WEBVTT - Nate Bargatze 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:03.480 Like I'm on stage the I mean the you're on 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.280 stage performing and they just got up as if I 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:10.840 was just a sign like and took it. It's the 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.760 least respect I've ever been shown in my life to 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:16.240 go just in the middle of a joke. They just 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.720 stand there like that's how they go, well, this guy's 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.079 not this is not a real thing. And they just 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.159 took a picture and then I think went to the 0:00:23.160 --> 0:01:38.679 bathroom and then left. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:09.959 With the boys. 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:15.720 Presented by Barstool Sports Huge guest on Today, Nate Bargatzi. 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:18.320 Am I saying that right? Barcotzi? Yeah? 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.080 He has a Netflix special on called The Tennessee Kid. Yeah, hilarious. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:26.280 By the way, your story about before we get into that. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.800 So Taylor, So Taylor calls me thirty minutes before we 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:33.400 do this podcast and he goes, Taylor, my man, Taylor, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.880 it's like you can throw a bouncy ball in an 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:37.959 empty room, and that's how my guy is. Like, you 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.640 just sometimes you don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah, he 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.760 calls me and he's like, hey, bro, like I have 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.399 bad news. I'm you know, I'm really sorry to tell 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.880 you this. Like I'm not going to be able to 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.720 make the podcast today and I was like, all right, 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:53.960 that's cool, and he was like, uh, you know, I 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.280 know you're really mad and I was like, no, no, 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:57.680 I'm solid and he's like you're not. 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:59.880 And I was like, you know, I'm just so. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:01.760 This has happened a couple of times, Like I'm just 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.320 thinking to myself, like I shouldn't react. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.720 We got a pod in thirty minutes, like you know, 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:08.079 I'll go and I'll go. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:10.120 You know what's funny is I did a podcast a 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.079 long time ago my buddy, uh Jannis Papas who does 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.520 his own now, and we we started in two thousand 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.000 and I want to say ten or something or nine, 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.960 so this is when podcasts were kind of new. Yeah, 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.720 and like I would say, and we stopped it, but 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.200 it's like we almost like got in on Google and 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.720 then sold the stock before it, like you know, if 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.760 we would have stayed with it ten years ago. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.800 Like Joe, Yeah, yes, doing it in is a room 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:37.359 with a webcam. Yeah, it's like that. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.520 Then you're in it when no one was, you know, 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:41.360 not that many people were in it at a time. 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.520 And my buddy Yannest was is I'm not saying that 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.600 Tayo was like that, but it's like super Tayror's got 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:49.560 a lot more going on than my friend Jannis had 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:50.280 at the time. 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:50.919 Right exactly. 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.720 But he would never he would not show up a lot. 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:56.440 And it was like, and I kept telling I was like, dude, 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.600 you got to do this, like I knew, either don't 0:02:59.600 --> 0:02:59.920 do it or. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.920 I do it consistently because it won't work right. It 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:04.240 throws it just throws everything off. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.280 It throws everything off, like you at least even if 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.320 you're at least if you're just putting it out, but 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.480 it's got to stay out on a schedule or no 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:15.480 one's going to gravitate to it because you see, I 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:16.919 mean so many times you get asked to do a 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.840 podcast and it's like, you know, you're someone will be like, hey, 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.440 you do mine. You're like, you haven't done one in 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.960 six months, Like no, you're not even trying, right, Why 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.600 do I have to go do your podcast? And you're like, 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.200 you know, so you got to be super consistent with it. Yeah, 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.160 you get it, dude, I had to say. He was like, 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:34.800 he's got to go see something that they're building. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.280 And his wife was like, you know, Taylorm was like 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:38.720 you know, do you have anything else going on? And 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.160 he's like, oh, I got to go do the pott too. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:41.480 And she's like, you know you got to go see 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.240 the house of a meeting at two thirty. Yeah, He's like, 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:45.720 oh shit, let me call Will. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:46.080 Yeah. 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:47.720 I was like, it's all good man, Like, you know, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:49.640 I'll get it figured out, because he does. He's got 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.320 a lot going on. I was thinking all the way 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.000 over here, I'm like, man, Nate's coming over here. He's 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:55.720 not going to get the three time Pro Bowl, the 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.400 three time Pro Bowler, He's not going to get the 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:58.440 eighty five million dollar man. