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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy mellancants at Tamra Judge,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to two Teas in a Pod. My other twat

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Speaker 1: is on vacation right now for spring break, so I

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Speaker 1: have standing in for her, the one and only braun

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Speaker 1: Wyn Burke. She's my co host today. Thank you, Braunwin

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Speaker 1: so much for being with us today with me. When

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Speaker 1: I say I you can call me braun Wyn Wyndham too.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I don't know what last

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Speaker 1: name I have, burke In is that your That's Sean's

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Speaker 1: last name. We're a transitional period, so you know, let's

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Speaker 1: go with Windom. Okay, well yeah, let's go with that.

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Speaker 1: Your transitional situation here. Now you moved since the last

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Speaker 1: time the viewers saw you on Housewives. Yes, so we

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Speaker 1: are in a rental house right now, short term rental.

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Speaker 1: We we still don't know exactly what we're doing. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, when we when I stopped finishing Housewives, I

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Speaker 1: had recently come out out I was dating Chris Um.

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Speaker 1: We were in a transitional period, you know, trying to

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Speaker 1: do modern marriage, keep our family together, and that's been

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Speaker 1: it's been about a year and a half since I

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Speaker 1: came out. We've been in this house for about I

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Speaker 1: don't know, six or seven months. We're actually looking for

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Speaker 1: a property now, so we kind of know what we're looking.

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Speaker 1: Let's back it up now, when you say that you

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Speaker 1: guys are in a temporary situation. Are you going to

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Speaker 1: continue to live together or are you going to split up? No,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna stay in the same house. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep the kids in the same house. Um. I feel

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Speaker 1: like I should say like hi first, like whoa, Hi,

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Speaker 1: I know Hi. We just kind of when it got

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Speaker 1: going to keep the kids in the same house. I

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Speaker 1: spent half my time in New York, or about a

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Speaker 1: third of my time in New York. I just recently

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Speaker 1: moved in with my girlfriend there. So wait wait wait

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Speaker 1: wait wait wait. So back up, So the viewers out there,

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Speaker 1: listeners out there, do not know all this. So you

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Speaker 1: have a girlfriend, you've been with her for how long?

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Speaker 1: Six months? Okay, and you are back and forth from

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Speaker 1: New York to Orange County. I'm assuming you and Sean

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Speaker 1: have fifty fifty custody, so kind of a situation where

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Speaker 1: he's with them half the time. Then you're with them

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Speaker 1: half the time or is it just let's do what works. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So he's working really hard. He's working really hard in

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Speaker 1: these new companies that he started to art of the

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Speaker 1: end of the pandemic. So it's not exactly fifty fifty.

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Speaker 1: I think once things settled down with his work, that's

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Speaker 1: that's just because that's what's working for us as a

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Speaker 1: family right now. So we don't have anything. There's no

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Speaker 1: custody agreement. We haven't. We're still legally married, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're still living in the same house. Um. But we

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Speaker 1: did need some separation. So after the show quit film,

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Speaker 1: after I found out I wasn't being asked back, I

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Speaker 1: took the kids to Kauai for a while. We were

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Speaker 1: there for a couple of months. I took a reset.

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Speaker 1: You know, Um, I had been doing a lot, and

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Speaker 1: It's not like he didn't see them. He did five

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Speaker 1: guys have a pretty good system. You have. It's called

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Speaker 1: nesting um. We didn't invent the wheel on this. It's

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Speaker 1: it's amicable when the kids are being selected back and forth. Right.

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Speaker 1: cohesive and not in the same bed, right. We haven't

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Speaker 1: Well some of them were ivy F and oh that's right,

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Speaker 1: I forgot only having sex in your bed. Then I

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Speaker 1: saying it's easy, don't but life is good. Right. You

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Speaker 1: works for you. Guys, right now, my question to you

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Speaker 1: to her. You have a girlfriend, and and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing I love about you. Like you

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Speaker 1: and she's said a lot about you. But You've never

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Speaker 1: in your life, and it's just like, okay, that was,

422
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: you know, a fun experience. Do you have good memories

423
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: of being on the Housewives or was it one of

424
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,919
Speaker 1: those things like, oh my god, what did I do?

425
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: I definitely have good memories because it's giving me this

426
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: amazing platform. So I think when I walked away one

427
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: for like for protecting my own self, I thought, I'm

428
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 1: going to take a step away. It was very hard

429
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: to see two of my friends cast, and keep in mind,

430
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: when Noel was cast, we were I thought best friends. Yes,

431
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, so to see you know that was hard

432
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 1: and so I said, I'm just gonna take a break.

433
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: And then the longer of a break I took, I

434
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 1: got off Instagram completely. Um. I had my person that

435
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: helps with social media just kind of take over for

436
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 1: a while. I was like, I'm gonna Hawaii. I'm completely

437
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: tuning out. And I think that was you were sad.

438
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 1: You were saying, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we talked

439
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 1: about it. You were sad. Yeah. I mean I came

440
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: to your house. I was, yes, I didn't know, and

441
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: this is so and like, I wish I could go

442
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: back and tell me. I thought that that was the end,

443
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: like I've done everything, that was the end, Like there

444
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: was nothing left for me. I didn't realize that this

445
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 1: was just the beginning. Yeah. I mean, once you're on

446
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: a platform, especially like Housewives, and that's why I'm forever

447
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: grateful for being on that, so many other opportunities come

448
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: your way, and you know, it's it's up to you

449
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: to take advantage of the opportunities that really means something

450
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: or will take you to the next level, and not

451
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: just every opportunity that comes your way, because there's a

452
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: lot of things. You're like, if I do that, I'm

453
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: gonna look really desperate, you know, And it's I mean

454
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: that's like, did I love everyone I worked with? No? No,

455
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: But that's the whole Yeah. Now saying that, would you

456
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: if they offered you to do the Ultimate Girls trip um,

457
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: would you do it? Oh? That would be fun. It

458
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: was actually a lot of fun because it's like you're

459
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: in and out. It's a few it's like a quick

460
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: two weeks or something. Yeah, So it doesn't take over

461
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: your whole because we've talked about how when you're filming

462
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: it takes over like your whole life. Well, I don't

463
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: think people really truly understand how time consuming it is.

464
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: So you film four months out of the year, but

465
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: within that four months, you are constantly being um beat up,

466
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: talked badly about, conversation side conversations with whoever your bestie

467
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: is on the show. There's a lot of fighting, there's

468
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: a lot of stress, and then you go into press

469
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: and then it's like then things get really heated because

470
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: you start speaking your mind and then other cast members

471
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: get mad at you, and then it becomes a fight.

472
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: And then you go to air, and then that's a

473
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 1: whole another like it is a ship show, and it

474
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: takes a toll in your mental health. I found I

475
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: wasn't as present. You're not you're not as present with

476
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 1: your children. Yeah, like with Sean my kids, I would

477
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: be sitting there and I would be, you know, like

478
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: and what if she does this? And then what if

479
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: she does this? And like it consumed me. And that

480
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: was because if you're not taught, if you're not dealing

481
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: with what's going on at that moment, you have another

482
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: cast member that's calling you and you're concerned with that,

483
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: and then you have a producer calling you, like trying

484
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: to talk to talk you off the Cliff. So there's

485
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: so many things that are going on, so many moving

486
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: parts to it, and then you know, like I didn't

487
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: even realize it, and now Sophia is like, oh my god, Mom,

488
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: it's so nice to have of you, like you're here,

489
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: you're present all the time, and so girls trip great

490
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 1: in and out. It's a it's a it's literally a

491
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: ten day commitment and that's so much fun. And you

492
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: get that little endorphin rush, you know, because I do

493
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: miss the cameras, like I miss feeling. I liked getting

494
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: dressed up. I enjoyed that, you know, I'd like filming.

