1 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: They see these one Bills Live presented by called Light 2 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: to Health. What's Up? Welcome everybody into One Bills Live. 3 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: Sorry no Chris Brown or Steve Tasker today, but you've 4 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: got the next best people I think. I mean, I'm 5 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: a little biased here, but Maddie glab and christ Passo 6 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: of CBS Sports filling in for Brownie and Tasker. They'll 7 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: be back in tomorrow. Taskers out of town, so is Brownie. 8 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Of course the offseason they deserve it, but we're gonna 9 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: be filling in today from one, two three, We've got 10 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: a loaded show. We're going to talk about a lot 11 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: of NFL draft content, which is perfect because Chris is 12 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: an NFL draft analyst and he I think has been 13 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: releasing mock drafts once a week, maybe even before the 14 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: season ended. When did you start this? This the start 15 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: of the season. Oh my gosh. At CBS Sports, they 16 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: have just seen the traffic for those they just go 17 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: through the Cliff Bay baby, even in September. So I'll 18 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: just say, when the draft is finally here and I 19 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: get to publish my last mock draft of the cycle, 20 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: throw a party. I will definitely throw a party. Be 21 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: very excited. I don't hate mock drafts, but after a while, 22 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: it's a little redundant. At this point of the year, 23 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: do you hate him the most when we are so 24 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: far out from the NFL Draft, do you start to 25 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: like am more as Yes, absolutely, the combine begins as 26 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: free agency happens, and you actually are like, hey, I 27 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: think I have an idea of what these teams finally 28 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: want to do hundred percent. And I think it's because 29 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: in September and October I get the angry comments from 30 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: fans where I'm like, guys, we're like nine months away 31 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: from the draft, don't be too upset. But yes, at 32 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: this point of the year, especially after free agency, things 33 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: have kind of crystallized a little bit. We understand where 34 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: teams need to go, where they probably will go in 35 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: the first couple of rounds, so it's a lot easier 36 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: to do those mock drafts. We'll certainly get to those 37 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: later in the show, but September and October, I'm not 38 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: the biggest It's not the easiest thing to do. It's 39 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: tough because you're like you're throwing paint at a wall 40 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: and you're like, does this look good? I don't know. 41 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, but so we're going to get into 42 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: that later. We're also going to go through the latest 43 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: mock draft Watch five point z I believe it is 44 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: six point zero is going to be released on Friday, 45 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: so we're going to go through that with Chris. We're 46 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: gonna go through some names and something that is exciting. 47 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: Thanks to my husband, who knows how to use Excel 48 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: spreadsheets I do not, he helped me organize the one 49 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: hundred and one mock drafts I've tracked so far based 50 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: off of popular names and popular position groups. So we'll 51 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: finally have those numbers, and we'll have them as we 52 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: continue on leading up to the NFL Draft at the 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: end of April, less than a month away. It is 54 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: wild out here. We also have Cynthia Freeland of NFL Network. 55 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: She's joining us at one thirty to talk about the Bills, 56 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: moves in free agency the NFL, and in her thoughts 57 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: about the NFL Draft movie some names that she likes 58 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: for the Bills. At that number twenty seven spot, We've 59 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: got a Twitter question for you guys today. It is 60 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: aside from quarterback, which position is off the table for 61 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: the Bills in Round one of the NFL draft. You 62 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: can tweet at us or give us a call at 63 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty. The phone lines are open. 64 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: What position group are you like? You know what? This 65 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: team does not need this, They already have enough of them. 66 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: There are a couple and we'll get into that. We 67 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: also definitely want to hear from you guys. But owners 68 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: meetings are wrapping up and the latest out of meetings 69 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: was all the new rules that come out ahead of 70 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three season, and again the owners are 71 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: going to meet again in May, so there could be 72 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: some new rules that come out after that. But there's 73 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: there's a couple that are worth talking about. Hot topic, 74 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: especially for the players is the ability to wear number zero. 75 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: Are you a fan of zero? I'm not usually I 76 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: like Gilbert. I like Gilbert Arenas Washington Wizards shooting guard 77 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: back in my high school days. He was a lot 78 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: of fun. He was agent zero. I just feel like 79 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: you should wear a number. Maybe I'm a traditionalist at heart, 80 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: but I do know, and just from like checking on 81 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Twitter since that news came out, a lot of players 82 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: are really excited about this. And for a league that 83 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: doesn't do a lot with the jersey number changes, like, 84 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: it's not very often that this happens for there to 85 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: be a change on that front. I think that's why 86 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: a lot of these younger players are pretty happy. Yeah, 87 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: it excludes defensive linemen and offensive linemen, so they can't 88 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 1: wear zero. That would have been very weird. I saw 89 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: for the Bills. I saw nihem Hines tweet out like, hey, 90 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: we can wear zero now, I might have to look 91 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: into that, and then read ferguson our Long Snapper quote 92 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: retweeted and said, sorry, buddy, I've already put in for it. 93 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: So we'll see who's gonna wear zero on the Bills 94 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: next year. I would I would assume there's gonna be 95 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: somebody on every single NFL team that wants to rock zero. Yeah, 96 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:27,119 Speaker 1: I think so. And then other than zero, also having 97 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: to do with what players like or dislike, we did 98 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: find out that the NFL has approved two Thursday night 99 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: games in a season, which I know our players aren't 100 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: the biggest fans of, just because of what it takes, 101 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: what goes into a short week. A short week is 102 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: even hard for somebody like me, and I can't imagine 103 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: what it's like on the players, just flipping from a 104 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: Sunday night game and having to play or Sunday day 105 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: game and then having to turn around and play on Thursday. 106 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: It's a lot of work to get there. It's a 107 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: lot on your body, and it's a lot of prep 108 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: in a condensed week, and having to do that twice 109 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: in an NFL season. I know the season is longer, 110 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: so okay, it makes I guess it makes sense here. 111 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: The NFL season could be even longer in a few years. 112 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: Who knows what's going to happen, But yeah, two Thursday 113 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: night games. What do you think about that. I'm not 114 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: a fan either in terms of just someone that watches 115 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: the games, that has to analyze the games and certain 116 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: nights and late nights. To have you another chance for 117 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: that for the Bills, and I think they're going to 118 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: be in a lot of primetime games. When that schedule 119 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: is released in May, will certainly see that to add 120 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: another possibility Thursday during the middle of the week. Now, 121 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: if the league was able to and this is like 122 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: way beyond what I can comprehend in terms of making 123 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: the schedule, if they were able to kind of bake 124 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: in like it would lead into your bye week or 125 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: come after your bye week. I would understand that a 126 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: lot more, and I think the players would be a 127 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: lot more for that, But to have two you obviously 128 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: don't have two bye weeks now. You can't do that. 129 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: So the players are not happy about it. Honestly, I 130 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: don't think the coaches are that happy about it either, 131 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: not as much game landing goes in. I think in general, 132 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: the product that we see on Thursday Night Football just 133 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: you can have two good teams playing each other, just 134 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: not as good. That tackling isn't as good. A lot 135 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: more players are out because of injury, so to add 136 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: another Thursday night game, I get it from a ratings perspective, 137 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: and that's more important than anything else to the league. 138 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: At times, I'm just not a fan of it whatsoever, 139 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: and I think that's kind of the overarching thought from players, coaches, 140 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: and even their fans. Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, 141 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: shout out to Amazon Prime. I thought Thursday Night Football 142 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: this year was really really fun to watch. I love 143 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: the talent that they had on it. I thought they 144 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: did a great job with it. But it is a 145 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: tough ask for the players, and you wonder if a 146 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: move like this, if adding two Thursday games onto an 147 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: NFL season for teams, you wonder if you're starting to 148 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: see into the future of are we going to live 149 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: in a world where maybe the season is longer by 150 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: a game or two. Maybe maybe we're looking at a 151 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: nineteen week season or a twenty weeks season. I don't 152 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: know how many years down the road from now, but 153 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: they did add another one in the last couple of years, 154 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: So I would assume the more ratings you can get, 155 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: the more money you can make for TV, the more 156 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: money that these players can make. There's you can convince 157 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: people to keep adding one. Where's the number that you stop? 158 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: And then alongside that, you wonder, is there going to 159 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: be a world where teams get two bye weeks in 160 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: a season. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. 161 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: I think to your previous point, Yes, the league loves 162 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: the ratings, and the owners are not just going to 163 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: say we make enough money, we're good. We will see 164 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: a extended schedule I think in the next five to 165 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: ten years in the NFL. And with that, because the 166 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: players are already put through the riggers so much physically. 167 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: If you're playing in the Super Bowl, you're playing twenty two, 168 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: twenty three weeks at times, if you're counting the preseason 169 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: as well, you've got to have that second bye week. 170 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: So maybe that would kind of coincide with Hey, we're 171 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: on Thursday Night football twice, but we do have that 172 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: October bye week and the early December bye week. I 173 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: would like that a lot more or for the NFL 174 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: as this schedule continues to grow, and I think it will. 175 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: And another thing with that, the more you extend the season, 176 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: even if it's just adding in a second bye week. 177 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: Maybe we're stuck at at seventeen here and we're like, hey, 178 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: these guys need a bye week. You're still extending the season, 179 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: and you're still extending another week where people are talking 180 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: about the NFL. That's another thing. This league has done 181 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: such a good job of making it a year round 182 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: sport really with all the tent pole events that happen, 183 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: I mean owners meetings. We're talking about owners meetings right 184 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: now and it's March twenty ninth, and we've talked about 185 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: free agency at length, where we've been talking about the 186 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: NFL Draft at length, and it's a month away. There's 187 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: always enough to talk about with the NFL. There really 188 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: is only one month a year June, where the NFL 189 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: is not at the forefront of the news cycle from 190 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: all the way even in May. And I know this 191 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: as a draft analyst. Everyone wants to hear about the 192 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: draft and how their teams did and how the grades are. 193 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: Once we're in July, everyone's thinking ahead to training camp 194 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: and the preseason. So it's already an eleven month league. 195 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: I think at this point to add another week onto 196 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: the schedule makes sense in terms of what the league 197 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: wants and what the owners wants for rating. And I 198 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: also think, and this is I'm not going to pretend 199 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: like I thought of this. If you go one more 200 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: week out, we get the super Bowl on President's Day 201 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: weekend if they don't want to move it to Saturday. 202 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: And I know Kyle Brandt has pushed that this super 203 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: Bowl Saturday. If it stays on Sunday and then it 204 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: coincides with President's Day weekend, a lot of people can 205 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: have holiday. It's a national hell, and people have said 206 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: the day after the super Bowl should be a national holiday. 207 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: So you wouldn't have to just go through, you know, 208 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: jumping through federal hoops. It could just be one more 209 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: week get to mid February instead, of early February for 210 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, whether it's another bye week, whether it's 211 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: another game eighteen weeks, whatever the case may be, to 212 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: get to President's Day weekend where the NFL could just 213 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: slide in and say, oh, we're going to be the 214 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: day before President's Day. Everyone could watch the Super Bowl, 215 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: stay up a little later. The halftime show's crazy long 216 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: will be a lot better of a viewing experience for 217 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: a larger audience. A lot of younger kids could ultimately 218 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: watch the super Bowl then too. All right, We're going 219 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: to see what happens over the next few years in 220 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: the NFL, because I can definitely see them adding a game, 221 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: adding another bye week to that schedule. Another rule change 222 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: that I am a big fan of and makes a 223 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: lot of sense. And the Bills were one of the 224 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: teams that helped propose this rule change, along with several 225 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: other teams. As I was reading this, it felt like 226 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: more than half the league wanted this is cut down 227 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: day ahead of the season is now just going to 228 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: be one day instead of a few different days. As 229 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: you make your way through training camp, which you know, 230 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: the first cutdown I think is like five players you're 231 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: cutting and to just cut down five, and it's not 232 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: like it's a week into training camp. You do get 233 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: to see these guys a little bit, but still, I 234 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: think it's better to be able to see everybody throughout 235 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: the entirety of training camp or most of training camp, 236 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: and then you can do your big cut down. It 237 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: gives the guys a better shot, It gives the coaches 238 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: more to look at, and I think it also gives 239 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: players who do get cut, you do have a bigger 240 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: body of work when you're going to other teams or 241 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: when you're trying to get signed by other teams. I 242 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: think it just makes sense for everybody, the guys who 243 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: are getting cut or who are not going to get cut, 244 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: who get to be on the bills or whatever team longer. 