for going

2032
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 4: out there, and it surprised me that he was just

2033
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 4: like you and like, uh, the whole offense looked completely unhinged.

2034
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 4: I mean, he he did look affected. It's not the

2035
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 4: same way that I watched Burrow and feel that I'm

2036
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 4: seeing the physical effect. It wasn't like he was win

2037
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 4: seen in pain left and right. But to your point,

2038
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 4: because we talked about this, were one of the weirdest

2039
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,759
Speaker 4: stats in this game is like Alvin McCarty, Alvin Kamara

2040
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 4: had thirteen catches for thirty three yards. They had nothing

2041
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 4: going on through the air.

2042
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: Hit me with another rosie. Wow, Wow what what wait?

2043
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 1: Say that sat again?

2044
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,719
Speaker 7: Thirteen catches for thirty three yards.

2045
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: That's not no. You got this professional podcast.

2046
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,480
Speaker 2: You got to get the status, right, Mark, that's actually

2047
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 2: had no like that, that is that's exactly what happened.

2048
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 4: And they like Chris alave he had one Chris Alavey

2049
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 4: had one catch for four yards.

2050
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 7: I just it was. It was a terrible performance.

2051
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 4: I give a lot of the credit though, to the

2052
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 4: Bucks defense, guys like Vitave with two sacks today, Shaq

2053
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 4: Barrett shutting down the run, Antoine Winfield had a really

2054
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 4: nice third down breakup. They kept ending drives card fifty

2055
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 4: yards at half. This like we keep seeing this every week,

2056
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 4: they're saying. And you get Baker Mayfield playing. I was

2057
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 4: trying to think, like what game has he played?

2058
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 1: Right?

2059
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 4: He looked better to me, and I can think of

2060
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 4: maybe the playoff win over the Steelers with Cleve when

2061
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 4: a couple of his early performances, like in twenty eighteen

2062
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 4: when he was like no one knew that Rams game last,

2063
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 4: there's that that was like, so he'll do this when

2064
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 4: he's good. He's like seeing the field really well and

2065
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 4: like that play right there, it's like he could have

2066
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 4: forced to throw earlier. He had a lot of time

2067
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 4: to throw in the replay that we came in with

2068
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 4: and made a really spot on throw and I thought

2069
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 4: that he used today and he's been doing this week

2070
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 4: after week two big down, big third down conversions with

2071
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:23,799
Speaker 4: his legs.

2072
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 7: And then he had another one where he had a run.

2073
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 4: That basically set up a field goal that put them

2074
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 4: up seventeen to six and kind of separated this game.

2075
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 4: And that's when it started to end for them. And

2076
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 4: I just think, like, you know, Mike Evans left and

2077
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 4: the before that's before the third quarter with a hamstring injury.

2078
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 4: You take out the one weapon that like he's really

2079
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 4: like been in chemistry with and it didn't really seem

2080
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 4: to change much. He just found new guys and I

2081
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 4: don't know if this is a Baker you get. They're

2082
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 4: alone atop the NFC South at three and one. I

2083
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 4: don't know if I can take them for real, but

2084
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 4: they outclassed the Saints.

2085
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,679
Speaker 1: It's a great sign. This morning I was feeling pretty dangerous.

2086
01:32:56,760 --> 01:33:00,120
Speaker 2: It's a great sign that Baker had his come down

2087
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 2: to Earth game on Monday night and then it didn't spiral,

2088
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 2: and then Baker disappeared for like.

2089
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 3: Right, And it wasn't a crazy bad right, it was

2090
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 3: just it.

2091
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 2: Wasn't brutal by any stretch. And let's listen, we've seen

2092
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 2: enough that that's coming. There will be times where he

2093
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 2: does have uh funks, but maybe, just maybe he's in

2094
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 2: the right division with the right schedule where there's gonna

2095
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 2: be more good than bad this season.

2096
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 3: Well, I thought all off season that the Saints were

2097
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:27,799
Speaker 3: trying to genetically engineer the roster to win this division,

2098
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 3: like nine to eight, ten and seven, like have a

2099
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,640
Speaker 3: defense that can you know, be special enough against these offenses.

