WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Tuesday  Hour Three

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Katty arm Strong.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jattie and he Armstrong and Getty Strong.

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<v Speaker 3>So that somebody yelling at protesters saying we love immigrants

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<v Speaker 3>and you should to use stupid mf for once again

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<v Speaker 3>as people always do. In fact, I'm about to have

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<v Speaker 3>that in the story we're going to do from the

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<v Speaker 3>Wall Street Journal.

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<v Speaker 2>Quit conflating illegal and legal immigration.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a grown up discussion, or I won't even engage

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<v Speaker 3>with you unless you're going to point out that there's

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<v Speaker 3>a difference, that there's two different things. I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 3>to you. That's what everybody should say. That's what that's

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<v Speaker 3>what every Republican should say when they go on those

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday talk shows. Okay, I gotta stop.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right there.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're gonna pretend that we're talking about legal immigration

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<v Speaker 3>when it's illegal or legal when it's legal, and keep

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<v Speaker 3>going back and forth by using one word, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>having this discussion. If you would like to act like

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<v Speaker 3>a grown up and have a distinction between the two things,

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<v Speaker 3>we can engage. Something we've been saying going on three

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<v Speaker 3>decades now in for years, it is astonished me the

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<v Speaker 3>number of people who are willing to engage on the

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<v Speaker 3>bizarre terms of the other side, Like you're describing what

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<v Speaker 3>are you doing? Are you just a coward? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>have no confidence in your own needs? Well, you know

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<v Speaker 3>conclusions in ill acts. Say, make your argument. You you

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<v Speaker 3>believe in illegal immigration, make your argument. Your argument sway

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<v Speaker 3>me or sway the American people on why we need

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<v Speaker 3>illegal immigration. But don't start with the Statue of liberty

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<v Speaker 3>and we're all immigrants.

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<v Speaker 2>And crap like that. Jesus, what are you well?

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<v Speaker 3>And anybody who got backed up and stimied by that

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<v Speaker 3>on our side of the aisle, you're an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>Get out of the way.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know what to say. They invoked the

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<v Speaker 3>Statue of liberty. They make a pretty good point. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So we got into this yesterday and there's an update

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<v Speaker 3>on the story in the Wall Street Journal. It's confusing.

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<v Speaker 3>So Trump ran on deporting all illegals, and then polling

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<v Speaker 3>showed two thirds of American wanted every non documented immigrant deported.

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<v Speaker 3>Then Trump vows the biggest deportation program in world history.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you got his guy Stephen Miller. One of

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<v Speaker 3>his main advisors, who actually does want to deport everybody

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<v Speaker 3>who's here illegally. And then they start last week or

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<v Speaker 3>week before, as we all know, raids of farms and

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<v Speaker 3>restaurants where they were grabbing people that were just here illegally,

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<v Speaker 3>not with criminal records in all cases, and round them

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<v Speaker 3>up to try to boot them out with the caveat

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<v Speaker 3>that they are here illegally.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the law.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's not insane to want to enforce the law.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not crazy. It's just very disruptive. But anyway, let

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<v Speaker 3>me read from the Wall Street journals. It's also not

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<v Speaker 3>nearly as popular as you portray it. We quibble about

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<v Speaker 3>this all the time. Those two thirds of people did

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<v Speaker 3>not mean that.

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<v Speaker 2>They just didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the flip of people take Trump seriously but

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<v Speaker 3>or not literally but seriously, and it ought to be

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<v Speaker 3>vice versus Stephen Miller.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to take literally he wants to deport everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>It's illegal to be here without documentation. It's illegal. So

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<v Speaker 3>either come up with a new law or boot them out,

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<v Speaker 3>is my position. My prevalence would be to come up

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<v Speaker 3>with a new law. But you can't just decide, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and be disruptive. So we'll ignore this law, like you

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<v Speaker 3>said yesterday, Which other laws we can we ignore? How

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<v Speaker 3>about the tax law? I don't like some of the

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<v Speaker 3>star I think some of them are really over the

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<v Speaker 3>top wrong. Can we just yeah, I understand on principles,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You shout. We've been doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>For fifty years, three hundred and sixty five days a year,

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<v Speaker 3>the rubbers meeting the road. At some point you got

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<v Speaker 3>to you got to enforce the law or change the law.

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<v Speaker 3>Two choices. Yeah, so maybe enforcing the law is a

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<v Speaker 3>good way to be a what do you call that?

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<v Speaker 3>Something mechanism? Force the issue, to force Congress to actually

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<v Speaker 3>change the law, or people to start running.

