1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: So I wish I knew. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out twenty five. It's a little 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: bit harder than five and seven to come up with names. 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 3: Yo position group. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 4: When you look at this draft, what position group do 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 4: you feel. 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 5: As maybe the deepest. 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: That's a good question. 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: I mean there's there's depth at different parts throughout the draft, 10 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: at all positions. So I mean it's hard to pinpoint one, 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: again based on where you're picking. Like if you're at 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: a certain part of the draft, there may be a 13 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: run on four. 14 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: Or five players of that draft. So the depths, you know, 15 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: the top of the position, the top. 16 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: Of the draft at a certain position and it's it's gone, 17 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: and now there's no longer depth at at that position. 18 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: So I think there's position of value across all positions, 19 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: you know, throughout the pack the draft, just. 20 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: Depending on on on where you're picking. 21 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 2: But I'm not going to identify one being stronger than 22 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: the other, just where the value matches up with where 23 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: you have them on the board. 24 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 6: Maybe about the idea that this is an especially strong 25 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 6: draft in the first found and that teams don't have 26 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,279 Speaker 6: an exorbitant number of first rounders maybe compared to the past. 27 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I don't know where everybody else has people 28 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: on their board. I know that you know, we're going 29 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: through the process now of who may or may not 30 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: be there, and you know, we're pretty confident there will 31 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: be a player there. 32 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 7: That we like the first round grades. 33 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into how many first round 34 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: grades that we have. We have guys in the first 35 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: round that we like, and we're pretty confident that there 36 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: will be somebody there when we pick at twenty five 37 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: that will be happy with. 38 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 8: Do you look at the COVID kids who you're in 39 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 8: an extra year of eligibility? Does that help or hurt 40 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 8: this strap concerning some of those guys are now older prospects. 41 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, there are more players you know that when we're 42 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: going through it that are twenty four, twenty five years 43 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: old that you don't usually see that You see it 44 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: sometimes at certain schools, but. 45 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: There are more of those players. 46 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: But we look at you know, each individual case by 47 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: case basis. If you know, if there's an injury history 48 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: or there are small our school or whatever it may 49 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: be on the player, and then you know, does that 50 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: affect their age their position? 51 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 1: So we look on them on individual basis. 52 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: Rarely does that come into to play and you know, 53 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: the terrorist from draft in somebody. 54 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 7: You stand with with, Like, are you guys still negotiating. 55 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 9: All with them? 56 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: Not here at the moment. 57 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: No, said, nothing's changed since we talked whatever that was 58 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 2: three weeks ago, four weeks ago, that nothing's changed since 59 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: we talked at the owner's meetings about with Dexter. Yeah, 60 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: after I talked to Dexter's representatives this week we're in 61 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: you know, dialogue's good there. So yeah, I've talked to 62 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: him again. It's hard this time of year. We're we're 63 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: deep into the draft and the draft preps. So but yeah, 64 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: we've had good conversations with Dextor's representatives and you know, 65 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: we'll see where that stands here. 66 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: We move forward. 67 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: Do you have you know a next contract offer in 68 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: your head that you you know. 69 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get through the draft right now. 70 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: Again, we're my my focus right now is solely on that, So. 71 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: You know, there's no rush right now. 72 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: I just want to get through the draft and then 73 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: step back after that and you know, see what the 74 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 2: roster looks like and you know, go from there. 75 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: I just wanted to follow knowing that you've said on 76 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: the record, you want to get something done and you're negotiating. 77 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: Is it disappointing at all that Dexter chose not to 78 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 3: come here or you just are you fine with that 79 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: that you'd rather not be here than when when you're 80 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: going through this. 81 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: What was the quote? It's April seventeenth. 