2100
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 3: But maybe, But that's what I mean. The Bucks are

2101
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 3: kind of taking that. And that's why I said at

2102
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 3: the beginning of the show, I'm always wary of the

2103
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,719
Speaker 3: defense first teams, because Saints fans were convinced this defense

2104
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 3: was special and in twenty twenty three, in the end,

2105
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 3: like your defense probably isn't that special, Like it's solid,

2106
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 3: It's gonna be solid, but it's not gonna be special enough.

2107
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 3: It's gonna come down to your offense. And their offense

2108
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 3: with Derek Carr looks a lot like their offense with

2109
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 3: Andy Dawn. In fact, it's worse in a lot of

2110
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 3: ways because of their offensive line. And I know Car's

2111
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 3: injury was a big factor here. He had three point

2112
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 3: four yards per attempt. They said it wasn't after the game,

2113
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 3: but it probably probably was. But their offensive line has

2114
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 3: been a mess all four weeks, and the passing game

2115
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 3: has been disjointed all four weeks, like before cards injury too,

2116
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 3: So I don't think you can just put it only

2117
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 3: on the Car injury.

2118
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 2: All right, Let's head to the a pair of loser

2119
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 2: goes home matches, starting with a showdown between the Vikings

2120
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 2: and Panthers and Charlotte.

2121
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 15: Two receivers left, Adam Thielen the outside receiver now joined

2122
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 15: by another, so three left and one to the right,

2123
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 15: Bryce Young facing a blitzing Harrison Smith and the ball games.

2124
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 9: Adam picked up by d Jay Wanham lost touchdown. D

2125
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 9: J Oneham's first national football League touchdown has tied the

2126
01:34:58,400 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 9: game at bir Jane.

2127
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 2: Best in the business, Paul Allen, KFA N Yeah, you know,

2128
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 2: it's a bit of a cliche in the business, but

2129
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 2: sometimes National Football.

2130
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:10,839
Speaker 1: League just hits harder than the NFL.

2131
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 2: You're right, Harrison Smith had three sacks, including that sack

2132
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 2: that's set up the scoop and score by DJ Wanham,

2133
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 2: and the Vikings overcome a slow start to beat the

2134
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 2: Panthers twenty one thirteen, their first win of the season.

2135
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: The Panthers, oh and fourth end.

2136
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:32,839
Speaker 2: My goodness, Mark Sessler, you had previously on the Thursday

2137
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 2: show locked up the Saints to take care of bag

2138
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 2: right for about twelve minutes. Very wise, you pivot out

2139
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 2: to the Vikings. I pivot out to the Vikings. The

2140
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 2: West Brothers pivot in to the Vikings, and we all

2141
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 2: go home happy. That's the big story of.

2142
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 1: This, that's right.

2143
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,599
Speaker 5: Your your lock would.

2144
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 1: Be I had a double run, I had a double win.

2145
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: I had a double win. Yeah.

2146
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 4: I mean, when you can lock up and owen three

2147
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 4: team on the road, you've got to do it. And

2148
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 4: that's what we did. And it looks really.

2149
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 2: I locked up two three teams in a way and

2150
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 2: got two dubs out of it. That's how history will

2151
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 2: remember me.

2152
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was shaky though.

2153
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 4: I was really concerned about for all of us early on,

2154
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 4: Like you got this version of Kirk Cousins and there

2155
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:15,759
Speaker 4: have been a lot of turnovers. Kurt that whole offense

2156
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 4: right out of the gate on the first drive, third

2157
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 4: and goal, bad pass, Sam Franklin jumps, the route, goes

2158
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 4: ninety nine yards for a pick six. Cousins had another

2159
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 4: bad pick later that set up a big long field

2160
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 4: goal before half for the Panthers. So it was like,

2161
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 4: when is this Vikings offense? The reason I picked him

2162
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 4: was was like, even in these losses, they've been productive

2163
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 4: and Justin Jefferson had a big game today, but it

2164
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 4: took them a while to get out of it. But

2165
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 4: the Harrison Smith thing, and I'm glad that he was

2166
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 4: like on that replay because Harrison Smith showed me a

2167
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 4: lot about Bryce Young, who I think is struggling to

2168
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 4: see the field. He's behind a bad offensive line, but

2169
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 4: in two of his three sacks he came out of

2170
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 4: nowhere with a certain type of speed that I think

2171
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 4: at the college level, Bryce Young escapes and makes a

2172
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 4: play and not here not here, And it's just like,

2173
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 4: I like, we've talked about two other rookie quarterbacks that

2174
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 4: are vying for offensive Rookie of the Year, and I

2175
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 4: don't love what's around Bryce Young right now.