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<v Speaker 2>On changing the law. Nobody ever talks about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's come out in the last couple of weeks with

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<v Speaker 3>their the law they'd like to pass.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had this written that my lawyers look over. This

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<v Speaker 2>is what I think the law should be. Who's with me?

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't heard a single person say that I made

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<v Speaker 3>the joke last week that I was going to drop

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<v Speaker 3>a sea bomb on the air.

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<v Speaker 2>The sea words.

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<v Speaker 3>You just can't ever say, Congress, How often do you

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<v Speaker 3>hear Congress needs act in this discussion right now practically never.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna use up all my time before I get

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<v Speaker 3>to this, because I thought it was damned interesting. When

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<v Speaker 3>federal agents rated Glenn Valley Foods in Omaha, Nebraska, last Thursday,

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<v Speaker 3>they arrested about seventy five of the meat processors workers, roughly.

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<v Speaker 2>Half the production line.

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<v Speaker 3>The following day, the plant was operating at fifteen percent

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<v Speaker 3>capacity and a skeleton crew strained to fill orders. Chief

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<v Speaker 3>executive Gary Rower can't see a future that doesn't include

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<v Speaker 3>immigrant workers, immigrant walkers.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they illegal? Are they illegal?

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<v Speaker 3>God?

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<v Speaker 2>Ganget. I don't know if I'm mad at the guy

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<v Speaker 2>because did he say that. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not quotes around that Wall Street Journal. Did you

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<v Speaker 3>just blur the line between legal and illegal? Of course

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<v Speaker 3>they're pro.

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<v Speaker 2>Open borders because they're pro big business. God. That makes

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<v Speaker 2>me mad is the guy saying I can't see a

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<v Speaker 2>future that doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Include illegal immigration or these people should be made legal.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I'll just get back to the story.

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<v Speaker 3>The chief executive said he can't see a few that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't include immigrant workers. Without them, there wouldn't be an industry.

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<v Speaker 3>So then they go through President Trump's aggressive deportation, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's got people within his cabinet that actually want everybody

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<v Speaker 3>booted out, and then there's people that don't want everybody

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<v Speaker 3>booted out.

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<v Speaker 2>So Trump, again, like he often does, compinying.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's a bystander or he's doing a talk radio

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<v Speaker 3>show and it's not his administration, comments like Friday or Saturday,

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<v Speaker 3>and says, we can't be booting out. You know, people

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<v Speaker 3>have been here for years working hard. Can we I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that'd be very disruptive. It's your program here, the president,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you want to Trump traveling just in a

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<v Speaker 3>different form than past administrations have sent them up. But

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<v Speaker 3>the Department of Homeland Security last week DHS directed immigration

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<v Speaker 3>officers to pause arrests at farms, restaurants, and hotels, stressing

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<v Speaker 3>that sweeps should focus on people here illegally of criminal backgrounds. Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, dh just appeared to walk

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<v Speaker 3>back its own directive. I don't know if somebody wrote

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<v Speaker 3>that without Christy Nomes's knowledge or something like that in

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<v Speaker 3>a letter to Immigration and Customs enforcement leadership over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Homeland Security Secretary, that's a person in charge of that

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<v Speaker 3>very organization. I was just mentioning that said, let's not

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<v Speaker 3>deport people or just airworking. Christy Nomes doubled down on

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<v Speaker 3>the administration's efforts to aport millions of people living in

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<v Speaker 3>the country illegally. We must dramatically intensify arrest and remove

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<v Speaker 3>all operations nationwide. This is non negotiable as a national priority, right, say,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll plan accordingly. Is your department that just said the

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<v Speaker 3>day before not to so where are.

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<v Speaker 4>You on this?

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe she doesn't know where the president is on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's pretty clear to me what is happening.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember the first Trump administration was famously undisciplined

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<v Speaker 3>in its messaging and like the coherence of the team,

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's got a team of rivals to a large extent,

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<v Speaker 3>and they all have access to social media and media

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<v Speaker 3>leaks in a way that like Lincoln's team of rivals didn't. Plus,

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<v Speaker 3>so you get conflicting messages coming out breaking news.

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary Stewart did not tweet that's your breaking news. Yeah true.

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<v Speaker 3>And the second thing is that Trump is more than

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<v Speaker 3>willing to send a message to the business community. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we gotta go easy on the meat in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the hotels and the agriculture.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta go easy on that. Then simultaneously truce out

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<v Speaker 2>to the base.