495
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: I didn't like all the other I do hope that

496
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: what I'm working on it comes to fruition because it's

497
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 1: it's not exhausting, you know, it's uplifting, yes, and like

498
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: that that and like I feel like and I'm just

499
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: gonna say this, and I hope I just take this

500
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: with what it's meant. I know that a lot of

501
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: times people say, oh, Tamer's is a pot or ship talker,

502
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: and I just have to say that I have told

503
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: you everything about my life. You literally know every single thing,

504
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: and you have never said every one word, not ever,

505
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: ever and you. This thing I love about you is

506
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: someone says it on camera, Okay, it's fair game, but

507
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: game if you tell me off camera different story. You

508
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: have kept secrets that that most people probably wouldn't and

509
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that like I wish people

510
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: knew about you is I have told you everything. You

511
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: even know things like right now that I'm keeping close

512
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: to the best, like you everything, and you're like, these

513
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: aren't my stories to tell. And you're one of the

514
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: first people I call, like when I'm having a really

515
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: hard time because I know you've been through every single

516
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: thing that I have been through, and you are so

517
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: helpful and you're always there to pick up the phone,

518
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: always well, thank you. That gives me goose bumps and

519
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: and really warms my heart. You know, they're stirring the

520
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: pot on the show is definitely an art form, and

521
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: we're going to get into them as we recap Orange County.

522
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: But before we start to recap Orange County, I want

523
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: to ask you a question. Noella was one of your

524
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: really good friends. I want to say your best friend.

525
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: I met Noella through you. We went out to dinner,

526
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: we you know, we went for drinks. She was very sweet,

527
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: very nice. Actually sent me a bouquet of flowers the

528
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: next day, just saying, you know, it was great to

529
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: meet you. I thought, oh my god, this girl is great.

530
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: What the hell happened? Like you were best friends, you

531
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: were together all the time, and then she got on

532
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: my show and then my social mate. I mean I

533
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: truly believed she was my soul mate. So first I

534
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: want to say, because a lot of people say she

535
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: used me to get on the show, that absolutely is

536
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: not true. We were introduced through Thomas. Thomas is the

537
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: executive producer of Housewives, which, um he's amazing, love him. So,

538
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like she she like finagled her way

539
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: into my life. No, we were like, hey, I think

540
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: you two are going to get along. I would love

541
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: for you to call her, so I did. So there

542
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: was no using me to get on the show. Like okay,

543
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: So to me, let's back that up. Um, they encourage

544
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: you to call her to talk to her, So that

545
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: just means like they kind of thought maybe she was

546
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: going to be on the show, Like they kind of

547
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: thought like she would be a good housewife, so let's

548
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: bring her in. Yes, but you always took it way

549
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: beyond that. You were way waiting on that. So my

550
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: first lunch with her, I was like, oh my god,

551
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: I love this girl. She's so open. She's like me

552
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,239
Speaker 1: on crack, you know, like like anything any crazy thing

553
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: I've done, she's done more. But the thing that I

554
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: love about her is she owns all of it. She

555
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: owns it all, um, And she was able to keep

556
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: in mind this was doing quarantine. She was able to

557
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: live in this beautiful world of her own existence, and

558
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: she brought me into it. You know, she created this

559
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: fantasy life for us when I was at a really,

560
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: really low point. And I will always have so much

561
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: love for her that Like when I when I see

562
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: what I was on the floor, I was so depressed, Um,

563
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: after all that stuff went down with Shannon, Like I

564
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: was devastated. I couldn't move, I couldn't move. She literally

565
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: carried me onto her plane and took me to pric

566
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico and nursed me back to health, like mental health.

567
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: She did that. And that's love, you know that that's

568
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: a side that's kind of a side of Noella that

569
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: we don't get to see too much on the show.

570
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: And I always say, like, on these shows, they're going

571
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: to show your strongest part of your personality. So if

572
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: your strongest part of personality is talking, shift and that's

573
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like, that's all you do. But

574
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: I think if she had had a friend. I think

575
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: if she had had one friend, you would have seen

576
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: the softer side of her. That being said when she

577
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: was cast and I wasn't our our friendship. It just

578
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: went away. And I've heard from other cast members what

579
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: she said has happened. That's not true. You know. I

580
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: think I've reached out to you and Katrina to like

581
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: send her an email. She wouldn't text me back. I

582
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: was I was like, I don't know what happened. She

583
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: so let's just take it back. So she got the

584
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: part of a housewife. You got fired? Did it just

585
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: cut off right? There? Was there a fight? Did you

586
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: do something to her? Did what happen? It doesn't make

587
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: any sense to me. But she was my first phone call.

588
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: She was I'm nuts that I called her before I

589
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: called anyone else. I send her a text message. I

590
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm so happy for you.

591
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: You deserve all the beautiful things in life. I just

592
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: need to take a break right now because it's hurts

593
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, it's painful. I mean, right now, I'm

594
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. Right now, I have two

595
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: friends have been been contacted by casting to be on

596
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: the show, and they're calling me. They're like, I filmed

597
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: with you like three years ago. Why are they calling

598
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: me now? And I said, I don't know, but you

599
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: know what it it kind of hurts. It's like, okay,

600
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: like I want my friends been, you know, have fun

601
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: and be successful and do all that. But it's like, really,

602
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna call my friends. I haven't even heard from you,

603
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: and it does. It hurts. And I think I sent

604
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: you the text messages between us where I was like

605
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: literally begging for her to call me back. What was

606
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: going on? You know, I wish your son happy birthday.

607
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: At one point I was like, Okay, this is gonna

608
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: be my last text because now I'm enduring stalker territory. Um.

609
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: I said it kind of jokingly, but she ended up

610
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: breaking up with me for lack of a better word.

611
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: And I do want to make it very clear we

612
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: were never romantically involved. I've seen rumors like that. Okay,

613
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: I was wondering. I was actually wondering about that because

614
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: she has said she's bisexual. Yeah, no, and she is,

615
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: but we were just she was like a sister. Um.

616
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: And then she ended up standing Sean an email saying

617
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: that I had done some hurtful things or whatever, and

618
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: Seano back it says, Ronan hasn't done anything, like, she

619
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: hasn't gone out of met she's You're not a hurtful person,

620
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: and you don't go after people. You don't. You don't

621
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: call people out, you don't. You are you have a

622
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: heart occold. So for me, like I couldn't understand, like,

623
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: what did you do? She made it sound like you

624
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: did something horrible to her. Do you know to this

625
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: day what it couldn't know? I don't. My best guest

626
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: is because I feel like I do know her, is

627
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: that maybe someone we trusted said something to distance her

628
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: from me so she would be more. Um. So you're

629
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: saying a producer said something. I don't know. I don't know.

630
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: This is literally just me throwing stuff out there, because

631
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: that's the only thing that would make sense given how

632
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: close we were, because I also know her, and I

633
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: don't think she would have done that if she didn't

634
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: believe something happened. I do believe that. I know you

635
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: haven't watched all the episodes of Orange County, but what

636
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: you have seen, how do you feel like she's being portrayed,

637
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: or how she's acting, or what are your thoughts on her?

638
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: I actually have only watched the one from last night,

639
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: because you told me too, because you have to. I

640
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: haven't watched any of them because I don't enjoy it.

641
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: I find it it makes me sad. I took a

642
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: year off too. Yeah, like I didn't watch last season

643
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: and it's not like, oh it's sad and I'm not

644
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: gonna watch it. No, I don't want it because it

645
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: hurts my feelings. So how did watching last night's episode?

646
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: How did you feel about her? I will say, and

647
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: I've also heard stuff. I will say this. I think

648
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: it's very hard for so one like Noella, who was

649
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: very open, very outgoing, very embracing all aspects of life,

650
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: to be on a show with such conservative people. I

651
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: don't know how they thought that was going to work.

