Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Better Half the Hour. I'm
Speaker 1: Joe and we are here with pilot Pete. Last week
Speaker 1: we actually Pete, we recapture Night one episode. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about that?
Speaker 2: What? What a choice?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Why in the world did you would you do that?
Speaker 3: I haven't it's I haven't watched it yet since since
Speaker 3: actually was airing live Night one.
Speaker 2: So interesting to rehash?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, honestly it was. It makes sense why
Speaker 1: like rewatching it, and obviously you were very popular guy,
Speaker 1: and you came off a very popular season, but just
Speaker 1: like watching it Night one, it made it makes total
Speaker 1: sense why your season was so big and like why
Speaker 1: it stayed that way because your Night one was wild.
Speaker 3: It was just so chaotic from like the exact like
Speaker 3: the very beginning.
Speaker 1: Okay, so did it feel because watching it it seemed chaotic?
Speaker 1: Did it feel chaotic for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Man, it's a crazy time to kind of go back
Speaker 3: to and like rehash, I think for the two biggest
Speaker 3: things that like just threw me for such like a
Speaker 3: loop and like started the night off in like such
Speaker 3: a crazy way, and I was just like trying to
Speaker 3: hang on for dear life. Was the hand of the
Speaker 3: thing and then the suspense of not knowing if Kelly
Speaker 3: was going to be there, that whole build up until
Speaker 3: the very end. Actually, I think she was one of
Speaker 3: the lot or no, the two of them were like
Speaker 3: back to back, I think so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything was like kind of going good. It was fun.
Speaker 3: I was having a good time from like the intros,
Speaker 3: and then that just like threw me for a loop
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 4: Well, you must have been kind of waiting to see
Speaker 4: if Kelly was going to come out. Then she finally dies,
Speaker 4: and then another lima pulls up and you're probably like,
Speaker 4: who the hell is this?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, the entire time, every single time the door
Speaker 3: would open, I'd be like, is that Kelly?
Speaker 2: Is that Kelly? Is that Kelly?
Speaker 3: And then finally it is her, and then I'm like
Speaker 3: already thrown for or not a loop. I was just
Speaker 3: like excited, but then Hannah comes and I'm like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, what am I doing here?
Speaker 2: This is I'm in over my head.
Speaker 1: But yeah, one night, was there was there any part
Speaker 1: of you that thought Hannah was going to jump on
Speaker 1: your season?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what I thought she was gonna do.
Speaker 3: I like I was the only one that didn't like
Speaker 3: really realize it in the moment, like obviously she did
Speaker 3: and all the you know, producers everything, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: oh you're leaving, Oh gotcha? Okay, And so yeah, I
Speaker 3: was a little bit of roller coashy. You get excited
Speaker 3: for a bit and then you know and then it turns.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I definitely that's initially what I thought she
Speaker 3: was doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, other than those two who do you remember being
Speaker 4: like standouts coming out of the limo, you.
Speaker 3: Know what also threw me for a loop, And I
Speaker 3: kind of like felt like, oh boy was the kiss.
Speaker 3: There was a kiss from I think it was Savannah.
Speaker 3: I remember, because I truly remember going in. I was like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not going to kiss one girl
Speaker 3: this entire night, Like I no, I swear to god,
Speaker 3: you like laugh and you don't believe it, but I did.
Speaker 2: That was my intention, And I was like I get that.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm just going to like make this easy on.
Speaker 3: Myself, Like I'm not going to like let that be
Speaker 3: a source of drama or any of that. Like I'm
Speaker 3: going to truly use this time wisely and like try
Speaker 3: to feel any type of connection, nothing like physical added
Speaker 3: to it with all these women. And then that plan
Speaker 3: went down the drain because when when Savannah kissed me,
Speaker 3: like took all that thunder us like, no, no, it's
Speaker 3: all gone now.
Speaker 4: Well then you're like, I guess who cares? I already
Speaker 4: kissed one girl, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, That's how my mind was working. So then
Speaker 3: I think I probably kissed too many girls that first night?
Speaker 4: But how many did you kiss? Do you remember?
Speaker 2: I want to say it was like twelve.
Speaker 3: And the only reason I remember that is because I
Speaker 3: have that number tattooed on my finger, so I always remember,
Speaker 3: like correlated that.
Speaker 2: I think it was like twelve. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Wait, just to clarify, you didn't get that number tattooed
Speaker 4: because you kissed twelve girls. I want, right.
Speaker 1: The way you.
Speaker 4: Said that really made it like that's what you did?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I would we expect to move.
Speaker 1: That would be a sick move, that would leave.
Speaker 3: Twelve girls insane. No, this is from the Seahawks for
Speaker 3: the twelfth Man. After that we won our first Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: my brother and I got the twelfth Man tattooed.
Speaker 1: So okay, just a quick question. I've actually and we're friends.
Speaker 1: But I've never asked you this, or maybe I haven't.
Speaker 1: I forgot the answer. But why in the world are
Speaker 1: you a Seattle Seahawks fan?
