Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Katty arm Strong.
Speaker 2: And Jattie and he Armstrong and Getty Strong.
Speaker 3: So that somebody yelling at protesters saying we love immigrants
Speaker 3: and you should to use stupid mf for once again
Speaker 3: as people always do. In fact, I'm about to have
Speaker 3: that in the story we're going to do from the
Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2: Quit conflating illegal and legal immigration.
Speaker 3: Have a grown up discussion, or I won't even engage
Speaker 3: with you unless you're going to point out that there's
Speaker 3: a difference, that there's two different things. I'm not talking
Speaker 3: to you. That's what everybody should say. That's what that's
Speaker 3: what every Republican should say when they go on those
Speaker 3: Sunday talk shows. Okay, I gotta stop.
Speaker 2: You're right there.
Speaker 3: If you're gonna pretend that we're talking about legal immigration
Speaker 3: when it's illegal or legal when it's legal, and keep
Speaker 3: going back and forth by using one word, I'm not
Speaker 3: having this discussion. If you would like to act like
Speaker 3: a grown up and have a distinction between the two things,
Speaker 3: we can engage. Something we've been saying going on three
Speaker 3: decades now in for years, it is astonished me the
Speaker 3: number of people who are willing to engage on the
Speaker 3: bizarre terms of the other side, Like you're describing what
Speaker 3: are you doing? Are you just a coward? Do you
Speaker 3: have no confidence in your own needs? Well, you know
Speaker 3: conclusions in ill acts. Say, make your argument. You you
Speaker 3: believe in illegal immigration, make your argument. Your argument sway
Speaker 3: me or sway the American people on why we need
Speaker 3: illegal immigration. But don't start with the Statue of liberty
Speaker 3: and we're all immigrants.
Speaker 2: And crap like that. Jesus, what are you well?
Speaker 3: And anybody who got backed up and stimied by that
Speaker 3: on our side of the aisle, you're an idiot.
Speaker 2: Get out of the way.
Speaker 3: And I don't know what to say. They invoked the
Speaker 3: Statue of liberty. They make a pretty good point. Okay,
Speaker 3: So we got into this yesterday and there's an update
Speaker 3: on the story in the Wall Street Journal. It's confusing.
Speaker 3: So Trump ran on deporting all illegals, and then polling
Speaker 3: showed two thirds of American wanted every non documented immigrant deported.
Speaker 3: Then Trump vows the biggest deportation program in world history.
Speaker 3: And then you got his guy Stephen Miller. One of
Speaker 3: his main advisors, who actually does want to deport everybody
Speaker 3: who's here illegally. And then they start last week or
Speaker 3: week before, as we all know, raids of farms and
Speaker 3: restaurants where they were grabbing people that were just here illegally,
Speaker 3: not with criminal records in all cases, and round them
Speaker 3: up to try to boot them out with the caveat
Speaker 3: that they are here illegally.
Speaker 2: That is the law.
Speaker 3: It's it's not insane to want to enforce the law.
Speaker 3: That's not crazy. It's just very disruptive. But anyway, let
Speaker 3: me read from the Wall Street journals. It's also not
Speaker 3: nearly as popular as you portray it. We quibble about
Speaker 3: this all the time. Those two thirds of people did
Speaker 3: not mean that.
Speaker 2: They just didn't know.
Speaker 3: It's like the flip of people take Trump seriously but
Speaker 3: or not literally but seriously, and it ought to be
Speaker 3: vice versus Stephen Miller.
Speaker 2: You need to take literally he wants to deport everybody.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 3: It's illegal to be here without documentation. It's illegal. So
Speaker 3: either come up with a new law or boot them out,
Speaker 3: is my position. My prevalence would be to come up
Speaker 3: with a new law. But you can't just decide, you know,
Speaker 3: and be disruptive. So we'll ignore this law, like you
Speaker 3: said yesterday, Which other laws we can we ignore? How
Speaker 3: about the tax law? I don't like some of the
Speaker 3: star I think some of them are really over the
Speaker 3: top wrong. Can we just yeah, I understand on principles,
Speaker 3: you can't do that.
Speaker 2: You shout. We've been doing it.
Speaker 3: For fifty years, three hundred and sixty five days a year,
Speaker 3: the rubbers meeting the road. At some point you got
Speaker 3: to you got to enforce the law or change the law.
Speaker 3: Two choices. Yeah, so maybe enforcing the law is a
Speaker 3: good way to be a what do you call that?
