1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Crime Round Up. I'm Cheryl McCollum and I 2 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: am joined as always with Joshua Schiffer and y'all. I'm 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: already laughing. I'm so sorry, but if y'all could have 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: just heard the discussion off air, you know what is 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: going on at your house. 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get her under control of Caryl's. I 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: tell her it's time to record. You are not allowed 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: to lick the condensation off my tasty arnold palmer. But 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Justice Kitty is like, oh you monster. All you do 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: is provide giant bowls of food and cold fresh water. 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to go lick this cup next to 12 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: a microphone so that everybody listening is going, what's the 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: licking noise there? 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: And then headbutt you when you take it away. 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: The head budding is it's affectionate, and I know, but 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: you also realize that's how they leave their scent on you. 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: That's that's claiming you. So one of the odd things 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: that they don't teach you in criminal defense lawyer in 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: school is if you can rub your face on jurors, 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 2: you win. You have never lost a case where I've 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: been allowed to rub my face on jurors, and I'll 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: go to grave with that, not one Oh mercy. 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: I tell you, she cracks me up. She's a star, 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: That's all there is to it. 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: That's she needs needs. 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: She needs a spotlight, she needs a spotlight, and she 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: gets people that need a spotlight. 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: I was gonna say this is the radio gold Girl, 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: Gold Gold. 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: But you know, there are people that you know, stage 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: a scene. There are hoaxes out there that you know, 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: we can dive deep into the reason they need to 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: do it. But I think for our purposes today to 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: talk about when they happen. There's a seventeen year old 35 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: kid in Florida that sent his mom a text message. 36 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: Can you just imagine? 37 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: And you know the text message bothered me right off 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: the bat. Yeah, And I don't know. 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: And we see this not necessarily just with seventeen year olds, 40 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: but the want of a not just a lie, but 41 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: a whopper, you know, not just a little oh yeah, 42 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: I didn't do that. I forgot that. I'm busy next 43 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: to No, let's write us out a whopper of a lie. 44 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: And I mean the way he even starts is wrong. 45 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, anybody that has dealt with any real just 46 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: emergency You're gonna get to the point as quick as 47 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: you can, and you were gonna be concise. You were 48 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: going to be just as accurate as you've ever been 49 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: in your life. Because it's happening right now. Anybody listen 50 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: to us, it's ever called now one one. You've never 51 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: been so on point. You're telling them exactly what's going on, 52 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: exactly where you are, and exactly what you need. 53 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: The reality checking starts faster the bigger the lae you tell. 54 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: And that's what really that reality checking is where it 55 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: all starts falling apart. Because you may think, oh, I'm smart, 56 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: Oh this is gonna be I'm just gonna wrap this up. 57 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: There's no loose ends. You have not thought about what 58 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: happens with a missing person until you've actually seen one 59 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: on the inside. There are a thousand questions you don't 60 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: have the answer to, and that's what ends up happening 61 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: with this case with the seventeen year old. There was 62 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: just that mom here locally, the cute dentist, and I 63 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: feel terrible for her husband. But it goes back to 64 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: some of the big cases. You know, we're talking about 65 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: the Smith case with the kids in the lake. You know, 66 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: you really get into some of these whopper lies that 67 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: exist on a spectrum from you know, less egregiously harmful 68 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: like I've disappeared I've been, but still serious all the 69 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: way up through real serious, horrific crime. I remember that 70 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: girl on Alabama last year who disappeared and then you 71 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: know it was found just down the street then and 72 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: then it was just mystery land what happened? 73 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: That's right, And again even with her story from Alabama, 74 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: you're driving down the expressway in the dark, so you've 75 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: only got headlights, So what are you talking about? Four 76 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: feet and if you're driving seventy miles an hour, you're 77 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: telling me you saw a baby and we're able to 78 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: pull over close enough to that baby. Not a chance. 