652
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Um without her having an ally. I think if she

653
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: had one person on that show that had her back,

654
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: you would see the part of her that I got

655
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: to see. Like, do you feel like she's she's like

656
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: a mean person, or she's a misunderstood person, or I mean,

657
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: I think we were so close, we were I think

658
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: she I mean, I think she's human, so I think

659
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: she can have meanness in or just like we all can.

660
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: You know, I think when I think in her very core,

661
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: she is a little girl that wants to be left,

662
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: just like most of us. Well, I will tell you

663
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: that it kind of her. Yeah, it kind of broke

664
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: my heart when her father passed away and I actually

665
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: reached out to her. Now, just remember I was on

666
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: Watch What Happens Life last month and I said, you know,

667
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: I called her the village idiot because I just felt

668
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: like she was doing things to do things, and I

669
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: just I don't like that. So I called her the

670
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: village idiot. And she was on a few weeks later

671
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: and she had the best comeback and she said, that's

672
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: funny coming from the most iconic village idiot, which made

673
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: me laugh, Like I don't I have really big skin.

674
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: So when her dad passed away, I sent her a

675
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: d M and I said, I just want to say

676
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry about your dad's passing, and I apologize

677
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: for calling you and you know, the village idiot Um,

678
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: and by the way, I loved your comeback and she

679
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: was very sweet. She came back to me and she

680
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 1: was very sweet about what she said. And she's like,

681
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: you know what she goes. You know, I'm not stupid.

682
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm a logical person, and you know, she was just

683
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: kind and I got like, thank you for being kind

684
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: and and that was it. I'm not saying we have

685
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: some big romance or friendship going on, but you know,

686
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: when somebody's father dies, that's sad to me. It is

687
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: it is. I wrote to her when he passed away

688
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: to We have talked a few times since then. Um.

689
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: I think I think she's just like a lot of us.

690
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: But you know, she has that little girl in her

691
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: that wants to be loved. I know her family history.

692
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: You know, I think she wants to be love I

693
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: think the stuff with James really shook her. Yeah. I

694
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: feel like you and James are really good friends still

695
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 1: to this day. We are. And I tried to get

696
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: James on the podcast that you know, he's very He's like,

697
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: well he was a hell no, He's like, you listen,

698
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: you know what I'm just it's it's very personal. I

699
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: don't want to put it out there like he's very private. Well,

700
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: he's an attorney, so let's just call it what it is.

701
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: He's smart, he's keeping himself quiet, letting her say whatever

702
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: she wants to say, and then you know in court

703
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: that's all going to be used against her. I think

704
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: for him, And you know, because Sean and I have

705
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: stayed friends with James, Um we both are. We've both

706
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 1: gone to visit him in Puerto Rico. UM I will

707
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: say that he really does love his son. Um Noela

708
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: let their old nanny go, the one that had raised

709
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: Junior when he was a baby. He hired her. She's

710
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico, just eighteen. Like he didn't walk away

711
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: from his kid. You know, he is working to get custody.

712
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: He wants to co parent. I think that they're going

713
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: to get to a place where they do what's best

714
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: for Junior. I really do. I think it's like she

715
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: did the same thing with Coco. I think she'll get there. Wait,

716
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Coco is her daughter daughter with her. They never got married,

717
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: but like her first long term right. We don't hear

718
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: about Coco ever on the show. I know her dad

719
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: doesn't want her filming. Um does she live with her dad?

720
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: Or she lived with Dallas. She lives with her dad. Um,

721
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: she lives with her dad. So she's a sweet girls.

722
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: Same ages CoA. They used to be like the best

723
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: of friends like that was that was heart breaking too, Okay,

724
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: So do you feel like you guys can ever reconcile

725
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: become friends again. I do, It's going to happen. I think,

726
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, everyone has a certain amount of time on

727
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: the show, whether it's like me two years, like you

728
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: two decades. You know, we all have a time on

729
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: this show. And I do think when the show is over,

730
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I miss her her, like there will

731
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: be time. And I told you this too, like I've

732
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: told you, like things will happen in my life that

733
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: are so crazy and there's no one else I can

734
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: talk to, because she was the only person that fully

735
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: understood the crazy and embraced it and loved me for it,

736
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: Like the things that her and James would just be like, Okay,

737
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: we're all well with it. It's very rare in life

738
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: that you meet people like that, you know, and like

739
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: I love I love Noel's new boyfriend, Like he's a

740
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: great guy. I've heard great things about him. I have

741
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: people friends that know him and just said he's like,

742
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: he's a great he's a great guy. I think he's

743
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: really good for her because he's like solid and grounding. Um,

744
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, James has a new girlfriend that's amazing. She's

745
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: very sweet too, So I think they're both like in

746
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: really good places. And I think when you're happy, it's

747
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: easier to go through all the other stuff. So I'm

748
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: hopeful for all of them. I'm hopeful for everyone. Well,

749
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: I hope that you guys can get it back together.

750
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: And you guys, let's let's do a deep dive into

751
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: Orange County. Um, let's go on a break first, and

752
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: we come back. We're gonna recap what went down in Aspen.

753
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. So let's get into last night's episode. Um,

754
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: the girls are in Aspen, and I mean, do you

755
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: agree with me? Going on the trips was the most

756
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: fun ever? No, I don't agree with you. You don't

757
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: agree with me. Oh my gosh, what I can't even

758
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: remember what trips would we go on when we were

759
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: on the shop. No, I didn't have fun on one

760
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: of those trips. I kind of felt like Marravall was fun.

761
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, because I never got I never

762
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: had friends. Everyone hated me, like you fun. So so

763
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: they're they're they're in Aspen. We're getting to know I

764
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: feel like, finally episode I don't even know what it is,

765
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen fourteen, we're finally getting to know Jen, which

766
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: you know Jen, I feel like she's another one of

767
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: your friends that they brought on yes the show and

768
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: they're they're playing a little game like what was your

769
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: in you know, what's embarrassing to you or something like that,

770
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: and Jen says that she has been engaged seven times.

771
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: Seven freaking times. That's a lot. And I'm like, oh, okay,

772
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: it's like the what's the Jersey housewife? The one that

773
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: was engaged all those times? Was it Danielle? Yes, thank you,

774
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: She's like daniel stab of Orange Kenny, do what your thought?

775
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Jenn Armstrong? I mean I know her,

776
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: I know her personally, so like Jen is a very

777
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: hard worker. She's so smart. Like sometimes when Jen's talking

778
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: to me, I'm like, mm hmm, you're a scientist. Yeah,

779
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: I mean I'm confused with Jen um. I found her

780
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: to be extremely boring on the Girl's Trip and if

781
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: when you're born on a girl's trip. You're done. I

782
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: think of her, keeping in mind she's a doctor. She's

783
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, has a very successful practice. She's the primary

784
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: breadwinner and her family, you know, so she can't get

785
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: drunk and it doesn't make her good TV. Yes, you know,

786
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: which is true, and that's the truth. The thing is,

787
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: she's a good doctor and pains me to see all

788
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: this BS is being written about her because none of

789
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: it's true. She's a great doctor. Okay, I mean there's

790
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. There's a lot there's a lot

791
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: of lawsuits, there's a lot of things going on. Um

792
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: my really good girlfriend, Pam lives right next door to

793
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: to Jen and Wren Ryan whatever his name is, and

794
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'll just leave it at that. But I

795
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: mean he has been a few times. I don't think

796
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: we've ever had a conversation. So I don't think it's

797
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: just him on the show where he's like that. I

798
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: generally think he's just over people. Yeah, like he's he

799
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: doesn't want to fel he doesn't want to. He just

800
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: think he just doesn't like to really talk to people

801
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: in general, because he's the exact same way when you

802
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: just hang out at my house, he would like go

803
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: on his phone and watch sports. Yeah, not the most

804
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: interesting housewife they've cast it. I'm going to throw that

805
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: out there. I think she's beautiful, I think she's smart,

806
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: but sometimes it doesn't cut it. So and Noela accuse

807
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: heathera pushing the camera. I I don't know, maybe it

808
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: was a producer or a camera guy whatever into the

809
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: wall at her party. Your thoughts, Like, I know Heather,

810
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: I've known her for years. She's not a violent person

811
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: by any means. So I'm like, is Noela just lying?