Speaker 3: Something mechanism? Force the issue, to force Congress to actually
Speaker 3: change the law, or people to start running.
Speaker 2: On changing the law. Nobody ever talks about it.
Speaker 3: Who's come out in the last couple of weeks with
Speaker 3: their the law they'd like to pass.
Speaker 2: I've had this written that my lawyers look over. This
Speaker 2: is what I think the law should be. Who's with me?
Speaker 3: I haven't heard a single person say that I made
Speaker 3: the joke last week that I was going to drop
Speaker 3: a sea bomb on the air.
Speaker 2: The sea words.
Speaker 3: You just can't ever say, Congress, How often do you
Speaker 3: hear Congress needs act in this discussion right now practically never.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna use up all my time before I get
Speaker 3: to this, because I thought it was damned interesting. When
Speaker 3: federal agents rated Glenn Valley Foods in Omaha, Nebraska, last Thursday,
Speaker 3: they arrested about seventy five of the meat processors workers, roughly.
Speaker 2: Half the production line.
Speaker 3: The following day, the plant was operating at fifteen percent
Speaker 3: capacity and a skeleton crew strained to fill orders. Chief
Speaker 3: executive Gary Rower can't see a future that doesn't include
Speaker 3: immigrant workers, immigrant walkers.
Speaker 2: Are they illegal? Are they illegal?
Speaker 3: God?
Speaker 2: Ganget. I don't know if I'm mad at the guy
Speaker 2: because did he say that. I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's not quotes around that Wall Street Journal. Did you
Speaker 3: just blur the line between legal and illegal? Of course
Speaker 3: they're pro.
Speaker 2: Open borders because they're pro big business. God. That makes
Speaker 2: me mad is the guy saying I can't see a
Speaker 2: future that doesn't.
Speaker 3: Include illegal immigration or these people should be made legal.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'll just get back to the story.
Speaker 3: The chief executive said he can't see a few that
Speaker 3: doesn't include immigrant workers. Without them, there wouldn't be an industry.
Speaker 3: So then they go through President Trump's aggressive deportation, and
Speaker 3: he's got people within his cabinet that actually want everybody
Speaker 3: booted out, and then there's people that don't want everybody
Speaker 3: booted out.
Speaker 2: So Trump, again, like he often does, compinying.
Speaker 3: Like he's a bystander or he's doing a talk radio
Speaker 3: show and it's not his administration, comments like Friday or Saturday,
Speaker 3: and says, we can't be booting out. You know, people
Speaker 3: have been here for years working hard. Can we I mean,
Speaker 3: that'd be very disruptive. It's your program here, the president,
Speaker 3: what do you want to Trump traveling just in a
Speaker 3: different form than past administrations have sent them up. But
Speaker 3: the Department of Homeland Security last week DHS directed immigration
Speaker 3: officers to pause arrests at farms, restaurants, and hotels, stressing
Speaker 3: that sweeps should focus on people here illegally of criminal backgrounds. Okay, fine,
Speaker 3: But at the same time, dh just appeared to walk
Speaker 3: back its own directive. I don't know if somebody wrote
Speaker 3: that without Christy Nomes's knowledge or something like that in
Speaker 3: a letter to Immigration and Customs enforcement leadership over the weekend.
Speaker 3: Homeland Security Secretary, that's a person in charge of that
Speaker 3: very organization. I was just mentioning that said, let's not
Speaker 3: deport people or just airworking. Christy Nomes doubled down on
Speaker 3: the administration's efforts to aport millions of people living in
Speaker 3: the country illegally. We must dramatically intensify arrest and remove
Speaker 3: all operations nationwide. This is non negotiable as a national priority, right, say,
Speaker 3: we'll plan accordingly. Is your department that just said the
Speaker 3: day before not to so where are.
Speaker 4: You on this?
Speaker 2: Or maybe she doesn't know where the president is on this.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's pretty clear to me what is happening.
Speaker 3: And I remember the first Trump administration was famously undisciplined
Speaker 3: in its messaging and like the coherence of the team,
Speaker 3: Trump's got a team of rivals to a large extent,
Speaker 3: and they all have access to social media and media
Speaker 3: leaks in a way that like Lincoln's team of rivals didn't. Plus,
Speaker 3: so you get conflicting messages coming out breaking news.
Speaker 2: Secretary Stewart did not tweet that's your breaking news. Yeah true.
Speaker 3: And the second thing is that Trump is more than
Speaker 3: willing to send a message to the business community. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we gotta go easy on the meat in the in
Speaker 3: the hotels and the agriculture.
