WEBVTT - The BroadCast: 6/11/2018 ~ Draft Pod - SBNation's Ricky O'Donnell Updates Draft Board 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:03.640 A sure sign that the NBA Draft is drawing that 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:07.880 much closer. Seventy Sixers hosting a six player prospect workout 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:11.760 at their training complex and Camden on Monday. We'll talk 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.360 with SB Nation College Hoops editor Ricky O'Donnell on this 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:19.040 episode of the podcast. We'll talk about the Bridges, Miles 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:21.760 and mcale, and also some other guys who the seventy 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.000 Sixers had in the gym for the workout on Monday. 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.880 Before we get to that chat, a reminder that to 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:30.479 subscribe to the broadcast, you can go to a couple 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:34.040 of places. We're on iTunes, We're on Google Play and Stitcher. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.760 You can type in Sixers podcast Network that should take 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.160 you to our feeds. We're also on SoundCloud at SoundCloud 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:44.920 dot com, backslash Sixers. Just like that, it feels like 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.080 the draft is at our doorstep. Just a month ago, 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.600 the seventy Sixers were in postseason action. Now, with Brett 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.680 Brown in control of the basketball operations department for the 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.400 time being, the Sixers setting their sites forward on the draft. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.440 On Monday, the Sixers had a handful of prospects in 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.200 Camden to work out, among them Miles, Bridges and Lonnie 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.679 Walker the fourth a pair of projected top ten picks, 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.720 depending on which mocks you like. Also shake Milton, the 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.600 guy who's hovering in the second round range. So to 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.560 talk about that stuff and other subplots related to what 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.880 we'll go down on June twenty. First, we bring on 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:24.800 a great friend of our draft coverage at SPN Underscore, Ricky. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.920 It's Ricky O'Donnelly as the college hoops editor and NBA 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.319 assign editor at SB Nation. Ricky, what's going on? Man? 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.160 Okay brand? How are you now? I don't want to 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:37.640 start the interview off on a relatively testy note, but 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.160 I gotta ask are you a dissenter by nature? Do 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.480 you view yourself as a contrarian? I was looking at 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.199 other mocks as of late, and I think the latest 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.000 one you put out has Luca donchich at number one 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.880 of the Suns. Yeah. I did that a few weeks 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.200 ago before it sort of has become apparent that it 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.000 looks like Eton is going to be the first pick. 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.920 I guess we'll find out for sure a week from Thursday, 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.120 but I guess, in general, my overall evaluation of the class, 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.880 I do think Don Sitch is the best player. Downstitch 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.320 and Jaren Jackson are our two favorite players in this class. 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.040 It's crazy, given the recent buzz, it seems like both 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.240 those guys might fall out of the top three, top four, 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.639 maybe even so. I mean, we'll see how it goes. 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:17.960 I wouldn't say that I'm a contrarian by nature, but 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.440 I think, you know, just sort of evaluating the way 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.520 the league has gone recently, I think that those are 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.680 sort of the two players that fit BEAST in the 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.080 way we play basketball today. And that's kind of what 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:30.800 I wanted to get to the point of before we 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.359 dive into some seventy six ers related things. Even though 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.840 Aton appears on the top of a lot of mocks, 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.639 there's this, I feel like general undercurrent of feeling that 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.560 Donch very well might be the best all round player 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.200 that could be in this year's draft class. Is that 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.040 kind of what the point of view putting him there 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:53.720 was all about? Yeah, I think that to me, down 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.400 Stitch is just going to have the greatest impact on winning. 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.160 So if you want to talk Downstitch versus eighton, like, 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.519 I think Eton is safe back to put up absolutely 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:03.800 huge numbers. He could average, you know, twenty five and 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.360 thirteen or something like that. But what's his impact on 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.560 winning going to be? I feel like his question marks 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.919 on the defensive end of the floor are really legitimate. 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.320 He just showed off poor instincts at Arizona. Now he 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.799 certainly has the physicality to end up being a good 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.920 defensive player, a great defensive player, maybe even he really 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:25.520 has that DeAndre Jordan Dwight Howard type of size, athleticism, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.080 strength combination. But he's the first player in that mold 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.679 who really has touch with the basketball. He's a really 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.840 good free throw shooter, He's going to be a quality 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.880 three point shooter, soft touch around the rim, he can 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.000 finish in just a variety of ways. So it's very 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.840 easy to see the appeal of DeAndre eighton to me. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.520 But I do think there's legitimate questions that has impact 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.640 on the defensive end of the floor. And we're in 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.800 an error right now. We're even good defensive centers like 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.360 Rudy Gobert and Clint Capella are started becoming part time 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.800 players in the playoffs, So I think it's fair to 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.840 question is impact on that end, And then you can 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.960 contrast it with Luca. I don't know if Luca's ever 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:02.920 going to put up huge per game numbers, but he's 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:04.800 someone to me who just does all the little things 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:07.480 you need. He sort of fits perfectly into an era 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:11.240 that values ball handling, passing, and shooting. There are questions 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.920 about his athleticism, to be sure, but you know, you 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.400 can contrast that with the prospects like Andrew Wiggins, who 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.599 was a great raw athlete, and maybe he hasn't totally 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.320 lived up to the hype as a former number one 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.120 pick because the skill level wasn't as high as some 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.680 people thought it could be. So I would go Luca 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.920 number one. I think Jaren Jackson also has a great, 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.120 great case to be number one. I would put him 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.520 as the best of the big man group, despite the 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.200 fact that you know, he didn't have the per game 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.440 numbers that matched up with eight or Marvin Bagley. But 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.560 it's a loaded draft class, there's no doubt about it. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.960 It's interesting that it's all bigs during a time you 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.520 know five of the first seven picks could be big 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.960 man during a time when you know the center position 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.600 is really evolved. So I think that that's what makes 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.080 this draft class fun and it's going to be fascinating 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.320 to see how it all plays out next Thursday before 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.440 we move off of Luca. What if he drops out 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.239 of the top three or four. What type of domino 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:03.000 effect can you see that? Having on perhaps the team's 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.600 currently in those slots and then teams that would you 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.159 expect there to be a possible push for teams to 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.320 get up towards that range to possibly grab him. Yeah, 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.360 I mean you could definitely see a scenario playing out 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.919 where Eighton goes number one, Badley goes number two, and 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:21.400 then three it's either Jaren Jackson or Bomba. So potentially 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.280 he could be there at four. He could even be 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.320 there at five for Dallas. Four from Memphis, five for Dallas. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.840 I do think you could see teams trade up, but 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:31.800 you know, it is so tough to trade up in 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.159 the NBA draft. It's like you really just want to 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:35.680 get your guy, if you want to compare it to 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.600 like the NFL Draft, when you always want to trade 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.279 back and try to accumulate picks. In the NBA, I 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.480 feel like with only two rounds and only one round 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.520 of true impact players, I think that you just want 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.320 to get your guys. So, you know, that could potentially 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.800 be really interesting if someone does want to trade up 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.880 for Luca and someone based in Chicago. I mean, I 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.120 would love to see my bowls to try to move 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.520 up with seven and twenty two and maybe Bobby Partists 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.000 to move up a few spots to get a chance 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.560 as at Luca. But you wonder how realistic that is 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.800 in the NBA, I feel you rarely see big trade up. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.840 Of course, it happened last year with Donovan Mitchell between 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:08.560 the Nuggets and the Jazz for the Jazz to go 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.280 up and get Mitchell. So you know, that could be 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.960 a fascinating subplot as the draft gets closer. I do 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:15.919 think that Luca is the type of talent that teams 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:17.960 would want to make a move for to get up 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.200 in the draft to take. It's just a question of 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.080 is there enough value coming to Memphis or to Dallas 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.200 for them to pull the trigger on that. When your 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.480 latest pieces for sp Nation wanted monitored NBA big Men, 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.839 you referenced Eton and where he's at. But the other 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.480 three that you could throw into that class of top 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.920 tier big men that are available this year, how would 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.920 you break those guys down? Yeah? I think they all 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:44.080 are really intriguing in their own way. Mo Bomba. I 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:48.400 mean just so tantalizing. His combination of length, impossible shooting, touch, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.600 seven ten wingspan will be the longest in the NBA. 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.600 From the minity steps on the court, He's someone who 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.359 really does have the quickness to stay with guards on 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.320 the defensive end. You would think that would make him 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.280 a perfect fit for the current league, but I do 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.800 think there's some certains about what he can do on 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.760 the offensive end. He's someone who I've been watching since 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.320 he was sixteen. I saw him at USA Basketball Camp 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.840 back in twenty fifteen when he was just sort of 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.600 establishing himself as a top recruit. I haven't seen him 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.520 got that much better since then. He's still sort of 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.400 the same guy who's more prospect than player. To me, 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:20.880 I just wonder what he can do with the ball 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:22.160 in his hands. He's gonna be able to make him 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:23.680 move to put the ball on the floor or to 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.320 beat you at the jump shot. He's always had potential 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.000 as a jumpshooter, but I think that as a shot 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.040 NBA teams are going to give him from day one. 