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Speaker 1: It's for John Nnick and Kenny Florian podcast. John Annick

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Speaker 1: and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I fucking love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that both the next big job brek Fiers.

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Speaker 4: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved

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Speaker 4: bullshit artists.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Primetime edition. That's gotta be really off putting if the

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Speaker 5: audio isn't good. It's Sunday, February twenty seven, twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 5: It's episode three thirty eight of the Anic and Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 5: I'm excited. It's six fifty three pm Eastern Standard time.

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow, you were taking a class this afternoon somewhere

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Speaker 5: on the East coast. Is that right? Your wife Clark

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Speaker 5: was texting me? No, I mean, how did what? What

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Speaker 5: are we learning about? Bitcoin? Class? What are we learning about?

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Speaker 5: Oh man?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 7: Your little weapons, little weapons class, you know, having some fun,

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Speaker 7: learn some new stuff.

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Speaker 5: So fun. Yeah, this guy's trying to turn himself into

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Speaker 5: more of a weapon than he already is. If you

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Speaker 5: subliminal reading into his social media language. Oh Si was

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Speaker 5: preparing for like an apocalypse. Kids probably all have passports already.

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Speaker 5: TSA pre check, right, They're all clear. I do think

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Speaker 5: we're at a time where it probably makes sense, you know,

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Speaker 5: to get passports for the children. You just never know.

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Speaker 5: You never know. That's the thing, you never know. If

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Speaker 5: things are great.

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Speaker 7: Listen, over the last three years, we know that anything

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Speaker 7: and anything, anything and everything can happen. But I'm not

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Speaker 7: you know, I'm not freaking out. I'm just I'm just

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Speaker 7: trying to learn some fun stuff, you know. Right, Well,

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Speaker 7: it's good to see it. It's a pay per view week.

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Speaker 7: It is a huge fight. Where are you gonna be

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Speaker 7: for Kolbe Covington and Jorge Mosfital this week? I will

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Speaker 7: be home. I'll be back home and ready to watch.

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Speaker 7: So I'll be back from the PFL on Saturday morning.

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Speaker 5: And your son is sleeping through the night, I mean

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Speaker 5: at this point he is finally Yeah, yes, thanks. So

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Speaker 5: is it hard for you to stay awake at like

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Speaker 5: twelve thirty pm Eastern time for a main event or no, dude, Yes,

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Speaker 5: yes it is.

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Speaker 7: It is like the pay per view ones because they

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Speaker 7: can go into like you know, twelve one am and

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Speaker 7: then coming off where I'm working to like twelve twelve

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Speaker 5: It's tough. So but even even if I'm not, even

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Speaker 5: if I'm not, I need I need to take a

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Speaker 5: nap to prepare for these things. Dude, Yeah, no doubt

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Speaker 5: about it. Bang a little coffee. You know he's a

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Speaker 5: drinking gatorade. Yeah. You got the PFL Challenger series on

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Speaker 5: UH on Friday night?

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Speaker 8: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: Yes? Nooe elbows though, bouelbows, no elbow. We need we

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Speaker 5: need to get that going. Yeah, we're working on UH

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Speaker 5: Florian submission fighting. By the way, Kent Flaugh and I

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Speaker 5: co promotion and he didn't want me to spill the

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Speaker 5: beans here, but UH, because it puts pressure on him

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Speaker 5: that's undue and he's already burying his head. We haven't

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Speaker 5: even talked Keith. We haven't even decided if Keith is

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Speaker 5: going to be involved. We love you, key, doctor Florian.

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Speaker 5: UH is financially back in the product. But it's it's

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Speaker 5: going to be a grappling league. We don't know if

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Speaker 5: it's going to be grappling with elbows or not. But

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Speaker 5: with the initial conversations have been had, is that fair to.

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Speaker 7: Say that's hilarious? Well, you know, listen, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I don't know about the whole Florian thing. We're gonna

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Speaker 5: We have to come up with the Isn't that amazing

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Speaker 5: how he deflects like you knew if he had a son,

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Speaker 5: which he did, it wasn't going to be Kenneth Allen

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Speaker 5: Flory in the second.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And they should try me in if they want to.

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Speaker 7: If they want us to do a submission, you know,

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, I mean I don't want to do commentary.

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Speaker 5: I just want to walk around. I want one of

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Speaker 5: nineteen seventy six. All right, Islam Mahkashev versus Bobby Green,

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Speaker 5: I mean, my man, Bruce Buffer. You know, I know

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Speaker 5: you're getting primetime manic, right, I can't stay on task.

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Speaker 5: he doesn't listen to the Anak and flooran podcast. And

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Speaker 5: this is my problem, you know, Makashev. It's not Makashev,

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Speaker 5: you know, right, and we're just spitting this out to

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Speaker 5: But Islam Makashev can flow. Yes, I don't know what

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Speaker 5: he does. What he does seem like an eventuality that

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Speaker 5: Shortly thereafter. What were your thoughts on Islam at the

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Speaker 7: I still I'm thinking about Bruce Buffer announcing you John Nick.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's like, come on, get it right, come on,

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Speaker 5: you know got it. We just got to connect Brucey

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Speaker 5: and I gotta con a. It's just a comedy. Uh

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Speaker 7: This was the problem is that even though Bobby Green,

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Speaker 7: would have fared much better, right, But Maha chef, He's

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Speaker 7: got mahas chefs. Sorry, I'm like, look it up too,

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Speaker 7: I practice chef. He's he's got skills on the feet too,

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Speaker 5: You just can't.

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Speaker 7: Like, he's he's a threat with his striking, and you

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Speaker 7: think that's even more dangerous and more impressive than their

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Speaker 7: I think right now there's maybe one guy that could

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Speaker 5: Charles OLIVERA all right, so we'll get to that. But

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Speaker 5: in terms of what Bobby Green could do with a

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Speaker 5: full training camp against Islami Kashev, I don't know. Certainly.

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Speaker 5: I think aligning with Darryl Christian for two months as

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Speaker 5: is going to produce a different result for Bobby Green. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that could alter things a little bit. I mean, what

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Speaker 5: have been? I mean, Islama Kasha put in the training

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Speaker 5: Bobby Green's going to get ice cream with his daughter

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Speaker 5: after a win had exhaled, right, Like, I don't want

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Speaker 7: Listen, like, no one's got the secret sauce against the

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Speaker 7: like two weeks, here you go, Bud.

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Speaker 5: You know, let's slap on thet there, get out there. Fine, fine,

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Speaker 5: what's the worst can happen? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I mean, even dude, even like two months, it's like

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Speaker 7: there's so much sensitivity and feel involved with grappling, and

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Speaker 7: when you're talking about takedown artist and control master like

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Speaker 7: a Mahashev, it's going to be really difficult to deal with.

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Speaker 7: So he needed way more time, no question about that,

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Speaker 7: but more than anything else, John, I think it was

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Speaker 7: a really tough matchup for Bobby Green, no matter what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and nearly everybody else in the top fifteen. Just

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Speaker 5: a really difficult matchup. Right. We've been saying for almost

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Speaker 5: a year now that Islam Makashev would be favored to

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Speaker 5: beat any lightweight in the world. Why are you smirking

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Speaker 5: at me, ken Fhlop, I'm smirking.

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Speaker 7: Because it's like Habib left and he replaced him with

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Speaker 7: like a clone of him, you know, right.

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Speaker 5: And someone argues a better version, right, Yeah, so you're

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Speaker 5: like cool, like star Pupil. Yeah, Mahashev. So what do

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Speaker 5: you think is the immediate future for Islam? And whom

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Speaker 5: do you think is next? And then I'll let it

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Speaker 5: rip on the same subject.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I think that he gets the winner of

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Speaker 7: Gagean and Olivera. I think that's the fight that makes

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Speaker 7: the most amount of sense. You look at his win streak,

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Speaker 7: what he's done. Perhaps he hasn't faced you know, the

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Speaker 7: elite elite guys yet, but can he beat the top

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Speaker 7: any one in the top five?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he can.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: I tell you, Charles Olavera and ISLAMI Kashev stylistically would

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Speaker 7: I think again, there's certain fights where I think you

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Speaker 7: Man you know, Wellington got off to a great start

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Speaker 5: I don't think was it?

430
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Speaker 8: Did It was?

431
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Speaker 5: Okay?

432
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Speaker 7: It was He kept moving his head like a maniac,

433
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,479
Speaker 7: and I was like missing my cross and I was like,

434
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 7: let me, what if I just throw like the horizontal elbow.

435
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 7: I gotta catch him at some point, and it just

436
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 7: nicked him and then he just became a buddy mess

437
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 7: and the same thing.

438
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Speaker 5: Happened kind of happened and choke him out. But no,

439
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 5: I mean, cam Flo is sort of seen as this consummate,

440
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 5: you know, nice guy and as a fighter anything. But

441
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 5: you know that's because they made him cut so much

442
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 5: water weight for all those exactly and shift contests. All right, Yeah,

443
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 5: So Sarukian, the Armenian, however you want to pronounce his name,

444
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 5: I think he's going to be somebody who needs to

445
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 5: be wreckon with at one hundred and fifty five pounds.

446
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 5: The fighting night was Priscilla Kashweeda and Gion Kim. So

447
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 5: I'm putting a kid to bed watching on my cellular

448
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 5: telephone on mute and I'm watching the first round, and

449
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on. If people at home

450
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 5: think this is like the greatest round they've ever seen,

451
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 5: but I tell you then, sitting in my son's bedroom,

452
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 5: that felt like the rate ast MMA round I had

453
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 5: ever seen. It wasn't that, but obviously, uh, this fight

454
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 5: had a lot to offer. And I know you saw

455
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 5: it last night, so what were your thoughts? It was crazy.

456
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 5: I mean, these these girls were throwing down man.

457
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Speaker 7: Uh they just uh, I mean, they didn't care about

458
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 7: their own faces, the faces of their opponents. They were

459
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 7: just trying to do damage, man, non stop from the

460
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Speaker 7: very beginning. And I was pretty blown away at how

461
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 7: tough these these ladies were and how many shots they

462
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Speaker 7: could take. I mean, Kashawera, by the way, was landing

463
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 7: some huge elbows and was able to bloody up Kim

464
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Speaker 7: as well. But you know, more than anything else, even

465
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Speaker 7: when she landed, just with that blunt force, I mean

466
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 7: it would knock her face back, she'd come right back

467
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 7: into the fold, and these these these ladies went at it.

468
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Speaker 5: It was absolutely insane to watch a fight like that

469
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Speaker 5: on mute. And then seemed like there was much being

470
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Speaker 5: made of the scorecards online because g On Kim seemed

471
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Speaker 5: to land a whole bunch more strung and Priscilla kashway

472
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Speaker 5: to look like she uh put her head in like

473
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Speaker 5: a beehive or something, but I don't know. I was

474
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 5: putting a kid to bed, so I don't have much

475
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 5: more on the scorecards. Ignacio Bob mondays with a big

476
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 5: win over a very game wrong jew who did misswait

477
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Speaker 5: Terrence McKinney makes quick work of for SZM, which was

478
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Speaker 5: also a highlight and a good night overall. I've been

479
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 5: focused on UFC two seventy two, so I didn't dive

480
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 5: too deep into that fight cat. But h that is

481
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Speaker 5: it for headlines today and we now you think Longo

482
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Speaker 5: answers the call today. Hopefully Cody will let us know

483
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Speaker 5: if if there's anything to miss on on the local

484
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Speaker 5: front with Ray Longo, so we make sure we're sensitive

485
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Speaker 5: to that. Let's get to the Ray Longo minute.

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Speaker 9: It is now time for the Ray Longo Minutes.

487
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Speaker 5: I wins a hole in this such that's what I want.