Speaker 2: We gotta go easy on that. Then simultaneously truce out
Speaker 2: to the base.
Speaker 3: We're booting them all out, every single one of them.
Speaker 3: Pack your bags, folks, and everybody hears what they want
Speaker 3: to hear.
Speaker 2: Watch what they do, not what they say.
Speaker 3: Christinom went on to say, first she made sure her
Speaker 3: hair was cascading lovely around her shoulders, reglossed her swollen lips,
Speaker 3: and the lighting was okay, so she looked like she's
Speaker 3: on the cover of I don't know some fancy magazine.
Speaker 3: Ice agents will be judged every day by how many
Speaker 3: arrests you, your teammates, and your office are able to effectuate.
Speaker 2: Failure is not an option.
Speaker 3: I would take that as a thread at my job
Speaker 3: of like, if I don't have if I don't meet
Speaker 3: my goal numbers, I'm gonna get I'm gonna lose my job. Interestingly, though,
Speaker 3: she threads the needle in her next statement, if you
Speaker 3: were going to go there, go there. But she said,
Speaker 3: your workplace raids will remain a cornerstone of the President's
Speaker 3: deforportation plan. There will be no safe spaces for industries
Speaker 3: who harbor violent criminals. Wait a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3: That's different. That's threading the needle, or purposely try to
Speaker 3: undermine ICE's efforts. Well, what if I'm just running Joe's
Speaker 3: meatpacking plant and we just package up our delicious polk
Speaker 3: jobs with the help of some folks whose paperwork looks
Speaker 3: a little fishy, but they work hard in the nice people.
Speaker 3: I'm not harboring violent criminals, and I'm not undermining anyone.
Speaker 3: I think you should start booting out everybody. Just start
Speaker 3: booting out everybody, because it's the law.
Speaker 2: And you can until.
Speaker 3: Congress act, which might take a by the way, and
Speaker 3: I see what you're driving at now, enforce.
Speaker 2: The damn law.
Speaker 3: And if it's so disruptive in so many states that
Speaker 3: people are howling, and maybe Congress says, I suppose we
Speaker 3: better deal with this. Yeah, yeah, Maybe he could come
Speaker 3: out hand in hand with Chuck Schumer. That'd be a
Speaker 3: pu Corthy image. And Trump would say, look, my base
Speaker 3: won't let us pass serious immigration law, and Schumer says,
Speaker 3: neither will mine, and then we reckon with it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: So Trump was asked on the plane as he was
Speaker 3: flying back if there would still be exemptions on ice
Speaker 3: raids for certain industries, Trump said on Air Force one
Speaker 3: last night as he was flying back to the United States.
Speaker 3: Everyone is being looked at, but the bigger problem is
Speaker 3: the cities right now.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that answer means.
Speaker 3: So the Wall Street Journal has a little graph industries
Speaker 3: with the highest share of workers who are likely undocumented.
Speaker 2: You mean here illegally, you mean they're illegal immigrants.
Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal taking the language of the left to
Speaker 3: soften illegal immigration for obvious reasons in my mind. But landscaping,
Speaker 3: almost a fifth of landscapers are here illegally.
Speaker 2: Private households only assess. Yeah, I think they're undershooting lots.
Speaker 3: But private households said, be like nannies, and you know,
Speaker 3: whatever else help you're getting from. It's almost twenty percent
Speaker 3: services to buildings and dwellings. So that would be all
Speaker 3: the people doing all the maintenance around your big building
Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff. It's about eighteen percent.
Speaker 3: It looks like in this graph crop production. This has
Speaker 3: got to be low seventeen percent crop production. Maybe I
Speaker 3: don't know about the rest of the country, but in
Speaker 3: California it's sure.
Speaker 2: Got to be higher on it. Animals slaughtering and processing
Speaker 2: what you can get it. You have a better term
Speaker 2: for that. The meat the yo today, honey good killed
Speaker 2: about fifteen cows at job.
Speaker 3: That last one really struggled though. It's hard to get
Speaker 3: him down. Wait to go, dad, that looks like sixteen
Speaker 3: seventeen percent. I think those numbers are low too, but
Speaker 3: it's and I'm sorry, those those numbers were illegals.
Speaker 2: That's right because un document Yes, land of immigrants. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you're where are that?
Speaker 3: Give me your huddled masses and have him kill cows
Speaker 3: for a living. If we I'll tell you this, this
Speaker 3: will be my I'm giving myself the final word for me.