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.720 And then you wonder about his defensive impact. If he's 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.360 forced to guard more of a perimeter player at the five, 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.520 someone like let's just say Draymond Green, someone who can 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:39.960 beat you from the perimeters. You can be able to 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.400 stay locked in as he's someone who is going to 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.240 rely a little bit too much on his instincts to 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.160 defend the paint. So bomb is certainly in treating. Some 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.600 people have him in this class in the top three. 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.200 I would be a little less optimistic on Bombo, but 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.320 you know, his ceiling is really as high as anyone's. 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:57.880 If he hits it, he's going to be a terrific 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:01.120 and unique player. Then you can go to Marvin Bagley. 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.480 Bagley sort of similar to Eton in a sense where 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.200 they both put up massive per game numbers for big 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:11.040 time schools. Bagley, of course a duke, just a terrific 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.040 offensive player. I think that he's an automatic finisher inside. 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.080 He's so athletic, he could jump two or three times 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.640 before anyone else can jump once. And he has does 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.080 such soft touch around the rim, and really he's more 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.080 advanced with his footwork than a lot of people give 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:25.800 him credit. For two. I think he just finds ways 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.320 to sort of leverage his athleticism and leverage his strength 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.800 to score around the basket. I think defensively, there's major 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.520 questions similar to Eton, because he doesn't really have a 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:36.760 true fit. Is he four? Is he fives? He can 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.440 be able to defend on the perimeter enough to be 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.880 a four, that's a question mark. Is he can be 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:42.640 able to block shots enough to be a five. He 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:44.439 doesn't really have the length to do it. He put 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.640 up a really bad shot blocking and steals numbers while 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.960 at Duke. So you know Bagley, you can see the 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.040 talent there. I think if he develops as a shooter 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.520 and as a ball handler, he couldn't eventually turn into 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.599 a really unique offensive player. I would probably take a 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.360 gamble on Bagley, you know, somewhere around I don't know, 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:05.080 four or five. But then you transition to Jared Jackson 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.280 and to meet Jaren Jackson started the most complete big 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.920 man in this class. He didn't put up big numbers. 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.280 I think only average about eleven points and six rebounds 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.320 a game from Michigan State. This year he barely even 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.679 played in the round at thirty two loss to Syracuse. 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.880 But he's someone who just has the total package of 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:21.680 what you're looking for for a modern big man today. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.880 He's a forty percent three point shooter. And eighty percent 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.079 free throw shooter. He actually blocked more shots per minute 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.520 than Mobamba, so he's terrific on the defensive end. He 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.559 also sort of has that agility to switch every position defensively, 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.120 and I think his ball handling is just sort of 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.160 scratching the surface too. There are a couple of plays 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.760 this year where you just don't see guys who are 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.760 six to eleven with a seven five wing spender Jaren 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.680 Jackson be able to cross the guy over between his 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.800 legs and take him off the dribble. So I like 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.960 Jackson the bast side of the big men class. And 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.640 you know, we'll see if NBA teams agree with that 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.320 when the draft rolls drown on Thursday. Could you see 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.120 a situation which Wendell Carter could be on the board 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.680 at number ten where the sixers are currently slotted, as 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:03.720 we'd be into segue our conversation that way, that would 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.720 be a pretty big fall. I mean, is he gonna 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.400 get past the Bulls at seven, the Calves at eight, 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.600 the Knicks at nine? All those teams could potentially take 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.719 Wendell Carter. Certainly, there's a lot to like about his game. 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:17.920 I mean, Wendell Carter just does everything so well. He's 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.439 another player I've been watching since high school doing recruiting 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.800 coverage fresponation dot com. I could see him turning into 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.560 the best jump shooter of the eight and Bagley bomba group. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.640 He just has a really smooth, compact stroke. He didn't 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.199 take a lot of threes at Duke, but he made 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:36.040 over forty percent of him when he did. Terrific rebounder, 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.840 really good inside and score. In a league that's downsizing, 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:42.680 you wonder if someone with Carter's just interior strength and 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.120 his ability to bully people in the paint could be 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.240 a good way to zag when everyone else is digging. 