488
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Speaker 9: The Ray Longo minute story.

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Speaker 1: The John nik and Kenny Florian Podcast.

490
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys, what happened?

491
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Speaker 6: Now? You guys are joking. No, seriously, you're fucking joking

492
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 6: with me? Are you kidding? I get I get.

493
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 8: A thing for Skype today.

494
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 6: I'm like, I didn't even talk to anybody.

495
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna have to go back into this.

496
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 5: So oh, so you you felt like we dropped the

497
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Speaker 5: ball with the communication again, because.

498
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 6: No, no, I didn't feel like you dropped the ball.

499
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 6: You dropped the ball with the communication. You want to

500
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 6: check check your text messages.

501
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 5: I guess I will, No, and I I really apologize

502
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 5: if I dropped the John.

503
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 8: No need for an apology. We're ald friends, Cody.

504
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Speaker 5: Let's see Sunday, February twentieth. Yeah, I think I think

505
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 5: somehow No, wait, no, I think I texted you on

506
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 5: my own. Maybe not with Cody. Either way, this isn't

507
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 5: great content, but yeah, no, I guess you're right we did.

508
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 5: We had no Kenny. I mean, you call Cody this

509
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 5: afternoon because there had been no communication.

510
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Speaker 8: Right, Well, I.

511
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Speaker 6: Got a Skype notification, so I I'm at the gym,

512
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 6: and I'm like, let me just skype in May. I

513
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 6: thought you were doing the podcast till like three thirty.

514
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 5: Oh, it's always must have been somebody else.

515
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 6: You know, and then I sat in the waiting area

516
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 6: for about an hour and a half. Nobody picked up,

517
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 6: so I went back to teaching. That's all right, Just

518
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 6: guys got fights. It's all good.

519
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 5: No, I mean, I'll take this one on the chin.

520
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 5: I read some of the comments. People say, nobody pushes

521
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 5: my buttons quite like Ray long ago. And I'm not

522
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 5: doing this for a radio bit. I just we had

523
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 5: our signals crossed, obviously in terms of the time slot,

524
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 5: but primetime is better for you. It seems like your

525
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 5: night is kind of open. Are you Homer at the gym?

526
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 8: I just got home. Yeah, I had a race home.

527
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, but here I am ansaster. Did anybody Friday or

528
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 5: Saturday night?

529
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 6: I actually should have stayed at the gym and did it.

530
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Speaker 6: If I knew I could have gotten on at seven,

531
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't even have tried to get home.

532
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna owe you a phone.

533
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 6: But again, you know, when tickets because of us John,

534
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 6: when you have been but basically, when you're guessing, it's.

535
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 8: Hard to know what you're doing right.

536
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 5: Well, next time, just call me or text me. I

537
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 5: sincerely apologize.

538
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 8: I don't.

539
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, Wow, did anybody fight locally Friday or Saturday.

540
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 6: No. But I have a guy, Dylan Montello, That's who

541
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 6: I was with before I left. He's fighting on the

542
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Speaker 6: Kebeeb Show March eleventh, and I think Miami is.

543
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 5: It You're coming down to South Florida. Oh yeah, all right,

544
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 5: maybe we're in the time that we connect.

545
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Speaker 8: He just told me this will be the time. What

546
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 8: do we got. Let's hit me with something.

547
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 5: I must really be on. This guy's shipless, Cody Kenny,

548
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 5: Come on, you want to know what I have prepared

549
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 5: for you? Is that what you are? We'll keep it quick.

550
00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 8: No, No, we don't have to. Yes, yes, why so.

551
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 5: Talk to me about this guy, this performance and big

552
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 5: picture what you would do with him now as well?

553
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 6: I believe one hundred first off, two words for him,

554
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 6: major problems. He's really he's just a problem. And I

555
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 6: think at the very le you know, look, he's gonna

556
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 6: be He's the next champion for sure, when they give

557
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 6: him the opportunity, I believe. So anyway, he's just he

558
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 6: just looks good. That was a pretty dominant performance over

559
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 6: Bobby Green. We've never really seen anybody do that to him,

560
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 6: but I mean he did take it on short not

561
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 6: so it kind of sucks. He saved the day, but

562
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 6: you know, it is what it is. But the guy

563
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 6: it doesn't take away from isn't He was gonna fight

564
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 6: anybody put in front of him. He's got the right attitude,

565
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 6: he's got the right people behind him, and uh and

566
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 6: he's just been dominating so dominating some decent guys. So

567
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 6: it's I'm saying he's the next champion for sure. I

568
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 6: like his attitude. He's great control, just like Kabeb, you know,

569
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 6: it's very similar. He's got better striking, so it should

570
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 6: be interesting.

571
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Speaker 5: So you like him stylistically to beat both Charles Olivera

572
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 5: and Justin Geechie were he to get the winner of

573
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 5: that fight.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I mean I think, yeah, I believe so. Yeah,

575
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 6: I just think he's too strong on top.

576
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Speaker 5: Uh.

577
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 8: You know, Oliver Wi.

578
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 6: At least be able to throw up some submission attempts.

579
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 6: He could obviously catch him at any point in time.

580
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 6: But uh, I mean, Gaichie, I think it'll be a

581
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 6: replay of the uh the Kabib fight. So I've he

582
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 6: proved that he has no ground down there at all.

583
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 6: So I mean, if you can't get back to your

584
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 6: feet with this guy, it's it's just another nightmare, you know, right.

585
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 5: So you know, I've talked a lot about Morob Dwallis

586
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 5: Willie in glowing terms, comparing him in some way to

587
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 5: like Kamza Chimaiev and Islam Maikashev. It's sort of the

588
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 5: avoided strong grappler in the division. I'm just curious, if

589
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 5: Morob was the guy you were sending in there against

590
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 5: Pyotr Jan and Aljamaine Sterling, how you expect that fight

591
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: would play out, you know, because that's what I have

592
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 5: in my notes if you really want to know.

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Speaker 8: No, that's an interesting matchup.

594
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Speaker 6: I mean, I'll tell you where Morob's different from those guys,

595
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 6: and we don't know. I mean, he doesn't have the

596
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 6: control they have when he gets you down, but he'll

597
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 6: do that. I'm not sure if he's even letting you

598
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 6: up so he could take you down again. You know,

599
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 6: he just he can go and go and he's still

600
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Speaker 6: going to be just as strong in the third or

601
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Speaker 6: the fourth or the fifth round as he was in

602
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Speaker 6: the first. I'm not sure that's the case with these guys,

603
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 6: you know. I know when kuld be Fortal, I mean

604
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 6: I think he took a round off maybe, and then

605
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 6: he went back to the wrestling. But he's lucky he

606
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 6: didn't have somebody who could keep pushing him and pushing him.

607
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 6: And that's what Morob brings to the table. He's just

608
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 6: relentless and he's hard to hold down.

609
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 8: So but it's different. He doesn't have the control they.

610
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 5: Have, like right down, and he doesn't have the offensive

611
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 5: submission arsenal that Kamzat has and certainly you know, or

612
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 5: maybe he does, you know, Like I would like to

613
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 5: see guys like Morob. You see a lot of like

614
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 5: NFL quarterbacks hiring you know, quarterback coaches, right, like young

615
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 5: quarterbacks to really try to hone in their arm. And

616
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Speaker 5: I would like to see I'm not saying this just

617
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Speaker 5: because I'm the president of Team Florian, but I would

618
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Speaker 5: like to see guys who do maintain control and ken grappling,

619
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Speaker 5: get the fights to the ground. Hire guys like Kenny

620
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Speaker 5: Florian to really hone in on a couple chokes. I mean,

621
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Speaker 5: you don't think Daniel Cormier was always plucking Ken Flow's brain. No,

622
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 5: he was like, what you know, trying to hone in

623
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Speaker 5: on a couple chokes and really some of the nuances,

624
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 5: so that for a guy like Morob, when he does

625
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 5: get you down, it's fucking game over.

626
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Speaker 8: You know, I do. Look at listen.

627
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 6: I love Kenny, but you know Sarah did beat John

628
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 6: Jack Machado in Dubai a bunch of he's got enough

629
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 6: chokes he's got and he's got Jason Row who's a

630
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 6: fucking animal on the circuit now too.

631
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Speaker 8: He's right with all of those guys.

632
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Speaker 6: He was trained in the city when they were here,

633
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 6: so he's surrounded by really really solid jiu jitsu guys.

634
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 8: He just likes to fight the way he likes to fight.

635
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 5: He's you know, I'll say this too. I'll say you know.

636
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Speaker 7: The interesting thing for for Morob is he has been tested.

637
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 7: We know what happens if he does get hit or

638
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 7: does he have a chin? Can he come back with

639
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 7: how and maybe it's a good thing or a bad thing.

640
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 7: But with Hamzat and Islam like of course, Islam lost

641
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 7: his I think his UFC debut. But we haven't seen

642
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 7: those guys when their backs are against the one. We

643
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 7: haven't seen them hurt in half the battle back. Yes, yes,

644
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 7: and it's easy when you're the hammer, but you don't

645
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 7: quite know when they're in their nail. We have seen

646
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 7: that from Rob. I think that's another difference maybe between

647
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 7: those guys too.

648
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 8: Yeah.

649
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and again even with uh Mala Moray's I mean

650
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 6: he was literally look, he was out gunned on his feet.

651
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 6: Marlins a stand up guy, right, you know, Morob's really

652
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 6: still a work in progress.

653
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 8: He really is, you know, so, uh he's no.

654
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 5: They have a lot of those chokes in his arsenal.

655
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 6: Can submit, There's no question about it, right, he was.

656
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 8: He was a somble guy too. He's got it.

657
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 6: He's just I think he enjoys doing.

658
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 8: What he's still.

659
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: I think that's fair. I'm certainly not denigrating his jiu

660
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 5: jitsu coaches, but I do think that the more people

661
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 5: go to specialists for certain things in MMA, I do

662
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 5: think that's ultimately where we're going, all right, anything else

663
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 5: on the UFC fight now, I mean, it seemed like

664
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 5: there was a vocal part of the population that was

665
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 5: trying to like denigrate this Islam win. So I'm glad

666
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 5: that you put it in its proper perspective. But unless

667
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 5: you have anything else on a UFC fight night, I'm

668
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 5: gonna move on to the pay per view.

669
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 6: Look, at the end of the day, they could denigrate

670
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 6: whatever they want at the end of the day, and

671
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 6: I believed this. He was going to fight whoever the

672
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 6: hell they put in front of them. I don't think

673
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 6: that guy's picking who he's fighting at this point. He

674
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 6: would afford anybody. And that's what you want from a fighting,

675
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, That's how you're gonna find out.

676
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 6: But man, I don't know that was I like Bobby Man,

677
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 6: I was really pulling for him too, only because I

678
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 6: think he's, like what you said last week, he deserves

679
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 6: the main event, not on two weeks notice, not right

680
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 6: after you you know, you're four, because like again, I

681
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 6: see guys that throw a lot of punches. Man, their

682
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 6: hands are not good. Two weeks later, it's just not so,

683
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 6: you know. But he did save the day and hopefully

684
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 6: that means something to somebody. But you can't take a

685
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 6: thing away from that other guy. He's been pretty much

686
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 6: flawless the list. A couple of fights we've seen him

687
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 6: and you know, and yeah, I look, I think Jamayah's

688
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 6: probably the next champ or whatever weight the vision he

689
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 6: goes into these guys that look, I think they're dedicated,

690
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 6: they're out working everybody, and uh, you know, I love

691
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 6: That's why I like, even like Morub, you're not keeping

692
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 6: that guy out of the gym, you know what I mean.