Speaker 2: Everyone always yeah, is curious.
Speaker 3: So my dad he used to live out in Seattle
Speaker 3: and in seventy six he was out there doing flight training.
Speaker 3: The team was founded in seventy six, so he became
Speaker 3: a huge fan. We'd go to a bunch of games
Speaker 3: at the Kingdom. And then when I got into football,
Speaker 3: was like ten, ten eleven. My dad just naturally, you know,
Speaker 3: got my brother and I into the Hawks. But Ben
Speaker 3: die hard ever since. So clarification, it was twelve for
Speaker 3: the Hawks, not for the girls, all right.
Speaker 4: Twelve for the girls, just not tattooed on his body
Speaker 4: for the girls.
Speaker 1: One thing we saw a lot in your first night,
Speaker 1: where I guess we do maybe you and I kind
Speaker 1: of exaggerated this a little bit, but we see like
Speaker 1: so many girls interrupting other girls while they're having conversations
Speaker 1: with you. Was that throwing you off at all? Do
Speaker 1: you remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, just as like a little annoying, I think,
Speaker 3: especially if you're like into I mean, it's annoying. And
Speaker 3: then it's also like a blessing because if you're not
Speaker 3: really into the conversation, it's a great lead out and
Speaker 3: it's like, hey, it was so nice talking to you,
Speaker 3: and you get to move on. But when you were
Speaker 3: really into someone and you didn't want that conversation, and
Speaker 3: it's just like ah, and you can't say, you know,
Speaker 3: you can't be the one saying no, you got to
Speaker 3: be polite.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was both.
Speaker 3: There was two different emotions that you would get, you know,
Speaker 3: from those situations going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you you're pilot heat, So you were a
Speaker 1: pilot and you still are a pilot. Was there ever
Speaker 1: any period of time where because we do see, like
Speaker 1: the truth is most most people that go on the
Speaker 1: show and become the lead, most not everyone, usually end
Speaker 1: up leaving their careers or jobs and kind of like
Speaker 1: lean more into the world of social media or what
Speaker 1: happens next. Were you ever considering leaving being a pilot?
Speaker 2: No? Never, There was never any consideration of that for me.
Speaker 3: This the whole Like I look back and I'm just like,
Speaker 3: I like pinch myself sometimes too, I'm like, how did
Speaker 3: how in the world did that happen? Like how did
Speaker 3: I make that like a how did I find a
Speaker 3: way for that to happen? Just kind of coming into
Speaker 3: this whole world, but maintain obviously my professional career is flying,
Speaker 3: just because they're so different and it's it wasn't easy
Speaker 3: like it was. It was a lot of work, a
Speaker 3: lot of luck, and I don't know if just like
Speaker 3: it just kind of meant to be. But I still
Speaker 3: like am shocked that it just all worked out the
Speaker 3: way it did. But for me, if flying didn't work
Speaker 3: of a trip, wasn't getting get picked.
Speaker 2: Up, I wasn't going to do the show.
Speaker 3: And I kind of like I took a huge risk
Speaker 3: because I remember for the Bachelorette, I only had the
Speaker 3: first two weeks off and they're like, oh, you need
Speaker 3: for sure two months committed off and you need to
Speaker 3: commit that to us.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yep, I'm good. I didn't.
Speaker 3: I had two weeks and I I just remember thinking, damn,
Speaker 3: if this keeps going, like I'm just gonna have to
Speaker 3: find a way, like and just figure this out. And
Speaker 3: it kept going, and the first week I remember, I
Speaker 3: was like so uncomfortable and like out of my skin.
Speaker 3: I just didn't just having like like just I just
Speaker 3: did not feel good about the whole, you know situation.
Speaker 3: I like almost left. I was like, I can't keep
Speaker 3: doing this, Like I got to get.
Speaker 2: Out of this environment.
Speaker 3: And then I got past that first week and I
Speaker 3: just I started to get a little bit more comfortable.
Speaker 2: Son obviously I.
Speaker 3: Stayed and then I like remember having to get my
Speaker 3: iPad out with like the producers like trying to request
Speaker 3: these trips off and trade them, and like I just
Speaker 3: had to as I went, I was just I was
Speaker 3: dropping trips and making it work.
Speaker 1: So that's how I say, that's how you did it?
Speaker 1: Did you tell like were they aware that you were
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor.
Speaker 2: Or nobody knew what I was doing? Nobody had any idea.
Speaker 4: So the Bachelor thought that you had two months off,
Speaker 4: and your job thought that you were just taking a
Speaker 4: two week vag hay shed.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, No I never told, Like I never
Speaker 3: told any coworkers.
Speaker 2: I've just I didn't even tell my friends.
Speaker 3: With Peter, I didn't even tell my friends what I
Speaker 3: was doing because I like, I don't know if I'm
Speaker 3: such a rule follower. I remember you get the packet
Speaker 3: and it's like you cannot tell anybody what you're doing.
Speaker 3: Everything has to be a secret, and I like took
Speaker 3: that way too seriously.