79 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: Anybody that's ever seen anything on this side of the 80 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: road and tried to pull over, you're way past it 81 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: before you can do. 82 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: That, especially something the size of a bread box. You're 83 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: not talking about, you know, a semi pull ar car. 84 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: Put No, you're talking about little teeny package. And it 85 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: just it. And I think there's so many different motivations 86 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: for why people choose that moment to make that decision, 87 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: and I hope that their brain quickly gets into the 88 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: Oh boy, I screwed up. How do I talk my 89 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: way out of this mode? But what we're seeing is 90 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: people that just doubled down and they say, oh, they 91 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: bought the first part, so I, you know, got out 92 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: of whatever I needed to go to, got the attention 93 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: that I wanted. Someone gave me the stimulus that I 94 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: was lacking. But so many of them don't get that 95 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: and doubled down and keep the lie going, which ends 96 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: up causing really serious problems with law enforcement and the 97 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: legitimacy of callouts because the boy who cried wealth you 98 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: get law enforcement and first responders who, if they are 99 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: abused enough by inappropriate calls by you know, some of 100 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: the junk that just comes through, they lose some of 101 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: that alacrity that is really necessary when you are encountering 102 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: a real emergency, because no one's better than our first 103 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: responders when they are literally throwing themselves into the line 104 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: of fire in order to rescue people. Are especially our 105 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: medical first responder are firefighters. They are not there going 106 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: out there trying to get people at no. They want 107 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: to make sure people are safe and go back to 108 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: the office. 109 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Well, as a mama of a male I will tell 110 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: you this. It goes from when they're little they call 111 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: you mama or mommy, whatever they choose, and then somewhere 112 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: along the way it becomes mom and it kind of 113 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: breaks your heart a little, but you know it's coming. 114 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh those whys, those whys are something you know. 115 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: You lose the why Everything changes Dan to Danny, Oh men, Tom, Tommy, 116 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: Oh boy, you're talking earth shattering changes. When when that 117 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: why drops off? Mommy? 118 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: Yep, And I'll tell you my son now is twenty four. 119 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: If there is an emergency, he will say mama. Like 120 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: he he almost reverts back a little bit. When I 121 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: saw the text message and it started with mom, I 122 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: threw a flag right there. First of all, you're in 123 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: the middle of being kidnapped and you send a text message, 124 00:07:58,880 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: not a call to now one. 125 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: One, dearest mother. Things at the front have turned against using. 126 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: The bombs are dropping all around us, and it's made 127 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: it difficult to enjoy the fine tea and the exactly 128 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: exactly the very distracting to have these death and murder around. 129 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: Us, right, So that becomes the first thing that just 130 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: leaps out at me. So he wants you to believe 131 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: these four Hispanics. And again he doesn't say male or 132 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: female people just fault. He meant men, but he never 133 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: said it. So in the world of you know, statement analysis, 134 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: if you don't say it, we don't say it for you. 135 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: So you don't even identify who these people are. 136 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: Huh, flag man as well, just say and the bogeyman, 137 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: because that's the chup of Cabra. You know, sasquatch knocked 138 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: on the sho and grab me. 139 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: That's right. So like Susan Smith blamed a black man, 140 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: he's blaming for Hispanics. Now when you look at the truck, 141 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: all four doors are open. Now does it take four 142 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: grown men to get a seventeen year old out of 143 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: the car if you've got a gun? 144 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: It strains credulity to sound like a judge that that 145 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: is what happened. And that's again flag on the play 146 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 2: and it's a big red one. 147 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: It is a big red one. And it looks so 148 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: staged because it's right in this little intersection in the 149 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, no lights, no cameras, no houses, not 150 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people coming by, and there is a gunshot, 151 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: bullet hole in the truck. So when CSI gets there, 152 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: like oh man, this is kind of serious. 153 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: I believe the bullet hole missed all the important parts 154 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: of the truck as well. It did. 155 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: And it's like that person, Yes, but it's like the 156 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: person that fakes cried. There are no tears. 157 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there was no blood, Josh. 158 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: So you've got a text message that we believe is 159 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: bogus because you know, again you're in the middle of 160 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: being kidnapped and you're texting somehow four grown men are 161 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: wrastling you out of that car, but you're able to 162 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: text hold. 163 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: On, I'm almost done with this. Siri has a misspelling 164 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: I've got hold on, I don't. My mom is a stickler, 165 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: for he's a stickler. 166 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: And then his phone, of course, is damaged and thrown 167 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: right there, as if he had been in some big fight. 168 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 2: For his life. Better than the sim card getting driven 169 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: out to a military base and thrown away, but the 170 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 2: same same impact. 171 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: Yes, the phone is correct, correct, It's just something that 172 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: makes you go, now, that didn't happen like that. And 173 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: then of course detectives are gonna do what they do. 174 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna work backwards. And then we see here he 175 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: is at Walmart behind a ten and a bicycle. 