693
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 6: You're just he's gonna you know, psychologically, you know, you

694
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 6: gotta fight, but you got to defend twelve takedowns in

695
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 6: a fight, and he's not gonna get weaker, you know

696
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 6: what I mean. Yeah, I mean, I know I'm saying

697
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 6: like it's just I'm crazy, but that's who he is,

698
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 6: you know.

699
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean hopefully he gets healthy soon because I

700
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 5: just I'm more fascinated to see the matchmaking for him

701
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 5: than anybody else in that division. You know, when I

702
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 5: look at all the big names that are surrounding him,

703
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 5: someone's got to fight Morob, you know, and it's a

704
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 5: very interesting, uh sigular challenge in that division. All right.

705
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he'll be back in June. He's back

706
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 6: in the gym now because we got him for al

707
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 6: Jo and then Adrian Gianna has just got in today,

708
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 6: so h we're going to get a great week or

709
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 6: two of training him.

710
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 8: But I you know, like when I talk tomorrow, I go,

711
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 8: how's your show?

712
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 6: I just don't even know if I believe him, you know,

713
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 6: because he's his pain tolerance is totally. I get guys,

714
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 6: my legs a little sore. You know, this guy's got

715
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 6: his bone broke, and he's like, no, no, I think

716
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 6: I'm good.

717
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 8: I'm good, I'm good to go. I just don't want

718
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 8: to kill him myself at this point.

719
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 6: That's the that's the problem, because those injuries start to

720
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 6: mount up and then no matter who you are, you

721
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 6: start altering your game a little bit.

722
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 8: And that's that always drives me crazy. And I see it.

723
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 8: I you know, my.

724
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 6: Guys are fought injured forever, and you know the log

725
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 6: you're in this game. Yeah, the you're gonna have to deal.

726
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 6: It's just it is part of the game. And I'm

727
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 6: sure everybody's dealing with it. So it's not you know,

728
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 6: specific to that, but it's it's hard to get out

729
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 6: of here onun scathing, you know.

730
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, before we move on, Morob right now, eighth all

731
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 5: time in UFC history for Takedown's landed with sixty three

732
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 5: GSP number one with ninety is that right? Sixty three

733
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 5: is eighth all time? Very impressive. I'm Curre's where Curtis

734
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 5: Razor Blades is on that list. All right, you f

735
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 5: C two seventy two in a few days, Kolby Covington

736
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 5: and Jorge Mosfeedal, Yeah, man, I mean, need I say more? Right,

737
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 5: there's a lot of heat on it. You know, I've

738
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 5: been asked sort of about previous grudge matches, Kenny. I'd

739
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 5: like to get your thoughts on this, but I can't

740
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 5: quite remember. I mean, a fight that had this much heat.

741
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 5: Certainly Jones and Cormier was pretty volatile, but this feels legitimate.

742
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 5: This feels like, uh no, this is either great promotion

743
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 5: or or I don't I don't think they're gonna bury

744
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: the head.

745
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 6: I believe this is different because you know, I had

746
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 6: you know, Sarah and Hughes. That was a good rivalry

747
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 6: back in the day. But you know, the difference is

748
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 6: like even DC and Jones, it's all fabricated, right that

749
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 6: this is for real like these guys. You know, DC

750
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 6: was never living with John Jones, nor would I think

751
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 6: he ever would want to. But you know, and the

752
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 6: same thing with Matt. It became more like fabricated, you

753
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 6: know what I mean. They had to make it up

754
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 6: almost you know what I mean? He said, this to

755
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 6: that guy and I you know, and it becomes a

756
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 6: big deal and then you know it's funny. But but

757
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 6: these guys, I think, really have something where there's a

758
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 6: there's a real hatred there. I mean, they were living together,

759
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 6: you see them together, and then they're not together.

760
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 8: So that's a big I think that's a big difference, Kenny.

761
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 5: I mean, I know there have been times in your

762
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 5: career We've talked about it obviously where there was more

763
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 5: than just uh you know, man, I'm man right, there

764
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 5: was an emotional backdrop to whatever degree. What are your

765
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 5: thoughts on all that noise?

766
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 7: Ah, It's tricky and it's a major factor in my opinion,

767
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 7: because if I want to do my job the best

768
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 7: of my ability, this is for me personally. Sometimes it

769
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 7: fuels you, it can help you. But if I want

770
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 7: to do my job the best of my ability, I'm

771
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 7: trying to get the emotions out of it. If I can't, right,

772
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 7: it helps me focus, It helps me perform better in

773
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 7: some cases. You know, depending on who you are, it

774
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 7: could fuel you. Bet it could fuel you more. You know,

775
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 7: if you're getting to a point where things are getting

776
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 7: tough in the fight, you're like I'm not losing to

777
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 7: this fucking guy.

778
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 5: You know, it can help you, but as far as

779
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 5: sticking to.

780
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 7: Game plans and stuff like that, that's where it can

781
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 7: really affect you in a negative way. Where if you're like, hey,

782
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 7: I'm I know, I'm supposed to take this guy down,

783
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 7: but he just hit me with a shot, and I

784
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 7: want to hit him as hard as possible, and I

785
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 7: want to beat him at his own game. That's when

786
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 7: it can kind of throw you off. So I'm curious

787
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 7: to see how that affects both guys, right, because both

788
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 7: guys are fiery. But Kobe's been here many times before.

789
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 7: He has ticked people off. He knows how to get

790
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 7: underneath your skin. But with Jorge, I don't know. I

791
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 7: guess he had it with Ben Askron a little bit,

792
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 7: you know. But this is, like Bray say, this is

793
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 7: different because it runs deep. These are former friends that

794
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 7: genuinely do not like each other. This one has gotten

795
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 7: spicy over a couple of years now.

796
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, And the difference is what Kenny's saying too, is

797
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 6: you know, I just got hit.

798
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 8: I should be wrestling, but I want to hit him back.

799
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 6: That's the two people that never met each other before

800
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 6: these guys have fought in the gym. That's a big difference.

801
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 6: One of those guys knows exactly kind of what's gonna happen.

802
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 6: There's no question in my mind, you know what I mean,

803
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 6: they unless somebody made adjustments. And I think the other

804
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 6: difference is even when when mas Vedol fought Ben Askron,

805
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 6: he hadn't hit Peter yet, you know, he was still

806
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 6: had that hunger. And I think Kobe's got to be

807
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 6: the hungry guy at a both of him because Jo

808
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 6: Hayes tasted some money now looks like he's having a

809
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 6: great time. You never know, you know, if that's going

810
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 6: to play into it. But I think this is a

811
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 6: serious thing and I'm excited as shit for this fight.

812
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, no, I don't really have anything to add.

813
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 5: I find it to be absolutely fascinating, particularly from the

814
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 5: mosfeedal side, right, because if I put it in terms

815
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: for someone like me, right, it's like, all right, I

816
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 5: got to play one on one game of basketball with

817
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 5: a dude who hooked up with my girlfriend, Right, So

818
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 5: it's like the upside of beating that guy is off

819
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 5: the charts, right, But the downside of losing that guy

820
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 5: is obviously pretty profound, right, And I think for me

821
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 5: as an athlete, I wasn't the mentally toughest athlete out there.

822
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 5: I think I'd rather fight just the dude that uh

823
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 5: or played one on one with, the dude that I'm

824
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 5: cool with, as opposed to the dude that just took

825
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 5: my girl, you know, because of that downside, you know.

826
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 5: But mosfeed, all I feel like is the type of

827
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 5: guy like I try to think about what I'm I'm

828
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 5: gonna ask him Ray in my fighter meeting, and I

829
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 5: keep coming back to this thought, Like, George, it seems

830
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 5: to me like maybe you guys should just fight, like

831
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 5: on Thursday, after the press are in the streets. That

832
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 5: seems to be the way you'd rather go about this,

833
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 5: right Like.

834
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 6: And he'd have no problem with you, he would do it, yeah, right.

835
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 5: Well, it's right. It's like it's a you know, obviously

836
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 5: you're gonna fight for money. But I think the fight

837
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 5: he really wants is is you know, the misdemeanor assault charge,

838
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 5: you know, right, So, I don't know. I think it's

839
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 5: very fascinating. I think the betting line is fascinating.

840
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 6: You know, what is the betting line? What's the line on.

841
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 7: It, Alby's a big favorite minus three thirty five Coreat

842
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 7: I got a question because I don't really know the answer.

843
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 5: Who do you think has more to lose in this fight?

844
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 8: Uh?

845
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 6: I think Kolby does, believe it or not, because he's

846
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 6: more of his shit talk and lost his list couple.

847
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 6: So I don't think, you know, as far as that.

848
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 6: I mean he's talking about like street credibility or something

849
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 6: like that, or uh. I think the guy, you know,

850
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 6: I always think it's the guy that's talking the most

851
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 6: has the most to lose. I just like as a

852
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 6: basic premise, you know what I mean?

853
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 7: And uh, yeah, Well I wonder I wonder where each

854
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 7: of them go after them.

855
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 5: I guess I'm coming from that standpoint of where do

856
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 5: they go if they lose? You know what I mean?

857
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 5: Like where does Jorge go if he loses? And where

858
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 5: does Kobe go if he loses?

859
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 6: Well, I gotta tell you, I don't think I see

860
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 6: I Like again, I'm not sure this, but I don't

861
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 6: think Core has.

862
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 8: To go anywhere. I think he did pretty good for himself,

863
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 8: you know what I mean?

864
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, I think he goes wherever he wants to go.

865
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 6: I think he's calld out. His identity is what you

866
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 6: should do, right, you know, as you're building. He built

867
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 6: his brand around the identity that he's brought, which I

868
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 6: think carries.

869
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 8: Him win or lose. The other guy hasn't really you know,

870
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 8: he hasn't really won like.

871
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 6: This type of fight before. So I think he's he's

872
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 6: the guy. If he loses, then he lost to a

873
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 6: journeyman who just lost twice in a row or whatever,

874
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 6: you know, whatever the thing is, I think. And for

875
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 6: a guy that's talking shit like that, I think he's

876
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 6: the guy that's got the pressure on him. I don't

877
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 6: think johe has any pressure. I think he's a street

878
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 6: guy and I don't think he has any pressure on

879
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 6: him at all. I think he's gonna go in and

880
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 6: handle this just like he handles any other fight.

881
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 8: You know.

882
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 5: Well, the point of sort of separation seems to be

883
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 5: this alleged non payment from Colby Covington twelve five hundred

884
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 5: dollars and I think to a coach, right, and then

885
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 5: Mosfiedal has said that he went and paid that coach

886
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 5: and with all of them, excuse me, with all of

887
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 5: these specifics, right, and I know both guys, right, I

888
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 5: respect with guys. You know, I came to Covington's defense

889
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 5: publicly against my dear friend and broadcast partner Michael bisbeing

890
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 5: But you know, I take Mosfiedal at his word and

891
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 5: a lot of respects when he sets this up, right,

892
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 5: it just seems very specific, and it seems like that

893
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 5: sort of was the hinge of the relationship. Ray Like,

894
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 5: I sat on a plane behind these guys right going

895
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 5: from Miami to Dallas, and they weren't like holding hands,

896
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 5: but I mean one of them was in the middle seat,

897
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 5: one of them was on the aisle. They were inseparable.

898
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 5: There are a lot of parallels between them. I think

899
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 5: they bonded on a lot of things. I don't know.

900
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 5: I'm fascinated to see sort of how they all handle

901
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 5: everything that comes with this matchup.

902
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 6: I gotta tell you, I'm fascinated by that story, to

903
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 6: be honestly, can we is that an accurate story? Because

904
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 6: I know if I didn't get paid by somebody in

905
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 6: the gym, nobody was coming to pay me.

906
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 5: Well, right, so, and that does I.

907
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 6: I like him just for I'm pulling for them big time.

