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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 3: It is the Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 3: Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: It's a big news day, as.

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Speaker 3: Many of you, I'm sure are very aware already. We're

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Speaker 3: going to get into some of it. Clay and I

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Speaker 3: have a lot of updates and analysis for you. Trump

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Speaker 3: appearing in federal court down here in Miami, Florida, first

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Speaker 3: time a former president has ever faced a federal indictment

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Speaker 3: like this, and we're going to try to bring you

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Speaker 3: all the latest on this and where we think this

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Speaker 3: is going. Also, if you're very online, as they say,

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Speaker 3: if you're very involved in the online political discussions, you

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Speaker 3: may have seen a video going around of a trans

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Speaker 3: influencer going topless in front of the White House. And

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Speaker 3: it's you know, during a ceremony where Joe Biden had

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Speaker 3: said or as part of the same visit to the

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Speaker 3: White House where Joe Biden had talked about the bravery

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Speaker 3: of the trans community. Apparently, now you have a trans

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Speaker 3: influencer who thinks it is brave to show the fake

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Speaker 3: breasts on a man in front of the White House.

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Speaker 3: The whole thing has got people saying, what the heck

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Speaker 3: is going on. Imagine if somebody not from the trans

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Speaker 3: community did this thing. We'll certainly discuss that. Also, Senator

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Speaker 3: Chuck Grassley has said, and Grassley is not a bomb

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Speaker 3: thrower member of Congress. He tends to keep it very

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Speaker 3: much based on what he can prove, what he can see,

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Speaker 3: what the facts are. He says that a Ukrainian oil

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Speaker 3: executive who bribed Joe Biden. This is part of the

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Speaker 3: Oversight Committee hearings that have been underway. Ukrainian oil executive

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Speaker 3: who bribed Joe Biden allegedly with five million dollars, kept

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Speaker 3: secret recordings Clay, a couple of secret recordings of calls

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Speaker 3: with him and Joe Biden, and also secret recordings of

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Speaker 3: a number of calls with Hunter Biden. So we'll see

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Speaker 3: how that plays out. This is all tied to the

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Speaker 3: FBI in a raw intelligence informant document that the House

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Speaker 3: Oversight Committee wanted and initially the FBI would not hand over.

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Speaker 3: We also have the Gavin Newsom interview last night with

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Speaker 3: Sean Hannity, was very interesting and I actually want to

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Speaker 3: start with that if I can, Clay, we're gonna get

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Speaker 3: We're going to dive in in just a moment here

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Speaker 3: to the Trump indictment situation too. And oh, we have

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Speaker 3: Nicky Haley, Republican presidential contender. She'll be joining us at

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Speaker 3: the bottom of this hour. So we said, every GOP

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Speaker 3: candidate who's you know, above one percent or two percent

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Speaker 3: in the polls, we will have the will make the

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Speaker 3: offer to let them come on the show. We'll be

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Speaker 3: speaking to Nicki Haley, former US Ambassador to the UN

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Speaker 3: under Trump, in just a few moments. But Clay, can

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Speaker 3: I just start with this, Sean. One of the things

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Speaker 3: we've talked about here is how much we would love

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Speaker 3: to see a debate between Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis.

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Speaker 3: This is a little outside of the presidential realm right now.

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Speaker 3: It's just more of the national political conversation blue state

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Speaker 3: versus red state governance and how's that all going, which

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Speaker 3: clearly plays into the presidential election too. And Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 3: is a candidate. Sean said that he would host the

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Speaker 3: debate between Newsom and DeSantis, which I think is would

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Speaker 3: be great. I would really like to watch that Newsom

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Speaker 3: says he's in I would just point out, though, something

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Speaker 3: we often talk about the mistakes that Newsom has made.

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Speaker 2: So I pulled up, there's a super cut.

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Speaker 3: There are so many things that he's done in California

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Speaker 3: that even he says are a disaster and totally in defensible.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's play the Newsom super cutoff. He takes full responsibility.

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Speaker 4: We had an historic number of homeless under republic in admission.

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Speaker 3: Now there's one hundred and seventy one thousands.

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Speaker 2: Grace its graceful.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll compare to Florida yet twenty six thousand,

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Speaker 3: of course, okay, same weather, similar state.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've lived in there. Growth dynamics are very different.