2176
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 7: He'll make a play here and.

2177
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 4: There, but it's just like we're four weeks in and

2178
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 4: I'm not really seeing it.

2179
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 7: I'm just not really seeing it.

2180
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 4: Like their offense, they got a good performance by a

2181
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 4: defense that basically set up ten points for them, and

2182
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 4: that's a lot for like a defense that's pretty banged up,

2183
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:30,599
Speaker 4: and Bryce Young and the offense could do nothing with it.

2184
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 4: There was a really big chance in this game. With

2185
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 4: seven twenty to go in the fourth quarter, They're down

2186
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 4: twenty one to thirteen the Panthers and Bryce Young had

2187
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 4: a chance to drive them and make a couple of

2188
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 4: plays here and there. But he and by the way,

2189
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 4: he was sixteen for sixteen in the second half, And

2190
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 4: when that stat popped up, I was like, wait, what,

2191
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 4: it doesn't look like it to me at all.

2192
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 7: It just didn't look like it to me at all. Why.

2193
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:54,879
Speaker 1: I guess there was just a lot of checkdowns.

2194
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just not big, big throw.

2195
01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:00,879
Speaker 3: Because they also went punt catastrophic fumble being out negative

2196
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:02,600
Speaker 3: nine and then punt.

2197
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 1: They ate one hundred and twenty one yards after it.

2198
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,719
Speaker 4: But Harrison Ford, Harrison Ford, Harrison Smith was a huge

2199
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 4: reason for that in the past rush of the Vikings

2200
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 4: in general, which under Brian Flores, I know, they were

2201
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 4: the worst defense in the league last year. There's certainly

2202
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 4: just responding to his teaching and who he is, and

2203
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 4: they made tight like life really tough for Bryce Shung.

2204
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 4: I'm be a little concerned about the journey of the

2205
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:23,760
Speaker 4: rookie season at this point.

2206
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 2: And I think Greg you made the point earlier, like, yes,

2207
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 2: progress for the defense, but again, the opponent really helps

2208
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:34,559
Speaker 2: make defenses look better as well, and Carolina just doesn't

2209
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 2: seem like it's happening right now. Frank Reich had a

2210
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 2: kind of a said postgame press conference where he said,

2211
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 2: you know, I know we're the team with the first round,

2212
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 2: first overall pick, but we're not.

2213
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 1: We don't view ourselves as this like big project.

2214
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 2: We want to have results now, and yet they're zero

2215
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 2: and four and obviously they're deep into a rebuild now.

2216
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 5: Well, he's sick of taking else.

2217
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 3: I mean, there's been a lot he lost a bunch

2218
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 3: of straight games before getting fired in Indianapolis, and now

2219
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 3: four straight here and I think you heard on the

2220
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 3: Paul Allen call. That was the sound of an announcer

2221
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 3: who's also a big Vikings fan who wants this team

2222
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 3: to be relevant, feeling like, oh, that is a season

2223
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 3: saving play. Maybe by want them because their offense isn't

2224
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,640
Speaker 3: getting anything done. Their defense scored a touch on Now

2225
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 3: our defense answered, and it would have been lights out

2226
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 3: for the Vikings at zero to four. And who knows

2227
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 3: what happens from here, but at least he got a

2228
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 3: little wife at one.

2229
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's head to the other loser goes home.

2230
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: Match thirty one to twenty eight.

2231
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 16: Denver third and thirteen bearers from Chicago forty seven, thirty

2232
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 16: eight seconds to go, no timeouts, three to the left,

2233
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 16: single receiver right fields, tries to draw the Broncos off side.

2234
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:45,560
Speaker 16: They bring the house, feels in the pocket, throws a

2235
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 16: ball that is.

2236
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 9: In complete out of dennerceptic intercept Kareem Jackson, and this.

2237
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 16: One is gonna be the Broncos first win of the year.

2238
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 16: Denver only has two interceptions in four games.