245 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: It also was giving them more money in their pockets, 246 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: which I also think is nice as well. It's a 247 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: rule that makes a lot of sense because also if 248 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: a team is stuck with injuries during training camp, you 249 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: might be signing guys back that you just cut, and 250 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: it's it's a weird place to live in if you're 251 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: one of those five that maybe doesn't even even make 252 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: it after first cuts. Yeah, that's all perfectly said I'm 253 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: surprised that this wasn't instituted last year when they cut 254 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: down to three preseason games, because it was almost like, 255 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: you're only going to give these fringe roster players really 256 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: two preseason games to show themselves and right away. Like 257 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: last year during one of the preseason broadcasts, I remember 258 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: Brandon being mentioning that he would like to see it 259 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: extended out because they are scouring the film of not 260 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: just practice at Saint John Fisher and certainly this is 261 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: the case for all teams in the NFL, but those 262 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: preseason games and you want to be able to get 263 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: a bigger sample size for those players where you're not 264 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: sure are they going to maybe be cut but be 265 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: on the practice squad or are you just gonna flat 266 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: out release them. So it's weird that the NFL didn't 267 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: have this in line with the cutdown of the preseason 268 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: schedule from four to three. Now that we'll ultimately see 269 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: it this year, it's it makes for a lot better product, 270 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: I think, for the preseason and then for these gms 271 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: and scouting departments to be able to make better decisions 272 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: in late August. I think also with the way the 273 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: NFL and training camp has changed over the last several years. 274 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: You're doing a lot less tackling, you're doing a lot 275 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: less hitting practices, and rightfully, so, there's nothing wrong with this. 276 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: You're doing a lot less hitting. It's less intense than 277 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: it used to be than the days when you were 278 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: doing two days. And for that reason, coaches really believe 279 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: and think, I need to see more out of these 280 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: guys to understand if they deserve a place on my roster, 281 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: whether that's on my active game day roster, whether that's 282 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: on the roster, or whether that's on the practice squad. 283 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: So I think this helps it. I think it also 284 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: really after COVID happened, when when these coaches were saying, 285 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: we're not getting enough looks of these guys to understand 286 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: if if they're meant to be on this team or not. 287 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: So I think it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, absolutely. 288 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: And the injury element two that it is better that 289 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: during training camp we're not seeing as much hitting because 290 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: those are the worst type of injuries, the preseason injuries. 291 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: And there's been lots of studies done, a lot of 292 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: data that suggests maybe don't to be hitting your own 293 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: teammates necessarily because you're going to get hit a lot 294 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: throughout a maybe twenty week season, so the coaches can't 295 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: really get the full picture of a player until probably 296 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: two or three preseason games. And then you also factor 297 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: in that a lot of the starters, or maybe when 298 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: you're trying to determine as someone the number two linebacker 299 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: or the number three linebacker, they don't play a lot 300 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: in the preseason. Yeah, so to get more time out there, 301 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: I think makes a lot of sense. One cutdown day 302 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: it is going to be mass chaos a little bit 303 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: more than it's been thinking, but it certainly makes sense 304 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: logistically for roster makeup as you move into the regular season. Yeah, 305 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: that day, we are sitting in the offices just kind 306 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: of awaiting what's going to happen, awaiting when we get 307 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: that list from the coaching staff and when you add 308 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: more names to that list and kind of sift through 309 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: this is what the final roster is going to look like. 310 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: It is going to be a little bit more of 311 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: a crazy day for the people covering the NFL and 312 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: for the players who are finding out am I on 313 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: this team? Am I not on this team? But Hey, 314 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: it's going to be more for people to talk about 315 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: you're going to have more things to talk about at 316 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: length versus just the final cutdown day. One last point 317 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: that I wanted to make there, because we're not going 318 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: to get that first cutdown where there's like five players. 319 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: What I think, like what I envision will happen like 320 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: this August is we'll get this huge list of cuts 321 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: and it will be which players are going to be 322 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: brought back to the practice squad and which of these 323 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: five are just flat out being cut. So that's going 324 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: to be the new differentiation where when there was the 325 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: first cutdown, you're like, all right, these guys are not 326 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: being brought back. Yes, Now we're going to get a 327 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: bigger list, and it will really become more so, Hey, 328 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: which players are going to be retained? Because the Bills 329 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: have seen it all teams in the NFL understand the 330 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: importance of a practice squad in today's NFL with injuries, 331 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: you need those practice squad elevations to not be liabilities 332 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: when they're on the field. So that's what I think 333 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: it's going to ultimately happen. Which guys are actually going 334 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: to be brought back and be part of the team 335 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: heading into the regular season. Maybe not the fifty three 336 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: man roster, but that ever important practice squad. Yeah, that's 337 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: a great point, and we've seen for the Bills and 338 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: in the last few seasons guys have gotten poached off 339 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: that practice squad roster. Guys that have been draft picks 340 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: in the six and seventh round that would have a 341 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: place on the Bills practice squad can't even make it 342 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: there because other teams want to use them. And we 343 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: saw that with Isaiah Hodgens this year with the New 344 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: York Giants. He went on to have an incredible first 345 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: season with them and it will be a pivotal piece 346 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: to their offense in this coming season. In twenty twenty three, 347 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: the Bills have been It's been a little quiet on 348 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: the free agency front for the Bills. I at least 349 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: as of now. They did make quite a few moves 350 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: in the last couple weeks, and that makes sense. We 351 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: knew Brandon bean Or at least he said it wasn't 352 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: going to be a crazy free agency for this team 353 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: based on where they were out with the salary cap. 354 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: But Monday evening at five o'clock, we found out the 355 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: Bills resigned offensive lineman David Quest to a one year deal. 356 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: There were several depth offensive linemen that we're going to 357 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: become free agents. So Questenbury is one of those guys 358 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: who is going to come back, and it's been reported 359 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: he has not signed yet with the team. It's been 360 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: reported that the Bills are signing free agent safety Taylor 361 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: Rap to a one year deal. He was with the Rams. 362 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: He was a second round pick in twenty nineteen out 363 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: of Washington. This is a guy who started in a 364 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 1: lot of games for the Rams, and so you wonder 365 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: is the riding on the wall for this Taylor Rap 366 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: kid to come in who's still young, to come in 367 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: and maybe take the place of Jordan Poyer or Micah 368 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: Hide down the road, not saying this year, but down 369 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: the road, because both of those players are on short 370 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: term deals right now and possibly heading towards retirement. We 371 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: don't know what their future looks like. We don't know 372 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: if they're going to continue to be on the Bills, 373 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: continue to be on short term deals. But this might 374 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: be somebody who's kind of waiting in the wing for 375 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: that opportunity. You would expect, though, that he would still 376 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: be involved in the defense this year because of the 377 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: games that he started in last year for the Rams. Yeah, 378 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: I think the safety position has become so vital in 379 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 1: today's NFL because it's a job. It's a position that 380 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: has significant job responsibilities that you have to cover the slot, 381 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: you have to range from the deep middle to make 382 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: plays in coverage. Tarn Johnson that slot defender type is 383 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: so important today. So for the Bills, I think last 384 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: year they got to see that their depth of safety 385 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: was maybe not as good as they hoped or expected. 386 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: They had a lot of free agents at the safety position. 387 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: They probably wanted to upgrade the depth behind Jordan Poyer 388 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: and michae Hyde. Given their ages too, beyond just the 389 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: shorter term deals that they're on right now, they're both 390 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: on the wrong side of thirty. It makes sense to 391 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: bring in a young piece that can maybe be rotated 392 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: in throughout the season. He plays well, suddenly he is 393 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: familiar with this defense, understands the culture in Buffalo, the team. 394 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: It's easier to resign a player after he's been here 395 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: for a season. He doesn't turn twenty six until December, 396 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: so after a year where both safeties were injured at 397 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: certain points of the season, obviously might a hide early 398 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: for a long stretch of the season, they got to see, hey, 399 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: we need to upgrade the depth at the safety spot. 400 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: And I think the same is true with David Quessenbury. 401 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: The Bills had a lot of offensive lineman dinged up 402 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 1: throughout the season, and when you have Josh Allen, you 403 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: can never have too much protection in front of him. 404 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: Questenbury is that maybe not amazing blocker, but he's a 405 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: very vital swing tackle that can play either spot, which 406 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: is not a very easy thing to do. And you 407 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: wonder once Taylor Raps signs with the Bills, which he 408 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: has not done yet, we have seen We'll get into 409 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: the numbers later on in the show, but we have 410 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 1: seen safety. At least in the beginning of when we 411 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: started tracking these mocked drafts, safety was a popular position 412 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: for the Bills. Now this was even before Jordan Poyer 413 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: got resigned to this team. Now you see possibly another 414 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: safety heading to this team as well, and you probably 415 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: start to think which safety does have some There're some 416 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: good names in this year's draft class. It was also 417 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 1: a heavy position group and free agency this year, you 418 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: wonder if maybe we're not going to see as many 419 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: safeties get mocked to the Bills because they're adding not one, 420 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: but two to their rosters. Yeah, and I think a 421 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: lot of the Brian Branch from Alabama being mocked to 422 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: the Bills and popular name. You saw tracking hundred and 423 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: one mock drafts and I've written about one hundred and 424 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: one mock drafts that everyone expected Jordan Poyer was not 425 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: going to resign, and then the safety market was not 426 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: as lucrative for a lot of these players, and there 427 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: were a bunch that Jordan Poyer resigns for a lot 428 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: last time what people thought. Yeah, for Taylor Rapp, a 429 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: starting safety who's won a Super Bowl and was a 430 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: second round pick, for him to be signed in the 431 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: third week of free agency, it kind of is telling. 432 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's telling that the safety position in free 433 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: agency was not doling out these monster deals that we've 434 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: seen in the past. So safety is I would say 435 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: probably out for the Bills. I ever say never with 436 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. We don't know how the board is 437 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: going to fall with those first twenty six picks, but 438 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: it seems like they had a need they had to 439 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: address the position, and they did it by resigning Ployer 440 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: and then adding a young important death piece that it's 441 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: going to be part of the defense in Taylor rep 442 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: if he signs this deal in Buffalo. If they do 443 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: add a safety, it'll probably be later later on, And 444 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: you start to wonder whether it's the rest of free agency, 445 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: the moves that this team could make with Taylor Rapp, 446 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: the reports that he is coming to Buffalo, and what 447 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: the moves this team is going, what moves this team 448 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: is going to make in the NFL draft, if that 449 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: is kind of a telltale sign as to what this 450 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: defense could look like under Sean McDermott in twenty twenty three, 451 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 1: because we now know he will be the play caller 452 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: of this defense. He has been a play caller before. 453 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: He has been deemed as an aggressive play caller. Ron 454 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: Rivera was asked about his play calling style at owners meetings. 455 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: I asked about I asked Ron Rivera about Sean McDermott 456 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: during the NFL Combine and he said, he is a 457 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: very aggressive play caller. So you wonder if some of 458 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: these pieces that are getting added to this roster that 459 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: do have the potential of playing this season, if that 460 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: is kind of showing what type of defenses could look like. 461 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: Not saying that they're going to completely change the defense. 