82 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: I'm not going to give you that, but no, I 83 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: mean it's a voluntary So yeah, if Dexter chooses not 84 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: to be here, that's that's his decision. Dexter knows how 85 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: we feel about him, and he knows he's important part 86 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: of the organization, and you know there's a business side 87 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: to it too, But these these you know, him showing 88 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: up for the off season program is his voluntary with you. 89 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 7: Guys had obviously had discussions with Sakwon previously and there 90 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 7: was numbers that kind of been widely reported. Free agency 91 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 7: seems to have changed the running back market dramatically. Does 92 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 7: that then alter your approach and how much you may 93 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 7: or may not be willing to devote to that position 94 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 7: in terms of finances? 95 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: No, again, I haven't really. You know, we had the 96 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: conversations with Saquon. It was known that we were going 97 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: to get to a certain point and then we were 98 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: going to move on and regroup at some other times. 99 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: So it was before free agency started. So no, that 100 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: that hasn't really affected anything that that we've talked about. 101 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: One year deal. Does that impact how you approach running 102 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: back in this draft? 103 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: No, Again, we're gonna there's players of all positions that 104 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: are in the mix at twenty five, and I'm not 105 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: going to rule any position out. 106 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 5: Joe, you have a pretty young team as it is. 107 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 5: Can you add, realistically add ten more at least rookies 108 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 5: to your roster or would you like to I don't know, 109 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 5: package some of those to move up so you have 110 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 5: less than ten picks, or trade a pick for a 111 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 5: veteran player rather than have ten more young guys on 112 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 5: an already young roster. 113 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question, and you know, we'll see 114 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: how the draft plays out. I mean, right now we 115 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: have ten so as we're going through it, if there's 116 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: somebody we want to move up for, you know, we 117 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: have some extra draft capital to do that. If we 118 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: want to move back and collect some we can do 119 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: that too. You know, again, there's you got to look 120 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: at the roster, not just today, but twenty twenty four 121 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. 122 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: You know it is who's coming up? 123 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: You know, again, financially, there's some players that are making 124 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: pretty good chunk of money on our team and some 125 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: contracts on the horizon potentially. So yeah, those young cost 126 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: controlled players for four years that can be contributors, you know, 127 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: whether it's a role on offense or defense. Uh, four 128 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: core special teams guys. So you know, I think it's 129 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: important to continue to build depth and competition, and that's 130 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: what we'll try to do with those picks. 131 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: Traded for, like a pick for a veteran guy like 132 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 5: you did with Waller. 133 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Is that something you're still working. 134 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: To Yeah, well yeah, we'll always pursue any type of 135 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 2: opportunity to better the roster, whether it's trade, drafts, late round, college, 136 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: free agency, whatever. 137 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 9: It is. 138 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: Definitely how long. 139 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 10: Important is it when you look at the roster and 140 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 10: the guys you might draft. Then you look at roster 141 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 10: duplication where you said, well, you know, for example, we 142 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 10: have a smaller slot receiver, we don't need to get 143 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 10: another one. We have you know, this kind of a 144 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 10: slot cornerback. 145 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 11: We don't need to get another one, you know, or 146 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 11: do you just say no. 147 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 10: No, we're gonna just get the guys in and we'll 148 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 10: figure it out. 149 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: There's a little bit of that on offense, you know, 150 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: I think Dave's that's that's one of his strengths, him 151 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 2: and Mike Kafka taking you know, the pieces that you 152 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: have and then trying to accentuate what they do best. 153 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: But we've had really good dialogue with the coaches this week. 154 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: We're still doing it. We did it all morning, certain 155 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: players and just going. 156 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: Through what their role and utilization will be on the 157 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: roster first down, second down, third, you know, what's their 158 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: fourth down value. So if there's any discrepancies or you know, 159 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: question from our part on what their role will be, 160 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: we try to clear the air now on that. So 161 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: you know, come draft day, we've had all these conversations 162 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: and if they're again they're a certain. 163 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: Value, how they'll be utilized. 164 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: So you know, they come in different size, shapes, speeds. 