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Speaker 2: That said, we own this, Sean.

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Speaker 3: We have two points sisters out here recently with a

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Speaker 3: team and I said, it's don't go to the wharf.

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Speaker 2: Certain parts are bad, and we own that.

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Speaker 3: The difference between me and most politicians is I own this,

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Speaker 2: Responsibility for this. This is personal on me. I love

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Speaker 2: this state. I don't like what's happening with the encampments

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Speaker 3: It wasn't illegal, was wrong, and I totally violated the

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Speaker 2: And I own that.

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Speaker 3: He owns it, Clay, he owns the massive screw ups

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Speaker 3: that California is going through? Is that really an answer?

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Speaker 3: Like I own it? Okay, I guess we can't talk

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Speaker 5: I'm go be honest with you, Buck. I watch Gavin

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Speaker 5: Newsom's interview with Sean Hannity. I disagree with everything just

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Speaker 5: about that he has done. I didn't hate him. This

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Speaker 5: is why I am concerned that he is potentially going

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Speaker 5: to be the nominee.

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Speaker 2: And I know you.

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Speaker 5: Laugh with me, and I know youicule it, and I

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Speaker 5: want to I want to really despise evil Keanu reeves right,

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Speaker 5: which I think is a cute description of how it sounds.

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Speaker 5: But I give him credit, just like we did for

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Speaker 5: Trump for going on CNN. I give him credit for

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Speaker 5: going into the lions Den with Sean Hannity and Buck,

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Speaker 5: I think there are a lot of people out there

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Speaker 5: that when you say, and actually there's a longer version

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Speaker 5: of Hannity kind of grilling him on the stupid French

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Speaker 5: laundry thing of him saying, yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was stupid, I'm an idiot, you know.

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Speaker 5: Basically, I'm paraphrasing what he said, and we have this

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Speaker 5: world that we've created.

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Speaker 2: But I do think those clips, when you play them,

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Speaker 2: we have created a world.

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Speaker 5: We're ever acknowledging that you got anything wrong if you

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Speaker 5: for people out there who are listening, people will accept

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Speaker 5: if you say, you know what, I make a lot

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Speaker 5: of decisions every day and sometimes I screw up. That's

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Speaker 5: normal life, and we've created this artificial world where I mean,

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Speaker 5: if you ask Trump, for instance, I think, hey, what's

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Speaker 5: something that you really screwed up?

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Speaker 2: As president?

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Speaker 5: He would say nothing right, And obviously that's not true, right,

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Speaker 5: because you make one hundred decisions every day and some

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Speaker 5: of them you're gonna get wrong. I think Newsome Buck

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Speaker 5: may be able to just say, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I've screwed up a lot of things.

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Speaker 5: But I've learned from him, and I'm the best candidate

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Speaker 5: going forward. And I think he may be rhetorical skilled enough.

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Speaker 5: He may be rhetorically skilled enough that even as a

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Speaker 5: looks even as evil. Keanu reeves as he looks like

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Speaker 5: I think he's setting it up to be the replacement

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Speaker 5: for Biden, because there's no other reason buck he would

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Speaker 3: All right, So let me let me a few things

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Speaker 3: where it's not that I think you disagree with me,

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Speaker 3: but I had a sort of a different takeaway, right

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Speaker 3: So on the why do I think it's so interesting

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Speaker 3: that he goes I said responsibility, I own that I own.

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Speaker 3: He kept saying it. Yeah, what Gavin Newsom is saying.

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Speaker 3: And I think that our audience needs to hear this

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Speaker 3: because we talk about it a lot. Is when we

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Speaker 3: talk about the outflow from California, when we talk about

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Speaker 3: the homelessness crisis, when we talk about all the crime,

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Speaker 3: when we talk about the duplicitousness of the elites. It

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Speaker 3: wasn't just news to remember, it was Pelosi getting her

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Speaker 2: It was London right across the board. Everything that we told.