812
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: I would guess the truth is somewhere in the middle. Now,

813
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: Noel said she heard she heard this from someone, so

814
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: I can think a yes, or she heard it from

815
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: given that party in the night. So I think sometimes

816
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: when you hear stuff, it gets exaggerated. I would guess

817
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: something happened. I doubt how they would do something illegal.

818
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: I personally don't see how the physically pushing shoving anybody

819
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: into a wall. But is Noela the type that's gonna

820
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: pull something like this right out of her ass? Down?

821
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: Maybe me Terry got upset and pushed the camera guy

822
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: in the camera down or no, Like there's things I

823
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: can see you do, like I mean I've yeah, I

824
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: mean a lot went down on this side on the floor.

825
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: But that's about all I've ever done. Now, I've thrown in,

826
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: I've dropped in the toyle that I've done a lot

827
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: throughout my twelve years. So um, this entire episode was

828
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: a little frustrating to me, a little annoying. There was

829
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: a lot of ship that went on that I'm like,

830
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: are you are we seriously watching this right now? It

831
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: was exhausting. It was exhausting, and not even in a

832
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: good way. I don't think. Um, no, Emily, Okay, let's

833
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: talk Emily, because we worked together with Emily. Emily has

834
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: definitely come out of her shell. But she is now

835
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: the ship stir. She is labeled the ship Stir, and

836
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, and it takes a true talent to be

837
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: able to move a storyline. Not many housewives capable of

838
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: doing that. I felt like I was one that was

839
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: very capable of doing that, and you do it in

840
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: such a way that it's not so obvious. And I

841
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: appreciate what Emily is trying to do, but she's basically

842
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: coming off looking like a boat stapper. I mean, I

843
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: don't have fun memories of Emily she I don't like her.

844
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: I just so you know, the entire season, she's a

845
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: totally different person. And it's kind of like when somebody's

846
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: told listen, you're not that interesting. If you don't, you know,

847
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: you don't start performing, you're gonna get fired. And I

848
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: feel like she went into this season going, Okay, I'm

849
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: gonna stir the pot, I'm gonna do this, but it's

850
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: getting to the point where it's exhausting, like she can't

851
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: even let like she's got to talk all the time,

852
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: Like getting out of the Van Mova John is wet.

853
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, really, I don't really want to think

854
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: about your Manjina right now. And she says things that

855
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: she thinks are going to be good TV, and it's

856
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: kind of getting annoying. And I've always feel like she

857
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: tries to tear people down to kind of bring them unhappiness,

858
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: to like I tried with that girl. I did. I

859
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: tried so hard, and then I don't. I feel like

860
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: she doesn't have real friendships in her life, you know,

861
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: Like no, she hangs out with a lot of people

862
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: that have been trying to get on the show forever,

863
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: and she was definitely part of them and end up

864
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: doing it. I mean, I'm just absolutely shocked that she's

865
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: now in season four. Me too. But I mean, but

866
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: let me tell you, I will take this Emily over

867
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: what we filmed with, you know, years ago. Yeah, I

868
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: think she's interested at all that she's gonna get called

869
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: out for. Like in the episode, she says something not

870
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: too nice about me, and you know, the whole thing was,

871
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: I've gone through some stuff last year. I was generally

872
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: worried about Shannon and I off camera voice some things

873
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: I had heard that I was concerned about. I didn't

874
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: off camera on purpose because I didn't want to be

875
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: So let's take that back. She basically called you a name. Yeah,

876
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: she called you a name, and I can't remember exactly

877
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: what it was, something about all of asshole you are

878
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, And I'm like, wait, really, did

879
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: you really? Really you just say that, because that is

880
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: so out of line, Like you actually took somebody aside

881
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: off camera and said, listen, I just heard this. I'm

882
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: kind of concerned. Yeah, when she took it and ran

883
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: with it and she put it on camera, and like,

884
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer like you, if it's said on camera,

885
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: then it's fair game. But if you say it off camera,

886
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: because they had bonded and I, Shannon, I weren't that

887
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: close at the time, and they had bonded, and I

888
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: was genuinely concerned. I didn't know what to do. I

889
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: had talked to the production. I had talked to production,

890
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: and I was like, these are my concerns, Like, yeah,

891
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: we kind of have the same ones too, So I

892
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: knew that I wasn't out of line and being worried

893
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: because I'm a caregiver. I do care about people, even

894
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: if we're not getting along. I care about you. So

895
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: I said it to her after we had stopped filming,

896
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: after the cameras had shut down purposefully so it wouldn't

897
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: be on camera, and then she brought it and it

898
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: was like that wasn't cool, And then it became a thing,

899
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: and I did feel I did feel bad for that, um,

900
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, but like for her to even bring me up.

901
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: It's been over a year now, you know, I'm obviously

902
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: in a different place, Like the majority of my life

903
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: right now is dedicated to helping people get sober and like,

904
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: but what she said about it was so rude, Like

905
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: it was just rude. It was uncalled for when she

906
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: called me Lucifer last season. I heard, so, I don't know,

907
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't get see the TV show He's hot, Yeah,

908
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: you know. And Emily says, I don't talk about things

909
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't see with my own eyes, and I almost

910
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: fell off the couch when she said that, because that's

911
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: all she does is talk about things. That's all she does.

912
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: She literally has made herself to the person that no

913
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: housewife can trust because you're sitting in a conversation with her,

914
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: She's gonna go blab it to somebody else. I have

915
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: a feeling by the time people listen to this, there

916
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: will already be like twenty fan sites that have gone

917
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: and shown all the other things she's done, like, oh,

918
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: there's what I start doing that right now. Yeah, And

919
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: I would have to say, um, I feel bad for

920
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: Shannon in this episode. You know, Shannon and I are

921
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: not on great terms, and I literally feel like, no

922
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: matter what she does, the other girls come after her.

923
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: They want to attack her, they want to bring her down.

924
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: When I say other girls I'm talking to Emily, Gina

925
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: and Heather constantly wanted to bring her down. Um. You know,

926
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: Shannon says at her part like at her party. Let's

927
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: act like we're having fun. Let's act like we're having fun.

928
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: And Heather says to Gina whether in New York walking

929
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: the streets drunk, would you rather be with me or

930
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 1: be with them? How is that any different? But yet

931
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: Shannon gets attacked for saying that. I'm like, wait, Heather,

932
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: you're the one that just said, like, you know, would

933
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: you rather be with me? Yeah? Of course you'd rather

934
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 1: be with me. You know, It's like it was such

935
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: a stupid when housewife, what I'm getting out of the house.

936
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: I've start to fight about something so stupid as a

937
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 1: chair you took my chair or you said this. It's

938
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: bad TV. It's bad TV. It's like small house bad TV.

939
00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: Um it is it's bad. Um. I think you know.

940
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: The one thing I will say about Shannon, which we

941
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: both know, is she's a single mom. She's raising three girls.

942
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: She's trying to start companies and working her ass off

943
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: like she she gets you know, she said it in

944
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: this episode, I'm trying to do my best, you know.