Speaker 3: If we go through. If we go through this moment
Speaker 3: without either enforcing the law or changing the law, it
Speaker 3: will never happen. And you read my mind, And we'll
Speaker 3: just have an underground brown working class that does stuff
Speaker 3: we don't want to do that we can exploit for
Speaker 3: lower wages and give him all the perks that you
Speaker 3: would get as a US citizen and uh and whatever.
Speaker 3: With the full support of the America's left, which is
Speaker 3: constantly shouting about equity and the rest of it.
Speaker 2: Yes, equity for all except for my maid, say the
Speaker 2: limousine liberals.
Speaker 3: Keeping in mind, while Trump was crowing about deporting everyone
Speaker 3: while he's running for president, he got half of Hispanic
Speaker 3: males to.
Speaker 2: Vote for him. Yeah, as a Republican candidate.
Speaker 1: Armstrong, the Armstrong and getting show.
Speaker 3: Douglas Murray, the fabulous British thinker, gave this speech. I
Speaker 3: believe it was thirteen years ago. He was right then,
Speaker 3: he is right. Now, Let's hit it, Michael.
Speaker 4: When Israel is pushed to the situation, it will be
Speaker 4: pushed to of having to believe they mean it. And
Speaker 4: when every bit of jiggery pokery behind the scenes runs out,
Speaker 4: when the un and distinguished figures have run out of
Speaker 4: time and Iran is about to produce his first bomb
Speaker 4: will strike, every single country, including this one, will condemn Israel.
Speaker 4: Everyone in the Middle East will condemn Israel. And they
Speaker 4: will go back to their homes and they will say
Speaker 4: in private, thank God for Israel. The Saudis, the Barralis,
Speaker 4: the Egyptians, the Libyans, the Lebanese, everybody will say thank
Speaker 4: God they did it, because nobody else would.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows Israel has the most at stake in preventing
Speaker 3: Iran from having nukes, and everybody's known for a very
Speaker 3: long time, as Murray put it so eloquently, that they
Speaker 3: would make sure there won't happen. And so everybody else
Speaker 3: had the lovely and still has the lovely luxury of
Speaker 3: saying where against violence and for diplomacy. Israel, with their
Speaker 3: violence in the attacks, we don't approve and then they
Speaker 3: go to their homes and say, thank god they did it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I saw a number of people over the week and
Speaker 3: say this really sets back the ability to negotiate. Actually,
Speaker 3: Ran Paul said that among other people here we were
Speaker 3: in the midst of negotiations in Israel, did this.
Speaker 2: This is not helpful at all. You're in your nuts. Wow, Wow,
Speaker 2: that is just delusional. Let's go roll on with mister Murray.
Speaker 4: The proposition being put before you tonight is that you
Speaker 4: have a choice between war.
Speaker 2: And an Iran with the bomb.
Speaker 4: You have a choice, as has been said before, between
Speaker 4: war and dishonor you'll choose to honor this evening and
Speaker 4: you'll get war. You have the choice between a war
Speaker 4: with a nuclear Iran or a war at some point
Speaker 4: with an Iran that is not nuclear, which you stop
Speaker 4: from ever being nuclear, and hope that in stopping that
Speaker 4: regime in embedding itself, you will give the Iranian people
Speaker 4: the best chance.
Speaker 2: They will have of overthrowing that regime.
Speaker 4: But as I say, thank God, this doesn't rely on
Speaker 4: you or any Europeans, because you've made the same mistake
Speaker 4: before and nobody should trust you to get it right
Speaker 4: this time.
Speaker 3: So I was in nineteen eighty one that Israel took
Speaker 3: out a nuclear facility. At that time, was it who
Speaker 3: was it? The Iraqis that were getting close to having
Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon, And it was Prime Minister Monachem Began
Speaker 3: at the time who made that call. And Reagan said
Speaker 3: that that was awful and just just like Douglas morilated,
Speaker 3: the whole world condemned it.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 3: Prime Minister Began after his office out of office, was
Speaker 3: given the Medal of Freedom by Dick Cheney years later
Speaker 3: because in reality, behind closed doors, we were happier than
Speaker 3: all that Israel did what had to be done. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm cynical enough to get how domestic politics influence the
Speaker 3: pronouncements you make about foreign relations, even if behind the
Speaker 3: scenes your actual policies are very different than the proud But.
Speaker 2: It's just I get sick of it, you know. I'm
Speaker 2: just it's it's so obvious.
Speaker 3: If it's obvious to Austin Douglas Murray, I mean, it's
Speaker 3: obvious to a lot of people.