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.080 He's going to get the great value ver Yeah, the 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.600 several Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's more when we talk about 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:06.280 real things, you know. 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:10.320 Yeah, he is a helicopter probably you know, yeah knows. 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.880 He's that they got. Yeah, he's on a whole different planet, dude. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:14.960 Some of those guys who got that, who got just 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.000 that that fuck you money. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:18.599 Like they don't need it. Like when I was doing the. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.440 Pod, I was like, I just want you to show 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:21.760 up because we're like best friends. 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.160 That's my boy. And I was like I'll handle everything else. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:26.600 I was like, if you can just show up, when 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.159 we do pods, Like obviously we've kind of bounced everywhere, 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.440 and sometimes we'll back log them days in a row 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:32.839 and I'm like, you just show up. 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:33.960 I'll handle the rest. 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.359 So we kind of have like that under understanding that 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.160 it can get a little fickle or something can change 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:39.960 at the last minute. 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:41.640 But yeah, well it's like if you as long as 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.520 you stay consistent with it, to be like when he 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.680 did like eventually retires, it's like then it's like, yeah, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.839 then we get more you know, you can be more 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.839 serious or he can be more of a focus. Oh absolutely, 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.320 But I mean yeah, but to have you know, one 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.280 that's uh with both of you, I mean it's great, 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.160 like and it's like, you know, you deal with all 0:04:59.160 --> 0:04:59.960 this stuff now then. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:04.000 I know, yeah, eventually everything will calm down for us 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.440 and maybe who knows what this thing could be by then, 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.159 But we have a lot of fun with it. And 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.320 the consistency thing that you spoke on too, is like 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.280 we were going to do it in the summer. The 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:13.680 first summer we're going to do it. We're just going 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:15.600 to do it in the summer up until the season. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:16.840 And I was like, all right, then we're just going 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.120 to focus on football. And I got on a phone 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.880 call with Pat McAfee and he's like, you know, if 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.840 you're going to do a podcast, He's like, it's all 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.279 about consistency. He's like, it doesn't matter how many pods 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:28.960 you do and want to drop in the summertime. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:29.680 Like that's cool. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:31.720 He's like, but if you say you do it once 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.520 a week, Like if you can take all those episodes 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.719 and try to survive the year and drop one every week, 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.920 if you can just do it consistently, like, consistency is 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:40.640 the key. It doesn't matter if you do one episode 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:42.880 or three a week or whatever it is. He's like, 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.680 if you're just consistent, like it's like getting the you know, 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:47.640 keeping the audience in tune. Like you're like, why would 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:48.839 I go do a pod if you haven't done one 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:49.640 in six months? 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:50.479 Yeah you would. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.200 I mean that's you know, cause you get asked to 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.719 do a lot and uh, which I'm sure you do too, 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.960 and you get where some of them consistently the key 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.560 to I mean everything, like you know, I mean, you know, 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:04.240 you know, playing football, doing comedy, Like, it's all consistency 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:08.080 and that's what we weeds people out of anything for sure. 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.080 More than because overall a lot of people are talented 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.720 and uh, but consistently showing up and putting in the 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:18.080 work is you're is the most important thing. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.760 Yeah, it past dividends because like you said, like everyone's 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.720 got the ideas. Everyone comes up with everything that's going 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.200 on out there. It's the ones that are one's really consistent, 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.320 right right, right right. There's always someone else that's like 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.839 you out there to do it and you hear like 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.800 your story and you hear your Olivia story or you're 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.400 sitting there in your shirt list or whatever. It's like 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.440 I'll just change the girl's name and put a different 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:39.120 dynamic environment around and I'll. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:39.600 Have the same joke. 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.479 Yeah yeah, yeah, but uh yeah, no one's really original, 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:43.960 but yeah it's funny. 