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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyon, and this is episode number four

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Speaker 1: hundred and today I'm joined by my buddy Josh Hilliard

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Speaker 1: for some New Year's resolutions and end of year reflections,

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Speaker 1: and we're also going to get into some late season

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Speaker 1: firearm considerations with Luke Torkinson. All Right, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt Podcast, brought to you by Onyx. It

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Speaker 1: is New Year's Eve when this episode is dropping, so

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Speaker 1: first and foremost happy New Year's Hope you guys have

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Speaker 1: got some fun plans in store for today, or if

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this later, I hope you did have

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Speaker 1: a good time. Um, what I want to do today

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Speaker 1: is is kind of have a two parttern. We've got

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Speaker 1: my buddy further, Josh Further Hilliard on the line here

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Speaker 1: momentarily because we started the hunting season with Josh. The

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Speaker 1: very first episode of my two thousand hunting season was

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Speaker 1: with Josh talking about our upcoming hunt and some of

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Speaker 1: our hopes and dreams of the year, so it seemed

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Speaker 1: appropriate to end it with him as well. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: wrap up the year talk about some of our highs,

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Speaker 1: some of our lows, our toughest moments are our most

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Speaker 1: proud moments. Josh is gonna walk you through his season,

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Speaker 1: which he hasn't shared yet here on the podcast this year.

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Speaker 1: Um So you're gonna get to hear some cool stories there.

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Speaker 1: I had an amazing, really cool experience with my son

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Speaker 1: guys about that story. Um So that's part one. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap up the year with some stories and some

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Speaker 1: reflection on what a despite a lot of challenges in um,

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Speaker 1: at least Josh and I are able to find some

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Speaker 1: silver linings with our hunting season that we wanted to

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Speaker 1: talk you through. And then secondly to wrap it up

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Speaker 1: slightly different take. But you know, the is that time

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Speaker 1: of the year when a lot of us, Josh and

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Speaker 1: I included, are out there trying to kill does with

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Speaker 1: our guns. There's a lot of people with late firearm seasons,

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Speaker 1: late ant lotoists, firearms seasons, stuff like that, and and

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Speaker 1: I personally have not done a good enough job talking

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Speaker 1: through firearm gear, firearm practice, firearm maintenance, that kind of

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Speaker 1: stuff that's especially important come this time of year when

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Speaker 1: the weather can get things kind of wonky. So I

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Speaker 1: found I pulled in who I think is gonna be

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Speaker 1: Luke Torkleson. He works at Weatherby, and he's gonna walk

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Speaker 1: us through a bunch of things to be thinking about

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Speaker 1: how to make sure we're not surprised by any weird

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Speaker 1: malfunctions because of the weather. How to take care of

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Speaker 1: your gun immediately after coming in off of a nasty

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Speaker 1: snowy hunt in January or December. Um, what to do

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Speaker 1: when you're done for this season, and putting away that

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Speaker 1: pick it back up next year. So that's what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna cover in part two. It's a far rangine conversation

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Speaker 1: across those two, but I think we'll give you a

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Speaker 1: to uh close out your year. And the final thing

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Speaker 1: I'll say is this is episode four hundred, four hundred. Um.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty wild that this podcast has been going on

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Speaker 1: for that long, for that many episodes. And the only

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Speaker 1: reason that's the case is because all of you, Because

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Speaker 1: all of you've tuned in and listened and supported this

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Speaker 1: show and supported me and what we're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: And I want you to know that I don't take

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Speaker 1: that for granted. I really appreciate that. I appreciate your time,

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Speaker 1: your tension, your interest, and I can also tell you

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Speaker 1: That's coming year is gonna be a really big one

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Speaker 1: for Wired Hunt. We've got some new things in store.

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Speaker 1: We've got I don't know, Uh, We've just got a

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Speaker 1: going to try to take what we've built here with

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Speaker 1: of fun too. So stay tuned. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: great year. We're all going to grow together, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: after that you'll hear from Luke. All Right, man, Josh,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for being here for this one.

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Speaker 1: It seemed appropriate that you should be here for this

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Speaker 1: recorded our first podcast Hunting Season in I don't know,

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Speaker 1: episode is airing, Josh is actually New Year's Eve, so

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Speaker 1: we're doing. Uh, So it seemed fitting that further be

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Speaker 1: here at the beginning of the end. Well, hey, I

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Speaker 1: that was four months ago already that we were on Idaho.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, right, It's uh, it's been a wild ride.

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Speaker 1: was going at times, that was a damn good trip. An.

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Speaker 1: I was just looking back at pictures of fishing and

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Speaker 1: a great time. I wouldn't mind being back there right now. Um, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: then what naturally happens at this time of year, which is,

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Speaker 1: new year. It seemed like this would be a good

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Speaker 1: at the very beginning of the trip. It was I

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Speaker 1: called the ten Steps to the Best Season of your Life?

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Speaker 1: Remember that? Yep, yep, yep, I remember that. So here's

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Speaker 1: any of the steps that were listed in that episode? Oh? Man, Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm remember our conversation, a lot of things we talked about,

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Speaker 1: do on it and get some new people out there.

431
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're we're super excited and and just really

432
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: looking forward to see when where this all goes. Yeah,

433
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's good stuff, man. So so back to

434
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: your season though, You're your early season was kind of

435
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 1: taken over with planning and executing on your field of

436
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 1: fork hunt, and then October goes along and you're hunting

437
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 1: the public land I remember, and then you're also hunting

438
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: the main spot. Yep, yep, so hunting some public land.