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<v Speaker 3>We're booting them all out, every single one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Pack your bags, folks, and everybody hears what they want

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<v Speaker 3>to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch what they do, not what they say.

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<v Speaker 3>Christinom went on to say, first she made sure her

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<v Speaker 3>hair was cascading lovely around her shoulders, reglossed her swollen lips,

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<v Speaker 3>and the lighting was okay, so she looked like she's

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<v Speaker 3>on the cover of I don't know some fancy magazine.

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<v Speaker 3>Ice agents will be judged every day by how many

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<v Speaker 3>arrests you, your teammates, and your office are able to effectuate.

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<v Speaker 2>Failure is not an option.

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<v Speaker 3>I would take that as a thread at my job

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<v Speaker 3>of like, if I don't have if I don't meet

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<v Speaker 3>my goal numbers, I'm gonna get I'm gonna lose my job. Interestingly, though,

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<v Speaker 3>she threads the needle in her next statement, if you

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<v Speaker 3>were going to go there, go there. But she said,

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<v Speaker 3>your workplace raids will remain a cornerstone of the President's

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<v Speaker 3>deforportation plan. There will be no safe spaces for industries

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<v Speaker 3>who harbor violent criminals. Wait a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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<v Speaker 3>That's different. That's threading the needle, or purposely try to

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<v Speaker 3>undermine ICE's efforts. Well, what if I'm just running Joe's

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<v Speaker 3>meatpacking plant and we just package up our delicious polk

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<v Speaker 3>jobs with the help of some folks whose paperwork looks

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<v Speaker 3>a little fishy, but they work hard in the nice people.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not harboring violent criminals, and I'm not undermining anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you should start booting out everybody. Just start

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<v Speaker 3>booting out everybody, because it's the law.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can until.

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<v Speaker 3>Congress act, which might take a by the way, and

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<v Speaker 3>I see what you're driving at now, enforce.

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<v Speaker 2>The damn law.

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<v Speaker 3>And if it's so disruptive in so many states that

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<v Speaker 3>people are howling, and maybe Congress says, I suppose we

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<v Speaker 3>better deal with this. Yeah, yeah, Maybe he could come

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<v Speaker 3>out hand in hand with Chuck Schumer. That'd be a

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<v Speaker 3>pu Corthy image. And Trump would say, look, my base

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<v Speaker 3>won't let us pass serious immigration law, and Schumer says,

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<v Speaker 3>neither will mine, and then we reckon with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>So Trump was asked on the plane as he was

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<v Speaker 3>flying back if there would still be exemptions on ice

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<v Speaker 3>raids for certain industries, Trump said on Air Force one

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<v Speaker 3>last night as he was flying back to the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone is being looked at, but the bigger problem is

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<v Speaker 3>the cities right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that answer means.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Wall Street Journal has a little graph industries

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<v Speaker 3>with the highest share of workers who are likely undocumented.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean here illegally, you mean they're illegal immigrants.

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<v Speaker 3>Wall Street Journal taking the language of the left to

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<v Speaker 3>soften illegal immigration for obvious reasons in my mind. But landscaping,

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<v Speaker 3>almost a fifth of landscapers are here illegally.

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<v Speaker 2>Private households only assess. Yeah, I think they're undershooting lots.

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<v Speaker 3>But private households said, be like nannies, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever else help you're getting from. It's almost twenty percent

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<v Speaker 3>services to buildings and dwellings. So that would be all

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<v Speaker 3>the people doing all the maintenance around your big building

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<v Speaker 3>and all that sort of stuff. It's about eighteen percent.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like in this graph crop production. This has

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<v Speaker 3>got to be low seventeen percent crop production. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know about the rest of the country, but in

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<v Speaker 3>California it's sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to be higher on it. Animals slaughtering and processing

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<v Speaker 2>what you can get it. You have a better term

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<v Speaker 2>for that. The meat the yo today, honey good killed

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<v Speaker 2>about fifteen cows at job.

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<v Speaker 3>That last one really struggled though. It's hard to get

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<v Speaker 3>him down. Wait to go, dad, that looks like sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen percent. I think those numbers are low too, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's and I'm sorry, those those numbers were illegals.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right because un document Yes, land of immigrants. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you're where are that?

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<v Speaker 3>Give me your huddled masses and have him kill cows

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<v Speaker 3>for a living. If we I'll tell you this, this

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<v Speaker 3>will be my I'm giving myself the final word for me.

