1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Katty arm Strong. 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: And Jattie and he Armstrong and Getty Strong. 4 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: So that somebody yelling at protesters saying we love immigrants 5 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 3: and you should to use stupid mf for once again 6 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: as people always do. In fact, I'm about to have 7 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: that in the story we're going to do from the 8 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal. 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: Quit conflating illegal and legal immigration. 10 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: Have a grown up discussion, or I won't even engage 11 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: with you unless you're going to point out that there's 12 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: a difference, that there's two different things. I'm not talking 13 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: to you. That's what everybody should say. That's what that's 14 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: what every Republican should say when they go on those 15 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: Sunday talk shows. Okay, I gotta stop. 16 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 2: You're right there. 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: If you're gonna pretend that we're talking about legal immigration 18 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: when it's illegal or legal when it's legal, and keep 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: going back and forth by using one word, I'm not 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: having this discussion. If you would like to act like 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: a grown up and have a distinction between the two things, 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: we can engage. Something we've been saying going on three 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: decades now in for years, it is astonished me the 24 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: number of people who are willing to engage on the 25 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 3: bizarre terms of the other side, Like you're describing what 26 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: are you doing? Are you just a coward? Do you 27 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: have no confidence in your own needs? Well, you know 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: conclusions in ill acts. Say, make your argument. You you 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: believe in illegal immigration, make your argument. Your argument sway 30 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: me or sway the American people on why we need 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: illegal immigration. But don't start with the Statue of liberty 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: and we're all immigrants. 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: And crap like that. Jesus, what are you well? 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: And anybody who got backed up and stimied by that 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: on our side of the aisle, you're an idiot. 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: Get out of the way. 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: And I don't know what to say. They invoked the 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: Statue of liberty. They make a pretty good point. Okay, 39 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 3: So we got into this yesterday and there's an update 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 3: on the story in the Wall Street Journal. It's confusing. 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: So Trump ran on deporting all illegals, and then polling 42 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: showed two thirds of American wanted every non documented immigrant deported. 43 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: Then Trump vows the biggest deportation program in world history. 44 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 3: And then you got his guy Stephen Miller. One of 45 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 3: his main advisors, who actually does want to deport everybody 46 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 3: who's here illegally. And then they start last week or 47 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 3: week before, as we all know, raids of farms and 48 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: restaurants where they were grabbing people that were just here illegally, 49 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: not with criminal records in all cases, and round them 50 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: up to try to boot them out with the caveat 51 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: that they are here illegally. 52 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: That is the law. 53 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: It's it's not insane to want to enforce the law. 54 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: That's not crazy. It's just very disruptive. But anyway, let 55 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: me read from the Wall Street journals. It's also not 56 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: nearly as popular as you portray it. We quibble about 57 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: this all the time. Those two thirds of people did 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 3: not mean that. 59 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: They just didn't know. 60 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 3: It's like the flip of people take Trump seriously but 61 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 3: or not literally but seriously, and it ought to be 62 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 3: vice versus Stephen Miller. 63 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: You need to take literally he wants to deport everybody. 64 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: I don't care. 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: It's illegal to be here without documentation. It's illegal. So 66 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: either come up with a new law or boot them out, 67 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: is my position. My prevalence would be to come up 68 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: with a new law. But you can't just decide, you know, 69 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: and be disruptive. So we'll ignore this law, like you 70 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: said yesterday, Which other laws we can we ignore? How 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: about the tax law? I don't like some of the 72 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: star I think some of them are really over the 73 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: top wrong. Can we just yeah, I understand on principles, 74 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: you can't do that. 75 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: You shout. We've been doing it. 76 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: For fifty years, three hundred and sixty five days a year, 77 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: the rubbers meeting the road. At some point you got 78 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 3: to you got to enforce the law or change the law. 79 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: Two choices. Yeah, so maybe enforcing the law is a 80 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: good way to be a what do you call that? 81 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 3: Something mechanism? Force the issue, to force Congress to actually 82 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 3: change the law, or people to start running. 83 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: On changing the law. Nobody ever talks about it. 