945
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: And then she's doing all this, she's trying to you know,

946
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: hold down the household, take care of her kids, put

947
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: her kids through college, and start her business and she's

948
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: being attacked by I mean, she this girl cannot do

949
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: anything right without being attacked. So I think, I mean, honestly,

950
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: just like Emily and Gina could just give a little

951
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: bit of grace, it would be they can't. Like I

952
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: remember the beginning of the season, Gina says mean about me,

953
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: like my poor children, and I'm like, my poor children,

954
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: they're doing great. You know, they have two parents that

955
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: love them. What do you They go to a great school,

956
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: they have Siblians that come and visit. Like I know,

957
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: I feel like she said things that she's about and

958
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: medical care and they're you know, not like what what

959
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: they live in Newport Coast. There's no poor children here?

960
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: Like they're privileged kids. Yeah, like they get to go

961
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: to taekwondo and dance class, like gymnastics. What if there's

962
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: no poor kids here? You mean because their mom goes

963
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: away ten days of the month. Yeah, I don't know.

964
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: I I literally felt bad for Shannon this episode. I

965
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: feel like, no matter what she does, they're gonna beat

966
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: her down. I have a question for you because you

967
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: and Shannon went do something very similar to putting well

968
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: and I went through. Do you think you and Shannon

969
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: can ever be friends again? I think we can. I

970
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: think that most of all, Like I haven't felt this

971
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: way and being and I've been very vocal about it,

972
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: and maybe I haven't always been. Um, I don't know.

973
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I bashed her too much in the press, just

974
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: saying how I felt, but it was really came from

975
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: a place of pain, Like I really felt like we

976
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: were really good friends, really really really good friends. But

977
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I also knew that

978
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: Shannon is. Being in a friendship with Shannon is kind

979
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: of one side. She's never going to ask you, how

980
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: are you doing, how is your day? How is your husband?

981
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: How are your kids? She just just doesn't enter her mind.

982
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: And I'm the opposite, like I'm like, how are the

983
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: kids doing? And what are you up to? Like what's

984
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: going on? Like if you need to talk to me

985
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, I will pick up

986
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: the phone and talk to you. Where she she thinks

987
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: about Shannon first, And so I knew that. I've always

988
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: known that. But then when I you know, I don't.

989
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm not a person. I'm not a needy person. I

990
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: don't need somebody to talk to all the time. In

991
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: fact I rarely need somebody to talk to, and um

992
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, I really kind of just take things in

993
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: and deal with them that way. And I really needed her.

994
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: I got literally demoted from a job, didn't take the

995
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: offer that I was in for twelve years. My ex husband,

996
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: you know, I was diagnosed with cancer. My kids were

997
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: in turmoil. They didn't know what was going on then

998
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: know their dad was gonna live or die, even though

999
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: this day they don't like, there's so much that was

1000
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: going on in the world. And then the pant I'm

1001
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: a kid, and I just felt like, for the first

1002
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: time ever, I really needed my friend and she wasn't there. Yeah,

1003
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember. I mean it was more of

1004
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: a pain and a herd. It wasn't like, oh my god,

1005
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: I'm so bad that you got the show when I

1006
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: didn't like it was. It wasn't anything like that, Like

1007
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: I get it. I'm a businesswoman. I own a couple

1008
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: of businesses, like I was on twelve years, like time

1009
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: time to move on, Time to move on. That's it.

1010
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: It is what it is. And um so I didn't

1011
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: really hold any anger towards that, but I'm just like,

1012
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: what the hell, Like, where's my friend. So I don't know,

1013
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen. Who knows, who

1014
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: knows that we'll ever talk again, but it's been very

1015
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: hurtful for me. Another thing that was kind of hurtful

1016
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: for me too is Heather was asked a question, how

1017
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: did you feel when Shannon got casted on the show

1018
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: or Shannon was on the show, and she said, finally

1019
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: somebody I can be friends with. I'm like, oh, wait,

1020
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: I thought I was your friend. I thought Peggy was

1021
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: your friend. Because what does she mean by that? I

1022
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: don't know, So VICKI, I actually when Shannon was cast

1023
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: when Shannon was on the show, when the Heather met

1024
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: Shannon for the first time, she thought, oh, finally, she said,

1025
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: finally somebody I can be friends with. And I took

1026
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: that as a little bit of a dick. I haven't

1027
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: talked to her about it yet, but I'm like, wait,

1028
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: what did you mean by that? Because we we hit

1029
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: it off from the very beginning, and then Shannon came

1030
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: in after that, so what do you mean by that?

1031
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: So that kind of annoyed me. I don't know, I

1032
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: don't know, But overall, um, it wasn't their worst episode

1033
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: by any means. I felt like there was a lot

1034
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: of stupidity, like the arguing was a little bit I

1035
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: don't know when I was a little much. When I

1036
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: was in the car, I saw you know, Shannon, Gina

1037
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: and Emily in the backseat and it was like old

1038
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: It almost felt like old housewives. And then I saw

1039
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, Heather and no Well and Gin in the

1040
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: front and it's like where they're going. That's kind of

1041
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: what it felt like to me, like you need you

1042
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: did a reboot, you need to keep going at another

1043
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,479
Speaker 1: seat in the front of that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1044
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: I think I think it would be great. I think

1045
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: they need to bring two of your friends and bring

1046
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: you back because you know no Ela, you know you

1047
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: have history with Heather. I think that would be amazing.

1048
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: And I think because I know the friends that they

1049
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: called the viewers because you told me last night, yeah,

1050
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: I know how cool they are. So they're strong, amazing women,

1051
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: but they're also open minded. Yeah yeah. So how do

1052
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: you feel about Heather comparing you know, she feels like

1053
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: she's getting a bad rap as a mom um with

1054
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: Noel is saying that you push somebody against the wall.

1055
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: So Heathery basically compares pushing someone against the wall. When

1056
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: she talked to Shannon, how would you feel if somebody

1057
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: said you're a racist pig that steals money, I'm like, well,

1058
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: that's too totally different comparisons. It reminds you that thing

1059
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: on Jersey last year with Gia that I'm not even

1060
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: gonna repeat, but it was like, you make one analogy

1061
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: and you make another one that's worse. Like, just don't

1062
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, you just shouldn't like you're you're a

1063
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: pig that steals Like, you're a racist pig that steals

1064
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: That does not compare to pushing somebody against the wall.

1065
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw that out there. So let's get

1066
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: into fan thoughts. So fan thoughts and these are not

1067
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: our thoughts. These are things that fans. These are thoughts.

1068
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: I know, I have no thoughts. I like Noel. I

1069
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: feel like Noella is acting in every episode. Yeah, I

1070
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: kind of do. Keep in mind, she was a she's

1071
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: a huge super fan, so she would watch Housewives basically

1072
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: all day every day, with a little Rachel thrown in,

1073
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: um in law and Order. But like she has been

1074
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: studying these she knows every back thing. Um. That's why

1075
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: when she sent you that text. I didn't know what

1076
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: it meant, and like, like my my assistant had to

1077
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: explain it to me because he knows, like I don't

1078
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: get it, and I was like, I don't know. So

1079
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: I said it to Anthony and he's like, I think

1080
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: it means because you mentioned that you wanted to interview James, well,

1081
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: just because there's so much talk about him, of course

1082
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: that people want to hear what he has to say. Yeah,

1083
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: like that's the only thing. Like she has really made

1084
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: him out to be like this deadbeat dad that's not

1085
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: taking care of them, it doesn't want anything to do

1086
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: and it's moved on. And from what I've heard, that's

1087
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: not the case. Yeah, No, he's there. You know, he's

1088
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,479
Speaker 1: a great He's truly is a great guy. Yeah, dirt

1089
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: off your back. I mean he will literally give you

1090
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: the shirt off his back. Okay, let's take a break

1091
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go into New Jersey. Okay, we

1092
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: are back, and we're gonna go ahead and recap New Jersey. Now,

1093
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 1: in the past, I have not watched New Jersey for years,

1094
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: but now I am absolutely hooked. Like all my girlfriends

1095
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,959
Speaker 1: are like, what do you mean you don't watch New Jersey.