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Speaker 3: You and tell you about that is true, Gavin Noose,

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Speaker 3: it is indefensible. He can't even defend it. So I

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Speaker 3: just my first thing was, hey, you know, people say, oh,

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Speaker 3: they're just beating up on California because it's blue state

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Speaker 3: and it's the desert. No, what we're saying is the

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Speaker 3: absolute gospel truth of what a screw up these different

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Speaker 3: parts of it otherwise. And the thing is, I agree

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Speaker 3: with you on this. When he talks about how much

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Speaker 3: he loves California, what do you and I sit here

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Speaker 3: and say, caliv I grew up in New York City

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Speaker 3: and I always thought I'm gonna get older one day, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna live in Santa Monica.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna live in mount Like that's the promised Land. California.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's so happy and beautiful in the sunshine in Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: I grew up, you know, idolizing it. And he kept saying,

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Speaker 3: I love this state. I love this state. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: he he's destroying it. And the one thing that he

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Speaker 3: so much. He inherited Silicon Valley and the entertainment industry

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Speaker 3: of California. The GDP of that state would look very different,

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Speaker 3: and that's just something that he happened to have he inherited.

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Speaker 2: Okay, on the how does he play part of this?

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Speaker 2: You know, he's slick.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to say the guy's not slick,

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Speaker 3: and I didn't and I appreciate that. Sean took the

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Speaker 3: perspective two of Look, let's actually talk policy. It was.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing.

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Speaker 3: You saw two people who disagree who sat down and

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Speaker 3: actually had a conversation. Yeah, when was the lot? Now,

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Speaker 3: we gave Trump a lot of credit for going on CNN.

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Speaker 3: What's interesting in that context is CNN is not gonna

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Speaker 3: let that happen again because Trump, you know, just did

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Speaker 3: me though, I mean, you're looking at it. You know,

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Speaker 3: is Newsom for Newsom's one hundred percent going.

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Speaker 2: To run for president? Right? I think you and I

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Speaker 2: agree on that at some point.

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think it's going to be

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Speaker 3: run for president. We may get a Newsome DeSantis throwdown

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty eight, right, that could happen. But in

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Speaker 3: the meantime, the whole red state blue state paradigm that

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Speaker 3: we've talked about so many times on the show. Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't agree with everything we're saying about it, but

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Speaker 3: he admits the problems that we say are huge problems

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Speaker 3: are real, they are indefensible, and they need to fix

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Speaker 3: this stuff.

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Speaker 5: Here's what I would say to everybody. The Republican bench

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Speaker 5: of candidates is really good.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: There's four or five people that if they were the

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Speaker 5: nominee right now, I would be like, I feel good

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Speaker 5: about their chances to beat Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: What about the Democrat bench.

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Speaker 5: I think Gavin Newsom is by far the best Democrat

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Speaker 5: that is available.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: They talk about Pritzker, you know, the fat governor from

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Speaker 2: Right, it's all what you can sell.

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Speaker 5: And if they can sell Flippin' Fetterman and if they

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Speaker 3: as you know, that's right now, we're not there Biden's nominee.

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Speaker 2: Right, unless it's just going to be the vice president,

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Speaker 5: She would get smoked, and I don't think that they're

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Speaker 3: I feel like you're forcing me to be the guy

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Speaker 3: I think they could flip that switch for Kamala too.

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Speaker 3: That's how I see it, but we'll see.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back Dan Clay, Tramas, Buck Sexton, Show buck Sexton,

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Speaker 5: the head of the Kamala Harris fan club.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, early play early in America.

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Speaker 5: I I look, I wanted to hate him. We're talking

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Speaker 5: And we've got a caller, Buck, who lives in California.

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Speaker 5: I bet there's California who's listening right now that like,

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Speaker 5: I disagree with everything that Gavin Newsom has done, what

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Speaker 5: Jason and Bakersfield, you kind of agree with me. He's

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm sorry, Buck, but I do agree with Clay.

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Speaker 3: So I his way in because I'm Clay and I

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Speaker 2: I get that.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying all the things that we hit him on.

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Speaker 2: I own this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so, but but Buck, that's such thank you for

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Speaker 3: It's really good, it's effective. I'm not again he there's

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. Everybody.

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Speaker 3: As promised, we have Ambassador Nicky Haley with us now.

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Speaker 3: She is running for GOP nomination for President of the

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Speaker 3: United States. Ambassador Haley, thanks for making the time.

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Speaker 6: Thanks so much. It's great to be with you.

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Speaker 3: So let's start, if we could, with your analysis of

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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I had a great relation, working

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Speaker 6: Having said that, if the claims in the indictment are true.