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: Who's come out in the last couple of weeks with 85 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: their the law they'd like to pass. 86 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: I've had this written that my lawyers look over. This 87 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: is what I think the law should be. Who's with me? 88 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: I haven't heard a single person say that I made 89 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: the joke last week that I was going to drop 90 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: a sea bomb on the air. 91 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: The sea words. 92 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: You just can't ever say, Congress, How often do you 93 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: hear Congress needs act in this discussion right now practically never. 94 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna use up all my time before I get 95 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: to this, because I thought it was damned interesting. When 96 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: federal agents rated Glenn Valley Foods in Omaha, Nebraska, last Thursday, 97 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: they arrested about seventy five of the meat processors workers, roughly. 98 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: Half the production line. 99 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: The following day, the plant was operating at fifteen percent 100 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: capacity and a skeleton crew strained to fill orders. Chief 101 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: executive Gary Rower can't see a future that doesn't include 102 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 3: immigrant workers, immigrant walkers. 103 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: Are they illegal? Are they illegal? 104 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 3: God? 105 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: Ganget. I don't know if I'm mad at the guy 106 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: because did he say that. I don't know. 107 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: There's not quotes around that Wall Street Journal. Did you 108 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: just blur the line between legal and illegal? Of course 109 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: they're pro. 110 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: Open borders because they're pro big business. God. That makes 111 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: me mad is the guy saying I can't see a 112 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: future that doesn't. 113 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: Include illegal immigration or these people should be made legal. 114 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: Anyway, I'll just get back to the story. 115 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: The chief executive said he can't see a few that 116 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: doesn't include immigrant workers. Without them, there wouldn't be an industry. 117 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: So then they go through President Trump's aggressive deportation, and 118 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 3: he's got people within his cabinet that actually want everybody 119 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: booted out, and then there's people that don't want everybody 120 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: booted out. 121 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: So Trump, again, like he often does, compinying. 122 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 3: Like he's a bystander or he's doing a talk radio 123 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: show and it's not his administration, comments like Friday or Saturday, 124 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: and says, we can't be booting out. You know, people 125 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: have been here for years working hard. Can we I mean, 126 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: that'd be very disruptive. It's your program here, the president, 127 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 3: what do you want to Trump traveling just in a 128 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: different form than past administrations have sent them up. But 129 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: the Department of Homeland Security last week DHS directed immigration 130 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: officers to pause arrests at farms, restaurants, and hotels, stressing 131 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: that sweeps should focus on people here illegally of criminal backgrounds. Okay, fine, 132 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: But at the same time, dh just appeared to walk 133 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: back its own directive. I don't know if somebody wrote 134 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: that without Christy Nomes's knowledge or something like that in 135 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: a letter to Immigration and Customs enforcement leadership over the weekend. 136 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: Homeland Security Secretary, that's a person in charge of that 137 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: very organization. I was just mentioning that said, let's not 138 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: deport people or just airworking. Christy Nomes doubled down on 139 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: the administration's efforts to aport millions of people living in 140 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: the country illegally. We must dramatically intensify arrest and remove 141 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: all operations nationwide. This is non negotiable as a national priority, right, say, 142 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: we'll plan accordingly. Is your department that just said the 143 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: day before not to so where are. 144 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: You on this? 145 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: Or maybe she doesn't know where the president is on this. 146 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's pretty clear to me what is happening. 147 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: And I remember the first Trump administration was famously undisciplined 148 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: in its messaging and like the coherence of the team, 149 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: Trump's got a team of rivals to a large extent, 150 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: and they all have access to social media and media 151 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: leaks in a way that like Lincoln's team of rivals didn't. Plus, 152 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: so you get conflicting messages coming out breaking news. 153 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: Secretary Stewart did not tweet that's your breaking news. Yeah true. 154 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: And the second thing is that Trump is more than 155 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: willing to send a message to the business community. Yeah, 156 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: we gotta go easy on the meat in the in 157 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: the hotels and the agriculture. 