462 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: They're not saying that they're going to be a three 463 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: four team instead of a four three team or really 464 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: a four to five team because they're in Nickels so much. 465 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: But you I'm very interested to see what Sean McDermott 466 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: does as a defensive play caller and if we see 467 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of differences, because when he was asked 468 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: about it at owners meetings, he didn't say we're going 469 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: to switch everything up. He didn't say we're going to 470 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: completely change our identity, but he did say every play 471 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: caller kind of has a stamp to what they do. Yeah, 472 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: here's why I think this Taylor reps signing does kind 473 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: of indicate that Sean McDermott will be more aggressive. In 474 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: most cases, when you're blitzing, you're leaving someone exposed in coverage. 475 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: If the Bills are going to utilize more three safety 476 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: looks this season, which I think is certainly in the cards, 477 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: after you sign a starting caliber player in Taylor Rap 478 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: that's got fresh legs, that's very young, you can blitz 479 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: more because suddenly you're not leaving a linebacker out there 480 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: in coverage, or you're not dropping a defensive van who 481 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: looks awkward in space when he's sinking in coverage. You 482 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: have a third safety out there. Taylor Ramp is also 483 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: a good blitzer, So I think to add more coverage 484 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: ability might only seem like it's something that's going to 485 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: impact the defensive backfield, But I really think that it 486 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: does give Sean McDermott more leeway, more of a runway 487 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: to say, hey, we are going to be more aggressive. 488 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: We're gonna blitz Jordan Poyer on this side of the 489 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: field because on the other side we have Micah Hyde, 490 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, tarn Johnson, and Tredavious White. It does make 491 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: things easier when you're really good in coverage and just 492 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: have players who are more apt to cover a safety 493 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: as opposed to a linebacker. And this was a team 494 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: starting off last season before von Miller got injured, this 495 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: was a team that bl it's at one of the 496 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: lowest rates in the NFL. That number did start to 497 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: shift once von Miller got injured because they weren't getting 498 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: that type of pressure that they needed from the front 499 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: front four. You saw them blitzing a lot more. So 500 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,239 Speaker 1: you wonder kind of how that's gonna work with von 501 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: Miller I'm excited about it. This has been a defense 502 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: that has been a top five, top three defense since 503 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott and Leslie Fraser really came into this building. 504 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: So it's going to be really intriguing to see where 505 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: this defense goes under a different type of play caller. 506 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: Just thinking about the type of coach that Sean McDermott is, 507 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: I've got to imagine this dude is working at his 508 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: craft right now in the off season when guys get 509 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: time off, when you're spending more time with your family, 510 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: and I'm sure he is doing that as well. But 511 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: he is somebody who is such a hard worker, and 512 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: I think is such a great example for this team 513 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: in terms of the work that he puts in. I mean, 514 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: you would hear after he would speak to media, or 515 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: the day after games when he would speak to media. 516 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: If this team was going to be on a short 517 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: week and they were playing on a Sunday night game 518 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: and then heading into short week, oftentimes we would talk 519 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: to him and he would say, yeah, I have I 520 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: didn't leave, I stayed overnight. And you imagine the work 521 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: that he's putting in to get ready to call this 522 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: defense in the off season. It's a lot probably, yeah, 523 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's a lot more on his plate, but 524 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: he's done it before. Even early on in his Bills 525 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: head coaching career, he was part of the play calling 526 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: duties on the defensive side, So he's done it not 527 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: just as a defensive coordinator, but as a head coach, 528 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: and I think he understands that he needs to evolve 529 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: as a head coach as a play caller because the 530 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: league is constantly evolving. And you're right, there's been no 531 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 1: indications that Sean McDermott doesn't put in the work that's needed. 532 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: And now with this on his plate, I think he 533 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: will take that new responsibility and say, look, I need 534 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: to do a little bit more in the off season 535 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: and at a micro level during the week during the 536 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: regular season game planning to get prepared for the upcoming opponent. 537 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: Other news notes from free agency before he had to break, 538 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: it was reported that ex Ravens defensive lineman Kalais Campbell 539 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: is going to sign a one year deal with the Falcons. 540 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: He spoke at length with coaching staff and with people 541 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: in their front office and really believes in what they're doing. 542 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: He's been around a young team before and he's going 543 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: to head to a young team and the Falcons, so 544 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: the Falcons are adding on their defense, and he never 545 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: ultimately made it to Buffalo. There was a report that 546 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: he was going to come here to visit. I still 547 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: think that the Bills would like to add some defensive 548 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: tackle depth, and I think that was obvious because they 549 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: were reportedly going to meet with Calais Campbell and they 550 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: met with Jordan Phillips earlier this week. So I'd be 551 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: on the lookout for something on that front because Brandon 552 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: Bean likes these kind of bargain bin free agents to 553 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: add depth on both sides of the ball. Yeah, I 554 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: would expect defensive tackles, a position maybe that they're not 555 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: done within free agency, and also a position that they 556 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: could attack through the NFL Draft here in a few weeks. 557 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: All right, stick with us here because when we return, 558 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: we've got Cynthia Freeland coming on with us from Film Network. 559 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: She's going to dive into the Bills free agency with 560 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: us and also preview the NFL Draft. Don't go anywhere here. 561 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: On One Bills Live, We're presented by Khalid to Health 562 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, we're back on one 563 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: Bills live waited on Miss Cynthia Freeland of NFL Network, 564 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: But for now we can dip into the tweet sheet. 565 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: Our question of the day, aside from quarterback, which position 566 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: is off the table for the Bills in Round one 567 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft. In first, Chris, I want to 568 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: get your opinion on this. What position group do you 569 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: think this team is good on? All right, I think 570 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: running back is a low hanging fruit, but I'll let 571 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: you speak on that, especially after signing Damian Harris. I'll 572 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: go edge rusher. I mean, von Miller's age certainly could 573 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: be a factor, but aja epinessa boogie basham. Do they 574 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: do any other or make any other signings at the 575 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: edge rusher position. I think Gregory Russo obviously being there, 576 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: that's a spot where in round one I think it 577 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: would be redundant for the Bills to ultimately make that 578 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: pick at that position. The board's not going to fall 579 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: so badly for the Bills that they just have to 580 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: pick the best edge rusher available. You have a more 581 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: aggressive play caller and Sean McDermot potentially this season to 582 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: generate pressure on the quarterback. There's a lot of other 583 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: spots I don't think the Bills have a ton of holes, 584 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of other positions that I think 585 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: would make more sense to get that top tier, big 586 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: time first round talent than the drusher position. Yeah, we 587 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: kind of looked at each other like we don't want 588 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: to say, say the same position, but what do you think? 589 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: And it was running back and edge rusher, And honestly, 590 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: I've seen one edge rusher mock to this team. So 591 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: it's also a people geting group that people understand, and 592 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: it's a position group that this team has gone after 593 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: in the draft in the last couple of years. So 594 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: it makes sense that all right, shy away from this 595 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: this season. If you want to draft one, maybe do 596 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: it later in the later rounds. But yeah, running back, 597 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: I think is an easy answer for anybody based on that. 598 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: Dami In Harris signing and be Jean Robinson has just 599 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: been the hottest name out there for the Bills from 600 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: people who are on the outside, national analysts, just people 601 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: doing mock drafts. And I totally understand where you're coming from. 602 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: This is an incredible playmaker, somebody who could change this team. 603 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: But because of the offense this team runs, and because 604 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: of your Damien Harris, which Brandon being alluded to signing 605 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: somebody like Damien Harris when he was talking about free 606 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: agency after the Bills made some of those initial moves 607 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: in free agency, he said, we are going to go 608 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: after adding depth to our running back room. What we're 609 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: looking for is a bigger back. And you didn't know 610 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: if bigger back meant like, are we gonna go after 611 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: a two hundred fifty pound guy? Are we going to 612 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: go after somebody that's over two hundred pounds? What is 613 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: a bigger back in their eyes? And they signed Damien Harris, 614 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: and you see, this is a bigger back in this offense. 615 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: This is what they're looking for in this offense. They're 616 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: not an offense that is looking for a two hundred 617 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: and fifty pound running back. I don't think they'll ever 618 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: be that. That's what Sean McDermott said. So I don't 619 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: think Bejean Robinson would make sense for this team. Yeah, 620 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: And just quickly on Jean Robinson and the connection to 621 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: the Bills. In the mock draft world, it's become like 622 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: a mock draft tradition that in the back part of 623 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: the first round, the top running back it was Travis 624 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: Etana a couple of years ago, Breecee Hall last year. 625 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: Every mock, it seemed like every other mock had the 626 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: Bills picking a running back. They also have Josh Allen, 627 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: and they could look to the Chiefs, who picked Clyde 628 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: Edwards Hilaire the end of the first round a couple 629 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: of years ago ultimately turned out to be a disaster 630 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: for them. When you have an elite quarterback, you don't 631 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: need to prioritize the running back spot. Yeah, I totally 632 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: believe it all right. Joining us now is NFL media 633 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: analytics expert Cynthia Freelance. Cynthia, thanks for taking the time 634 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: to be on with us. So good to see great 635 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: to see you. I just got I live in southern 636 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: California and I just got cotton what can only be 637 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: described as a torrential downpourse, so taking the dog out, 638 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: so excuse my wet hair, but yeah, that it was, why, 639 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, in California. Nonetheless, and here we are 640 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: in Buffalo where we're getting text messages that say it's 641 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: gonna change. The weather's gonna change it at four o'clock 642 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 1: from forties to gusty winds and snow. So you know 643 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: what we feel you over here in Western New York, Cynthia. 644 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: I know you did a mock draft ahead of free agency. 645 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: I hear there is another one coming out soon this week. 646 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: So do you want to tell us about who you 647 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: think the Bills should pick at number twenty seven in 648 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: your latest mock draft that's going to come out? So, 649 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: I too agree that a running back doesn't necessarily make sense. 650 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: And even though I like Bejean Robinson and think he 651 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: is the most dynamic back in this draft, I actually 652 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: gave the Bills Cam Smith, who to me like getting 653 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: a lot of depth in this secondary, especially since the 654 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: secondary is an area where there was a lot of 655 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: injuries last season. And by the way, this is a 656 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: team that uses five or more defensive backs over ninety 657 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: percent of the time. I know Leslie Fraser is not 658 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: going to be calling the play is this year, but 659 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily anticipate that to change too much. But 660 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: Cam Smith's ability to really be a playmaker, like right 661 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 1: from the jump, would have so much nice upside for them. 662 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm looking at like his BCS teams 663 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: and where he ranks in terms of change of direction, speed, 664 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: meaning adapting to what happens in front of him, and 665 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: that's a really key component, especially in this nightmare of 666 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: an AFC, and especially the AFC East, where you're going 667 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: to have a lot of different types of passes and 668 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: a lot of different strategies to try to stop them. 669 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: What do you think about that, Chris, Actually, that is 670 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: music to my ears because Cam Smith is my number 671 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: one cornerback in this draft class for a lot of 672 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: the reasons that Cynthia just pointed out. His twenty twenty 673 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: one was better than this past season, and it was 674 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: kind of the classic Two years ago they threw at 675 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: him and he made a ton of plays on the football. 676 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: Then in twenty twenty two they're like, let's not throw 677 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: to that side of the field where Cam Smith is. 678 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 1: And then it would also be beyond just being an 679 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: instant impact guy, which I think because Cam Smith in 680 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: the CEC, battle tested, there can be that it's a 681 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: long term solution as well. That twenty twenty four and 682 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: beyond the future of Dane Jackson a little bit uncertain. 683 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: It would make sense for a team like Cynthia said, 684 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: that runs the most nickel defense in the NFL. Yeah, 685 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: I agree. I think it makes sense for the future 686 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: of this team, the guys that they do have on 687 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: this roster right now. Okay, fine, but like going down 688 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: the road, you're gonna have to re up at that position. 