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<v Speaker 3>If we go through. If we go through this moment

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<v Speaker 3>without either enforcing the law or changing the law, it

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<v Speaker 3>will never happen. And you read my mind, And we'll

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<v Speaker 3>just have an underground brown working class that does stuff

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<v Speaker 3>we don't want to do that we can exploit for

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<v Speaker 3>lower wages and give him all the perks that you

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<v Speaker 3>would get as a US citizen and uh and whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>With the full support of the America's left, which is

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<v Speaker 3>constantly shouting about equity and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, equity for all except for my maid, say the

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<v Speaker 2>limousine liberals.

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<v Speaker 3>Keeping in mind, while Trump was crowing about deporting everyone

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<v Speaker 3>while he's running for president, he got half of Hispanic

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<v Speaker 3>males to.

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<v Speaker 2>Vote for him. Yeah, as a Republican candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong, the Armstrong and getting show.

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<v Speaker 3>Douglas Murray, the fabulous British thinker, gave this speech. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe it was thirteen years ago. He was right then,

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<v Speaker 3>he is right. Now, Let's hit it, Michael.

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<v Speaker 4>When Israel is pushed to the situation, it will be

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<v Speaker 4>pushed to of having to believe they mean it. And

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<v Speaker 4>when every bit of jiggery pokery behind the scenes runs out,

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<v Speaker 4>when the un and distinguished figures have run out of

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<v Speaker 4>time and Iran is about to produce his first bomb

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<v Speaker 4>will strike, every single country, including this one, will condemn Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone in the Middle East will condemn Israel. And they

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<v Speaker 4>will go back to their homes and they will say

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<v Speaker 4>in private, thank God for Israel. The Saudis, the Barralis,

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<v Speaker 4>the Egyptians, the Libyans, the Lebanese, everybody will say thank

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<v Speaker 4>God they did it, because nobody else would.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody knows Israel has the most at stake in preventing

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<v Speaker 3>Iran from having nukes, and everybody's known for a very

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<v Speaker 3>long time, as Murray put it so eloquently, that they

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<v Speaker 3>would make sure there won't happen. And so everybody else

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<v Speaker 3>had the lovely and still has the lovely luxury of

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<v Speaker 3>saying where against violence and for diplomacy. Israel, with their

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<v Speaker 3>violence in the attacks, we don't approve and then they

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<v Speaker 3>go to their homes and say, thank god they did it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw a number of people over the week and

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<v Speaker 3>say this really sets back the ability to negotiate. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>Ran Paul said that among other people here we were

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<v Speaker 3>in the midst of negotiations in Israel, did this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not helpful at all. You're in your nuts. Wow, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that is just delusional. Let's go roll on with mister Murray.

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<v Speaker 4>The proposition being put before you tonight is that you

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<v Speaker 4>have a choice between war.

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<v Speaker 2>And an Iran with the bomb.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a choice, as has been said before, between

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<v Speaker 4>war and dishonor you'll choose to honor this evening and

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<v Speaker 4>you'll get war. You have the choice between a war

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<v Speaker 4>with a nuclear Iran or a war at some point

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<v Speaker 4>with an Iran that is not nuclear, which you stop

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<v Speaker 4>from ever being nuclear, and hope that in stopping that

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<v Speaker 4>regime in embedding itself, you will give the Iranian people

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<v Speaker 4>the best chance.

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<v Speaker 2>They will have of overthrowing that regime.

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<v Speaker 4>But as I say, thank God, this doesn't rely on

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<v Speaker 4>you or any Europeans, because you've made the same mistake

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<v Speaker 4>before and nobody should trust you to get it right

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<v Speaker 4>this time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was in nineteen eighty one that Israel took

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<v Speaker 3>out a nuclear facility. At that time, was it who

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<v Speaker 3>was it? The Iraqis that were getting close to having

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<v Speaker 3>a nuclear weapon, And it was Prime Minister Monachem Began

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<v Speaker 3>at the time who made that call. And Reagan said

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<v Speaker 3>that that was awful and just just like Douglas morilated,

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<v Speaker 3>the whole world condemned it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then.