158 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: We gotta go easy on that. Then simultaneously truce out 159 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: to the base. 160 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: We're booting them all out, every single one of them. 161 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: Pack your bags, folks, and everybody hears what they want 162 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: to hear. 163 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: Watch what they do, not what they say. 164 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: Christinom went on to say, first she made sure her 165 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: hair was cascading lovely around her shoulders, reglossed her swollen lips, 166 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: and the lighting was okay, so she looked like she's 167 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: on the cover of I don't know some fancy magazine. 168 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: Ice agents will be judged every day by how many 169 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: arrests you, your teammates, and your office are able to effectuate. 170 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: Failure is not an option. 171 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: I would take that as a thread at my job 172 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: of like, if I don't have if I don't meet 173 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 3: my goal numbers, I'm gonna get I'm gonna lose my job. Interestingly, though, 174 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 3: she threads the needle in her next statement, if you 175 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: were going to go there, go there. But she said, 176 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: your workplace raids will remain a cornerstone of the President's 177 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: deforportation plan. There will be no safe spaces for industries 178 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: who harbor violent criminals. Wait a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa. 179 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: That's different. That's threading the needle, or purposely try to 180 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: undermine ICE's efforts. Well, what if I'm just running Joe's 181 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: meatpacking plant and we just package up our delicious polk 182 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: jobs with the help of some folks whose paperwork looks 183 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: a little fishy, but they work hard in the nice people. 184 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: I'm not harboring violent criminals, and I'm not undermining anyone. 185 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: I think you should start booting out everybody. Just start 186 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: booting out everybody, because it's the law. 187 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: And you can until. 188 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: Congress act, which might take a by the way, and 189 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: I see what you're driving at now, enforce. 190 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: The damn law. 191 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: And if it's so disruptive in so many states that 192 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: people are howling, and maybe Congress says, I suppose we 193 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: better deal with this. Yeah, yeah, Maybe he could come 194 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 3: out hand in hand with Chuck Schumer. That'd be a 195 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 3: pu Corthy image. And Trump would say, look, my base 196 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 3: won't let us pass serious immigration law, and Schumer says, 197 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: neither will mine, and then we reckon with it. 198 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 2: I don't know. 199 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 3: So Trump was asked on the plane as he was 200 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: flying back if there would still be exemptions on ice 201 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: raids for certain industries, Trump said on Air Force one 202 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 3: last night as he was flying back to the United States. 203 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 3: Everyone is being looked at, but the bigger problem is 204 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: the cities right now. 205 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what that answer means. 206 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 3: So the Wall Street Journal has a little graph industries 207 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: with the highest share of workers who are likely undocumented. 208 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: You mean here illegally, you mean they're illegal immigrants. 209 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal taking the language of the left to 210 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: soften illegal immigration for obvious reasons in my mind. But landscaping, 211 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: almost a fifth of landscapers are here illegally. 212 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: Private households only assess. Yeah, I think they're undershooting lots. 213 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 3: But private households said, be like nannies, and you know, 214 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: whatever else help you're getting from. It's almost twenty percent 215 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 3: services to buildings and dwellings. So that would be all 216 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: the people doing all the maintenance around your big building 217 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff. It's about eighteen percent. 218 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 3: It looks like in this graph crop production. This has 219 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 3: got to be low seventeen percent crop production. Maybe I 220 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: don't know about the rest of the country, but in 221 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: California it's sure. 222 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 2: Got to be higher on it. Animals slaughtering and processing 223 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: what you can get it. You have a better term 224 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: for that. The meat the yo today, honey good killed 225 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: about fifteen cows at job. 226 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: That last one really struggled though. It's hard to get 227 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: him down. Wait to go, dad, that looks like sixteen 228 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: seventeen percent. I think those numbers are low too, but 229 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: it's and I'm sorry, those those numbers were illegals. 230 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: That's right because un document Yes, land of immigrants. I 231 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: don't know if you're where are that? 232 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 3: Give me your huddled masses and have him kill cows 233 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: for a living. If we I'll tell you this, this 234 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 3: will be my I'm giving myself the final word for me. 235 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: If we go through. If we go through this moment 236 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: without either enforcing the law or changing the law, it 237 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 3: will never happen. And you read my mind, And we'll 238 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: just have an underground brown working class that does stuff 239 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 3: we don't want to do that we can exploit for 240 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: lower wages and give him all the perks that you 241 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: would get as a US citizen and uh and whatever. 