Speaker 1: Like I'm on stage the I mean the you're on
Speaker 1: stage performing and they just got up as if I
Speaker 1: was just a sign like and took it. It's the
Speaker 1: least respect I've ever been shown in my life to
Speaker 1: go just in the middle of a joke. They just
Speaker 1: stand there like that's how they go, well, this guy's
Speaker 1: not this is not a real thing. And they just
Speaker 1: took a picture and then I think went to the
Speaker 1: bathroom and then left.
Speaker 2: With the boys.
Speaker 3: Presented by Barstool Sports Huge guest on Today, Nate Bargatzi.
Speaker 2: Am I saying that right? Barcotzi? Yeah?
Speaker 3: He has a Netflix special on called The Tennessee Kid. Yeah, hilarious.
Speaker 3: By the way, your story about before we get into that.
Speaker 3: So Taylor, So Taylor calls me thirty minutes before we
Speaker 3: do this podcast and he goes, Taylor, my man, Taylor,
Speaker 3: it's like you can throw a bouncy ball in an
Speaker 3: empty room, and that's how my guy is. Like, you
Speaker 3: just sometimes you don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: calls me and he's like, hey, bro, like I have
Speaker 3: bad news. I'm you know, I'm really sorry to tell
Speaker 3: you this. Like I'm not going to be able to
Speaker 3: make the podcast today and I was like, all right,
Speaker 3: that's cool, and he was like, uh, you know, I
Speaker 3: know you're really mad and I was like, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm solid and he's like you're not.
Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, I'm just so.
Speaker 3: This has happened a couple of times, Like I'm just
Speaker 3: thinking to myself, like I shouldn't react.
Speaker 2: We got a pod in thirty minutes, like you know,
Speaker 2: I'll go and I'll go.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I did a podcast a
Speaker 1: long time ago my buddy, uh Jannis Papas who does
Speaker 1: his own now, and we we started in two thousand
Speaker 1: and I want to say ten or something or nine,
Speaker 1: so this is when podcasts were kind of new. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like I would say, and we stopped it, but
Speaker 1: it's like we almost like got in on Google and
Speaker 1: then sold the stock before it, like you know, if
Speaker 1: we would have stayed with it ten years ago.
Speaker 3: Like Joe, Yeah, yes, doing it in is a room
Speaker 3: with a webcam. Yeah, it's like that.
Speaker 1: Then you're in it when no one was, you know,
Speaker 1: not that many people were in it at a time.
Speaker 1: And my buddy Yannest was is I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: Tayo was like that, but it's like super Tayror's got
Speaker 1: a lot more going on than my friend Jannis had
Speaker 1: at the time.
Speaker 2: Right exactly.
Speaker 1: But he would never he would not show up a lot.
Speaker 1: And it was like, and I kept telling I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: you got to do this, like I knew, either don't
Speaker 1: do it or.
Speaker 2: I do it consistently because it won't work right. It
Speaker 2: throws it just throws everything off.
Speaker 1: It throws everything off, like you at least even if
Speaker 1: you're at least if you're just putting it out, but
Speaker 1: it's got to stay out on a schedule or no
Speaker 1: one's going to gravitate to it because you see, I
Speaker 1: mean so many times you get asked to do a
Speaker 1: podcast and it's like, you know, you're someone will be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you do mine. You're like, you haven't done one in
Speaker 1: six months, Like no, you're not even trying, right, Why
Speaker 1: do I have to go do your podcast? And you're like,
Speaker 1: you know, so you got to be super consistent with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get it, dude, I had to say. He was like,
Speaker 1: he's got to go see something that they're building.
Speaker 3: And his wife was like, you know, Taylorm was like
Speaker 3: you know, do you have anything else going on? And
Speaker 3: he's like, oh, I got to go do the pott too.
Speaker 3: And she's like, you know you got to go see
Speaker 3: the house of a meeting at two thirty. Yeah, He's like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, let me call Will.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, it's all good man, Like, you know,
Speaker 3: I'll get it figured out, because he does. He's got
Speaker 3: a lot going on. I was thinking all the way
Speaker 3: over here, I'm like, man, Nate's coming over here. He's
Speaker 3: not going to get the three time Pro Bowl, the
Speaker 3: three time Pro Bowler, He's not going to get the
Speaker 3: eighty five million dollar man.
Speaker 2: He's going to get the great value ver Yeah, the
Speaker 2: several Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's more when we talk about
Speaker 2: real things, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is a helicopter probably you know, yeah knows.
Speaker 2: He's that they got. Yeah, he's on a whole different planet, dude.
Speaker 3: Some of those guys who got that, who got just
Speaker 3: that that fuck you money.
Speaker 2: Like they don't need it. Like when I was doing the.
Speaker 3: Pod, I was like, I just want you to show
Speaker 3: up because we're like best friends.
Speaker 2: That's my boy. And I was like I'll handle everything else.
Speaker 3: I was like, if you can just show up, when
Speaker 3: we do pods, Like obviously we've kind of bounced everywhere,
Speaker 3: and sometimes we'll back log them days in a row
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you just show up.
Speaker 2: I'll handle the rest.
Speaker 3: So we kind of have like that under understanding that
Speaker 3: it can get a little fickle or something can change
Speaker 3: at the last minute.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well it's like if you as long as
Speaker 1: you stay consistent with it, to be like when he
Speaker 1: did like eventually retires, it's like then it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: then we get more you know, you can be more
Speaker 1: serious or he can be more of a focus. Oh absolutely,
Speaker 1: But I mean yeah, but to have you know, one
Speaker 1: that's uh with both of you, I mean it's great,
Speaker 1: like and it's like, you know, you deal with all
Speaker 1: this stuff now then.
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, eventually everything will calm down for us
Speaker 3: and maybe who knows what this thing could be by then,
Speaker 3: But we have a lot of fun with it. And
Speaker 3: the consistency thing that you spoke on too, is like
Speaker 3: we were going to do it in the summer. The
Speaker 3: first summer we're going to do it. We're just going
Speaker 3: to do it in the summer up until the season.
Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, then we're just going
Speaker 3: to focus on football. And I got on a phone
Speaker 3: call with Pat McAfee and he's like, you know, if
Speaker 3: you're going to do a podcast, He's like, it's all
Speaker 3: about consistency. He's like, it doesn't matter how many pods
Speaker 3: you do and want to drop in the summertime.
Speaker 2: Like that's cool.
Speaker 3: He's like, but if you say you do it once
Speaker 3: a week, Like if you can take all those episodes
Speaker 3: and try to survive the year and drop one every week,
Speaker 3: if you can just do it consistently, like, consistency is
Speaker 3: the key. It doesn't matter if you do one episode
Speaker 3: or three a week or whatever it is. He's like,
Speaker 3: if you're just consistent, like it's like getting the you know,
Speaker 3: keeping the audience in tune. Like you're like, why would
Speaker 3: I go do a pod if you haven't done one
Speaker 3: in six months?
Speaker 2: Yeah you would.
Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, cause you get asked to
Speaker 1: do a lot and uh, which I'm sure you do too,
Speaker 1: and you get where some of them consistently the key
Speaker 1: to I mean everything, like you know, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, playing football, doing comedy, Like, it's all consistency
Speaker 1: and that's what we weeds people out of anything for sure.
Speaker 1: More than because overall a lot of people are talented
Speaker 1: and uh, but consistently showing up and putting in the
Speaker 1: work is you're is the most important thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it past dividends because like you said, like everyone's
Speaker 3: got the ideas. Everyone comes up with everything that's going
Speaker 3: on out there. It's the ones that are one's really consistent,
Speaker 3: right right, right right. There's always someone else that's like
Speaker 3: you out there to do it and you hear like
Speaker 3: your story and you hear your Olivia story or you're
Speaker 3: sitting there in your shirt list or whatever. It's like
Speaker 3: I'll just change the girl's name and put a different
Speaker 3: dynamic environment around and I'll.
Speaker 2: Have the same joke.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, but uh yeah, no one's really original,
Speaker 3: but yeah it's funny.
Speaker 1: It's like there's uh it is like they're original, but
Speaker 1: like there is you know, you're like someone will take
Speaker 1: your place in a heartbeat and not bad and eye
Speaker 1: and no one will miss you. There's an idea with like, uh,
Speaker 1: I always think of it like in comedy and I'm
Speaker 1: sure in football this where you're you got to be
Speaker 1: somewhat grateful for what you have and to put in
Speaker 1: put the work into it because uh, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like we're not owed this, like you know we you
Speaker 1: know a guy that is a construction worker like works
Speaker 1: for the city, Like you feel like he's old stuff. Right,
Speaker 1: We're not owed any of this, right, and so you
Speaker 1: have to constantly just like show up and do all
Speaker 1: the stuff because it can all go away.
Speaker 3: Yeah in the moment of the windows small yep uh
Speaker 3: that yeah, that is true, because once you're done, it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, no one's gonna give a shit about what
Speaker 3: what you did.
Speaker 2: Like people remember.
Speaker 3: Certain things about you, but that next guy who replaces you,
Speaker 3: they're gonna everybody's gonna be like, you know, they're taking
Speaker 3: my place out on the field, and no one's gonna
Speaker 3: remember like any plays that were made back back whenever
Speaker 3: I played.
Speaker 1: But that's what y'all with football is that because you
Speaker 1: have to start when do you have to start thinking
Speaker 1: about that? Like, because y'all you've been thinking about what
Speaker 1: I'm entire mariady, Yeah, because.
Speaker 2: You're done so young.
Speaker 1: Like for me as a comedian, I'm forty one, so
Speaker 1: I am kind of hitting a decent tried right now,
Speaker 1: but that's not till my I turned forty. Like you're
Speaker 1: always kind of going forward. But our really peak for
Speaker 1: most comedians is forty to sixty is when a lot
Speaker 1: of guys end up a really good yeah. But for
Speaker 1: football men, you're the.
Speaker 2: Average career three three years, three and a half years.
Speaker 3: I mean, like my first thought when I came when
Speaker 3: came in the league being undrafted is like, all right,
Speaker 3: if I can be on a practice squad for one
Speaker 3: full year and get like one hundred thousand dollars, like
Speaker 3: you know, then that's what I need, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, that's what I'm going towards. Since that
Speaker 3: was like my first goal. And then it was like,
Speaker 3: you know, you want to make the team, and then
Speaker 3: you start making the team, you start playing, you realize
Speaker 3: you got a couple of years in the tank, and
Speaker 3: then I probably really started thinking about it. Honestly, when
Speaker 3: I started doing this, putting this vision together was in
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen when I played on the Titans.