908
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 5: Now, Well, that seems like again, now, if you're trying

909
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 5: to sell pay per views, Ken Flaw, that's one thing, right,

910
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 5: but this doesn't seem like a fabrication necessarily by mosfeed.

911
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 6: All right, well, what a what a good good will?

912
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 6: What a sign of good will?

913
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 8: That is? Man?

914
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 5: Well, I think when you when you align a fighter

915
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 5: and you give a recommendation to a coach and that

916
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 5: you know you feel a certain response, I got y right,

917
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 5: Like well, no, I mean like yeah, I mean.

918
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 8: I have that makes more sense to me.

919
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 6: Right if he vouched for him, then you know, listen,

920
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 6: there's certain groups of people that would make him pay

921
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 6: the money.

922
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 8: That's if you if you put up.

923
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 6: Your word about somebody and you're kind of responsible for him.

924
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 5: I mean, both of these guys have been in emotional fights.

925
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 5: For Covington, they're all emotional, right, I mean walking out

926
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 5: in Sal Paula to fight Damian Maya didn't figure to

927
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 5: be easy, you know. Uh. I guess I just wonder

928
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 5: as an athlete, as a professional athlete, when you want

929
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 5: something so bad, I mean the bragging rights for life

930
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 5: and candidly. By the time Kobe Covington and Town Woodley

931
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 5: fought in twenty twenty, a lot of the steam and

932
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 5: the heat had sort of dissipated a little bit. You know,

933
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 5: Woodley was at whatever stage of his career he was,

934
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 5: So I don't even know. I don't even know how

935
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 5: am I supposed to write this pay per view open?

936
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 5: I mean in memory, I don't even know.

937
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 8: You know why I would ask, I would.

938
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 6: I would call Dan Lambert and ask him who he

939
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 6: thinks is gonna win. I bet he's got a really

940
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 6: good idea.

941
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, who do you think is gonna win? Since

942
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 5: we don't have Dan today, And again, my apologies for

943
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 5: the scheduling, I'm gonna take it all. This is no

944
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 5: knock on my beloved Cody Marrow, but I'm gonna start

945
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 5: calling you on showday. I'm gonna give you four different

946
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 5: timeslots so you can choose from We're gonna get it

947
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 5: right now. I feel like we wronged you today.

948
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 8: I like it like a multiple choice test. That's nice.

949
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna go back to the old school.

950
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 8: It's good. I think.

951
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 6: I think the wrestling and the pressure of Covington will

952
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 6: I think he can keep going to So I'm gonna

953
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 6: go with Covington, even though I I don't think I've

954
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 6: ever bet against mars Vadol before because I like him,

955
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 6: But uh, I think Kobe's probably gonna get the job done.

956
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 5: It is interesting. I mean, certainly most of the people

957
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 5: that I've spoken to seem to lean that way. Uh,

958
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 5: we shall see how it all plays out. On a

959
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 5: couple other things before we let you go add some

960
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 5: Barbosa and Bryce Mitchell, a featured doubt in the featherweight division.

961
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 5: Ken Flow has to hold back his thoughts on this fight,

962
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 5: but it's in Barboza. Despite the wealth of UFC experience,

963
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 5: is the underdog here against Doug nasty Bryce Mitchell, which

964
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 5: I thought was kind of interesting.

965
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 6: Well, why is Ken he have to hold back? You've

966
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 6: been training with Bryce No fifteen minutes, I see he's saying, Man,

967
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 6: I look, I love Bryce Mitchell. He's been in the gym,

968
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 6: he's super town. This is a really big test for him. Man,

969
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 6: I'm not Borbosa.

970
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 8: I don't know. I can't believe borbos is the underdog

971
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 8: in that fight, But.

972
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw the comin event Halfel

973
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 5: Dosanjos is a pretty big underdog against Rafael Fhaziv like

974
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 5: plus two ten for RDA or so.

975
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 8: It looks like we got a couple of live dogs.

976
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 8: That's nice.

977
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 5: So where will you be for the pay per view

978
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 5: on Saturday night? Where will you be watching? You working?

979
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 8: No, I'll be up. I'm sure I'll be home.

980
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 5: Suns or any of that noise. Does you have the

981
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 5: unfiltered guys calling these days? Or no?

982
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 6: Wow?

983
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 5: What we get? Jealous? Ray?

984
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 6: Okay, Brow, I refuse to talk on yeminate me please?

985
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 5: No, I mean you know how seriously I take this program.

986
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 5: So the thought of you rearranging your schedule and frustratedly

987
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 5: driving home from the gym to your house to accommodate

988
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 5: the show doesn't sit well with me, and it's gonna

989
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 5: sit even worse with my wife, who will ask me

990
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 5: in about forty minutes, oh how the show go, And

991
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 5: I'll say, oh, we fuck fucked up? Loves Ray, What

992
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 5: would you do without your wife?

993
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 8: Seriously, I don't know exactly.

994
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 5: I wouldn't get second time. I'll tell you that.

995
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know we hear you on that, buddy.

996
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I mean my whole household would be completely screwed. Obviously,

997
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 5: you know she goes away. It looks like a tsunami

998
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 5: rolled through here, but the kids.

999
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 8: Are all alive, all right, very good, very good.

1000
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 5: That's about. That's about all I have. When are you

1001
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 5: next on the road for.

1002
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 6: The eleventh I'll be in Miami, all right. I know

1003
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 6: you already forgot that. We just mentioned it two minutes ago.

1004
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 6: That goes to show you how we're not hooking up

1005
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 6: this time.

1006
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 8: You forgot about it.

1007
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 6: I just told him. So that's that's.

1008
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 5: Not happening March eleventh. I'm going to be there. I'm

1009
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 5: going to be there. So one is that the one

1010
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 5: the Jacksonville won.

1011
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 8: The Jacksonville.

1012
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe one day we'll get the whole band together. Ray,

1013
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 5: we love you again, except my apologies tire Longo family, for.

1014
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,959
Speaker 6: No apologies they got they actually have the dual gigged.

1015
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 8: And bound in the because I had to run in.

1016
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 5: I like to see you rock in the long Goo

1017
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 5: wyman m M a gear every now and again too.

1018
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 8: You know, yeah you can't. You know those colors run deep.

1019
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, team Sarah Longo and go Widman m

1020
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 5: M all.

1021
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 8: Over the place. We love everybody.

1022
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 5: Yeah all right, buddy, have a have a great day

1023
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 5: and a better evening all those y thank.

1024
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 8: You, all right, guys taking these next week?

1025
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,479
Speaker 5: There he is every week here on the Nica Florid

1026
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 5: podcast Code. He's just like, all right, we got to

1027
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 5: move on here. I guess that was on me today.

1028
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 5: I don't know the thing. He he ain't on email,

1029
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 5: right and again all the mini men after me, all

1030
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 5: banging on him on the way out, but he's not

1031
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 5: on email.

1032
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 7: And I got a luck going on and I, uh, yeah,

1033
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 7: I guess I screwed that up long ago. One A

1034
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 7: next zero, Yeah, all right, uh it is now time

1035
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 7: for the pronunciation of the week, and we're gonna get

1036
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 7: Cody on a three shot.

1037
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: The come back.

1038
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 4: Notice I didn't come on when Ray was still here.

1039
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 5: Much to you, buddy, No, no, no, it's not it's not.

1040
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 5: There's there's no conversation to be had. I you think, though, uh,

1041
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 5: you know, he's born in the nineteen fucking sixties or

1042
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 5: what the fifties, whatever the fuck it is, right, Ken

1043
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 5: Flow born in nineteen seventy six, as we got to

1044
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 5: earlier on the program. But it's like, no, I think

1045
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 5: we got to lay it out, Cody. I think I

1046
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 5: got to text the guy like, hey man six fifteen,

1047
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 5: six thirty six, forty five, seven, seven, fifteenth Sunday, any

1048
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 5: of these times work, you know, and uh, and then

1049
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 5: expect him to be eight or ten minutes party, right, wow, Phil,

1050
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 5: all right, so we have two files to play. The

1051
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 5: first file is the guy who's fighting Colby coming to Okay,

1052
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 5: I'm not going to ask you to pronounce this name

1053
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 5: because we only want to hear him in all his glory,

1054
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 5: but Ken Flow as a guy who, at one point

1055
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 5: in time yourself spoke as many as six languages. At

1056
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 5: least that's what the Internet says about you. By the way,

1057
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 5: say my man Keflo speaks fucking more, I know, like

1058
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 5: folks h and that well.

1059
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 4: God, that's why he's a BattleBots commentator.

1060
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 8: Right.

1061
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 5: So the last time prior to Usman Mosfidal two that

1062
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 5: Jorge Mosfidal had been finished was that Inverted Triangle Toby

1063
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 5: Imada two thousand and nine, right, And I happened to

1064
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 5: be on the call way back when when I had

1065
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 5: no idea what I was doing. But I've always felt

1066
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 5: a certain kinship to Jorge Mosfidal, and I just wanted

1067
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 5: to hear the legends say his name on the airwaves.

1068
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 5: If we could just play that file, Cody, that would

1069
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 5: be that'd be great. Hold, Hey, Maveat hold, hey, Mavead right,

1070
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Speaker 5: I mean, now you know why we played the file.

1071
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 5: Kemp Flo, I mean what a beautiful man? Right, Jorge

1072
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 5: game Bred Mafi Doll dropped that s this weekend. Hopefully

1073
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 5: the bosses don't get upset. But our pronunciation of the week,

1074
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 5: I believe is a fighter who might have even lost

1075
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,479
Speaker 5: her opponent, Cody. I really want to hear you say

1076
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 5: this name. She competes on the preliminary portion in the

1077
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 5: flyweight division, Big Big twenty twenty one for this lady.

1078
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 5: We'll see what she can do here in twenty twenty

1079
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 5: two if they find a replacement opponent. Jessica. I who

1080
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 5: am I talking about? Bud Well?

1081
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 4: She did post on her Instagram that she will not

1082
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 4: be fighting in that instagram or manon f.

1083
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 5: My non fuor oh is not how she pronounces her name.

1084
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 5: Let's hear her.

1085
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 4: See how she pronounced My name is manon the bist.

1086
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 7: My name is manon the Beast.

1087
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 4: I had the front at least I was emphasis on

1088
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 4: that one. I do have a question for you guys though,

1089
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 4: before I get on here, before I quick shop, so

1090
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 4: you remember where the UFC used to have their names

1091
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 4: for the pay per views can you ever on a

1092
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 4: named pay per view like UFC Bad Blood or something

1093
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 4: like that?

1094
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, right right, we have a wrong one. Yeah,

1095
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 5: it was it was it gotta be. Yeah, I don't know.

1096
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 5: I mean, what was you have eighty seven fucking Seek

1097
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 5: and destroy fucking when you meet Roger Werte look it

1098
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 5: up right now. I think it was.

1099
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 4: Italica before the main event came on or something.

1100
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 5: I mean, is this filler? Is that what they call

1101
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 5: this funny?

1102
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 4: I have some suggestions as to what this one will be.

1103
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 4: I want to hear which one?

1104
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, UFC eighty seven Seek and Destroyer and Destroy

1105
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 5: eight line, Minneapolis Minister.

1106
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if I could beat that with my

1107
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 4: suggestions for UFC two seventy two, but I'm gonna try.

1108
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 8: Go ahead.

1109
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 4: UFC two seventy two Bad Blood, no full real, Nemesis, Nemesis.

1110
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 4: I just think one name one No Past Pals.