176 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: Which is admittedly, if you're gonna run away a ten 177 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: of bicycle comics, pretty good sense, but it's obviously yet 178 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: another ridiculous red flag. And I think the frustration is 179 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: we see this pattern and it just exists in the 180 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: population at a very small but very real percentage x 181 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 2: number out of so many people are at some point 182 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: find it appropriate to make a very dramatic lie call 183 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: that is going to mobilize tens of thousands, if not 184 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands, and sometimes millions of dollars of our resources. 185 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: And it's a frustration when the justice part comes, because 186 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: how do you treat someone that's seven team and did 187 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: something this catastrophically dumb and poorly thought out? And what 188 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: do you do? Is this case going to be one 189 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: where we're going to educate the next crop of seventeen 190 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: year olds, because there are several million future seventeen year 191 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: olds out there, and unless we're just going to start handling, 192 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: what do we do about that? Because they don't know 193 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: these stories, they don't have that context that we do 194 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: about how these big lies eventually become a big national joke, 195 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: because it still causes very real harm and very real 196 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: fear and for parts of the community that are just afraid, 197 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: and there's just part of our world that's just afraid, 198 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: and fear is what drives them, It's what drives their decisions. 199 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: This feeds them, amps them up, jumps them, and that 200 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: leads us to this Cobb County one. How do we 201 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: and what do we do to deal with these kinds 202 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: of societal and cultural issues, because you. 203 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: Know, the last thing you want to do is not 204 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: move on it, to just say, well, this is probably 205 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: another hoax, This is probably another you know, red hair 206 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: in this is somebody trying to get attention, because as 207 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: soon as you do that, you know. 208 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: What's going to happen, guarantee, because hold on, Cheryl, there 209 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: are bad people out there doing bad things, very randomly 210 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: and unexpectedly. Look at that horrific case that was tried 211 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: last week. I'm blank, aren't bliss the mentally ill woman 212 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: and the baby and oh god, as sad as you get, 213 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: as traumatic, as preventable had we done the right thing 214 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: and kept a dangerous mentally ill person covered up in 215 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: our system by giving them the appropriate resources and taking 216 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 2: care of preventing that danger. Because when we do have 217 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: those horrific incidents. No one is better than our first responders. 218 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: No one's more needed than our first responders. 219 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: Look at the case we have right now out of Philadelphia, KATEA. Scott. 220 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: She goes to work, she checks into work, People see 221 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: her at work and then gone, Well, a lot of 222 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: people right out of the gate may say, well, she 223 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: just ran off, she didn't want to work. You know, 224 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: it didn't work out to be a beauty queen, she 225 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: took a powder whatever. No, you've got to take all 226 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: of these cases seriously. You got to put everything you 227 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: got on them, because again, what happened to her, it 228 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: was quick. This was a tight time frame. This was 229 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: a tight area from her place of business to where 230 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: they found her personal belongings to where they found his 231 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: car ditched. It's a little triangle you're talking about miles 232 00:14:59,120 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: not along this. 233 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: Real discreete easy to section off and make sure that 234 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: you're doing a good investigation. Right. 235 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: So sometimes the hoaxes, like the young seventeen year old, 236 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: he gave us a lot of flags really quick. Nothing 237 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: about that look legit, none of it. But other cases 238 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: you go, well, maybe maybe there's something to it, like 239 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: in cob County with the dentist, a ton of people 240 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: online because listen, y'all, y'all know this. Nine one one 241 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: operators are involved, they get street officers involved, they get 242 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: detectives involved, they get other agencies involved. It ain't just 243 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: cob County that was looking for her, Fulton County, Guenec County. 244 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, everybody's looking for her. They get the 245 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: poster up, be on the lookout. Well. Now social media 246 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: is involved. Honey, co workers, neighbors, her son's friends, her 247 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: husband's co workers, her clients, everybody sharing it. You're talking 248 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: about ten thousand people pretty quick. That turns into a million. 249 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: And that scaling happens instantaneously. I know that, and merely 250 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit overexposed to some of this stuff 251 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: because of my life. But the scaling, increasing sharing of knowledge, 252 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: and these emergencies, because we all realize how important the fast, 253 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: accurate response is. It gets out there in a heartbeat, 254 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: and what's happened in this case. I feel terrible for 255 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: her husband. I feel terrible for the other people involved, 256 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: the dental practice that she works at, all these other 257 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: ripples in the pond from what is apparently a lady 258 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: that fifty years old just didn't go to work and 259 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: just disappeared. 