Speaker 2: So I didn't tell anyone except my immediate family.
Speaker 3: I had like a going away party because I obviously
Speaker 3: wanted to see my friends one more time. They thought
Speaker 3: someone thought I was going to space, like doing some
Speaker 3: type of like you know, partnership with that. But I
Speaker 3: didn't tell anybody until like everything came out and did.
Speaker 2: Your parents know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, yea, my parents, my brother knew. But
Speaker 3: that was literally it.
Speaker 2: I feel like I was.
Speaker 1: I feel like I was the same way. I remember
Speaker 1: going to to the Gucci store, of course, to spend
Speaker 1: the rest of my money on a suit, and I
Speaker 1: remember walking in.
Speaker 2: There Gucci suit Night one.
Speaker 1: I get a Gucci suit and then five days before
Speaker 1: I try not and it's so tight. We're like, like
Speaker 1: my buddies like you honestly, like you look like peewee Herman.
Speaker 1: You cannot wear that suit, Like you can't wear that suit.
Speaker 1: So then I go to tom Ford and I buy
Speaker 1: a suit at tom Ford. I spent all this money
Speaker 1: I spent basically my savings, like I spent everything, and
Speaker 1: then I go whole night one. I couldn't fucking bully.
Speaker 1: I was like, I am this makes total sense. I
Speaker 1: am a complete idiot, Like.
Speaker 3: Wait, did you get to turn any of the suits
Speaker 3: or no?
Speaker 1: No? But luckily, oh I may have met I think
Speaker 1: I think Gucci actually gave me store credit and the
Speaker 1: tom Ford suit I still wear, so I've had it
Speaker 1: now for like five years, okay, And it wasn't at
Speaker 1: that time like it was expensive, but it wasn't like
Speaker 1: outrageous like I feel like now like some of their
Speaker 1: suits are like eight grand. I want to say it
Speaker 1: was probably like a like a twenty five hundred dollars suit,
Speaker 1: which wasn't there maybe like three grand, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: that crazy.
Speaker 3: Damn Guccio, you went all out. I remember, yeah, I
Speaker 3: didn't get so I wanted. I was so excited to
Speaker 3: wear a suit, and then they had me do the uniform,
Speaker 3: which I was.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was uncomfortable a little bit at first, like ah,
Speaker 3: should I do that? But then I was like no,
Speaker 3: I want to own this, and and then it became
Speaker 3: that was cool with it, but that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Do you did you realize did you know so we
Speaker 1: actually disagreed on this? Did you realize that you cut
Speaker 1: every flight attendant night one? At the time. Did you
Speaker 1: know you were doing that?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, for sure at the time. No.
Speaker 3: I think someone did tell me that later on, or
Speaker 3: it was it came up in an interview, But that
Speaker 3: was completely that was just that was random that like
Speaker 3: I didn't do that on purpose at all, Like I
Speaker 3: honestly always thought it'd be the coolest thing in the
Speaker 3: world to marry a flight attendant and kind of like
Speaker 3: do what my parents did, just because, like to be honest,
Speaker 3: they just get your lifestyle obviously, so like in a
Speaker 3: way know, like someone outside the industry doesn't understand. So
Speaker 3: I think I remember feeling like pretty bummed and like, shoot,
Speaker 3: did I really Like I had no idea that's the
Speaker 3: way it went.
Speaker 4: But that's so funny. I thought I thought that you
Speaker 4: were like I'm not dating a flight attendant, like or
Speaker 4: like this is too risky with my job situation. Joe
Speaker 4: was like, I doubt he had any idea about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, true in the moment, for sure, no idea. And
Speaker 3: I think there there was one United Flight attendant, Megan.
Speaker 3: She was I actually haven't flown with her, but I
Speaker 3: know she was United Flight senate.
Speaker 2: She's senior to me.
Speaker 4: I'm kidding it would be, though, I guess, but I
Speaker 4: guess looking back, like now they think about it, like
Speaker 4: there's no way you can remember every person's name, job
Speaker 4: where they're from, like night wide, like there's oh no,
Speaker 4: there's no way you were like those three were flight
Speaker 4: attendants by like I.
Speaker 3: Think the only one I knew was Megan because she
Speaker 3: was dressed in her uniform and she yeah, she.
Speaker 4: Probably maybe like sh worked for United, and you were like, oh,
Speaker 4: me too, Well.
Speaker 3: Didn't you work for Delta at the time or no,
Speaker 3: yeah at that time, I wasn't even that United yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so guys.
Speaker 3: So going back to the story, So then I do
Speaker 3: the batch threat, right, and I'm like trying to get
Speaker 3: all these days off and as we go, and then
Speaker 3: I ended up having it the full two months, right,
Speaker 3: And I think I had like a trip, like I
Speaker 3: cut about like three days. I was in Crete, Greece
Speaker 3: at the finale of that season, and three days later,
Speaker 3: I'm like back to my day job again.
Speaker 2: Flying.