242 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 3: With the full support of the America's left, which is 243 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 3: constantly shouting about equity and the rest of it. 244 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 2: Yes, equity for all except for my maid, say the 245 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: limousine liberals. 246 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: Keeping in mind, while Trump was crowing about deporting everyone 247 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: while he's running for president, he got half of Hispanic 248 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: males to. 249 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: Vote for him. Yeah, as a Republican candidate. 250 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: Armstrong, the Armstrong and getting show. 251 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 3: Douglas Murray, the fabulous British thinker, gave this speech. I 252 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: believe it was thirteen years ago. He was right then, 253 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: he is right. Now, Let's hit it, Michael. 254 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: When Israel is pushed to the situation, it will be 255 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: pushed to of having to believe they mean it. And 256 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 4: when every bit of jiggery pokery behind the scenes runs out, 257 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 4: when the un and distinguished figures have run out of 258 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 4: time and Iran is about to produce his first bomb 259 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: will strike, every single country, including this one, will condemn Israel. 260 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 4: Everyone in the Middle East will condemn Israel. And they 261 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: will go back to their homes and they will say 262 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: in private, thank God for Israel. The Saudis, the Barralis, 263 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: the Egyptians, the Libyans, the Lebanese, everybody will say thank 264 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 4: God they did it, because nobody else would. 265 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: Everybody knows Israel has the most at stake in preventing 266 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: Iran from having nukes, and everybody's known for a very 267 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: long time, as Murray put it so eloquently, that they 268 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: would make sure there won't happen. And so everybody else 269 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: had the lovely and still has the lovely luxury of 270 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: saying where against violence and for diplomacy. Israel, with their 271 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: violence in the attacks, we don't approve and then they 272 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: go to their homes and say, thank god they did it. Yeah. 273 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: I saw a number of people over the week and 274 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: say this really sets back the ability to negotiate. Actually, 275 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: Ran Paul said that among other people here we were 276 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: in the midst of negotiations in Israel, did this. 277 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: This is not helpful at all. You're in your nuts. Wow, Wow, 278 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: that is just delusional. Let's go roll on with mister Murray. 279 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 4: The proposition being put before you tonight is that you 280 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: have a choice between war. 281 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: And an Iran with the bomb. 282 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: You have a choice, as has been said before, between 283 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 4: war and dishonor you'll choose to honor this evening and 284 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: you'll get war. You have the choice between a war 285 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 4: with a nuclear Iran or a war at some point 286 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: with an Iran that is not nuclear, which you stop 287 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: from ever being nuclear, and hope that in stopping that 288 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 4: regime in embedding itself, you will give the Iranian people 289 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: the best chance. 290 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: They will have of overthrowing that regime. 291 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: But as I say, thank God, this doesn't rely on 292 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: you or any Europeans, because you've made the same mistake 293 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: before and nobody should trust you to get it right 294 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 4: this time. 295 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: So I was in nineteen eighty one that Israel took 296 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: out a nuclear facility. At that time, was it who 297 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: was it? The Iraqis that were getting close to having 298 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon, And it was Prime Minister Monachem Began 299 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: at the time who made that call. And Reagan said 300 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: that that was awful and just just like Douglas morilated, 301 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: the whole world condemned it. 302 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: And then. 303 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: Prime Minister Began after his office out of office, was 304 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: given the Medal of Freedom by Dick Cheney years later 305 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: because in reality, behind closed doors, we were happier than 306 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: all that Israel did what had to be done. Yeah, 307 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: I'm cynical enough to get how domestic politics influence the 308 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: pronouncements you make about foreign relations, even if behind the 309 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: scenes your actual policies are very different than the proud But. 310 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: It's just I get sick of it, you know. I'm 311 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: just it's it's so obvious. 312 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: If it's obvious to Austin Douglas Murray, I mean, it's 313 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 3: obvious to a lot of people. 314 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 2: What's going on now. 315 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: I understand why Mohammed Bien Solomon has to pretend for 316 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: the quote unquote arab street. You remember when that was 317 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: a popular term. Anyway, I get why he has to 318 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 3: pretend to condemn it and the rest of it. But 319 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: our leaders, please just so phony. 