2239
01:39:57,960 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 1: Kareem has both.

2240
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Speaker 16: Of them, but this one is huge because it is

2241
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 16: sealed the Broncos first victory of the year.

2242
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 1: That's Dave Logan on the call for ko A.

2243
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:16,600
Speaker 2: Justin Fields started out incredibly on Sunday with one of

2244
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 2: the best first halfs you'll see really ever, in dominating

2245
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 2: getting the Bears out to a huge lead over the Broncos.

2246
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 1: But to Denver's credit, they came.

2247
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 2: Roaring back in the second half, outscoring Chicago twenty four

2248
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 2: to seven, and they steal it thirty one to twenty

2249
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 2: eight at a soldier field that sounded like a tomb there.

2250
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:40,719
Speaker 3: Well, they were frothily booing the hell out of Matt

2251
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 3: Iberflus for some fourth down decisions, and then certainly as

2252
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 3: the game ended, the shot of Fields just staring blankly

2253
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 3: on the bench while the Booze were just cascading down

2254
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 3: was tough to take because, ouch it, it was such

2255
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 3: a bad luck game for him. He played so well.

2256
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't a perfect first half, it was a perfect

2257
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 3: three quarters. At the end of three quarters, he was

2258
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 3: twenty three for twenty four for two hundred and eighty

2259
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 3: five yards in four touchdowns. That one incompletion was a

2260
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 3: hail Mary attempt. And I know, and I know people

2261
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,560
Speaker 3: will say, well, it is the Broncos. The Broncos are disasters,

2262
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 3: and I get it, but there were some absolute dimes

2263
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 3: in this game by him against the Blitz under pressure.

2264
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,639
Speaker 3: There was him going through Reids and getting the ball

2265
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 3: out on time.

2266
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 5: He really was really impressive.

2267
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 3: And then the Bears defense shows up and I put

2268
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 3: this a little more on eber flos to the defense.

2269
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 3: It's twenty eight to seven at that point, they gave

2270
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 3: up a long touchdown drive. The Bears finally don't have

2271
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 3: a good drive. They go three and now, but you

2272
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 3: know it happens. They give up another long touchdown drive.

2273
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 3: Then then Fields has it. You want to settle the

2274
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 3: game down and this is where your heart started to

2275
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 3: break for him. His next two possessions were he holds

2276
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 3: onto the ball too long, kind of a classic Fields thing.

2277
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 3: Jonathan Cooper, his friend who was going to exchange jerseys

2278
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:09,759
Speaker 3: with after the audume I think they were roommates, sack fumble,

2279
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:14,719
Speaker 3: they return it thirty five yards to tie. Cooper returns

2280
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 3: it and then it's like, okay, man, everything's on you

2281
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 3: right now.

2282
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 5: He goes, you know, can you answer it?

2283
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 3: You go on this long drive, you get all the

2284
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 3: way down the field in scoring position to take the

2285
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 3: lead in uber flues instead of kicking the field goal

2286
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 3: to take the lead would have been I think about

2287
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 3: a forty yard are pretty short forty two. Decides to

2288
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 3: go for it on fourth down, Snotfield, who had a

2289
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,680
Speaker 3: great drive, He hands it off, they get stuffed, Broncos

2290
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:44,719
Speaker 3: tack on a field goal, and then on the final

2291
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 3: drive for fields that it's that interception where Coolcomet said

2292
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 3: after the game it was a miscommunication where they were

2293
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:53,560
Speaker 3: thinking one guy was going to run the route, and

2294
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 3: it was just like, man, you feel for this dude

2295
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 3: after such a great start to have a total disaster

2296
01:42:58,520 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 3: of an ending.

2297
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 1: And credit the Broncos and Sean Payton.

2298
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 2: They're down twenty eight to seven late in the third

2299
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 2: quarter and they are the laughing stock of the league

2300
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 2: after a seventy to twenty last week. So there's obviously

2301
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 2: some fight in that in that on that roster to

2302
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 2: be able to do what they did here.

2303
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 1: At greg game.

2304
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 2: And I don't know Russell Wilson did he did he

2305
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,720
Speaker 2: ball out here late in this game? How did they

2306
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:23,799
Speaker 2: manage to pull off a very unlikely comeback?

