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Speaker 3: The second date of date when you get ghosted after
Speaker 3: a first date, is it hurtful?
Speaker 1: No, if you don't have to tell yourself it doesn't
Speaker 1: hurt it does I mean?
Speaker 3: Good news? Is it starts to hurt less and less
Speaker 3: the more it happens to you. Yeah, that numbness is
Speaker 3: kind of nice feeling, but not a feeling.
Speaker 2: That's the whole point of the enough exactly.
Speaker 3: Now we're on the same page. But our listener, Claire
Speaker 3: believes there's something more behind why her date isn't reaching
Speaker 3: out to her and she's come to us asking for assistance. So, Claire,
Speaker 3: why is Brooke laughing at you? I don't know.
Speaker 1: She is like totally insulted by your intro here, Like,
Speaker 1: have you been ghosted that many times?
Speaker 2: Claire?
Speaker 6: No, I'm just super worried about him.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh wow, why do you say that?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 6: Okay, first of all, his name is Jane and a
Speaker 6: guy that what goes with me? Like, but he has
Speaker 6: not responded to me at all in like three days.
Speaker 1: Is he someone that you already knew before you went
Speaker 1: on a date, Because.
Speaker 3: The way that you're talking, it sounds like you've known
Speaker 3: him for a while. He would never do that to me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I haven't, but he just gave off that vibe.
Speaker 4: You guys hit it off, back and forth, back and forth,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, nothing is weird.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, Vibes can lie, you know, liars
Speaker 2: those vibes.
Speaker 4: People can also lie, not.
Speaker 5: Liars, those vibes real close.
Speaker 3: Yeah, es are Yeah.
Speaker 2: I always trust him.
Speaker 3: You're genuinely worried about him.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, it's just that he works a lot,
Speaker 6: you know, and he has like a really stressful work environment.
Speaker 6: He has a really important sales job, and he's like
Speaker 6: working all the time.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that would make sense that he wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to contact you for three days.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So how many dates have you had with him, because
Speaker 3: it sounds like you've had a few.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean we willn't of date like ten
Speaker 6: days ago, but we were texting after that, trying to
Speaker 6: plan something else, and then he just stopped responding.
Speaker 3: Okay, So three days ago he stopped responding to your
Speaker 3: text and that's why you're worried. Okay, got it. So
Speaker 3: let's go back to the day. What did you guys
Speaker 3: do for it?
Speaker 6: Okay? So first of all, we went bowling and then
Speaker 6: we went to this place and it's like an indoor
Speaker 6: butterfly house type of thing where the butterflies like land
Speaker 6: on you.
Speaker 3: Kind of scary.
Speaker 4: I remember one time as a kind of giant butterfly.
Speaker 2: I mean I thought it was gonna do you really
Speaker 2: got to watch where he stepped to. Oh no, ground
Speaker 2: got you down at all times.
Speaker 3: It's like that one was still a counterpillar broke his
Speaker 3: Bama from Okay.
Speaker 6: It was such a fun idea. And he's normally like
Speaker 6: very just considerate. I just thought it was so nice.
Speaker 2: He keeps saying, normally you've had one experience.
Speaker 3: But you're talking like you've known him for a really
Speaker 3: really long time.
Speaker 6: Well, I feel like I have, because he's like a
Speaker 6: special person to me.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you haven't dated for a while, then, have you?
Speaker 6: I mean not really, I guess. But he just we
Speaker 6: just clicked. I mean, we just bob. We just everything
Speaker 6: was just great with us.
Speaker 1: Tell us any moments where it felt reciprocal, like he
Speaker 1: was also on the same page as you.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, okay, So we were bowling and like he
Speaker 6: picked up my bowling ball and I thought it was
Speaker 6: bound the stake, but it really wasn't. And he tried
Speaker 6: to bowl with my ball, had like take it from him,
Speaker 6: and we just laughed about it and we thought it
Speaker 6: was the funniest thing ever.
Speaker 3: That is one out lighter, silly.
Speaker 6: Like we were connecting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's strange that you'd grab it from his hands,
Speaker 1: but I like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I mean it's cute to them. It's cute, right, ye,
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 6: So it was my ball.
Speaker 2: That was just a flirty moment that you two had.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 3: Nice drinks some food involved in the date.
Speaker 6: I mean we weren't that hungry, so we just split
Speaker 6: some fries and a beer.
Speaker 3: Okay. Were there any butterfly kisses inside of the butterfly
Speaker 3: Exhibit C Yeah, it feels like the right place to do.