439
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 1: I've I've had a uh antaly list tag here for

440
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: the unit I'm in the d m u UM for

441
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: public land for a number of years and I just

442
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: have never filled it. You know. I spend a lot

443
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 1: of time in the early season, you know, trying to

444
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: maybe get on trying to pattern a book or something

445
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: that's some of my primary spots, and just get caught

446
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: up in that and just don't spend as much time

447
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: trying to fill that tag as I should. And I

448
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 1: decided I was going to try to give a couple

449
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: of a good hunts early in the year to try

450
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: to fill that tag. And had one night where um,

451
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 1: I had set up and had two doughs come out

452
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 1: of this swamp and into this point of timber, and man,

453
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 1: I needed her to take like one more step. And

454
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: this this little peninsula there was a ladder stand at

455
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: in it end. Like last year, there's a ladder stand

456
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: at the end of this point. And I swear she

457
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: came into those that little patch of timber there and

458
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: look was starting to look straight up in the trees,

459
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: and I was I was maybe twenty yards maybe down

460
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: from that, and they just knew something was up, and um,

461
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: I needed about one more step and and what I

462
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 1: had a like a ten fifteen yard shot something like that,

463
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: and uh they buggered out of there, and uh that

464
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: was that. I didn't I didn't have another encounter in

465
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: that spot. I tried going back there maybe once or

466
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: twice more, but nothing happened so close. But no cigar there.

467
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,479
Speaker 1: And and that was I guess maybe towards the end

468
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 1: of October when when that encounter happened. And then I

469
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 1: really shift focused to trying to trying to get on

470
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: a good buck down at my um my primary spot

471
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: that I hunt of private land. So it's it's a

472
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: forty acre spot right here, your main chunk. Give me

473
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: the give me the cliff notes. What was what are

474
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: the high notes there? As far as like the memorable

475
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: things that happened, because it seemed like it was a

476
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: little tougher this year the previous years, Um, what was

477
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: what was the story there? What are the highlights? Yeah,

478
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: I mean the memorable stuff was that there was not

479
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: very much memorable stuff, which was different than the year before.

480
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: I had. I had seen quite a bit of mature

481
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: buck activity on that a farm um early and often,

482
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: like I first night I ever hunted it, I had

483
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: a I had a a shooter buck at at twenty yards,

484
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: but I he was behind some thick stuff and walked

485
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: straight away from me. I never had a good opportunity.

486
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: And it was just like it seems like every time

487
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: when I was out there, something that was happening um

488
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: or ear least there was some excitement. This year was

489
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, I saw a lot of dose um some

490
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: young bucks. Um man. It just it was not there

491
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: wasn't hardly any sign in the woods up there. Um

492
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: just it was just very interesting as running trail cameras

493
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: wasn't getting much on. I had had a bunch of

494
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: pictures like early um like late August, early September, and

495
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: I just really, um really kind of shut off. UM.

496
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know what was going on out there. Um,

497
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: but it was like that really all the way through um,

498
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: even even the first couple of weeks in November. Um.

499
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: I was the first buck, the first mature buck I

500
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: saw out there was uh November, remember this Friday, Um,

501
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: and uh kind of mumbled up an opportunity and and

502
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: just spook that deer and and that was that. So

503
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: I was, you know, two days away from gun season.

504
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: That was really the only good encounter I had the

505
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: entire first thirteen days in November. And I've been out

506
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: quite a bit. Um you know again some some young

507
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: bucks and pasta, and I think what would be a

508
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: good deer next year. Um saw one shooter like way

509
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: off a couple hundred yards like to neighbors properties over

510
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: that I could see in a field. Um. But man, yeah,

511
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: it just it's a weird year, weird year out there.

512
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: Just not much happening, all right. I want to cover

513
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: for both you and I two things. Toughest moment of

514
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: your season and the best moment of your season. I'll

515
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,479
Speaker 1: answer mind first and explain that, and then I'll let

516
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: you you share whatever you want from years. And I

517
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: think I know where your highest moment is. I've setting

518
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: you up here to to share your high moment. But

519
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: but my toughest moment would have been right around the

520
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: same time when you just described your Friday the thirteenth encounter.

521
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: I think mine was Thursday the twelve, which is the

522
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: much discussed miss of Tran when I had been grinding

523
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: out all season and having all these close calls, couldn't

524
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: get a shot, couldn't get a shot, and then I

525
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: finally have him coming into range. He gets into that

526
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: thick cover, and I felt this pressure to to to

527
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: force a shot, and I made a stupid mistake and

528
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: took a shot I just shouldn't have and uh, and

529
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: I missed him. That was definitely my low point of

530
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: the season, I think, Um, yeah, I got I mean,

531
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: without a question, that was my low point of the season. Um,

532
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: But I will tell you it did give me a

533
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: chance to practice what I preach, which which I discussed

534
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: an episode whatever it was when we did the ten

535
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: Steps to the Best Season of your Life, I had

536
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: to I had to ex on one of those things,

537
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: which was control which you can and relax on what

538
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: you can't. And so in that moment, I remember, it

539
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: was really shitty and I was very upset after it.

540
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: And then later that day I said, all right, man,

541
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: you it happened. Like you can't control that anymore. So

542
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: there's no point like kicking yourself about it, or hating

543
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: yourself for it, or um stressing about anymore. It happened.

