Speaker 1: It's nine O gene one engine with Jenny Garth and
Speaker 1: Tory spelling.
Speaker 2: Okay, you guys, ready Ready. Season five, Episode one, What
Speaker 2: I Did on My Summer Vacation and Other Stories aired
Speaker 2: September seventh, nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 3: Synopsis. Season five kicks off with new hair and new drama.
Speaker 3: We're in the Stays in London, but Valerie moves into
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills and she's raided a rule of some trouble. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: Donna thinks she's over, David, Kelly is all over, Brandon,
Speaker 3: Steve is already smitten, and Dylan is down and out
Speaker 3: in Baja California.
Speaker 2: Directive, I'm oh, Michael Lang is back. They must have
Speaker 2: really liked Michael Lang. Michael Lang is directing and written
Speaker 2: by Charles Rosen and Larry Moore.
Speaker 1: Then nineteen ninety four was what was the most significant
Speaker 1: thing in your lives Jenny and Tory's lives in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four?
Speaker 4: Like, did you get married? Have a baby? Can you?
Speaker 4: You probably did one of those. No, I know, I
Speaker 4: didn't have a baby till ninety seven, y'all. No, but
Speaker 4: you might have gotten married? Oh really, Oh yeah, I
Speaker 4: got Maybe I got married. How old would I have been?
Speaker 4: Shuld anybody do math? How old would I have been
Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety four? Uh? You would be yeah? Twenty No,
Speaker 4: twenty two? Okay, so yeah I got married Rose twenty one.
Speaker 4: What year? Google it?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Probably check it because you know, I
Speaker 2: could be wrong about that, but yeah, I probably got
Speaker 2: out here either I was married, getting married, or getting divorced,
Speaker 2: because those things all kind of happened real quick in
Speaker 2: the in the nineties.
Speaker 4: Oh, maybe I should google what year you did that
Speaker 4: TV movie? You know, the one? Oh what one? Wow?
Speaker 4: Was in ninety four? That was later later? Well, then
Speaker 4: there'd be no divorce then. Oh oh, well, I guess
Speaker 4: you're right. Did you meet Peter on a TV movie?
Speaker 4: Is that what's happening that I'm not? Yes, okay, got it?
Speaker 4: Got it.
Speaker 1: For those of us playing along that don't don't speak
Speaker 1: Tory Jenny are incidling.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the episode though, because it's way more interesting.
Speaker 3: So this is the first time married for the first
Speaker 3: time in nineteen ninety four, sixteenth you got married like
Speaker 3: a minute ago, you know that?
Speaker 2: Good job?
Speaker 4: Wow? No, thank you? Wait?
Speaker 1: Is this the first time we saw show and then credits.
Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: Like, like, what's that called when you do a little teaser?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do it on like other shows regularly.
Speaker 1: So what I can't remember is is that the way
Speaker 1: it's going to be here too?
Speaker 4: Four? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think they change it up. I remember they did
Speaker 2: that maybe once or twice in the last season. They
Speaker 2: like showed a little bit of the show and then
Speaker 2: rolled into the teaser I mean into the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the credits or or sometimes you get
Speaker 1: that up previously on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't do that.
Speaker 4: I don't know. The show just feels very different. Yeah,
Speaker 4: can we just credits? Like, how did you feel about that? Well?
Speaker 4: We have two main two new cast members as regulars.
Speaker 2: They look completely different, completely.
Speaker 4: Well, Jenny, you're number two, Like I didn't you notice?
Speaker 2: Like oh I wrote by the look I wrote it
Speaker 2: down that I didn't.
Speaker 4: I was like, uh, what's happening? Because what fascinates me? Seven?
Speaker 4: With one gone, I'm still number seven, number number seven.
Speaker 1: I used to be number eight, one, two, five, six, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're number seven. But what's what I was interested in
Speaker 1: is how far down Luke Perry is. I would have
Speaker 1: assumed since this is number five, but maybe not that
Speaker 1: it would have gone Jason, Jenny, Luke, but it doesn't.
Speaker 1: It goes Jason, Jenny, Iron, Gabrielle, then Luke, then Brian,
Speaker 1: Austin Green, then Tory, than Mark, than Tiffany, than the Walshes.
Speaker 4: Correct. Yeah, that's interesting to me.
Speaker 3: Well, because everyone was I mean probably because Luke originally
Speaker 3: wasn't in the first episode when they added him.
Speaker 4: People already had their orders, so he had to.
Speaker 2: He had to just get in line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he went above you back then. I mean,
Speaker 4: but but he jumped Brian. Yeah, he did so weird. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he jumped Brian.
Speaker 1: And does anybody ever get uh and Luke Perry do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like you know how they Yeah.
Speaker 2: That if you're a special guest star, right.
Speaker 4: M hm.
Speaker 1: Kathleen is not in this I should have done that
Speaker 1: in The New Things.
Speaker 4: Was she in the opening credit?
Speaker 1: No, and she's not in the episode and she's not anywhere.
Speaker 4: Did she join as a regular series regular? Do we know?
Speaker 2: And I don't know that she'll be people You mentioned
Speaker 2: Tiffany and Mark those are the.
Speaker 3: Two are officially regulars. Well, Tiffany's near this season, but
Speaker 3: Mark was on before as Jesse, but he's officially a
Speaker 3: series regular.
Speaker 4: Now. This must have been so exciting for people that were,
Speaker 4: like say by the Bell fans who didn't know this
Speaker 4: was happening, and then all of a sudden to see
Speaker 4: the meet Valerie Malone and have it be Kelly right a.
Speaker 3: Big press release before this that she was coming to
Speaker 3: nine or two and O like, I don't remember back then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't remember.
Speaker 2: We didn't really like internet to spread the TV.