165 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: But we're going through all those conversations right now. 166 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 10: As far as like I mean, obviously you're not you know, 167 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 10: thirsty to get a left tackle, you know what I mean. 168 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 10: But you know, as far as like receivers and things 169 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 10: like that, there's a big group of them. Do you 170 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 10: look at all shapes and sizes and say, you know, 171 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 10: because you have a head coach who was known to 172 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 10: be able to move those guys in and out. So 173 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 10: is that somewhere when you say, look, we'll just bring 174 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 10: them all in and he'll. 175 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 11: Figure it out. 176 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: Yes. 177 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: And then I mean the offense has a very defined 178 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: plan on how they're going to utilize, you know, certain 179 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: positions in it makes it easy to go scott players 180 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: for them. So yeah, I mean we were again, we're 181 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: going through all those players that you're talking about, regardless 182 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: of position, regardless of what they look like physically, and 183 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: trying to figure out what their fit would be with 184 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: the team and what their role would be. 185 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 8: Joe, how much easier has it been for you this 186 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 8: year knowing that you had the coaches going out and 187 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 8: actually getting the pro days, whereas last year, you know, 188 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 8: Brian was still getting the staff together and maybe they 189 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 8: weren't able to get out as much. 190 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, coach coaches at a tremendous job. They're they're they're 191 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: big health, they're big part of the process. I think 192 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: it's important to you know, consensus build throughout the building. 193 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: And you know, again, when you draft a player if 194 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: the coaches don't want him to, you know, chance of 195 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: success a lot of times are slim. So you know, 196 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: we like to do our due diligence and all the 197 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: prospects and the more you can be around them, I think, 198 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: you know, it puts you at ease when you turn 199 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: in the card for those those prospects that you've been 200 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: around them a lot and. 201 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: You know exactly what you're getting with your investment. 202 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 7: What about with with your staff? 203 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 8: I mean again, you were just coming in, you were 204 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 8: just getting everything together, you were making changes. How much 205 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 8: more comfortable are you with the changes that you've made 206 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 8: and are they that much different than what you did 207 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 8: last year? 208 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? I know it's great. 209 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: You know, more time on task, going through more situations 210 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: with these some of the you know, the personnel, you 211 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: know where it's Brandon Brown, Tim McDonald, Dennis Hickey, Chris Rizzetti, 212 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: our pro director came in from from Miami. 213 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: So going through kind of. 214 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: A cycle, a personnel cycle, whether it was draft, free agency, 215 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: whatever it may be, you kind of get to know 216 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: strengths and weaknesses of your scouts. So yeah, again, after 217 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: going through it for a year, we're definitely, I definitely 218 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 2: feel more comfortable this year going into it than you know, 219 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: a year ago. 220 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 12: Going back to Buffalo for a second. In twenty twenty, 221 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 12: when you drafted Gabe Davis, what traits did you prioritize 222 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 12: and how did you project a fourth round receiver to 223 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 12: be a starter in the league. 224 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean with Gabe, it started with his makeup, 225 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: like he was off the charts as a as a 226 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: just the learns, the ability to move him around, his 227 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 2: work ethic, you know, he checked all those boxes and 228 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: he's a very productive, you know receiver at at Central Florida. 229 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: So again, that was the COVID draft. I remember where 230 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: I was that. I was in my basement when that happened. 231 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, again it's it's not always what you can 232 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: see on film. 233 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: And I think that's why we go and spend so 234 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: much time with these kids is try to figure out 235 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: what the makeup because when you get to this level, 236 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: everybody's good. What's gonna what's gonna give you the competitive advantage? 237 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: You know, what's a you know, why is a fourth 238 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: or fifth round player gonna make it? Is it their 239 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: work ethic, is their tireless pursuit of you know, being great? 240 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: Whatever it may be you try to identify those traits 241 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: through this process, whether it's bringing them in on thirty. 242 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Visits, going and seeing them. 243 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: You know, we talked a bunch of coaches this week 244 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: around the country with our head coaches, position coaches, coordinators 245 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: and just get as much information as you can on 246 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 2: you know, why is this kid get me successful? And 247 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: you know Gabe, Gabe was one of those players. 