Speaker 3: I'm just like my mind is just so not caught
Speaker 3: up from what I just did the last two months,
Speaker 3: and now I'm back to flying.
Speaker 2: So that was like a trip.
Speaker 4: But then that's crazy people don't talk about that enough.
Speaker 4: The transition of coming out of filming a show and
Speaker 4: then having to go back to everyday life is really
Speaker 4: mentally like a challenging part of it all. I can't
Speaker 4: imagine you being like in uniform on a plane at
Speaker 4: your day job three days later, because A you just
Speaker 4: went through a breakup and b you're like trying to
Speaker 4: adjust to being resummersed in like having your phone and
Speaker 4: like all these things.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, no, it went from you know, it was
Speaker 2: actually was.
Speaker 3: It wasn't after create from Crete, when I got like,
Speaker 3: a we went to Paris for a week, which was
Speaker 3: not complaining, that was awesome, and then had like a
Speaker 3: one week vacation there essentially until the rest of the
Speaker 3: show was done, and then we flew back and it
Speaker 3: was from there, so like I went from the show
Speaker 3: and then I like had this cool little mini vacation
Speaker 3: and then I get thrust back into like normal life asap,
Speaker 3: and yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 2: It was interesting.
Speaker 3: But then for The Bachelor, I had no more resources
Speaker 3: to get the days off, and so when they asked
Speaker 3: me to like no vacation, no personal drops or anything,
Speaker 3: and I remember, like I called my chief pilot at
Speaker 3: the time, and I was like, hey, any chances can work,
Speaker 3: and they're like, yeah, probably not, like this isn't gonna happen.
Speaker 3: And I like was like, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: find a way it's going to happen. I'm gonna make
Speaker 3: it work. And I called like all one hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty fos We're on the seven thirty seven based out
Speaker 3: of Lax the airplane that I was on, and like
Speaker 3: in reverse seniority order, called them all asking if they
Speaker 3: be willing to help pick up a trip if it
Speaker 3: fit in their schedule for the next month.
Speaker 2: And I found like three people.
Speaker 3: And I just called those three when I had trips
Speaker 3: to drop it, and then it ultimately ended up working out.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's crazy, Peter, Oh my god. So you were
Speaker 4: basically having people pick up like essentially shifts or like flights,
Speaker 4: like there might have been a situation where you're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: like I actually got to go back to LA like.
Speaker 3: No one picked up and I'm like film of the
Speaker 3: Bachelor here and I don't have the guaranteed days off
Speaker 3: and it's my job, which I'm always gonna put as
Speaker 3: my priority, Like if I didn't get it picked up,
Speaker 3: I was gonna have to leave the show, and I'm like, guys,
Speaker 3: we got to film this another time because I can't
Speaker 3: miss this.
Speaker 2: And before that the decision had gone all the way
Speaker 2: up to ed Bash.
Speaker 3: And the CEO at the time, they had two camps
Speaker 3: that were trying to get me just to leave the
Speaker 3: absence so I didn't have to worry about the stress
Speaker 3: of you know, dropping the trips and then the other
Speaker 3: camp saying you know, one camp saying yes, one camp
Speaker 3: saying no.
Speaker 2: Ultimately got to ed Bash and he was the one
Speaker 2: that said no.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, this is gonna be stressful, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it made it work.
Speaker 1: But could you have so I don't know how it
Speaker 1: works with being a pilot, but could you have just
Speaker 1: just like quit and then been like, okay, I'll just
Speaker 1: once the Bachelor areror is like, I can't see any
Speaker 1: airline not wanting to hire me.
Speaker 2: No, exactly the care they don't care.
Speaker 3: They actually probably more than not, like a super conservative
Speaker 3: airline would not want that kind of attention or no, no,
Speaker 3: And it doesn't work like that anyways. Everything's based like
Speaker 3: on a seniority and the airlines everything's the seniority based system,
Speaker 3: So it's the date of hire. When you go to
Speaker 3: your class date, that number is stamped and that follows
Speaker 3: you your whole career until you retire everything.
Speaker 1: Really, so it's not like quitting jumping to a different airline.
Speaker 3: You don't do That's okay, yeah, And like I mean, granted,
Speaker 3: I did do that because I want from Delta United,
Speaker 3: but I'm like, I'm not a lot of people do that.
Speaker 3: That's pretty rare, And the only reason I did was
Speaker 3: it was just more of a passion move, Like that
Speaker 3: was the love that I had for United since I
Speaker 3: was a little kid.
Speaker 2: That's why I wanted to fly there more than anything.
Speaker 3: And then fly with my dad, which was amazing. But yeah,
Speaker 3: so I was as we went, like I would just
Speaker 3: be on my iPad dropping trips getting you know, I
Speaker 3: would be able to make phone calls to some of
Speaker 3: the guys that were picking them up.