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Speaker 6: can do whatever he wants, he is the governor. But

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Speaker 6: the biggest issue with this is Disney just didn't become

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Speaker 6: woke overnight. They've been woke for a long time. I

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Speaker 6: remember when they hit President Trump on immigration, So this

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Speaker 6: is nothing new. All I'm saying is if you've gone

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Speaker 6: and given Disney that the largest corporate subsidies in Florida history,

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Speaker 6: if you've gone and done all of these things for

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Speaker 6: Disney and they are your largest employer, I just don't

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Speaker 6: think you need to get into this vendetta politics where you're,

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Speaker 6: you know, using taxpayer dollars for lawsuits. That's not what

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Speaker 6: I would do. What I would do is call them

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Speaker 6: out on what you need to call them out on.

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Speaker 6: But just because they hit you doesn't mean you have

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Speaker 6: to go into an all out war with them. I mean,

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Speaker 6: these companies tend to do that. We're seeing more and

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Speaker 6: more wote companies. What we should do is keep pushing

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Speaker 6: policy that we know is right for our people and

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Speaker 6: then let the companies go and hurt themselves in the

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Speaker 6: way that they criticize things. But I just think that

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Speaker 6: back and forth is unfortunate for the people of Florida.

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Speaker 6: But he's got a decision to make. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 6: much rather talk about the fact that you know, we're

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Speaker 6: thirty one trillion dollars in debt, and you know he

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Speaker 6: voted to raise the debt feeling back in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 6: and you know, now we're sitting in a big mess

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Speaker 6: when it comes to our debt. I think we've got

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Speaker 6: to take care of that.

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Speaker 3: Cobbssor Haley on the issue of Trump, you mentioned a

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Speaker 3: moment ago that you always had a very good relationship

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Speaker 3: with them. You obviously were the US Ambassador to the

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Speaker 3: United Nations during Trump's first term. You know you're running

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Speaker 3: for president. So what would be different about a Hally

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Speaker 3: presidency than a Trump second term? What would you do

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Speaker 3: better or what would you do differently?

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Speaker 6: Well, I've been a two term governor that took a

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Speaker 6: double digit unemployment state and turned it into an economic powerhouse.

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Speaker 6: I was at the UN. I didn't deal with one country.

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Speaker 6: I dealt with one hundred and ninety three. I mean,

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Speaker 6: President Trump and I differ on some things. You know,

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Speaker 6: he thinks January sixth was a beautiful day. I think

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Speaker 6: it was a terrible day. You know, he thinks we

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Speaker 6: should stay neutral on the war with Ukraine and Russia.

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Speaker 6: I think a win for Ukraine is good for America's

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Speaker 6: national security. You know, he had no problem with the

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Speaker 6: spending and you know the increase in the debt that

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Speaker 6: we had, And I, as an accountant, I think that

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Speaker 6: our kids are never going to forgive us for this

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Speaker 6: if we don't start seriously cutting back on the spending,

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Speaker 6: stopping the borrowing, and making sure we go back to

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Speaker 6: pre COVID levels.

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Speaker 5: Talking to former Ambassador and Governor Nikki Haley Joe Biden,

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Speaker 5: it appears, I think, to almost every single person listening

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Speaker 5: to us right now, a lot of Democrats, Republicans, and

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Speaker 5: independents all overwhelmingly agree. Isn't physically or mentally capable of

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Speaker 5: being president should he be the Democrat nominee in twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty four in your opinion, Nikki? And if he is,

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Speaker 5: do you think that he's going to be able to

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Speaker 5: finish his term in office?

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Speaker 6: No? And don't I think this is a shadow campaign

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Speaker 6: for Kamala Harris. I mean, I when I look at it,

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Speaker 6: that's who I'm running against, is Kamala Harris. Because we

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Speaker 6: can't look at Biden and see the decline that he's

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Speaker 6: had in the last couple of years and honestly think

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Speaker 6: that he's going to make it as president till eighty

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Speaker 6: six years old. I think that this is very much

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Speaker 6: they're going to keep him from debating in primary. They're

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Speaker 6: going to get him to be the nominee. We don't

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Speaker 6: know if he's going to actually make it to the election.