2307
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 3: He played well, making short throws and Julia McLoughlin is

2308
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 3: a player I don't I don't know what his sizes,

2309
01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 3: but yeah, he can move. Like he had seven catch

2310
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 3: seven rushes for seventy two yards. I think they're afraid

2311
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 3: of using him too much because he's so small. In

2312
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 3: three catches for thirty two yards, there was a lot

2313
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:41,719
Speaker 3: of run after the catch, like, not many big plays.

2314
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 3: Mims had his like weekly big play. But yeah, their

2315
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:47,759
Speaker 3: offense has been pretty efficient in general. Nothing that blows

2316
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 3: your sock.

2317
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 1: Wilson's box score is stellar.

2318
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 5: I mean, I look at good yea. I mean it's guy.

2319
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 1: Just look at his counting numbers this year. He's having

2320
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:53,760
Speaker 1: a good year.

2321
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 2: Yes, not exactly like he's not old Russ, but he's,

2322
01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 2: like we said on Thursday, not the problem.

2323
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 3: If they had a good defense and their offense is

2324
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 3: playing well enough to win. They lost Javonte Williams to

2325
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 3: a hip injury in this game pretty early. That's partly

2326
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 3: why McLoughlin h ended up playing so much. But the

2327
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,839
Speaker 3: way it ended it just did still feel like Bart's

2328
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 3: were the story because you had eber Flu's answered questions

2329
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 3: about Chase Claypool, who was a healthy scratch and he

2330
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 3: was saying he was saying that that it was Claypool's

2331
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 3: decision to stay home. He didn't show up for the game,

2332
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 3: But then the team released a statement that was counter

2333
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 3: to what Iberflu said that they actually told them to

2334
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 3: stay home. And my read of the situation is they're

2335
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 3: trying to trade him, and they're trying to not make

2336
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 3: him look like a bad guy.

2337
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 5: But it's like too late.

2338
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 3: You're too many bear statements this year that go against

2339
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 3: what guy it is.

2340
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 4: It's a weekly drama and they and he he's the

2341
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 4: second player to publicly critique the coaching And like, I

2342
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 4: guess my thing is, you've got this young general manager

2343
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 4: that is here to rebuild the team. It's obviously a

2344
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 4: just looking not going well right now. He picked Ebrafluse,

2345
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 4: But in any other environment, I wouldn't be surprised that

2346
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 4: like Eberflus was dismissed like tomorrow, like this has gone

2347
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 4: about as poorly as possible.

2348
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 7: I don't know who you'd replay.

2349
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 3: I think he was a health of these guys because

2350
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:13,520
Speaker 3: he criticized the I don't but I don't mean no idea.

2351
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,679
Speaker 4: In the Claypool thing, it's like the fourth down decision today,

2352
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 4: but overall the Eberflus experience that it's been terrible.

2353
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 2: Regan pointed out, well, they also just had a part

2354
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 2: ways with their DC, So who is even the guy

2355
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 2: that goes into that spot and you kind of need that.

2356
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 2: It's not great. Yeah, none of it's great. All right, Okay,

2357
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 2: one more game.

2358
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 9: McKinnon is the running back for the right of Mahomes

2359
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 9: on third don and eight.

2360
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 1: Now they flare him out.

2361
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 7: They're gonna throw it.

2362
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 9: Here, McKinnon, Are Mahomes stepped up? He's at the ten

2363
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 9: angle at the five. Mahomes goes down at the two,

2364
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 9: slanting on his hip McKinnon style like Super Bowl fifty seven.

2365
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:54,679
Speaker 9: As Mahomes goes down at the two and should effect

2366
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 9: in the game, gaining nine yards on third down and eight.

2367
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 2: The call from Mitch Holds Chiefs radio, all right, I'm

2368
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 2: gonna be professional here or do my best because that

2369
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 2: should not have ever happened. Okay, because minutes earlier, third

2370
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 2: and twenty, a generous holding call unsauced Gardner kept a

2371
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 2: chief S drive alive that ended with Mahomes's slide there

2372
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 2: for the first down that allowed the Chiefs to run

2373
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:35,680
Speaker 2: out the rest of the clock and edged the New

2374
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 2: York Jets twenty three to twenty at the Meadowlands in

2375
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:40,520
Speaker 2: front of Taylor.