1111
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 5: I want to Bruce Past Pals by two twipes. Yeah

1112
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 5: that's good, thank you buddy. Uh yeah, UFC eighty seven

1113
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 5: Seek and Destroy. I was covering Vix Martial Arts for

1114
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 5: ESPN at the time, and I got to go to

1115
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 5: the event because Kenny Florian was fighting and that was uh,

1116
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 5: and you know, Roger Werta had all this moment right

1117
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 5: everybody talking about where to. You know, back then there

1118
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 5: was less media coverage. But if Ken Flow had a scrum,

1119
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 5: he'd probably be like, y'all want to put some respect

1120
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 5: on my name with this Roger Rita, because like I

1121
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 5: probably dated prettier women. I might even be better looking.

1122
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 5: He's getting all this steam. It's a fucking joke. We'll

1123
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 5: update the standings before we get to Jimmy Crouse for

1124
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 5: the first time in a long time. Brian Petree's on fire.

1125
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 5: You know, Crousey Kid's gonna come back to a few

1126
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 5: minutes and he's gonna be like, wow, all of a sudden,

1127
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 5: you know, Brian Petrie creeping up on the black. But

1128
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Speaker 5: plus two point one units for our man from the

1129
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 5: MMA takes podcast Brian Petrie on the week, so he

1130
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 5: gets to minus point eight for Team Annik. I guess

1131
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 5: we'll call it for now. Ken Flow also a pretty

1132
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 5: good week minus point two. The Misha Serkoonov fight hurts

1133
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 5: you out, yeah, obviously because he had welling determine. So

1134
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 5: minus four point four there so a slight lead for

1135
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 5: Team Annick. As we come up on UFC two seventy

1136
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 5: two Covington versus Mafi. Well, I don't sound nearly as

1137
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 5: good as he does. Let's get to the main event challenge.

1138
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: It's the main event challenge.

1139
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 5: The time is most definitely face.

1140
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: How do you everything possible to win?

1141
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: It's the main event Challenge with John Hannick and Kenny

1142
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: Florian podcast.

1143
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 5: All right, So I'm walking out of the UFC Apex

1144
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 5: after UFC Fight Night Walker versus Hill earlier this month,

1145
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 5: and a fan turns to me and is like, Annik, like,

1146
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 5: can you get James Krause back on the podcast? Already?

1147
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 5: Is not at all, not at all, absolutely happen, you know,

1148
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 5: So this listener hopefully they're on social media and they

1149
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 5: will bounce me up. But look, just for you, it's

1150
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 5: a pay per view week. James Krause is in the building.

1151
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 5: It's good to have you. You know, if I was

1152
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 5: interviewing James Krause the Fighter right now, I would lead

1153
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 5: with this question. So I'm going to ask you. Your

1154
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 5: schedule seems as breakneck as anyone's. You know, Kenny has

1155
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 5: talked about trying to clone himself with all the different

1156
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 5: irons that he has in the fire. But for you,

1157
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 5: it's just insane sort of running this gym, your own

1158
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 5: fight promotion, random commentary things that you're doing, all of

1159
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 5: the coaching. You know, I'm thankful as your friend that

1160
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 5: you're going to Vegas on Thursday and not Tuesday. How

1161
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 5: are you holding up? You also have children, Like, how

1162
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 5: are you holding up amidst the grind that is your

1163
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 5: life right now?

1164
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 10: I mean, it's just I think you get desensitized to

1165
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 10: it after a while, you know, Like like I think

1166
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 10: Kenny can attest to this whenever you're fighting your train

1167
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 10: twice a day.

1168
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 3: And people like, how do you do that?

1169
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 5: I don't know, Just just do it.

1170
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 10: I don't know.

1171
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 3: It's just what needs to be done.

1172
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 10: So that's kind of where I'm at with it is

1173
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 10: It's just what needs to be done, and you know

1174
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 10: that's what I do.

1175
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 5: So yeah, No, I mean I go back and forth,

1176
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 5: like do I like all this noise in my life?

1177
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 5: Would I like less noise? I don't really know. I

1178
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 5: think noise overall is a good thing. All right. We

1179
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 5: got a lot of picks to make today real quick.

1180
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 5: You got Tim Elliott fighting Todd gear ulan Bekov coming

1181
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 5: up This weekend. Any quick thoughts on that matchup for

1182
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 5: Tim before we gets the picks.

1183
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, you know, I could just I could break

1184
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 10: the fight down unobjectively if you'd like me to.

1185
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 6: Uh.

1186
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 10: Tim's obviously my my guy, He's one of my best

1187
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 10: friends in the world.

1188
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: He is a great human being.

1189
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 5: Uh.

1190
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 10: But like as you look at this fight unobjectively, obviously

1191
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 10: two gears, a young young stud coming from that that

1192
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 10: uh Dakistan camp that uh that.

1193
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 3: Are really good at those upper body.

1194
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 10: Wrestling and despite reminds me a lot of when Tim

1195
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 10: fought Ascar.

1196
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: I didn't coach him for this fight.

1197
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 10: Uh, but everybody told him not to lock up with

1198
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 10: Ascar because he would get he would get taken down.

1199
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Speaker 10: And if you guys remember Tim through him, like not

1200
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 10: taking him down, like through him four or five times.

1201
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 10: And I've seen Tim throw some really really high level wrestlers.

1202
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 10: He's really tough upper body man like.

1203
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 3: He's he's he's a really good wrestler upper.

1204
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 10: Body and he's a little funky, you know what I mean. So, uh,

1205
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 10: that's sometimes that's what it takes.

1206
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 5: You know.

1207
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: He he does all the wrong things and he does

1208
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 3: him right.

1209
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 10: And uh, I think I do feel like We've seen

1210
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 10: a resurgence of his skill, even though we lost the

1211
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 10: nikola I Fire, which I thought he won. I do

1212
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 10: feel like I'm seeing a progression with him of skill

1213
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 10: at his age and his level in USC.

1214
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 3: I do feel like he's still getting.

1215
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 5: Better, and I believe there's nobody better to center that

1216
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 5: athlete between rounds than you. I like seeing the dynamic

1217
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 5: between you guys, all right. So it's easy for me

1218
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 5: to lay out these fights because I don't have to

1219
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 5: pick them right But I left a couple on the

1220
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 5: cutting room floor. We still have seven selections for you today,

1221
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 5: so we'll try to rip through some of these prelims

1222
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 5: fairly quickly. But the first fight for us, big fight

1223
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 5: at lightweight, essentially a pick them right now. Jalen Turner

1224
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 5: minus one twenty five. Jamie Malarkey is plus one oh five.

1225
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 5: Two really solid lightweights in my humble opinion, Malarkey out

1226
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 5: of Central Coast Australia two and Zher with a couple

1227
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 5: knockouts in twenty twenty one. Turner's won three in a row.

1228
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 5: It makes me feel bad every time I step on

1229
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 5: the scale. I don't weigh myself, but like Jalen, Turner

1230
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 5: weigh in one fifty six. I'm like fucking a man,

1231
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 5: all right, Jalen, we get it, Like you can weigh

1232
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty six pounds. What do you have

1233
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 5: for us? James On, Jalen Turner and Jamie Malarkey.

1234
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is a great fight. Uh. I'm

1235
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 3: a big fan of both of these kids.

1236
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 10: And uh, I will say this, man, I really like Uh.

1237
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 10: I like Jaya Turner because he's a long He's a

1238
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 10: long lightweight that should probably be a welter weight, so

1239
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 10: I can relate, I can write to him.

1240
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

1241
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 10: But man, I really like Jamie Malarkey a lot, and

1242
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 10: I feel like he's the underdog in every fight. And dude,

1243
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 10: the dude is so durable. He's got no quid in

1244
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 10: him heart for days. He's a big puncher, good volume.

1245
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 10: And I don't know if you guys remember this or not,

1246
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 10: but the fight that he put up against Brad Riddell

1247
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 10: and his is both their debuts, that was just remarkable

1248
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 10: in Australia.

1249
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 3: Amazing, amazing performance for both those guys.

1250
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 7: Uh.

1251
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,479
Speaker 10: And then obviously stopping Deavonte Smith is no easy task either.

1252
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 10: So I like Jamie Malarkey in this. I do think

1253
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 10: it's gonna be a banger, though. I think Jamie's gonna

1254
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 10: get on the inside and and uh, he just really

1255
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 10: did John mixing everything up. He works the body, he

1256
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 10: works the takedown. He's got great striking. It's super tough

1257
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 10: to get. I mean, he's a guy that's gonna be

1258
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 10: right here. He's gonna force you to fight him. And

1259
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 10: that's what I like to watching.

1260
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 3: Guys like that.

1261
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,919
Speaker 5: No, you say him up perfectly. Honestly, I'm a big

1262
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 5: fan of Jamie Malarkey and of course the Tarantula Jalen Turner, Kenny.

1263
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 5: I think winner here has a chance to crack the

1264
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 5: top fifteen at some point in twenty twenty two. You

1265
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 5: going Turner or Jamie Mlackey. That's a fun name for

1266
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 5: US Bostonians to say, fucking Jamie Malachey, Ken Flaw, who

1267
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 5: do you have? Dang it?

1268
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,479
Speaker 7: Kraus, Yeah, listen, I like Malarkey. He is here as well.

1269
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 5: You know.

1270
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 7: I think if it goes to the ground, I things

1271
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 7: are gonna get interesting. And I like Turner, you know,

1272
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 7: I think he's more of a threat there for sure.

1273
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 7: If the fight's gonna get a finish on the ground.

1274
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 7: I gotta lean towards Turner, But Malarkey, I love his pressure.

1275
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 7: I love the fact that he's so comfortable as a

1276
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 7: striker that he throws five, six, seven strikes at a time.

1277
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 7: He'll go to the body, he'll go upstairs, he mixes

1278
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 7: it up, stays in your face. So both these guys,

1279
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 7: I see them really with a lot of potential. But

1280
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 7: I think at this stage of their career, I'm leaning

1281
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 7: Malarkey as well.

1282
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Speaker 5: I love that fight. I'm gonna get excited when it

1283
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 5: gets to that point of the night. All Right. Strawweight

1284
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 5: title eliminator Marinarodriguez modus two ninety Yan Chounan plus two thirty,

1285
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 5: So Rodriguez should be fighting on pay per view in

1286
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 5: my opinion, She's unbeaten in eight UFC fights aside from

1287
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 5: that split decision lost to Carla as far as she's

1288
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 5: won back to back main events, including one against Michelle

1289
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Speaker 5: Waterson that she took on extremely short notice. Barely made

1290
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 5: it to the US for that one. Here she draws

1291
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 5: the also aspirational Yan Chounan. She was six and zero

1292
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 5: in the UFC prior to a stoppage lost to Carla

1293
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 5: as bar as a last May James, we'll have you

1294
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 5: lead us here. Rodriguez a near three to one favorite

1295
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Speaker 5: against Yan chaunan Uh.

1296
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Speaker 10: I really like to me when I look at that

1297
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 10: division that I don't think there's very many people that

1298
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Speaker 10: are gonna beat Rodriguez. I think she's incredible. I think

1299
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Speaker 10: she and she answered a lot of questions in her

1300
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 10: last fight. You know, she's able to deal with the ground,

1301
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 10: incredible striker, a good take down, that's good cardio.

1302
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of Rodriguez, and I don't see

1303
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 3: too many people beating her.

1304
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 10: I don't shut on. It's not one of them. In

1305
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 10: my opinion, She's really good, incredible fighter. I just don't

1306
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 10: see the tools necessary to beat Marina Rodriguez.

1307
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kenny, I think Rodriguez deserves the respect she's getting

1308
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 5: from the odds makers, and certainly beating Mackenzie during the

1309
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 5: way she did, I think was a huge feather in

1310
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 5: her cap. To James's point, your thoughts on Hadriguez and

1311
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 5: Jan Shannon.