689 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: What's the future of Tardavious White as well? What does 690 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: his future look like? We saw him come off that injury, 691 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: and yes he did show progress, but it wasn't like 692 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: he was the same Turnavious White. Hopefully he will be 693 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: this season. Cynthia. As you look at this team and 694 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: the moves that they made in free agency, what are 695 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: some names that stick out to you that you really like? 696 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: What Brandon Bean did in the last few weeks. Well, 697 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: let's just like start with the most obvious thing, and 698 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: the answer is Von Miller. And I understand that happened 699 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: last year, but let's not forget that those big moves 700 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: last year. We'll still pay dividends this year because Von 701 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: got hurt and basically this entire team was limping to 702 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: the finish line last season. So when I'm looking at 703 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: who they get back and Trudavious White, you talked about 704 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: it having another you know, eight or nine months to 705 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: potentially get even more healthy. These are not like this 706 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: is not a division or a team that like they 707 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: get everyone's best. They're not like a you know, so 708 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: you're not getting like some like okay, this is some 709 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: sort of sleeper game or whatever. No, you're getting everyone's 710 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,479 Speaker 1: best people game plan specifically for the Bills every single week, 711 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: and if you're missing some of those key pieces then 712 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: you're really not get necessarily you know, getting those back 713 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: makes a big difference. So Brandon didn't have to do 714 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: as much this offseason as he has in other off seasons. 715 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: But I like what happened with the old line. I 716 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: think really trying to figure out this is an old 717 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: line that if you if you map how far apart 718 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: they stand compared to other teams, they actually have more 719 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: space between the A gaps and the B gaps than 720 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: other teams. Part of that is because that's how Josh 721 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: Allen plays the best, and when you have a guy 722 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: it's as dynamic as Josh, like, you can take up 723 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: more space and create more spread situations for yourself. Awesome, 724 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: love all of that. So I like the fit there 725 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: really creates a lot of upside and clear the right 726 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: amount of caps bringing people back, but the number one 727 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: move and look again, it's we're rolling it back, Jordan 728 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: point er. Jordan like bringing him back. Now you have 729 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: Mica Hyde of course become coming back as well, so 730 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: that too safety situation. We've seen how dynamic they've been 731 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: for years. So at the end of the day, like 732 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily need to be a slew of new names. 733 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: It can be the guys that they really believe in 734 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 1: coming back and continuity is a huge deal. So keeping 735 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: your guys together, that will help optimize for a quicker 736 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, once training camp starts and then pre season 737 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: where hopefully I'll get to hang out with you guys 738 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: and we can see them kind of start to Jumpman, 739 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: they probably won't play in games, let's be clear, but 740 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: you know, like we'll start to see the shell in 741 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: terms of practice, and then they can hit the ground 742 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: running because this is a team and a division, Like 743 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: I just think that afcast a nightmare and it got 744 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: worse this offseason, so they're gonna need to hit the 745 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: ground running and bringing back their same players creates that 746 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: chemistry faster, all right, perfect segue. Because I wanted to 747 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 1: stay in the AFC East. You mentioned that it's become 748 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 1: more of a nightmare division. We haven't gotten the Aaron 749 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: Rodgers to the Jets official trade coming down. Hopefully it 750 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: happens soon. I'm sick of it. I want it to happen, 751 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: but it does seem like it will happen. I know 752 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: you have a bunch of models that look ahead to 753 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: the future that are predictive. What does Aaron Rodgers do 754 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: to the Jets win total? And just maybe more of 755 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: a general question too, just overall, what they can do 756 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: offensively with Aaron Rodgers as opposed to Zach Wilson or 757 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: some other quarterback that they could ultimately have. Well, I 758 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: always want to start with the trenches because it's so important, 759 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: and the left half a position. A couple of years 760 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: ago they drafted McKay Beckton, and in the past two 761 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 1: seasons he's played a total of forty eight snaps. So 762 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: the first thing that needs to happen is they need 763 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: to really figure out how to shore up that line, 764 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: and that seems like something that'll be selecting for in 765 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: the draft based on all of the other moves that 766 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: they've made this off season. Maybe they could take a 767 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: pass rusher or whatever, but at the end of the day, 768 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: they'll probably end up to be in the market for 769 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: a left tackle and maybe I mean McKay back's allegedly 770 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: coming back, but I don't know if I trust that 771 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: or not. Am I hope he's healthy, but you know, 772 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: just for the humans sake, but it seems dicey. But 773 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is probably of these off season moves, like 774 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, you can do it. In terms of wind total, 775 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: the number ends up being right around six. So just 776 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: so to give you some an idea, like it, a 777 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: regular quarterbacks around like four or four and a half, 778 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, they're right up there 779 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: at six. Aaron Rodgers right up there with them, right 780 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: around six. It's you know, fractional points of a wind 781 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: total of a game. To the distinguishes between the two. 782 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: Remember this is your two time back to back MVP 783 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 1: in a season where you know, COVID seasons or whatever 784 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: he wants to call it. But at the end of 785 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: the day, like he is a needle mover, this leverage 786 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: is you know, they talk. You know, it was annoying. 787 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: I will, I will admit it, it was a little 788 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: annoying to we're talking about him every five minutes during 789 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: free agency. But you know, he is one of those 790 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 1: players that has earned that right based on how he's played, 791 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: and there are very few Aaron Rodgers is in the 792 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: world and there are a lot more guys who are average, 793 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: So he has earned the right for us to be 794 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: talking about him this much. But again, that doesn't make 795 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: it not annoying. This is a question that's going to 796 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: be kind of looking into the crystal ball the future 797 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. But do you like this move for 798 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: a team and the Jets who are a young team, 799 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: who have the capability and the capacity to really trend 800 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: in the right direction in the future, with the right 801 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: quarterback who may not retire in a year, So I 802 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: feel like a move like this, yes, it will increase 803 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: their play this season, maybe next season, but we really 804 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen beyond this season. This 805 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: deal also isn't officially done yet, So how do you 806 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: view a move like this with the team that is 807 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: so young and has really done a great job in 808 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: the draft in the last few years. And you kind 809 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: of look at these salaries that are going to be 810 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: coming up in the next few years when you're going 811 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: to have to start to pay these younger players and 812 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: you may still not have your answer at quarterback in 813 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: three years from now, depending on what happens with Aaron 814 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: Rodgers and the rest of his future as an NFL quarterback. 815 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: We we we also have to kind of look at the 816 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: life cycle of where the coaches are in their trajectories, 817 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: because remember, a lot of that job has changed a lot. 818 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying something that's controversial here. There's 819 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: been a lot of different Jets coaches in the past years, right, 820 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: so when I'm looking to see, like like sometimes you 821 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: have to like figure it out. For now, they have 822 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: done a nice job of drafting. They have a lot 823 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: of nice pieces, but they didn't it doesn't appear that 824 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: they got Zach Wilson right, at least not yet. I 825 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: would think that the idea here is that you bring 826 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: in Aaron Rodgers and maybe have him mentor a Zach 827 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: Wilson who had a lot of promise and potentially with 828 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,439 Speaker 1: a new offensive scheme and maybe even an O line 829 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: that could help him out, things would be a little 830 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: bit better. But at the end of the day, I 831 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: think they're kind of saying that's a problem for future us. 832 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: Let's go get some wins now, let's make this a destination. 833 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 1: And by the way the world is changing, look back 834 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: at like now colleges with nil and all these things, 835 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: the way that the guys are viewing where they go 836 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 1: to school, and the trans reportal and all that stuff. 837 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: The allure of New York City will have like additional 838 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: marketing dollars that we don't we don't know how it's 839 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: all gonna like net out necessarily, Like maybe maybe the 840 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 1: additional stuff will become more exciting for a guy who's 841 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: used to making a lot of money. I don't know, 842 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: like the NIL stuff. I'm curious to see how that 843 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: strategically plays out in the future. So I think they're 844 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: punting that problem for that's a problem for future Jets, 845 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: not current Jets. Speaking of another AFC East opponent that 846 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 1: I think is very much thinking about today and this season, 847 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. You mentioned what a really top tier 848 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: quarterback and elite quarterback can do a win total perspective. 849 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: What about Jalen Ramsey going to the Miami Dolphins, an 850 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: elite level corner that's still in the prime of his career. 851 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,959 Speaker 1: What does that do? Maybe not as much because there's 852 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: obviously not as big of an impact on a game 853 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: when you're playing corner as opposed to passing the football. 854 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: What does Jalen Ramsey do for the Dolphins defense and 855 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: just their win total projections in your models, Well, you've 856 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: got to understand how to stop, Like third down needs 857 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: to be like like if youre's one place to sort 858 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: of start, it's basically what happens on obvious passing down 859 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: as I just say third down in that case, right, 860 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: and if you look to see like like you look 861 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: what happened with the Dolphins last year. They kept getting 862 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: better on their defensive front. Their pass rush actually improved. 863 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: Obviously they brought in Bradley Chubb, but they have these 864 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: other pieces that got better with the addition to Bradley Chub. 865 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: But now you kind of have to have the front 866 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: and the back a line and it is absolutely key 867 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: in the AFC. Like, you know, it's funny, name the 868 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: top five quarter backs in the NFC. I'll wait, you know, like, okay, 869 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: let's assume Aaron Rodgers moves. Now name the top five 870 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: in the AFC, and you're basically in one division, you know, Like, 871 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: so the reality is it becomes even more crucial that 872 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: you get those lockdown shut down whatever you want to 873 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: call them corners in that space, or you create it 874 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: with your safety's corners and defensive backs as a whole. 875 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: They took the strategy of bringing Jalen Ramsey back to 876 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: the state of Florida for a number of reasons, but 877 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: not the least of which is that you know that 878 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: was their strategy. Their safeties aren't is strong, so they're 879 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: trying to build from the corners in. It's just a 880 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: strategy play for the way that their defense operates. And 881 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: also available assets in the marketplace. You can't go out 882 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: and create a Jordan and Mica situation from nowhere. So 883 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: it was available assets in the marketplace that were achievable 884 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 1: for them, and that trade was achievable for them. Cynthia, 885 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: one last question before we take a break. Is there 886 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: one team that you really think hit a home run 887 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: in free agency that's going to be set up to 888 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: be maybe a playoff team who wasn't last season this 889 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,919 Speaker 1: upcoming season in twenty twenty three. Yeah. You know, it's 890 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 1: it's crazy to say this because I, you know, never 891 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: would think I would say this, but Number one, Aaron 892 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 1: Rodgers leaving the NFC North makes it really great for 893 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: everyone else. Number two. You know, the Bills and the 894 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: Lions are now friends because of you know, last year 895 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: there was some help at the stadium and everything. But 896 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: I think that because of like not panicking and doing 897 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: weird things and remaking their secondary. Because I think the 898 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: Lions did a nice job of remaking their secondary. I 899 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: think that the Lions actually might have a chance to 900 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: make to the postseason. I'm not saying they're going to 901 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: win a game, because in my lifetime they haven't done that, 902 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: but you know that they're you know, I'm from Michigan, 903 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: so that's why i have to say that. But I 904 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: actually think that the Lions did a really nice job. 905 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: I also think that look, NFC South is achievable too. 906 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: I think that the I think both the Panthers and 907 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: the Falcons have something interesting going on. We'll have to 908 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: see what ultimately nets out at the quarterback position. But 909 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,760 Speaker 1: to me, if you want to like be a higher 910 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: probability to make it to the postseason, you know what 911 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: you gotta do. You gotta move your team to the NFC. 912 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: That's really that's what you got it too Easier said 913 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: than done. Oh my gosh, thank you so much, Cynthia 914 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 1: We appreciate all your expertise on free agency and the 915 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,919 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Thanks for hanging out with us. Yeah, thanks 916 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: for having me guys. All Right, that was Cynthia Freeland 917 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: of NFL Network. She's NFL's media analytics expert, so good 918 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: at what she does. Does. That mock draft is dropping 919 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: on Thursday, so make sure you look out for us. 920 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: Look out for it. All right, break time for us. 921 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: When we come back here, we're going to dip into 922 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. Everything you need to know, everything you 923 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: need to know related to the Bills coming up next year. 924 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: On One Bills Live, We're presented by Kalid to Health 925 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, we're back here on 926 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: One Bills Live. We just had Cynthia Freeland of NFL 927 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: Network on with us. Her latest mock draft is coming 928 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: out on Thursday. It's two point oh. She did one 929 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: before free agency and is going to do one after now. 930 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 1: And she had a defensive back being mocked to the 931 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: Bills at twenty seven. She said, Hey, I understand quarterback 932 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: is not an exact need for this team, but hear 933 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: me out, this is why this team should draft Cam 934 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: Smith from South Carolina. She made a lot of sense. 