Speaker 1: And like teen beat would do you like how she
Speaker 1: was introduced?
Speaker 4: I did not. I thought we could have had a bit.
Speaker 1: More fanfare, like so they talk about her the girl
Speaker 1: that's gonna live in Brenda's room, which I still think
Speaker 1: is ridiculous, and we can talk about that because you
Speaker 1: just never say though, but we don't get her until
Speaker 1: well into the episode and the intro of her is her.
Speaker 4: Back, well, then give it. Then she turns around and she's.
Speaker 1: Like, I thought maybe we would have had her I'm
Speaker 1: down the stairs or just something a bit bigger. And
Speaker 1: now maybe they wanted to downplay it, but they talk
Speaker 1: about the girl and Brenda's room.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just thought, oh, I would have
Speaker 4: done that, differently. Yeah, it wasn't a big moment.
Speaker 2: I just like I was upset we didn't see her
Speaker 2: at the airport, Like, what the fuck was the play
Speaker 2: of going to the airport and doing all those scenes
Speaker 2: at the airport, right.
Speaker 1: I thought she should come off the plane.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wish they had alluded to something that maybe Brenda
Speaker 3: didn't go, which was coming back or would that be
Speaker 3: a real setting to the fan?
Speaker 4: A setup? And then she turned and you see brown hair.
Speaker 2: That's the girl or the because I thought that Brenda
Speaker 2: was coming back in the beginning of the episode, because
Speaker 2: Mommy was making up her room for her and she
Speaker 2: wanted it to look cozy.
Speaker 3: She said, Oh, if they were smart, they would have
Speaker 3: filmed that last scene with Shannon Luke two ways.
Speaker 4: So it kept going, So you like that pan out.
Speaker 4: We should have been running the show and that could
Speaker 4: have been a flashback. I know we should have.
Speaker 1: So what did you all think of the subtle dig
Speaker 1: that I interpreted as a subtle dig When Brandon and
Speaker 1: David are walking and he casually says, oh, she's staying
Speaker 1: in London.
Speaker 4: At this rate we met, we may never see her again,
Speaker 4: and then David gives the yeah, they were to dig you, guys,
Speaker 4: that is a dig. It didn't feel like a dig.
Speaker 2: It just felt like addressing it in as.
Speaker 4: Aggressive. Now you're speaking my language.
Speaker 1: Okay, did like it? Just they wrote it in intentionally.
Speaker 1: That's an intentional line that now we look at at
Speaker 1: this rate, we may never see her again.
Speaker 4: Because we don't.
Speaker 2: They're trying to like lay the foundation for what is
Speaker 2: The audience is freaking out, although it wasn't addressed enough
Speaker 2: for me, who was like, my head was spinning, Where's Brenda?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 2: What do you mean she's not coming back? This girl
Speaker 2: in her room? Like I needed more answers. I needed
Speaker 2: to see Brenda on the phone at least, or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah that could have happened, or yeah, or a fake
Speaker 5: conversation where she can you do like they do on
Speaker 5: Sex and the City with Samantha how they do the
Speaker 5: text to Samantha, So they could have acted like they're
Speaker 5: talking to her and she's not there.
Speaker 1: I still think it's weird that Tiffany's in the credits
Speaker 1: but we haven't met her.
Speaker 4: You would have saved it for the second episode. I
Speaker 4: would have.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I wouldn't have done that either, because it's
Speaker 1: like say that you are sort of like living in
Speaker 1: a bubble and you don't follow magazines and you just
Speaker 1: watch the show.
Speaker 4: You're like, well, who's that girl in the credits? Do
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Yeah? I want to like
Speaker 4: or had.
Speaker 1: Her come off the plane in the beginning of the
Speaker 1: episode the credit and then go to the credits and
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, okay, yeah, weird.
Speaker 4: Fifth season, they had to do something big.
Speaker 3: I'm sure there was something huge in the press that
Speaker 3: Shannon was leaving, Tiffany was coming.
Speaker 4: There had to be something because we got to get
Speaker 4: people to keep going watch right. Yeah, so I'm sure
Speaker 4: everyone knew.
Speaker 1: It's still weird to me that they keep referring to
Speaker 1: her multiple times as the girl staying in Brenda's room.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you say it.
Speaker 1: As, Oh, we're getting ready for our very close family
Speaker 1: friend that's moving in with us, the girl staying in
Speaker 1: Brenda's room.
Speaker 2: Like what they were trying to be mysterious? Can we
Speaker 2: check and see what kind of pressed there was? Yeah,
Speaker 2: at the beginning, get your phone out, come on. I
Speaker 2: want to know, like, did they release something?
Speaker 4: Was there? Big? Big one?
Speaker 2: Like cover story on seventeen?
Speaker 1: Oh, it would have been working so it would have
Speaker 1: like been out and about, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: In the magazines, it would have been magazines like US Magazine,
Speaker 1: Team Beat, People, TV Guide for sure.
Speaker 4: I feel like, okay, so you guys.
Speaker 3: Once we went into this season, I started like everything
Speaker 3: was like came back to me. I think this is
Speaker 3: the points in the program where I start to remember
Speaker 3: everything filming wise.
Speaker 4: Oh good, like five seasons in, we'll tell us everything. Yay,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like, of course, when we watched stuff, we're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I remember doing that scene, but it's not like consistent
Speaker 3: this one. I was like, oh, I think from now on,
Speaker 3: I consistently remember, we'll see you.
Speaker 2: Remember filming the scene in the Beauty Solon with me?
Speaker 4: Yes, wow, wow wow wow? Where were you? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I feel like it was somewhere on Ventura.
Speaker 2: I can't say yes.
Speaker 4: I remember it came through the.