Speaker 2: I was a.
Speaker 3: Backup special teams guy, and I was kind of thinking
Speaker 3: this could be like I'm getting closer to thirty, this
Speaker 3: could potentially be my last year because I'm not playing,
Speaker 3: Like if somebody signs me the next year, I'm going
Speaker 3: to be a one year minimum guy, Like I'm going
Speaker 3: to kind of be the journeyman's style guy. So it's like,
Speaker 3: whatever I'm doing or interested in, I need to start
Speaker 3: putting it on paper and then executing it, because you know,
Speaker 3: when you're retired, when you're playing in the league.
Speaker 2: I literally said this yesterday.
Speaker 3: Your jokes are funnier, you're better looking, you can shake
Speaker 3: more hands, you can do all of it because you
Speaker 3: know you play in the NFL right now. The moment
Speaker 3: you're on the other side of it and you're a
Speaker 3: retired NFL player and you're trying to do something.
Speaker 2: This is me saying it.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is what it is, but it
Speaker 3: seems like you're reaching to do some more things out
Speaker 3: of desperation, like you need to do something.
Speaker 2: In pivots.
Speaker 3: People kind of look at it differently, like, Okay, he's
Speaker 3: trying to get into this now.
Speaker 2: Because football's over. So that was my whole mindset.
Speaker 3: So I started thinking about it when I was probably
Speaker 3: what was that twenty seven, yeah, twenty seven, and then
Speaker 3: I got to go to Oakland.
Speaker 2: I played well in Oakland, I bought another year, got.
Speaker 3: To come here, and it's just kind of like snowballed
Speaker 3: a little bit and my benefit for me. But I
Speaker 3: was thinking about it at like twenty seven, like or
Speaker 3: twenty eight, however, I was I was like, man, this
Speaker 3: thing could be coming to an end because football, I
Speaker 3: mean football, NFL not for long, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean yeah, because I mean that's the sports. When you
Speaker 1: guys play sports your whole life and at such the
Speaker 1: high level, is you know, it's just so young. I
Speaker 1: mean I always think, look at tennis, you know tennis
Speaker 1: is I don't. I mean, unless you're Roger Feeder like
Speaker 1: kind of these freaks, their peak is like twenty or
Speaker 1: eighteen or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're not even an adult. That's so yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're and you're basically done right like a
Speaker 1: lot of them or eighteen nineteen they're done.
Speaker 2: And then that's when they play at the highest level.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when a fizzle's out with a comedy. When
Speaker 3: you say your peak is like forty to sixty, is
Speaker 3: it just that much of a grind on consistency and
Speaker 3: being just showing up over and over and over, just
Speaker 3: jokes like riding like all of it. You're just grinding
Speaker 3: to make it to basically forty.
Speaker 1: I say that my whole I always say, you either
Speaker 1: make it twenty or forty, and so no one makes
Speaker 1: it in the middle. Yeah, Like, so you either come
Speaker 1: out of the gate and you get grabbed up quick
Speaker 1: and you become super famous early are you got to
Speaker 1: go through all the ropes until you got to do everything.
Speaker 1: So a lot of guys you can see where if
Speaker 1: you had your Bill Burr, Luis k you.
Speaker 2: Know, Chappelle blew up early.
Speaker 1: Kevin r was probably he wasn't like super young, but
Speaker 1: then you see guys come up where they they blow
Speaker 1: up super quick, and it's better to like do better later.
Speaker 1: Like if you look at Bill Burr's a good example
Speaker 1: for me, just because I was in New York when
Speaker 1: he was there and I got to watch him very
Speaker 1: up close, and he was like a ten year comic.
Speaker 1: Wasn't no one knew who he was, but he was.
Speaker 1: I could see that. He's like, oh, this guy's the
Speaker 1: real deal. He's amazing, and so like seeing him, he
Speaker 1: went through all of it, he's done, you know, he
Speaker 1: there was nothing that kind of shot him.
Speaker 2: Up where he took a big leap, right, it was all.
Speaker 1: He got everything when he was supposed to get those things,
Speaker 1: so he had to go do Letterman, he had to
Speaker 1: go do an half hour special on HBO, then an
Speaker 1: hour special, and then now he is who he is.
Speaker 1: And I to me think the best comics usually are
Speaker 1: end up outside of Eddie Murphy, who to me, he's
Speaker 1: got to be probably he's like a phenom to run
Speaker 1: to do the act that he did.
Speaker 2: He was like twenty one or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty crazy, Yeah, because that's like an adult act.
Speaker 1: That is a thirty year comedian act that he was
Speaker 1: doing at twenty one, So that's pretty special. But the
Speaker 1: other guys, yeah, you see, and they become better comics,
Speaker 1: I think because they just have more experiences and they
Speaker 1: have to you know, you have to earn everything. You
Speaker 1: have to go like be around and get everything. So
Speaker 1: I think you appreciate it more and you you don't
Speaker 1: take any of it for granted. And then so your
Speaker 1: act you just put more work into. You just have
Speaker 1: more time to put into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like it all kind of comes together too, because,
Speaker 3: like you're saying, like you got to go through it
Speaker 3: all basically you have more of an appreciation and like
Speaker 3: by the time you get there, you have so many
Speaker 3: more stories from that experience to dig out compared to
Speaker 3: like if you were like, you know, superstar young, like
Speaker 3: you're kind of a suit. It's not like you're more
Speaker 3: so just telling stories of celebrity.
Speaker 2: You don't even have a life. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: your life, you're you know, making all that money. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I could see it with football.
Speaker 1: I could see with athletes where if your guy comes
Speaker 1: up first, you know he's number one pick and then
Speaker 1: just off and running versus your experience, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: much different and you're gonna know, you know, you're gonna
Speaker 1: understand like now this is how it goes, and you
Speaker 1: appreciate it more than I'm sure could be. You know
Speaker 1: that just came in and was like, yeah, it was easy,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't ever deal with any of.
Speaker 3: This stuff, right, Yeah, Taylor and I talk all the
Speaker 3: time because you know, I was on like practice squad,
Speaker 3: I had to do rookie mini camp twice.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I always.
Speaker 3: Feel like I have an appreciation just because like there's
Speaker 3: there's been so many like of those little gritty stories
Speaker 3: that you just don't forget about, and you see like
Speaker 3: young guys going through it now and you just kind
Speaker 3: of like, you know, give them a little bit of
Speaker 3: advice on like, hey, here's how it can work. But yeah, bro,
Speaker 3: it was a it was a it was a bit
Speaker 3: of a journey. I say now, I wouldn't change it
Speaker 3: for the world because you got to go through it all.
Speaker 2: It makes it that much better of a story, that much.
Speaker 3: But at the time, I know, the first year when
Speaker 3: I was in training camp and you're the bottom of
Speaker 3: the depth chart and stuff, and you're like talking to
Speaker 3: your parents and stuff, and you're just like, man, I
Speaker 3: don't care if I only play one year, Like this
Speaker 3: is such a business. It's just kind of like it's
Speaker 3: just kind of fickle like. And that's just me talking
Speaker 3: like I'm not I wasn't getting the opportunities that I
Speaker 3: felt like I wanted to be yet I was wanting
Speaker 3: to get So it's just my bitterness kind of talking.
Speaker 2: But that first year, you're just.
Speaker 3: Going through like, man, you know this this is shitty,
Speaker 3: Like I don't care if I play anymore, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: And then obviously tables turn a little bit more and
Speaker 3: you start.
Speaker 1: You get them and you get the bitterness out of
Speaker 1: you like everybody has it, you gotta have some.
Speaker 2: I don't think you have to have a little bitterness.
Speaker 1: So you have to go through that to realize like, well,
Speaker 1: this isn't I shouldn't be this is no good, like
Speaker 1: you know, because some people live in that bitterness and
Speaker 1: they can't get out of it. Oh that and it's
Speaker 1: over for them. I mean, I saw plenty of comics
Speaker 1: that were just so bitter and they never really make
Speaker 1: it passing because they get so caught up in it.
Speaker 1: And so you're so like comparing yourself to someone else,
Speaker 1: so you want that's something that they have, and instead
Speaker 1: of trying to go get it, and maybe you don't
Speaker 1: get it on dirt timetable, you gotta get on your
Speaker 1: own timetable. You basically just give up trying to get
Speaker 1: it right, and then you don't, and then you never
Speaker 1: get it where.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The hardest part for comedy, I think is when you're
Speaker 1: not when you don't go blow up super quick, is
Speaker 1: watching everybody past you, and then like every you're just
Speaker 1: around everybody and they're shooting past you and they're going
Speaker 1: to this crazy level, and then you kind of feel
Speaker 1: like you're just slow and you're like staying there, and
Speaker 1: it's very hard to not just to kind of be like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm just gonna keep doing I'm doing. I
Speaker 1: think I can get to that level. It's not going
Speaker 1: to be at the time that I want, but I'll
Speaker 1: get there eventually. Until you just kind of stay your
Speaker 1: pace and just.
Speaker 3: Write, you we get like wondering eyes because it's hard
Speaker 3: to like just focus on what you're doing because everybody
Speaker 3: always says a cliche, control what you can control, and yeah.
Speaker 2: That is a cliche, but that's like the truth, the
Speaker 2: reality that you have to do.
Speaker 3: Uh, and people can get can get hung up on
Speaker 3: the business side of everything because everything in life is
Speaker 3: business and people can be yeah, you know, I didn't
Speaker 3: do this because the business side of it I got
Speaker 3: I got fucked over, I got screwed. You know, I
Speaker 3: didn't get to do this or that, or I didn't
Speaker 3: get my opportunity like they did. I was doing the
Speaker 3: same thing this, but yeah, people get hung up on
Speaker 3: and that's you know, those are the people that kind
Speaker 3: of fizzle out.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can't chase money either, Like you gotta
Speaker 1: the money, you can come, but you can't really chase it.
Speaker 1: Like if your whole goal is to get Is is
Speaker 1: it such a direct like I want to get this money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it's not gonna be good. You gotta because you
Speaker 1: won't want to. Whatever you're doing, you're not doing it
Speaker 1: for the right reason you're doing it.