544
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: All you can do is is figure out where to

545
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: go from here. And so I'm pretty proud of myself

546
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: for turning that around pretty quick. And I kept at

547
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: it and uh, and you know I was able to

548
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: turn things around later in the year. Um. If I

549
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: look back on my season and try to think about

550
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: what my highest points were, um, I've got three of them. Um.

551
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: One was the one to end up killing Tran uh

552
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: ten days later. So that was an obvious high point

553
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: culmination of three years and you know that it's actually well,

554
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't the next hunt, but um, yeah,

555
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was definitely a clear outcome

556
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: of being able to turn around and keep at it

557
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: and adapt and push on. So I was, I was.

558
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: I was happy about how that all came together. But

559
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: then the other two high points were related to, oh,

560
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: you know what, I've been another low point. I would

561
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: say that another low point, maybe worse honestly now that

562
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: I think about it. Um, the trans miss was a

563
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: major low point, but I probably felt even crappier when

564
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: Dan missed his deer on when I was mentoring him.

565
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: I felt so horrible about that whole situation about you know,

566
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: just especially because I thought after the shot, I swear

567
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: I saw him go down once he got into the timber,

568
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: and and I even looking back on the footage, you

569
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 1: can see he gets in the timber and that it

570
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: looks like he falls down. And that's that was the thing.

571
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: I remember seeing my buy notes, and it almost looks

572
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: like it was like a big berm and he went

573
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: over berman underneath it, and it almost looks like he

574
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: does like trip and fall. Um. But but obviously you know,

575
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: after everything, you well, no blood, no nothing, it was not.

576
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: But I I feel the worst about the fact that

577
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: after the shot he was kept saying, I'm nervous about

578
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: the shot. I'm not sure about the shot, and I

579
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: was like, you got him, you got him. I was

580
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: so pumped, and I was trying to get him excited,

581
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: and like, you know, I was so thrilled for him,

582
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: and I was hyping him up and then ended up

583
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: getting his hopes up. So when it all came down

584
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: the way it did, I just felt super bad, super bad,

585
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: and just you know, just I didn't want that to

586
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: be something that would detract from him wanting to keep

587
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: doing it, you know, like you're mentoring something like that.

588
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: And even before the hunt, and one of the things

589
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: he was most worried about was like, gosh, I just

590
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: want to make sure I get a good shot. I

591
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: don't want to wound something. I don't want to miss something.

592
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: And then his greatest fear ends up, you know, happening

593
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: he misses the beer. Um, my greatest fear was like,

594
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: I don't want this thing to happen. And then it

595
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: turned him away from wine and hunt again the few sure,

596
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: I don't want him to have such a negative experience

597
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: that he won't keep trying. So that was that was

598
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: That was a low point. But fast forward to what

599
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: then I'm talking about the things I'm excited about. I'm

600
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: proud about it. I was proud about me getting the

601
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: shot tramp, but then back to helping someone else. So

602
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: super super high point of the year was getting to

603
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: help my dad get his first year with the crossbow.

604
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: That was that was that was such a great experience

605
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: and such a great memory for us, um and just

606
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: seeing how excited he was for that. Dear, I love

607
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: getting to watch that video now I can like relive that.

608
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: And then my son really likes watching He always wants

609
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: to see Grandpa's bucks. We watched that video, and I

610
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: love when my dad's like, and you know how how

611
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: dead is with like points. He's like he's like, oh, yeah,

612
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: that's a that's a nice six point. All right, Mark,

613
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: that's a nice six pointer. Like, yeah, Dad, it's a

614
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: great six pointer. Just you know, just Dabby and Dad

615
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: and he was so excited the whole way and me too,

616
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: and um man, haven't that come together? You guys have

617
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: that picture you guys have that was at the end

618
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: of the episode, and see both of you guys with

619
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: that with that dear, that that's such an awesome picture

620
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: that should be in a frame in both of your

621
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: guys in's house. That was that's a great memory. Yeah,

622
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: I agree. That's uh the Life for Life list right there. Um,

623
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: which brings me to the final high point, which just

624
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: happened last night, which is, uh, last night I killed

625
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: the doll and and so last night when people listening

626
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: to this, this this will be about two weeks ago. But

627
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: I killed the doll and. Um, I was able to

628
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: track her and find her pretty close. And it was

629
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: a situation where it was early enough that I could

630
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: get my son Everett, who's too and take him out

631
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: to go and try to recover it for himself. So

632
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: I went and got ever brought him out. Um. It

633
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: was just a good situation. We didn't have to go

634
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: too far. And um it was the coolest thing. Man

635
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: he is, you know, he's like super amped on everything hunting.

636
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: He wants to watch all the hunting every night. Like

637
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to watch Sesame Straight or Mickey Mouse

638
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: or something. He wants to watch Chasing November or Back

639
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: forty or some deer hunting show, and then he will

640
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: every day. His main thing is he's hunting. He's hunting.

641
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: He's got to fake guns and he's got a fake

642
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: bone arrow and he's constantly playing out different hunting scenes,

643
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: like all day. He's this kind of thing he's doing.

644
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: So he finally got to go out in his first

645
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: real track job, and we got him out there and

646
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: he was like super excited. As soon as I got

647
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: out of the UTV, turn on the flash that got

648
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: a head lamp on him, and first thing he says, DADN,

649
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: where's the blood. Damn, where's the blood? And so I

650
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: get him on the trail and then right away he

651
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: starts seeing it and he's like, look, look, there's more

652
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: and and and he he is honestly better at tracking

653
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: blood than I am. Dude, he's I mean, that's that's

654
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: not too hard to You don't have to bar set

655
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: very high on the blood track. Yes, yes, I know.