320 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Setty The Armstrong and Getty Show, 321 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show. 322 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 5: Forty percent of US high school students reported feeling said 323 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 5: or hopeless in twenty twenty three, and twenty percent had 324 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 5: seriously considered attempting suicide. 325 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: I appreciated that Meet the Press on Sunday did not 326 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 3: go with the usual news of the day, particularly around 327 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. They went with the crisis that we've talked 328 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: about a lot and should be treated like a crisis. 329 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: That people are lonelier than ever, young people are killing 330 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: themselves and taking medications to deal with anxiety, and all of. 331 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 332 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: We know all this stuff as being like a lead story, 333 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 3: which it is, should be a lead story, the lead 334 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 3: story every week. 335 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: B this is what Trump did yesterday. 336 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 3: For so cynical about these people, I wonder whether they're 337 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 3: doing that for the right reason or if their ratings 338 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 3: are just dropping off with never ending Trump hysteria. But anyway, 339 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: back to the very, very important topics. Let's hear a 340 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: little more from Christian Walker of Meet the Press, laying 341 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: out some of the facts here. 342 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 5: Two thirds of gen z report feelings of loneliness, and 343 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 5: half of young adults report symptoms of anxiety and depression. 344 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 5: Youth suicide rates are climbing. It is now one of 345 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 5: the leading causes of death in adolescence and young adults. 346 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 5: Almost one in five young adults report rarely or never 347 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 5: receiving the social support they need. In our super connected times, 348 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 5: over fifty five million US adults report frequent loneliness. The 349 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 5: smartphones and social media apps that connect us to the 350 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 5: world are also accelerating the crisis. 351 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: That's one thing about this story. 352 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: I feel like every single time we quickly get to smartphones, 353 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: social media and everybody's aware of this already, there's a 354 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: lot like there's not like the next sentence or the 355 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: next whatever comes after that, So we should what don't 356 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: make it? Have Superman fly around the world real really 357 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: fast and turn back time to be four smartphones. 358 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: If that were possible, I'd be all for it. 359 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 3: Right, I'm trying to remember there was a great phrase 360 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 3: by Caitlin Flannagan I think, who wrote that we're drowning 361 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: in the stuff. 362 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: It's killing us, but we like it under the water. Ah, 363 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: that's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good. 364 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 3: Now, combining a couple of things that are related and 365 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: not related, I guess. So this Netflix show Adolescents that's 366 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: getting a tremendous amount of attention. It's already got one 367 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: hundred and fourteen million views, which is a lot compared 368 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: to like regular TV shows. It's based on a horrifying 369 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 3: story of a middle schooler boy who murdered his classmate girl. 370 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: And one of the reasons it's getting a fair amount 371 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 3: of attention by the New York Times, and Gavin Newsom 372 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 3: talked about how he had to turn it off as 373 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 3: horrifying is because they present a lot of it as 374 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: right wing, toxic masculinity that is caught on on social 375 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: media and the Tate Brothers and that sort of stuff. 376 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: But and it goes too far all of that stuff 377 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: is true, but it leaves out, you know, there's plenty 378 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: on all sides of what's wrong with social media and 379 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 3: what it's doing to people and their worldviews, especially young men. 380 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: And then this story that also fits into it, I think, 381 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: is this thing. It became a TikTok craze, but the 382 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of truth in it. It's 383 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 3: the idea of men calling each other at night and saying, hey, 384 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: just want to say good night to you. You know 385 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: you're a good friend, and saying good night. And I 386 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: thought that's because that's a thing that usually gets taken 387 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: care of by having a girlfriend or wife or boyfriend 388 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: or husband if you're gay, but you have a relationship 389 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: of somebody that's gonna text you goodnight, call you good night, 390 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: or is in bed next to you, and so many 391 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: people don't. Now it was kind of presented as like 392 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: a joke, but I could see how that could be 393 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: a thing. I'm not gonna do it, but I can 394 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 3: see how that could be a thing because you're lacking 395 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: that in your life. Nobody at the end of the 396 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: day that says, yeah, thinking about you, goodnight, miss you, 397 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: something like that. Yeah, these are very troubling developments. I'm 398 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: struck by and I'm trying to find the right words. 