1096
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, I don't have enough time

1097
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: in the day. Now, I am obsessed with New Jersey.

1098
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: It's one of It's my favorite one because I love

1099
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: the fact that it's like broads, their family, their kids involved,

1100
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: and the husbands are involved. I would have to say

1101
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: they have the best husband cast ever, like the Dynamics

1102
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: with the husbands so good and they're actually gorgon amazing.

1103
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: They're like they're they're actually friends. And I love the

1104
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: fact that this year there's no like team this or

1105
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: that it's like they're all just kind of a little

1106
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: bit wrong and a little bit right. They're hanging out, like, Yeah,

1107
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: I love it. I love Jersey. Um, I love Jersey.

1108
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: I love Jersey. I feel like there's a lot of

1109
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: storyline that's going on that's interesting. We'll get into the

1110
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: Jackie storyline, which is so heartbreaking, but basically so where

1111
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: the where the episode takes off is there at I

1112
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: want to call it the Ropes course because we did

1113
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: the same damn thing that's called escape or something tree escape.

1114
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: Did you do the world were you on the show

1115
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: when we did the Ropes Course? I don't think no,

1116
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: that was Emily Gina's first year. Okay, so we did

1117
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: the road, they did the rope course, and Theresa came

1118
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: in piste Off. She's piste Off. I don't know if

1119
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: you've been watching the season, but basically what's happening. There's

1120
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: been a lot of talk, a lot of buzz about

1121
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: Louis about his past, and you gotta know, you got it.

1122
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: I knew when I brought Eddie in that people are

1123
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: gonna be digging up his past and if he had

1124
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: a past, they were gonna bring it up and all

1125
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: that stuff. So some of the girls have brought up there,

1126
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: you know, his past. It's not great. I don't really

1127
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: have a bad, horrible feeling about him. Um. I said

1128
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: publicly that I felt like all his affirmations gave me

1129
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: a little Brooks vibe, a little bit from Vicky. Well.

1130
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: When I was watching I'm not gonna lie, Margaret was you.

1131
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: She is Vicky and he is Brough. I mean there

1132
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: are some similarities when I'm like, oh my god, I've

1133
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: seen this before, but I've given him a chance, like

1134
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: I'm giving him a chance. People can change, you can

1135
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: go through bad relationships, You do stupid things, like I

1136
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: know I've done stupid things in past relationships I'm not

1137
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: proud of. But it doesn't you know, it doesn't define

1138
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: who I am. So Teresa says, she's you know, she's

1139
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: in a love bubble. She doesn't want anybody to pop

1140
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: this love bubble. She doesn't want to talk about anything

1141
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: that's happened in the past. And Louie did not sign

1142
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: up for this, therefore Margaret should not be talking about

1143
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: it or any of the other girls. Well, that's unfortunately

1144
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: not how reality TV works, right, Yeah, anyone that you're

1145
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: bringing on cameras signs up for it. I mean literally,

1146
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: you actually have to sign your name. Well, he had

1147
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: to sign a contract, so when you sign that contract,

1148
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: you are fair game. I mean, nobody wants their husband

1149
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: or their children or you know what I mean, like

1150
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: their mom to get involved in the drama. But and

1151
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: this it happens, and it's unfortunate. But this case, like

1152
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: I believe that underaged children shouldn't. I hold through to that.

1153
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: I think every all of us that underage kids should

1154
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: get a good at it. For lack of a better word, Um,

1155
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: but you know, he did sign up for it, and

1156
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: he knew all this stuff. You gotta know, you gotta

1157
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: know it's all going to come out. Yeah. So at

1158
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: the ropes course, she was very you know, she was mad,

1159
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: she was piste off. I like seeing that side of Teresa.

1160
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: I like seeing the table flipping side of her that is,

1161
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, very you know you did this, and what's

1162
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: that look on your face and all that stuff like

1163
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 1: don't rull your eyes at me? The one that makes

1164
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: I love it, like there's no reasoning with her or

1165
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, she's completely irrational too, and I'm just like, yeah,

1166
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: that makes no sense, but okay. And then there's Melissa,

1167
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: who does not want to get involved in family drama.

1168
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: She just sits back and it's like this right because

1169
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: she can't pick. She can't go against her sister in law. No, no,

1170
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: you can't hard It's like family, you can't go against

1171
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: your your sister in law. So she just kind of like, oh, God,

1172
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: kill me. When the cameras turn off, they still have

1173
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: to have Christmas together. Yes, yes, so there there was

1174
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: a lot that went on. She's blaming Margaret for everything

1175
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: being leaked, but I'm like, you know, I feel like

1176
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: Margaret's just doing her job. This is reality TV, this

1177
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: is what happens. Margaret didn't put it out there. There

1178
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: was stories about it and I don't know, there's a

1179
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: whole video oh that he was apologizing to his X

1180
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: and you know, it was like a retreat type of thing.

1181
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: And I don't blame him for that, Like I feel

1182
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: like he was trying to better himself. People want to

1183
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: give him like a hard time about that. No, I

1184
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: don't feel like that's bad. But then he went and

1185
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: lied and said, well, she was crazy, the girl was crazy.

1186
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, you were you you were proposing to

1187
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: her in this video, and now you're saying she's crazy.

1188
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: So one always tell the truth. Always tell the truth.

1189
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: You cannot lie because it's gonna catch up with you.

1190
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: Don't ever lie. Own your stuff. I think you should

1191
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: own it before anyone else finds it. Just own it,

1192
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, um, because it's gonna come out. It's it's

1193
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: I am shocked stuff that people can find out, Like

1194
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: whoever these super fans, oh my gosh, oh my gosh,

1195
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: just recently, they can get hired by p I S

1196
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: or something. I know. Well, just recently there was a

1197
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: article that came out where I was on Heather de

1198
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: Bros Podcast and This was in two thousand, nineteen or eighteen,

1199
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: and we talked about She told me like she knew

1200
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: about Gina getting arrested and d u I and La

1201
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: La La la, and then laid Then fast forward to

1202
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: two she basically is like, I had no idea, and

1203
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: people dug that up. I you cannot lie. You cannot lie.

1204
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: You cannot lie because they will come back to bite

1205
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: you when they asked. That's few. So Teresa is moving on.

1206
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: She's excited about her life with Louis, and she sold

1207
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: her house, which I don't know, I kind of felt

1208
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: it was sad. It was that was kind of a

1209
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: sad moment. She's moving. The girls are not happy. I mean,

1210
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's not happy, but it's hard. When they

1211
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: moved into that house, I remember her picking out the backsplash,

1212
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: like I remember that, and I remember how little her

1213
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: girls were, Um, how excited she was, you know, for

1214
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: her redone house. Um. But I think the thing that

1215
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: I love about Jersey is we've grown up with their

1216
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: families and their kids and like I and they don't

1217
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: change the cast all the time. Yeah, Like we fell

1218
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: in love with Gina and Adriana. Adriana her daughter's name Gabriella.

1219
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: Like we know her kids, and we care about what

1220
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: happens to them when their dad a moment to jail,

1221
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: Like we care, we care, we care now, and so

1222
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: I literally put our life on hold to wait to

1223
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: see what was gonna happen when they got out. Like

1224
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: I do feel like Teresa is a huge staple in

1225
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: that show. I really do, and like it for them

1226
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: to lose, and you can see the pain and the

1227
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: kids because you know, those kids love your dad so much.

1228
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: You can see it when they talk about him. I mean,

1229
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine. It's I think it's heartbreaking.

1230
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: I understand from Teresa's perspective she wants to move on

1231
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: with her new family in life. I get that, and

1232
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: I support her. She needs to. I get that, But

1233
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, I see how it's hard for her kids,

1234
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: and I mean, it made me sad to see them

1235
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: packing up and moving out of that house. But you know,

1236
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: looking forward to the future as your kids get older.