Speaker 2: What's going on now.
Speaker 3: I understand why Mohammed Bien Solomon has to pretend for
Speaker 3: the quote unquote arab street. You remember when that was
Speaker 3: a popular term. Anyway, I get why he has to
Speaker 3: pretend to condemn it and the rest of it. But
Speaker 3: our leaders, please just so phony.
Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Setty The Armstrong and Getty Show,
Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 5: Forty percent of US high school students reported feeling said
Speaker 5: or hopeless in twenty twenty three, and twenty percent had
Speaker 5: seriously considered attempting suicide.
Speaker 3: I appreciated that Meet the Press on Sunday did not
Speaker 3: go with the usual news of the day, particularly around
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. They went with the crisis that we've talked
Speaker 3: about a lot and should be treated like a crisis.
Speaker 3: That people are lonelier than ever, young people are killing
Speaker 3: themselves and taking medications to deal with anxiety, and all of.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: We know all this stuff as being like a lead story,
Speaker 3: which it is, should be a lead story, the lead
Speaker 3: story every week.
Speaker 2: B this is what Trump did yesterday.
Speaker 3: For so cynical about these people, I wonder whether they're
Speaker 3: doing that for the right reason or if their ratings
Speaker 3: are just dropping off with never ending Trump hysteria. But anyway,
Speaker 3: back to the very, very important topics. Let's hear a
Speaker 3: little more from Christian Walker of Meet the Press, laying
Speaker 3: out some of the facts here.
Speaker 5: Two thirds of gen z report feelings of loneliness, and
Speaker 5: half of young adults report symptoms of anxiety and depression.
Speaker 5: Youth suicide rates are climbing. It is now one of
Speaker 5: the leading causes of death in adolescence and young adults.
Speaker 5: Almost one in five young adults report rarely or never
Speaker 5: receiving the social support they need. In our super connected times,
Speaker 5: over fifty five million US adults report frequent loneliness. The
Speaker 5: smartphones and social media apps that connect us to the
Speaker 5: world are also accelerating the crisis.
Speaker 2: That's one thing about this story.
Speaker 3: I feel like every single time we quickly get to smartphones,
Speaker 3: social media and everybody's aware of this already, there's a
Speaker 3: lot like there's not like the next sentence or the
Speaker 3: next whatever comes after that, So we should what don't
Speaker 3: make it? Have Superman fly around the world real really
Speaker 3: fast and turn back time to be four smartphones.
Speaker 2: If that were possible, I'd be all for it.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm trying to remember there was a great phrase
Speaker 3: by Caitlin Flannagan I think, who wrote that we're drowning
Speaker 3: in the stuff.
Speaker 2: It's killing us, but we like it under the water. Ah,
Speaker 2: that's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Now, combining a couple of things that are related and
Speaker 3: not related, I guess. So this Netflix show Adolescents that's
Speaker 3: getting a tremendous amount of attention. It's already got one
Speaker 3: hundred and fourteen million views, which is a lot compared
Speaker 3: to like regular TV shows. It's based on a horrifying
Speaker 3: story of a middle schooler boy who murdered his classmate girl.
Speaker 3: And one of the reasons it's getting a fair amount
Speaker 3: of attention by the New York Times, and Gavin Newsom
Speaker 3: talked about how he had to turn it off as
Speaker 3: horrifying is because they present a lot of it as
Speaker 3: right wing, toxic masculinity that is caught on on social
Speaker 3: media and the Tate Brothers and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: But and it goes too far all of that stuff
Speaker 3: is true, but it leaves out, you know, there's plenty
Speaker 3: on all sides of what's wrong with social media and
Speaker 3: what it's doing to people and their worldviews, especially young men.
Speaker 3: And then this story that also fits into it, I think,
Speaker 3: is this thing. It became a TikTok craze, but the
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of truth in it. It's
Speaker 3: the idea of men calling each other at night and saying, hey,
Speaker 3: just want to say good night to you. You know
Speaker 3: you're a good friend, and saying good night. And I
Speaker 3: thought that's because that's a thing that usually gets taken
Speaker 3: care of by having a girlfriend or wife or boyfriend
Speaker 3: or husband if you're gay, but you have a relationship
Speaker 3: of somebody that's gonna text you goodnight, call you good night,
Speaker 3: or is in bed next to you, and so many
Speaker 3: people don't. Now it was kind of presented as like
Speaker 3: a joke, but I could see how that could be
Speaker 3: a thing. I'm not gonna do it, but I can
Speaker 3: see how that could be a thing because you're lacking
Speaker 3: that in your life. Nobody at the end of the
Speaker 3: day that says, yeah, thinking about you, goodnight, miss you,
Speaker 3: something like that. Yeah, these are very troubling developments. I'm
Speaker 3: struck by and I'm trying to find the right words.