Speaker 2: You'll just be up and down riding that roller coaster.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're chasing.
Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna it's gonna come and go and
Speaker 1: like so you got to just sit and build like
Speaker 1: a steadiness. Birds said to me a long time ago
Speaker 1: that always liked the advice where he was like, your path,
Speaker 1: you know he's talking about me. He saw me do
Speaker 1: comedy when I was like, this is ten to fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago, but he goes, uh, how.
Speaker 2: Do you know forty one? Forty one? Okay?
Speaker 1: Our ten is probably twelve years ago. Like and then
Speaker 1: because I've been doing conning for eighteen years. And but
Speaker 1: he's like, your path is gonna take longer, but you
Speaker 1: gain fame and you gain them for life. And I
Speaker 1: really like that because it was like, yeah, your path
Speaker 1: does take longer, but everything you get it's not like
Speaker 1: you kind of you earn them like they find you.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not just putting Someone says last night.
Speaker 1: I was just talking about it with Little Nas, like
Speaker 1: that song, you know whatever, his song is, Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: the most famous song everybody in the world knows.
Speaker 3: Both of us were just He's like, Little Nas that song,
Speaker 3: you say, probably thinking I'm gonna sound like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know it either.
Speaker 2: No, it's the what is it? Old Town? Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: saying this, like but obviously you know the song. You've
Speaker 2: heard of this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Uh, but like what that guy can't probably go sell
Speaker 1: out arenas. He probably doesn't even have a full show
Speaker 1: that you could go watch. He has that song, and
Speaker 1: it was a huge song. But that song is almost
Speaker 1: forced onto everybody on earth. You're just going to hear
Speaker 1: it because it's the hit new thing versus you got
Speaker 1: someone like a Chris Stapleton.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: That's like more of like that guy is earned everything,
Speaker 1: and people the respect for what he does is much more. It's,
Speaker 1: you know, because he's sat there and he's earned it,
Speaker 1: and he's kind of come up, not that I know
Speaker 1: his whole path, but right right, he kind of came
Speaker 1: up to that and uh so those guys truly earned
Speaker 1: their right. Darius Rucker, I mean, Dearreis Ruckger, went from
Speaker 1: Hohodi both as two than now he's a country sinker.
Speaker 1: Like that guy's been through it all. He's slowly just kept.
Speaker 2: Going yeah, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3: Would you say it sounds like like you've always been
Speaker 3: curious and picking mentors people you've probably seen on your levels,
Speaker 3: people that are farther along than you, and you've always
Speaker 3: kind of picked their brain or just got advice or
Speaker 3: advice is just stuck with you to where you're kind
Speaker 3: of on your own journey with it, thinking like, okay,
Speaker 3: because you've alluded to the example of you seeing people
Speaker 3: pass you by, Like what were some of those times
Speaker 3: where you're sitting there and you're either feeling down about
Speaker 3: your journey or some of those hard adversity moments that
Speaker 3: kind of made you who you made you into what
Speaker 3: you are now.
Speaker 1: Well, I always I do always liked I've always thought
Speaker 1: like you need to have someone right above you that
Speaker 1: you can talk to. I always thought you needed someone
Speaker 1: right above you and someone below you, like wherever you're
Speaker 1: at in your career, and because the person you can't
Speaker 1: when you first start, if I'm like trying to go
Speaker 1: get advice from Chris Rock, like I can't I'm an
Speaker 1: open micer. No one knows, you know, I've just I've
Speaker 1: been in to comic for two years. Nothing he can
Speaker 1: tell me I could relate to. He's too far ahead.
Speaker 1: So you need if your two year comic, I need
Speaker 1: to talk to like a three year comic and like
Speaker 1: be like what are you?
Speaker 2: Where are you at?
Speaker 1: Like how do I get to that? Because that's more
Speaker 1: of an attainable goal. I never try to have too many,
Speaker 1: Like the goals. I don't ever want them to be
Speaker 1: like you're saying you want one hundred thousand dollars practice
Speaker 1: practice squad.
Speaker 2: Like that was your goal. You're like, that's attainable.
Speaker 1: I can get it, and then once you get it,
Speaker 1: then you can go to the neck whatever the next
Speaker 1: plan is. But I don't think you should put goals
Speaker 1: because people can your goals could be too high that
Speaker 1: they're unreachable at the time. You know, if I'm sitting here,
Speaker 1: five year comic going like I'm trying to sell out
Speaker 1: massacuare a garden, You're like, all right, dude, like you're
Speaker 1: you how long it's gonna take to get to that point?
Speaker 1: Like and it's it would become untainable, and so then
Speaker 1: there's never a win.
Speaker 2: You don't give yourself a win.
Speaker 1: At the beginning, I just wanted little like I used
Speaker 1: to bark, where I used to hand out flyers outside
Speaker 1: comedy clubs. So you'd be in New York City and
Speaker 1: you'd be like, hey, we got a great comedy show,
Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to give all these flyers out
Speaker 1: to all these people. And you get them to come
Speaker 1: into the show, and it's brutal, and it's twenty degrees outside.
Speaker 1: No one wants these flyers. No one's excited. You're handed like,
Speaker 1: no one's happy about it. Any flyer you go up
Speaker 1: and see it, they would drop them in front of
Speaker 1: your face. They would grab the flyer and then drop
Speaker 1: it and look at you as the flyer hit and
Speaker 1: then you gotta it's just a long fall, long fall,
Speaker 1: and you got to pick it up, and you're like
Speaker 1: all right, and I got to pick it back up
Speaker 1: and try to give it to someone else. It's wet
Speaker 1: now because of this stuff, and you would just see that.
Speaker 1: But I remember just thinking, I don't want to do this.
Speaker 1: How do I get good enough to not have to
Speaker 1: stand on this corner? And it was like that was
Speaker 1: the first goal was just don't stand on this corner,
Speaker 1: and then you slowly just then you then you get
Speaker 1: off the corner and you don't have to stand there,
Speaker 1: and now you're like working the door at a comedy club.
Speaker 1: And then you're like, well, I don't want to work
Speaker 1: the door. I just want to be going to be
Speaker 1: to do a spot. And so you just slowly have
Speaker 1: these little like kind of goals. And so I would
Speaker 1: always try to like talk to the person that was
Speaker 1: right above me. Who could I learn from that's right
Speaker 1: above me that I can try to get where they're at.
Speaker 1: And then you slowly go up and then you pass
Speaker 1: those people and then you find and there's another person
Speaker 1: that you're like, well, they're doing late night sets like
Speaker 1: tonight show Conan. You so you're, hey, how do you
Speaker 1: get like what do you got to do with the
Speaker 1: process with the conan? And you don't ever ask for
Speaker 1: something either, Like it's never like, hey can you get
Speaker 1: me on Conan? It's how do you get on coning?
Speaker 1: Because that's another like too many people they just I
Speaker 1: would get asked all the time and they'd be like, hey,
Speaker 1: how do you just can you give me on Conan?
Speaker 2: Like they you're like, what are you crazy? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: well yeah, hey you can go in tomorrow. Yeah he's good, dude,
Speaker 2: yeah he said, he said cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But so it's like you just have those little goals
Speaker 1: and you talk to those people and then as it
Speaker 1: goes oh, you're it continues to grow and you continue
Speaker 1: and then you have someone below you that I feel
Speaker 1: like it's good for you to give advice because then
Speaker 1: you get to remind yourself as you say it that like, hey,
Speaker 1: I need this person to be like, here's what you
Speaker 1: need to do. You know, I'm still learning, but like
Speaker 1: it's you just you're you're hearing it again and you're
Speaker 1: helping someone that's younger than you and like, uh, and
Speaker 1: so then there's a there's a good I don't know,
Speaker 1: there's a good group of people that are kind of
Speaker 1: rooting for each other and helping each other. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel I feel like you kind of give yourself
Speaker 3: some accountability to like when you're teaching somebody below you,
Speaker 3: because you're preaching something that you've learned and you're hoping
Speaker 3: they put it into action. But then you're also hoping you're
Speaker 3: also making yourself accountable to continue to show up to
Speaker 3: prove that, Hey, this is the discipline that I'm trying
Speaker 3: to teach you.
Speaker 1: And you don't want to see that person pass you, right,
Speaker 1: and so then you're trying to stay ahead of them.
Speaker 1: And like you know, it's I mean, because there's a
Speaker 1: competitiveness to it. Comedy is different than sports are pretty uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of politics, but
Speaker 1: in general, it's a pretty cut and dry like you're
Speaker 1: either fast or is this guy or not? Or you
Speaker 1: can do this or that whatever it is. And comedy
Speaker 1: is very you know, like I would say, like there's
Speaker 1: not really a mount rushmore. I mean, there's more of
Speaker 1: a mount rushmore of comedy than there ever could be
Speaker 1: one great to me, right, you're.
Speaker 2: Going to list because everybody likes different things.
Speaker 1: Our objective, Yeah, so you have you just want to
Speaker 1: be you know, at the end, you would love to
Speaker 1: be in the group of when people say who's the
Speaker 1: best comedians ever? It's like Chappelle, Rock, Eddie Murphy, Seinfeld,
Speaker 1: you know, Ron Reagan like or something like you just
Speaker 1: want to be among like in the.
Speaker 2: List right of the you know of who's the best? Yeah,
Speaker 2: how do.
Speaker 3: You know you wanted to get in a comedy, Like
Speaker 3: it seems like you're first you're kind of how what
Speaker 3: what made you want to get in a comedy? And
Speaker 3: then how the hell did you get up in New
Speaker 3: York and you're passing off flyers when you're a Tennessee boy?
Speaker 3: I yeah from here? Where are you from? I'm from Missouri.
Speaker 3: I'm from like four and a half hours away, like
Speaker 3: an hour south of Saint Louis. It's called Bonterre shout
Speaker 3: out BT, a little small spot, but but yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: Where I'm at.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: So, I my dad's a magician, So I grew up
Speaker 1: I mean I grew up at least somewhere around him
Speaker 1: doing magic, and uh he would always do shows and
Speaker 1: uh he always had day jobs too, but he still
Speaker 1: does magic. He's very good. That's awesome. Yeah that does magic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh, I mean you just grow. It's just like
Speaker 1: was normal. Yeah, like, uh, your.