Speaker 4: But wow, that's crazy. Like the anxiety I feel for
Speaker 4: you right now is just nuts. Like I can't even
Speaker 4: imagine how the show was feeling, being like, well, this
Speaker 4: guy doesn't have any time off and we're just going
Speaker 4: to see how this goes. What did your work say
Speaker 4: when you got back and you were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: like the reason I've been having my show's covered for
Speaker 4: two months because I went on The Bachelor.
Speaker 2: It just kind of like so that all happened.
Speaker 3: We finished like November, I got my my seat, my
Speaker 3: conditional job off or for me United in January, so
Speaker 3: it was really only a couple months.
Speaker 2: I really didn't say anything because the show wasn't airing yet.
Speaker 3: So from November to December, you know, I hadn't aired yet,
Speaker 3: I just really never said anything. And then when I
Speaker 3: had my CJO, I remember almost, oh my god. I
Speaker 3: remember almost giving my two weeks notice adults at that point,
Speaker 3: and I thank god. My dad was like, you know what,
Speaker 3: just hold off and you know, just until you have
Speaker 3: everything for sure confirmed, and so I did, and then
Speaker 3: COVID hits and then the United job offer gets postponed
Speaker 3: for like a year. If I would have left Delta,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't been able to go back. So I lucked
Speaker 3: out that I did it that way. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: kind of just let everyone figure out. As the show
Speaker 3: came out and started airing and promoting, I didn't really
Speaker 3: like tell people.
Speaker 4: People still had to be like, how did you go
Speaker 4: film this show? Like did this happen?
Speaker 5: Yeah, all all the crews are very curious how I
Speaker 5: made it work. But yeah, honestly, that's it. That's a
Speaker 5: talent in itself. Like, no, that is truly you make
Speaker 5: things happen.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't recommend it. I don't.
Speaker 1: You should be a producer, that's what you should do.
Speaker 1: That's that should be your next your next producer, Pete.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dealing with everyone's job problems.
Speaker 1: Let's jump to uh, let's hump to Traders real quick,
Speaker 1: because you just you were on that show. If people
Speaker 1: don't know Traders competition show on Peacock, how how when
Speaker 1: did you get on the show? Like what was that process?
Speaker 2: Like? So I never thought I'd ever do reality TV.
Speaker 3: Again, I wasn't ever like closed off to it, but
Speaker 3: I just kind of thought that shit been like sailed,
Speaker 3: and I this was in a different chapter in my life.
Speaker 3: And then I remember, like a week before this is
Speaker 3: in September, like early mid September, I get a text
Speaker 3: from a you know, casting director, and they asked me
Speaker 3: if I'd be interested in it. And I had seen
Speaker 3: a little bit of season one with Ari, so I
Speaker 3: was like, wait, yeah, I know exactly what this is Yes, it.
Speaker 1: Looks first like watching it putting yourself on the show
Speaker 1: as a contestant, You're like, this looks like it would
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But then I was like, but I have to get
Speaker 3: time off from work, so let me give you a
Speaker 3: call back.
Speaker 2: The next like here we're going.
Speaker 3: So luckily it was a lot easier this time. Also,
Speaker 3: it was a lot shorter filming schedule. I think it
Speaker 3: was like three weeks, three and a half weeks total,
Speaker 3: But I got the okay, I was able to get
Speaker 3: you know, the time off, and I was able to
Speaker 3: move trips around. So then I said I called her
Speaker 3: back the next day. I was like, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 3: And then a week later we're already filming. So I
Speaker 3: think I was probably like a fill in or something
Speaker 3: like a last minute cancelation, because like literally a week
Speaker 3: from the call to first day of filming. But it
Speaker 3: was the coolest thing I've ever done, dude, I I
Speaker 3: literally was. I was like such like a little kid.
Speaker 3: It was like Christmas.
Speaker 2: Every night.
Speaker 3: It was so hard to fall asleep because I was
Speaker 3: so excited for the next day. And then I wake
Speaker 3: up and like go run out to like go see
Speaker 3: the presence of the tree. Like, I was so excited
Speaker 3: to play that game just because you never knew what
Speaker 3: was happening. You never knew what the missions were. I
Speaker 3: always thought these like shows, these crazy missions and like
Speaker 3: pushing yourself looked so fricking cool, and so I was like,
Speaker 3: I actually because I always wanted to do that on
Speaker 3: the baschroom, like the craziest stunts, like I never got
Speaker 3: to jump out of an airplane, and I was so bummed.
Speaker 3: I was like I wanted one of those dates and
Speaker 3: the traders. I knew that was going to be like
Speaker 3: every single day. So it was just pure excitement. And
Speaker 3: then you add in like the mental gymnastics the game,
Speaker 3: it was exhilarating.
Speaker 2: You just you felt like it was incredible.
Speaker 1: That's my So, I yeah, I just did a competition
Speaker 1: show that's probably airing right now if you're listening on
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime, called The Goat. But uh yeah, like the
Speaker 1: mental part of the game is so much fun. It's
Speaker 1: like to me, that's like it's it's just it's like
Speaker 1: be It's like an immersive board game, and you're just
Speaker 1: like this is this is you get lost in it
Speaker 1: and it is you do you go back to feeling
Speaker 1: like you're a child, Like I'm a kid playing a game.