Speaker 3: How much of this stuff is antiseptic? Is the closest
Speaker 3: I'm getting. What I'm what I'm driving at is online interaction,
Speaker 3: including everything that we've described so far. And you're gonna
Speaker 3: make fun of this, but go ahead. First day, laugh
Speaker 3: at you, Then they laugh at you more, then they
Speaker 3: really really laugh at you.
Speaker 2: But then the Hailey, who's a genius.
Speaker 3: I think that's how it ends anyway, an online relationship, porn,
Speaker 3: social media, online quote unquote friends. I remember railing about
Speaker 3: the term friends. Yeah, when Facebook first caught on, I
Speaker 3: was ahead of my time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the porn chick you're looking at is not going
Speaker 3: to text you miss you goodnight at the end of
Speaker 3: the day.
Speaker 2: But here's what just dawned on me is you're going
Speaker 2: through these things.
Speaker 3: All of those quote unquote relationships or being with those people.
Speaker 3: They have no smell, they have no taste, they have
Speaker 3: no feelings, physical sensation until the love bots come along
Speaker 3: and the rest of it. They are incredibly antiseptic. They
Speaker 3: and they lack all of the like like downside, all right,
Speaker 3: so you're you're you're with a girl. Maybe she's got
Speaker 3: bad breath. Porn doesn't have bad breath, for instance. It
Speaker 3: all is so lacking in the rough and tumble of
Speaker 3: real life that I think people can no longer tolerate
Speaker 3: the rough and tumble of real life of a lover
Speaker 3: who's occasionally insensitive or has bad breath, or is sweating
Speaker 3: from the gym or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and friends who annoy you and stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if those are the examples that are
Speaker 2: keeping people.
Speaker 3: I think it's the but it's easy, it's all so yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's the emotional effort is a is a problem.
Speaker 2: I've seen this with my own eyes, and it horrifies me.
Speaker 3: They like draw straws to see who's gonna call to
Speaker 3: order the pizza because it's so intimidating that crowd's not
Speaker 3: going to ask somebody out and make the emotional risk
Speaker 3: that is getting into her relationship.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think pretty.
Speaker 3: Clearly true, or fight through the inevitable part of the
Speaker 3: relationship where you realize, Okay, this person is fully human
Speaker 3: and has flaws and annoys me at times, and we
Speaker 3: are sometimes we're going to have to do stuff that
Speaker 3: they want to do and not just stuff I want
Speaker 3: to do. I think that's a big part of it.
Speaker 3: To go back a second, and I don't want to
Speaker 3: get a hung up on this, because the point is
Speaker 3: not any of this. The whole point is not any
Speaker 3: of the sex stuff. But apparently, because I've read about this,
Speaker 3: I think I saw on the New York Post, you can,
Speaker 3: like a lot of these only fans women, you can
Speaker 3: get some sort of set up with them where they
Speaker 3: text you throughout the day how's your day going? And
Speaker 3: text you at night to fulfill that particular desire. That
Speaker 3: desire is strong enough that dudes are not doing it
Speaker 3: with each other, at least according to a TikTok trend.
Speaker 3: You know, just thinking of you good night.
Speaker 2: You can pay somebody to do that.
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 3: Look, I can't imagine getting any satisfaction from that whatsoever. Hey,
Speaker 3: you've got to delude yourself. You'd have to delude yourself.
Speaker 3: The person I'm paying just texted me to say good night.
Speaker 2: Hi, good night everybody. John Fetterman, he's mine. Yeah. God,
Speaker 2: that is horrifying. But I had another probin.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 3: So, the lead on Meet the Press was the Surgeon
Speaker 3: General saying a while back that we have a loneliness epidemic.
Speaker 3: It's cutting years off people's lives. It's it's a leading
Speaker 3: killer because because it causes all kinds of different problems.
Speaker 3: So do you think it's just flat loneliness because.
Speaker 2: Of all the stuff we've just described.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a vicious circle of loneliness for
Speaker 3: the reasons we've been discussing.
Speaker 2: You have this antiseptic.