656
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: Admittedly he's not not color blind, so he's got that

657
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: going for him, which I do not have going for me. Um,

658
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: but it got me really excited for future future track

659
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: jobs because he can see it so much better than me. Like, honestly,

660
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: this two year old was like, there's some, there's some,

661
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: and I wasn't saying that. Um. So we we tracked

662
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: the deer back to where I had left her and

663
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: U and it was the first, you know, dead deer

664
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: he had seen out in the woods, first time he's

665
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: ever been like out walking around the woods after dark two,

666
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: you know. So it was a whole bunch of is

667
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: he gonna be scared of the dark out here? Is

668
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: he gonna be scared of seeing this dead deer in

669
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: the ground and and everything. He was just like a

670
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: pro He was just excited. It wasn't scared when he

671
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: saw the deer. He was so excited, like yelling an excitement,

672
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: and I wanted to touch her and look at her,

673
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: and and then he's like, Dad, let's take the dear

674
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: made out? Can we take the dear maid out? So

675
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't going to get the deer in

676
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: front of him. I was worried, like maybe that's too

677
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: soon to do that. Some idea was to drag the deer,

678
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: get the deer into the UTV, and then not bring

679
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: ever back and then come out there myself later and

680
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: gut her. Um. But I couldn't lift her up into

681
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: the canyn and she was just big, big deer full

682
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: of all the guts and stuff. I was like, I

683
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: can't I can't big her up. Maybe I could have

684
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: forced it, but I decided, you know what, I'm just

685
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: gonna gut her and make this easier. And so I

686
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: had ever sit up at the front of the deer,

687
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: like up by the head so he wouldn't see too

688
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: much gory stuff. And the whole time of Daddy, I

689
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: want to see, Daddy, I want to see show me

690
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: the deer, Danny. And so he sat up there and

691
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: then he kept standing up and trying like walk towards

692
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: the back and see what's going on. Um, and he

693
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: saw a little but uh, but you know, at no

694
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: point did he get like grossed out or worried. I

695
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: kept saying, was like, hey, if you don't like this,

696
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: we can stop. I'll take you home. Um. You know,

697
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: you let Dad know, You let Daddy know if you're

698
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: cold or anything. And that's the whole time. He was

699
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: just just wanted to be a part of it, wanted

700
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: to see, I wanted to touch, wanted to help. He

701
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: helped me drag it. He helped me quote unquote lift

702
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: her up into the u TV and all that stuff.

703
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: It was just it was the coolest thing he was.

704
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: He was just so into it, and uh, came home

705
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: and had to show mom the pictures, and you know,

706
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: he wanted a picture of him holding the deer's head

707
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: like Daddy does with a buck. So we did all

708
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: that and it's just, oh man, it's got me so

709
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: excited for the future with him. That's fun. It's great.

710
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: And then you know, we do this thing with elf

711
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: on the shelf. You know that Christmas deal a lot

712
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: of people do, right, and so so our ELF's name

713
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: is Eddie. And so this morning, whenever woke up, he

714
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: has to go look for Eddie the Elf in the morning.

715
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: And he went into the living room and then a

716
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: blood trail began, and then he followed the blood. He

717
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: followed the blood trail to the table where Eddie the

718
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: Elf was gutting a doll. So I had a little

719
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: dear figuring flipped upside down in a knife, a fake

720
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: knife taped to Eddie's hand, and he was working on

721
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: the deer. Ever came run. I was like, look ed,

722
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: he's gotten the dough too, getting the dear me. That's great,

723
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: that's great, that's a lot of fun. Yeah, I was,

724
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: I was ecstatic. I was. I was really riding the

725
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: high last night after all that so that those are

726
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: my three highest some some some big ones there. So

727
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: now now it's your turn. Lowest moment, highest moment, all right, yeah,

728
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: I mean lowest moment would be a day after your

729
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: lowest moment. Um. Yeah, I think I even texted you,

730
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: like in our group chat, I said, I don't worry,

731
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: I'll screw up for something tomorrow to to make you

732
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: feel better or something like that, just joking around. And

733
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: sure enough, you know, one of the first year I

734
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: see in the morning is it is a good buck

735
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: and just totally screwed that whole situation up, just just

736
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: dumb and uh so, yeah, I stepped in and helped

737
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: take some of the some of the pain off you

738
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: and put it all on me. And that was my

739
00:36:54,880 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: lowest moment that Friday. And now again, are you are

740
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: you willing to like how you can describe it all? How? Yeah?

741
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't said anything to anybody about this.

742
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: Don't You don't need we can cut this out. You

743
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: don't need to, but if you want to, I'd be

744
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: happy to. It would be a good therapeutic exercise, I

745
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: think here, but I had a very similar situation actually

746
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: had had a nice buck come in from um an

747
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: area where I didn't think he would come from. And

748
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: he's just I had to get kind of all twisted

749
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: around and in my saddle to try to get a shot.