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.320 It's like there's uh it is like they're original, but 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.640 like there is you know, you're like someone will take 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:53.360 your place in a heartbeat and not bad and eye 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.400 and no one will miss you. There's an idea with like, uh, 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:58.960 I always think of it like in comedy and I'm 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:00.919 sure in football this where you're you got to be 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.039 somewhat grateful for what you have and to put in 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.040 put the work into it because uh, you know, it's 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.360 like we're not owed this, like you know we you 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.400 know a guy that is a construction worker like works 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.160 for the city, Like you feel like he's old stuff. Right, 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.640 We're not owed any of this, right, and so you 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:22.840 have to constantly just like show up and do all 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.760 the stuff because it can all go away. 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.200 Yeah in the moment of the windows small yep uh 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.480 that yeah, that is true, because once you're done, it's like, 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:32.880 you know, no one's gonna give a shit about what 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:33.320 what you did. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:34.520 Like people remember. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.800 Certain things about you, but that next guy who replaces you, 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:38.880 they're gonna everybody's gonna be like, you know, they're taking 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.240 my place out on the field, and no one's gonna 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.440 remember like any plays that were made back back whenever 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:45.000 I played. 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.760 But that's what y'all with football is that because you 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.400 have to start when do you have to start thinking 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.680 about that? Like, because y'all you've been thinking about what 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.320 I'm entire mariady, Yeah, because. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:54.840 You're done so young. 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.560 Like for me as a comedian, I'm forty one, so 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.840 I am kind of hitting a decent tried right now, 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.440 but that's not till my I turned forty. Like you're 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.760 always kind of going forward. But our really peak for 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.760 most comedians is forty to sixty is when a lot 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.440 of guys end up a really good yeah. But for 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.640 football men, you're the. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.040 Average career three three years, three and a half years. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.040 I mean, like my first thought when I came when 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.480 came in the league being undrafted is like, all right, 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:24.520 if I can be on a practice squad for one 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.240 full year and get like one hundred thousand dollars, like 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.600 you know, then that's what I need, you know what 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.440 I mean, Like, that's what I'm going towards. Since that 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.280 was like my first goal. And then it was like, 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.160 you know, you want to make the team, and then 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.520 you start making the team, you start playing, you realize 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.320 you got a couple of years in the tank, and 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.720 then I probably really started thinking about it. Honestly, when 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.680 I started doing this, putting this vision together was in 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.560 twenty eighteen when I played on the Titans. 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:48.319 I was a. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.760 Backup special teams guy, and I was kind of thinking 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.240 this could be like I'm getting closer to thirty, this 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:57.120 could potentially be my last year because I'm not playing, 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:58.600 Like if somebody signs me the next year, I'm going 0:08:58.679 --> 0:08:59.960 to be a one year minimum guy, Like I'm going 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.840 to kind of be the journeyman's style guy. So it's like, 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.600 whatever I'm doing or interested in, I need to start 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:11.000 putting it on paper and then executing it, because you know, 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.800 when you're retired, when you're playing in the league. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:15.400 I literally said this yesterday. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.880 Your jokes are funnier, you're better looking, you can shake 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.640 more hands, you can do all of it because you 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.520 know you play in the NFL right now. The moment 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.240 you're on the other side of it and you're a 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.520 retired NFL player and you're trying to do something. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:28.520 This is me saying it. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.680 I'm not saying this is what it is, but it 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:32.959 seems like you're reaching to do some more things out 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:34.480 of desperation, like you need to do something. 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:35.000 In pivots. 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.280 People kind of look at it differently, like, Okay, he's 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:38.400 trying to get into this now. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.079 Because football's over. So that was my whole mindset. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.000 So I started thinking about it when I was probably 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.920 what was that twenty seven, yeah, twenty seven, and then 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.520 I got to go to Oakland. 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.560 I played well in Oakland, I bought another year, got. 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.040 To come here, and it's just kind of like snowballed 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.240 a little bit and my benefit for me. But I 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.120 was thinking about it at like twenty seven, like or 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.559 twenty eight, however, I was I was like, man, this 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.480 thing could be coming to an end because football, I 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.679 mean football, NFL not for long, yeah, I. 