399 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: How much of this stuff is antiseptic? Is the closest 400 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 3: I'm getting. What I'm what I'm driving at is online interaction, 401 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 3: including everything that we've described so far. And you're gonna 402 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: make fun of this, but go ahead. First day, laugh 403 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: at you, Then they laugh at you more, then they 404 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: really really laugh at you. 405 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 2: But then the Hailey, who's a genius. 406 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: I think that's how it ends anyway, an online relationship, porn, 407 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: social media, online quote unquote friends. I remember railing about 408 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 3: the term friends. Yeah, when Facebook first caught on, I 409 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: was ahead of my time. 410 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right about that. 411 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the porn chick you're looking at is not going 412 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: to text you miss you goodnight at the end of 413 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: the day. 414 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 2: But here's what just dawned on me is you're going 415 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: through these things. 416 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: All of those quote unquote relationships or being with those people. 417 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: They have no smell, they have no taste, they have 418 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: no feelings, physical sensation until the love bots come along 419 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: and the rest of it. They are incredibly antiseptic. They 420 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 3: and they lack all of the like like downside, all right, 421 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: so you're you're you're with a girl. Maybe she's got 422 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 3: bad breath. Porn doesn't have bad breath, for instance. It 423 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: all is so lacking in the rough and tumble of 424 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: real life that I think people can no longer tolerate 425 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: the rough and tumble of real life of a lover 426 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: who's occasionally insensitive or has bad breath, or is sweating 427 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 3: from the gym or whatever. 428 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and friends who annoy you and stuff. 429 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: I don't know. 430 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 2: I don't know if those are the examples that are 431 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: keeping people. 432 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 3: I think it's the but it's easy, it's all so yeah, 433 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: I think it's the emotional effort is a is a problem. 434 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: I've seen this with my own eyes, and it horrifies me. 435 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: They like draw straws to see who's gonna call to 436 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 3: order the pizza because it's so intimidating that crowd's not 437 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: going to ask somebody out and make the emotional risk 438 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 3: that is getting into her relationship. 439 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I think pretty. 440 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: Clearly true, or fight through the inevitable part of the 441 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 3: relationship where you realize, Okay, this person is fully human 442 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 3: and has flaws and annoys me at times, and we 443 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: are sometimes we're going to have to do stuff that 444 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: they want to do and not just stuff I want 445 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: to do. I think that's a big part of it. 446 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: To go back a second, and I don't want to 447 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 3: get a hung up on this, because the point is 448 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 3: not any of this. The whole point is not any 449 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 3: of the sex stuff. But apparently, because I've read about this, 450 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: I think I saw on the New York Post, you can, 451 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: like a lot of these only fans women, you can 452 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: get some sort of set up with them where they 453 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: text you throughout the day how's your day going? And 454 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 3: text you at night to fulfill that particular desire. That 455 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 3: desire is strong enough that dudes are not doing it 456 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 3: with each other, at least according to a TikTok trend. 457 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 3: You know, just thinking of you good night. 458 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: You can pay somebody to do that. 459 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 4: How about that? 460 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: Look, I can't imagine getting any satisfaction from that whatsoever. Hey, 461 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 3: you've got to delude yourself. You'd have to delude yourself. 462 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 3: The person I'm paying just texted me to say good night. 463 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: Hi, good night everybody. John Fetterman, he's mine. Yeah. God, 464 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: that is horrifying. But I had another probin. 465 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 4: Oh. 466 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: So, the lead on Meet the Press was the Surgeon 467 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: General saying a while back that we have a loneliness epidemic. 468 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: It's cutting years off people's lives. It's it's a leading 469 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: killer because because it causes all kinds of different problems. 470 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: So do you think it's just flat loneliness because. 471 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: Of all the stuff we've just described. 472 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a vicious circle of loneliness for 473 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: the reasons we've been discussing. 474 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: You have this antiseptic. 475 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 3: Simulacrum, a foe relationship with various people from you know, 476 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: and that you have your OnlyFans girl text you nice, 477 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: sweet thinking of you, and then you begin to think, 478 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's the stripper saying, oh, you're handsome 479 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: on steroids, and people are primed to actually believe it. 480 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, falling in love with a damn robot. 481 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's awful. 