248 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 6: Building on them for a second. You spent a lot 249 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 6: of time with the top wide receivers in this draft, 250 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 6: your interactions with them, going to dinner with a whole 251 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 6: bunch of them. 252 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 13: I did, you did? 253 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 5: Uh? 254 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 6: So I'm curious, what have you learned about the top 255 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 6: of this wide receiver pass throughout this process in those interactions? 256 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: What have I learned? How am I supposed to answer that? 257 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: Jordan? Yeah, I mean it's a it's a good group 258 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: of receivers at the top of the draft, depending you know, 259 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: how you have them ranked. You know, everybody's got different 260 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: strengths and weaknesses. And again, I think there's a lot 261 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: of talented players in the draft. And it goes back 262 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: to what I was just saying with with Paths question, 263 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: is you know, identify what's going to separate those guys 264 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: from the path and and what makes them great Again, 265 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: there's every year, I think there's twenty plus receivers that 266 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: are drafted. How many truly go on to have you know, success, 267 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: And you know that's that's what we're trying to figure out. 268 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: You bring in for thirty visits and what's the value 269 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: of those two Yeah, it's some of its elimination. 270 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: Maybe hey, we need to confirm what we you know, 271 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: there's some uneasiness with a player, maybe we need to 272 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: confirm they're not a fit, or. 273 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: You know, how will they pick up our system? 274 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: Our offense is very complicated, or sometimes it can be 275 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: medical if they're non combined to get the medical. So, uh, 276 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: there's varying reasons for why we bring players in, but 277 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: again it's a it's a great opportunity, not just to 278 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: get them around myself and day ball on the coaches, 279 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: but the rest of our support staff, whether it's training staff, 280 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: strength staff, nutrition, you know, whatever it may be, it's 281 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 2: just good to be around these players as much as can. 282 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 14: You've obviously talked a lot about the alignment the for 283 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 14: a full year with the coaches and scouts and the vision, 284 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 14: how different is your board this year because of that 285 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 14: alignment than maybe a year ago where you didn't have 286 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 14: that one hundred percent alignment. Do you think about that 287 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 14: and how much does that shape way you guys are 288 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 14: going forward? 289 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wouldn't say that we weren't aligned a 290 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: year ago. It was just trying to you know, get 291 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 2: a you know, a grasp on how the players were 292 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: going to be. 293 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: Utilized in in Wink system. So I wouldn't say we 294 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: weren't aligned. 295 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: We ended up you know, there's a consensus building, but 296 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: there's definitely after going through a full season in a 297 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: training camp and you know, seeing it applied how he's 298 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: going to. 299 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: Utilize players, there's a better comfort level. 300 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: Not just myself, but even Daves Davis had never worked 301 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 2: with Wink either, as we're going through it how he's 302 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: going to utilize players first down, second down, third down. 303 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's definitely a better comfort level this year. 304 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: Uh. 305 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't say we weren't necessarily lying last year. 306 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 307 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 14: I didn't mean that necessarily. I just meant you've talked 308 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 14: about Link and just knowing what Wink wants and how 309 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 14: that changes maybe the way you scout players go and 310 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 14: you'll see. So for you as a as a scout 311 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 14: at heart, you know, how does that change what you're 312 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 14: looking for? I mean you may look at a certain 313 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 14: guy because you know he's a fit for what you 314 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 14: want rather than what you may think overall. 315 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've had to retrain a little bit how 316 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 2: we how we look at different positions or you know, 317 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: the value we put on them, uh, based off Wink system, 318 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: And I think that's what's most important is what's you know, 319 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 2: what's the value for the giants and how do we 320 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: see them and how we're going to be how they're 321 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: going to be utilized, which we're still having those conversations. 322 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, we definitely had to retrain how we think 323 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: about some things at different positions and what the value 324 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: of you know, those traits are that we covet and 325 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: and where those align in the draft. But definitely feel 326 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: better going into it this year in terms of what 327 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: exactly he's looking for this process. 328 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 5: Have you spoken directly with Saquan so that he he knows. 