Speaker 3: Alley and I had to film and there was something
Speaker 3: weird with us that day, Me and you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, never is not.
Speaker 2: Why were Kelly and Donna?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I feel like Marie and Jenny.
Speaker 3: There was something that day. I don't remember what it was,
Speaker 3: but it was like weirdness, like uncomfortableness and I don't
Speaker 3: know what over what remember?
Speaker 4: Gosh, I wish you could, I know, but it's really
Speaker 4: weird for Kelly and Donna. And that scene was just
Speaker 4: so unnumn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so weird. And then because were they fighting?
Speaker 2: Because was it that Kelly sided with David?
Speaker 4: I just don't get it.
Speaker 2: She would never side with David when he cheated on Donna. Like,
Speaker 2: that's not Kelly.
Speaker 4: Hmm. I think I made up right away totally.
Speaker 1: And God bless those hair stylists because they brought them
Speaker 1: back together.
Speaker 4: You know what I noticed? Did you guys.
Speaker 1: Notice on Beverly Cannon Flowers they put the phone number?
Speaker 4: Can we call it? Can we call it? Yeah? What
Speaker 4: is it? So?
Speaker 1: The number they put up there was two seven five
Speaker 1: three three seven two, and I'm assuming it was three
Speaker 1: one oh because back then you didn't have area codes,
Speaker 1: Like what.
Speaker 4: Is it two seven five? He was seven five three
Speaker 4: three seven two two and three y'all? But if it
Speaker 4: was in Beverly Hills, was it two one three then?
Speaker 4: Or was it three one oh? It's not allocated? Also,
Speaker 4: does Tory know her flashlights on on her phone? Ill?
Speaker 4: So Tory?
Speaker 1: No one answer around with my flashlight on not allocated.
Speaker 3: That number is not allocated, so for grabs, I think, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I noticed.
Speaker 1: They showed Beverly Cannon flowers and Rodeo Collection, which I'm
Speaker 1: assuming both of those things.
Speaker 4: Were at the time. Real, yeah, yes, Rodeo Collection was.
Speaker 4: I didn't really, I didn't really notice your question. Were bigger? No, no,
Speaker 4: they look like they always looked to me, Hm, did
Speaker 4: you know I'm done yet?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: I thought it came in a later scene, but later
Speaker 4: episode where we're at the.
Speaker 3: A cat house or one of them, sorry like parties.
Speaker 3: But when she turned and walked away from you and
Speaker 3: Brandon and Valerie like I had no brawn and they
Speaker 3: were bigger and you.
Speaker 4: Like baby tea under my little long dress. So yeah,
Speaker 4: but that is yeah, you're right. No, you know what? No, no, no,
Speaker 4: I got them done over Christmas vacation. Okay, So now
Speaker 4: I take a back. Santa brought you boobies. No, I
Speaker 4: brought myself boobies. But it was a pain that asked
Speaker 4: to go Christmas shopping. Okay.
Speaker 2: So Donna and David have been broken up all summer. Yeah, David,
Speaker 2: I guess was going on tour with Babyface.
Speaker 4: Because that's humping Ariel.
Speaker 2: And doing Aeriel all along the way getting crabs and yeah,
Speaker 2: and then she got bored of them but gave him crabs,
Speaker 2: which was gross.
Speaker 4: Really gross, didn't you?
Speaker 2: But I did kind of like his video presentation of it.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, guys something I can remember
Speaker 1: being twenty, So this is nineteen ninety, about twenty watching that,
Speaker 1: being in college and being completely panicked about what are crabs?
Speaker 1: What are crabs?
Speaker 4: How do you get them? Do I have them? Am
Speaker 4: I going to get them? Like from your show? Oh? Really, well,
Speaker 4: you're welcome. I had not that we educated you. Oh
Speaker 4: my gosh, I had never heard of them.
Speaker 1: So then this video comes on and we're all like,
Speaker 1: David silver has what what is that? And like, I
Speaker 1: don't even know how I figured it out because we
Speaker 1: didn't have the internet, so I must have like crabs.
Speaker 4: You guys, can you remember when Waterman got crabs our
Speaker 4: makeup artist?
Speaker 2: Do you remember this story?
Speaker 4: No? And he didn't know what it was and so
Speaker 4: he what's the fleaentic killer? Uh? No? Rat? He sprayed
Speaker 4: it down there? Burns is nutsauce? What an idiot? Wait?
Speaker 1: Before we move on, also, can we talk about how
Speaker 1: in the flashback, one of you says, get a life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kelly does to Donna, she would never say that,
Speaker 3: Like my boyfriend just cheating on me.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it doesn't make life.
Speaker 2: That was like a total saying, we all wait, can
Speaker 2: I just ask you a question about crabs?
Speaker 4: Last thing about crabs?
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if you have safe sex with a condom,
Speaker 2: you can still get crabs, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why they're like the area. It's like it's
Speaker 4: like lice, so gross. I've never had that either.
Speaker 1: That's why this show was so traumatizing to like an
Speaker 1: average college person.
Speaker 4: I was like, what is that.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like it was like clear, like we
Speaker 2: know now because we know what crabs are. But as
Speaker 2: a teenager, it was so quick and there were real
Speaker 2: crabs crawling on rocks, so I didn't know if people
Speaker 2: really made the connection.
Speaker 1: Yes they did, because I was so traumatized. I remember
Speaker 1: being like, what is that? What does that mean?
Speaker 4: What do I so gross?
Speaker 1: And I kind of think I asked around and I
Speaker 1: guess it's not really that prevalent.
Speaker 4: Maybe I might be. I think America, you.
Speaker 2: Get crabs if you have greasy man bangs.