482 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: So if we're at the loneliness epidemic right when AI 483 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 3: is taking off, and like Only Fans has only been 484 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 3: around for a few years, it just seems like the 485 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: timing is the the cures are coming. 486 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: Cures. 487 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: I guess I'll use my finger quote, because it's not 488 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 3: curing the underlying problem. But I do know the ointment 489 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: or the sav for the problem. They are getting They're 490 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: getting better. Yeah, the band aids over the gaping wound 491 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: are getting better. I would go with, oh, yes, yes, 492 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 3: here's a really nice band aid. Look, it completely covers 493 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: the gaping wound. Yeah, I'm telling you the human kind 494 00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: is doomed. 495 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Showy or Jack your show podcasts 496 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: and our hot links. 497 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show. 498 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: I gotta handle this very delicately. Okay, I want to 499 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 3: handle it delicately for this very nice mom who sent 500 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: us a text. I will switch into delicate mode on 501 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: your advice, combined with harsh mode I think is necessary. 502 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 2: So this this, well, this is why we can't have 503 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: nice things. 504 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: As the cliche goes, this is why demagoguing issues in 505 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: politics works. 506 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: I guess so. 507 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: An hour three, if you didn't hear it, gets the 508 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: podcast Armstrong and Getdy on demand. Joe got into the 509 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 3: whole big beautiful bill medicaid thing. We're getting ripped off 510 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 3: like crazy with Medicaid. We're gonna get into more of 511 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 3: it tomorrow with Craig Gottwaltsho was an expert in this. 512 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: But we're getting ripped off like crazy, all kinds of 513 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: healthy people. You're paying for their health care and other 514 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: stuff for no good reason whatsoever other than then nobody 515 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 3: keeps track of this sort of thing. 516 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: And because it buys votes, that's that's like the entire 517 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: reason you're paying for it. 518 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 3: And Phil Graham, former senator from from Texas from back 519 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: in the day, tried to run for president once but 520 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 3: he's way too smart to be president, has a PhD 521 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 3: in economics, wrote a piece about how, no, this is 522 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 3: where the money is. You talk about social Security, you know, 523 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: and cutbacks and everything like, No, the money where we 524 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: need to do something is in Medicaid. So we get 525 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: this text, Hey, I have a daughter who's disabled and 526 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: on Medicaid and Social Security, and I get to you 527 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: guys who are trying to get people riled up and 528 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: listening to your show, and I'm a strong Republican. But 529 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: what you're missing is and then she lays out the 530 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: story of how her disabled daughter can't take care of 531 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: herself at all, never. 532 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: Will be able to in her life. 533 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: Unbelievable, what you're dealing with, I can't even imagine, And 534 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 3: how she needs that money and we don't have the 535 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: courage to call her back and talk to her and 536 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 3: get the facts on this story about her disabled daughter 537 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 3: and how much she needs Medicaid. There will not be 538 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 3: a single disabled person affected in any way by the 539 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 3: proposed cuts, not one. And there isn't a single person 540 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: us or anybody else arguing for someone like your daughter 541 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: having their money cut. 542 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: No, I would argue strenuously one hundred and eighty degrees 543 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: in the other direction. 544 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: This is why you demogogue these issues though, because it's 545 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: sure that yes, her poor daughter and she will be 546 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: left high and drive by the mean Republicans. That is 547 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty degrees opposite of the truth you said. 548 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: They we've convinced her. We convinced her even with you 549 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: only talking about the scammers. 550 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: Right. 551 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: Her takeaway was like you and I are in favor 552 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 3: of cutting her daughter's money. I mean, if that's the 553 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: way it lands, no wonder politicians don't come with on 554 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: one hundred miles of even trying to stop they scumbag liars. 555 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, it's unfortunate, isn't it. 556 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: It is highly unfortunate, you could say, And we've seen this, 557 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: We've been doing this for a long time. You can, 558 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: as a politician, stand up in front of a crowd 559 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: and say, look, nobody here currently getting Social Security that's 560 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: over the age of sixty five will. 561 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: See any a dime of that cut in their lifetime. 