1237
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: But let's move into really dive into hockey, because you

1238
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: have a lot of experience with this absolutely heartbreaking, you know.

1239
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: She posted a picture recently with her and her husband,

1240
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: and she was so frail, like her arms were so thin.

1241
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: And I think that people don't understand um, with anorexia,

1242
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: maybe you're not physically like a skeleton, but you still

1243
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: up here like you can't comprehend eating food, and you know,

1244
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: somebody like for me, like I've had struggles with food,

1245
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: Like I definitely I'm not the norm. I'm like, I'm

1246
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: gonna eat this, this and this. Like when she said,

1247
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: like I don't eat ice cream, Like we go out

1248
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: for ice cream. I do the same thing if we

1249
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: go out of the family and we have frozen yogurt,

1250
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: I don't need it. And I'm like, wow, Like, you

1251
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: know that is putting a message to your children. Obviously

1252
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: she has full blown anorexia. It's affected her, her kids

1253
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: in the way that they see her. And she's being

1254
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: very brave to me to open up about this. And

1255
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: you know a lot about it be has your daughter

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01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: has gone through it. I mean, rowan is. I think

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01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that I do love that Bravo

1258
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: was doing. Um Bravo has a tendency to put bows

1259
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: on things, you know, and I've noticed they've done it

1260
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: with a few eating disorder stories and now we're fine,

1261
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: and eating disorder is very similar to sobriety. It's one

1262
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: day at a time. You're never recovered, You're always recovering.

1263
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: And I like that they're giving the story justice because

1264
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: I think other people struggling will realize you're always struggling.

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01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: Some days are better than others. That the time where

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01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: they talked about how she couldn't go away for four days,

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01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: that hit home to me. I remember a trip with Rowan.

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01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: You know, she could only eat carriage sticks and hummus.

1269
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: It was the only thing you could eat and at

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01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: a certain point we had to come home early. Um,

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01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: and it consumes you. I don't get ice cream when

1272
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: I go out with the kids either, but that's it

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01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: doesn't consume me. And that's the difference in your life.

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01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: I just I don't think about food that much. All

1275
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: people that are and actually think about his food and

1276
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: not eating it. How many calories is this the weighing

1277
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: out of the food? How often can I work out?

1278
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean it is. When Rowan was in the height

1279
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: of it during the pandemic, it was I mean, it

1280
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: was exhausting to watch her sad and there was nothing

1281
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: I could do to help. Um. You know, I did

1282
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: a page six thing with her about about it because

1283
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: she never got to tell her story. They cut it

1284
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: all out, and you know, she does talk about how

1285
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: she's doing better and these tools that have helped her.

1286
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: Obviously therapy is a big one, but like I do,

1287
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: I do love the Jackies being so honest and so

1288
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: vulnerable and her husband so supportive, Yeah, so sweet. So

1289
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: he's like, maybe I don't care what size you are,

1290
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: like I love you for who you are, And that

1291
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: just broke my heart. And then also when she told

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01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: the story about putting lipstick on in high school and

1293
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: a boy walking past her and saying it's not going

1294
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: to help and she and she basically said, I'm so

1295
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: effing gross, and that, like that literally almost brought me

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: to tear. Is to think, like that you that you

1297
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: really think that, like I'm so freaking gross, or the

1298
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: fact that what that one boy said so not even realizing,

1299
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: has these long term consequences. I think this is the

1300
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: beauty of housewives. That moment is the beauty of housewives. Yes,

1301
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, yes, the bickering and that this that he

1302
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 1: should she should. I don't watch for that. I don't

1303
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: identify with that in my life anymore. That moment with

1304
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: Jackie with her the therapist and her with her husband,

1305
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: that's what we need more of that. I'd love seeing it.

1306
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of like you know, it's it's painful,

1307
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to watch, it's hurtful, it's but it's also

1308
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: eye opening. Yeah, and there's a lot of people they're

1309
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: gonna be saved by that. I can't imagine her d

1310
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: M s right now. Um, you know, I hope she

1311
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: has someone that can help her get through them because

1312
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: she's going to save lives. Yeah, and then we're gonna

1313
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: move on to Jennifer and her husband Bill at lunch.

1314
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you followed this, but um, he

1315
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: had an affair on her ten years ago and he's

1316
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: very dismissive of it, like it happened, well, deal with it, right.

1317
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it is like I don't

1318
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: want to film and talk about this kind of attitude

1319
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: or that's how he treats it. Because she finally found

1320
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: her voice last night, like she finally was like, listen,

1321
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: you're not helping matters, like you're not helping me in this,

1322
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: You're not supporting me, like you cheated on me. And

1323
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: the bottom line is at this point, if we divorced,

1324
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: I get half, and I'm like, you get half. I mean,

1325
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the transformation of Jin from her first

1326
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: season on the show, where she's a stay at home

1327
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: mom to five kids who had never left your kids

1328
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: for a vacation. Do you remember that? Yes, they went

1329
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: to a farm and she had never left them, and

1330
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: he was giving that. I remember him being like, good

1331
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: moms don't leave their kids. I was like, wait, would um?

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01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: And now I'm looking at her. You can tell she

1333
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: had like one drink and she's like she kind of

1334
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: gets and so anyways, so half, I'm taking half, just

1335
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: so you know half. So keep it up, Ash and

1336
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,959
Speaker 1: keep it up. And did you notice he turned red

1337
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: and got redder and redder and read her as she

1338
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: kept talking. He's like, oh shit, I'm screwed. I mean,

1339
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: I personally loved Jin. I know her in real life

1340
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: and I love her. So for me to see her

1341
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: just lean back and be like m m, yeah, boy,

1342
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: you better watch and you better watch it right. Yeah?

1343
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: So that was that was That was actually a really

1344
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: good scene. I really enjoyed that. And then they move

1345
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: on to Dolores's softball event. Can I just say I

1346
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: love Dolores? Yeah, I love her. I love her. I've

1347
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: never met her, but I love her. I love her

1348
01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: relationship with her ex. I mean, she's changing everything out

1349
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: there that you can have an accent, you can actually

1350
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: hang out with, have fun with, like you're once in

1351
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: love with this person, and it just, I don't know,

1352
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: it just feels good, right, I mean I do. I

1353
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: will say I looked to her and Frank as role

1354
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: models for what I'm trying. They're one role models anybody

1355
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: wants to if you're getting divorced, watch to Lauras and

1356
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: Frank because they have such a great relationship and they

1357
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: have kids together, and it gives me hope. It gives

1358
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: me They give me hope. She gives me hope, and

1359
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: I love it. Raised so much money I know. Okay,

1360
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: so Dolores a softball event they're raising money for. I

1361
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: can't remember what the charity is, but it's something to

1362
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: do with breast illness. Maybe I think it's her breast

1363
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 1: cancer and breast cancer. Yeah, I mean, she just she

1364
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 1: kept it real. She was sweet, she was nice, she

1365
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: was all you could tell. She was generally worried about

1366
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: raising money. You know, a lot of a lot of

1367
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: girls go on there like I'm gonna I'm gonna do

1368
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: a charity event because it's gonna make me look so cool.

1369
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 1: That's not the vibe I got from her. She's like, listen,

1370
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing. I've had my own issues

1371
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: with breast like biopsies, like I'm trying to raise money,

1372
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: and it totally showed like she was amazing. I got

1373
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: to meet them at the Salt Lake City premiere that

1374
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: Meredith hosted in New York, and I've met like, I've

1375
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: met it most of them more than once, but I

1376
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: met her real for the first time, and she's just

1377
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: so cool and down to earth and nice and like,

1378
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: I love the Jersey women as people, like as characters.