260 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: Everybody said the same thing. It's not like her. She 261 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: would not fail to come to work. And her cell 262 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: phone is left at her house. She and her purse 263 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: or her wallet nowhere to be found. Then her car. 264 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: They always love to say abandon. 265 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: And husband was out of town visiting their kid in college. 266 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: This isn't one of these families that you know there's 267 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: a bunch of young no, no, no, this was solid 268 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: Americana suburban life. Like this is not wild and crazy. 269 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: We're talking married, kid, some pets, lots of vacation photos, 270 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: great people, and so you. 271 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: Know, people can't help themselves. They're like, oh, the husband 272 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: just happened to be out of town. Well she has 273 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: to know if she had something to do with a hoax. 274 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, if it's a medical mental I don't 275 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: know what happened to her. We don't know yet. We 276 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: just know she has thankfully been found alive. But I'm 277 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: saying the people on social media, you know, the husband's 278 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: always looked at right, and you know it came out 279 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: that co workers reported her missing. Why didn't he report 280 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: her missing? Why is he conveniently out of town? Was 281 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: it for an alibi? Was this a murder for her? 282 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: Like people are just wildfire. They're questioning their marriage, they're 283 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: questioning whether or not he had something to do with 284 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: her disappearance. That's not fair to him. 285 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 2: It's not fair to him at all. And again it 286 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: illustrates how we should all just slow down for just 287 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: a second there, y'all. Like, I know how important the 288 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 2: immediate response is. We need to let our resources search 289 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: for people. We need to take these reports extraordinarily seriously, 290 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: while also remembering the cynicism that we've all seen and 291 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: we've all experienced where these so often are found out 292 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: to be something that I believe is mentally related. And 293 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm not going to go as far as say that's 294 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: a mental illness. You can have a stressful incident at 295 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 2: a low point or at a specific juncture wherein you 296 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: would make a decision that otherwise you would never make. 297 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: And as we see in criminal justice time and time again, 298 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: the first bad decision, it's just the handshake. It's just 299 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: meeting the rest of the ridiculous decisions that people start 300 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 2: making once they feel the ball is rolling. It ain't 301 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 2: gathering no more moss, it's rolling downhill fast and they 302 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: start telling another. 303 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 1: Lie and Joshua. Sometimes they get people to back them up. 304 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: Oh God. 305 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: And in the case of the seventeen year old boy, 306 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: his mama kind of backed him up. 307 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: Well, and that's how we get into you know, when 308 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: you're watching a case and you're like, hold on, that 309 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: don't make no sense. It wouldn't have happened what we 310 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: are so often missing and you I haven't seen unless 311 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 2: you've really maybe been inside investigation. That contradictory, problematic bit 312 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: of information. Everybody knows it. But how are you going 313 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: to expand that case in a way driving your purpose 314 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: and mission as an investigator as opposed to causing more 315 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: additional problems for an eventual case or prosecution or successful resolution. 316 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: As soon as son lies and mom starts to cover up, okay, 317 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: so now we got another thread and pathway of lies. 318 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: And then what happens when someone goes, oh, yes, Susan, 319 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: she did tell me, Well, there's another settle lies in 320 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: this spider web, and exponentially, in a absolutely parabolic manner, 321 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: lies replicate, they breathe, and they weigh on you. Thankfully, 322 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 2: law enforcement knows this, and as long as they can 323 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 2: catch lie most of the time, they're real good at 324 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 2: tracking it back to the source. And that's really how 325 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: good investigations can take place, because the less culpable liar 326 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: is easier to shift off their position and oh, yep, 327 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: you got me, I did lie. Steve really wasn't there 328 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: on Tuesday. Okay. Well, now that we've established Steve isn't 329 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 2: there on Tuesday, anything else you're lying about? No, no, no, nothing, 330 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: nose okay, because I'm choosing not to charge you for obstruction. 