1312
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I think she is showing improvement as a

1313
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 7: grappler for sure. She's going to continue to do that,

1314
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 7: you know, to become a champion and stay a champion,

1315
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 7: all that stuff. But I think that as a striker,

1316
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 7: her toughness, her dedication, her focus, you know, showing up

1317
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 7: when it matters, she has all of that, and I

1318
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 7: don't think Chaunan is going to be able to take

1319
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 7: that away from her.

1320
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Speaker 5: I like Hardriguez here as well. All right, Next up

1321
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 5: at heavyweight Sergey Spivak Modest two twenty against Greg Hardy

1322
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 5: plus one point eighty So Hardy fotch just sixty seven

1323
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 5: seconds all of last year. That was a quick knock.

1324
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 5: I lost to ty tu Ivasa last summer at UFC

1325
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 5: two sixty four. Spivok is a guy who I think

1326
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 5: a lot of people are high on. You know, ran

1327
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 5: into Tommy aspinall last September. No shame in that. I

1328
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 5: guess what do you guys think? Here? James will start

1329
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 5: with you Sergey Spivoc Modus two twenty against Greg Hardy.

1330
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 10: Before I answer this, where Kenny and I do we

1331
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 10: have the score?

1332
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 3: Yes up here?

1333
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 5: Well so yeah, I mean yeah, so yes, you have

1334
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 5: a so. Brian Petrie has been stepping in the last

1335
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 5: few weeks, a fellow handicapper. He didn't fight in the UFC. Incidentally,

1336
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 5: like yourself, but he's been on an absolute tear for

1337
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 5: for your team, right for teams, team Krous essentially went

1338
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 5: four and oh two weeks ago and h plus couple units,

1339
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 5: So right now overall, and again not to get long winded, right,

1340
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 5: but like you both are in the red. Like your

1341
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 5: team is minus point eight and Kenny's team is minus

1342
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 5: four point four because you have to pick every fight. Obviously,

1343
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 5: if I'm giving you guys a thousand bucks to pick

1344
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 5: a few fights, you're both gonna be in the black.

1345
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 5: But picking every fight, yes, you have a lead to

1346
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 5: play with. If you want to take a flyer on

1347
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 5: Greg cart.

1348
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, so I'm gonna go, I'll go Greg Hardy

1349
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 10: here and last week, if you guys follow me on TikTok,

1350
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 10: I went three for three and two of the three

1351
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 10: were props. So not only will I go Greg Hardy,

1352
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 10: I will go I know this doesn't help the show

1353
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 10: at all, but I would take Greg Hardy's not gonna

1354
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 10: win any other way other than knockout, right, uh, spit

1355
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 10: back could potentially win this fight for sure, no doubt.

1356
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 10: But if Greg Hardy's gonna win, my knockout is gonna be.

1357
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 10: You'll get a little bit more plus money out of it.

1358
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 10: Probably two fifty is what I'm guessing.

1359
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. I think that's he's got

1360
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 3: the power.

1361
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 10: He hurt too, I vasa, he's hurt just about everybody

1362
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 10: he's fought.

1363
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 3: If it goes past the first half of the first round,

1364
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 3: he's probably in trouble.

1365
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 10: Spiveek gets some downs, probably over but man, Hardy's he's

1366
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 10: tough for a few minutes.

1367
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's at the height of motivation, Kenny. For

1368
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 5: Greg Hardy, it's got to be now. I mean I

1369
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 5: would think it has got to be now. And I

1370
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 5: did expect more from him, I think relative to what

1371
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 5: he's accomplished at this point in the UFC. Your thoughts

1372
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 5: on Spivak and Hardy, but I agree with you, John,

1373
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 5: I think this is a huge fight for him. If

1374
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 5: he loses, I don't know. Is he still with the

1375
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 5: UFC at this point, I don't know. I think that

1376
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 5: for Spivak, I think overall he's probably the better fighter.

1377
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 5: I don't love this fight for him, though you know

1378
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 5: he does get hit. He's going to get to heavy

1379
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 5: puncher in Greg Hardy. So I see why James is

1380
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 5: picking Hardy.

1381
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 7: I'll go with Spivak here, but again, wouldn't be surprised

1382
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 7: if Hardy gets an early.

1383
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 5: Ko Kenny not racing to the window to bet Sergey Spivak. Incidentally,

1384
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 5: all right, four fights to go if my math is corrected.

1385
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 5: Welterweight Kevin Holland minus two sixty Alex cowboyle Evera plus

1386
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 5: two ten twenty sec UFC appearance for the underdog Cowboy Olvera.

1387
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 5: He's lost three in a row. Here James back up

1388
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 5: against the proverbial wall. What do you think he has

1389
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 5: for Kevin Holland? If anything, I'll be honest with you.

1390
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 10: I think Kevin is a younger, longer, faster, more technical

1391
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 10: version than him.

1392
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 3: And I like Kevin Holland at seventy. I think this

1393
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 3: is our first one one seventy, right, And normally, you know, I.

1394
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 10: Think it's important to note this is like whenever these

1395
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 10: guys switch divisions, a lot of time you worry about

1396
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 10: the weight cut, right, But like I've talked to Kevin

1397
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 10: on Fire Weeks numerous times, and you see him weighing

1398
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 10: at like one eighty three, you know.

1399
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 3: What I mean.

1400
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 10: Like I've asked him before, like hey, man, like what'd

1401
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 10: you wake up today? He's saying one eighty seven day

1402
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 10: weigh in, So it's just like when I see those things.

1403
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 3: He's got the way to give up, and he's made

1404
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 3: seventy before.

1405
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 10: You know, he fought at one seventy before the UFC

1406
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 10: as well, and he's not He's probably what I would

1407
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 10: call an in between her, but I think he's going

1408
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 10: to be able to make it as long as he's

1409
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 10: been disciplined on his Dieten Alex olivera kind of the

1410
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 10: wars in age catching up with him lately.

1411
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 3: I like Kevin all in here.

1412
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw Holland, excuse me, in Houston. I think

1413
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 5: he was a guest fighter. He looks lean, he looks

1414
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 5: ready to go. He's also winless in his last three

1415
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 5: Ken Flow, so a big spot for him as well.

1416
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 5: Maybe pushing the reset button a little bit by changing divisions.

1417
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 5: But I like Colin at Welterwaite over all. Your thoughts

1418
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 5: on him here against the Brazilian cowboy, Well, I.

1419
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 7: Do think that Kevin Holland is definitely the better fighter.

1420
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 7: He's more technical. I think he's better overall everywhere as well.

1421
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 7: But I think olivera sometimes when he's on his game,

1422
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 7: and that means just like in your face, grinding, making

1423
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 7: it a war and getting to the clinch and making

1424
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 7: an ugly fight.

1425
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 5: He can give you a really tough time.

1426
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 7: So Kevin has to be careful to not get into

1427
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 7: that game.

1428
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 5: And you know his trash talking is gonna work. Oliver

1429
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 5: doesn't really speak English.

1430
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 7: You know, he's not going to play into that so

1431
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 7: much or get fired up. He's gonna get right in

1432
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 7: your face all that stuff. So I think Kevin needs

1433
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 7: to play the slicker fighter, and he's absolutely capable of

1434
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 7: doing that.

1435
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 5: So I think Kevin wins this fight. So yeah, let's

1436
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 5: go with Kevin, and you're happy. You don't have to

1437
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 5: give me a round or a method of victory, all right?

1438
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 5: Moving on. Featured bout at one hundred and forty five pounds,

1439
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,879
Speaker 5: Bryce Mitchell minus one fifty five right now on DraftKings

1440
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 5: Sportsbook Edson Barbosa plus one thirty five. I love me

1441
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 5: some thug nasty James, even if I fail to see

1442
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 5: the value on him here at minus one fifty five.

1443
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 5: He's twenty seven years old, He's five to zero in

1444
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 5: the UFC. Barbosa is just beyond credentialed and I don't

1445
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 5: know how much fight there is left in the dog,

1446
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 5: but motivation has never been an issue for Barbosa. Massive

1447
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 5: step up for the Arkansas native Bryce Mitchell. How do

1448
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 5: you see him faring here, James against Edson Junior Barbosa.

1449
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 3: Well, there's two ways to think about this.

1450
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 10: Who you think is gonna win and then there's where

1451
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 10: the value is And a lot of times those are

1452
01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 10: the same.

1453
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 3: For me in this case, there not.

1454
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 5: Uh.

1455
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 10: I like Brysce Mitchell a lot. I think he's uh.

1456
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 10: I think he's I mean, he's dug nasty, you know

1457
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 10: what I mean. He's Yeah, it's I mean, he's uh.

1458
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 3: And unfortunately for me, I've coached TJ.

1459
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 10: Brown the last couple of fights and their teammates, so

1460
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 10: like I've had I've had the opportunity to spend some

1461
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 10: time with him, and he's just uh, he's he's uh,

1462
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 10: he's all there and he all there, don't care, you

1463
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 10: know what I mean.

1464
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 3: Like he's all there.

1465
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 10: On all the things he needs to be and he's

1466
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 10: nowhere to be found on the things that don't matter,

1467
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 10: you know. And uh So I do think he's gonna

1468
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 10: win this fight. However, to get Barbosa.

1469
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 5: I don't.

1470
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,959
Speaker 10: I can't remember the last time minus him fighting Gaichie

1471
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 10: or Kabib or sorry Kabeb, that I remember seeing him

1472
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 10: at plus money like like this anyway, And I could

1473
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,799
Speaker 10: be I could be way off, but like getting Barbosa

1474
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 10: at plus money against somebody that hasn't fought near the

1475
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 10: level of competition, you know, unless.

1476
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 3: We're talking about the elites.

1477
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 10: Barbosa's like you say, he's credential, he's thought the who's who,

1478
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 10: Gaiche can be all that, but like to get somebody

1479
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 10: that hasn't been tested yet in Bryce Mitchell, I do

1480
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 10: see the value on it in Barbosa here.

1481
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 3: So I'm picking h Bryce Mitchell.

1482
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 10: But from a value perspective, I do believe it's on

1483
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 10: Barbosa here. Ken, I think more like pick them right,

1484
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 10: like closer to a pick them fight too.

1485
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think yep, two absolutely, Ken flow over under

1486
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 5: twenty five UFC fights for Barbosa thus far. You think

1487
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 5: he's gone over that number under? I think he's gone over. Yeah,

1488
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 5: twenty seventh to UFC appearance this weekend for Barbosa. Some

1489
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 5: numbers Kenny prior to his fight with Cbibromago medal at

1490
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 5: UFC two nineteen in December of twenty seventeen. He was

1491
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 5: thirteen and four in the UFC at that point in time.

1492
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 5: Now he's lost six of nine, but my notes say

1493
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 5: he's still the fucking man. Like that's all that needs

1494
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 5: to be said, right, Like, he hasn't lost the shine

1495
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 5: despite the fact that he's lost six of nine. But

1496
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 5: the odds makers are paying attention, obviously to thug Nasty.

1497
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 5: How do you handicap this feature a boutis Featherwick?

1498
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I am surprised as well that he's such a

1499
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 7: big underdog, And you know, I do believe that thug

1500
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,520
Speaker 7: Nasty should be the favorite obviously.

1501
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 5: You know, has a lot of skills, very tough on

1502
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 5: the ground.

1503
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 7: I think if it goes to the ground, I like

1504
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 7: thug Nasty's chances for sure, he's definitely going to be

1505
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 7: better there. I think he's really good at mixing things

1506
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 7: up and getting to the clinch really well.

1507
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 5: But I don't know.

1508
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 7: Is he the dude to to throw down and land

1509
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 7: big shots and hurt Barbosa?

1510
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1511
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,839
Speaker 7: And is he the guy who's gonna consistently get Barbosa

1512
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 7: on his back?

1513
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 5: I'm not sure.