329 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: Nothing's changed since we talked to the owners meetings, I 330 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: mean we we I haven't. 331 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: I haven't. There's nothing new. 332 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 11: I haven't talked to keep back of the draft the 333 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 11: way they are this time. But how do you define 334 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 11: what is a successful draft pick? And when you know, 335 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 11: for anybody years agoing five years from now, when you 336 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 11: look at a player, how would you define success. 337 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we like to look at the playtime over three years. 338 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: You know, usually it's over three years, what their what 339 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: their playtime is, their contribution, you know, whether they develop 340 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: into a starter, you know, that's obviously a hit. If 341 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: they turn into a good starter, that's that's that's good, 342 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: that's what you try to h strive for. But there's 343 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: also role players there, there's really good special teams players. 344 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: You know that that you value. 345 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: So again it's their role, that's their fit on the team, 346 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: their contribution over that that four year period. But usually 347 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: after three years, you know if they're a contributor or not. 348 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: And there's going to be different types of contributions. 349 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 11: Question you mentioned changing the way you view positions. 350 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: What position for you personally? 351 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 15: I guess have you changed your outlook the most on kind. 352 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: Of the way you evaluate it? Yeah, it's the front seven. 353 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: It's just a different defense than I've been in. So 354 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: it's it's really the front seven. 355 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 15: Show that I mean, you know, you're you're building the 356 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 15: team for the next three, four, five, six, seven years. 357 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: Winks may not be here. 358 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 15: You know, you you almost went this offseason. Is there 359 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 15: is there a dangers to drafting for a coach? 360 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually, something the coach Parcels told me a long 361 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: time ago, like coaches come and go, you need to 362 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: draft good football player. So, yeah, you don't want to 363 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: get too pigeon holed into scheme specific because then you're right, like, 364 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: if Wink gets ahead job a year from now and 365 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: you bring somebody else in that runs a totally different defense, 366 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: you have a scheme specific player. So you know, part 367 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: of our job is to balance that, Like this guy 368 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: again at value, like he's only going to fit this 369 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: one scheme, and yeah, and Wing's got a really good 370 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: chance to get ahead of coaching job if he moves 371 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: on and we change things up, you know, then yeah, 372 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: you you know, you definitely have to balance that and 373 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: be aware of that. 374 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 9: Joe, you obviously have your starting quarterback locked up, but 375 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 9: are you somebody who'd like to have a young developmental 376 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 9: quarterback on the team. And also, I say that because 377 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 9: there seems to be a thought around the league that 378 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 9: like Rock Party has changed, maybe re emphasized the idea 379 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 9: that team should just you pick a day three quarterback 380 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 9: and see what happens, uh going forward. 381 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just say right now, we're happy with Tyron. 382 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: Tyrod is a backup, so I think we're we're good 383 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: with shape right there? You have a third I mean 384 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: you don't have a third quarterback right m Yeah, I 385 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: mean we had Davis web last year. So we'll continue 386 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: to look whether it's a veteran free agent or you know, 387 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: somebody in the draft. 388 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: Or post draft or whoever it may be. But yeah, 389 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: we'll have We'll have three quarterbacks in camp. The interior line. 390 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: You comfortable with where that is right now? Yeah? 391 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we have fourteen offensive lineman under contract 392 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: right now. 393 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, just no different than the owner's meetings. What 394 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: I told you, guys, Joe, what. 395 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 11: Are you do? 396 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 12: You remain optimistic that Saquan will be on the field 397 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 12: for you at the start of the season. From the 398 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 12: outside looking in, it doesn't seem like there's an obvious 399 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 12: resolution based on where the two sides have been. 400 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: So FLA, Yeah, you have to ask him. I'm not 401 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. 402 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what his plan is I haven't. I 403 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: haven't talked to him in probably three weeks. 404 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: On this team, I haven't talked to him. 405 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 9: Joe. 406 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 13: From your experience before you got here, obviously we talked 407 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 13: to you a lot about Buffalo, but you you know, 408 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 13: you were on the road a lot there scouting prospects, 409 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 13: and I know when you go to pro days and 410 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 13: campus visits and stuff. 