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Speaker 6: If he does make it to the election, I don't

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Speaker 6: think he stays long as president. And so I think,

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Speaker 6: you know, I will continue to say a vote for

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Speaker 6: President Biden is a vote for President Harris. And I

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Speaker 6: think that's also why you're seeing them go and spend

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Speaker 6: all this money trying to, you know, change her profile

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Speaker 6: and make her look better than what she is. It

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Speaker 6: is because I think that she is going to be

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Speaker 6: eventually either the nominee or the president if it continues

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Speaker 6: going down the path where Biden wins. And that's exactly

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Speaker 6: why we need to be very focused and understand that

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Speaker 6: we've got to have a new generational leader. We cannot

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Speaker 6: lose this election again. We can't afford to lose the

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Speaker 6: general election and give Biden and Kamala four years because

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Speaker 6: I don't think America would recover from that.

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Speaker 5: One of the big questions we've had on this show

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Speaker 5: is Trump says that twenty twenty was a stolen election,

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Speaker 5: that it was rigged. If Democrats were willing to steal

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Speaker 5: and rig twenty twenty, why would they not do the

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Speaker 5: same thing in twenty twenty four. How do you look

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Speaker 5: at discussing twenty twenty not only retrospectively, but also prospectively

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Speaker 5: as it pertains to twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 6: I think there were a lot of lessons that we

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Speaker 6: should take from twenty twenty. I mean, voter integrity is everything.

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Speaker 6: If you know, if you have people who don't trust

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Speaker 6: the election process, I mean, that can be the weakening

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Speaker 6: point of any country. And so it's really important that

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Speaker 6: we have integrity. I as governor, passed voter ID in

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Speaker 6: South Carolina, and I would vilify for it, but I said,

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Speaker 6: if you've got to show picture ID to buy suit

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Speaker 6: of bet, if you've got to show pictrity to get

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Speaker 6: on a plane, you should have to show pictriarty to

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Speaker 6: protect the integrity of the election process. What we saw

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Speaker 6: happen during COVID was a lot of spending of the

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Speaker 6: rules and you saw secretaries of state do things without

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Speaker 6: their state legislatures. We saw mail out balloting. We saw

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Speaker 6: some inconsistencies there, and you know, while I don't think

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Speaker 6: that changed the results of the elections, I think that

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Speaker 6: should be a wake up call to every American that

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Speaker 6: we need to do everything we can to have election integrity.

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Speaker 6: So I think every state in the country should at

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Speaker 6: least have to do voter IDs. I think we should

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Speaker 6: make sure that when they're abstanitee ballots or any early voting,

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Speaker 6: we should always have to verify signatures and make sure

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Speaker 6: they are who they are. I think when ballots come in,

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Speaker 6: they should be counted at the time, and everybody should

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Speaker 6: get the results of the election on election dage shouldn't

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Speaker 6: have this going two weeks out. And so I don't

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Speaker 6: think we should stop on fighting for election integrity. I

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Speaker 6: think we still have a few states that are concerning

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Speaker 6: and I think that we have to be conscious about that.

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Speaker 6: And I think we also have to understand that whatever

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Speaker 6: the Democrats are doing and the ways they go to

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Speaker 6: get people to vote. Republicans need to do the same thing.

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Speaker 6: It's about getting as many of our people out to

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Speaker 6: vote as possible, and we've got to make sure that

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Speaker 6: we continue to push for voter integrity in the process.

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Speaker 3: Just have one more for you, Ambassador Hayley. We're speaking

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Speaker 3: to Ambassadorniki Haley. She's running for the Republican nomination. What

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Speaker 3: does a Haley What would a Hailey presidency look like

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Speaker 3: with regard to both border security and the tens of

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Speaker 3: millions of illegal immigrants who are currently in the United States.

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Speaker 3: What would your approach me? What would your policy do?

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Speaker 6: Well? First of all, I went four hundred miles down

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Speaker 6: that border, and you are not ready for what I saw.

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Speaker 6: It is unthinkable what those ranchers go through when they

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Speaker 6: get up in the morning and have to see if

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Speaker 6: someone died while they crossed the fence, or pick up

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Speaker 6: whatever little kids were behind. And when I talked to sheriffs,

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Speaker 6: they sat there and said they round up the legal

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Speaker 6: immigrants before seven am, turn them over to border patrol.