562 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: But and then everything after the butt gets portrayed as you, 563 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: as an old person, are gonna starve, right, And it's 564 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 3: just there's just no getting around it, apparently, right, Right, man. 565 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: I feel for you, ma'am. What in a rough situation 566 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: you're in doing God's work, trying to deal with that. 567 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: But nobody us or anybody is suggesting cutting the program 568 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 3: for people like your daughter. 569 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: Nobody, right, We would have more money for people like 570 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: your daughter if the freaking healthy. 571 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: Twenty eight year old dude playing video games and laughing 572 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: at us wasn't getting all his stuff. 573 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: Paid for, right. I don't know what you do with 574 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: the reality of this. I think if you were to 575 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: sit down with Carl Rove and. 576 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: James Carvill I'm trying to be by party, maybe Donald Trump, 577 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, Charles Crouthammer, Jesus and John Wayne, they would 578 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: that's quite a crowd, they would say, Jackie boy, Joseph, 579 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: here's the story. 580 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: That's what politics is. Grow up. 581 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 3: You talk about trying to frighten or entice the herd 582 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 3: in one direction or another, as if you're too good 583 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 3: and too smart for that. 584 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: That's politics. 585 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying, that politicians go out there 586 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: and try to frighten you on this stuff. What I'm 587 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: concerned about is we made it clear we weren't trying. 588 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: We weren't claiming they're coming for your to take your 589 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: disabled daughter's Medicare. 590 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: Politicians will say that sort of stuff Medicaid. Yeah, we weren't. 591 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 3: We were saying the opposite, and it's still landed as 592 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: if we were. That's what troubles me. Yeah, I think 593 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: that's squarely in the department of things I can't do 594 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: anything about. It's striking. I totally get your being troubled 595 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 3: by that. Like I said, if you're a politician, you 596 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 3: get up on stage and make it clear that I'm 597 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: not interested in cutting your social security, But people walk 598 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 3: out of the room thinking they're going to take my 599 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 3: social security. Yeah, well, that we're done here, then I 600 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 3: guess yes. As a as a country you mean yes, 601 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 3: or as a system of government people, well, right, self 602 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 3: governance doesn't work, That's my point. 603 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, Well, the great Scottish philosopher what's his face? 604 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: Uh with the you know, the republic will last only 605 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 3: until the populace realizes they can vote themselves money from 606 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 3: the treasury. And and what he didn't suspect is that, 607 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 3: or maybe he did, was that there that politicians would 608 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: be able to convince virtually all of the population that 609 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: any effort to rein that in was indeed an attack 610 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: on them and their well being. 611 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: So uh yeah, it just it doesn't work. Uh. The great. 612 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: You know, overarching Joe Getty principle, there are actually several 613 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: of them, many of them contradict each other, is that 614 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 3: all systems can last only until those who had gained 615 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 3: the system when over those who would protect a system. 616 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, the constant battle between hackers 617 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 3: and cybersecurity experts. There comes a point in a like 618 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 3: a governmental system where a combination of manipulating the voters 619 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 3: and then manipulating the systems behind the scenes becomes so 620 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: sophisticated that the immune system of democracy is insufficient. It's 621 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 3: like a septic infection in the bloodstream. So monarchy now, 622 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm old you all figured out. 623 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: Good luck if you're old already. 624 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: Nobody is going to touch your Social Security period. No, 625 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: if you are actually disabled, nobody's going to take your 626 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 3: money period. Nobody wants to. Nobody's even suggested it, right, 627 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: and yet it is the easiest cell in the world. 628 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 3: If any Republicans say we're gonna rain in Medicaid waste 629 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 3: fraud abuse, they're gonna come take the money out of 630 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 3: the mouths of your disabled children, and people believe them. 631 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 2: So what are you gonna do. I'm in an accepting 632 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: mood today. 633 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 3: I have accepted it, probably because I'm excited about my 634 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 3: new political part party, the F y'all ickens. You gotta 635 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 3: have AI design a logo because that's a good I 636 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 3: like the capital F capital y apostrophe, a L L 637 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 3: dash I dash cans f y'all. 638 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: It cans. 639 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 3: We need an animal, though maybe the turkey is the 640 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 3: donkey and the elephant, or taken clearly. 641 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 2: Maybe we have the turkey. Has heard in a previous 642 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: clip which Ben Franklin wanted to be our national. 643 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: Bird, Jack Armstrong and Joe 644 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: Strong and Getty Show