2376
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 1: Swift and the world.

2377
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 2: The Chiefs jumped out to a seventeen to nothing lead

2378
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 2: after the first quarter. The Jets came roaring back behind

2379
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 2: surprisingly sound play from Zach Wilson, but the Jets offense

2380
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 2: petered out in the second half after an opening touchdown,

2381
01:46:57,520 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs made the big plays down the st

2382
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:02,759
Speaker 2: and yes, got some big calls as well.

2383
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that call was unfortunate because you wanted to see

2384
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson, who had played an up and down game,

2385
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:11,839
Speaker 3: but there were definitely ups. There were more ups than

2386
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 3: we've seen out of him in a long time. You

2387
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 3: wanted to see him down six get that chance in

2388
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 3: a big spot. Their defense had been holding the fort

2389
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 3: so well after it was seventeen nothing, but after they

2390
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 3: do make that penalty, It's just like, how many times

2391
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 3: am I going to see Patrick Mahomes win win a

2392
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 3: game with his legs They showed I think he had

2393
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 3: rushed for eleven first downs before those last two. That

2394
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 3: was before he ran for the third and twenty three

2395
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 3: twenty five yard play, And that's the one that's gonna

2396
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 3: stick with me a little bit because it reminded you

2397
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 3: so much of the Super Bowl. And he ends up

2398
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:46,800
Speaker 3: sliding down on that play where there was also a

2399
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 3: penalty by the Jets to pick up twenty five yards,

2400
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 3: and it's just like, if he doesn't kill you one way,

2401
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 3: he's going to kill you another.

2402
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 5: Even on a night where he made some big miss.

2403
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 4: They referenced the Super Bowl and it's like, I go

2404
01:47:56,560 --> 01:48:01,240
Speaker 4: back to the James Bradbury defensive call that was so

2405
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:05,600
Speaker 4: pivotal in that game last February, and mahomes on his

2406
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 4: feet and just thought, the Jets defense, this is kind

2407
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:10,680
Speaker 4: of like everything you would have hoped for from the

2408
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 4: Jets for five to six of the way when you

2409
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 4: lost Aaron Rodgers, that Zach Wilson would start to become

2410
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 4: this guy. And like there was one hopeful thing I

2411
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 4: thought at the end of this that all his teammates

2412
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 4: were coming up to him and they recognized the every

2413
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:25,680
Speaker 4: put it in that fumble that was like the one

2414
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:29,680
Speaker 4: little Zach Wilson asked thing that took away from a

2415
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 4: really superb night and what could have just been like

2416
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,719
Speaker 4: these games come down to these one these little moments

2417
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 4: and this should have had it just fel like it

2418
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 4: should have.

2419
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:38,799
Speaker 7: Been a completely different story.

2420
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 4: But you are dealing with the Chiefs, who in that

2421
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 4: final quarter ate up seven minutes and twenty three seconds

2422
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 4: on a field goal drive, and then seven minutes and

2423
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 4: twenty four seconds to end the game on that final

2424
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 4: flag ridden march, and it's like, that's what they do,

2425
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 4: that's what they do in these games. And it's like

2426
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 4: they made they made Mahomes uncomfortable. Early in this game,

2427
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 4: he threw one of his worst interceptions, like Travis Kelsey,

2428
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:02,759
Speaker 4: vanished for thirty three minutes.

2429
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 7: It was all there until that holding call.

2430
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:08,759
Speaker 2: So at the end of the game, in the final

2431
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 2: seconds after the Mahomes slide, Robert Salah gets flagged for

2432
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 2: unsportsmanlike conduct and then they run the rest of the clock.

2433
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 2: And I kind of wish we could hear his press

2434
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 2: conference right now, because I understand why he's so hot.

2435
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 2: This has been an extremely, extremely heartbreaking season for everyone

2436
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 2: associated with the Jets, with everything that happened with Rogers.