935 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 1: This team plays with five defensive backs on the field 936 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: more than any other team in the NFL. It's nice 937 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: to have good, good depth at that position. They do 938 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: have depth, but like she said, that depth was tested 939 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: with injuries last year. Yeah, and then what about just 940 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: playing in the AFC that Cynthia brought up the fact 941 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: that all the good quarterbacks are in the AFC and 942 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. The Bills have seen Patrick Mahomes multiple times. 943 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: They've now seen Joe Burrow. I think at some point 944 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: they're going to see Justin Herbert. Jimmy Garoppolo's there with 945 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,479 Speaker 1: a very familiar face in Josh McDaniels in Las Vegas 946 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: with the Raider. There's twa in the division who had 947 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: the highest quarterback rating in the NFL last season when 948 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: he was healthy, Aaron Rodgers joining your division most likely. 949 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: So it's not the worst thing to have a bunch 950 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,720 Speaker 1: of really highly talented cornerbacks and safeties. So it doesn't 951 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: seem like, hey, the Bills need corner like you mentioned, 952 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: But if they do go that round, if the board 953 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 1: falls a certain way, they don't love everything else. I 954 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: don't think that's out of the question. Yeah, let's go 955 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: to our tweet. Cheetah's presented by Corrigan Moving Systems, the 956 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: official equipment moving systems of the Buffalo Bills. And I'm 957 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 1: going to jump around here and pick some interesting one. 958 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: So Charlie says, in terms of what position should be 959 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: off the table for the Bills in round one, do 960 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 1: not draft this position group. Charlie says, tight end would 961 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: be a waste of a first round pick. And you 962 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: know what, Charlie, I disagree with you. I would be 963 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: pretty pumped up about the Bills drafting a tight end 964 00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 1: because this year's draft class is unlike pretty much any 965 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 1: other draft class with tight ends. These are talented tight ends. 966 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: These are maybe I would throw out the word generational 967 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,240 Speaker 1: for a few of these guys, guys who can change 968 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 1: an offense. We've seen how the Chiefs operate because of 969 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: a guy like Travis Kelsey. Not saying there's an exact 970 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,760 Speaker 1: carbon copy in this year's draft class, but there's there's 971 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: guys who can do what Travis Kelsey does at an 972 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: NFL level NFL in the NFL, I think tight end, 973 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: if you have a good one, that can be your 974 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: secret weapon. The Bills have Dawson Knox. He has shown 975 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: how he can grow in the NFL. He's shown promise. 976 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: I think there is still growth left for him. I 977 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: don't think he's peaked yet at all. But when you 978 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: start to imagine another really good tight end next to 979 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: Dawson Knox and somebody who can continue to diversify this 980 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: offense and throw off what NFL defensives have to do. 981 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: If one of the best is sitting at twenty seven 982 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: and the wide receivers are off the table, and you 983 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: don't want to go linebacker yet, sign me up for 984 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: a tight ends. Yeah, here's why I would be fine 985 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: with it. Just a simple fact of is this player 986 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: directly helping Josh Allen and giving him more weapons. Tight 987 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: End is certainly you look at the blocking a little bit, 988 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: but it is certainly a receiving position. In today's NFL, 989 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 1: there's a big cry out for get more receivers. You 990 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: gotta be like the Bengals, you gotta be like the 991 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 1: Chiefs and be super deep at receiver. How about someone 992 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 1: like Dalton Kincaide from Utah that is such a high 993 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: caliber receiving threat. Michael Mayer at Notre Dame from the 994 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: time he was a freshman, it looked like he was 995 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: going to be a first round pick. He's a good blocker, 996 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: but he catches everything. He's good after the catch. And 997 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 1: I think Darnell Washington number zero at Georgia almost a 998 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: sixth offensive lineman out there, sixty seven two hundred and 999 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: sixty five pounds ran in the low four sixes. He 1000 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: would be a matchup nightmare across from Dawson Knox. And 1001 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 1: to have Stefan Diggs and Trent Schurfield and Deanti Hardy, 1002 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: then suddenly the Bills are really diverse and what they 1003 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: can do formationally and just the players that are running 1004 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 1: routes for Josh Allen, the opportunities are endless with head 1005 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: and like that on your roster. So I understand where 1006 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: you're coming from, Charlie, but if you get a good one, 1007 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: I am okay with that. We've got to take a break. 1008 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're going to get into the 1009 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: latest mock Draft watch. As promised, you're gonna hear about 1010 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,720 Speaker 1: some hot names mocked to the Bills. In Mock Draft 1011 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: Watch five point zero, don't go anywhere. We're one Bills Live. 1012 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,720 Speaker 1: We're presented by Clyde to Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. 1013 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 1: These one Bills Live presented by Called By Our Health, 1014 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: Our Two of one Bills Live, Mattie glab and CBS 1015 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: Sports Draft analyst Chris Trepasso in today for Chris Brown 1016 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker. It is now time to break down 1017 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: the latest mock draft Watch five point zero. We're probably 1018 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 1: gonna have ton of these things before the NFL Draft begins, 1019 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,760 Speaker 1: which I'm totally fine with because I love talking about 1020 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft when my favorite things talk about and 1021 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,879 Speaker 1: we've got an expert right next to me who can 1022 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: help us break down some of the latest names that 1023 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 1: have been mocked to the Bills. So, Chris, we have 1024 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: tracked over one hundred and one mock drafts. Let me 1025 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,879 Speaker 1: just catch you up here. I'm gonna get the first 1026 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: day we started tracking this, so we waited for the 1027 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 1: season to end, which it ended too soon, but we 1028 00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,240 Speaker 1: started tracking these end of January, so January twenty third 1029 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,280 Speaker 1: is the first one we tracked. It's now March twenty ninth, 1030 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 1: so we've been tracking a couple months and in the 1031 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 1: latest crop five point zero, there were thirteen mocked drafts 1032 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: that we tracked. In those thirteen offensive line was mocked 1033 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: four times to the Bills. And if you're watching on MSG, 1034 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,800 Speaker 1: you're seeing out of those one hundred that we have tracked, 1035 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: so we can go there first. So out of those 1036 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: one hundred and one total mock drafts, the favorite position 1037 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: group so far is offensive line being mocked to the 1038 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 1: Bills at thirty two times. Next up running back at 1039 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 1: twenty three. Defensive back is number three at seventeen times, 1040 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 1: being mocked to the Bills at number twenty seven. Wide 1041 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,919 Speaker 1: receiver is fifteen. That's the fourth most mocked position group 1042 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: to the Bills, and within offensive line the number one group. 1043 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: You divide it up between tackles and interior offensive linemen 1044 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 1: twenty two interior offensive lineman, not different names, just that 1045 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: position group. They've been mocked to the Bills twenty two 1046 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: times at number twenty seven, offensive tackle ten times to 1047 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 1: the Bills at twenty seven. Does that make sense with 1048 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 1: how things are falling in your eyes, with how the 1049 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 1: first round could look, Yeah, it does, and I think 1050 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: it's kind of part for the course. We had Cynthia. 1051 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: We had Cynthia Freeland on, who's a big numbers girl, 1052 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: and that was a lot of numbers there. I know 1053 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: you got your Excel spreadsheet. Not that fancy, very impressive. 1054 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: What I do find interesting about that, And again I 1055 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: think it is important to always bring up that you 1056 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 1: started doing these in January, where there was a clear 1057 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: cut need at offensive lineman. The bill signed Connor McGovern, 1058 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 1: They signed David Edwards, who, as time spent with Aaron 1059 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: Kromer in his career, maybe not as big of a 1060 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: need now. And how I look at the bills at 1061 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 1: twenty seven in terms of interior offensive lineman, in terms 1062 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 1: of who's going to be available, who is worthy of 1063 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 1: a pick there, it's really o Cyrus Torrence of Florida, 1064 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: and not really much else. Nest they want to go 1065 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,439 Speaker 1: center with John Michael Schmidtz from Minnesota, but with Mitch 1066 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: Morris still in the full I don't really think that 1067 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: will be the case. So at this point I think 1068 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,919 Speaker 1: you will probably see in mock draft watch six point 1069 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: seven point eight point zero not as many offensive linemen, 1070 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 1: especially on the interior if you do want to stay 1071 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 1: in the trenches the offensive tackle position, to maybe provide 1072 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 1: some competition for Spencer Brown, who I kind of do 1073 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: think was a liability down the stretch, maybe wasn't fully healthy. 1074 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 1: I like that value better in the late portions of 1075 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 1: the first round. Darnell Right from Tennessee that you might 1076 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: know pretty well. Anton Harrison from Oklahoma is a big master. 1077 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,760 Speaker 1: He's also very athletic. Feels like more late first round 1078 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,360 Speaker 1: talents at the offensive tackle spot as opposed to guard. 1079 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: When the Bills go on the clock, I like that, 1080 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: and I you know, you see these position groups being 1081 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 1: mocked to the Bills, and I like that. You said, 1082 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: Remember we started tracking these in the end of January. 1083 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 1: This was before free agencies started, so running back was 1084 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: a hot name. We signed Damien Harris. That probably changes 1085 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: the need for this team at running back as well 1086 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: as safety too. That was another hot position group to 1087 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 1: be mocked to the Bills. And Jordan Poyer has signed 1088 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,879 Speaker 1: with this team, and its reported that Taylor Rapp will 1089 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 1: also sign with this team. Do they decide to go 1090 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,399 Speaker 1: defensive back again in the first round, Who knows. We'll 1091 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: see some popular names. Out of those one hundred and 1092 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: one mock drafts that we have tracked. Bijon Robinson is 1093 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: number one, being mocked to the Bills twenty times. It's 1094 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: pretty I don't know. It just has to happen. Every year, 1095 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: the top running back gets mocked to the Bills by 1096 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: I think the people. And I'm not trying to disrespect 1097 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 1: any national draft analysts, no, but they don't really know 1098 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 1: the ins and outs of the Bills and what they have. Teams. Yeah, 1099 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: the needs, what they have, what they've already done in 1100 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: the past. They traded back twice last year and still 1101 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: picked James Cook, they traded for Nahem Hinze. It's not 1102 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: gonna be Bijan Robinson. I would be absolutely stunned if 1103 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: that was the case. But again go back to before 1104 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: Damien Harris, it seemed like, hey, maybe this is the 1105 00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 1: yea third time. Yes with Bijenson. At this point, I 1106 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 1: don't and he might not even be there at twenty seven, 1107 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: to be honest. So he is the most mocked player 1108 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: to the Bills at twenty in these one hundred and 1109 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: one mock drafts. I just don't think it will happen. 1110 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,280 Speaker 1: He's a great player, He is a great but in general, 1111 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: as a draft analyst, I would say, don't pick running 1112 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 1: backs in the first round. Every year during this period 1113 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: of the NFL calendar that we talked about is just NonStop. 1114 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 1: Everyone gets enamored with the Travis Etns, the Nazi Harris's, 1115 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: the priest Halls. By the time we hit the NFL 1116 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 1: season in November and everyone's has three or four fantasy 1117 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 1: leagues and you're picking up six rounders and undrafted free 1118 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 1: agents and the San Francisco forty nine ers around their 1119 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 1: fourth running back, we all realize, oh, you can get 1120 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: a lot of quality value, not even just in the 1121 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 1: second round or the third round, but on Day three 1122 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,879 Speaker 1: of the draft and then the undrafted free agent rank. 1123 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: So for as fun as it would be in April 1124 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,319 Speaker 1: and May, if the Bills picked the Jamir Gibbs or 1125 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,280 Speaker 1: Bijan Robinson out of Texas, it wouldn't be the best 1126 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 1: allocation of a first round pick in terms of the 1127 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: value that they could bring and what else you could 1128 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: get later in the draft at that same position. Yeah, 1129 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: the second most mocked name to the Bills was Osiris Torrance. 1130 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 1: He's been a favorite name. You mentioned him as somebody 1131 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: who could fit. Maybe maybe he'll still be available for 1132 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 1: the Bills there at number twenty seven as a name 1133 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: that would make sense for this team. But you do wonder, 1134 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: based on the offensive line moves that this team has 1135 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 1: made in free agency. You mentioned David Edwards and Connor McGovern. 1136 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: Are they going to want to go that route at 1137 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: number twenty seven? Would they rather go somewhere else? And again, 1138 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 1: we don't know what their big board looks like. We 1139 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 1: don't know how many first round grades they have on 1140 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: these players, so it's really hard to tell and guess 1141 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: this is what this team is going to do. You 1142 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: turn on the tape on Osiris Torrance and he does 1143 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: have a lot of upside. I think that that could 1144 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: work out for the Bills if that's where they want 1145 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 1: to go with him. Okay, here's how I view Osiris Torrance. 