1514
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 7: I don't I could be wrong on that, but I

1515
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 7: think Barbosa gives him a much tougher time than people think,

1516
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 7: and because of that underdog bet I like Barbosa here.

1517
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 5: I think he squeezes out a decision win.

1518
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 7: But I just still think that, you know, thug, nasty

1519
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 7: Bryce Mitchell's got a ton of potential and I like

1520
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 7: what I've seen so far, but I think Barbosa kind

1521
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 7: of surprises here.

1522
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 5: I love the fight, you know. I love Matt like

1523
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 5: this where you have a guy ascending and then a

1524
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 5: guy who's been there and I really don't know what's

1525
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 5: gonna happen, but excited to see a play out, all right.

1526
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 5: Co main event was to be a five round main event,

1527
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 5: as you guys know, but visa issues delayed at Rafael

1528
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 5: Fhaziv's arrival here in the US, so it will be

1529
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 5: five rounds still if need be big fight at lightweight.

1530
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 5: The former champion Halfayel Dosanzo's the Rafael Hafael Thing's been

1531
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 5: screwed me up all week. He's plus through twenty five.

1532
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 5: Rafael Phazive is minus two to eighty James and a

1533
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 5: bulk of the early action on DraftKings is coming in

1534
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 5: on Rafayel Phazeb despite the high number he's won five

1535
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 5: in a row. Your thoughts on Phaziv here taking on

1536
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 5: the former championship.

1537
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 10: I gotta be honest, I just don't understand this line.

1538
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 10: I really don't. I this is the same as the

1539
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 10: Mitchell Barbosa fight. For me, it's the exact same type

1540
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 10: of thing. Like I do think that Phayziv is gonna

1541
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 10: win this fight, but I don't understand that.

1542
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 3: I don't want to.

1543
01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 10: We're talking about We're talking about physique being minus a

1544
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 10: three to one favorite over a guy that's a former

1545
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 10: champion that has got some.

1546
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 3: Very legitimate wins over kickboxers that fit the mole of

1547
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 3: physique almost to the t.

1548
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 2: So I know.

1549
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 10: RDA has been kind of I don't want to say,

1550
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 10: on the decline, but he's been in some wars and

1551
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 10: I know, you know, obviously Father Time is undefeated, but

1552
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 10: I don't.

1553
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 3: I just haven't seen him.

1554
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 10: Like we're not that far removed from him grinding out

1555
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 10: Felder for five rounds, you know what I mean? Like

1556
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 10: Felder and Phyzib are the same guy to me, you

1557
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 10: know what I mean? And I know Felder took down

1558
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 10: a short notes, I just don't I don't see the.

1559
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 3: I don't understand the line. I don't. I don't quite

1560
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 3: get that.

1561
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 10: I would say, if you, if you were to tell

1562
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 10: me the matchup, like without me looking out, I would

1563
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 10: say Physie minus one fifty Maybe that would make a

1564
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 10: little bit more sense to me.

1565
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 3: Maybe even one seventy five. But minus two to eighty

1566
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,839
Speaker 3: is is crazy to me. I don't understand.

1567
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they had leaned too heavily into the layoff, right,

1568
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 5: and you know the age right, RDA will be thirty

1569
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 5: eight in October. Phazeb is twenty cops to.

1570
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 3: That, just like I'm I'm thirty six in June, and

1571
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, like, good, good for you, Good for you, buddy,

1572
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 3: good for you.

1573
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 5: So so ultimately we will need a selection for the record,

1574
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 5: my man.

1575
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's go all right.

1576
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 5: So ken fo Haafel Dosanos did not fight at all

1577
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one. Three times he was scheduled to

1578
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 5: fight Islamikashev, and obviously that fight failed to come together,

1579
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,759
Speaker 5: and that's been part of the issue for dos Angos.

1580
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,839
Speaker 5: You know, the McGregor fight going away because of an injury.

1581
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 5: But I don't know, man, like I can understand why

1582
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 5: people think that plus two twenty five is out of whack.

1583
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 5: As yet, the action hasn't necessarily reflected any sentiment like that.

1584
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 5: Ken fo, who do you have in the comain kid?

1585
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 7: Rumor has it that combat sports kind of takes effect

1586
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 7: on your body. I'm not sure if that's true a

1587
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 7: little bit, but yeah, I mean I feel eighty.

1588
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 5: Okay, So.

1589
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 7: I think I think that the odds are absolutely out

1590
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 7: of whack. I think the bookmakers are just looking at

1591
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 7: what someone has done lately and not considering the matchup.

1592
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 7: And listen, if this fight stays on the feet, you know,

1593
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 7: given the age difference and what's been done, yeah, absolutely

1594
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,839
Speaker 7: Physique wins this fight. So if he can stop the takedown,

1595
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 7: that's gonna be his best path to victory, you know,

1596
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 7: peppering dose angos up. But I think I think Halfael

1597
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 7: is going to use his striking more as a means

1598
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 7: to get Physique up against the cage and put him

1599
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 7: on his back. I think that's going to be his

1600
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 7: best route to winning this fight. I think he can

1601
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 7: do that. Physique is a tremendous striker. But when I

1602
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 7: look at the guys that he's beaten. Who are the

1603
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,799
Speaker 7: great grapplers that he's gone against. Who are the Brazilian

1604
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 7: goods to black belts. Who are the guys that have

1605
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 7: consistently shown that they can take guys down and control them.

1606
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 7: I don't see that from right now, and I can

1607
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 7: only go on what I've seen. Physique might be a

1608
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 7: tremendous anti wrestler and really good at getting back to

1609
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 7: his feed and better submissions than we think and all

1610
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 7: that stuff, But based on what I've seen, I actually

1611
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 7: like dos Angels here because of the matchup and because

1612
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 7: of the odds. But the fact that dos Angos is,

1613
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 7: you know, has been in this game for a long time.

1614
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 7: He's a little bit older now and he didn't get

1615
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 7: a chance to fight in twenty twenty one. That tells

1616
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 7: me he's dealing with a lot of body stuff, So

1617
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 7: that worries me. But you know, hopefully he's healthy, and

1618
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 7: if he is, I think he surprises and he kind

1619
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 7: of stops Physibue a little bit.

1620
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 5: And I will just add in closing on that fight,

1621
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 5: I do think Dosanjos took advantage of that tiny little

1622
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 5: APEX octagon against Paul Felders, so about thirty one percent

1623
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 5: more space with which to work for PHYSIV to use

1624
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 5: some of those long range weapons. But we'll see, all right.

1625
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 5: Main event deep breaths, folks. Colby Covington minus three thirty

1626
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 5: five Jorge game Bred Mosvidal plus two sixty former opponent

1627
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 5: of one James Krause. So Monsidal has had ten months

1628
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 5: off since that second straight loss to Kamara Uspan. On

1629
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 5: the other side, Covington just had his can fight with

1630
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 5: Usman November six, so this is a relatively quick four

1631
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 5: month swing and turn for Colby Covington, the Mouth from

1632
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 5: the South. I wish he was from the South, could

1633
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 5: call him the Mouth from the South. But I think

1634
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 5: this is so much strategic for Jorge mosfiedal right to

1635
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 5: have an abbreviated six week training camp for Colby Covington

1636
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 5: coming off another hard fight against Kamara Ousman. But I

1637
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 5: will lay out and let the experts speak. James will

1638
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 5: start with you. Uh Colby Covington heavily favored over game

1639
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 5: Bred mosfeedal.

1640
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 3: Uh Man, it's you know, it's funny. We it's funny.

1641
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 3: We were talking about this.

1642
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 10: This is just another case where I feel like the

1643
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 10: value is a little off. I do like Colby in

1644
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 10: this fight, and if you have a gun to my head,

1645
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 10: I'm gonna take Kobe by decision. But man, I think

1646
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 10: mas what, I'll bring some good stuff to the table.

1647
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 10: And I think he's extremely underrated in his takedown the fence.

1648
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 10: I think it's striking as actually getting better, which you know,

1649
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 10: you typically don't see that with guys his age. And

1650
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 10: and I do feel like there's there's a little big

1651
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 10: brother there, you know.

1652
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 3: I got to think that that Mazodol was.

1653
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 10: Helping helping, you know, Kobe navigate his way through uh,

1654
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 10: through the UFC and through the ranks, and you know,

1655
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 10: helping him just like any any mentor would do for

1656
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 10: for somebody.

1657
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 3: That you're you know, I know they were peers or whatever.

1658
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 10: But Mazdo had been around much longer, He'd been in

1659
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 10: the game much longer, and I got to think there's

1660
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 10: a little big brother there, you know. Uh.

1661
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 3: I like Colby. I like his gas tank. Uh he's

1662
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 3: got a second long apparently, is what he said, in

1663
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 3: which I thought that was cool.

1664
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 10: So uh uh, yeah, I'm going to take kolbe uh,

1665
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 10: but I would not be surprised, and I want I

1666
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 10: want George to win, and I would not be surprised

1667
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 10: in the in the least bit if he if he

1668
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 10: pulled off a win.

1669
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So Kenny, it's funny because my Colby Covington

1670
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 5: fighter card says third long soccer eight years old or something, right,

1671
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 5: because he knew as a very young athlete like dude,

1672
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 5: And I don't know for you guys if you can relate,

1673
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 5: but as a very young athlete, Kobe was like, dude,

1674
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 5: I'm running circles around these kids, you know, like he

1675
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 5: felt and I fell early on like such as softy right,

1676
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 5: like mom, I think I might have like exercise inducedasma

1677
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 5: or so not a probaject. Get checked out, you know.

1678
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 5: Kenny coming to mostital for feels like for all the

1679
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 5: goddamn marbles, even though there's not a belt on the line,

1680
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 5: who do you have in the main events? This is

1681
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 5: a tough one.

1682
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 7: I think Colby style wise, is going to be a

1683
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 7: tough fight for Jorge, right. I mean, for all the

1684
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 7: reasons that James talked about, he's he's a very good grappler.

1685
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 7: He can get in your face. He's as durable as

1686
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 7: they come. You know, even when you think you're gonna

1687
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 7: be able to take him out. He finds a way

1688
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 7: to come back now because he is well conditioned. But

1689
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 7: he really is one of the toughest damn dudes in

1690
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 7: the UFC. It's amazing the punishment that he can take

1691
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 7: and can dish out. So that's concerning for Jorge. I

1692
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 7: think that's the way he has to fight him. It's

1693
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 7: got to be pressure. He's got to mix up his strikes,

1694
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 7: but he's got to work in the takedowns. What concerns

1695
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,719
Speaker 7: be for Colby is the fact that sometimes he gets

1696
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 7: caught up trading to much and doesn't use his wrestling

1697
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 7: like he should. So curious to see how that goes down.

1698
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 7: But Jorge lost to Uzman. It was a horrible knockout,

1699
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 7: a really tough one.

1700
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 5: But for me, even.

1701
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 7: Before the knockout happened, it just didn't look right to me.

1702
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 7: Jorgey didn't seem like he was moving well. He seemed slow,

1703
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 7: he seemed lethargic, it seemed like he had gone through

1704
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 7: a brutal training camp.

1705
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 5: He just seemed done, like he peaked way too soon.

1706
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 7: And I wonder if that's why, if he's done a

1707
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 7: shortened camp because of that, I don't know whatever it is,

1708
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 7: but I think Jorge is highly skilled. You know, as

1709
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 7: far as being a true mixed martial artist, Jorge is

1710
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 7: that dude. He's very good and very underrated as a grappler.

1711
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 7: I also like the fact that you know, he's not

1712
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 7: going against an Uzman sized welterweight. Colby isn't a massive welterweight.

1713
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 7: He's a decent sized welterweight, but he's not a huge

1714
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,759
Speaker 7: wealth throw so I think that bodes well for Jorge

1715
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 7: here as well.