2437
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 2: Even though Aaron Rodgers is in the building and he's

2438
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 2: telling him what's the stark He plans to be back

2439
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 2: this season, but you're one and three and one in

2440
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 2: three is what it is, and you're in a lot

2441
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 2: of trouble right now with some more tough games coming

2442
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 2: up on your schedule after Denver next week. But the

2443
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 2: reason he's so fired up and so upset, First of all, yes,

2444
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 2: was there contact on that play the third and twenty

2445
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 2: with Sauce. Yeah, there was some contact, but it was

2446
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 2: both ways. It is definitely not a does not to

2447
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:58,639
Speaker 2: me rise to the level of taking the flag out

2448
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 2: and make a game changing Oh oh, by the way,

2449
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 2: the result of that play was an interception by Patrick Mahomes.

2450
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 2: So not only do you wave off a third and

2451
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 2: twenty and turn into a first down, you wave off

2452
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:11,640
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes' third interception that sets up the Jets with

2453
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,640
Speaker 2: the ball with I guess what about three minutes to

2454
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 2: play down a.

2455
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 3: Theory on that he threw the flag so late it

2456
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:22,719
Speaker 3: almost was like he saw it, he wasn't maybe gonna

2457
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 3: call it. Then there's an interception and he's like, well,

2458
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 3: I guess I better call it, and.

2459
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Maybe that is listen, which actually find job.

2460
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit here and say

2461
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 2: that the Jets got booned because Patrick McK mahomes is

2462
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and the refs have to watch out for Mahomes.

2463
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 1: Although I.

2464
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 3: Mean to say that that impacted the interception, which it

2465
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:45,640
Speaker 3: did on some level, but should they have called it,

2466
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2467
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, the reason why Saul is probably gonna get

2468
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:51,639
Speaker 2: fined in his postgame presser on top of what happened

2469
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 2: at the end is because he knows what it took

2470
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 2: for this team to be down seventeen to nothing, to

2471
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 2: fight back the way they did, to be kind of

2472
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 2: kicked and spit on after everything that's gone down and

2473
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:03,839
Speaker 2: feel like you have a chance to save your season,

2474
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 2: and it felt like it got ripped out of their hands. Now,

2475
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:11,600
Speaker 2: I'll say this as terrible as that ending was anti climactic,

2476
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 2: and we know what Zach Wilson is and what he's not,

2477
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 2: the chances that he goes down the field and wins

2478
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:19,679
Speaker 2: that game very slim. However, it would have been fun

2479
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 2: to see what would have happened like that, and that's

2480
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 2: what you kind of you lose in this game. But

2481
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 2: the Jets had when the game got to twenty twenty,

2482
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 2: after they get the touchdown and the two point conversion

2483
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 2: on a great drive by Wilson where he made some

2484
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 2: big throws and then a great scramble on the two

2485
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:38,240
Speaker 2: point conversion. They had the ball twice, once near midfield

2486
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 2: after a I believe in Mahomes pick and did nothing

2487
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 2: with it, and then again after a long breeze haul

2488
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 2: run set them up in Chiefs territory twenty twenty. They

2489
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 2: then go one, two, three and punt and that was

2490
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 2: really it for their opportunities to win this game. So

2491
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 2: it was there for them beyond what you might kind

2492
01:51:57,560 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 2: of take out of this game, and they just weren't

2493
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 2: ready to step up and grab it.

2494
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 1: And that's frustrating as well.

2495
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,639
Speaker 4: There are these like little moments like the Breese Hall run,

2496
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,800
Speaker 4: which to me looked like this is going to be

2497
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:08,600
Speaker 4: a touchdown run and changed this thing, And there was

2498
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 4: a great tackle by Brian Cook, a plus tackle. I mean,

2499
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 4: this is the kind of game where if the Jets

2500
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 4: were at a different point in their season and had

2501
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 4: a better record, you could be like, this is positive,

2502
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 4: we can take a lot away from it, but it's like,

2503
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 4: what else needs to happen to this organization in this

2504
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 4: team this season? Like it was a backbreaking kind of

2505
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:29,200
Speaker 4: loss that like I wish I could see Zach Wilson

2506
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 4: in a final drive because the way he threw the balls,

2507
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:33,519
Speaker 4: like Alan Lazarre tonight and others, like some of his throws,

2508
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:35,600
Speaker 4: we just haven't seen that from Zach Wilson on a

2509
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 4: consistent basis. He played his best game and maybe it

2510
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 4: would have been a different story.