Speaker 3: Wait, can we talk about Brandon's facial pubes like it's
Speaker 3: I can't it's a little large, it's a drawing. It's
Speaker 3: it's what you draw on some on a you draw
Speaker 3: face or somebody's.
Speaker 4: Picture, like a mocking thing. Go on, was he doing
Speaker 4: a movie or something? And that's what he had, was
Speaker 4: that it was a choice or he had to. Like Billy,
Speaker 4: he's hot, but the hair was a little much. I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 2: It was weird to just open on Kelly and Brandon
Speaker 2: and bed again and not have any like romance, not
Speaker 2: have any.
Speaker 4: Court like they're making it seem like just sex, but
Speaker 4: it's not. They're like meant to be. No, they're fully together.
Speaker 1: They've been traveling with the Washes and they're having family
Speaker 1: dinners and the whole thing.
Speaker 3: I do like your banter with him though. It's so
Speaker 3: cool and sweet and just authentic. And I like Kelly with.
Speaker 4: Him, Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 2: I like Kelly already in season five way more than
Speaker 2: I did in season four. Like she just seems happier.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're fun and bubbly, Kelly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she just seems like confident and secure and fun
Speaker 2: and she doesn't give.
Speaker 4: A lighter lighter much more because.
Speaker 2: Dell Wig is gone and he's not bringing her down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very You've been totally accepted in the family.
Speaker 1: It's like you're going on trips with them. It's all good.
Speaker 1: I also must say I like your betting that strip
Speaker 1: dark Bedding with the Paisley as the That was well done.
Speaker 4: Very pritts, very pritts.
Speaker 1: I actually was surprised I hadn't remembered that you had
Speaker 1: traveled with them to Minnesota, Lake Minnetaka or whatever.
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem like a dream vacation for Kellen Taylor,
Speaker 2: but okay, I, on the other hand, would appreciate a
Speaker 2: good Lake Minnetaka vacation.
Speaker 4: I like lakes. You like lakes.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they just Kelly and Brandon do seem together.
Speaker 2: I just wish that the storytelling had gone a little differently.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Oh well, you are telling everybody now, it's not going
Speaker 1: to be a secret for long.
Speaker 4: You know, everybody's finding out. I just think it's still
Speaker 4: so weird that they all don't talk for the whole summer.
Speaker 4: It's just weird.
Speaker 1: But there's no cell phones, there's no really maybe attached
Speaker 1: to the BMW's no Internet, Like, what are they going
Speaker 1: to mail letters to each other, like you didn't talk
Speaker 1: for the summer landlines.
Speaker 4: But why why are you not at the beach apartment?
Speaker 4: Did you move out? And are you going to move
Speaker 4: back in? Or what's you're staying with your parents? Your
Speaker 4: parents you still have their house?
Speaker 1: Well, because they were in a fight. So here's what
Speaker 1: my theory on that you two were fighting. So she
Speaker 1: went to Houston for the summer. She's back for a
Speaker 1: week or whatever, but she's staying at home because you
Speaker 1: two were on the outs. But now that you're gonna
Speaker 1: be fine again, I think she's.
Speaker 4: Gonna come back. Yeah, hopefully.
Speaker 2: Well I'm saying that like I don't know, Wait, okay,
Speaker 2: go to the Lax just gave me anxiety? What just
Speaker 2: filming there? Looking at them film there made me fail anxious,
Speaker 2: like I was about to miss my flight and I
Speaker 2: didn't care for it because that was like the real Lax.
Speaker 2: But was the whole point of going to Lex just
Speaker 2: so we could see Howie Long?
Speaker 4: Like why was how Long on the show?
Speaker 1: So I believe there was something where the NFL was
Speaker 1: on Fox maybe now and we did a whole thing
Speaker 1: with Eye, So I'm pretty sure it was like robot replacement.
Speaker 4: But that was just like Sinne football scene.
Speaker 1: And did he call Steve Freddy? I was like, Freddy,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought he called Steve the wrong name.
Speaker 1: At first, I'm like, Freddy, Freddy, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: My agin they were so scared, They're like, it's Howie Long.
Speaker 3: We would just let it go.
Speaker 4: It was because you know what, he is a very
Speaker 4: large man, and the like some picture of all of
Speaker 4: us with Howie Long home. How about the Raiders were
Speaker 4: in LA.
Speaker 1: It's like the Raiders were in Oakland, then they were
Speaker 1: in LA, then they were back in Oakland, and now they're.
Speaker 4: Like in Vegas, so they're not even It's so crazy.
Speaker 4: Tory just fell asleep. WHI you're speaking foreign language totally
Speaker 4: like I'm out.
Speaker 2: I just saw you go.
Speaker 1: Like and then was anyone disappointed when Howi Long's like,
Speaker 1: not a word to your mom and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be juicy. And then it's just like how
Speaker 1: he Long fantasized about Steve Sanders' mom.
Speaker 4: And then he was gone, and who cares? But he
Speaker 4: did another scene. No, I only saw one, I know,
Speaker 4: but there's he was at the Walsh House for some reason,
Speaker 4: or I guess that was just like maybe sure we
Speaker 4: all took with him, or oh, I can't remember. I
Speaker 4: don't know something we did something big with him. I
Speaker 4: don't remember. He might come on another episode.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe that'd be fun.
Speaker 1: Okay, how about Steve devoting his love to you and
Speaker 1: telling Brandon at the airport, I'm coming home for the love.
Speaker 4: Of my life. Ridiculous? Too little, too late? Give me?
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, Steve, We've already done this, Like,
Speaker 2: I feel like we've done this too, maybe three times.
Speaker 4: At least where he getting but Kelly calls it out.
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, every time he gets stumped, he comes
Speaker 2: back to me, which is sweet and she handles it nicely,
Speaker 2: like but it's still just.