411 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 14: You're not just looking at guys who are in that 412 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 14: current draft. I'm curious now in this process, are there 413 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 14: guys you know do you go back to your notes 414 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 14: from two years ago where guys may have stood out 415 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 14: to you when you were on campus, someone may have 416 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 14: said something to you, and has that factored into your 417 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 14: evaluation of guys that are now available to be drafted. 418 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, Yeah, there's a lot of I actually 419 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: went through some of my books. There's some guys that 420 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: are in this draft that I know I wrote in Buffalo. 421 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: I meant to call Brandon and get some of those 422 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: by I can't. I can't find them. So yeah, there's definitely, 423 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: you know, I was on the road a lot more. 424 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: You'll probably see fifty schools a year when I was 425 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: in Buffalo. So when players do go back to school 426 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: you know that are now in this draft. It is 427 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: helpful because you have a previous exposure to the player. 428 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: If I wasn't able to get them out, get out 429 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: and see him. 430 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 15: This this year. 431 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: So there was some definitely definite benefits to the amount 432 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: of work that that I was able to do in Buffalo. 433 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: It's still paying off. 434 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 9: On dexter. 435 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 12: When a positions market keeps resetting in an off season, 436 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 12: how do you balance as a GM, you know, between 437 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 12: not letting that dictate what you pay, but also trying. 438 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: To properly pay the player. 439 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's We have a formula that 440 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: we have in place in terms of coming up of 441 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: value with you know, of players based on various factors. 442 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: So you know, we stay true to that. 443 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: You know, we're coming up with value whether it's free agency, 444 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: contract extensions, whatever it may be. We have a formula 445 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: that we'd like to stick to good new deals and 446 00:18:59,119 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: through that equation. 447 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, same deal. 448 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: Like anytime you're you're paying a player, whether it's outside 449 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: the building or inside the building, you know, we come 450 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 2: up with a value what we think is fair, and 451 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: you know, you create a case on why you see 452 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: the value where it is and you know, again it 453 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: takes two to get a deal done. 454 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 11: By far the best back in this class. And how 455 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 11: do you feel about running backs in the first round 456 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 11: is always become a big issue obviously. 457 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's several good good backs in the 458 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: in the draft. 459 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: And again I'm if if it's a if it's a 460 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 2: good player and you know, a team decides to take 461 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: them and they have success for their system, then then 462 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: I don't think you can go wrong with. 463 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: Taking good football players. 464 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: So you know, again to I don't want to pigeonhole 465 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: myself into saying I would never take a certain position 466 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: in the in the first round. So yeah, it's it's 467 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: a good it's a good running back class. It's it's 468 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 2: got some depth to it, and and Bejeann's. 469 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: A good player, Joe. 470 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 12: When you're constructing your roster, how much of your decision 471 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 12: making is impacted not just by your own system, but 472 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 12: combating what division rivals or can owners do well. 473 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you always have to look at that 474 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: because that's the ultimate goals to win the division. So 475 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: when you're building your team, you obviously want to get 476 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: the coaches you know what they want in order to 477 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 2: run their schemes and execute their schemes at a high level. 478 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: But you also have to look at the division. 479 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: If there's you know, I reflect on when I was 480 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: in Miami and they had you know, Gronk all those years. 481 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: You know, you're looking for some sort of linebacker that 482 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: could match up and cover Gronk, and it was just 483 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 2: impossible to find somebody that could do that. So if 484 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: there are players or you know, schemes or whatever it 485 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: may be throughout the division, you're always looking at that 486 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: and studying it and seeing how you can maybe counter 487 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 2: one of their strengths. 