Speaker 3: Simulacrum, a foe relationship with various people from you know,
Speaker 3: and that you have your OnlyFans girl text you nice,
Speaker 3: sweet thinking of you, and then you begin to think,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's the stripper saying, oh, you're handsome
Speaker 3: on steroids, and people are primed to actually believe it.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, falling in love with a damn robot.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's awful.
Speaker 3: So if we're at the loneliness epidemic right when AI
Speaker 3: is taking off, and like Only Fans has only been
Speaker 3: around for a few years, it just seems like the
Speaker 3: timing is the the cures are coming.
Speaker 2: Cures.
Speaker 3: I guess I'll use my finger quote, because it's not
Speaker 3: curing the underlying problem. But I do know the ointment
Speaker 3: or the sav for the problem. They are getting They're
Speaker 3: getting better. Yeah, the band aids over the gaping wound
Speaker 3: are getting better. I would go with, oh, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: here's a really nice band aid. Look, it completely covers
Speaker 3: the gaping wound. Yeah, I'm telling you the human kind
Speaker 3: is doomed.
Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Showy or Jack your show podcasts
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Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3: I gotta handle this very delicately. Okay, I want to
Speaker 3: handle it delicately for this very nice mom who sent
Speaker 3: us a text. I will switch into delicate mode on
Speaker 3: your advice, combined with harsh mode I think is necessary.
Speaker 2: So this this, well, this is why we can't have
Speaker 2: nice things.
Speaker 3: As the cliche goes, this is why demagoguing issues in
Speaker 3: politics works.
Speaker 2: I guess so.
Speaker 3: An hour three, if you didn't hear it, gets the
Speaker 3: podcast Armstrong and Getdy on demand. Joe got into the
Speaker 3: whole big beautiful bill medicaid thing. We're getting ripped off
Speaker 3: like crazy with Medicaid. We're gonna get into more of
Speaker 3: it tomorrow with Craig Gottwaltsho was an expert in this.
Speaker 3: But we're getting ripped off like crazy, all kinds of
Speaker 3: healthy people. You're paying for their health care and other
Speaker 3: stuff for no good reason whatsoever other than then nobody
Speaker 3: keeps track of this sort of thing.
Speaker 2: And because it buys votes, that's that's like the entire
Speaker 2: reason you're paying for it.
Speaker 3: And Phil Graham, former senator from from Texas from back
Speaker 3: in the day, tried to run for president once but
Speaker 3: he's way too smart to be president, has a PhD
Speaker 3: in economics, wrote a piece about how, no, this is
Speaker 3: where the money is. You talk about social Security, you know,
Speaker 3: and cutbacks and everything like, No, the money where we
Speaker 3: need to do something is in Medicaid. So we get
Speaker 3: this text, Hey, I have a daughter who's disabled and
Speaker 3: on Medicaid and Social Security, and I get to you
Speaker 3: guys who are trying to get people riled up and
Speaker 3: listening to your show, and I'm a strong Republican. But
Speaker 3: what you're missing is and then she lays out the
Speaker 3: story of how her disabled daughter can't take care of
Speaker 3: herself at all, never.
Speaker 2: Will be able to in her life.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable, what you're dealing with, I can't even imagine, And
Speaker 3: how she needs that money and we don't have the
Speaker 3: courage to call her back and talk to her and
Speaker 3: get the facts on this story about her disabled daughter
Speaker 3: and how much she needs Medicaid. There will not be
Speaker 3: a single disabled person affected in any way by the
Speaker 3: proposed cuts, not one. And there isn't a single person
Speaker 3: us or anybody else arguing for someone like your daughter
Speaker 3: having their money cut.
Speaker 2: No, I would argue strenuously one hundred and eighty degrees
Speaker 2: in the other direction.
Speaker 3: This is why you demogogue these issues though, because it's
Speaker 3: sure that yes, her poor daughter and she will be
Speaker 3: left high and drive by the mean Republicans. That is
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty degrees opposite of the truth you said.
Speaker 3: They we've convinced her. We convinced her even with you
Speaker 3: only talking about the scammers.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Her takeaway was like you and I are in favor
Speaker 3: of cutting her daughter's money. I mean, if that's the
Speaker 3: way it lands, no wonder politicians don't come with on
Speaker 3: one hundred miles of even trying to stop they scumbag liars.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, it's unfortunate, isn't it.
Speaker 3: It is highly unfortunate, you could say, And we've seen this,
Speaker 3: We've been doing this for a long time. You can,
Speaker 3: as a politician, stand up in front of a crowd
Speaker 3: and say, look, nobody here currently getting Social Security that's
Speaker 3: over the age of sixty five will.