750
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: And he was going through my really the only good

751
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: shooting lane that I had, and Um, I just rushed

752
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: the shot. And there's a there's some brush in in

753
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: the way that I had had not seen, and and

754
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: my arrow deflected off of it, and then it deflected

755
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: and missed it behind him. Um the arrow ended up

756
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: like behind a tree. I couldn't even see it. Um

757
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: from where I was. Um, you set up. So I

758
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: had a pretty good deflection there, and and that deer

759
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: trotted off and looked back at me, and I just

760
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: saw my season, you know, trotting out of my life again, right,

761
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: I mean, just up over the hill. And and I

762
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: thought that was that. You know where we're at in Michigan,

763
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: we don't get too many opportunities at hat um, you know,

764
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: mature deer. Um there are few and far between. And

765
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, just how is the process coping with that?

766
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's horrible because um, of course I

767
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: had a miss last year too, So it's just like

768
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 1: I need to I need to really kill a doe

769
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: with my bow and just kind of get some of

770
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: that confidence back, um, because I'd be lying to you

771
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: if I said, I'm I'm still not a little shaking

772
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: with the whole bow and sit in the backyard and

773
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: shooting and feel super confident with it, and and I

774
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: just got to get that back. I don't know what's

775
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: going on with me, So definitely some some things to

776
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: still work on here in the off season and try

777
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: to get some of that confidence back. Um, I don't know,

778
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: but um yeah, man. So I just like I was

779
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: just sitting there. I was planning on sitting all day,

780
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: and this happened like first thing in the morning, like

781
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes twenty minutes after first light, and I was like,

782
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: oh my god. So I just like I had to

783
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: sit there all morning. Just I just replanned that over

784
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: in my head again and again and again, and and

785
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: you know, there's another slow morning. He saw a couple

786
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: of dolls and falls after that, and I was like,

787
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm getting down. I'm gonna go back

788
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: to the truck. I'm gonna regroup, I'm gonna have some lunch,

789
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: give my wits about me. And I went back out

790
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: that sat that afternoon and and again no luck. So

791
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: I just I was just down. I think I hunted

792
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: the morning that next day. Is that the day before

793
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: gun season? Actually, I don't even think I hunted that

794
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: next morning. I think he's like, I'm just gonna I'm

795
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: just gonna try to regroup and get get mentally better

796
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: and and uh so done. Opening day gun season rolled around. Um,

797
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: I went back out to that general area. Again, I

798
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: didn't see anything like the first two days of gun season.

799
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: Just a couple of bikes, a couple of couple of doughs,

800
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: and that area gets a lot of hunting pressure and

801
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: there was some there was we had that really bad

802
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: windstorm on remember that. It was like yeah, yeah, it

803
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: was dead. Um that morning, very few shots. Um, I

804
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: saw two trees come down. I was like, okay, I

805
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: get not hear this, Like one was like within fifty

806
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: yards and he was like, all right, this is probably

807
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: not not safe. I hundred a couple of hours that

808
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: morning and then bailed. And and then the next couple

809
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: of days of the same kind of story with just

810
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: about the weather just slow, heard quite a few gunshots,

811
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: but just nothing is really moving. Um, nothing is really

812
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: getting pushed around and and uh man, I was just um.

813
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: I remember I was driving down my my som running late.

814
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of work to get done. That

815
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: took me longer than I thought it would. I'm driving down,

816
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: I called you, and that's like, yeah, I don't know.

817
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about still hunting through these these pines. Is

818
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: betting areas a few days after gun season. They may

819
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: be in there, and I'm running late. I don't have

820
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: time to go hang a set um windows wrong for

821
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: this little ground blind that I wanted to sit, and uh,

822
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: without saying you basically said you're an idiot. Don't do that.

823
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: So I'll give you some some credit for what happened,

824
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: because I ended up just going to sit that ground blind.

825
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: You know, the wind was supposed to be like kind

826
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: of like a southwest, and it was definitely not southwest.

827
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: It was south and that was I could have got

828
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: away with the southwest. Um, but once I got into

829
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: blind it kind of switched up and and I was like,

830
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: Jesus is terrible. I'm blowing right into this these pines.

831
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: But just describe this, describe the set up a little

832
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: bit more before you continue, because I think one question

833
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: that a lot of people would have is, all right,

834
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: you're hunting a forty acre piece and you find you've

835
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: founded a decent amount um and you talked about how

836
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of hunting pressure all around. So a

837
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: lot of people struggle in situations like that. So, so

838
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: what I want to know is, you know, how how

839
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: did you manage to put yourself in a position where,

840
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: you know, a week earlier you gotta shout him mature

841
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: buck on a forty acre piece surrounded by lots of hunters,

842
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: and now you're back in there again and you're about

843
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: to tell me something good's going to happen. Uh, how

844
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: did you? How did what's the set up? Where'd you

845
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: find them mature buck in this kind of situation on

846
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: a little piece of property? Yeah? Yeah, So a little

847
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: piece of property. Um, it's a really kind of an

848
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: interesting spot. Um, it's a little piece of property. And

849
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: the house on the property is like back towards the

850
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: back of the property of this forty acres on top

851
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: of this little ridge. It falls off into this creek bottom.

852
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: And so there's this two lane you know, basically the

853
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: driveway that cuts all the way kind of winds around

854
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: all the way through this property. UM and it's a

855
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: bunch of it's just real open timbers really all it

856
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: is UM with some some ridges and stuff, some little

857
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: rolling hills in it, UM that breaks up the topography

858
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: a little bit. UM. But it's really just a big

859
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: open woods with a bunch of hickories and a few oaks.