331 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: And that's what explains so often when we've got a 332 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 2: big question out there in a big case, the answer 333 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: is there and it's known by law enforcement, and it 334 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: probably involved a witness or other collaborator being busted on 335 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: a lie. Because it also explains how otherwise wonderful people 336 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: get wrapped up in horrible stuff. I don't care how 337 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: good and moral and wonderful you are. You're loved one, 338 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 2: your most important person in the world, comes to you 339 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: in a panic. Something has gone code read Defcon nine 340 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: its emergency time. Fires are raging. You will do or 341 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: say lots of things, including dishonest, bad plant ooh, in 342 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: order to help save that person you love. That's where 343 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: the mistake happens more often than not. And when law 344 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: enforcement can identify that mistake, that betrayal of your otherwise 345 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: duties to the world in the effort to protect someone 346 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: that you care about, that's where the crack forms. And 347 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: if you can get in there, pride open, you will 348 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: get to the end of that lie and you will 349 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: find out how, what, where, why that lie got told, 350 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: and what the intent was. And that's how you're really 351 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: doing good investigations get into the bottom of the there. 352 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: You know, I say all the time, a lie is 353 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: as good as a confession. I love it when you 354 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: lie to me. I got you now painted in a corner. 355 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, going back to the text message. 356 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: As a parent, you know, you know the way your 357 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: daughter's texting you what's up. If she's all of a 358 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: sudden like, oh, you know, daddy, this is gonna be 359 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: so fun. Can I have forty two of my friends 360 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: over and you get pizza for everybody? She's buttering you up. 361 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: You already know, and you're gonna say yes, sugar, because 362 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: you're just so fabulous. But if she's like, Josh, answer 363 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: the phone, you. 364 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: Know well, and you know what just popped into my 365 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: head just because I was remarkable the Landry family. 366 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: Oh yes, lord aye, I hope. 367 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: That gives that perspective on something where, Man, I'm telling you, 368 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: my heart went in two different directions, ripped itself in distress. 369 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: You do. 370 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: You know you've got love and decency and honesty, and wow, 371 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: talk about ripping a parent apart. 372 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: It's unimaginable on both sides to say I do the 373 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: right thing. 374 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 2: But I tell you what, I've got moral failings. I've 375 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: made lots of mistakes in my sure, sure you know? 376 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: And how are you going to react in that minute 377 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 2: when your blood pressure has gone from normal to are 378 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 2: you kidding me? 379 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know that case is one that you could 380 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: debate at churches and law schools and you're not going 381 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: to get any answers. But but I will say the 382 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: actions of the victims family versus the perpetrator's family, I 383 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: know who was right overall and who was absolutely incorrect. 384 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: That high road. I'm telling you, even when it's hard. 385 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: I was just talking about this the other day with 386 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: someone navigating an ethically challenging family situation where man, if 387 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 2: you want to take a couple of cheap shots, this 388 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 2: is your opportunity to take them. And I'm like, dude, don't, don't. 389 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: The high road matters, not just now. The high road 390 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: matters in perpetuity when you're going back and reflecting, because 391 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: as emergency as it is now, as the lights are 392 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: beeping and flash, the high road is impenetrable. It is 393 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: bulletproof because you're not carrying the burden of a lie. 394 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: All lies are burdens. They are rocks in your pocket, 395 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 2: they are led around your neck because you have to 396 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 2: keep that lie. And worse, if you're lying on behalf 397 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: of someone else, now your exposures multiplied because not only 398 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 2: are you responsible for keeping up somebody else's lie, you're 399 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: exposed because if somebody else betrays you, it's gonna turn 400 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: out that you're a liar. So when your line for someone, 401 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: you are actually adding pain, misery, and a burden on 402 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: your life. And when you carry that burden it is tiresome. 403 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: You will eventually, depending on this lie and the interest 404 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: in other people, it will break. Very few lies last 405 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: forever unless they are very minor. 406 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: And let's talk about lies when they're stupid. So I'm 407 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna read this whole text message so that people can 408 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: hear it if they hadn't heard it, Mom, I need help, 409 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: being shot at for Hispanics, armed white van, one driver, 410 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm hit, Okay, mom, just it. So. 411 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: The first place my brain goes is someone was putting 412 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: together the first treatment of their legal thriller novel at 413 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: about age seventeen fifteen. They're right, what is that conversation? 414 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: What is an emergency text sound If I'm going to 415 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: write a good emergency text, what what should it sound like? 416 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: But it is so clinical and and it's so bad. 417 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: I need help. But he never says where he is 418 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: or the help that he needs. He says he's being 419 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: shot at, which means he wasn't hit for Hispanics. He 420 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: doesn't say male or female white van. Okay, you're just 421 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: proven that you are trying. 