Speaker 4: Heart crushing for him, over and over.
Speaker 2: You know who was in the show a lot this week?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 2: The boom?
Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Tell us where? Tell
Speaker 4: us where he?
Speaker 2: When I talk about the boom, But the boom was
Speaker 2: even at Lax, y'all. It was in the in the house,
Speaker 2: it was at Lax, it was in the hospital, it
Speaker 2: was everywhere.
Speaker 1: Are these loves or is this because we watch on
Speaker 1: Bigger screens.
Speaker 4: Now, oh you've mentioned that, maybe, Like, how could they
Speaker 4: have it in there so much? Could be I had
Speaker 4: a big screen TV in nineteen ninety four. No, but
Speaker 4: it just wasn't. He was telling us how it's different now, Well,
Speaker 4: because it's square.
Speaker 1: Back then, the TVs were like square. So then when
Speaker 1: it went to rectangle, I.
Speaker 4: Don't know that cut off the top.
Speaker 2: I would think, right, it seems there's no excuse for it.
Speaker 4: It's just there's no excuse.
Speaker 1: How about the traumatizing scene with the baby hand the
Speaker 1: Hannah flashback?
Speaker 2: Like what why? Why did they do it?
Speaker 4: No? Really traumatizing? Right?
Speaker 1: Did they have nothing else for her to be a
Speaker 1: part of that? We had to see that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, with the black and white flashback and the breastfeeding.
Speaker 1: The baby's turning blue code blue?
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, this is like not okay.
Speaker 2: And but for no absolutely no payoff other than for
Speaker 2: her to tell a little story to a complete stranger
Speaker 2: and never see that girl again.
Speaker 1: And once again her intuition is always right.
Speaker 4: But is that Gab's real baby? Guys? I wondered that.
Speaker 4: I'm totally wondering, why do you think that?
Speaker 2: Well, because she had a baby, have attack on the
Speaker 2: boob were there?
Speaker 1: And would you not want your own baby not her boob?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And she felt she felt so natural with that baby.
Speaker 2: I felt like, because didn't she just have a baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I went through my mind that it
Speaker 1: was definitely her real baby.
Speaker 4: But like, I don't know, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I wondered, what why is Valerie so tan
Speaker 2: if she's from Buffalo? These are the things, that's what
Speaker 2: you wondered that make me think.
Speaker 4: About when she gave the bree hands I'm not straight hands? Well,
Speaker 4: tann Yeah, I remember Tiffany had a tanning bed in
Speaker 4: her house.
Speaker 1: No, you're right, she is cute. She's definitely cute. But
Speaker 1: when she gave the wink and the finger gun?
Speaker 4: Did you guys see that when they were playing basketball?
Speaker 4: So okay, what do you guys think?
Speaker 1: Come on, you gotta tell me because I know you're
Speaker 1: not telling me, Like, do you hate Valerie?
Speaker 4: Do you like Valerie? Were you?
Speaker 1: Were you not welcoming to Tiffany? The boys welcoming.
Speaker 4: To Well, you have to.
Speaker 2: I'm not picking my face.
Speaker 4: There's like a little bump er there. I can't so distracted? Sorry,
Speaker 4: are you avoiding the questions thank you both are like
Speaker 4: did you not like? Were you like? Why did they
Speaker 4: bring her in? What were you guys?
Speaker 3: What I was gonna say regards press, I remember Tiffany's
Speaker 3: like first stay on set, there was a lot of
Speaker 3: press there, like they like they were doing interviews with
Speaker 3: her and stuff.
Speaker 2: I remember, you know then, not as I would think
Speaker 2: these ways now as adult, but as a young girl,
Speaker 2: I remember thinking, yeah, why are they bringing this girl in?
Speaker 2: Like we're doing great? Do we need to have what?
Speaker 2: Why is someone coming to fill the Brenda shoes? It
Speaker 2: just felt like, I don't know, it just felt like
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't get it, and I was probably not.
Speaker 4: That open to the concept. M hmm.
Speaker 2: But it worked for my character, that's for sure. Because
Speaker 2: Kelly and Brenda, I mean Val and Brenda never got
Speaker 2: along on the show.
Speaker 4: You're Kelly, You're Kelly, Kelly and other Kelly.
Speaker 2: You know that one Kelly and Val never got along?
Speaker 2: Oh right, right right, Like it was always and.
Speaker 1: This can be life imitates again, like you never know.
Speaker 3: I was just like me slashed on as usual, like Hi,
Speaker 3: how are you welcome?
Speaker 4: Please like me? And also Killy, Yeah, this story in
Speaker 4: my life.
Speaker 2: Also Kelly's very intuitive about people and their character, and
Speaker 2: she goes off her gut and they feel like Kelly
Speaker 2: smelled our RATTOUI rat tattoo.
Speaker 4: A pot smoking ratui. Yeah, I just want her to
Speaker 4: know that they're gonna smell that.
Speaker 1: I guess there's a whole internet thread about she rolls
Speaker 1: it with one hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and those aren't her fingers, by the way, rolling that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I kind of remember reading that. Definitely not
Speaker 4: her fingers. Interesting. I did look at the nails.
Speaker 2: It had long nails, had long nails rolling it, and
Speaker 2: she didn't have long nails.
Speaker 4: Right, I remember that she didn't know how to roll it,
Speaker 4: so that someone had to do it, it is. That's interesting.
Speaker 4: They didn't consult you guys at all about that's done?
Speaker 4: Did they? Did you have chemistry reads with her? Or like?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? Like, that's weird that
Speaker 1: they just brought her in and dropped her in.
Speaker 4: Why we're just actors on this show.
Speaker 1: But don't you normally have chemistry tests.