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<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister Began after his office out of office, was

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<v Speaker 3>given the Medal of Freedom by Dick Cheney years later

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<v Speaker 3>because in reality, behind closed doors, we were happier than

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<v Speaker 3>all that Israel did what had to be done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm cynical enough to get how domestic politics influence the

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<v Speaker 3>pronouncements you make about foreign relations, even if behind the

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<v Speaker 3>scenes your actual policies are very different than the proud But.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just I get sick of it, you know. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just it's it's so obvious.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's obvious to Austin Douglas Murray, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>obvious to a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on now.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand why Mohammed Bien Solomon has to pretend for

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<v Speaker 3>the quote unquote arab street. You remember when that was

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<v Speaker 3>a popular term. Anyway, I get why he has to

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<v Speaker 3>pretend to condemn it and the rest of it. But

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<v Speaker 3>our leaders, please just so phony.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Armstrong and Joe Setty The Armstrong and Getty Show,

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<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 5>Forty percent of US high school students reported feeling said

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<v Speaker 5>or hopeless in twenty twenty three, and twenty percent had

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<v Speaker 5>seriously considered attempting suicide.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciated that Meet the Press on Sunday did not

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<v Speaker 3>go with the usual news of the day, particularly around

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump. They went with the crisis that we've talked

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<v Speaker 3>about a lot and should be treated like a crisis.

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<v Speaker 3>That people are lonelier than ever, young people are killing

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<v Speaker 3>themselves and taking medications to deal with anxiety, and all of.

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<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>We know all this stuff as being like a lead story,

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<v Speaker 3>which it is, should be a lead story, the lead

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<v Speaker 3>story every week.

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<v Speaker 2>B this is what Trump did yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>For so cynical about these people, I wonder whether they're

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<v Speaker 3>doing that for the right reason or if their ratings

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<v Speaker 3>are just dropping off with never ending Trump hysteria. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>back to the very, very important topics. Let's hear a

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<v Speaker 3>little more from Christian Walker of Meet the Press, laying

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<v Speaker 3>out some of the facts here.

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<v Speaker 5>Two thirds of gen z report feelings of loneliness, and

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<v Speaker 5>half of young adults report symptoms of anxiety and depression.

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<v Speaker 5>Youth suicide rates are climbing. It is now one of

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<v Speaker 5>the leading causes of death in adolescence and young adults.

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<v Speaker 5>Almost one in five young adults report rarely or never

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<v Speaker 5>receiving the social support they need. In our super connected times,

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<v Speaker 5>over fifty five million US adults report frequent loneliness. The

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<v Speaker 5>smartphones and social media apps that connect us to the

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<v Speaker 5>world are also accelerating the crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one thing about this story.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like every single time we quickly get to smartphones,

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<v Speaker 3>social media and everybody's aware of this already, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot like there's not like the next sentence or the

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<v Speaker 3>next whatever comes after that, So we should what don't

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<v Speaker 3>make it? Have Superman fly around the world real really

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<v Speaker 3>fast and turn back time to be four smartphones.

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<v Speaker 2>If that were possible, I'd be all for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I'm trying to remember there was a great phrase

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<v Speaker 3>by Caitlin Flannagan I think, who wrote that we're drowning

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<v Speaker 3>in the stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's killing us, but we like it under the water. Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, combining a couple of things that are related and

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<v Speaker 3>not related, I guess. So this Netflix show Adolescents that's

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<v Speaker 3>getting a tremendous amount of attention. It's already got one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fourteen million views, which is a lot compared

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<v Speaker 3>to like regular TV shows. It's based on a horrifying

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<v Speaker 3>story of a middle schooler boy who murdered his classmate girl.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the reasons it's getting a fair amount

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<v Speaker 3>of attention by the New York Times, and Gavin Newsom

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<v Speaker 3>talked about how he had to turn it off as

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<v Speaker 3>horrifying is because they present a lot of it as

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<v Speaker 3>right wing, toxic masculinity that is caught on on social

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<v Speaker 3>media and the Tate Brothers and that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But and it goes too far all of that stuff

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<v Speaker 3>is true, but it leaves out, you know, there's plenty

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<v Speaker 3>on all sides of what's wrong with social media and

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<v Speaker 3>what it's doing to people and their worldviews, especially young men.

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<v Speaker 3>And then this story that also fits into it, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>is this thing. It became a TikTok craze, but the

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot of truth in it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the idea of men calling each other at night and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>just want to say good night to you. You know

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<v Speaker 3>you're a good friend, and saying good night. And I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that's because that's a thing that usually gets taken

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<v Speaker 3>care of by having a girlfriend or wife or boyfriend

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<v Speaker 3>or husband if you're gay, but you have a relationship

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<v Speaker 3>of somebody that's gonna text you goodnight, call you good night,

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<v Speaker 3>or is in bed next to you, and so many

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<v Speaker 3>people don't. Now it was kind of presented as like

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<v Speaker 3>a joke, but I could see how that could be

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<v Speaker 3>a thing. I'm not gonna do it, but I can

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<v Speaker 3>see how that could be a thing because you're lacking

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<v Speaker 3>that in your life. Nobody at the end of the

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<v Speaker 3>day that says, yeah, thinking about you, goodnight, miss you,

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. Yeah, these are very troubling developments. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>struck by and I'm trying to find the right words.