1146 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: I actually have him graded just outside of the first round, 1147 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: but the Bills pick him at twenty seven. I wouldn't 1148 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: consider that a gigantic reach. Going into the combine, there 1149 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: was a lot of thought that Osyrius Torrens is going 1150 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 1: to test really bad because he's so big. He's just 1151 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 1: not really fleet of foot, he's heavy footed. I think 1152 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 1: on film he's actually pretty athletic for being six five 1153 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: and three and thirty pounds. I think he moves pretty well. 1154 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 1: And we've kind of heard this narrative that Aaron Kromer 1155 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: does kind of lean toward the mobile offensive lineman as 1156 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: opposed to these mashers, where I think o Cirius Torrens 1157 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: actually is a little overrated. I think his anchor could 1158 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: get a little bit better in pass protection and being 1159 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 1: six five and three hundred and thirty pounds, he could 1160 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: actually be a little bit more powerful. And that's usually 1161 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: the case for offensive lineman once they come into the NFL. 1162 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: It takes them at least to half a season and 1163 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: for most of them a full season to get what 1164 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 1: I call NFL strong. You just got to get in 1165 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 1: the strength and conditioning program in the NFL. Gained a 1166 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: little bit away, just get stronger in your lower half. 1167 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 1: Once o Cyrus Torrans does that, I think he can 1168 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 1: be a Pro Bowl caliber guard. And we have seen, 1169 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 1: maybe not in the draft. Brandon Bean has been very 1170 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: aggressive attacking the offensive line since he's gotten here in 1171 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and realized, let's build something in front of 1172 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. So Osyrius Torrens is the guard that I 1173 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: think would not be out of the question, and I 1174 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: would like that pick because, again, does this player have 1175 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: a direct impact on Josh Allen a tight end wood 1176 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 1: and certainly an offensive lineman. Would a couple other names 1177 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: who are popular names who not They really haven't showed 1178 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: up as of late. In the last I want to 1179 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 1: say two rounds of mock drafts that we've talked, that 1180 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: we've tracked. I'm talking the last two weeks. Brian branch 1181 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: and Antonio Johnson. Those are two safeties, two defensive backs 1182 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 1: that are really talented. Whatever team gets them, they're going 1183 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: to be lucky. But I don't know if it makes 1184 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: sense for the Bills anymore based on the moves in 1185 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 1: free agency. Yeah, I mean with Taylor Rappa and Jordan Player, 1186 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 1: who we've talked about a lot today, doesn't really make sense. 1187 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 1: And what's why there are two different safeties altogether. I 1188 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 1: don't think Antonio Johnson to be and this is obviously 1189 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 1: no inside info here. I don't think he was ever 1190 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 1: on the board for the Bills because he is a 1191 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 1: really bad tackler. He misses so many tackles on film. 1192 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,959 Speaker 1: He's big, he's athletic, he's explosive. I don't think Sean 1193 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 1: McDermott wants another defensive back in this secondary who's not 1194 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,919 Speaker 1: a sure tackler. Conversely, Brian Branch at Alabama. I think 1195 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 1: he's the best tackling defensive back then I've ever scouted. 1196 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 1: He's not six foot three and two twenty. He doesn't 1197 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: have four four speed. He ran it close to four 1198 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: to six at the combine, but tackles really, really well. 1199 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 1: The only reason why I don't think Brian Branch would 1200 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: make sense for the Bills. He kind of plays the 1201 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 1: Tarn Johnson roll, and the Bills love Tarren Johnson recently 1202 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: extended Taryn Johnson is kind of that half linebacker, half 1203 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 1: slot defender, nickel corner, whatever you want to call him. 1204 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 1: Brian Branch is not your traditional safety. That's the exact 1205 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 1: position I think he will ultimately play in the NFL. 1206 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: And if you look at the latest crop of mock 1207 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 1: drafts that we have tracked five point zero out of 1208 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 1: five point zero, there's third teen mocked drafts in there. 1209 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 1: And when you look at the position groups, offensive line 1210 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: was mocked to the Bills four times, interior offensive line 1211 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: three times, wide receiver was three times, running back, two times, 1212 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 1: linebacker twice, edge rusher once, cornerback once. The favorite names 1213 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: V Jean Robinson is still showing up. He was mocked 1214 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: to the Bills twice in the latest crop of mock drafts. Oh, 1215 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Cyrus Torrance twice and Jack Campbell twice. So O, Cyrus 1216 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Torrance is showing up again. We've talked about him already. 1217 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: Jack Campbell another person that could be a fit for 1218 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 1: the Bills based on that middle linebacker spot that has 1219 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: a big void on this roster at least to this point. 1220 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 1: Not necessarily that. I'm not saying that the starting middle 1221 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: linebacker is not already on this roster, because Brandon Bean 1222 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott did say we owe the guys an 1223 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to compete for this spot. Whether it's Tyrell Dodson, 1224 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 1: whether it's Terrelle Bernard, or whether it's balin spector. Those 1225 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 1: guys have earned the right to compete for like that. 1226 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 1: Could I see them adding to middle linebacker to that 1227 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: competition through the draft hack, Yes, I could. And I'm 1228 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 1: a fan of Jack Campbell. I know you are too, 1229 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 1: because he's popped up on your mock drafts heading to 1230 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 1: the Bills at number twenty seven. Yeah. I could talk 1231 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 1: about Jack Campbell for probably the whole two hour show. 1232 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: He is, to me, would be the perfect fit for 1233 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 1: the Bills at the middle linebacker spot, multi year starter 1234 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 1: at Iowa, even back in the shortened COVID season of 1235 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, he was a starting middle linebacker almost the 1236 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 1: exact same size as Tremaine Edmunds, which I do think 1237 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 1: kind of helps him if he's trying to get drafted 1238 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 1: by the Bills. Six five, two forty plus pounds, doesn't 1239 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 1: have quite as long of arms as Tremaine Edmonds, but 1240 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: a similar stature at the middle linebacker spot, and I 1241 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 1: think they want some size next to Matt Milano and 1242 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 1: next to their quasi linebacker, Taran Johnson. What I love 1243 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 1: about Jack Campbell is his instincts. He is not crazy fast. 1244 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 1: He ran in the mid four sixes at the combine, 1245 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: tested very well otherwise in terms of the three cone, 1246 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 1: the vertical, the broad jump, so good in coverage. His 1247 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 1: instincts in coverage remind me a lot of Fred Warner 1248 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 1: when he was coming out of BYU, where everyone's like, oh, 1249 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 1: he's not really rangy enough. He doesn't have enough speed 1250 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,919 Speaker 1: to get sidelined to sideline, but he plays fast because 1251 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 1: he understands where he needs to be based on is 1252 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 1: it play action, where's the offensive lineman going? Jack Campbell 1253 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 1: just feels like a player that I think is severely underrated. 1254 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure why he's so underrated, because he tested 1255 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 1: like an elite athlete, was a very productive at Iowa, 1256 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 1: a program that is constantly pumping out quality defensive guys, 1257 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 1: and there's not really this surefire linebacker number one in 1258 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 1: this draft class like there's been in the past. He 1259 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: would make a lot of sense for the Bills at 1260 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 1: twenty seven. He's my number one linebacker in this class. 1261 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 1: His field awareness really popped out on film to me. 1262 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 1: He looks like an NFL player in the way he 1263 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,160 Speaker 1: can spy the quarterback and the way that he knows 1264 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 1: what's going on in the field and how he needs 1265 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 1: to read, react and adjust to what is happening within 1266 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: a play or what is happening pre snap. I was 1267 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,919 Speaker 1: really really impressed with that. Let me run one thing 1268 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 1: by you with Jack Jack Campbell, because your mock draft 1269 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,480 Speaker 1: with Jack Campbell was in this latest crop. Jack Campbell 1270 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 1: popped up again, but it wasn't in the first round, 1271 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 1: so the Athletic did a mock draft. The Athletic NFL stafted, 1272 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 1: so Joe Biscalia, who covers the Bills in the area. 1273 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 1: He was a part of this mock draft, and he 1274 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: had the Bills trading away number twenty seven and number 1275 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: one thirty seven to the Detroit Lions. In return, they 1276 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 1: got forty eight, fifty five, one eighty three, and one 1277 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 1: ninety four and then they draft Jack Campbell at that 1278 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 1: number forty eight spot. Do you believe Jack Campbell is 1279 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 1: going to be available at number forty eight? So this 1280 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 1: is what's so hard about being a draft analyst. Because 1281 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 1: I have Jack Campbell ranked as my number twenty two 1282 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,919 Speaker 1: overall player, I don't think he should get that fire. 1283 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 1: And this is what Brandon being in the Bills scouting 1284 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: department and all the scouting departments in the NFL have 1285 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: to do. They can love a player, but then they also, 1286 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: I think, are doing their own mock draft watches and saying, 1287 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 1: is Jack Campbell going to be there if we trade 1288 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,600 Speaker 1: back now? I think that because to me, the middle 1289 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 1: linebacker spot is the most glaring need right now for 1290 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 1: the Bills. If you love Jack Campbell and you're sitting 1291 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,440 Speaker 1: there at twenty seven, you don't want to necessarily move 1292 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 1: back twenty one spots and say, let's hope he's there. 1293 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,560 Speaker 1: But it does feel like I'm I don't want to 1294 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 1: say on an island, but I'm kind of in the 1295 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 1: minority with Jack Campbell being a first round caliber prospects. 1296 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,400 Speaker 1: So the Bills, all NFL teams, they have to kind 1297 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 1: of look around the rest of the league and say, 1298 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 1: is this guy more of a mid second round pick. 1299 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 1: If the Bills could move back and get a bunch 1300 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 1: of picks, get more roles at the table, that would 1301 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 1: be a home run for them in terms of just 1302 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,400 Speaker 1: getting more draft capital and then getting someone that, like 1303 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned, I think is a Day one NFL middle 1304 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 1: linebacker who's a great tackler and really good coverage. Yeah. 1305 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 1: I agree with that, And you made the point of 1306 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 1: I think this scouting department, I think Brandon Bean is 1307 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 1: doing mocked drafts. And he said that before. He said, 1308 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 1: in this time leading up to the NFL Draft, where 1309 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 1: we feel like we're at a good place with how 1310 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 1: we have graded these prospects, now is the time to 1311 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,880 Speaker 1: do mock drafts and to try and envision what the 1312 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,120 Speaker 1: heck is going to happen on night one, because when 1313 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 1: you're sitting that far down on night one, it's really 1314 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 1: hard to predict what's going to happen, So you try 1315 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 1: to do as many mock drafts as possible to run 1316 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,640 Speaker 1: through every single scenario that happens, so that when you 1317 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: are three picks away, two picks away, you've already done 1318 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 1: a mock draft that is similar to how the board 1319 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,640 Speaker 1: is falling, so you're not freaking out and saying, oh 1320 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 1: my gosh, we had no idea the board was going 1321 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 1: to fall like this. We had no idea there was 1322 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 1: going to be this many trades. We had no idea 1323 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 1: that there were still going to be some quarterbacks on 1324 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,120 Speaker 1: the board that may not come off now. And I 1325 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 1: think two, in terms of trading back, you feel okay 1326 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 1: with trading back. Then the Bills last year they traded 1327 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 1: up because kye Elam was their last first round pick 1328 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 1: or first round grade. If kyer Elam was gone, the 1329 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 1: Bills were probably going to move back at that point 1330 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 1: because you have to do those mock drafts because when 1331 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 1: you trade back, it's like who's going to be available? 1332 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 1: Who do we feel comfortable with that will still be 1333 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 1: there when we move back. We slide out of the 1334 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 1: first round altogether maybe and are picking in the thirties 1335 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 1: or forties as opposed to number twenty seven overall, So 1336 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 1: it's not even just first round mock drafts. You gotta 1337 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: do multiple rounds, probably through Day two the end of 1338 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:31,040 Speaker 1: the third round, to understand the general range for where 1339 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 1: certain players are going to go. And I think that's 1340 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 1: an underrated element to Brandon being attending pro days because 1341 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,840 Speaker 1: he's seen these guys. He doesn't need to watch j 1342 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 1: Strout through the football, but he's around other gms. It 1343 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: can be time talking. It's a big networking event during 1344 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 1: a very key time in the NFL calendar. Well, in 1345 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 1: the latest mock Draft Watch, there were three wide receivers 1346 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 1: that popped up. That was the second most mocked position 1347 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 1: group out of the last thirteen mock drafts we have tracked. 1348 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 1: So we wanted to run through a couple of those 1349 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,440 Speaker 1: names and talk to you guys about them. Chris is 1350 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 1: going to give his opinion about those guys as well, 1351 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,920 Speaker 1: So we'll go first with wide receiver. He's out of 1352 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:13,400 Speaker 1: TCU Quentin Johnston. So this kid is sixty three, two 1353 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 1: hundred and eight pounds. He's a junior. He is a 1354 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,800 Speaker 1: bigger body type guy. He's got long arms. Played in 1355 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 1: thirty two games in his college football career, he had 1356 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:27,799 Speaker 1: sixty receptions for over a thousand receiving yards, six receiving touchdowns, 1357 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:34,880 Speaker 1: an averaged seventeen point eight yards per reception. So this 1358 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 1: is somebody who has had the time and who has 1359 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 1: seen the field in a lot of games. Has done 1360 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,960 Speaker 1: a lot to earn him names like twenty twenty two 1361 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 1: first Team All Big Twelve, an AP first Team All 1362 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 1: Big Twelve name. So this is somebody who who has 1363 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 1: looked at as some of the best within the conference 1364 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,800 Speaker 1: that he played in. When you turn on the tape 1365 01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,679 Speaker 1: on him, he has some moves to him. Even though 1366 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,040 Speaker 1: he's a bigger body wide receiver, he does have the 1367 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 1: ability to joke out a defender. He has some build 1368 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 1: up speed which meshes well with his size. I think 1369 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 1: he can get up in the air to grab the 1370 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 1: ball because he's a six three wide receiver. He's a 1371 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,920 Speaker 1: good separator. A lot of tape on him. I think 1372 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 1: you turn it on and there's not many close defenders. 