Speaker 4: For another female lead?
Speaker 2: I don't, So it's not our.
Speaker 4: Place at all. We just did what we were told.
Speaker 2: It just was really weird watching Valerie in Brenda's bathroom
Speaker 2: like that, and then I just my overall gut instinct
Speaker 2: as a viewer watching it and being connected and attached
Speaker 2: to the original cast and to Brenda and to Brenda's bedroom.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't like what's happening. I don't
Speaker 2: like what my eyes are seeing. I don't understand this.
Speaker 4: I don't like it.
Speaker 2: It's upsetting me. And that she's now gonna be a
Speaker 2: bad girl instead of instead of a main character that
Speaker 2: we love. But do people come to love Valerie?
Speaker 4: Love to hate Vallerie's character? Yeah, love to hate?
Speaker 2: Was anybody ever like how they feel about Brenda?
Speaker 4: They? Did they ever feel that way about Valerie? Like
Speaker 4: after a while?
Speaker 1: No, because she doesn't stay. Also, she leaves too, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Leaves? She doesn't leave there at the end? What in
Speaker 4: season ten? What?
Speaker 1: I don't think she's there, Tiffany Thesen did how many episodes?
Speaker 4: You mean? I don't think she stays? So? And then
Speaker 4: they brought Yeah, oh Vanessa Marcel came in. That's what.
Speaker 4: She doesn't even stay that long. Why did she leave?
Speaker 4: Why did she leave? Like? Why did she leave? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well I wasn't there.
Speaker 3: I just you that doesn't make sense she would come
Speaker 3: in season five and then leave before season ten.
Speaker 4: She definitely leaves, you guys, And I'm just so.
Speaker 2: Used to the show like having the bad Girls be
Speaker 2: guest stars where they kind of come a upset the
Speaker 2: Apple car do their thing and then the group is affected.
Speaker 2: But this is a main character who now they're choosing
Speaker 2: to make a bad.
Speaker 3: Girl, but very like Aaron Spelling dynamic of it all,
Speaker 3: like with Dynasty doing like you know, Alexis Carrington Colby
Speaker 3: s Jone Collins. And then it worked on i mean
Speaker 3: Melow's place bringing in Heather Locklear as Amanda.
Speaker 4: So I guess they were like, oh, this is what happens,
Speaker 4: and we can now do that with this show because
Speaker 4: they've gotten older.
Speaker 2: I mean it worked, Amy before you mentioned the fashion
Speaker 2: the long dresses. Oh yeah, brings me to my question,
Speaker 2: why the heck with Kelly wearing Nana's dress to the nightclub.
Speaker 2: That was one of the ugliest dresses I've ever seen
Speaker 2: on Kelly Taylor, and then she wears it to a
Speaker 2: dance club.
Speaker 4: We had costume designer change up somewhere in the seasons.
Speaker 4: I'm wondering if it was season five, I feel like
Speaker 4: it was it because I just came in like season five.
Speaker 4: Maybe Molly Campbell. I don't mind. I'm not minding the fashion.
Speaker 4: Here's the part where we should probably do.
Speaker 2: Like our research before we do the podcast to say
Speaker 2: this is the season that Molly Campbell took over amartment.
Speaker 2: But that's not how.
Speaker 4: We roll you guys. We are in it with you
Speaker 4: moment to moment. Yeah, I like it that way.
Speaker 1: So I might be stupid, it said the Internet says
Speaker 1: she's on for six seasons five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
Speaker 1: That would mean she stayed till ten. But I have
Speaker 1: no memory of her being in the finale or she.
Speaker 4: Was at my wedding. Then am I stupid right now?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I guess I'm stupid for some reason. Now I just
Speaker 4: we drink together off screen. I thought she hotel where
Speaker 4: we feel on the wedding? Yes, is she not there?
Speaker 4: Or ten? No? She was there?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so easily convinced that when you
Speaker 3: told me she was, And I was like, okay.
Speaker 4: Because.
Speaker 1: Because Lindsey Price comes and there are so many people
Speaker 1: that I do not have a memory of her being
Speaker 1: at the wedding.
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Speaker 4: There was a funny point in the show when when
Speaker 4: I think Andrea was on the phone with somebody, maybe
Speaker 4: it was Dona, and she's feeding the baby and then
Speaker 4: the baby burps, did you guy, Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, that burp wasn't a baby.
Speaker 2: That was definitely like a gaffer's burp, like somebody off camera, belish,
Speaker 2: and they just decided to keep it.
Speaker 4: I'm so happy to notice that because I was like, wait,
Speaker 4: my daughter and I literally we just turned to each other.
Speaker 2: We're like, what is that?
Speaker 6: Wait.
Speaker 1: There's a few things in this episode that I love
Speaker 1: so much, one being our stars have sag cards, Oh
Speaker 1: my god. And the other one, oh, you're a combination
Speaker 1: of Mariah Carey, Heather Locklear, and Cindy Crawford. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: was trying to wrap my head around, like she's none
Speaker 1: of those things at all.
Speaker 4: What I care, no, nothing. Maybe Charles Rosen and Larry
Speaker 4: Mullen thought that's what she looked like, but.
Speaker 1: They obviously had to throw Heather lock there in there
Speaker 1: because of Aaron Spelling.
Speaker 2: But right, all Brelly, let's just call them Brelly. They're
Speaker 2: they're very comfortable with p d A. Apparently they're making
Speaker 2: out in the Domini. Is it weird for you, guys,
Speaker 2: because I would think it would be. Donna just accepts
Speaker 2: that Brandon and Kelly are a couple without batting an eye,
Speaker 2: and I don't know, it's weird for me to just
Speaker 2: see them make it out all the time.