Speaker 6: There were no kisses, but if he would have tried it,
Speaker 6: I would have been very very open to it, and
Speaker 6: my lashes would have been like butterflies as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, flood flutter.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is, but she would go
Speaker 3: there in the butterfly world. That's second, okay.
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like you left that date feeling
Speaker 1: sure you'd see him again.
Speaker 6: Absolutely. I mean we were even texting back and forth
Speaker 6: making future plans and then he just came up with this,
Speaker 6: I gotta find some free time because I'm working right
Speaker 6: now now and things are busy. And then he start
Speaker 6: responding like three days ago.
Speaker 3: What if we find out after we call him that
Speaker 3: he actually blew you off on purpose and he's just
Speaker 3: trying to be nice about it.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't do that, that's the way you are so positive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you haven't listened to our show enough.
Speaker 6: I mean, well, my friend did recommend you.
Speaker 7: I don't listen normally.
Speaker 2: But that's why there's so much hope.
Speaker 3: Got it? So you said three days ago he suddenly
Speaker 3: cut off communication with you, and you're just trying to
Speaker 3: figure out what's going on.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just worried because something could have happened.
Speaker 6: So I'm thinking maybe if you guys call him, we
Speaker 6: can get this whole thing, put it out.
Speaker 3: Are we going to destroy it?
Speaker 1: I feel like we're going to ruin the last optimistic
Speaker 1: person that's left in the dating world right now.
Speaker 3: You know, But remember what I said about numbness in
Speaker 3: the beginning. You can start that process right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, So I have hope for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's stuck in an elevator.
Speaker 2: I'm sure of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, we'll get the laughing gas ready just in
Speaker 3: case when we call James for you and try and
Speaker 3: get you your second date update right after this. Thanks guy,
Speaker 3: second date update if you're just joining us. We've been
Speaker 3: talking to Claire, who had the three bees on her
Speaker 3: first date, bowling beer and butterflies.
Speaker 4: Together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and not just the nervous tummy butterflies either, actual
Speaker 3: real ones flying around inside of a butterfly house.
Speaker 1: It's kind of cute.
Speaker 3: It is definitely different than what we've had before. But
Speaker 3: she's come to us very concerned because three days ago
Speaker 3: her guy James fully stopped responding.
Speaker 1: I feel like this whole episode is brought to you
Speaker 1: by the number three right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, lots of threes. And it was weird because they
Speaker 3: were in the middle of planning their next meetup.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it sounds like he wasn't giving her
Speaker 1: exact dates in time.
Speaker 3: Claire, Brook's calling you a liar.
Speaker 1: No, no, that she may have misinterpreted his text like
Speaker 1: he was saying I'm busy, I'm busy and busy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she did say that she was new at dating,
Speaker 3: so maybe she doesn't know how to navigate this situation
Speaker 3: quite the right way, and she.
Speaker 2: Doesn't listen her incompetent now, Jeffrey.
Speaker 3: Yes, I am. I'm just kidding, Claire. But we're going
Speaker 3: to reach out to James because you said he's not
Speaker 3: answering when you call. You think maybe he'll pick up
Speaker 3: for us.
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful, Okay, you are very hopeful.
Speaker 1: She is. She is, and she's concerned about his safety
Speaker 1: and thinks something could have happened, like.
Speaker 6: I think something probably did, because there's no way that
Speaker 6: he wouldn't reach out to me.
Speaker 1: Really, sometimes I wish we could do these in person,
Speaker 1: so we could hug each other afterwards, make each other
Speaker 1: feel better, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why'd you make eye contact with me when you
Speaker 3: said that I wasn't talk about hugging you happiness in person? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: Well I'll give you Brooks home address after this is over,
Speaker 3: so you can go over there and hug it out
Speaker 3: all you want. Anyway, Let's let's call James right now.
Speaker 3: Hopefully he answers. We can get to the bottom of this,
Speaker 3: figure out why three days ago he fully cut off
Speaker 3: communication with you.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Sure it'll be a happy story here.
Speaker 7: Hello, this is James very formal.
Speaker 3: Wow, hi James, you're on the radio, right.
Speaker 7: Radio.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a radio show called Brook and Jeffrey in
Speaker 3: the Morning.
Speaker 7: Good morning, good morning. How can I help you out there?
Speaker 3: We're really happy to hear your voice and that you're doing. Okay,
Speaker 3: it sounds well sure.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He could be in the hospital right now for all
Speaker 2: we know.