422 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: To use the free candy inside. 423 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, my favorite, my favorite one driver. Ain't there always 424 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: one driver. 425 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: As opposed to the to the tag team. They were 426 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: in one of them, the Learners cars where you got 427 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: two wheels and there's that chain and two sets two 428 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: sets of brakes. It was it was a Learners And then. 429 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: He can't repeat the lae, which we always see. He 430 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: can't repeat the lie and say he's been shot. He says, 431 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm hit like he's in a war video game. I've 432 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: been hit. Okay, Nothing about that text message rings true, 433 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: none of it, not a part of it. And here's 434 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: the other thing for anybody thinking, oh, I could write 435 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: a better text message, the fact that he wrote a 436 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: text message he already left. 437 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: Up at all. Yeah, like it. Once that SHOT's fired, y'all, 438 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: you cannot stuff the toothpaste back in the tube. As 439 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: one of my professors, it's true. 440 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: You cannot unring a bell. I'm going to open every door, 441 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: make it look like it was a big old struggle. 442 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: All they gotta do is ride up the sign. You 443 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: put a pistol in your face, and you're going to cooperate. 444 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: I have been arm robbed by two guys with a big, 445 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: shiny gun. I can tell you the gun. I want 446 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: to know what happens when you're getting robbed. You look 447 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: at the giant hand can and that can kill you. 448 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: That is being pressed against you, and it's not. When 449 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: I checked this on the grooming schedule of the two 450 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 2: young men that were relieving me of my briefcase and bag, 451 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: I didn't have a long conversation with them about their 452 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: you know skin tone and no, no, there was a 453 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: giant shiny chrome nickel plated nineteen eleven being pointed at me. 454 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: I was very focused on it. There was no texting involved, 455 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: there was a lot of They drove away and I 456 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: ran in and went, holy shit, I just got robbed. 457 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: Called the police, right and right people, That's what. 458 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, laser focused, very clear, very direct. I just 459 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: got robbed. Call the police. 460 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: Your system is set up inside so that if you 461 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: are exposed to threats, there is an automatic, chenistic response. 462 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: Your body will go into basically the shock stress. Why. 463 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: That's how we've stayed alive for so long. People responding 464 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: to instinctating situations may survive longer as a whole. 465 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: And Joshua, listen to me. You're a word person, you 466 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: are a word smith. You love a story, You love 467 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: a crescendo, you love a dramatic ending. You didn't walk 468 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: in there and go everybody gather around. 469 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: Let me, let me set the scene for you. It 470 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: was evening. You could it smelled a little bit like 471 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: right the ocean, but not on the ocean. You know 472 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: that smell because you've been to Florida. 473 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: Right right, as I traverse the stamps of this courthouse and. 474 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: What you do around time. But that's when it cracks 475 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: me up when you're doing the police reports and you 476 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: find the police report who's actually a failed screenwriter, Because 477 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: every once in a while you get a detective who 478 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: just they were working on some construction story issues. They 479 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: were fleshing this out because some of the reports are 480 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: just magic. And then some of the reports are saw 481 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: a driver operating a vehicle illegally arrested for DUI report 482 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: to follow. 483 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: It was a dark and storm and night. 484 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: It was a dark and stormy night. I was out 485 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: there saving the world, one man at a time. As 486 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: I was patrolling cop Parkway in my chariot, and as. 487 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: They ran off, I said, call me. I'll represent you. 488 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: I'll represent you. I'm here for you. 489 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: You allegedly stole for me. 490 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: All right, that's it. We're gonna have to add another 491 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: theater to the another show to the theater run. We're 492 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: gonna have to write us a new a police Gilbert 493 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: and Sullivan musical drama with overwrought reports. 494 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: Still have our list of songs. We need to make 495 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: this happen. All right, Well, we need to quit talking 496 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: for somebody steals the idea. 497 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 2: Half a nap, not even warmed up, not even warmed up. 498 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: All right, all right, you and Justice kiddie have a 499 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: good evening. Let's go start our week. 500 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: Baby, you two. Everybody have just a magical week. My 501 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: new thing is go love somebody, even if it's yourself. 502 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: Take time for someone, show them you love them, even 503 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: if it's you, because you deserve lots of love. Cheryl, 504 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: you know I love you. Max, You're the best producer 505 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: in producery. To steal a line from another friend of mine. 506 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: And I hope everybody has an amazing week. 507 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: That's perfect rap