Speaker 4: Now. It's kind of like Kelly and Dylan in front
Speaker 4: of Brenda as soon as they were like together at school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't weird other than Valerie with the stink eye,
Speaker 1: and I thought she was.
Speaker 4: Brandon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and in the bathroom I thought she was Wait
Speaker 1: are they related? Yeah, No, they're not related.
Speaker 4: Oh they're not.
Speaker 1: Well, she's family friends, they're not related.
Speaker 4: He's her first she's his first.
Speaker 1: Kiss, right right, right, So yeah, she's got it bad
Speaker 1: for him, and she's really not a fan of you, Jenny.
Speaker 4: Kelly, I see where this is going.
Speaker 1: She's all stink eye at you, and then she was
Speaker 1: all flirty over the toothbrush.
Speaker 4: And then she's gonna go on to take all of
Speaker 4: our men on this show. Damn it. I just remember
Speaker 4: she takes all of our men? No, she does? She
Speaker 4: take David? Does our men?
Speaker 2: Wait, Brandon hooks up with Valerie?
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 2: All of the guys hook up with her. Well, that
Speaker 2: doesn't make me like her very much.
Speaker 4: She does she take Steve too? Yeah? I think everybody
Speaker 4: she shared ish, well, they're gonna looks like it. I
Speaker 4: think every single boy on the show this is I can't.
Speaker 4: Let's keep a track, Let's keep.
Speaker 2: What about when they fear?
Speaker 4: She doesn't go for Jim Wall So I'm safe.
Speaker 1: The hug wigged me out, though there was like a
Speaker 1: weird hug you caugged too much.
Speaker 4: Too much? Oh, I didn't think. So, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think because I know she's so sort of dark
Speaker 1: evil or like.
Speaker 2: She's like a bad no good for everything.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'll take them, I'll date them for the
Speaker 1: credit cards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or I'll just put on a happy face and dance.
Speaker 1: Well, they wanted to bring her in, I'm assuming as
Speaker 1: the villain, right, but Tiffany Theson isn't really the villain type.
Speaker 4: She's sort of the fun nice.
Speaker 3: Girl, right, which is a great casting move because she
Speaker 3: was the opposite of Kelly Saved by the Bell funny.
Speaker 4: She was a Kelly Simlano maybe would have been better. Well,
Speaker 4: never know, guys, it's not how the future went. And
Speaker 4: I like Tiffany, but I don't I never would.
Speaker 1: I never really bonded with Valerie, and probably why I
Speaker 1: forgot her in the last season.
Speaker 4: I just didn't bond with her. Feel closer with Claire. Hmm.
Speaker 1: By the way, really, if I may interject with something crazy,
Speaker 1: which I hope Randy is on here, So you know
Speaker 1: the guy that comes to nine O two one, Oh,
Speaker 1: his name's out of my head right now, but I
Speaker 1: know he's I know he has the same manager you have.
Speaker 1: And he comes on nine O two one. Oh, Daniel Cosgrove.
Speaker 1: Daniel cosgro he plays and like the character he plays
Speaker 1: on Sex and the City. Oh my god, do you
Speaker 1: watch it?
Speaker 4: And just like that, I've.
Speaker 2: Pictured though that he that he's going to be on
Speaker 2: Oh now like the new just like that? Yeah, Randall, Randall, James,
Speaker 2: mister Hollywood, mister showviz.
Speaker 4: I'm here, Randy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great job if you played a part in him
Speaker 1: getting that part.
Speaker 4: But did you watch it?
Speaker 6: He loves taking jobs that are like kind of in
Speaker 6: a way make a fool of him. But he I
Speaker 6: don't know if you remember him on Billions where he
Speaker 6: did you ever watch Billions? He plays a recurring character.
Speaker 2: On that and his main.
Speaker 6: Debut on the show is him getting out of a
Speaker 6: pool from shot from behind, completely naked.
Speaker 1: And I do remember, of course I remember that. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Well this one's the same. Can we I'll
Speaker 1: just tell you guys two words and then I'll make
Speaker 1: you want to watch it. Okay, Henus Pump.
Speaker 2: Wait what about when when Brandon was he was saying
Speaker 2: goodbye to Kelly? Okay, right at the end, and then
Speaker 2: he goes back well, first of all, before your moment,
Speaker 2: he comes back to the car and you know, basically
Speaker 2: breaks up Steven val about to kiss, right, and he
Speaker 2: says something so terrible that you could never say today.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't even catch it, but I tell you
Speaker 1: about is someone going to ride in the front with me?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she changed my name to Jeeves because it's like that,
Speaker 4: the butler's name. He's yeah, isn't it like that?
Speaker 2: There's moments like that You're like, oh my god, things
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always the cringe, you guys.
Speaker 2: When Kelly walks gets up and walks into the beach
Speaker 2: apartment and look, here's something and looks back. I was scared.
Speaker 2: It was a bit scary because she was alone. She
Speaker 2: lives in that beach apartment by herself.
Speaker 4: At this moment, who do you think was coming? I
Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know. I was getting excited. Maybe
Speaker 4: a serial killer is coming on, Like things that are
Speaker 4: about to happen, I know, to Wan of Us, this
Speaker 4: is when it all starts happening.
Speaker 1: Like, but Dylan is so distress, he's so drunk, and
Speaker 1: he's so bad, and he's so hot.
Speaker 4: He's like all at the same time.
Speaker 2: Lifeguard hobo man, like I don't know, he's like.
Speaker 3: Say that again, you can't see like a yeah, he's
Speaker 3: like a hot lifeguard, I don't know, creeper, creeper.
Speaker 4: Yeah, edit out hobo.
Speaker 2: We didn't really talks like James, like a like a
Speaker 2: unhomed James Dean.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't talk about his like broke ass, Like
Speaker 1: now he's.