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<v Speaker 3>How much of this stuff is antiseptic? Is the closest

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting. What I'm what I'm driving at is online interaction,

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<v Speaker 3>including everything that we've described so far. And you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>make fun of this, but go ahead. First day, laugh

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<v Speaker 3>at you, Then they laugh at you more, then they

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<v Speaker 3>really really laugh at you.

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<v Speaker 2>But then the Hailey, who's a genius.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's how it ends anyway, an online relationship, porn,

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<v Speaker 3>social media, online quote unquote friends. I remember railing about

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<v Speaker 3>the term friends. Yeah, when Facebook first caught on, I

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<v Speaker 3>was ahead of my time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the porn chick you're looking at is not going

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<v Speaker 3>to text you miss you goodnight at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's what just dawned on me is you're going

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<v Speaker 2>through these things.

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<v Speaker 3>All of those quote unquote relationships or being with those people.

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<v Speaker 3>They have no smell, they have no taste, they have

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<v Speaker 3>no feelings, physical sensation until the love bots come along

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<v Speaker 3>and the rest of it. They are incredibly antiseptic. They

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<v Speaker 3>and they lack all of the like like downside, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>so you're you're you're with a girl. Maybe she's got

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<v Speaker 3>bad breath. Porn doesn't have bad breath, for instance. It

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<v Speaker 3>all is so lacking in the rough and tumble of

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<v Speaker 3>real life that I think people can no longer tolerate

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<v Speaker 3>the rough and tumble of real life of a lover

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<v Speaker 3>who's occasionally insensitive or has bad breath, or is sweating

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<v Speaker 3>from the gym or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and friends who annoy you and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if those are the examples that are

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<v Speaker 2>keeping people.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's the but it's easy, it's all so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's the emotional effort is a is a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen this with my own eyes, and it horrifies me.

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<v Speaker 3>They like draw straws to see who's gonna call to

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<v Speaker 3>order the pizza because it's so intimidating that crowd's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to ask somebody out and make the emotional risk

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<v Speaker 3>that is getting into her relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think pretty.

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<v Speaker 3>Clearly true, or fight through the inevitable part of the

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<v Speaker 3>relationship where you realize, Okay, this person is fully human

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<v Speaker 3>and has flaws and annoys me at times, and we

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<v Speaker 3>are sometimes we're going to have to do stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>they want to do and not just stuff I want

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<v Speaker 3>to do. I think that's a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>To go back a second, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>get a hung up on this, because the point is

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<v Speaker 3>not any of this. The whole point is not any

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<v Speaker 3>of the sex stuff. But apparently, because I've read about this,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I saw on the New York Post, you can,

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<v Speaker 3>like a lot of these only fans women, you can

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<v Speaker 3>get some sort of set up with them where they

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<v Speaker 3>text you throughout the day how's your day going? And

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<v Speaker 3>text you at night to fulfill that particular desire. That

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<v Speaker 3>desire is strong enough that dudes are not doing it

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<v Speaker 3>with each other, at least according to a TikTok trend.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, just thinking of you good night.

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<v Speaker 2>You can pay somebody to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>How about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I can't imagine getting any satisfaction from that whatsoever. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to delude yourself. You'd have to delude yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>The person I'm paying just texted me to say good night.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, good night everybody. John Fetterman, he's mine. Yeah. God,

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<v Speaker 2>that is horrifying. But I had another probin.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>So, the lead on Meet the Press was the Surgeon

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<v Speaker 3>General saying a while back that we have a loneliness epidemic.

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<v Speaker 3>It's cutting years off people's lives. It's it's a leading

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<v Speaker 3>killer because because it causes all kinds of different problems.

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<v Speaker 3>So do you think it's just flat loneliness because.

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<v Speaker 2>Of all the stuff we've just described.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's a vicious circle of loneliness for

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<v Speaker 3>the reasons we've been discussing.

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<v Speaker 2>You have this antiseptic.