Speaker 1: This is fun.
Speaker 3: There was a point I remember like I would I
Speaker 3: would be like when we break for a little bit
Speaker 3: or lunch or whatever, Like I was just wanting, like
Speaker 3: I didn't care about having normal conversation and I loved
Speaker 3: all the like the cast was great, Like I wanted
Speaker 3: to get away from the normal combos and just get
Speaker 3: back to gameplay. Whenever we weren't talking gameplay, That's all
Speaker 3: I could think about getting back to. And I was like,
Speaker 3: we'll get to know each other, Like fine, after all this,
Speaker 3: let's just like play. And I like, I got so
Speaker 3: wrapped up in it and so lost, but I loved
Speaker 3: every second of it.
Speaker 4: You're obsessed. Did you have a favorite challenge?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the first one, The first one we did, we
Speaker 3: like had we were in this like literally picture Harry
Speaker 3: Potter and like one of those where like the Quiddage
Speaker 3: stadiums are and like the mountains or like the lake
Speaker 3: outside of Hogwarts, and it was like one of those
Speaker 3: lakes they call them locks out there, and it looked
Speaker 3: like the Lockness Monster was one hundred percent swimming like
Speaker 3: in the depths of it like it just had that
Speaker 3: ominous feel. And then like the clouds are like low
Speaker 3: level over the mountains, and they had this huge like
Speaker 3: TV production set, Like obviously as a viewer you don't
Speaker 3: see it, but there's huge cranes and like tents and
Speaker 3: you know, all like security people and like seals like
Speaker 3: in like not navy seals, but like people like in
Speaker 3: the boats getting ready to rescue if they need if
Speaker 3: need be, and this huge production and then we get
Speaker 3: to go in like this frigid water and go like
Speaker 3: swim and gather all these pubble pieces like and row
Speaker 3: the boat and like there's flames going off like when
Speaker 3: we finished, it was just it was so cool is.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget that experience.
Speaker 3: And everyone still was part of it because no one
Speaker 3: had been kicked off yet, so the whole group was
Speaker 3: together and everyone was working together, and it was it
Speaker 3: was pretty special.
Speaker 1: So you as as a as a contestant player on
Speaker 1: the show, you you go pretty far, but it seemed
Speaker 1: you are like the first one that kind of like
Speaker 1: cracks the code of starting to pick up on who
Speaker 1: these traders are. Yeah, and it ends up I guess
Speaker 1: like it ends up being your demise at the end.
Speaker 1: But it was kind of like you either do do
Speaker 1: it the way you did it. I don't know, like
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm what I'm I'm asking this in
Speaker 1: a terrible way. But is there anything you feel like
Speaker 1: you could have done different.
Speaker 3: The only thing I could have done differently was postpone
Speaker 3: when I like went on the offensive, and once I did,
Speaker 3: I was like committed to that and I couldn't. I
Speaker 3: couldn't slow down, I couldn't back down. In fact, I
Speaker 3: thought my my protection and my safety wasn't being the
Speaker 3: more aggressive I was the better, the more you know,
Speaker 3: outspoken I was about calling people out. That was my
Speaker 3: protection because if I'm putting all this heat on people,
Speaker 3: and if I'm right, if I'm putting all this heat
Speaker 3: on people that are actually the traders, and then they quickly,
Speaker 3: you know, knock me out and get rid of me
Speaker 3: the very next day, that's kind of given up their game.
Speaker 3: And so now that that was my protection, and then
Speaker 3: they can't be so obvious to get rid of me
Speaker 3: right away.
Speaker 2: If I'm loud and I'm consistently on them.
Speaker 3: The second I kind of drop off, now I'm probably
Speaker 3: gonna get poached, and people aren't going to notice it
Speaker 3: as much, so I think once I committed to that,
Speaker 3: But again I kind of was forced into that just
Speaker 3: by the nature of like I remember we did that
Speaker 3: move with the Burgie shield block, and you know, had
Speaker 3: like this lie going on to try to infiltrate and
Speaker 3: kind of see if that would make it back to
Speaker 3: the traders and they would get on board with it
Speaker 3: too and believe it. So because it was such a
Speaker 3: public move, I was already I was locked in. Once
Speaker 3: that was successful, I was like, all right, I've made
Speaker 3: my bed and game on, let's see how far we
Speaker 3: can take this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was It's like one of those situations where
Speaker 1: it's like damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Speaker 1: You were damn if you do, damn if you don't.
Speaker 1: But you were kind of like in that situation where
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, you didn't really like any way
Speaker 1: you played it. You were kind of fucked. But it
Speaker 1: was kind of like I just got to go one
Speaker 1: hundred percent at this because it could work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also, like to speakable, honest, I just like
Speaker 3: it was so much more fun to be aggressive in
Speaker 3: the game than kind of like sit back, like I
Speaker 3: don't know, if I could have done that, I would
Speaker 3: have just been like chomping at the bit too much.