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Speaker 6: Border patrol releases them until their court date years from now.

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Speaker 6: And when I talked to border patrol and ask them

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Speaker 6: about their jobs. They said, you want to know what

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Speaker 6: we do. We're glorified babysitters. They don't let us do

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Speaker 6: our jobs. When I was governor in South Carolina, I

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Speaker 6: passed one of the toughest ilegal immigration laws in the country.

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Speaker 6: We did a mandatory everified program that required all of

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Speaker 6: our businesses to prove who they were hiring work here

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Speaker 6: legally in this country. I would do a national e

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Speaker 6: verified program across the country. I would defund sanctuary cities.

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Speaker 6: I would go back to remain in Mexico, because no

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Speaker 6: one wants to remain in Mexico. We've pulled back on

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Speaker 6: the provisions of Title forty two. Instead of eighty seven

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Speaker 6: thousand hours agents going after Middle America, we've put twenty

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Speaker 6: five thousand Border patrol and ICE agents on the ground,

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Speaker 6: and instead of catching release, we would go to catching

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Speaker 6: deport We've got to stop the bleeding. We've got to

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Speaker 6: shut down our borders. We can't have this continue to happen.

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Speaker 6: Five million illegal immigrants have crossed the border. It's unthinkable.

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Speaker 5: Nikki Haley, Ambassador and Governor, We appreciate you. Look forward

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Speaker 5: to talking to you again soon.

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Speaker 6: Thanks Guy to Nicki Haley dot com appreciate that tunnel.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. What are

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Speaker 5: we think of Nicky Haley there? I think that is

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Speaker 5: Is that the second or third time that Nicky's been

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Speaker 5: on the show since she announced for president. I think

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Speaker 5: it's at least the second, It may be the third.

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Speaker 5: Kind of hedged on the question of whether or not

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Speaker 5: to pardon. I thought she was better on some of

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Speaker 5: it felt like her early campaign was very deferential to

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Speaker 5: Trump and she was going after DeSantis more and it

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Speaker 5: felt like to me she went after Trump more in

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Speaker 5: this interview than she did DeSantis.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, look, we gotta ask the questions

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Speaker 3: that we think all of our time. Your time are

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Speaker 3: time best, and that means the things that we think

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Speaker 3: any of you who really want to probe and get

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Speaker 3: some answers. Look, I asked her about the border. I

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Speaker 3: don't think she mentioned what we do with the millions

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Speaker 3: of illegals here in the country.

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Speaker 2: For example.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have time to press her because we had

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Speaker 3: to go to a commercial break. You've only got so

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Speaker 3: much time in a radio interview. She's very she's look,

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Speaker 3: she's very smooth.

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Speaker 2: She she she.

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Speaker 3: Knows the game. I think she came across. I think

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Speaker 3: she always comes across as as a poised professional. The

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Speaker 3: thing for me, though, is whether it's her or any

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Speaker 3: other of the primary candidates, if you're not willing to

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Speaker 3: attack the frontrunner, you're not running for president full stop.

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Speaker 3: So if you're not really running for president, what are

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Speaker 3: you doing? Like why now we know what the answers

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Speaker 3: to that are high profile, you know, more book sales,

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Speaker 3: maybe running for Trump cabinet. But I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: that is the rule any candidate that we would have

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Speaker 3: on if they're not going to And by the way,

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying you don't have the trash Trump. Of

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Speaker 3: course you could say, I think he did a really

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Speaker 3: good job, Comma, but I think I would be better

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Speaker 3: because if you can't answer the I think I would

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Speaker 3: be better than the front runner.

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Speaker 2: Why are you running?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: I just think that's fair. I just think that's the

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Speaker 3: application of basic logic here. So she answered it.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that she answered it well, but I

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Speaker 5: do think it's interesting Buck that you know August is

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Speaker 5: going to be here soon, and what I said August

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Speaker 5: twenty first, the Fox News debate. Trump hasn't committed officially

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Speaker 5: to whether he's going to be in it or not.