488 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 7: Your one of your traits is that you're able to 489 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 7: separate emotion from team building, or when you have a 490 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 7: player who has been a good giant but maybe financially, 491 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 7: or when team building and resources doesn't really make sense 492 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 7: to build. I mean, do you find you're good at 493 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 7: separating those two things? And if so, where'd you kind of. 494 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 2: Learn that trade? Yeah? 495 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: No, not really. Now it's it's tough again. These guys 496 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: they're around, they work hard. 497 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: You know, we had had a heck of a season 498 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: last year, and you become close with them, and it's 499 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 2: it's hard, but there is you do that you have 500 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: to separate it. I'm not going to say I'm good 501 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: at it because there's a human element on both sides 502 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: for them and and myself. 503 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: But there there there is a business side to it. 504 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: And yeah, again in a perfect world, there's no salary 505 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: cap and you can make everybody happy and pay everybody. 506 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: But you know, I'm that's something I haven't been through before. 507 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: You know, last year, you know, we we didn't really 508 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: you know, we didn't extend anybody from our roster. It 509 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 2: was signing some people from outside the building. So after 510 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: going through a season with the players, and then you 511 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: know this next step of the process, whether it's extending 512 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: or players leave in the organization. Yeah, the human element, 513 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: I mean that that part stinks because you do like 514 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: all these guys and you know they put in a 515 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: lot of work for you and you know, again starting 516 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: this time last year. So it's it's tough to separate 517 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: the business and the human element. Just the way Daves 518 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: and I you know, are around the building and getting 519 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: to know the players. You know, maybe we do that 520 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: more than most, but you do become attached. I mean, 521 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: for sure, you. 522 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 5: Traded more, traded back a few times last year. 523 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: We haven't seen you trade up. Just curious where you're 524 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: fling Austville on that is. 525 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 5: I mean, do you have would you be hesitant to 526 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 5: dip into the next year's draft pass to you know, 527 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: a pick from a future. 528 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan, I'd be open to any of that. 529 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never going to rule it out if it's 530 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 2: the right player and the value aligns, you know, I'd 531 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: move up. 532 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: If it was a future pick, I would do that too. 533 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: You know, last year, just where we were financially, we 534 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: need as many depth pieces as we can. So moving 535 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: back a couple of times last year just made sense. 536 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: It got us, you know, some more bodies that you 537 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: know ended up contributing for us. So that was a 538 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: little bit of the thought process that went into. 539 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 4: That of a big play receiver change in the sense 540 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 4: that when I was younger, it was a big guy 541 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 4: who could run fast and catch a forty yard pass. 542 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: Is it now somebody who could catch a fifteen yard 543 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 4: pass and make it a forty yard pass? 544 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: That could be part of it. 545 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 546 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: I think both of your you know comments are correct. 547 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: Like if you if you got a guy that could 548 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 2: take the top off and you throw the ball down 549 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: the field and goes up and gets it like a 550 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 2: Randy Moss, then you'd love to have that. Or if 551 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: it's a you know, I was with Steve Smith and Carolina. 552 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: You throw him a slant and he can take it eighty. 553 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: So anytime you can generate yards after catch, I mean, 554 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: I think that helps you. You know, you don't have 555 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: to do the fifteen sixteen play drives. You know, maybe 556 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: now it's six because the guy had a you know, 557 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: fifty yarder in there. So I think all those things 558 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: are important when you're looking at the receiver the. 559 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 15: Center position in this draft. 560 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 6: I mean, you don't have anyone on your roster that 561 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 6: has extensive experiences as a starter. How important is it 562 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 6: for you to add to that position in the draft, 563 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 6: whether whatever part portion of the draft, And what do 564 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 6: you think of that group in particular? 565 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's some Yeah, there's some depth in 566 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: the draft, but I don't think we have to Again, 567 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: we have these meetings. As soon as the Eagles game 568 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: was over that week, we had meetings and we went 569 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 2: into the offseason. If we can't get Nick back, if 570 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: we can't get Feliciano back, what does it look like? 571 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: And you know, talking with the coaching staff and the 572 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: personnel staff. There's there's people in house that I think 573 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: are viable candidates for that. You know, Ben Brettison, Jack 574 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: Shane lemu JC we just signed. 575 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: A week ago. So there's guys there that have have 576 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: played center, they've played games, and you know, it'd be 577 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: good competition.