Speaker 4: Who were you like close with or are you close
Speaker 4: still close with anyone from the show?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, we actually was cool.
Speaker 3: We got pretty much the whole not the whole cast,
Speaker 3: but like I just had dinner and went to h
Speaker 3: see Great Gass with Peppermint the other night. She lives
Speaker 3: out in the city. Actually, you guys, you guys should
Speaker 3: meet her. She's she's in the she's in Manhattan as well.
Speaker 3: I see trachelle a lot Bergie bananas out in La
Speaker 3: John Dan Faedra, I got to Padra and Poverty. We
Speaker 3: got to do a bunch of cool like press after
Speaker 3: and like fromos stuff, So we got to spend some
Speaker 3: time together.
Speaker 2: At and Sue.
Speaker 4: Yeah your mom too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Were you surprised when they asked you about that at
Speaker 4: the reunion, because like you guys seemed surprised when they
Speaker 4: were like, oh, you know, Barb just posted what that
Speaker 4: can Sue, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You kind of expected yet.
Speaker 2: I was kind of expected. Honestly. It was.
Speaker 3: It was so harmless, Like I, you know, Eckens obviously
Speaker 3: in London, so she had come out a couple of
Speaker 3: days before everyone else did out to LA for the reunion,
Speaker 3: and my mom knew knew she was out there, so
Speaker 3: you know her, Christine, my sister in law, and Ekon
Speaker 3: went out to lunch.
Speaker 2: But it was just harmless.
Speaker 3: They I just connected them because I was close to
Speaker 3: that end and that everything blows up and you know,
Speaker 3: everyone starts having all these opinions and guesses about everything
Speaker 3: and nothing really was going on. We're just really good friends.
Speaker 1: So it's crazy because it's like when you're like when
Speaker 1: you go on a dating show, especially like The Bachelor,
Speaker 1: and you are you become the lead, It's like then
Speaker 1: anything you post with the opposite sex, everyone's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like another pretty like they must be dating.
Speaker 3: They must be dating, Like there are four months into it,
Speaker 3: like an engagements come or something like I yeahing Pete.
Speaker 1: If you could do any if you could, like, if
Speaker 1: you had your choice at the next competition, reality show
Speaker 1: or any reality show, what would you choose?
Speaker 2: Special Forces one?
Speaker 3: I want to do that so bad, just obviously the
Speaker 3: the ability to have to, like so I want I
Speaker 3: wanted to go to the Air Force Academy right when
Speaker 3: I was out of high school, that was my initial dream,
Speaker 3: wanted to go be a fighter pilot, and a part
Speaker 3: of that was the op to go push myself and
Speaker 3: really see like what I was made of. And I
Speaker 3: remember looking forward to that, like going to the initial
Speaker 3: freshman year boot camp and all that. Long story short
Speaker 3: didn't get in directly, so I ended up going to
Speaker 3: different course in life. But I feel like this is
Speaker 3: like one of the closest things to experiencing that, and
Speaker 3: obviously just the competitive side of me would love it.
Speaker 2: It's funny. I feel like Bachrior Nation owns that show
Speaker 2: because they keep winning it. They've won both.
Speaker 4: Seasons, right, so, Fascer Nation has done pretty well across
Speaker 4: the board on other reality shows. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 4: like you and Ari both did really well on Traders,
Speaker 4: and then like everyone that's been on Special.
Speaker 1: Forces and then Nick and Tyler all finished, all crushed.
Speaker 2: How'd you do on the goat there?
Speaker 1: Joe, you got to stay.
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm feeling pretty confident. What would you do?
Speaker 4: What would I do? I don't know. I haven't really
Speaker 4: given a lot of thought to going back on reality.
Speaker 4: I was pretty like not interested in going back on
Speaker 4: any reality show until Joe did the go and I
Speaker 4: just think hearing like how much Traders would do Traders,
Speaker 4: I would do Traders, Yeah, and just seeing you do it,
Speaker 4: and like hearing how great an experience you had, Like
Speaker 4: I don't know, Bachelor is a very intense filming process,
Speaker 4: and I did two seasons back to back, and I'm
Speaker 4: engaged now, so like that's all great. Sorry for second,
Speaker 4: we're married.
Speaker 1: I am going on naked and afraid.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I would do Traders. I don't know if
Speaker 4: I would do Survivor. I like the Cold, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'd be curious to see if I
Speaker 4: would be able to. I lose weight very easily, and
Speaker 4: I would be worried about I think it would be
Speaker 4: like detrimental to my health in a lot of different ways,
Speaker 4: like more like a like The Go honestly looked amazing,
Speaker 4: Like I feel like I would totally do that. But yeah,
Speaker 4: some like I like the like more like Camp fun
Speaker 4: reality competition shows like I think are great examples. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think Special Forces is a little intimidating
Speaker 4: to I want to do.