Speaker 3: Friends come over and they're like, hey, hey, mister Barcossi,
Speaker 3: can you do these tricks?
Speaker 2: You're like all right, here, we fucking go right go ahead.
Speaker 1: They would do my birthdays because it was free, you know,
Speaker 1: like it was like so they didn't want to pay
Speaker 1: for entertainment.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'll do it, and that's right off.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I mean as.
Speaker 1: A as a kid that like is just around magic
Speaker 1: all the time, like magic is just ruined. I always
Speaker 1: say I can't do magic. I can ruin it for
Speaker 1: you because it's just ruin.
Speaker 2: You just see.
Speaker 1: I saw him practice all these tricks all you don't
Speaker 1: just know how it works. You know how it works.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of practice, but you know how it works.
Speaker 1: And then just the the steak of magic is kind
Speaker 1: of taken away from you because you're like, I know,
Speaker 1: it's just a trick. It's like you know, it's like
Speaker 1: I saw it. I see I seemed so much magic.
Speaker 3: People are probably trying to like show you magic to
Speaker 3: see if you can figure out what they're even doing.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean we had I went one time, we
Speaker 1: went to some thing and the magician came up to
Speaker 1: me like he was doing walk around and he came
Speaker 1: up to me being like he might me show you
Speaker 1: a trick. And You're like, dude, I'm just not the
Speaker 1: guy like you could anybody else. I just do not care.
Speaker 1: Like I got to act like I'm gonna be amazed.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it seems like a very funny thing
Speaker 1: to not be amazed. But it's like, I haven't pick
Speaker 1: your card. You're like, I don't. Yeah, my whole life,
Speaker 1: my card's been picked. But I've always seen every card pick,
Speaker 1: so it's uh but my birthday. I remember one birthday,
Speaker 1: he's doing a magic show and if you could see,
Speaker 1: and I just didn't want to watch the show, like
Speaker 1: I'd rather him just not do. But all the other
Speaker 1: kids love it. Yeah, so your friends are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is great. And I remember I was just sitting
Speaker 1: on uh. I just I was went and was on
Speaker 1: a swing by myself as they watched the magic show.
Speaker 1: Because I always think if you could see that from
Speaker 1: a distance, you would just be like, why don't they
Speaker 1: let that kid come to the magic show?
Speaker 2: Not knowing that it's my birthday?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm just now alone on a swing, swinging alone.
Speaker 1: But he was like, I'm just you know, I was around.
Speaker 1: He was a clown when I was a kid. When
Speaker 1: I was like five, he started doing that and he
Speaker 1: would he went to Treveca, which is here in Nashville,
Speaker 1: and uh so I was five years old and I
Speaker 1: used to do our kindergarten class. He would come, and
Speaker 1: that one I loved because I was five years old
Speaker 1: and he was my dad's a clown. You're like the
Speaker 1: coolest kid you know in school. Uh, so you would
Speaker 1: get to come see that, But I was, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: just around. I mean, I've had jokes about it where
Speaker 1: I talked about uh I met My first memory is
Speaker 1: meeting the Easter Bunny. My first memory of life is
Speaker 1: my dad pulls up in our car. He's dressed, he's
Speaker 1: he's in clown makeup, and the Easter Bunny is in
Speaker 1: the passenger seat. He's in clown makeup, clown makeup, driving
Speaker 1: the car and the Easter Buddies in the passenger seat.
Speaker 1: And they were doing a show at a mall. And
Speaker 1: the Easter Buddy needed a ride home. He wasn't he
Speaker 1: wasn't crushing it, I guess, and uh, he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take you home, but do you mind like just
Speaker 1: seeing my kid first? And so my dad pulled in
Speaker 1: and uh, and so I got to meet the Easter Buddies.
Speaker 1: My first memory of my life. Oh wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he I remember he did.
Speaker 1: Uh he dressed as Batman one year for I want
Speaker 1: to say an oper Land. So he used to be
Speaker 1: a theme park here in Nashville and he worked. He
Speaker 1: would work it, and he had a full Batman costume
Speaker 1: because he was Batman at this theme park was his gig,
Speaker 1: and so he came home in that. So there was
Speaker 1: a lot of kind of crazy things where I mean
Speaker 1: he was home in a real legit Batman suit with the.
Speaker 2: Who was he trying to do? The voice? And all
Speaker 2: this was this was pre voice, Okay, so it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was before that that all got taken on,
Speaker 1: you know, and Batman talked normal like that Adam Way, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know that. I don't know that Batman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like me, He's like, hey, hey, you
Speaker 1: guys doing everybody thought they could take that Batman. You're like,
Speaker 1: I could fight this Batman. It wasn't until his voice
Speaker 1: got real deep that you're like, this guy's a real deal.
Speaker 3: I would have been one of your I would have
Speaker 3: been one of his friends at the birthday party, like.
Speaker 2: Hey, Nate Man. It was a fun It was an
Speaker 2: eight of spades that was the card. Like you're just
Speaker 2: cursing at eight, Like you're like, well, it's you talked
Speaker 2: about that. My buddy is from New York, New York.
Speaker 1: We uh cursing? Is you see kids? You know, because
Speaker 1: I think we're on the South. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember growing up kids cursing like you just didn't
Speaker 1: hear it as much.
Speaker 2: I heard it some some I heard football. Guess you're different. Yeah. Coaches, yeah,
Speaker 2: eight years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I did my first youth football
Speaker 1: cursing I did here and it was always football coaches.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I played very briefly because I was too little because
Speaker 1: they were I remember playing and they would the double
Speaker 1: stripes so you had to wait. If you weighed too much,
Speaker 1: you had to play the line. Yeah, and you'd have
Speaker 1: to wear a double stripe on your helmet. So they'd
Speaker 1: make them run with trash bags on them to lose
Speaker 1: weight so they could be like the running back. She's
Speaker 1: like an adult twelve year old. It's like wrestling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're wearing all the stuff. They're wearing all this stuff,
Speaker 1: so it's like a like an adult kid. And I remember,
Speaker 1: I just remember these kids were so big, man. And
Speaker 1: then the coaches do that what's the drill where you
Speaker 1: stand in the middle and then there everybody's around you
Speaker 1: puling the ring. Yeah, yeah, and they would do that.
Speaker 1: I would always pretend my helmet broke daring it.
Speaker 2: I would be like my thing, I'd be yanking the
Speaker 2: whole time. I would be. I would yank stuff out
Speaker 2: of it, Like god, dude, can you believe this again? Today? Again? Today?
Speaker 2: This came out?
Speaker 1: All right, I guess I'll go fix because I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not these are grown men hitting. They were like
Speaker 1: eleven that kid weigh he's trying to own pounds to
Speaker 1: not play the line.
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm not. This is not I shouldn't be here, dude.
Speaker 3: The ship that you do back in youth football, that's
Speaker 3: obviously it's banned now. You can't do that stuff now.
Speaker 3: But man, we would play Duck Duck Goose. So everybody
Speaker 3: be sitting circle. You go around like Doug dug Duck
Speaker 3: and Goose. Hit the helmet. You take off around the circle.
Speaker 2: They get up and run around the other circle, and
Speaker 2: all you do is hit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one's got the ball, like you just collide
Speaker 3: as hard as you can.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be.
Speaker 3: Coaches would want kids to quit, and they would I
Speaker 3: would be like, I'd be like one of the guys.
Speaker 2: They'd be like, hey, Will, I'm gonna put you.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put you in this drill with him, like,
Speaker 3: you know, try to get him to quit, like we
Speaker 3: don't need him on our team. I swear to god, dude,
Speaker 3: I'm not joking. I mean, you're nine years old, But
Speaker 3: what'd you say?
Speaker 2: And you're like nine? You just imagine telling my daughter's eight.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine telling her, Hey, I want this kid
Speaker 1: to quit, so I need you to murder this kid. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. That's how it used to. I mean
Speaker 1: it's just you were again. Now they're playing flag football,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And so that's which is play flag and then you
Speaker 3: gotta play like I want to say, the uh, you
Speaker 3: gotta go through like phases now of like learning how
Speaker 3: to tackle, right, Maybe I have no clue and.
Speaker 1: Obviously oh yeah yeah yeah, well I was like it's
Speaker 1: football like this. It's always like trying to figure out
Speaker 1: where these concussions come from, and you're like, I mean
Speaker 1: I have a good idea where they come from, you know, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all these billions dollars of study, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: people are hitting each other their head.
Speaker 2: That has a lot to do with it. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 2: just study after study, yeah, like hitting hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I want to say, like one of those
Speaker 3: studies too, like when all the concussion stuff came out
Speaker 3: to the movie and everything, it was still like another
Speaker 3: study that came out that like, you know, ninety something
Speaker 3: percent of the NFL players had like CTE, like the
Speaker 3: ones the brains that got to work on, and it
Speaker 3: was still like ninety something percent of like lower ninety
Speaker 3: percent of like high school players. They got their brain
Speaker 3: examined on figured out that they had some sort of
Speaker 3: ct So it's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you just hit it. Yeah, you get it.
Speaker 1: You like, yeah, you just like you're gonna get see,
Speaker 1: Like that's it's a game with your head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's a big part of it. It's football.
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Speaker 1: Well, I so I grew up. Yeah, I mean, we
Speaker 1: gotta have to be so football. While we were just
Speaker 1: talking about uh because I got I was just at
Speaker 1: Vandy and uh walking on their field, and so I
Speaker 1: grew so growing up.
Speaker 2: We didn't before the Titans came. Uh, we didn't have.
Speaker 1: All we had was Vandy and some people that grew
Speaker 1: up a Tennessee vall fan or Vannerable fan and then
Speaker 1: uh so I'm a diehard Vandy fan and watching games
Speaker 1: there that I saw some of the most amazing stuff
Speaker 1: Vandy football in a bad way. We always were just
Speaker 1: we I mean I was just talking about it today.
Speaker 1: I was I showed them. Remember we were playing Georgia,
Speaker 1: like this is like ninety five, ninety six seven something
Speaker 1: like that, and we're playing Georgia.
Speaker 2: Georgia is like seventh of the country.
Speaker 1: We're winning seven to nothing in the fourth quarter, and
Speaker 1: so like when we're not ranked, and I.