1373 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,360 Speaker 1: That also could be because of the routes that he's running. 1374 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,639 Speaker 1: He has a really nice catch radius because of his size. 1375 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 1: A lot of this comes back to his size. I 1376 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 1: think that should only increase his catch radius once he 1377 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,960 Speaker 1: gets into the NFL, he has the ability to run 1378 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,600 Speaker 1: a route tree that can increase in the NFL. I 1379 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 1: think this is a player that I look at and 1380 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,840 Speaker 1: I say, you have a lot of upside once you 1381 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 1: get into the NFL. You've put some good tape together, 1382 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 1: but there's a lot more to come for somebody like you. 1383 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 1: What do you think that is a really good scunning reporter, 1384 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:53,479 Speaker 1: Quentin Johnson, great job. I view him similarly. He jumped 1385 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 1: over forty inches at the combine. The TCU Pro Day 1386 01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,400 Speaker 1: is on Friday. We're going to see him probably run 1387 01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,240 Speaker 1: the forty or at least I hope he runs the already. 1388 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 1: I love when the guys work out so we know 1389 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,720 Speaker 1: how fast they are on a field. Quintin Johnson, I think, 1390 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,439 Speaker 1: really the only concerns with him because he is my 1391 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver one. I think he's the best wide receiver 1392 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 1: in this class for pretty much all the reasons that 1393 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,720 Speaker 1: Maddie just laid out. The concerns would be that in 1394 01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 1: TCU's offense and the Big twelve, they don't play a 1395 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 1: lot of defense. It's an air raid offense where they're 1396 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,600 Speaker 1: just chucking it deep a lot. Maybe didn't run a 1397 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,320 Speaker 1: variety of routes. Like you mentioned, you want to see 1398 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 1: that rout tree get a little better once he gets 1399 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 1: to the NFL. And at times, even though he is 1400 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,679 Speaker 1: really good in those contested catch situations, the body catches 1401 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 1: kind of pop up and the ball bounces off his 1402 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,480 Speaker 1: pads and you're wondering, how can he make this spectacular 1403 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 1: catch but then miss this wide open catch. In general, 1404 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 1: though drop rates for receivers are not really predictive, they 1405 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 1: kind of go up and down. There's not, I think 1406 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 1: a big concern where he just has terrible hands and 1407 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 1: can't catch the football. With Josh Allen's ability and with 1408 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:56,040 Speaker 1: his propensity to throw the football vertically, if Quintin Johnson 1409 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,680 Speaker 1: was there at twenty seven and it seemed like far 1410 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 1: fat until Daniel Jeremiah this week sent him Bills at 1411 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,479 Speaker 1: twenty seven, if he was there, that would be one 1412 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 1: for me as a draft analyst where it would be 1413 01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,600 Speaker 1: a whether you're running the pick to the podium or 1414 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,120 Speaker 1: you're calling it in whenever they actually that's what you 1415 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,080 Speaker 1: would ultimately have to do if you're the Buffalo Bills. Again, 1416 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,479 Speaker 1: this is a theme for me. Direct impact on Josh 1417 01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,719 Speaker 1: Allen would actually alleviate some attention and pressure from Stefan 1418 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,640 Speaker 1: Diggs too. Certainly he's the number one wide receiver, but 1419 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,639 Speaker 1: I think in time, year two, year three, Quentin Johnston 1420 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,639 Speaker 1: could ultimately be your number one receiver because the upside, 1421 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 1: the explosion and the size make him a big time 1422 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 1: potential wide receiver. He had over a thousand receiving yards 1423 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 1: last year. I said in his career, he had over 1424 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,679 Speaker 1: two thousand receiving yards in his career, played in thirty 1425 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 1: two total games in his three seasons with TCU. Moving 1426 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 1: on Jordan Addison, or receiver out of USC. He's five 1427 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,800 Speaker 1: eleven one seventy three. Is a junior, so smaller, but 1428 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,280 Speaker 1: I think when you when you watch the tape on him, 1429 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,960 Speaker 1: he plays bigger because of his speed. So he ran 1430 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,280 Speaker 1: a four four nine forty Last year he played in 1431 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,960 Speaker 1: eleven games, had fifty nine catches for eight hundred seventy 1432 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 1: five receiving yards, eight receiving touchdowns, and in his career 1433 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 1: he goes over three thousand receiving yards, twenty nine receiving touchdowns, 1434 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,559 Speaker 1: and played in thirty five games. His best season he 1435 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:26,160 Speaker 1: transferred to USC. His best season came in twenty twenty one. 1436 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 1: I believe it was yes. Fourteen games he played in 1437 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:33,920 Speaker 1: one hundred catches for fifteen hundred receiving yards, over fifteen 1438 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 1: hundred receiving yards, seventeen receiving touchdowns. Guys. He tied the 1439 01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,519 Speaker 1: FBS record for that in twenty twenty one, or led 1440 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,719 Speaker 1: the s FBS for that in twenty twenty one, average 1441 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 1: fifteen point nine yards per catch. He can work inside 1442 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 1: and outside. When you watch the tape on this kid, 1443 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 1: he's got quick feet, he's fast. He can juke a 1444 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,559 Speaker 1: defender out of his shoes. He did that really good 1445 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,120 Speaker 1: in the way that he got in and out of 1446 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,120 Speaker 1: his breaks. He plays bigger than he is based on 1447 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,719 Speaker 1: his athleticism. When you watch him, I think he sees 1448 01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 1: he does a good job of seeing the ball all 1449 01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,639 Speaker 1: the way into his hands. He had a down season 1450 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,439 Speaker 1: with USC in twenty twenty two, so you kind of 1451 01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,080 Speaker 1: wonder why did he have a down year? Is it 1452 01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,320 Speaker 1: because of the offense that he played in at USC? 1453 01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:22,200 Speaker 1: Because he exploded at Pitt in twenty twenty one, had 1454 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:26,280 Speaker 1: this incredible season, was a first team type player. So 1455 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,760 Speaker 1: with him, the question mark is can he be consistent 1456 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 1: like he was in that one season? At Pinton. Yeah, No, definitely. 1457 01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,640 Speaker 1: And to further that point with Jordan Edison, I think 1458 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,840 Speaker 1: you again spelled it out very well in terms of 1459 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,760 Speaker 1: what he brings to the field. Eleven one, seventy three 1460 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,320 Speaker 1: and then running four four nine, that's not really the 1461 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 1: best combination. It's not the most predictive or indicative of 1462 01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 1: him being this big time player at the next level. 1463 01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm lower on Jordan Adison than most. I have a 1464 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,200 Speaker 1: second round grade on him, but I do think in 1465 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,240 Speaker 1: Buffalo and in some other teams, like if he landed 1466 01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,840 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, where he would be the surefire number two, 1467 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,719 Speaker 1: then you could see him really be good right away. 1468 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,280 Speaker 1: If he's asked to be a number one receiver as 1469 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,360 Speaker 1: a rookie, I think he's going to struggle with the 1470 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,439 Speaker 1: physicality of a lot of the longer corners at the 1471 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 1: next level. I kind of view him closer to Marquis 1472 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 1: Brown or Sterling Shepherd than I do Calvin Ridley, and 1473 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,680 Speaker 1: that's how he's trying to kind of sell himself. A 1474 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,439 Speaker 1: big reason I think why Calvin Ridley was able to 1475 01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,479 Speaker 1: become a good player early in his NFL career. He 1476 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,040 Speaker 1: landed in Atlanta with Julio Jones and a lot of 1477 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,960 Speaker 1: the attention and pressure was not on him. So that's 1478 01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,880 Speaker 1: how I view Jordan Addison wouldn't be a home run 1479 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,840 Speaker 1: of a pick in my opinion, that would compare to 1480 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 1: Quentin Johnston, who would be Yeah, but direct impact on 1481 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,000 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. He can separate. Maybe not a high ceiling 1482 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,679 Speaker 1: because of the athleticism, but certainly high four. Yeah, I agree. 1483 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,679 Speaker 1: I kind of think. You see, you've seen his bust. 1484 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 1: You see how he's going to play within the NFL. 1485 01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,559 Speaker 1: Not as much upside as a guy like Quentin Johnson. 1486 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,719 Speaker 1: Will go over one more before we take a break, 1487 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,360 Speaker 1: it's Jalen high At the wide receiver from Tennessee. You 1488 01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 1: talked about being a good wide receiver to for Jordan 1489 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 1: Addison himself being a good wide receiver too. I think 1490 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,800 Speaker 1: Jalen Hyatt could be that for a team as well. 1491 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:08,360 Speaker 1: He's a little bit bigger, six feet tall one seventy six, 1492 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 1: not a huge guy, but he ran a four four 1493 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,080 Speaker 1: or forty, so this is another quick wide receiver. Last 1494 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 1: season at Tennessee, he played in twelve games and had 1495 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:21,479 Speaker 1: over twelve hundred receiving yards and fifteen receiving touchdowns. This 1496 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 1: is a big catch, a big play type receiver. He 1497 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,760 Speaker 1: averaged eighteen point nine yards per reception last year. He 1498 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,719 Speaker 1: was a consensus and unanimous first team All American because 1499 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,160 Speaker 1: of the season he had in twenty twenty two. He 1500 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:39,080 Speaker 1: had five receiving touchdowns or five touchdowns against Alabama last 1501 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,679 Speaker 1: season for Tennessee, this is a kid who went off 1502 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,880 Speaker 1: in high school. He was the all time leader in 1503 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,240 Speaker 1: career receiving yards and receiving touchdowns for his high school. 1504 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,559 Speaker 1: His freshman and his sophomore year are interesting. He's kind 1505 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,880 Speaker 1: of a receiver that had to wait for his turn. 1506 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,880 Speaker 1: So in his freshman and sophomore year, in each season 1507 01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 1: he had less than three hundred receiving yards and had 1508 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,640 Speaker 1: only two even touchdowns in each season, so he had 1509 01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,320 Speaker 1: to wait his turn. But when you turn on the tape, 1510 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,760 Speaker 1: he can outrun defenders. He gets good separation on the 1511 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 1: deep ball because of his speed, and defenses have to 1512 01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,599 Speaker 1: account for his speed and they have to change what 1513 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 1: they do because of the threat of the deep ball 1514 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,400 Speaker 1: that he poses on offense that defenses really have to 1515 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 1: adjust for. He's not the biggest route tree runner. Based 1516 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,720 Speaker 1: on what he did in college, can he do more 1517 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,719 Speaker 1: of that. Can he expand his route tree in the NFL? 1518 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,800 Speaker 1: I think that's a question for him. Another question for 1519 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,479 Speaker 1: him is is this just a really good wide receiver 1520 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,720 Speaker 1: too that he does what he did his best in 1521 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,320 Speaker 1: college football? The crossers, the slants. You just let him 1522 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,120 Speaker 1: keep doing that because he was so good doing that 1523 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,799 Speaker 1: for Tennessee last season. Yeah, Jalen High It's interesting because 1524 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,599 Speaker 1: I don't think he's that well rounded of a wide 1525 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 1: receiver right now. But if we look from a bill's perspective, 1526 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 1: what Josh Allen, what this offense really became down the 1527 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,640 Speaker 1: stretch and in the playoffs last season that he was 1528 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,680 Speaker 1: chucking a deep seemingly every other third down. If you 1529 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,320 Speaker 1: add Jalen Hyatts to this team, I think, again, you're 1530 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,920 Speaker 1: not getting a complete wide out that's gonna be awesome 1531 01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,559 Speaker 1: after the catch, that's gonna win a lot of contested catches. 1532 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,000 Speaker 1: But it would scare the heck out of a lot 1533 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,800 Speaker 1: of defensive coordinators to not just have Gabe Davis, who's 1534 01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,680 Speaker 1: proven to be a great vertical threat even though he's 1535 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 1: not crazy fast. You have digs, You have Dawson Knox, 1536 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,599 Speaker 1: who was an athletic tight end but a guy that 1537 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,960 Speaker 1: went into the combine and people were disappointed when he 1538 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 1: ran four four flat because he looks like a four 1539 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,240 Speaker 1: two guy on film even though he has that four 1540 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 1: four ozho on his combine resume. I think he's fast 1541 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,080 Speaker 1: around the football field, so I have him graded lower 1542 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,560 Speaker 1: because again, he doesn't do everything really well that I 1543 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 1: would look for in a first round wide receiver. I agree, 1544 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,680 Speaker 1: get vertical down the field, beat press coverage, and then 1545 01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 1: turn on the jets. Especially that long speed, that second 1546 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,439 Speaker 1: and third gear. Jalen Hyatt is is scary with the football, 1547 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,400 Speaker 1: just getting north and south more than any other receiver 1548 01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 1: in this class. Yeah, I think defenses have to They 1549 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,960 Speaker 1: have to account for him when he's on the field. 1550 01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,439 Speaker 1: Does that make him a first round pick? Some people 1551 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 1: have him going the Bills at number twenty seven or 1552 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,080 Speaker 1: is he more of a Day two guy. That'll depend 1553 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,400 Speaker 1: on how the board falls and how the Bills have 1554 01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,240 Speaker 1: graded Jalen Hyatt among other wide receivers. All right, break 1555 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:18,800 Speaker 1: time for us. When we come back, we are going 1556 01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 1: to get into Chris Trepasso's latest mock draft and look 1557 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,160 Speaker 1: at his big board. Don't go anywhere here. On one 1558 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,679 Speaker 1: Bills Live were presented by Clyde to Health on Buffalo 1559 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:41,880 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. All Right, we've got about twenty minutes left 1560 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 1: here on Wednesday's edition of One Bills Live. And right 1561 01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 1: as we went to break, there was some breaking news 1562 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,040 Speaker 1: from the Bills that we saw on Twitter. Ari Marov 1563 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:57,759 Speaker 1: says source the Bills are resigning veteran defensive tackle Jordan 1564 01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,439 Speaker 1: Phillips to a one year deal of three million dollar deal. 1565 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 1: It was reported that he visited the Bills this past 1566 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,160 Speaker 1: week and could be somebody who they could add back 1567 01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 1: to this defensive line room. And I think it makes 1568 01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,840 Speaker 1: so much sense for this team to bring him back. 1569 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,200 Speaker 1: He did deal with some injury problems this past year, 1570 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,519 Speaker 1: but he adds a veteran presence to that room. He 1571 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,960 Speaker 1: adds some nastiness to that room. And I think him 1572 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,000 Speaker 1: being next to a day Kwan Jones, next to an 1573 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,320 Speaker 1: Ed Oliver, the three guys right there that can rotate 1574 01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,240 Speaker 1: in the middle, I think Jordan Phillips is a great 1575 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 1: sure piece to have a part of this defensive line. 1576 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,559 Speaker 1: And he's huge, and there has been a problem in 1577 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,200 Speaker 1: previous years when the Bills were a little light on 1578 01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,280 Speaker 1: their defensive line. The teams were able to run on 1579 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:49,599 Speaker 1: that defensive line when Jordan Phillips was healthy early last season, 1580 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,519 Speaker 1: there were not a lot of teams. Derrick Henry had 1581 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 1: one of his worst games of his career in Week 1582 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,639 Speaker 1: two against the Bills defensive line when day Kwon Jones, 1583 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,760 Speaker 1: at Oliver and Jordan Phillips were all at one and 1584 01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,080 Speaker 1: then on the other side of that later in the 1585 01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,040 Speaker 1: season when Jordan Phillips had that injured shoulder and was 1586 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,639 Speaker 1: really playing with like one arm. Daquan Jones didn't play 1587 01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 1: in the playoff game. You saw what happens when those 1588 01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,040 Speaker 1: guys are not on the field. And clearly we were 1589 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,479 Speaker 1: talking about it earlier Calais Campbell signs with the Falcons. 