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.440 In a sense, I do think there's questions about his 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.080 lateral quickness, and certainly that's going to be a big 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.480 issue in today's game when everyone's switching defensively so much so, 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.040 you know, you watch the Western Conference finals and could 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.880 Wendell Carter or survive in a Rockets Warriors series. To me, 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.920 he's probably only playing in twenty or twenty five minutes 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.400 a game in that scenario. At the same time, he's 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.280 going to be a really dependable big man. And you 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:10.960 look at all the teams that were in you know, 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.800 even reached the second round of the playoffs this year. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.760 They all had good big so Wendell Carter to me, 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.680 could end up being really underrated if people are over 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.520 analyzing his lack of quickness. I don't know if he's 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.480 going to be available for Philadelphia at ten, you know, 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:25.920 but if he did, he could be a really good 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.000 fit in that front point next to Mbid and Simmons. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.319 Probably no accident though, right that. A lot of the 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.760 mocks out there are, including one that you guys did. 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.720 Sp Nation has a Bridges, whether it's Miles Bridges or 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:40.960 mcale Bridges at number ten for the Sixers, right yeah, 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.240 I think you just sort of look at what Philadelphia needs. 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.760 They definitely have a hole on the wing. You saw 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.040 this year they're playing Ilio Silvan Bell and Elly and 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.000 crunch Time Minutes, two guys they picked up in the 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.560 middle of the season. So I think either of the 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:57.280 Bridges would be a great fit for the seventy sixers. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.640 If you want more of a pure three and D guy, 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:03.400 I think McHale is the pick. Obviously, he's from the area. 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.120 He played at Villanova, won two national titles there. He's 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.559 someone who just got better every single season during his 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.200 four years of college basketball, He's turned into basically a 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.479 knockdown shooter. He's one of the best shooters in this class. Defensively, 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.360 he's able to get after it because of his length. 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.240 He really competes on that end as well. He is 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.400 a little skinny, though, so I wonder, you know, if 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.120 you're drafting a guy who sort of has limited creation 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.520 ability offensively like McHale does, you sort of want him 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.240 to be a lockdown defender, the type of guy who 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.839 potentially defend James Harden, Kevin Durana, Lebrown, James as well 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.280 as anyone could defend those guys if it's even possible. 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:37.559 But I think he's really gonna need to add a 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.400 lot of strength to do that. He's also one of 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.720 the older prospects who's going to be taken in the lottery, 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.560 being in college for four years. So as long as 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.600 McHale Gridge just stays in his lane as someone who 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.839 can get into the passing lanes, disrupt defensively of his length, 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.520 and hit open threes, he's gonna be really good. I 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.480 do think someone like Miles Bridges might have a little 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.200 more upside because I think that he's much more athletic, 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:01.079 and he has some more potentials to create. He's someone 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.040 who at Michigan State he was always sort of putting 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.720 a weird position playing small forward when he's a little 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.360 bit more of a downhill combo for it. I would 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.920 think you'd like to see him uses the lead athleticism 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:13.760 to get to the room a little bit more often. 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.160 I think that that could happen in the NBA with 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.800 a more spaced floor, with you know, a more traditional 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.480 point guard around him who can get him the ball. 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.280 So Miles Bridges, he was settling for the jumper a 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.320 little too often at Michigan State. But you know, you 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:30.000 just watch a series like Celtics has in the Eastern 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.480 Conference Finals, or you look at the Western Conference finals 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.160 series between the Rockets and the Warriors. To me, Miles 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.439 Bridges is he's the type of guy who could be 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.920 on the floor in that setting. Six foot six super athlete, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.200 can pass a little, can shoot a little, can dribble 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.520 a little. He's not lead at any of those skills, 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.360 but I think his baseline competency is high enough for 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.400 him to be able to do all of them at 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:54.040 a reasonably high level. And you know, His athleticism is 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:55.920 just so intriguing too, So as long as you sort 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.280 of get him going downhill, I would love to see 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.480 him running in a transition with Ben. I think that 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.520 would be really fun. In Philadelphia, seventy six ers had 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.120 Miles Bridges in for a workout on Monday, the same 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.040 day that Lonnie Walker was a part of that group. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:12.880 What type of momentum has Walker built up himself. Yeah, 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.360 Walker was a guy who was a five star recruit 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.400 out of high school McDonald's All American. He tore his 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:23.320 meniscus right before Miami season started. He came back relatively 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.880 quickly from that operation, but it took him some time 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.520 sort of build up, strengthened that leg and confidence in 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.720 his game making the transition to the ACC when he's 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.400 a just bastl Lonnie Walker definitely looks like a lottery pick. 