Speaker 3: The fact that picked up though, that's a really good start.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry what it was about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a it's a segment we do on
Speaker 3: our show. It's called the Second Date Update.
Speaker 2: You're kind of like the star of it today.
Speaker 7: Okay, that doesn't too great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a bad thing. It just means somebody
Speaker 3: out there is trying to see you again and they
Speaker 3: haven't been able to get a hold of you.
Speaker 7: You don't see the name that I think that you're
Speaker 7: about to say.
Speaker 2: Wait, there's a certain name.
Speaker 3: What name are you thinking?
Speaker 7: Claire?
Speaker 3: That's her?
Speaker 7: What is she doing?
Speaker 8: Oh my goodness, she's just trying to get a hold
Speaker 8: of you, because she said, basically that you two had
Speaker 8: an awesome date together where you went bowling and you
Speaker 8: visited a butterfly house, and she was telling us how
Speaker 8: fun and how thoughtful it was that you came up with.
Speaker 7: That for her.
Speaker 3: Oh, she had a lot of positive things to say
Speaker 3: about you.
Speaker 7: Oh really, did she happen to tell you anything else?
Speaker 7: Like what happened after?
Speaker 1: I mean she told us that you guys were texting
Speaker 1: trying to figure out a date to get back together?
Speaker 7: Right? No, No, it wasn't the texting it honestly, it
Speaker 7: was about the forcefulness in the meetups.
Speaker 3: What stay forceful?
Speaker 1: But meetups? You only had one meetup? You just saw
Speaker 1: each other on one date.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, but I'm a very busy guy. I
Speaker 7: do a lot of different things for work.
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, she was a little bit over eager. It
Speaker 3: sounds like to see you again.
Speaker 7: I think that's an understatement. I mean, if I couldn't
Speaker 7: hang out Tuesday, she would see what about Wednesday? What
Speaker 7: about Thursday? What about Friday? It just became way too
Speaker 7: much for me, And then she she just crossed the line.
Speaker 2: Okay, is that the line?
Speaker 3: What line? Did she cross?
Speaker 2: The Wednesday? Thursday? Friday?
Speaker 1: Line?
Speaker 3: Is that the line suggesting other day?
Speaker 7: No? No, it was worse.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I think she is totally clueless that she
Speaker 1: made you feel uncomfortable or whatever it is.
Speaker 7: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why are you so sure that she should know
Speaker 3: she made a.
Speaker 7: Mistake because she called my work?
Speaker 2: What what your job?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, I was at work and HR called me
Speaker 7: and a woman named Claire reached out and wanted to
Speaker 7: do a welfare check on me.
Speaker 6: What whoa?
Speaker 3: I know?
Speaker 7: Yes, at work and she's telling her that we need
Speaker 7: to move my schedule around and workload around. Like, what's
Speaker 7: going on with that?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 4: I think we all understand.
Speaker 3: Now, listen, maybe Claire is being misunderstood here and your
Speaker 3: manager has relayed her message in a way that painted
Speaker 3: her in a bad light. Oh that's h And maybe
Speaker 3: you are working too hard and it's not a terrible
Speaker 3: thing if your date wants you to be less stressed. Jeff,
Speaker 3: you are a champion of our listeners, And I just
Speaker 3: I think I think you should talk to Claire about
Speaker 3: it because she is on the phone with us right
Speaker 3: now wanting to speak to you.
Speaker 1: Oh my, why isn't it better to speak to her
Speaker 1: instead of speaking through your HR to her?
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more. But but she has
Speaker 3: talked to Claire.
Speaker 7: Claire, Claire, what are you doing.
Speaker 6: Okay, if Karen is a crown and I'm guilty, I
Speaker 6: just care about you. We went on one date, yeah,
Speaker 6: one special date.
Speaker 2: Clar Why would you call his h R.
Speaker 6: I mean, no other girlfriend would do that for a guy.
Speaker 7: Girlfriend it you're not my girlfriend. We hung out once.
Speaker 7: What are you talking about?
Speaker 6: Not yet, but I'm just showing that I want to
Speaker 6: spend more time with you.
Speaker 7: I mean what I mean, what are we What are
Speaker 7: we really doing here? I could meet with my HR department.
Speaker 7: I had to meet with my boss. You're messing with
Speaker 7: my job. You're messing with my way of living. Like
Speaker 7: you don't even know what I do. You don't even
Speaker 7: know exactly what I'm doing at work.