1590 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,880 Speaker 1: We both said the Bills might go defensive line. Clearly, 1591 01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,040 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean was listening watching the show, called up Jordan 1592 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,960 Speaker 1: phillips agent and said, let's resign Jordan Phillips. He's also 1593 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,439 Speaker 1: a fan favorite, pumps up the crowd a lot of 1594 01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,720 Speaker 1: the times. I think in terms of the culture, it 1595 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 1: makes sense too. And only thirty years old, doesn't turn 1596 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,360 Speaker 1: thirty one until September. Jordan Phillips still has a lot 1597 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,800 Speaker 1: of good football in front of him, and he understands 1598 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,840 Speaker 1: that in Buffalo, he understands the defense. He's not gonna 1599 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 1: have to play seventy eighty ninety percent of the snaps. 1600 01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 1: A lot of defensive coordinators, a lot of teams say, 1601 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,439 Speaker 1: all right, my defensive line and we're gonna rotate one 1602 01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,720 Speaker 1: or two guys in and out. Not in Buffalo, Sean 1603 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:56,120 Speaker 1: mcdermot's defense has always been the most rotation heavy defensive 1604 01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,040 Speaker 1: line in the NFL, and I think that is a 1605 01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 1: selling point for the he's older defensive lineman that they 1606 01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,920 Speaker 1: don't have to play a lot of football every single week. 1607 01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,320 Speaker 1: They can be fresh later in the season into the playoffs. 1608 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,559 Speaker 1: And this is a guy who played for the Bills, 1609 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,000 Speaker 1: then he went to go play for the Arizona Cardinals, 1610 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,000 Speaker 1: and he came back to this team because of the culture, 1611 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 1: because of the coaching staff, and because of the people 1612 01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 1: inside this locker room. He's one of those pieces that 1613 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,720 Speaker 1: just fit in with the culture and somebody who appreciated 1614 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:29,200 Speaker 1: what Buffalo was after he left Buffalo so much so 1615 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,559 Speaker 1: that he wanted to come back. So that tells you 1616 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 1: the type of effort that he's going to put into 1617 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,400 Speaker 1: this team when he's here, which is very much appreciated. Yeah, 1618 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:38,880 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's kind of like what happens 1619 01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:40,439 Speaker 1: to a lot of people. They grow up in Buffalo, 1620 01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,840 Speaker 1: then they take a job somewhere else and they're like, 1621 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get away from the weather, the smaller city, 1622 01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,439 Speaker 1: and then like ten years later and their late twenties, 1623 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,720 Speaker 1: they ultimately moved back to Buffalo because of what you 1624 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:53,280 Speaker 1: just said that they didn't really appreciate fully all the 1625 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,000 Speaker 1: charm of Buffalo. And this is again tying back to 1626 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips being here. I think it's similar that a 1627 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:04,200 Speaker 1: winning organization that is again one of the best defenses 1628 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,840 Speaker 1: in the Sean McDermott era over the last five or 1629 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:11,679 Speaker 1: six seasons. Any stat you look at DVOA yards allowed 1630 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,439 Speaker 1: points aloud, he knows he's going to be part of 1631 01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,920 Speaker 1: a winning team and a good defensive unit and not 1632 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,160 Speaker 1: have to play a ton of snaps. This makes a 1633 01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,320 Speaker 1: lot of sense, and it also alleviates a little bit 1634 01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,759 Speaker 1: the Bills need for defensive tackle depth early in the draft. 1635 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,599 Speaker 1: Most definitely, speaking of the draft, you had a mock 1636 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,280 Speaker 1: draft watch that just not mock draft watch, that's what 1637 01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,720 Speaker 1: I do. You had a mock draft that just came 1638 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,360 Speaker 1: out you're at one about one a week you said, 1639 01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 1: so you had a three round mock draft that came out. 1640 01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,000 Speaker 1: So let's go through who you had the Bills picking 1641 01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,599 Speaker 1: in the first three rounds of the NFL Draft. At 1642 01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,880 Speaker 1: number twenty seven, who was it? It was Jack Campbell, 1643 01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 1: and I already kind of spoke maybe too much on him, 1644 01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 1: just Jack Campbell fan account from now on, Guys like 1645 01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,600 Speaker 1: so much about Jack Campbell. I think just fits what 1646 01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:59,879 Speaker 1: the Bills ultimately want at the linebacker spot. Size, coverage ability, 1647 01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,200 Speaker 1: He's a great tackler. He's not going to miss a 1648 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,160 Speaker 1: lot of tackles. I think at times that was an 1649 01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,599 Speaker 1: issue for Tremaine Edmonds that a lot of running backs 1650 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,200 Speaker 1: would kind of slip off his hands. That does not 1651 01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,920 Speaker 1: happen with Jack Campbell. Again, he might not get picked 1652 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,719 Speaker 1: that early, and if he were, if he was ultimately 1653 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,760 Speaker 1: picked by the Bills at twenty seven, I think a 1654 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,679 Speaker 1: lot of national media, other national media would say it's 1655 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:27,960 Speaker 1: too early. He's not really a first round caliber player. Again, production, athleticism, 1656 01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,320 Speaker 1: That's what I look for. There are two big check 1657 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,760 Speaker 1: marks that I want to have for my prospects. They're 1658 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,680 Speaker 1: going to be first round picks. And Jack Campbell has 1659 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,639 Speaker 1: both of those in spades. Number fifty nine. Is this 1660 01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,759 Speaker 1: guy going to be around at fifty nine? Chris Darnell Washington, 1661 01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,920 Speaker 1: the tight end from Georgia. It's hard to say. It's 1662 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,760 Speaker 1: kind of similar to Jack Campbell. If you look at 1663 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,680 Speaker 1: some mock drafts, Darnell Washington's maybe the third tight end 1664 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,879 Speaker 1: off the board in the first round. Others he's available 1665 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,280 Speaker 1: in the third round. So it's really hard to say 1666 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,839 Speaker 1: because this is someone at Georgia. He entered that program 1667 01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:01,120 Speaker 1: for Kirby Smart was the number one athlete recruit in 1668 01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,120 Speaker 1: the entire nation in twenty twenty. He was kind of 1669 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,559 Speaker 1: this tall, spindley guy beefed up while he was there 1670 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:11,000 Speaker 1: in the Bulldogs program, six foot seven, two hundred and 1671 01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,400 Speaker 1: sixty four pounds and ran in the low four sixes. 1672 01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,920 Speaker 1: He reminds me a lot of Martelis Bennett, who was 1673 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:22,679 Speaker 1: a really big, imposing receiving threat who could also really 1674 01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,040 Speaker 1: get after it as a blocker. And Darnell Washington. I've 1675 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,639 Speaker 1: said it, it's kind of been my go to line 1676 01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,880 Speaker 1: with him. You put him on the field, he is 1677 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,040 Speaker 1: a sixth offensive lineman. We heard you mentioned it off 1678 01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,840 Speaker 1: air last season. When the Bills signed Oj Howard, there 1679 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:36,360 Speaker 1: was some talk that, hey, they're going to do a 1680 01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,599 Speaker 1: lot of two tight end sets. It's going to really 1681 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,640 Speaker 1: be tough for defenses to match up personnel wise. What 1682 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:47,479 Speaker 1: are they gonna do? Oj Howard ultimately not like ultimately 1683 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:51,040 Speaker 1: doesn't make the team, so that never really materializes. With 1684 01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,040 Speaker 1: Darnell Washington, You're almost getting a younger OJ Howard that 1685 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,080 Speaker 1: I think has upside because of that recruit rankings that 1686 01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,760 Speaker 1: he was a great athlete coming out of school and 1687 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,880 Speaker 1: now he's a three down tight end that can be 1688 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:05,800 Speaker 1: a good receiver with a lot of upset. He's very 1689 01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,000 Speaker 1: young too. You talk about dual threat quarterbacks coming out 1690 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,519 Speaker 1: of college football. This is a dual threat tight end 1691 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,479 Speaker 1: in the fact that he can act as a wide receiver, 1692 01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 1: but he can also act as a bad, bad, bad 1693 01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,479 Speaker 1: blocker that can be that sixth offensive lineman that you 1694 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,360 Speaker 1: were talking about. And then in the third round for 1695 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,040 Speaker 1: the Bills, who do you have heading to Buffalo wide 1696 01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,920 Speaker 1: receiver Jaden Reid from Michigan State. He's been a favorite 1697 01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,519 Speaker 1: of mine since I watched him early on in the 1698 01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,640 Speaker 1: pre draft process, and maybe there's something to this. He 1699 01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,360 Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of Stefon Diggs when he was 1700 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:37,719 Speaker 1: a prospect coming out of Maryland. Was a fifth round pick, 1701 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,840 Speaker 1: not crazy bag, didn't test through the roof, but you 1702 01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:42,760 Speaker 1: watched him at Maryland, you said, this guy just make 1703 01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,800 Speaker 1: plays after play after play. That's the same vibe that 1704 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,519 Speaker 1: I got watching Jayden Reid that at Michigan State the 1705 01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 1: quarterback play wasn't amazing. The offensive line maybe held back 1706 01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,559 Speaker 1: the passing offense a little bit there for the Spartans. 1707 01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,559 Speaker 1: Contested catchability at five to eleven is absolutely through the roof. 1708 01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,840 Speaker 1: He played like he's about six foot three. The yards 1709 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,320 Speaker 1: after the catch skill. I think his very Diggs ask 1710 01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,640 Speaker 1: where he's going to bounce off some tacklers, but he 1711 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:11,600 Speaker 1: has some joking abilities, some burst tested very similarly to 1712 01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,479 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. Third round. I think he's gonna be there 1713 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,880 Speaker 1: and would be someone that again would not have to 1714 01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:20,920 Speaker 1: be relied upon to be a hundred target player in 1715 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,280 Speaker 1: the next couple of seasons. I think, learning from Stefan 1716 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 1: Diggs similarly size, with comparable athleticism, he could be a 1717 01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,000 Speaker 1: really good pro. That's ultimately one of the biggest steals 1718 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,920 Speaker 1: in this twenty twenty three draft. I mean, if this 1719 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,360 Speaker 1: is how the first three rounds of the NFL Draft 1720 01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,080 Speaker 1: win for the Bills, Like, I'm gonna have a parade 1721 01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:42,759 Speaker 1: because sign me up this amazing linebacker, tight end, wide 1722 01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:46,719 Speaker 1: receiver who can all these guys they make Josh Allen 1723 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,280 Speaker 1: better even a defensive player, because you're handing the ball 1724 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,519 Speaker 1: back to Josh Allen, because you're getting off the field 1725 01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,960 Speaker 1: on third down. I love it. I think a lot 1726 01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,600 Speaker 1: of people who are listening and watching also love that 1727 01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,280 Speaker 1: fingers cross as something like that happens for the Bills 1728 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,479 Speaker 1: when they are on the board with that twenty seventh 1729 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,240 Speaker 1: pick in the NFL Draft. All right, when we come back, 1730 01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:07,360 Speaker 1: we are going to close things up here on One 1731 01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,240 Speaker 1: Bills Live. Maybe maybe visit the tweet sheet really quickly 1732 01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,840 Speaker 1: before we sign off. Here we're one Bills Live. We're 1733 01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:25,000 Speaker 1: presented by Clyda Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, 1734 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,400 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of discussion about what the Bills 1735 01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,080 Speaker 1: could do at number twenty seven in the first round, 1736 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,320 Speaker 1: but I want to extend beyond the first round. You 1737 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,840 Speaker 1: have a top fifty big board that we can find 1738 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,599 Speaker 1: on Cbsports and on your Twitter. What are some names 1739 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,000 Speaker 1: that are on that top fifty big board that you 1740 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,400 Speaker 1: think might be good options for the Bills on Day two. 1741 01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,559 Speaker 1: Because there's going to be some good depth on Day 1742 01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,639 Speaker 1: two of this draft. I will stick with the random 1743 01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 1: Iowa theme of today's show, Sam laport of the tight end. 1744 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 1: If the Bills don't love Darnell Washington as much as 1745 01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,840 Speaker 1: I do, or he's already gone. Sam Laporta, to me, 1746 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,280 Speaker 1: is the best yards after the catch tight end in 1747 01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,400 Speaker 1: his draft class, and I've been a big proponent that 1748 01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,719 Speaker 1: I think this team needs to get better in that regard. 1749 01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,160 Speaker 1: And it's not just joking out defenders. I think a 1750 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,080 Speaker 1: lot of what we've seen in today's NFL with the 1751 01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,479 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel and the AJ Brown types. You need to 1752 01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,200 Speaker 1: be able to just bounce off tackles. You need to 1753 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:22,320 Speaker 1: have that contact balance. I think Sam Laporta is so 1754 01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,920 Speaker 1: good in that regard. He's a little bit underrated in 1755 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,080 Speaker 1: this class. It is part of the reason why this 1756 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,000 Speaker 1: tight end class is so good because he's like the 1757 01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,280 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth or sixth guy at that position who 1758 01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,000 Speaker 1: will probably be there in the second round. So offensively, 1759 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,200 Speaker 1: Sam Laporta. Defensively, I will go off the grid a 1760 01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:43,639 Speaker 1: little bit. Morrow Ojamo from Texas. He's a defensive tackle. 1761 01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,960 Speaker 1: If the Bills are looking into the future at the 1762 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,280 Speaker 1: defensive tackle spot, he is that up the field rusher 1763 01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:54,160 Speaker 1: that uses pass rush moves, his burst quickness to become 1764 01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,960 Speaker 1: a really good pass rusher. I think maybe in a 1765 01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:58,519 Speaker 1: year or two is where you want to see him 1766 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:02,000 Speaker 1: be in a full time row. I love Maura Ojamo 1767 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,679 Speaker 1: from Texas. Okay, a tight end and a defensive tackle 1768 01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:08,120 Speaker 1: that could be available for this team on Day two. Chris, 1769 01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing all your insight on 1770 01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,800 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. Some great some great names that we 1771 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,519 Speaker 1: learned about in today's show. So appreciate it. Thanks for 1772 01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,559 Speaker 1: having me all right, Steve Tasker and Chris Brown will 1773 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,479 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. Have a great day, guys,