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.760 Mean yeah, because I mean that's the sports. When you 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.240 guys play sports your whole life and at such the 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.600 high level, is you know, it's just so young. I 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.880 mean I always think, look at tennis, you know tennis 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.080 is I don't. I mean, unless you're Roger Feeder like 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.480 kind of these freaks, their peak is like twenty or 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:20.640 eighteen or something like that. 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.640 Yeah, I mean you're not even an adult. That's so yeah. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.960 Yeah, and you're and you're basically done right like a 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:28.720 lot of them or eighteen nineteen they're done. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.079 And then that's when they play at the highest level. 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.120 Yeah, that's when a fizzle's out with a comedy. When 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.760 you say your peak is like forty to sixty, is 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:39.960 it just that much of a grind on consistency and 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.440 being just showing up over and over and over, just 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:47.359 jokes like riding like all of it. You're just grinding 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.520 to make it to basically forty. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.240 I say that my whole I always say, you either 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.880 make it twenty or forty, and so no one makes 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:56.920 it in the middle. Yeah, Like, so you either come 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.160 out of the gate and you get grabbed up quick 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:03.319 and you become super famous early are you got to 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.040 go through all the ropes until you got to do everything. 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.680 So a lot of guys you can see where if 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.000 you had your Bill Burr, Luis k you. 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:12.760 Know, Chappelle blew up early. 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:17.400 Kevin r was probably he wasn't like super young, but 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.600 then you see guys come up where they they blow 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:24.920 up super quick, and it's better to like do better later. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:26.800 Like if you look at Bill Burr's a good example 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.160 for me, just because I was in New York when 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.240 he was there and I got to watch him very 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.679 up close, and he was like a ten year comic. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.520 Wasn't no one knew who he was, but he was. 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.480 I could see that. He's like, oh, this guy's the 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:43.440 real deal. He's amazing, and so like seeing him, he 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.360 went through all of it, he's done, you know, he 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.360 there was nothing that kind of shot him. 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.480 Up where he took a big leap, right, it was all. 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.480 He got everything when he was supposed to get those things, 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.360 so he had to go do Letterman, he had to 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.160 go do an half hour special on HBO, then an 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.880 hour special, and then now he is who he is. 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.120 And I to me think the best comics usually are 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:08.120 end up outside of Eddie Murphy, who to me, he's 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.880 got to be probably he's like a phenom to run 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:12.360 to do the act that he did. 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:13.880 He was like twenty one or something. 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.199 Yeah, that's pretty crazy, Yeah, because that's like an adult act. 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:21.800 That is a thirty year comedian act that he was 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.320 doing at twenty one, So that's pretty special. But the 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.760 other guys, yeah, you see, and they become better comics, 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.520 I think because they just have more experiences and they 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.120 have to you know, you have to earn everything. You 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.560 have to go like be around and get everything. So 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.760 I think you appreciate it more and you you don't 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.319 take any of it for granted. And then so your 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.680 act you just put more work into. You just have 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:44.640 more time to put into it. 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.800 Yeah, it seems like it all kind of comes together too, because, 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.000 like you're saying, like you got to go through it 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.679 all basically you have more of an appreciation and like 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.240 by the time you get there, you have so many 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.800 more stories from that experience to dig out compared to 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.360 like if you were like, you know, superstar young, like 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.240 you're kind of a suit. It's not like you're more 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.080 so just telling stories of celebrity. 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.320 You don't even have a life. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.280 your life, you're you know, making all that money. I'm not. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:09.840 I could see it with football. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:11.880 I could see with athletes where if your guy comes 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.280 up first, you know he's number one pick and then 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.680 just off and running versus your experience, it's gonna be 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.400 much different and you're gonna know, you know, you're gonna 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.480 understand like now this is how it goes, and you 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.920 appreciate it more than I'm sure could be. You know 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:27.920 that just came in and was like, yeah, it was easy, 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:29.760 Like I didn't ever deal with any of. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:31.840 This stuff, right, Yeah, Taylor and I talk all the 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.360 time because you know, I was on like practice squad, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:35.680 I had to do rookie mini camp twice. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:37.359 I'm like, I always. 