Speaker 3: Thought you were gonna say the first quarter, we're winning
Speaker 3: nothing the first Yeah, we're like, all right, we.
Speaker 2: Got them, we got them on the ropes.
Speaker 1: Uh. But I remember we ran a fake punt on
Speaker 1: our own thirty yard line and we ran it, not
Speaker 1: to like the fullback to the punter. They gave him
Speaker 1: the ball and then he ran got tackled immediately, I
Speaker 1: mean just and then they Georgia scored very quickly and
Speaker 1: then they just won.
Speaker 2: I've seen this also.
Speaker 1: We were we we played l s U one year
Speaker 1: and we score with ten seconds left, seven to six.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go for two.
Speaker 1: Whatoody wouldenhoffer was the coach, and uh, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: for two. LSU's ranked, and so we're like, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go for it because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: This would be big for us.
Speaker 1: Uh, we get two delay game penalties and then have
Speaker 1: to and then get the extra point blocked and we
Speaker 1: lose seven to six. And I mean that's just like
Speaker 1: the extra point block. Dude, we're kicking from the fifty.
Speaker 1: I mean like I didn't even make it. It's like
Speaker 1: I don't know, and we're just sitting there as a
Speaker 1: fan and you're like, how do you what happened? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know how much time you not only the first
Speaker 1: leg game is whatever, but used all of that time
Speaker 1: and then it takes time for the ref to throw
Speaker 1: the flag call it, and then you still have another
Speaker 1: what thirty seconds yeah, and you still and then at
Speaker 1: the next day in the paper. Uh, just back when
Speaker 1: you had to read the paper to see what they're
Speaker 1: going to say, and they said, You're like, what were
Speaker 1: they going to do? And they go, we were going
Speaker 1: to run the same play, which is the worst thing
Speaker 1: to hear.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like they were You're like, what we are
Speaker 2: going to do?
Speaker 1: Like when we were about to draw something up crazy,
Speaker 1: They're like, nah, we're going to do the same thing.
Speaker 2: What were you all talking about over there?
Speaker 1: You know like that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, it's uh.
Speaker 2: So it's been but I'm excited about Vanderbilt.
Speaker 1: Now we have a we got a new coach, h
Speaker 1: Clark Lee, you know, pretty pumped about him, and uh
Speaker 1: he's putting pretty interesting staff together and so hopefully and
Speaker 1: it seems like Vandy is investing in their sports, which
Speaker 1: is it's always.
Speaker 2: The biggest thing.
Speaker 3: It's like getting the athletic department, uh, or not the
Speaker 3: athletic department, but the school to invest in like the
Speaker 3: athletic department and invest in sports because like me, it's
Speaker 3: so the five years I was at in Nebraska, I
Speaker 3: played in Nebraska. My strength staff that was there that
Speaker 3: I know very well was the strip was is a
Speaker 3: strength staff at Vandy. Yeah, so the past few years
Speaker 3: I trained, I trained at Vandy all the time, so
Speaker 3: I was just around, you know, just the culture of
Speaker 3: Vanderbilt and just how different it was from being in Nebraska.
Speaker 3: Like kids would have to like, uh, the strength coach
Speaker 3: stops and shout Outdobson, he would you know. I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 3: why isn't that dude getting in trouble for you know,
Speaker 3: not showing up on time because I'm thinking about all
Speaker 3: the ship we had to do when we were late or anything.
Speaker 3: And he's like, Bro, you know, it's different here because
Speaker 3: kids are coming from class like academics.
Speaker 2: Here is just a whole different ballgame.
Speaker 3: Like you know, in Nebraska, you would have, you know,
Speaker 3: your advisors and counselors and stuff like that help you
Speaker 3: pick your classes, Like you wouldn't have to be present
Speaker 3: to pick your classes, like they would already pick them
Speaker 3: for you. Like kids at Vandy would have to leave
Speaker 3: in the middle of like workouts because there's a window
Speaker 3: that they have to be at to get in when
Speaker 3: the when the window opens to get in certain classes,
Speaker 3: and the athletes themselves have to be there to do that.
Speaker 3: He's like, and during finals weeks, like guys actually lose
Speaker 3: a shit ton of weight because people are stressed and
Speaker 3: they're just up all the time steting for finals. Because
Speaker 3: it's such an academically successful school. Way different from Nebraska. No,
Speaker 3: I'm not knocking Nebraska, but it's just everywhere. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: different than everywhere. Yeah, everywhere. Bro. He's like, you know,
Speaker 3: the criteria to get in, like trying to get walk
Speaker 3: ons in and just recruiting, Like it's just a different
Speaker 3: ball game. Did you grow up a Nebraska fan? No,
Speaker 3: I was more of like a Notre Dame fan. I
Speaker 3: went to Nebraska because of a Bo Polini and the
Speaker 3: staff that he had in Nebraska. Tom Olsmore had came
Speaker 3: to the school. Everyone was going crazy about tom Osware.
Speaker 3: I didn't necessarily know exactly who he was because I
Speaker 3: was younger, but I'm having like all my old teachers,
Speaker 3: they're like running down the hall to try to get
Speaker 3: a picture with him. But he visited and then like
Speaker 3: I visited the staff and stuff and absolutely loved the
Speaker 3: facilities at Nebraska, and that's why I ended up going
Speaker 3: to Nebraska. But that was a strength staff I had,
Speaker 3: and it was it's just a way different world.
Speaker 2: Than like a world at Vanderbilt football.
Speaker 1: I remember Nebraska was always uh it was crazy because
Speaker 1: I mean uh, I mean when they were they were
Speaker 1: so good then. I mean it was and I really
Speaker 1: they were. That's the kind of my first awareness nineties
Speaker 1: would have been, like you kind of start paying attention
Speaker 1: to sports more and kind of remember stuff more. And
Speaker 1: so I mean my first been to Nebraska. To me,
Speaker 1: Nebraska is always look at them as the most dominant
Speaker 1: team in the country, like yeah, because they were there
Speaker 1: back then. And it is crazy to see kids because
Speaker 1: you know, you look at Vanderbilt, there's kids that so
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt when Franklin was there, we had we won nine
Speaker 1: games and we went to Bowls every year right right
Speaker 1: the baseball team started getting good and Tennessee was the
Speaker 1: volunteers were down. So there's a lot of kids, like
Speaker 1: my friends' kids that grew up kind of thinking Vanderbilt
Speaker 1: was the better school versus when I grew up, it
Speaker 1: was like we were get crushed, Like Tennessee would beat
Speaker 1: us sixty years.
Speaker 3: Manning Batman, I mean them in the nineties were just
Speaker 3: always there with Nebraska in Miami.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, Ohio State's always been there, but yeah,
Speaker 1: the Nebraska like Miami, Yeah, exactly, and so it's just
Speaker 1: a different It's interesting to see the perspectives that people
Speaker 1: go through with, you know, volunteers who not a I'm
Speaker 1: not a fan of, but they they were, I mean
Speaker 1: they were so dominant.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in there being in the SEC too. Like
Speaker 3: we we haven't got anybody on here yet that is
Speaker 3: admitted to it. But you know, them Southern, them good ones.
Speaker 3: They're they're paying kids. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 3: there ain't no funes coming out of paying anybody. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there nouns coming out of vain.
Speaker 2: I wish they would. Yeah, that'd be a huge help.
Speaker 3: We had Derek on yes, and I was trying to
Speaker 3: get them like we need some sanctions again Alabama right now,
Speaker 3: Like you know, how much would they pay you coming
Speaker 3: out of high school?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Because anytime you see an Alabama player we were talking
Speaker 3: in our locker rooms and stuff, and anywhere you go
Speaker 3: and there's an Alabama player, the question of them is
Speaker 3: usually like how many natty?
Speaker 2: How many Natties did you win when you were at Bama?
Speaker 3: And some guys will be at two and be like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're a part of the trash Alabama, like the other
Speaker 3: Alabama guys who won like four Yeah, and you're just
Speaker 3: kind of sitting there like, you know, we went to
Speaker 3: the Big ten Championship in a Big twelve championship.
Speaker 2: You know you'd be lost both.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we got the Motor City Bowl. That's what
Speaker 1: Van D's just like if we almost won the MotorCity Bowl.
Speaker 2: We had.
Speaker 1: Uh. The first ball game I went to was at
Speaker 1: h Vandy. We played Boston College and the Music City Bowl.
Speaker 1: And I've told a joke about that because I got
Speaker 1: I went or had tickets for Vandy and I went
Speaker 1: in and she ripped my tickets and I had to
Speaker 1: go in the game. I mean a full two to
Speaker 1: three hours before the game starts, because like if you
Speaker 1: once they rip your ticket, you have to go in.
Speaker 1: And I was just trying to grab my ticket. Then
Speaker 1: we're gonna go Telgate, and uh, I.
Speaker 2: Had to go in. Dude, no one was even the player.
Speaker 1: We're still in jeans, like they were not even you
Speaker 1: weren't even getting ready.
Speaker 2: For the game. Like that's how early it was.
Speaker 1: And I remember the clock was at ninety minutes and
Speaker 1: it didn't even it wasn't even started yet.
Speaker 2: Oh you're just looking at that.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm I was the only one in
Speaker 1: the stadium. I just walked around the stadium. It's ain't open,
Speaker 1: and I just my friends are like out tailgating, like
Speaker 1: where are you at. I'm like, I'm already in here,
Speaker 1: like out here it was great in here, dude, I
Speaker 1: just walked in. The concession stands are not open. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was brutal, but we had we've Vandy won that.
Speaker 1: But our punter was MVP. First two Bowl games we
Speaker 1: had in twenty years, our punter was the MVP of
Speaker 1: both those.
Speaker 2: Guys, how's the punter of the MVP?
Speaker 1: Just because as we do, man, as we bring to
Speaker 1: the table, you know, like you don't understand we need
Speaker 1: a good punter and it matters. It's like Brett Kerns,
Speaker 1: Like Bret the punter really helps out a lot.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: He's a stud man. Yeah, Brett is a stud punter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, punters definitely help out. I'm just thinking like
Speaker 3: if they if they couldn't score, like, what, how's the
Speaker 3: punter of the MVP? They just dropping him inside the.
Speaker 1: I've liked that just just yeah, keep it on, back,
Speaker 1: keep it on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no one else really brought enough to the table.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: I guess, punter, did you you? You never answered, But
Speaker 3: how did you end up getting in New York?
