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Speaker 1: Okay, it's our favorite day of the year, and that

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, thank you, thank you, Thank you to.

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Speaker 1: Everyone who's tagging us on social media. African Jeffrey and sharing, yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's around eighty one thousand minutes with you guys, and

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Speaker 3: I hope it's more next year.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's more time than I spent with myself.

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Speaker 5: That's like four more times of the amount of music

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Speaker 3: Yeah cool, Eric, you are literally paying our salary. Yes,

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Speaker 5: Into Apple users, sorry, Apple Podcast. I know you don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you all make up your number and texting yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: please and keep tagging us. It's at Brick and Jeffrey.

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Speaker 1: We love you so much. We've got a brand.

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Speaker 2: New what are we doing right now? Second eight? Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the name of this podcast, so let's do it.

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Speaker 6: It's brand new. It's right now.

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Speaker 3: The second date of date when you get ghosted after

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Speaker 1: No, if you don't have to tell yourself it doesn't

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Speaker 1: hurt it does I mean?

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Speaker 3: Good news? Is it starts to hurt less and less

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Speaker 2: That's the whole point of the enough exactly.

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Speaker 3: Now we're on the same page. But our listener, Claire

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Speaker 3: believes there's something more behind why her date isn't reaching

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Speaker 3: out to her and she's come to us asking for assistance. So, Claire,

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Speaker 3: why is Brooke laughing at you? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: She is like totally insulted by your intro here, Like,

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Speaker 6: No, I'm just super worried about him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, oh wow, why do you say that?

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Speaker 6: Okay, first of all, his name is Jane and a

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Speaker 1: Is he someone that you already knew before you went

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Speaker 3: The way that you're talking, it sounds like you've known

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I haven't, but he just gave off that vibe.

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Speaker 4: You guys hit it off, back and forth, back and forth,

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Speaker 5: Liars, those vibes real close.

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Speaker 3: You're genuinely worried about him.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, it's just that he works a lot,

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Speaker 6: Okay? So first of all, we went bowling and then

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, okay, So we were bowling and like he

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Speaker 3: Okay. Were there any butterfly kisses inside of the butterfly

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that is, but she would go

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Speaker 6: Absolutely. I mean we were even texting back and forth

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Speaker 3: What if we find out after we call him that

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't do that, that's the way you are so positive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you haven't listened to our show enough.

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Speaker 6: I mean, well, my friend did recommend you.

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Speaker 7: I don't listen normally.

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Speaker 2: But that's why there's so much hope.

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Speaker 3: Got it? So you said three days ago he suddenly

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just worried because something could have happened.

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Speaker 6: So I'm thinking maybe if you guys call him, we

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Speaker 3: Are we going to destroy it?

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're going to ruin the last optimistic

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Speaker 3: You know, But remember what I said about numbness in

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Speaker 3: the beginning. You can start that process right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, So I have hope for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's stuck in an elevator.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, we'll get the laughing gas ready just in

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Speaker 3: second date update if you're just joining us. We've been

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Speaker 3: talking to Claire, who had the three bees on her

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Speaker 4: Together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and not just the nervous tummy butterflies either, actual

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Speaker 1: It's kind of cute.

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Speaker 3: It is definitely different than what we've had before. But

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Speaker 1: I feel like this whole episode is brought to you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, lots of threes. And it was weird because they

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it sounds like he wasn't giving her

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Speaker 3: Claire, Brook's calling you a liar.

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Speaker 1: No, no, that she may have misinterpreted his text like

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Speaker 1: he was saying I'm busy, I'm busy and busy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she did say that she was new at dating,

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Speaker 2: Doesn't listen her incompetent now, Jeffrey.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I am. I'm just kidding, Claire. But we're going

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Speaker 3: to reach out to James because you said he's not

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Speaker 2: I'm hopeful, Okay, you are very hopeful.

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Speaker 1: She is. She is, and she's concerned about his safety

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Speaker 6: I think something probably did, because there's no way that

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Speaker 1: Really, sometimes I wish we could do these in person,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why'd you make eye contact with me when you

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Speaker 3: Well I'll give you Brooks home address after this is over,

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Sure it'll be a happy story here.

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Speaker 7: Hello, this is James very formal.

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Speaker 3: Wow, hi James, you're on the radio, right.

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Speaker 7: Radio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a radio show called Brook and Jeffrey in

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Speaker 3: the Morning.

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Speaker 7: Good morning, good morning. How can I help you out there?

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Speaker 3: We're really happy to hear your voice and that you're doing. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it sounds well sure.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He could be in the hospital right now for all

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Speaker 3: The fact that picked up though, that's a really good start.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry what it was about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a it's a segment we do on

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Speaker 3: our show. It's called the Second Date Update.

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Speaker 2: You're kind of like the star of it today.

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Speaker 7: Okay, that doesn't too great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a bad thing. It just means somebody

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Speaker 7: You don't see the name that I think that you're

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Speaker 2: Wait, there's a certain name.