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.360 Feel like I have an appreciation just because like there's 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.120 there's been so many like of those little gritty stories 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:44.520 that you just don't forget about, and you see like 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.400 young guys going through it now and you just kind 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:47.640 of like, you know, give them a little bit of 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.760 advice on like, hey, here's how it can work. But yeah, bro, 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.880 it was a it was a it was a bit 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.120 of a journey. I say now, I wouldn't change it 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:56.679 for the world because you got to go through it all. 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:58.559 It makes it that much better of a story, that much. 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.439 But at the time, I know, the first year when 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:01.959 I was in training camp and you're the bottom of 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:03.679 the depth chart and stuff, and you're like talking to 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.719 your parents and stuff, and you're just like, man, I 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.280 don't care if I only play one year, Like this 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.360 is such a business. It's just kind of like it's 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.600 just kind of fickle like. And that's just me talking 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.440 like I'm not I wasn't getting the opportunities that I 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:16.959 felt like I wanted to be yet I was wanting 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.320 to get So it's just my bitterness kind of talking. 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:20.880 But that first year, you're just. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.120 Going through like, man, you know this this is shitty, 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.240 Like I don't care if I play anymore, blah blah blah. 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.160 And then obviously tables turn a little bit more and 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:27.720 you start. 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.240 You get them and you get the bitterness out of 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.680 you like everybody has it, you gotta have some. 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:33.960 I don't think you have to have a little bitterness. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.240 So you have to go through that to realize like, well, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.280 this isn't I shouldn't be this is no good, like 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.240 you know, because some people live in that bitterness and 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.520 they can't get out of it. Oh that and it's 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.400 over for them. I mean, I saw plenty of comics 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.800 that were just so bitter and they never really make 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.680 it passing because they get so caught up in it. 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.880 And so you're so like comparing yourself to someone else, 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.600 so you want that's something that they have, and instead 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.280 of trying to go get it, and maybe you don't 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.600 get it on dirt timetable, you gotta get on your 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.280 own timetable. You basically just give up trying to get 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.320 it right, and then you don't, and then you never 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:07.080 get it where. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:07.400 You know. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.440 The hardest part for comedy, I think is when you're 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.040 not when you don't go blow up super quick, is 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.320 watching everybody past you, and then like every you're just 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:20.000 around everybody and they're shooting past you and they're going 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.160 to this crazy level, and then you kind of feel 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.880 like you're just slow and you're like staying there, and 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.560 it's very hard to not just to kind of be like, 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.720 all right, I'm just gonna keep doing I'm doing. I 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:32.240 think I can get to that level. It's not going 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.800 to be at the time that I want, but I'll 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.240 get there eventually. Until you just kind of stay your 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:38.480 pace and just. 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.520 Write, you we get like wondering eyes because it's hard 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.720 to like just focus on what you're doing because everybody 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.680 always says a cliche, control what you can control, and yeah. 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.040 That is a cliche, but that's like the truth, the 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:50.160 reality that you have to do. 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.400 Uh, and people can get can get hung up on 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.840 the business side of everything because everything in life is 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.320 business and people can be yeah, you know, I didn't 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.640 do this because the business side of it I got 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.720 I got fucked over, I got screwed. You know, I 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.200 didn't get to do this or that, or I didn't 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:07.880 get my opportunity like they did. I was doing the 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.400 same thing this, but yeah, people get hung up on 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.000 and that's you know, those are the people that kind 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:12.600 of fizzle out. 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.880 Oh yeah, you can't chase money either, Like you gotta 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.440 the money, you can come, but you can't really chase it. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.360 Like if your whole goal is to get Is is 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.240 it such a direct like I want to get this money. Yeah, 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.520 Like it's not gonna be good. You gotta because you 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.640 won't want to. Whatever you're doing, you're not doing it 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.120 for the right reason you're doing it. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.360 You'll just be up and down riding that roller coaster. 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:32.520 Yeah you're chasing. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.320