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Speaker 5: But if you start to look at some of these numbers,

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Speaker 5: anybody outside of Trump and DeSantis. Now, to be fair,

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Speaker 5: it's still relatively early. But my contention would be that

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Speaker 5: this is this is the time of year when everybody's

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Speaker 5: going on vacation. And my argument would be, if by

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Speaker 5: Labor Day you aren't at five percent or better, right,

687
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Speaker 5: it's really hard for me to believe that you're gonna

688
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Speaker 5: suddenly catch fire and that you're going to be able

689
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Speaker 5: to win an Iowa or New Hampshire right now, buck,

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Speaker 5: Other than Trump and DeSantis, there is not a third

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Speaker 5: candidate that has caught any kind of wave and has

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Speaker 5: in any way crested, by which I mean, correct.

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Speaker 2: Me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 5: I haven't seen anybody else even close to double digits

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Speaker 5: other than Trump and DeSantis.

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Speaker 3: When you look at twenty sixteen, Cruz was double digits

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Speaker 3: and one Iowa, which I think a lot of people

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Speaker 3: now it's worth reminding that Cruz actually won Iowa. It's

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Speaker 3: not like a Trump ran the whole table from the start.

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Speaker 3: Rubio was definitely in the double digits as well.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And I think I'm just just spitting facts here, just

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Speaker 3: speaking truths. I think Casik got into the double digits

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Speaker 3: for a little while there, like, you know, ten percent ish.

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Speaker 3: I think that's right. We should you check me on

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Speaker 3: that one team. I think he'd he was definitely it

707
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Speaker 3: was Trump in the Trump never lost the lead, right,

708
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Speaker 3: It was Trump and then Cruz and then Rubio, who's

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Speaker 3: coming on the show Friday.

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Speaker 2: There you go, nice teas there, and we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: pens on as well. Yeah, we'll have pens on next next, week.

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Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah, I think it's Thursday.

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Speaker 3: This wait, tomorrow. I thought it was next Wednesday. Okay, sorry,

714
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Speaker 3: I got to read the show schedule. So yeah, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna have them on tomorrow and that will be very interesting.

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Speaker 3: And look, we we just think that, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: the fair way to approach this is that we try

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Speaker 3: to let you hear from these candidates as often as

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Speaker 3: you can. We'll talk about the things that they're saying,

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Speaker 3: and it's for everyone listening to decide how they want

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Speaker 3: to go. And and so that means we got to

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Speaker 3: give everybody a fair shot. I thought, you know are

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Speaker 3: certainly our purpose with Nikki was to give her I

724
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Speaker 3: think it's I think you've started to call her NICKI

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Speaker 3: and then you're like, I mean, ambassador Haleo.

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Speaker 2: It's I get it.

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Speaker 5: I just I mean when you're not it's an interesting question. Right,

728
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Speaker 5: So you're not currently in office? I can I tell

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Speaker 5: you the first name I am.

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Speaker 2: I Am.

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Speaker 3: People disagree with me on this, and I do not

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Speaker 3: care because I feel very strongly and I think I

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Speaker 3: am right. I do not believe in forever titles, period,

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Speaker 3: full stop. Don't believe it. I don't believe it at

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Speaker 3: the president.

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Speaker 5: My exception, by the way, I think if you're ever president,

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Speaker 5: you get to be president. But if you're not an

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Speaker 5: ambassador or a senator or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I faded now I think I think I think the

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Speaker 3: title of an office should stay with the person while

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Speaker 3: they're in office. I don't like this honorific thing. Ambassadors

742
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Speaker 3: keep their titles forever. You know, some members of Congress

743
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Speaker 3: seem to like to keep their title forever. I'm like, nah, nah,

744
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: not not having it now. People might say, what about

745
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Speaker 3: on the military side. That would be the exception I'm

746
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Speaker 3: willing to make, because you know, it's it's a respect

747
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Speaker 3: for the the achievement of the rank at that point

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Speaker 3: in time.

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Speaker 2: But in general, I'm not. I'm not a forever title guy.

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Speaker 2: So I'll just put that out.

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Speaker 5: Just a big kabala hairs guy buck Sexton. Interesting comba.

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00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 5: When so rough, We're gonna go down to Miami. We'll

753
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Speaker 5: talk about what's taking place there. We'll talk about the

754
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 5: question that that we have been debating on this show

755
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Speaker 5: long before most were discussing it. You heard Nicky Haley

756
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Speaker 5: answer it about whether or not Trump would deserve a pardon.

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Speaker 5: All that and more Next