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<v Speaker 3>Simulacrum, a foe relationship with various people from you know,

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 3>and that you have your OnlyFans girl text you nice,

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 3>sweet thinking of you, and then you begin to think,

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:14.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's the stripper saying, oh, you're handsome

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<v Speaker 3>on steroids, and people are primed to actually believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, falling in love with a damn robot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's it's awful.

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<v Speaker 3>So if we're at the loneliness epidemic right when AI

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 3>is taking off, and like Only Fans has only been

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 3>around for a few years, it just seems like the

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<v Speaker 3>timing is the the cures are coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Cures.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I'll use my finger quote, because it's not

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<v Speaker 3>curing the underlying problem. But I do know the ointment

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 3>or the sav for the problem. They are getting They're

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 3>getting better. Yeah, the band aids over the gaping wound

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 3>are getting better. I would go with, oh, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>here's a really nice band aid. Look, it completely covers

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 3>the gaping wound. Yeah, I'm telling you the human kind

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<v Speaker 3>is doomed.

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<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong and Getty Showy or Jack your show podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>and our hot links.

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<v Speaker 2>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta handle this very delicately. Okay, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>handle it delicately for this very nice mom who sent

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<v Speaker 3>us a text. I will switch into delicate mode on

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 3>your advice, combined with harsh mode I think is necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>So this this, well, this is why we can't have

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<v Speaker 2>nice things.

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<v Speaker 3>As the cliche goes, this is why demagoguing issues in

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<v Speaker 3>politics works.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess so.

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<v Speaker 3>An hour three, if you didn't hear it, gets the

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<v Speaker 3>podcast Armstrong and Getdy on demand. Joe got into the

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<v Speaker 3>whole big beautiful bill medicaid thing. We're getting ripped off

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<v Speaker 3>like crazy with Medicaid. We're gonna get into more of

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 3>it tomorrow with Craig Gottwaltsho was an expert in this.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're getting ripped off like crazy, all kinds of

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 3>healthy people. You're paying for their health care and other

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 3>stuff for no good reason whatsoever other than then nobody

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 3>keeps track of this sort of thing.

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 2>And because it buys votes, that's that's like the entire

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 2>reason you're paying for it.

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<v Speaker 3>And Phil Graham, former senator from from Texas from back

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 3>in the day, tried to run for president once but

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<v Speaker 3>he's way too smart to be president, has a PhD

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<v Speaker 3>in economics, wrote a piece about how, no, this is

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<v Speaker 3>where the money is. You talk about social Security, you know,

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 3>and cutbacks and everything like, No, the money where we

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<v Speaker 3>need to do something is in Medicaid. So we get

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<v Speaker 3>this text, Hey, I have a daughter who's disabled and

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<v Speaker 3>on Medicaid and Social Security, and I get to you

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 3>guys who are trying to get people riled up and

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<v Speaker 3>listening to your show, and I'm a strong Republican. But

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 3>what you're missing is and then she lays out the

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<v Speaker 3>story of how her disabled daughter can't take care of

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<v Speaker 3>herself at all, never.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be able to in her life.

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<v Speaker 3>Unbelievable, what you're dealing with, I can't even imagine, And

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 3>how she needs that money and we don't have the

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<v Speaker 3>courage to call her back and talk to her and

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<v Speaker 3>get the facts on this story about her disabled daughter

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<v Speaker 3>and how much she needs Medicaid. There will not be

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<v Speaker 3>a single disabled person affected in any way by the

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<v Speaker 3>proposed cuts, not one. And there isn't a single person

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<v Speaker 3>us or anybody else arguing for someone like your daughter

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<v Speaker 3>having their money cut.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I would argue strenuously one hundred and eighty degrees

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<v Speaker 2>in the other direction.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why you demogogue these issues though, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>sure that yes, her poor daughter and she will be

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 3>left high and drive by the mean Republicans. That is

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and eighty degrees opposite of the truth you said.

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 3>They we've convinced her. We convinced her even with you

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<v Speaker 3>only talking about the scammers.

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Her takeaway was like you and I are in favor

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<v Speaker 3>of cutting her daughter's money. I mean, if that's the

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 3>way it lands, no wonder politicians don't come with on

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 3>one hundred miles of even trying to stop they scumbag liars.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah, it's unfortunate, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is highly unfortunate, you could say, And we've seen this,

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 3>We've been doing this for a long time. You can,

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<v Speaker 3>as a politician, stand up in front of a crowd

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<v Speaker 3>and say, look, nobody here currently getting Social Security that's

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<v Speaker 3>over the age of sixty five will.

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<v Speaker 2>See any a dime of that cut in their lifetime.