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:39.280 He's someone who's six four six ten wingspan, really wiry athlete, 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:43.640 very strong, good compact shooting stroke. His numbers didn't always 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.280 back up his talent level though. I think he only 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.880 had a fifty three percent true shooting percentage at Miami 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.280 in his one year. Coincidentally, that's the same number as 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.400 Jaylen Brown. I had questions about Jaylen Brown when he 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.480 was coming out of cow into the draft. He's proven 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.120 me wrong. He's been terrific for the Celtics. So you 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.360 wonder if perhaps Lonnie Walker could be the same thing 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.360 where he was in a great situation in college. His 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:07.360 talent level sort of supersedes his production, and you know, 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.120 the best version of Lonnie Walker. If he does reach 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.080 you know, his ceiling, he's just gonna be a really 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.000 valuable player in this league because he's gonna be able 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.080 to defend, he's gonna be able to shoot, and he 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.280 gives you some added creation ability that maybe some of 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.840 these other guys in that spot don't have. So I 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.320 like Lonnie Walker a lot. I'd be willing to roll 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.560 the dice on him. To me, the question with him 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.640 is more like, where's his feel for the game at 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.840 it It's kind of hard to tell that at Miami. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.880 I think physically he sort of does have everything you're 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.400 looking for. But is he gonna be able to lockdown defensively? 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:38.920 Is he gonna be able to read the floor, make 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.640 the right pass, make quick decisions? Those are the question 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.560 marks with Lonnie Walker heading into this draft. He said 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.600 in recent weeks that he thinks he might be able 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.080 to defend one through three. Do you see that you 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.840 see him more strictly limited to the backcourt. Well, he's 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:54.800 got the length to do it, and I think just 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.160 in this era of the league, everyone switches defensively, So yeah, 0:15:58.240 --> 0:15:59.680 Linie Walker is the type of guy you're looking for. 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.760 Him makes up for his lack of height with that 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.720 six ten wingspan. So yeah, theoretically, why couldn't Lennywalker guard 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.320 one through three? I think that he's one of the 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.640 players in this draft who's sort of uniquely suited to 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.320 do that, because, let's be honest, most of this draft 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.400 is big. Man. If you're looking for a wing with 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.760 some athleticism and some shooting potential, he's definitely an intriguing option. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.400 You referenced your bulls a few minutes ago. What about 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.840 Michael Porter. How has he been handling himself and what's 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.480 been some of the scuttle butt on him to the 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.280 pre draft period. Obviously everyone knew where he stood in 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.520 terms of prospect rankings this time a year ago. The 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.000 college season didn't go his way, but he seems to 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.760 have a lot of confidence in himself. Definitely a confident 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.200 player already carries himself like an NBA guy. I saw 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.120 him player as a high school junior and senior when 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.720 he was healthy, I thought he was terrific. But in 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.800 those settings there was no doubt about his role, and 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.720 his role was as a go to scorer. He's been 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:53.600 built up his entire life as someone who's going to 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.320 score thirty points a game in the NBA. The question 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.560 I have is, even if he ends up being healthy, 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.400 and the back injuries certainly really scary, I think, but 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.880 even if he ends up being healthy, how much of 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:05.520 an impact is he going to have on winning if 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.800 he's not a guy who's going to score thirty a game, 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:09.159 and is he going to be able to do the 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.960 little things that contribute to winnings, just make plays on 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.199 the defensive end. He really hasn't try to propensity to 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.399 do that. I don't think he uses his scoring very 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.200 well to set up his teammates. He doesn't read the 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:23.160 floor while he's not advanced passer or ball handler at 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.639 this point, So basically the book on porters at the 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.119 raw talent level is obvious for anyone to see. He 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.240 measured at six foot eleven hypothetically he's a three level scorer, 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.720 but we don't have any data on where his three 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:35.440 point shot is at. Is he gonna be a thirty 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.560 five percent shooter, Is he gonna be a forty percent shooter. 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.360 Is he gonna be a thirty percent shooter from deep? 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.399 We don't really know yet. His ball handling is definitely 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:43.680 the thing he needs to work on the most, so 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:47.080 you can say that about arguably every young wing. I 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.480 do think that with the fact that he measured at 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.760 six to eleven, he really gives you some versatility to 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.320 move him around the chessboard in a sense, like an 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.800 NBA center might look more like Michael Porter Junior than 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.919 DeAndre eight five years from now. Everyone used Porter as 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:02.399