Speaker 2: Oh? So I moved to Chicago first. So I was.
Speaker 1: I was just doing whatever job. I read water meters
Speaker 1: in Mount Juliet here like.
Speaker 2: I was, really I was. I just worked what you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: Go to college. Uh, So I just was doing whatever job.
Speaker 1: I had a friend, uh, my buddy Michael, and he
Speaker 1: wanted to move.
Speaker 2: He wanted to go to Second City in Chicago.
Speaker 1: So moved to Chicago first, and then I did some
Speaker 1: Second City, which is the improv and that's where like
Speaker 1: Chris Farley and all them came out of.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I just did a little bit of that, nothing at all,
Speaker 1: And I didn't really like improv. I wanted to do
Speaker 1: stand up, so I started doing stand up there and
Speaker 1: then I.
Speaker 2: Moved to New York after like two years.
Speaker 1: Uh. There's a great uh documentary Seinfeld called Comedian I
Speaker 1: believe it's on Netflix, and it's him built his new act.
Speaker 1: This was right after his show ended and he taped
Speaker 1: his special and he was talking about starting over and
Speaker 1: he had to build a new hour and he went
Speaker 1: around and uh, two different comedy clubs in New York.
Speaker 1: And so that came out when I was in Chicago
Speaker 1: and then so after that I knew. I was like,
Speaker 1: you got to go to New York. New York is
Speaker 1: like the place to be.
Speaker 3: Now at the time, are you working on your own
Speaker 3: like comedy stuff, like on the side of while you're working.
Speaker 1: Now, you're just doing I mean, you're doing open mics.
Speaker 1: So I mean I'll go to a bar like anybody
Speaker 1: could go and sign up and you go up on
Speaker 1: stage and so you're just you're there with you know,
Speaker 1: when you first start, you're you're there with guys that
Speaker 1: are really trying to.
Speaker 2: Be a comedian. You're there with like just a mom
Speaker 2: that wants to do it. People that lost bet.
Speaker 1: There's a big thing now people that lose fantasy drafts
Speaker 1: will go to open mics. So like their their punishment
Speaker 1: will be if you come in last place, you got
Speaker 1: to do stand up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I mean like it's you have a mix of
Speaker 1: just like it's just a joke to one person and
Speaker 1: another kid is like this is his dream, and so
Speaker 1: they're all going up on the same stage. But so
Speaker 1: you just start out doing that. So you go you're
Speaker 1: just doing you need to get up, You're trying to go.
Speaker 2: Up every day.
Speaker 1: And then when I moved to New York is what
Speaker 1: I went to. There was a club in New York
Speaker 1: called Boston Comedy Club, and I started there and that's
Speaker 1: where I was handing out those flyers and uh, you
Speaker 1: would go on stage. I mean I went on stage
Speaker 1: every day for I mean eight years. Like you just
Speaker 1: go up every day and you go on for at
Speaker 1: the beginning, it's five minutes and then eventually it gets
Speaker 1: to fifteen until you start headlining and traveling on the
Speaker 1: road and you start doing an hour. But at the
Speaker 1: beginning of that, Chappelle would come in all the time.
Speaker 1: This is when Chappelle's show was on, right before right
Speaker 1: when you quit, you know, right before that, he would
Speaker 1: come down. I would see him every I mean he
Speaker 1: come down every night, like ivery taped, you know, and
Speaker 1: we'd have we'd have eight people in the show. Like
Speaker 1: That's the thing that makes you good in New York
Speaker 1: is you know, if you go to Zany's here in
Speaker 1: Nashville or any club using this, there's there's forty people
Speaker 1: there at the minimum, you know, usually even one hundred,
Speaker 1: two hundred, three hundred if it's sold out.
Speaker 2: So the shows are very good.
Speaker 1: It's people that are not as good can do good
Speaker 1: just because people are happy to be in the room
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, this guy's up there telling jokes
Speaker 1: and it's a fun situation. But in New York you
Speaker 1: would go up and you'd have people in the shows
Speaker 1: that you would have to talk into coming and you'd
Speaker 1: be free, so you'd like, just come check this show out.
Speaker 1: And then they're like all right, and they come in
Speaker 1: there and you're in front of people that don't speak English.
Speaker 2: Sometimes. I mean I've went on stage one night and most.
Speaker 1: Of the crowd doesn't speak English and they want to
Speaker 1: go to the show just because they wanted New York
Speaker 1: comedy experience, right, But you're like, don't come dude, Like
Speaker 1: they don't.
Speaker 2: You go up, you start telling your jokes and you're
Speaker 2: like what is wrong with this? You get no laughs
Speaker 2: and you're just like does he might speak English?
Speaker 1: And I mean nobody they're like no, Like nobody even
Speaker 1: understands that.
Speaker 2: Have you asked that on the mic?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, you're like, who doesn't really speak English,
Speaker 1: and like everybody just the whole room collapse, or you're
Speaker 1: like you're like, ah, boy, this is gonna be brutal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and you got to do fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: So but being in those situations are what helps you
Speaker 1: because you know how to you know, you know how
Speaker 1: to talk where it's I mean it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: Like I'm sitting here like yo that I can't imagine
Speaker 3: every day, say you string on a few bad days
Speaker 3: or a few days where you're just not that people
Speaker 3: are laughing, like they're laughing at the other people, and
Speaker 3: you just got to continue to Oh, I mean in.
Speaker 1: The room we were I remember being on stage because
Speaker 1: like you would just be at a bar. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of times some would be comedy clubs, so
Speaker 1: people actually know what they're doing. Sometimes at a bar,
Speaker 1: you would go into the bar and like downstairs, like
Speaker 1: we got a comedy show down there in the bar,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh okay, and then people just kind
Speaker 1: of they were like going to the bar and now
Speaker 1: they're sitting in a comedy show. And I performed for
Speaker 1: one guy once, just him. He didn't leave, and I
Speaker 1: asked him to ask him to leave in the microphone.
Speaker 1: I go, you should just we shouldn't do this, and
Speaker 1: he was like it's fine. I was like, it's not,
Speaker 1: it's not fine. And then you gotta stay up here
Speaker 1: if it's fine. Two people, four people, I mean four people,
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot, four people in a room. And
Speaker 1: that was like, you would do it to keep the
Speaker 1: show going because people are outside, other comics are outside
Speaker 1: trying to get more people in, so you're trying to
Speaker 1: be like trying to get more people in. So you're like,
Speaker 1: someone's got to go up so we don't lose these
Speaker 1: four people. Because once these four people, if they start
Speaker 1: looking around realizing you know this, these comics are probably
Speaker 1: stink dude, Like, if no one's here, this show can't
Speaker 1: be good. Yeah, So you're trying to get on. You're
Speaker 1: trying to keep to trap them basically in the room
Speaker 1: before they figure out that, yeah, they shouldn't be there.
Speaker 1: This is not a good situation. And so you would
Speaker 1: go up and you're talking for the four people and
Speaker 1: then and then two more people come in and six people,
Speaker 1: eight people, I mean, you've got it for eight people.
Speaker 1: You were like, You're like, I made it like eight people.
Speaker 1: It was like unbelievable. You've been a comedy in the know.
Speaker 1: You're like, You're like, it's someone filmed this. I need
Speaker 1: to get this is huge, dude. And but being in
Speaker 1: those situations where that's why I think the best comics
Speaker 1: come out of New York. The ones that learn how
Speaker 1: to be a comic in New York are the best
Speaker 1: by far to me, because they're just in. It's just
Speaker 1: it's much more of a grind. It's way more competitive.
Speaker 1: Everybody's competing for all the spots. Not everybody can get
Speaker 1: on stage, and you just have to be better than
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and you have to keep performing
Speaker 1: a lot of bad situations. I mean I remember one.
Speaker 1: This one place is called Village Lantern in the village
Speaker 1: in New York.
Speaker 2: And so I'm on.
Speaker 1: Stage and there's just a two couples that are together,
Speaker 1: So two guys, two girls, and they're sitting in the front,
Speaker 1: no one else in the room, and I'm on stage
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of I gotta keep talking to keep
Speaker 1: them there until we can get some more people in.
Speaker 1: So it feels like a show. Yeah, And then the girl,
Speaker 1: the girl just gets up. The two girls get up
Speaker 1: and just stand next to me and they just take
Speaker 1: a picture like I'm on stage. The I mean, the
Speaker 1: you're on stage performing, you know, if you're doing your thing,
Speaker 1: and they just got up as if I was just
Speaker 1: a sign like and took it.
Speaker 2: It's the least respect.
Speaker 1: I've ever been shown in my life to go just
Speaker 1: in the middle of a joke. They just stand there
Speaker 1: like that's how they go, well, this guy's not this
Speaker 1: is not a real thing. And they just took a
Speaker 1: picture and then I think went to the bathroom.
Speaker 2: And then left.
Speaker 1: That was it, Like they just it didn't and it
Speaker 1: didn't even face it like.
Speaker 3: You just imagine nowadays too, like somebody just takes a
Speaker 3: selfie and you're just kind.
Speaker 2: Of yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: On stage, yeah, I mean because there's and there's no bouncers,
Speaker 1: no one's stopping any of this stuff. I mean, you
Speaker 1: get fights breakout like there's you know, I had a
Speaker 1: fight breakout when I was in Tampa once in the
Speaker 1: back all I see, because this was when I was
Speaker 1: at a point where it was right before my Tennessee
Speaker 1: Kids special came out, so I was having.
Speaker 2: People show up for me.
Speaker 1: I would have I would say it'd be seventy five
Speaker 1: percent of the crowd is there because they know who
Speaker 1: I am, but twenty five percent is there just because
Speaker 1: they got free tickets to a comedy club. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: those those don't really mix good together because these other
Speaker 1: people are excited to see you and they want to
Speaker 1: watch the show, and the other people could care less
Speaker 1: I'm going to a bar. Oh, there's a guy on
Speaker 1: stage whatever, And so they would get in a fight.
Speaker 1: I remember I was on stage and all I see
Speaker 1: in the back, I just see a hand, just go
Speaker 1: like that, and then just a brawl breaks out in
Speaker 1: the very back of the room. How'd you handle it?
Speaker 1: And I was in the middle of it, dude. I
Speaker 1: was like, you say, you have to do an hour.