1379
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: I love them as characters, but as people, I love

1380
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: them too, And that's like a rare That's a rare

1381
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: breed right there. Yeah, So Teresa recently unfollowed me. Sorry

1382
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: and her man, I know, I actually like her. She's

1383
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: very sweet. Um, she han't followed me, and I think

1384
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: that she didn't hear the whole story. So the press

1385
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: went crazy. I basically said that all the affirmations and

1386
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: all the stuff that Louie was giving her on camera

1387
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: kind of reminded me of how Brooks was with Vicky,

1388
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 1: because he would give her cards and affirmations. I didn't

1389
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: mean anything more than that. So I'm sorry, Teresa, sorry

1390
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: you and followed me. I don't know center flowers, center

1391
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: affirm center flowers, center flowers, but I do love like.

1392
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: Teresa's a hustler, she's a money maker. She's like, listen, bitches.

1393
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't like any of you, and I'm not happy

1394
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: with any of you. But here is my new workoutline.

1395
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: Can you please wear it? When you I'm like, you go.

1396
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: You got a girl, You're like a savage, Like here

1397
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: you go, there you go. I can't stand any of you.

1398
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: Where my shit? Yeah, I can't stand any of you.

1399
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: Awear your ship. Okay, So we're coming to the end.

1400
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: So I just want to do some fan new Jersey

1401
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: fan thoughts, um and one of the thoughts where the

1402
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: husbands on the franchise are the most entertaining. Absolutely we

1403
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: agree with that, right, I mean that one scene a

1404
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: few seasons ago drunk Dogorga following on the floor Priceless Island. Yeah,

1405
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,560
Speaker 1: I just think it is. It's like I feel like

1406
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: if Eddie was a round guys like that, he would

1407
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: be he would fit in, he would have fun. He's

1408
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: never like, since I've been casted, the guys have never

1409
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: had a good, you know, mix of guys that promoted that.

1410
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: Though in Orange County they never promoted the family aspect

1411
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: as much as the women fighting. I think every show

1412
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 1: has their niche. Jersey is the family show. I love it.

1413
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 1: I love it. It's funny because I'm really deep diving

1414
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 1: into all these shows now and being on the outside

1415
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: looking in. Obviously it's hard for me to look into

1416
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: Orange County and talk about it because it's too close

1417
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: to my heart. But the other shows, I'm like, oh

1418
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: my god, this is freaking amazing, Like I am now

1419
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: a super fan, Like this is crazy. So one fan

1420
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: thought is that they're not enjoying Jia getting into the

1421
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: mix because, after all, she is a kid. But yet

1422
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: she's she's crossing that age where she's into her twenties now,

1423
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: like is she still a kid or is she she

1424
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 1: have an opinion like whatever? G has grown up on

1425
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: the show. She's been the voice of reason more times

1426
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: than the grown ups have, like let's let's take a

1427
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 1: step back. That girl has been more reasonable than her parents,

1428
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 1: oh or her uncle many a time, many a time,

1429
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: So we don't I don't really care. I didn't I

1430
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: offended because of course, Margaret's not going to go after her.

1431
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: You always support your mom. Like my thing is, I

1432
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: can say mean things to my mom, did you better not?

1433
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 1: You know? Right? Right? And we all agree with that.

1434
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: So of course I wasn't offended by it. Let her,

1435
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: she's in her twenties. Hour let her have in her

1436
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: opinion of Jackie, showing her absolute beautiful story. So proud

1437
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: of her, I am too. Well, we'll do a couple

1438
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 1: of different headlines, get them out real quickly. Only have

1439
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes left. Um, well, but the top one.

1440
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: Tambra Judge claims and niece Richard tried to hook up

1441
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: with her at Bravo Con In two thousand nineteen. Tambra

1442
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: Judge claims at Brandy Glandfill and niece Richard tried to

1443
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: hook up with her at Bravo Con. Multiple sources exclusively

1444
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: confirmed to page six, and starters familiar with the situation

1445
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: tell us that the bombshell do they call me a

1446
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,879
Speaker 1: bombshell tell us the bombshell claim was made or bombshell

1447
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: line was made during Judge and Glenville's were filming. I

1448
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: don't really have much to say about this, UM. I

1449
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: think my only comment was what took so long? Because

1450
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: we've all known about this since Bravo con Well, I'm

1451
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: not gonna say much on this. UM, it's not as

1452
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: bad as what they make it out to be like

1453
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: is very I mean I I learned about it from

1454
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: some crew members that worked on both shows, like, oh

1455
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: my god, the funniest thing just happened. That's what we're

1456
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,759
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna definitely hear more about that, UM coming

1457
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: up on the Ultimate Girls Trip that I think it's

1458
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 1: gonna Aaron June, I cannot wait. I cannot wait for you.

1459
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 1: I know. The first look at the Real House is

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01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 1: Atlanta Explosive Reunion fourteen trailer. UM. It was crazy and

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to their season. I have not watched

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Speaker 1: Atlanta in years, but our friend James worked on it

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Speaker 1: and he said it was amazing. Oh, I can only

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Speaker 1: imagine somemazing. I'm not even get into it. Let's see um. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Bethany Franklois slam through a Housewives of New York

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Speaker 1: for the reboot as boring. Okay, I think we all know.

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Speaker 1: When Andy Cohen announces the unique plan for the future

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Speaker 1: of Real house of New York, there were going to

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Speaker 1: be some strong opinions, and former iconic housewife Bethany Frankel

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Speaker 1: is full of strong opinions, so naturally, she took to

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Speaker 1: social media to give her thoughts and throwing some shade.

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Speaker 1: As reported by his Page six, Bethany used a TikTok

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Speaker 1: trend to express herself. She lip sync to audio that said,

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Speaker 1: it's a long story and it's very effinge boring. Bethany

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Speaker 1: then captioned my thoughts on the Real Housewife's reboots. So

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Speaker 1: it's safe to say Bethany is not going to be

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Speaker 1: a part of the Real Housewives of New York reboot

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Speaker 1: or the legacy. Um. I kind of feel like what

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Speaker 1: Bravo is doing with that is freaking amazing. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, we don't know where to go forward

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Speaker 1: from here. So much has happened. Let's bring in young

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Speaker 1: new people and start over. Let's start all over. So

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Speaker 1: I'm a New Yorker now, like I live there part time,

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Speaker 1: and my version of New York is nothing like the ones.

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Speaker 1: I mean. Beviously I've run into Ramona sometimes restaurants, but like,

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Speaker 1: there was such a cool hip vibe to New York

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Speaker 1: that you really love York, Like the Epperast Side isn't

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01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,560
Speaker 1: the only part of New York. You know. I'm considering

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Speaker 1: getting an apartment in New York because I just love

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Speaker 1: it so much. Oh, I would love that. I would

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Speaker 1: love Maybe I can be part of the reboot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just kidd I'm just kidding. But I think that's all

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Speaker 1: we have for today. Ron Wynday, so much for co

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Speaker 1: hosting with me today. It was so much fun. And

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Speaker 1: also that I finally got to like see you and

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Speaker 1: catch out. We have been trying to get together for

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Speaker 1: lunch four months now and we actually ended up doing

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Speaker 1: it virtually, which I'm okay with. But we still we

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Speaker 1: still need to to go to lunch together, and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll do it soon. Let me know when

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Speaker 1: you're free, we'll catch up. I still want you to

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Speaker 1: meet Victoria. She wants to meet you so bad. I

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01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: want to meet her. Yeah, you're gonna love her. You're

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Speaker 1: going two. She's you're gonna look at her and go Okay,

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Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah yeah, Well, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for filling in for Teddy while she's out Lane and

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Speaker 1: the Sun Hi. I know she she was bummed she

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Speaker 1: couldn't be here, But thank you so much and I

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Speaker 1: love you. Bye, guys ye