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 3>But and then everything after the butt gets portrayed as you,

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<v Speaker 3>as an old person, are gonna starve, right, And it's

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<v Speaker 3>just there's just no getting around it, apparently, right, Right, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel for you, ma'am. What in a rough situation

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<v Speaker 2>you're in doing God's work, trying to deal with that.

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<v Speaker 3>But nobody us or anybody is suggesting cutting the program

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<v Speaker 3>for people like your daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody, right, We would have more money for people like

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<v Speaker 2>your daughter if the freaking healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty eight year old dude playing video games and laughing

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<v Speaker 3>at us wasn't getting all his stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Paid for, right. I don't know what you do with

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<v Speaker 2>the reality of this. I think if you were to

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<v Speaker 2>sit down with Carl Rove and.

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<v Speaker 3>James Carvill I'm trying to be by party, maybe Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, Charles Crouthammer, Jesus and John Wayne, they would

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 3>that's quite a crowd, they would say, Jackie boy, Joseph,

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 3>here's the story.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what politics is. Grow up.

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 3>You talk about trying to frighten or entice the herd

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<v Speaker 3>in one direction or another, as if you're too good

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<v Speaker 3>and too smart for that.

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 2>That's politics.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand what you're saying, that politicians go out there

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 3>and try to frighten you on this stuff. What I'm

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<v Speaker 3>concerned about is we made it clear we weren't trying.

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<v Speaker 3>We weren't claiming they're coming for your to take your

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<v Speaker 3>disabled daughter's Medicare.

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Politicians will say that sort of stuff Medicaid. Yeah, we weren't.

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<v Speaker 3>We were saying the opposite, and it's still landed as

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<v Speaker 3>if we were. That's what troubles me. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's squarely in the department of things I can't do

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<v Speaker 3>anything about. It's striking. I totally get your being troubled

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 3>by that. Like I said, if you're a politician, you

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<v Speaker 3>get up on stage and make it clear that I'm

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 3>not interested in cutting your social security, But people walk

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 3>out of the room thinking they're going to take my

0:32:56.080 --> 0:33:00.080
<v Speaker 3>social security. Yeah, well, that we're done here, then I

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 3>guess yes. As a as a country you mean yes,

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 3>or as a system of government people, well, right, self

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 3>governance doesn't work, That's my point.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, yeah, Well, the great Scottish philosopher what's his face?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh with the you know, the republic will last only

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<v Speaker 3>until the populace realizes they can vote themselves money from

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 3>the treasury. And and what he didn't suspect is that,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe he did, was that there that politicians would

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<v Speaker 3>be able to convince virtually all of the population that

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<v Speaker 3>any effort to rein that in was indeed an attack

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<v Speaker 3>on them and their well being.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh yeah, it just it doesn't work. Uh. The great.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, overarching Joe Getty principle, there are actually several

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 3>of them, many of them contradict each other, is that

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 3>all systems can last only until those who had gained

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:03.959
<v Speaker 3>the system when over those who would protect a system.

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, you know, the constant battle between hackers

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 3>and cybersecurity experts. There comes a point in a like

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 3>a governmental system where a combination of manipulating the voters

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 3>and then manipulating the systems behind the scenes becomes so

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 3>sophisticated that the immune system of democracy is insufficient. It's

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 3>like a septic infection in the bloodstream. So monarchy now,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I'm old you all figured out.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck if you're old already.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody is going to touch your Social Security period. No,

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 3>if you are actually disabled, nobody's going to take your

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<v Speaker 3>money period. Nobody wants to. Nobody's even suggested it, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet it is the easiest cell in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>If any Republicans say we're gonna rain in Medicaid waste

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<v Speaker 3>fraud abuse, they're gonna come take the money out of

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 3>the mouths of your disabled children, and people believe them.

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<v Speaker 2>So what are you gonna do. I'm in an accepting

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<v Speaker 2>mood today.

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 3>I have accepted it, probably because I'm excited about my

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 3>new political part party, the F y'all ickens. You gotta

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<v Speaker 3>have AI design a logo because that's a good I

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<v Speaker 3>like the capital F capital y apostrophe, a L L

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<v Speaker 3>dash I dash cans f y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>It cans.

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<v Speaker 3>We need an animal, though maybe the turkey is the

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 3>donkey and the elephant, or taken clearly.

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we have the turkey. Has heard in a previous

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 2>clip which Ben Franklin wanted to be our national.

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<v Speaker 1>Bird, Jack Armstrong and Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Strong and Getty Show