1716
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 5: And I also think it's.

1717
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 7: Great that Jorge knows all the ins and outs of

1718
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 7: Kolbe's game.

1719
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 5: That helps.

1720
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 7: I think if they'd never trained with each other, I'd

1721
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 7: be like Kolbe all day. I think it was maybe

1722
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 7: be an easier pick in some ways, but because you know,

1723
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 7: maybe I'm just an old school fan and I've been

1724
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 7: seeing Jorge fight for so long, I'm gonna go with

1725
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 7: Jorge here.

1726
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 5: I like the odds here. I like him as an

1727
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 5: underdog bet.

1728
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 7: I think when he's on his game, he's as good

1729
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 7: and as dangerous as anybody in the weal toweight division.

1730
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 7: A concern of mine is one that we talked about

1731
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 7: with Ray is the emotional connection here. Who's gonna deal

1732
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 7: with that better? Who's gonna deal with the pressure better?

1733
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 7: Colby has done very well dealing with that, but.

1734
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 5: They both have. Yeah, that's true, absolutely.

1735
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 8: Well.

1736
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 5: Ken Flill is not on TikTok yet, but James Krause

1737
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 5: is there already. He's ahead of the curve. You can

1738
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 5: also find him on Instagram at the James Krause. Hey,

1739
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 5: it's good to see your face again, brother, and we

1740
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,560
Speaker 5: will talk to you whenever your schedule allows over the

1741
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 5: next several months. My man, I will see you Thursday

1742
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 5: or Friday, if not sooner. I and thank you guys,

1743
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 5: appreciate it, Yes, thank you? All right, James Krause with

1744
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 5: us for the main event challenge? How about Ken Flow

1745
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:23,560
Speaker 5: pulling out the testicles?

1746
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 7: Hi?

1747
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 5: Going Barbosa dos On, Jos Mafidal, three underdogs. You're not

1748
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,440
Speaker 5: messing around for you say those points.

1749
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 7: But I genuinely, I genuinely think those guys are being overlooked.

1750
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 8: Man.

1751
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 5: The odds are funny here. Yeah. And the thing too,

1752
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 5: candidly for the main event, right, is that if you

1753
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 5: pick Covington and he loses, right, it's like minus three

1754
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 5: point four units or so right, you lose monsfiital, you

1755
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 5: lose a unit. You know, I do think I understand

1756
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 5: value on all three sides of those. All right, one

1757
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 5: final order of business. Let us get to the pick

1758
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 5: to click.

1759
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,839
Speaker 9: Time now for the pick to click, the pic to click.

1760
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 5: All I have to do is bet the winner and

1761
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 5: I'll never move.

1762
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,480
Speaker 1: John Hannag and Kenny Florian Podcast.

1763
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 5: Oh and it is great to see this man shining face. Now,

1764
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 5: this isn't oddshark dot com right now, So you're not

1765
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 5: getting Joe Osborne or on his social media which, by

1766
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 5: the way, at Paperchaser Joe on Instagram and on Twitter.

1767
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 5: It is at jtfoz.

1768
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 6: But we're not.

1769
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 5: Getting you sliding into frame on the old office chair,

1770
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 5: which is a great way to start your videos. When

1771
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 5: did you start doing that, my man?

1772
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 2: Well, to rip off of the Chris Collins birth Sunday

1773
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 2: Night football move obviously, right, and just trying to entertain

1774
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 2: the people, right, There's a thousand other guys out here

1775
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: covering sports, betting games and doing picks every day, so

1776
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: you got to make an effort to stand out. So, uh,

1777
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 2: miss little wrinkle there that a little bit of fun

1778
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 2: to the videos.

1779
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, mission a common because one out of every three

1780
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 5: times my twin brother calls me, it's to talk about

1781
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 5: your content. So plenty more where that came from at

1782
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 5: oddshark dot com. But obviously it's a big weekend. You

1783
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 5: have seen two seventy two Colby Covington versus Jorge mossfeed all.

1784
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 5: I know you have a pick on the main event.

1785
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 5: You know, I'm curious how much you handicap emotion or

1786
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 5: the whole emotional backdrop to this fight. But what are

1787
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 5: your thoughts on the headliner and ultimately will you have

1788
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 5: a wager?

1789
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 6: Well?

1790
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 2: I like Covington. I think his style and pace will

1791
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 2: dictate you know, how this fight goes. But you got

1792
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 2: to try to get a better number. Like I often

1793
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: say when I come on your program, You're a whole

1794
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 2: lot of people aren't watching to here to place a

1795
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 2: bet that's at minus three thirty five right now. So

1796
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 2: I think a pretty good bet that you can make

1797
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 2: on Covington is you can take them to win by

1798
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 2: decision coming in at minus one ten. And you know,

1799
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 2: as skilled and as dominant as Colby has been in

1800
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: the recent years here not really much of a finisher,

1801
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 2: is he Six of his last eight fights have gone

1802
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 2: to decision. The two that didn't actually ended in the

1803
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 2: fifth ront, So I think we're in for a very

1804
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 2: long fight here. As for Matt masvil not exactly an

1805
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 2: easy guy to put away, is he now. People will

1806
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 2: point to his most recent defeat there, the k loss

1807
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 2: at the hands of Kmaro Uzman, but that was the

1808
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 2: first time in about twelve years, a span of about

1809
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 2: thirty fights that Jorge Masvidal was finished, the first time

1810
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 2: in twenty UFC fights that the guy got finished, and

1811
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 2: quite simply as good as Covington is, he doesn't have

1812
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 2: the power in his strikes to put away a guy

1813
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: like Masvidal, and I think a submission also very unlikely

1814
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 2: now in terms of how the fight plays out, I

1815
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised to see shades Masvidal Usman won the

1816
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 2: fight where Usman won that fight by decision. You know,

1817
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 2: Kolby's going to land his takedowns. I don't know if

1818
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 2: he's going to be able to hold Masvadal down, but

1819
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 2: he's going to be scoring points there. I also think

1820
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 2: he's going to outland him with the strikes. Once again,

1821
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 2: he might not inflict a whole lot of damage with

1822
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 2: those strikes, but I think he will be out pointing

1823
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 2: him in winning rounds. So I like Cumington. He's probably

1824
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,799
Speaker 2: the best guy in the UFC without a belt around

1825
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 2: his waist right now, so I see him coming out

1826
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 2: on top here now. To argue against myself a little

1827
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 2: bit here maybe if you don't like what I have

1828
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 2: to say, and if you're settled on Masvidal, Masvidal by

1829
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 2: TKO slash ko is plus four sixty. I think if

1830
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 2: he wins this fight, it's gonna be by a knockout,

1831
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 2: so I can't really argue with that too much. But

1832
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 2: my official pick best bet is a Covington by decision

1833
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: minus one ten.

1834
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 5: And you know, as we sit here early fight week,

1835
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 5: Jorge Mosfiedal is sitting around knowing full well in his

1836
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 5: mind and thinking that he's knocking out this man, and

1837
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 5: you're getting close to plus five hundred. Could you imagine

1838
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 5: what it's going to be like at Timobilarina were he

1839
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,560
Speaker 5: to knockout Colby Covington as the underdog that he is

1840
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 5: this weekend, just given everything that is seemingly on the line,

1841
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm getting anxious talking about this fight. I

1842
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 5: really am. Like people always ask go to the McGregor.

1843
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 5: Pay per views feel bigger when You're staring into the

1844
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 5: camera and it's like I'm getting ready to pack my

1845
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 5: suitcase and like I'm getting a little bit anxious for

1846
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 5: this fight. All Right, a couple other FC two seventy

1847
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 5: two items I would like to hit on with you.

1848
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 5: Sergei Spivak is minus two fifteen or so, Greg Hardy

1849
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 5: plus one seventy five heavyweight fight on the pay per

1850
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,839
Speaker 5: view main card. You're smiling. What is it about this,

1851
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 5: this price or this fight that you like?

1852
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 2: Well, not really the price. I like spivoc here minus

1853
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 2: two point fifteen. Not exactly going out on the limb

1854
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,799
Speaker 2: and just straight up, John, I don't think Freg Hardy

1855
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 2: is very good. I wouldn't be surprised if this is

1856
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: his final fight in the UFC. And all you have

1857
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 2: to do is look at the level of competition that

1858
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 2: this guy has faced in the octagon. He has four

1859
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 2: wins in the UFC. So what do you need to

1860
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 2: know about the four opponents he has wins against. Well,

1861
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 2: those guys are no longer in the promotion anymore. You know,

1862
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: Hardy was able to overwhelm those guys and he ended

1863
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 2: up getting the w against him, but whenever he's in

1864
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 2: there with somebody who's even slightly above average, it has

1865
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 2: not gone very well for him. Now, I'm not going

1866
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 2: to get up here and make a case for uh

1867
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 2: speed back being a top contender by any means they're

1868
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 2: breaking through. But I still think he's levels above Hardy.

1869
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 2: He has more pass to victory, you know, a good

1870
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: mix of submission and KO wins, so that will be

1871
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 2: like a two unit two and a half unit play

1872
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 2: for me on him. Now. I'm not a big parlay guy.

1873
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 2: A lot of people who are into sports betting like

1874
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 2: doing parlays. He's not a bad candidate for a LONT

1875
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,719
Speaker 2: throwing on one. If you have him with Colby Covington,

1876
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 2: you're going to get adds around minus one ten. So

1877
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 2: that's not bad for a two fight parlay right there.

1878
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 2: But I like spievek Ober, Greg Hardy quite a bit.

1879
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I would be surprised if that was not

1880
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 5: the overwhelming sharp side there. It's interesting with Hardy right

1881
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 5: because I think you'd have to say at this point

1882
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 5: respectfully that he has underachieved relative to expectations for whatever

1883
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 5: that's worth. All right, And one last fight I got

1884
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 5: to get your thoughts on real quick. I'm not sure

1885
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 5: if you have a bet on this, but Edson Barbosa

1886
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 5: and thug nasty Rice Mitchell. I thought it would be

1887
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 5: a Pickham fight, just because Bryce Mitchell's UFC body of

1888
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 5: work is strong to quite strong. I didn't expect that

1889
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,600
Speaker 5: Edson Barboza could be had at plus one thirty, just

1890
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 5: given what an absolute terror he is. I still get

1891
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 5: nightmares about his knockout of Terry Adam. What do you

1892
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 5: have for us on the featherweights before we let you go?

1893
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: I have my my favorite underdog of the entire card here.

1894
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 2: It is Edson Barbosa, So I'm aligned with you. You know,

1895
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 2: I think this should be right around to pick him.

1896
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 2: You know, Bryce Mitchell's put together a pretty impressive career

1897
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 2: undefeated in the UFC here so far. But this is

1898
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 2: a massive step up in competition for him. You know,

1899
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 2: a true measuring stick fight for Bryce Mitchell here against

1900
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 2: Edgson Barbosa, easily the most experienced and best opponent of

1901
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 2: his career so far. So outside of his most recent fight,

1902
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 2: a very ugly loss, I think Barbosa has looked pretty

1903
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 2: damn good in this weight class, but that was an

1904
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 2: ugly loss his last time out. But as a result

1905
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 2: of that, I think there's a little bit of recency

1906
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 2: bias Cooketon this line, So I'm gonna jump all over him.

1907
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: And I still think Barbosa has a lot left in

1908
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: the tank, especially versus this level of opponent. Like you

1909
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 2: take a look at the fight logs for Barbosa, there's

1910
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,679
Speaker 2: a lot of l's in there. It's not very pretty

1911
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 2: his win loss record over the past couple of years,

1912
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 2: but he's not exactly getting beat up by bums. You know.

1913
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 2: He's been in there with a very high level of competition,

1914
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 2: a couple close split decision losses as well. So I

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