Speaker 6: Well, listen, here's what I do now. I know you
Speaker 6: work in sales, and I know you were stressed out,
Speaker 6: so I was just trying to help.
Speaker 3: You with that and defense the reason that I mean,
Speaker 3: according to her, you kept saying you couldn't meet up
Speaker 3: because you were too busy with work. So she's trying
Speaker 3: to problem number one.
Speaker 5: Of not hanging out with.
Speaker 3: Well, she's not buying it.
Speaker 1: That is a huge boundary to cross. You just never
Speaker 1: call someone's workplace. It's just you don't. I mean, I
Speaker 1: honestly feel like it has to be said for Claire
Speaker 1: to understand that, Oh.
Speaker 6: Yes I can, and yes I did.
Speaker 3: Don't call the workplace, just call directly to their family. Now,
Speaker 3: where is the right thing to do?
Speaker 6: I mean, I want to call his family, but I
Speaker 6: didn't have their numbers.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, this is easy to fix. James. What's your
Speaker 3: family's phone number?
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, you guys, I don't know what's going on here,
Speaker 7: but this is the first time that I've ever gone
Speaker 7: on a date where whoever I went on a date
Speaker 7: with to try to free up my schedule just to
Speaker 7: see them.
Speaker 2: You're lucky she didn't quit for you.
Speaker 4: It is funny to be like, oh, I'm busy, and
Speaker 4: she's like, oh, I'll take care of that.
Speaker 3: Oh god, busy anymore? Well, okay, I see them the
Speaker 3: good intentions in your heart when you did it. But
Speaker 3: for James, you cross the line.
Speaker 2: I think for anyone that's the thing.
Speaker 3: Anyone don't, but specifically for James in this cell.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, okay, Well, now that we're past that, we
Speaker 6: should do pizza and butterfly for on our feet.
Speaker 1: Pizza butter Going back to butterfly, butterfly, the butterfly kisses.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jackie were the idea.
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't ruin the idea. I mean, I think the
Speaker 6: butterfly chriss are is a great idea.
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, but James, pretend you didn't hear that. Okay,
Speaker 3: blank that out of your memory. All I want you
Speaker 3: to focus on is will you go out on another
Speaker 3: date with Claire and we would pay for it.
Speaker 1: We're talking to James now, yes, okay, yeah, pizza and
Speaker 1: she will on your Claire. I think you need to
Speaker 1: hear this response. Okay, so make sure you're paying attention.
Speaker 6: My ears though all the way open.
Speaker 3: Oh my, okay, So, James, what do you think about
Speaker 3: giving Claire one more chance?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you didn't have to laugh though. That
Speaker 3: was the only time.
Speaker 6: Well that was rude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was calling his workplace.
Speaker 3: Okay. I understand this is when someone's new to dating.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of new rules and stuff you gotta learn.
Speaker 3: So maybe this is a learning moment for you.
Speaker 6: I've learned that people don't understand what Karen is these days,
Speaker 6: and I just have to care harder.
Speaker 2: No, no, that is the opposite, care less.
Speaker 7: Please listen to them, care less about me, Karen, less
Speaker 7: about other people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the message that we are going to
Speaker 3: leave today, broken Jeffrey in the morning, care less about everyone.
Speaker 6: Brooking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, the positive that we can take out
Speaker 3: of this is what is. I really don't think we
Speaker 3: deterred her at all. She still sounds very hopeful, and
Speaker 3: by hopeful, I mean hopefully she's not already inside his
Speaker 3: apartment making it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, like she needed some reality here.
Speaker 4: She really was like the perfect data for our show.
Speaker 4: She had no idea, she never listened to the show.
Speaker 4: She's still optimism about dating. I mean she got blindsided here, Yeah.
Speaker 2: She got blindsided and she called this work. What are
Speaker 2: you talking about?
Speaker 3: She didn't know that was bad. To do him a
Speaker 3: favor and take the stress away.
Speaker 1: She did not see this coming, Brooke, don't ever call
Speaker 1: anyone's place of employment soever.
Speaker 5: No, I feel like we're gonna hear from her again.
Speaker 5: She's not going to be your first ghosting.
Speaker 3: And I think we're all just jealous of her relentless
Speaker 3: optimism because that's exactly what you need to survive this
Speaker 3: dating world. So I predict she'll be fine and If
Speaker 3: you need some optimism that your dating life isn't completely tragic,
Speaker 3: go to our podcast.
Speaker 2: You're Gonna say, call somebody else. Yeah, Listen to.
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