Speaker 2: See any a dime of that cut in their lifetime.
Speaker 3: But and then everything after the butt gets portrayed as you,
Speaker 3: as an old person, are gonna starve, right, And it's
Speaker 3: just there's just no getting around it, apparently, right, Right, man.
Speaker 2: I feel for you, ma'am. What in a rough situation
Speaker 2: you're in doing God's work, trying to deal with that.
Speaker 3: But nobody us or anybody is suggesting cutting the program
Speaker 3: for people like your daughter.
Speaker 2: Nobody, right, We would have more money for people like
Speaker 2: your daughter if the freaking healthy.
Speaker 3: Twenty eight year old dude playing video games and laughing
Speaker 3: at us wasn't getting all his stuff.
Speaker 2: Paid for, right. I don't know what you do with
Speaker 2: the reality of this. I think if you were to
Speaker 2: sit down with Carl Rove and.
Speaker 3: James Carvill I'm trying to be by party, maybe Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, Charles Crouthammer, Jesus and John Wayne, they would
Speaker 3: that's quite a crowd, they would say, Jackie boy, Joseph,
Speaker 3: here's the story.
Speaker 2: That's what politics is. Grow up.
Speaker 3: You talk about trying to frighten or entice the herd
Speaker 3: in one direction or another, as if you're too good
Speaker 3: and too smart for that.
Speaker 2: That's politics.
Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying, that politicians go out there
Speaker 3: and try to frighten you on this stuff. What I'm
Speaker 3: concerned about is we made it clear we weren't trying.
Speaker 3: We weren't claiming they're coming for your to take your
Speaker 3: disabled daughter's Medicare.
Speaker 2: Politicians will say that sort of stuff Medicaid. Yeah, we weren't.
Speaker 3: We were saying the opposite, and it's still landed as
Speaker 3: if we were. That's what troubles me. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: that's squarely in the department of things I can't do
Speaker 3: anything about. It's striking. I totally get your being troubled
Speaker 3: by that. Like I said, if you're a politician, you
Speaker 3: get up on stage and make it clear that I'm
Speaker 3: not interested in cutting your social security, But people walk
Speaker 3: out of the room thinking they're going to take my
Speaker 3: social security. Yeah, well, that we're done here, then I
Speaker 3: guess yes. As a as a country you mean yes,
Speaker 3: or as a system of government people, well, right, self
Speaker 3: governance doesn't work, That's my point.
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, Well, the great Scottish philosopher what's his face?
Speaker 3: Uh with the you know, the republic will last only
Speaker 3: until the populace realizes they can vote themselves money from
Speaker 3: the treasury. And and what he didn't suspect is that,
Speaker 3: or maybe he did, was that there that politicians would
Speaker 3: be able to convince virtually all of the population that
Speaker 3: any effort to rein that in was indeed an attack
Speaker 3: on them and their well being.
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, it just it doesn't work. Uh. The great.
Speaker 3: You know, overarching Joe Getty principle, there are actually several
Speaker 3: of them, many of them contradict each other, is that
Speaker 3: all systems can last only until those who had gained
Speaker 3: the system when over those who would protect a system.
Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, the constant battle between hackers
Speaker 3: and cybersecurity experts. There comes a point in a like
Speaker 3: a governmental system where a combination of manipulating the voters
Speaker 3: and then manipulating the systems behind the scenes becomes so
Speaker 3: sophisticated that the immune system of democracy is insufficient. It's
Speaker 3: like a septic infection in the bloodstream. So monarchy now,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm old you all figured out.
Speaker 2: Good luck if you're old already.
Speaker 3: Nobody is going to touch your Social Security period. No,
Speaker 3: if you are actually disabled, nobody's going to take your
Speaker 3: money period. Nobody wants to. Nobody's even suggested it, right,
Speaker 3: and yet it is the easiest cell in the world.
Speaker 3: If any Republicans say we're gonna rain in Medicaid waste
Speaker 3: fraud abuse, they're gonna come take the money out of
Speaker 3: the mouths of your disabled children, and people believe them.
Speaker 2: So what are you gonna do. I'm in an accepting
Speaker 2: mood today.
Speaker 3: I have accepted it, probably because I'm excited about my
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Speaker 2: It cans.
Speaker 3: We need an animal, though maybe the turkey is the
Speaker 3: donkey and the elephant, or taken clearly.
Speaker 2: Maybe we have the turkey. Has heard in a previous
Speaker 2: clip which Ben Franklin wanted to be our national.
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