Speaker 1: I'm like thirty minutes in, you know, if it's if
Speaker 1: I'm at forty forty five even you're like, all right,
Speaker 1: good night, Like that's' I gotta keep going. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so I and not everybody could see what's going on,
Speaker 1: so I just kind of, you know, describe what was happening.
Speaker 2: I was like, that guy hit that guy, and.
Speaker 1: Then you just you just talk about it's one of
Speaker 1: those you're just in this situation. There's no really preparation
Speaker 1: for it. You just the preparation is all the years
Speaker 1: of doing bad shows that you just know that you
Speaker 1: can handle it. And I told every other crowd that week,
Speaker 1: I was like, if you just don't fight, you will
Speaker 1: be better than the Thursday night crowd. If that's all
Speaker 1: you could do a lot, you could yell out, you
Speaker 1: can actually throw some to that mean, if you don't
Speaker 1: fight each other, you're gonna be better than that Thursday
Speaker 1: night craw each other. What was what was your first
Speaker 1: time on stage? Like it was that I did this comedy,
Speaker 1: this classical comedy college. I have it on VHS. My
Speaker 1: first time I had a chin beard. That was when
Speaker 1: chin beards were a lot cooler than they are now.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know you had to get made fun
Speaker 1: of if someone saw, but now it would be you know,
Speaker 1: it was like it was like pretty like whoa, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's new money over here. So that's that's where I
Speaker 1: will like white trash like Nashville Wildlife come out where
Speaker 1: you live Antioch. So there I went on stage and
Speaker 1: usually your first times are actually okay because you get
Speaker 1: friends go.
Speaker 2: So like if you went and go, did did stand
Speaker 2: up right? Now?
Speaker 1: You would have friends come, they're gonna be rooting for you.
Speaker 1: They want you to do good, so they're gonna laugh
Speaker 1: at your jokes more they know you.
Speaker 2: So usually your first time is.
Speaker 1: Kind of okay, and then you're like, all right, this
Speaker 1: is the man, I'm not bad at this. But it's
Speaker 1: when you go up with no one there, no one
Speaker 1: supporting you, that's the real. That's the real, Like were
Speaker 1: you Actually, you're probably more numberus for that than you
Speaker 1: were when you were gonna be in front of your friends.
Speaker 2: The first time.
Speaker 1: I used to always look down, so I had a
Speaker 1: big problem with that. I would never really look up
Speaker 1: at the crowd. And I still don't like looking at
Speaker 1: the audience in the eyes. Yeah, I kind of. I
Speaker 1: just look like right above their head. It makes it
Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable, like when you when you lock eyes with
Speaker 1: someone on stage. Dude, it's like you just feel like,
Speaker 1: do they know I'm looking at it? You know, and
Speaker 1: you're just like and I because I remember comics used
Speaker 1: to always come off stage and be like, dude, you
Speaker 1: see that chick in the front row shoes unbelievable. And
Speaker 1: I would be like, I didn't see anybody like because
Speaker 1: I was looking I never understood like all these comics
Speaker 1: that was like, you see, dude, these two on the
Speaker 1: two on the right, the hottest chick service in my life.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I didn't even.
Speaker 1: Know where were these people at, Like I didn't look
Speaker 1: at nobody. Uh, but so you would when you first go.
Speaker 1: I would always look down a lot, never really look up.
Speaker 1: And then so you have to then like kind of
Speaker 1: teach yourself to like, I gotta look up. I gotta
Speaker 1: be looking at people and uh, you know, because that
Speaker 1: really matters. And uh so you slowly just build up.
Speaker 1: But you know the first time, it's I mean, it's tough, man.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the first I remember I would want
Speaker 1: because I knew. I was like, well, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to do this show because
Speaker 1: I was so scared to go talk in front of
Speaker 1: everybody and they uh. And I remember thinking I was like, God,
Speaker 1: if just the building would burn down, you know, because
Speaker 1: then I feel like they I would be like I
Speaker 1: tried to go, but.
Speaker 2: The building was on fun helmet. Yeah, yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: want to get in there. I trust me, dude. I
Speaker 2: want you. You guys look like you having so many fun.
Speaker 1: But Uh, god's got a bad helmet. My parents bought
Speaker 1: me a helmet with the worst because my parents had
Speaker 1: no money, and so I got like the one bar
Speaker 1: down and one bar across helmet. Oh that doesn't help either,
Speaker 1: when you just look like a loser.
Speaker 2: You just got like a.
Speaker 1: Old fullback helmet weigh eighty four pounds. The helmet's half.
Speaker 1: All I wanted was like that one. I still look
Speaker 1: at that helmet, uh and just think that's such. That's
Speaker 1: all I wanted. That's I would have probably stayed in football.
Speaker 1: You probably would have gotten buled the ring if you
Speaker 1: would had. If I would just give me a good
Speaker 1: that one was too expensive, so they bought me the
Speaker 1: worst one. So yeah, I don't remember what we're talking about,
Speaker 1: but I think it was, Uh you're talking about your
Speaker 1: first time, like how nervous you were and you would
Speaker 1: hope the building was burnt down. Yeah that is you
Speaker 1: know you ever think about that like I was, if
Speaker 1: you were tired driving to work. A guy used to
Speaker 1: have to go work when I worked regular jobs at
Speaker 1: like seven am, And I'm like, if I could just
Speaker 1: get in just a little wreck, like not much of
Speaker 1: a wreck, just enough that I can sleep in just
Speaker 1: a fender bender that I can sleep in the car
Speaker 1: and I could be like I got an wreck this morning, dude,
Speaker 1: Like it's just so I could have a good excuse.
Speaker 1: You just want something to happen. And that's I remember
Speaker 1: that a lot, like just being like I don't want
Speaker 1: to go Yeah, what's.
Speaker 2: The what's the worst you've bombed? Uh? You know one
Speaker 2: of them I talked about in this news special coming up?
Speaker 1: But uh, another one that's gonna come out on Netflix. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when does this come out?
Speaker 2: This is gonna come out in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, after Valentine's Day? After this, when's your when's your special?
Speaker 2: Come out? March eighteenth? We can make it the week
Speaker 2: after that.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well it's got to be if I'm not
Speaker 1: announcing my special till February sixteenth, So after February sixteenth,
Speaker 1: they can come out whenever. Okay, cool, we're solid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's when I got to announce it. Uh, but
Speaker 1: March eighteenth is the next special called the Greatest Average American,
Speaker 1: because that's what I think I am.
Speaker 2: I love that, dude.
Speaker 1: I think I'm the greatest. I'm the most average American
Speaker 1: and I'm but I'm.
Speaker 2: The greatest at it.
Speaker 1: I go to all I guess say, I always go
Speaker 1: to the nicest apple weeks. I can always have a
Speaker 1: good gaugey. I messed with Nate, Dude, I messed with you.
Speaker 1: I get I have a good gauge of when shows
Speaker 1: are going to get canceled because I and if I
Speaker 1: if I'm like not on board, I'm like then most
Speaker 1: of America's not. I have a very American taste, Like
Speaker 1: you can just feel it. You're like, it's not going good, dude,
Speaker 1: Like y'all gotta you gotta wrap it up.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: But so in this specially, I talked about I did
Speaker 1: a show for this private gig that I did, and
Speaker 1: I bought him for an hour. And this is a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, so like I'm for an entire hour,
Speaker 1: the whole hour, and I mean I'm doing I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I'm like successful comedian. Like at
Speaker 1: the time, I'm like, dude, I'm not bad, like yeah,
Speaker 1: And I remember just being up there and I was like,
Speaker 1: I guess maybe I'm bad now, you know, like maybe
Speaker 1: just lose it like that. Uh, And I asked I
Speaker 1: told the guy afterwards, like I'm sorry, and uh then
Speaker 1: he told me that most most everybody there did not
Speaker 1: speak English. So all it was a Christmas party and
Speaker 1: all his employees, uh do they don't speak English? And
Speaker 1: he never gave told me that until afterwards. And I mean,
Speaker 1: with that entire hour, you're just like, dude, it's maybe I'm.
Speaker 3: Past my prime. Oh about probab it's not forty. Maybe
Speaker 3: I'm just going down. Yeah, it's like my peak. My
Speaker 3: my peak was the day before and I'm already down.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh it was. It was.
Speaker 1: I mean for one hour of just you know, you're
Speaker 1: thinking about a lot up there, you know, and you're yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: your material, you get through your material a lot quicker.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: But one of the first bombings that I remember filling, Uh,
Speaker 1: I bombed at that Boston comedy club.
Speaker 2: Everybody was doing good one night. Everybody was like going
Speaker 2: on stage, and.
Speaker 1: I remember this one comic went up and I didn't
Speaker 1: think they were that good, and they did good, and
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, I'm going to murder when I
Speaker 1: go on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I went up and bombed so hard,
Speaker 2: and uh, I remember I changed my shirt.
Speaker 1: I never wore that shirt again because I blame I thought, well,
Speaker 1: that shirt had something to do. Yeah, I had a
Speaker 1: button down and I think I tucked it in. I
Speaker 1: like tucking my shirt in. I'm a big fan. I
Speaker 1: wish you would come back and be more popular than
Speaker 1: it is. But I remember I had this green button
Speaker 1: down shirt and I got rid of it and I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm never wearing that again. Bet that had
Speaker 1: that had to do something. I didn't blame me. I
Speaker 1: blamed just the outfit.
Speaker 3: Well, it goes through your mind, like when you bomb
Speaker 3: something like that, like.
Speaker 2: Sleepover, you're just kind of like fuck.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, you don't do it as much as
Speaker 1: everybody says says you do. There there are people that
Speaker 1: do bomb that much. Uh, but I think those people
Speaker 1: don't ever there. They never do good, so they don't
Speaker 1: know what good sounds like because I've seen people bomb
Speaker 1: where when they got off stage, I went to go talk,
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, you know, hey man, this
Speaker 1: crowd kind of stinks like sometimes it's the crowd, Like
Speaker 1: the crowd stinks like it's rowdy or they're not they're talking,
Speaker 1: So that one you don't really care about because you're like, this.
Speaker 2: Is not my fault.
Speaker 1: But when they I've seen people come off and like
Speaker 1: before I could, I'll be about to say to him, Yo,
Speaker 1: don't worry, but this crowd stinks. And I remember this
Speaker 1: kid he goes, uh, he goes, that's a pretty good set.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you, that was the worst set.