Speaker 1: Special Forces too. I'm with that, like I do yeah,
Speaker 1: like I really do, like I I I really want
Speaker 1: to be able to challenge myself like physically like that,
Speaker 1: like even just the goat is definitely it was. The
Speaker 1: the social aspect of it is very challenging and that's
Speaker 1: what I found to be the most fun. But but physically,
Speaker 1: you know, the games are more like campy, silly silly,
Speaker 1: like Carnival esque.
Speaker 4: I know what I would love though, for Bachelor to do,
Speaker 4: and I don't know if they would ever do this
Speaker 4: is like do like uh like a broad like a
Speaker 4: summer house style show where it's like just a bunch
Speaker 4: of us get to like go live in a house
Speaker 4: for the summer and like party and just like film
Speaker 4: as we go. I just feel like that would be.
Speaker 1: I feel like they did. I feel like they they
Speaker 1: should just pay for us party for the summer. I
Speaker 1: mean like.
Speaker 4: It'd be fun to get to now having like done
Speaker 4: two shows and like with other people from the franchise
Speaker 4: that have also like we've all done reality before, we
Speaker 4: all have kind of like comment.
Speaker 2: Like a paradise but just like Hampton's.
Speaker 4: Yes, like an alumni paradise, but like we're like not
Speaker 4: necessarily with as much focus on dating, just like hanging out.
Speaker 3: I like that idea, like not having a focus on
Speaker 3: dat and just kind of being friends with each other
Speaker 3: and hanging out.
Speaker 4: That would be like a what do they call it,
Speaker 4: a docu follow they.
Speaker 1: Called a vacation. They called a vacation with Freds. It's
Speaker 1: what you're pay for.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's too much.
Speaker 2: Let's do it, Pete.
Speaker 1: Anything, what else you got going on? Anything you want
Speaker 1: to share, any new things coming up? Dating life, what's
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 3: To be completely honest, Like, right my everything's kind of
Speaker 3: slowed down a little bit for me, which I'm very
Speaker 3: very happy about because I've been on the go non stop,
Speaker 3: just kind of like from Traders until I was doing
Speaker 3: a ton of travel. I was doing Thailand, ton of cruises,
Speaker 3: just you know, a bunch of events around the country.
Speaker 3: Right now, it's kind of like slowing down a little bit,
Speaker 3: which I kind of need.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I haven't been flying too much right now, unfortunately, just
Speaker 3: because everything going on right now with you know a
Speaker 3: lot of out and you know, one of my big
Speaker 3: routes is Tel Aviv, so we're not going there right now.
Speaker 3: So flying has been a little bit slower, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's been giving me some time to kind of just
Speaker 3: hang out and do some kind of more events, you know,
Speaker 3: in the whole in this space with everything that was cool.
Speaker 3: Senior at F one, that was a blast. But honestly, yeah,
Speaker 3: nothing like crazy on the horizon, which I feel like
Speaker 3: I need because I've been going, going, going without stopping
Speaker 3: for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: What kind of data are you like? Are you like
Speaker 4: an apps dude? Are you like out of the bars
Speaker 4: picking up girls? Are you like three dates a week? Like?
Speaker 4: What is your single boy life style?
Speaker 2: Three dates a week? I don't. I could not do that.
Speaker 3: I was on the apps for a little bit. I'm
Speaker 3: not really I'm not on them any more. I had
Speaker 3: some success with that. It was, you know, nothing crazy,
Speaker 3: but definitely had some you know, I met some great
Speaker 3: women from it and had you know, some good dates.
Speaker 3: To be honest, I'm really not into like I feel
Speaker 3: like for the first year year and a half in
Speaker 3: New York, I was like in the bar scene and
Speaker 3: it was cool and I enjoyed it. I've kind of
Speaker 3: like seen myself like segue out of that. That's not
Speaker 3: really like my spot anymore. It doesn't really do it
Speaker 3: for me. I'd rather just like hang out with maybe
Speaker 3: like on the rooftop and like have have a drink
Speaker 3: up there and listen to some good music. Like I'm
Speaker 3: kind of getting over that scene, but not definitely not
Speaker 3: three dates a week, maybe like one day to a week,
Speaker 3: and I like to do fun dates like in the city.
Speaker 3: I like to you know, take advantage, you know, go
Speaker 3: ride a bike around Central Park and go like lay
Speaker 3: out a blanket or something, or down the West side
Speaker 3: have it like. This is such a cool city to
Speaker 3: date in, so there's no shortage of ideas like museums, yes, activity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, city doing over.
Speaker 3: I mean, dinner is cool too, but I love taking
Speaker 3: it like Tomedy show, that's a great dat.
Speaker 2: There's just yeah, Chelsea Piers, so many options. Nice.
Speaker 1: All right, Well this has been fun, Pete. Well we'll
Speaker 1: let you go. Uh we're gonna be gone this weekend,
Speaker 1: but we'll be back next week. So yeah, we'll go
Speaker 1: do something. Yeah, Pete, thank you so much for coming
Speaker 1: on Badger Happy Hour, and thank you for Thank you
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