860
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: And then in the in the what would be the

861
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: northwest corner is this heavily um I shouldn't they have it,

862
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: But it's a it's a about an eight to ten

863
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: acre patch of like pines and conifers that the landowner

864
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: planet years ago, just real thick, nasty um vetting stuff

865
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: that I think a lot of the deer just pile

866
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: into um because it's the best security cover around um

867
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: And and really that's where I focused. The majority of

868
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: my hunting is is on the outskirts of that little

869
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: chunk of pines that seems to be where all the

870
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: activity is. UM. So, I think UM had this This

871
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: general section has not this general property has not been

872
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: hunted much in the past. UM. So I think they're

873
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: used to some human disturbance in there with you know,

874
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: cars going and out all the way through the property.

875
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: You know, the the landowner box or dog along the

876
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: along the road and and the lanes. I think they're

877
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: used to a certain amount of human um no presence um.

878
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: I just try to still be really careful and calculated

879
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: about how I get in there and out of there

880
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: and when I'm hunting it, because it can get blown

881
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: up really quick to just being a small little property

882
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I mean you have been careful. I

883
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: remember a couple of times during the rut and like

884
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: we're all on the group text exchanging text messages of

885
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: where you're going, what are you doing? And there were

886
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: some days that you weren't even hunting on your best

887
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: spot and and we're like, what are you doing? Man?

888
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: But you know the fact that there's really just one

889
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: little courier that's your very best and the best. You've

890
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: had to get careful. And this this this early November

891
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: was so weird with the weather. I mean it was

892
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: so hot, um relatively speaking for like November, and we

893
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: we had so many days of the same like south

894
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: southwest winds that it's really difficult to hunt that property

895
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: in that wind um like like this day, Like if

896
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: it was if it was both season, I probably would

897
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: not have gone down there to to hunt that that piece,

898
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: but given that it was a gun season, I was

899
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: being a little bit more. I don't not as conservative

900
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: as I would have been. I was just like, you

901
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: know what I need, I need to be in there

902
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: and hunting that. You never know during gun season, who's

903
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: pushing stuff around and what's happening, and um, you know,

904
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: throw caution to the wind a little bit. And I

905
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: and I ended up sorry, I was just gonna add

906
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: one more piece, which was I remember on that phone

907
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: call you you were pretty down and kind of frustrated stuff,

908
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: and and you were talking about like just walking through

909
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: the pine still hunting it and stuff. And I think

910
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: I think what I remember telling you was kind of

911
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: what ended up helping me kill a deer later, which

912
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: was you know, sometimes you just gotta like, are there

913
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: still does there? He said, yes, Are you still seeing

914
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: a lot of doughs moving through? And he said yes, Okay,

915
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: well then you haven't overpressured that chunk would cover too

916
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: much yet then, and right now these bucks could be

917
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: all over the place. If you've got the dos there,

918
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: just keep hammering that best place until either a buck

919
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: does come through or the does tell you that you've

920
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,479
Speaker 1: pressured it too much, um, because I remember you thinking

921
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: that maybe I've been mucking up, mucking it up too much.

922
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: And and when you said that you were still seeing

923
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: all those doughs. I was like, man, you just got

924
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: to keep on, just keep doing the right thing, and

925
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: then finally you'll get lucky, which is the thing I

926
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: kept having to tell myself. And it kind of worked out.

927
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: But that's that's what you end up doing. You end

928
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: up going to that corner where you thought you see

929
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: the worst dos, right, yep, exactly, That's exactly what happened.

930
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: I ended up going to that um that same spot

931
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: little ground blind I had sat opening. I guess it

932
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: was not opening day. I said that the second third

933
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: day of gun season. UM. And I just said, I'm

934
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: going back and going back there and we'll see what happens.

935
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: And and uh man. I wasn't set up for more

936
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: than minutes, and I saw Spike come out of the

937
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: pines and go up over the uh the lane, and

938
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: he was there's a food plot in the neighbors. I

939
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: was kind of set up between my um, the betting

940
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: on on my property and then the food plot out

941
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: of the the neighbors. Almost in a straight line, and that's

942
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: where that buck was huddled. Um. And a couple of

943
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: minutes later he crunch, crunch, crunch, coming back and the

944
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: other way as I got here, coming back. So I

945
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: scooped him and I look out and I just see times. Um,

946
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: I got up. That's a shooter. And I just kind

947
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: of went into all the pilot mill. I can't even

948
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: tell you that everything. I don't even remember if I

949
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: stopped him or what, but um, he stopped and and

950
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: I shot and hit him, hit him a little back,

951
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: and he kind of bounded into the um kind of

952
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: the first oral pines there and started walking down back

953
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: in my direction and gave me a little spot where

954
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: I could squeeze one more off at him, and and

955
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: I ended up dropping him right there, right in the pines.

956
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: And and uh, I didn't have any blood tracking to do,

957
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: which was nice. So that was that was definitely the high.

958
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: That's the first buck in Michigan I've killed in a

959
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: number of years and by far my best Michigan buck.

960
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 1: And and that, like I said, you can all change

961
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: in a second, and totally changed how my outlook was

962
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: on my season. Yeah. So after so that all happened

963
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: did so. So sometimes after you have like a conclusion

964
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: like that where where the season ends in one way

965
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: or another, um, you're able to see other things that

966
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: led up to that in a different way or more clearly.

967
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: So when you look back on your season now after

968
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: you had that happy ending, um, do you look back

969
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: and say, oh, you know what, I did do some

970
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: things right that I'm proud of or there you know,

971
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: even though it was tough of him that moment, you know,

972
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 1: actually I was doing something that I can learn from. Uh.