2511
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:42,719
Speaker 3: It was good pass protection, I thought from the Jets,

2512
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 3: and maybe that's why they were so tempted to go

2513
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 3: so pass heavy, But the better running team won the ball.

2514
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 3: When you were talking about Pajetco, I'm thinking the Chiefs

2515
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 3: don't win this game without Pajetco, not just the long touchdown,

2516
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 3: but the way he was breaking tackles, how he can

2517
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:02,679
Speaker 3: grind down defense is late in clock, like the Chiefs

2518
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:06,839
Speaker 3: haven't always had that, and they were absolutely the like tougher,

2519
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 3: better running team. And when they had the ball the

2520
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 3: Jets those two times to potentially go ahead, when the

2521
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 3: defense is just flying at that point, they're getting stop

2522
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 3: after stopt after stopping Mahomes, they went really passive. He

2523
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 3: was basically pass every single down. Maybe one Dalvin Cook

2524
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 3: run in there for a couple of yards, and that

2525
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 3: that's a lot to put on Zach Wilson. To me,

2526
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 3: it's like they need to have a running game and

2527
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 3: a defense. Tonight they had a defense was good enough,

2528
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 3: and you got it improved.

2529
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 5: Zach Wilson. I think he's slowly getting better. That gives

2530
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 5: you a.

2531
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 2: Little defensive line has been a lot better, right, I

2532
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 2: got a run was better. The pass protection I thought

2533
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 2: was excellent for much of this game, which you know,

2534
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 2: the quarterback playing well when the pass protection better. There's

2535
01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 2: a correlation there. My last thoughts on this game that again,

2536
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 2: extremely frustrating, because you find a way to steal this game,

2537
01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 2: and your season just feels totally different. And you got

2538
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 2: Denver coming up and all of a sudden, maybe you're like, hmm, okay,

2539
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 2: maybe we can hang around, and then the Rogers talk,

2540
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 2: and it still feels something like there's something here. One

2541
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 2: in three feels totally different. But I'm just like, as

2542
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 2: a Jets fan, I'm I talked about it all week.

2543
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 2: I felt really ominous vibes about this game, and I

2544
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 2: thought it was going to be an utter humiliation for

2545
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 2: the fan base, and I felt really bad.

2546
01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:24,200
Speaker 1: I told my brother not to go to.

2547
01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:26,080
Speaker 5: The game, and it was seventeen nothing he didn't go

2548
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 5: to the game.

2549
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 2: This is seventeen nothing in the first quarter, very quickly,

2550
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 2: and the fact that they fought back made it a game,

2551
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 2: had a lot of energy in that building. It's a

2552
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 2: small victory for me, but just the fact that they

2553
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 2: were not horrifically embarrassed in primetime and it wasn't just

2554
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 2: this Taylor swift and the Jets suck.

2555
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:45,240
Speaker 1: Isn't that funny.

2556
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 2: I'll take a little bit of a w there, but

2557
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 2: that's the only one I can take. I hate how

2558
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 2: the game ended, and and that's it. I can't say much.

2559
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 7: The one thing I'd say, I don't need to say

2560
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 7: much more.

2561
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 1: That's it.

2562
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 4: One little ray of hope is that this is like

2563
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 4: a two year journey with Aaron Rodgers, this whole coming

2564
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 4: back this season.

2565
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:01,520
Speaker 7: We'll see.

2566
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 4: But it's like it's important that this team stays together

2567
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 4: and like doesn't completely sail away, and that the coaching

2568
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 4: staff shows who they can be. And this game result

2569
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 4: frustrating as can be, but it's kind of by like

2570
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 4: Thursday or Friday. You can take some positives from it.

2571
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 4: There is a lot there's a long way to go,

2572
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 4: and like I see a team that is not given

2573
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 4: up on their coach.

2574
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 1: I agree, well, we'll see what happens. A lot of

2575
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 1: football left, a lot of season left.

2576
01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 2: Good stuff Today Sunday, Thank you to Eric and Randy

2577
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 2: behind the Glass.

2578
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 1: Thank you to you the listener.

2579
01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 2: Monday, we'll have our NFL Plus Game of the Week

2580
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 2: and another podcast tomorrow night, Monday Night Football and news

2581
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 2: catch up till then

2582
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 1: Heed the Call.