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Speaker 8: Oh my goodness, she's just trying to get a hold

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Speaker 7: That for her.

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Speaker 3: Oh, she had a lot of positive things to say

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Speaker 1: I mean she told us that you guys were texting

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Speaker 7: Right? No, No, it wasn't the texting it honestly, it

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Speaker 3: What stay forceful?

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Speaker 1: But meetups? You only had one meetup? You just saw

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, but I'm a very busy guy. I

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Speaker 7: I think that's an understatement. I mean, if I couldn't

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Speaker 2: Okay, is that the line?

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Speaker 3: What line? Did she cross?

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Speaker 7: No? No, it was worse.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I think she is totally clueless that she

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Speaker 7: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why are you so sure that she should know

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Speaker 7: Mistake because she called my work?

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Speaker 2: What what your job?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, I was at work and HR called me

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Speaker 6: What whoa?

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Speaker 3: I know?

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Speaker 7: Yes, at work and she's telling her that we need

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 4: I think we all understand.

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Speaker 3: Now, listen, maybe Claire is being misunderstood here and your

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Speaker 3: thing if your date wants you to be less stressed. Jeff,

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Speaker 3: I think I think you should talk to Claire about

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Speaker 1: Oh my, why isn't it better to speak to her

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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more. But but she has

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Speaker 7: Claire, Claire, what are you doing.

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Speaker 6: Okay, if Karen is a crown and I'm guilty, I

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Speaker 6: I mean, no other girlfriend would do that for a guy.

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Speaker 7: Girlfriend it you're not my girlfriend. We hung out once.

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Speaker 7: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 6: Not yet, but I'm just showing that I want to

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Speaker 7: I mean what I mean, what are we What are

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Speaker 7: we really doing here? I could meet with my HR department.

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Speaker 7: I had to meet with my boss. You're messing with

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Speaker 7: you don't even know what I do. You don't even

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Speaker 6: Well, listen, here's what I do now. I know you

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Speaker 3: You with that and defense the reason that I mean,

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Speaker 3: according to her, you kept saying you couldn't meet up

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Speaker 5: Of not hanging out with.

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Speaker 3: Well, she's not buying it.

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Speaker 1: That is a huge boundary to cross. You just never

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Speaker 6: Yes I can, and yes I did.

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Speaker 3: Don't call the workplace, just call directly to their family. Now,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I want to call his family, but I

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, this is easy to fix. James. What's your

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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, you guys, I don't know what's going on here,

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Speaker 7: but this is the first time that I've ever gone

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Speaker 2: You're lucky she didn't quit for you.

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Speaker 4: It is funny to be like, oh, I'm busy, and

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Speaker 3: Oh god, busy anymore? Well, okay, I see them the

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Speaker 3: good intentions in your heart when you did it. But

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Speaker 2: I think for anyone that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Anyone don't, but specifically for James in this cell.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, okay, Well, now that we're past that, we

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Speaker 1: Pizza butter Going back to butterfly, butterfly, the butterfly kisses.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jackie were the idea.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, don't ruin the idea. I mean, I think the

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Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, but James, pretend you didn't hear that. Okay,

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Speaker 3: blank that out of your memory. All I want you

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Speaker 1: We're talking to James now, yes, okay, yeah, pizza and

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Speaker 6: My ears though all the way open.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, okay, So, James, what do you think about

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you didn't have to laugh though. That

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Speaker 6: Well that was rude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was calling his workplace.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I understand this is when someone's new to dating.

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Speaker 6: I've learned that people don't understand what Karen is these days,

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Speaker 6: and I just have to care harder.

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Speaker 2: No, no, that is the opposite, care less.

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Speaker 7: Please listen to them, care less about me, Karen, less

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the message that we are going to

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Speaker 6: Brooking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, the positive that we can take out

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Speaker 3: of this is what is. I really don't think we

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Speaker 3: by hopeful, I mean hopefully she's not already inside his

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like she needed some reality here.

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Speaker 4: She really was like the perfect data for our show.

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Speaker 4: She had no idea, she never listened to the show.

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Speaker 4: She's still optimism about dating. I mean she got blindsided here, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: She got blindsided and she called this work. What are

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Speaker 3: She didn't know that was bad. To do him a

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Speaker 1: She did not see this coming, Brooke, don't ever call

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Speaker 5: No, I feel like we're gonna hear from her again.

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Speaker 5: She's not going to be your first ghosting.

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Speaker 3: And I think we're all just jealous of her relentless

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Speaker 3: optimism because that's exactly what you need to survive this

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Speaker 3: dating world. So I predict she'll be fine and If

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Speaker 3: you need some optimism that your dating life isn't completely tragic,

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Speaker 3: go to our podcast.

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Speaker 2: You're Gonna say, call somebody else. Yeah, Listen to.

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Speaker 3: Us on Spotify, Apple, wherever, and you will finally find

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Speaker 3: hope in your own life. Feels good, Find us at

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Speaker 3: Brook and Jeffard