973
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm trying to say is when you

974
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: look back in your season, what are you most proud

975
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: of or what can you point to as being like, oh, yeah,

976
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: this was I was doing this right right? Yeah, I think, um, yeah,

977
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: that's a good question. And I thought about that a

978
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: little bit. And you know, not even just this season,

979
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: but like for the last several years, it's kind of

980
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: really like, um, doing the right things and making sure

981
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: that I'm preparing right and all that kind of stuff,

982
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: because it can, you know, it can change in a second.

983
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: And I think in past years and they've been down

984
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: and maybe not just hunting as much, and and um,

985
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: you know, I think The one thing that I did

986
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: do right on that piece was for the most part,

987
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: being somewhat conservative on it and not hunting it in

988
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: bad conditions, not being done with my access, um you know,

989
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: making sure that deer we're still comfortable around there, um,

990
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, not walking all over it and checking jail cameras.

991
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: It's it's so easy to want to go check chail

992
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: trail cameras. But I was very cautious about that, maybe

993
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: too cautious. I wish I would maybe do it a

994
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: little bit more, have a little bit more like you know,

995
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: valuable recent and for um, But I just I haven't

996
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: done that. Um. So I think that's one thing I'm

997
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: very been very smart about limiting my my pressure on

998
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: that property, um to where I haven't ran a bunch

999
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: of deer out of there. Yeah, it certainly seemed to

1000
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: make a difference. I mean, the fact that you still

1001
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: had a bunch of deer they're hanging out there three

1002
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: or four days in the gun season. Uh, that was

1003
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: that was key. That was key, and daylight acted and

1004
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: that were daylight active too. I mean that was like

1005
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: three thirty I think something like that when I shot

1006
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: that deer well before shooting. Like, remember getting the phone

1007
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: call from you. We talked a few hours earlier, and

1008
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: then you're calling me again. It's like four o'clock or

1009
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: something like that, and I'm like, man, he this phone call.

1010
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: I remember seeing the phone and I was like playing

1011
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: with the kids, and I saw the phone call come through,

1012
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,959
Speaker 1: and I thought one or two things. Either number one,

1013
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: he just shot a buck and he's called because he

1014
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: shot a buck, or number two or number two he

1015
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: was so frustrated he decided to call off the hunt

1016
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: completely and turned round. That may have been me in

1017
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: the past, you know that, that may have been what

1018
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: I've done in the past, like screw it, you know,

1019
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going in there. Winds bad and just bailed.

1020
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: But um yeah, I just yeah, it's one of those

1021
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: things where, yeah, I've been smart about it. Maybe that

1022
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: wasn't the smartest spot to be sitting that day with

1023
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: that wind, but I think because I had been smart

1024
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: other times of the year, I think that was that

1025
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: ultimately benefited me for that particular hunt. Yeah, yeah, Sonny,

1026
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: how it all works out sometimes like that. Um yeah, yeah, man,

1027
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: that's awesome. That's uh. That was definitely my That was

1028
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,959
Speaker 1: definitely my high and then I did have another really

1029
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: awesome hunt this past weekend shot. I ended up filling

1030
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: my public land aunt with this tag. Um on a

1031
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: on a fun little hunt with somebody's that we you know,

1032
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: went and bumped around a little bit of a few

1033
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: betting areas and some public and some real marshy stuff.

1034
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: We had eads on. We're we're wading through like waist

1035
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: deep stuff and get into some of these little islands

1036
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: and pockets of bedding and uh it, it it has a

1037
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: lot of fun. We had a we had a blast

1038
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: um and ended up getting lucky and filling my dough

1039
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: tag midday um the last day of muzzle lotter season,

1040
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: So that was a lot of fun. Did anybody else

1041
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: see any deer? Were you the only one to see that?

1042
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: Those are the only that was the only deer we

1043
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: saw the whole day. And it wasn't even any of

1044
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: our group that push that deer. We had just gotten

1045
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: set up and they were taking up we had like

1046
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: a boat and so they took the boat around the

1047
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: other side. There's actually a couple of trappers that pulled

1048
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: up onto this little um marshy area where there were

1049
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: some I think some muskrat dens that they were gonna

1050
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: set some traps on. They started, you know, they got

1051
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: their axes out and hacking down some stuff, and I,

1052
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: I guess there's two. I only saw one, but they

1053
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: popped out right there, and and man, it was crazy

1054
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: to see where they were betted at, Like um you

1055
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: had to have water access to to get in there

1056
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: to see them, and they were sitting there where they

1057
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: could see everything coming in. UM. So it's pretty pretty

1058
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: cool to see where they came from and how they

1059
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: were using that little piece UM at this point in

1060
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: the year when there's been so much pressure on him.

1061
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: Did those trappers did you talk to him afterwards? Did

1062
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: you scare the crap out of him? I probably did.

1063
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 1: I probably didn't scare him, but I knew right where

1064
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: they were and it wasn't it wasn't in their direction,

1065
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: so it all worked out well. But um, we ran

1066
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: into them at the boat launch and and we just

1067
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: kind of told him we're gonna be out there, and

1068
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: they told us the same, and and so they we

1069
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: had just dropped off um myself on one of the

1070
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: other guys, uh, right by them where they were, so

1071
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: they knew we were up in there, So it was.