Speaker 2: And there's just no awareness.
Speaker 1: I realized at that moment, Oh, he doesn't know what
Speaker 1: it sounds like to do good, like up there. You
Speaker 1: it's different when you really murder on stage. It's unbelievable, man,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's people are losing their mind. You
Speaker 1: can hear people catching their breath. It's it's the most
Speaker 1: amazing sound ever. And if you but if you don't
Speaker 1: ever hear that, then you don't know. Like to him,
Speaker 1: that sounded great what he just got from them, it
Speaker 1: was like a good set. And that was a learning
Speaker 1: moment that I remember, Oh, you need to learn what
Speaker 1: it sounds like to be good, so you're self aware
Speaker 1: enough to then know when it's not going good.
Speaker 3: Have you ever had the correct a comic like was
Speaker 3: that somebody you? What did you think? And you're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're a straight man.
Speaker 2: Uh no, I know you lie to them all.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, dude, that was great, Like I thought
Speaker 1: it was great, and they're like, no, I've had a
Speaker 1: couple where I've seen, uh, this one club in Edmonton, Canada,
Speaker 1: and they this guy, I think he does it on purpose,
Speaker 1: but he would put a new comic up in uh.
Speaker 1: He put a new comic on stage each in front
Speaker 1: of a like a pat crowd on a weekend. And
Speaker 1: this girl went up and she bombed so hard, I
Speaker 1: mean nothing, zero laughs. So it's someone talking to a
Speaker 1: microphone for five minutes and there's no reaction, but there's
Speaker 1: pauses for reactions. So she like finished a joke like
Speaker 1: I went on the bus and then all right, and
Speaker 1: then you know, it's just that dude for five minutes.
Speaker 2: It's unreal.
Speaker 1: And she gets off and when she gets off, he
Speaker 1: plays another one. Bites the Dust is the song he plays,
Speaker 1: and I mean, I'm like this poor girl and she
Speaker 1: and they stay, they have to kind of stay for
Speaker 1: the show, so they just go sit and then she
Speaker 1: set at the table and cried, and I went and
Speaker 1: talked to her, and you just kind of I just
Speaker 1: made fun of the situation to try to lighten the
Speaker 1: mood and just be like it's you know, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go up so many more times that you
Speaker 1: won't ever forget it, But that one was Some of
Speaker 1: those are tough to see. I had another girl that
Speaker 1: once did it set in Philadelphia, very nice girl.
Speaker 2: And it was my fault. It sold out room Saturday night.
Speaker 1: The two comics on my host in the middle act,
Speaker 1: they both murder, and this girl just did a guest set,
Speaker 1: so she's gonna do like five minutes. Yeah, and she
Speaker 1: goes up in same thing, dude, completely silent and the
Speaker 1: whole time, and then the guy goes on after and
Speaker 1: just murders. So you can't even be like, well, of
Speaker 1: this crowd's tough. You're like, this crowd is amazing. And
Speaker 1: then I remember she came back and she felt pretty
Speaker 1: bad and then she but she actually had to go
Speaker 1: sit She had a ticket to the show and then
Speaker 1: had to go sit out in the crowd, and I
Speaker 1: was like, you wanted to be like just go home,
Speaker 1: you know, like don't And can you imagine just having
Speaker 1: to walk back into that crowd and been like, excuse me,
Speaker 1: my seats over here and everybody's like, oh, that's up,
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: How was how would you say the Nashville scene is
Speaker 3: different than all the other comedy scenes you mentioned quite
Speaker 3: a bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nashville's Nashville scene is much better than it was
Speaker 1: when I first saw it. There's actually some really really
Speaker 1: good comics here and some young comics that are very
Speaker 1: funny and to me show that they want to do it.
Speaker 1: They seem obsessed with it and they want to go
Speaker 1: up as much as they can. And there's a lot
Speaker 1: of really really good comics and uh some female comics
Speaker 1: like you know, good diverse comics. Uh and so it's
Speaker 1: the national scene is great right now and uh so
Speaker 1: it's exciting to see that. And then New York scene
Speaker 1: is i mean still the New York seas I still
Speaker 1: think that's the best scene in the country. And that's
Speaker 1: you know, there's gonna be guys that you see in
Speaker 1: New York that are better than most famous comics, you know,
Speaker 1: because they're going up every night. They're doing it. It's
Speaker 1: like dog years in New York. I mean, I went
Speaker 1: up every night. If you live in Nashville, like you
Speaker 1: could go up. I mean, you can go up more
Speaker 1: now than you used to. But I mean, let's say
Speaker 1: you're going up three times a week. Why I would
Speaker 1: go up ten times a week and I did that
Speaker 1: for eight years, nine years. Like I'm gonna be a
Speaker 1: I got way more stage time, way more than anywhere
Speaker 1: in the country. So that's why those comics are gonna
Speaker 1: be the best comics. They've gone up triple what you've
Speaker 1: gone up.
Speaker 3: Man, That grind is interesting, dude, Like, I mean all
Speaker 3: those years just going up ten times a week, working
Speaker 3: on sets, like having to surpass, hanging out or like
Speaker 3: going on different Yeah, you're thinking about the grind like
Speaker 3: you're saying about how can I get more in?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I mean you just want where you're addicted to.
Speaker 1: You have to be obsessed with it. That's what you
Speaker 1: can't do it if you're not. You know, I remember
Speaker 1: people would have night jobs. They have jobs that you know,
Speaker 1: They're like, I got to work at night, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what do you do?
Speaker 2: You can't work at night.
Speaker 1: That's when you got to go up and try to
Speaker 1: even if you're not getting up, you got to go
Speaker 1: hang out at the comedy club and be around. And
Speaker 1: you need to see all these comics. You need to
Speaker 1: see people get good. You need to see you know.
Speaker 1: I was with A Z's and Sorry and Amy Schumer
Speaker 1: and like, so I saw we were all open micros
Speaker 1: and I saw them rise to the how big they are.
Speaker 2: You need to be able to see that stuff.
Speaker 1: You got to see people get to the top and
Speaker 1: that so you can at least see that there's a path,
Speaker 1: because otherwise it feels impossible. You know, it feels like, well,
Speaker 1: you know who am I am just a kid from Nashville, right,
Speaker 1: why would I get to do this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You feel like it's beneficial that guys like Theovonne and
Speaker 3: Josh Wolfe have moved to Nashville, Like is that going
Speaker 3: to change a change the scene a little bit?
Speaker 2: Because I guess where I'm coming from.
Speaker 3: You see, like the comedy Store, Like I follow those
Speaker 3: guys like Joe Rogan and all that, that circle of
Speaker 3: comedians where they're always doing sets of the Comedy Store.
Speaker 2: It seems like all those dudes go to the comedy Store.
Speaker 3: You feel like that kind of creates a culture for
Speaker 3: Nashville to where maybe you guys are going to zanies
Speaker 3: or how does that work in the comedy I mean,
Speaker 3: definitely it's been a huge help now the THEO and
Speaker 3: him are here because I've been back here like six
Speaker 3: years Steve Burne another comic.
Speaker 2: So a lot of real headliners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it helps the scene because then
Speaker 1: the younger comics actually get to see like real headlining
Speaker 1: comics every week and guys that are very good, guys
Speaker 1: that are going to go up and they're not really
Speaker 1: gonna bomb, They're just not like they've been doing comedy
Speaker 1: too long. And so it helps the scene. The new
Speaker 1: comics see that, and it makes people want to come out.
Speaker 1: We do shows that Zane where they do a new
Speaker 1: material night on Mondays and sometimes they do these all
Speaker 1: star shows and they're not announced with the lineup, but
Speaker 1: if we are in town, I went, uh Monday, I
Speaker 1: went last night where it was whatever night, Monday night. Uh,
Speaker 1: I went Monday night. Uh, you go work out to
Speaker 1: work out on my cause I gotta build a new
Speaker 1: material with a special coming out and trying to build
Speaker 1: this new hour.
Speaker 2: And so I've been there a lot.
Speaker 1: Deo's there a lot, like you know, sometimes there sometimes
Speaker 1: we're not, but them going that it gets then those
Speaker 1: younger companies are getting in front of a packed crime.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's that's a huge thing
Speaker 1: to get real stage time. Is what you're searching for.
Speaker 1: What helps build a scene. You got to get in
Speaker 1: front of a real audience because otherwise you're performing for
Speaker 1: other comics at open mics.
Speaker 3: Is there a couple like up and comers that you
Speaker 3: think will be on the scene one day?
Speaker 1: That? I mean, So, I have a podcast called Nate
Speaker 1: Land and that's with my Brian Bates and Aaron Weber
Speaker 1: and there Brian Bates has kind of been in New
Speaker 1: York for a little while now, I mean in Nashville.
Speaker 1: He's been doing it for like twelve years or something. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then Aaron would be a newer one. He's like,
Speaker 1: he's on Aaron Weber, he's been four year comic. I
Speaker 1: think he is, Uh, Dusty Slay he's been doing it
Speaker 1: a little bit longer, probably ten years, but his name's
Speaker 1: out starting to get around a little bit more. And uh,
Speaker 1: he's done some late night shows and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and he's very funny and he's probably the the top
Speaker 1: comic of the guys that are He's he's kind of
Speaker 1: really starting to headline and yeah, people are coming to
Speaker 1: see him.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then you got I mean, then the guys are
Speaker 1: some younger guys that are even year or two year
Speaker 1: comics that are you see it zis that are very
Speaker 1: very good and and you can go see them. You
Speaker 1: know that that Monday night, that New Material night is
Speaker 1: a night where you can see all those or any.
Speaker 2: That'd be cool. We should go to one of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all should come to one. Uh, they're very other.
Speaker 1: When I'm at one, I'll let you know and then
Speaker 1: I'll come out there.
Speaker 2: It's fun.
Speaker 1: That'd be awesome. Yeah, it's a good It's it's good
Speaker 1: to see him. And I think people are moving here
Speaker 1: to start comedy. That's a good sign nationals. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's one of the cities I like growing faster than
Speaker 1: I think be a Chicago here. Like, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: very biased to Nashville, obviously, but I don't think anything
Speaker 1: is better than Nashville right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the best city in the lountry.
Speaker 2: All right.
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