Speaker 10: So drunk and a mess and Hen and he has
Speaker 10: to sleep on the beach and we find out that
Speaker 10: he saw their mugshots, like when he calls the police,
Speaker 10: their pictures are in the mug book or whatever he
Speaker 10: called it, like and and you're just.
Speaker 2: Like like, oh my, I really heart Throb to bah outcare.
Speaker 4: And like is he fully broke? I don't know, but
Speaker 4: he looks real cute and his double denim.
Speaker 1: Also, I loved his editorial comments to his voicemails, like
Speaker 1: his answering machines going off. But he's like drunk on
Speaker 1: the couch commenting to each of the each of the messages.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh God, he's a mess.
Speaker 2: I would have liked to see him a little more
Speaker 2: over the edge, a little more drunk really a little
Speaker 2: more like he had just you know, gone off the
Speaker 2: deep end.
Speaker 4: Maybe I think. I don't know. But when virus leaves
Speaker 4: a message, do they have they have to pay her? Course,
Speaker 4: like just for that as a voiceover?
Speaker 1: God, jeez, unless your dad had some deal with her
Speaker 1: where he could just be like, can you do me
Speaker 1: a solid?
Speaker 2: He calls her, records it on his phone.
Speaker 4: I don't like backbone. I don't like dirty drunk Dylan.
Speaker 4: I do I kind of do.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I know that. I know that she
Speaker 3: gets she likes it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Brandon's cute. Maybe maybe Kelly will shave his
Speaker 2: face for him in a sexy bathroom scene in the
Speaker 2: next episode.
Speaker 4: That would be wonderful face that hair on his face?
Speaker 4: What do they call it? Go tea?
Speaker 3: Go tea is what they did on the calendar when
Speaker 3: the boys, like remember the boys did that calendar all
Speaker 3: of the boys in nine to two one hour for
Speaker 3: of course for the girls. Didn't someone draw like an
Speaker 3: evil like go tea on somebody afterwards?
Speaker 4: And he liked it, so he grew one comic book.
Speaker 4: I hope that goes away fast the same. I don't
Speaker 4: think we're alone in this feeling, thank god. But he's
Speaker 4: so I'm ready for I'm ready for Casper.
Speaker 1: Van Dian and Jamie Walters to show up for Donna.
Speaker 1: I'm ready for Donna to have someone.
Speaker 2: Because, yeah, why are you pining looking at David like
Speaker 2: that in the nightclub and after.
Speaker 4: A leave me alone? No one saw it? I did it.
Speaker 4: I did it. No one saw it.
Speaker 3: I told you I was fine, and then I walked
Speaker 3: away longingly looked at him.
Speaker 4: Fine.
Speaker 2: I just want to be there. I want Kelly to
Speaker 2: be there in that moment to like smack you to
Speaker 2: your senses.
Speaker 4: Cut it out.
Speaker 1: Ohone at the bar with like the long cord and
Speaker 1: she's like talking over the bar with the long cord.
Speaker 4: It's just like.
Speaker 2: What it was this episode?
Speaker 4: What do you guys rate it? I love it? Oh?
Speaker 2: I mean you didn't love it? Okay, so what do
Speaker 2: you what number do you give it?
Speaker 4: Nine point two? Yeah? My people are back. I love it,
Speaker 4: like I'm I go with a six? What sorry, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go with I'm gonna go with a six too,
Speaker 4: all right? Solidary, Oh my god? What what change? My
Speaker 4: are you guys talking? Not prepared for all this change
Speaker 4: and not handled correctly the change? Like yeah, like just
Speaker 4: I'm feeling left out to dry as a fan. Right now,
Speaker 4: I don't feel I can recover.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't have my feet's under me. No,
Speaker 4: I'm worried.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm not saying it's perfect.
Speaker 4: It's God its flaws, but it's still amazing. All Right,
Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1: It's juicy, and we're getting set up for a lot
Speaker 1: of juice. Like we're like Dylan's all a disaster and
Speaker 1: Kelly and Brandon and Valerie or pot smoking Valerie is
Speaker 1: going to stir up trouble and we got to figure
Speaker 1: out what's going on with Steve per usual Donna, Like
Speaker 1: it's just like.
Speaker 3: David's drowning in his crabs crabs? What what's happening?
Speaker 4: You tell us?
Speaker 1: Poor Andrea is going to have a boring storyline. But
Speaker 1: otherwise it's.
Speaker 4: Why because being a mom. Oh actually, I do forget
Speaker 4: about the one part that's gonna come. What what's gonna come?
Speaker 2: You already know we sort of some weird foundation for
Speaker 2: trouble in River City with Mark there just Jesse.
Speaker 4: Yeah he's the bartender.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're onto something, yeah you are. Yep, nothing can
Speaker 3: ever go right in somebody's life. No, she finally found happiness,
Speaker 3: had a baby, and something bad's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, well we'll see.
Speaker 4: It's very, very exciting. I will give you quite Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is your homework, you guys. Next episode
Speaker 2: is season five, episode two, under the Influence. Oh, I
Speaker 2: bet that's about Dylan.
Speaker 4: I think you're right, or is everyone under the influence
Speaker 4: of Valerie?
Speaker 2: Valerie, Kelly's not tell you that much, and I'm just
Speaker 2: you guys. I'm speaking as Kelly. This is not Jenny.
Speaker 1: No, we know Kelly doesn't like her just because of
Speaker 1: the right.
Speaker 4: I get it, and I'm just here to be liked.
Speaker 4: We'll see next week. Tory, I love sort young Tory.
Speaker 6: Please like me.
Speaker 4: We like you, we love you. Thank you, Bye, everybody,