1072
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: It was all good. But I'm sure they sure they

1073
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: need to check their underwear after that. Yeah, that's awesome,

1074
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: that's we do. It must have been a chore getting

1075
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: her out of there. Do you have to uh float

1076
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: her out in the waiters or just throwing the canoe? No,

1077
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 1: it's actually we Yeah, we put her right in the boat.

1078
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: We killed her in like the edge of the timber

1079
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: in the marsh and and uh just drugger to the

1080
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 1: We could drive the boat right up to that marshy

1081
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: stuff and and loaded her in and and got her

1082
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: out pretty easily. So, um, it was. It was a

1083
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty good set up. But you know, like

1084
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: like you were talking about Whateverett, like, man, haven't now

1085
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,479
Speaker 1: have wade to see a couple of deer? Um, he's

1086
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna love it. Man, he's, Um, I

1087
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: got that doe hanging in the garage right now. And

1088
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: every time someone goes in the garage, dope dope just

1089
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: imitates like that dough and then you know dough and

1090
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: then buck and so he's he's all about it, and

1091
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: he'll touch the deer and check him out, and everything

1092
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: to him right now is no it gets like very

1093
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: animated about it. But like I think a lot of

1094
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: times there's no means yes, and so just no no,

1095
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: no no. He was like you want to touch it? No, no, no,

1096
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: But then he touches it right like so he's just

1097
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: like loving it and and uh yeah he's he's Uh.

1098
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be very much like Everett and

1099
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: wanting to go and track jobs and do all that

1100
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So I'm excited about that. Yeah, it's

1101
00:54:55,320 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: it's the best. It's the best. Oh man. Um, So

1102
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: let's let's wrap up with this. It's New Year's Eve

1103
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: when it's coming out, so let's uh, let's lay out

1104
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: a new Year's resolution for each one of us. You

1105
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: have anything in mind? I had, I had something that

1106
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking about, So maybe I can go first

1107
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: and give you a second. Um. I think for me,

1108
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: my New Year's resolution, UM, is to practice what I preach.

1109
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: This what I preached a lot this year, and that

1110
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: the past couple of years I've been trying to do

1111
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: better at But I think next year is gonna be

1112
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: harder to do. Which is I want to keep up

1113
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: the mentorship. I don't want to be a couple of

1114
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: years and done type of thing. Even though the back

1115
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: forty is gonna be wrapping up next year. UM, I

1116
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: want to make sure to find a way to fit

1117
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: that into my schedule. So gonna hold me accountable next year, Josh,

1118
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: I need to mentor I need a mentor two at

1119
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: least next year, so I know I'm gonna do at

1120
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: least one on the back Ford through the program that

1121
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: we're putting together, but I need to do at least

1122
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: one more at a minimum, if not more. So that's

1123
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: gonna be my years resolution. UM, do that help some

1124
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: more people out share those experiences? UM, I gotta make

1125
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: sure I keep I gotta keep that up. So that's

1126
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: gonna be mine. Um yeah, that's that's that's my goal.

1127
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: I can, I can. I can say that. You know,

1128
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: looking back on this past year. Last year, I think

1129
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: my resolution was to get better at handling um you know,

1130
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: moment of truth shots and then also to become more

1131
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 1: adaptable my hunting style, and and I sort of achieved those.

1132
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: I definitely got way more like adaptable mobile. I if

1133
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm proud of myself or anything this past year, it

1134
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: was that I was more aggressive and mobile and and

1135
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: quick to adapt to change than I've ever been by

1136
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: long shots, So that year or this this year, that's

1137
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: the big thing. I'm proud of, the moment of truth thing.

1138
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 1: I've had my win, I've had my good, my bad.

1139
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: I missed tran, but I got a good shot with

1140
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: my boat the drop time back on the back forty um,

1141
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: and then killed two deer with my gun now um,

1142
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,479
Speaker 1: which both went pretty decent. So um So I'm gonna

1143
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: give myself a B on that and an A on

1144
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: being adaptable, and I need to get an A plus

1145
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: on mentorship next year. That's that's my end of year

1146
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: assessment there. What do you got? Yeah, a couple a

1147
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: couple of resolutions for I've got a few things I

1148
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: want to make sure I do. One similar to you

1149
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: is keep up the mentorship. Um. I want to make

1150
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: sure I'm getting people out. I've taken several people out

1151
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years through our programs, and

1152
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: I actually have not set with anybody who's kill a

1153
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: deer yet. So I'd really like to um get a

1154
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: hunter their first year, UM being their personal mentor so

1155
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: that that would be awesome. UM. So I need to

1156
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: to make sure I'm doing the things I need to

1157
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: do there to make that happen. UM too, I need

1158
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: to get my mental game right with my bow. Um

1159
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: whether that's changing some uh maybe it's a release, maybe

1160
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: it's um some other aspect of my shooting. I need.

1161
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: I need to get that figured out and really dive

1162
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: into that and see what's going on there. UM. And

1163
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: number three, I'd like to I'd like to kind of

1164
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: force myself to to maybe make a few um, kind

1165
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: of put together a little bit more of a of

1166
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: a habitat plan for um, this little chunk of property

1167
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: that I hunt, that little forty acres the landowner has

1168
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: that I can do some some minor improvements to us.

1169
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: So I'd like to um kind of challenge myself to

1170
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: think outside of the box. They're and not really having

1171
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: a ton of tools at my disposal of in terms

1172
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: of like equipment and stuff like that, but using the chain,

1173
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: so I'll use use some hand spreaders, UM, do a

1174
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: little bit of a maybe a small food plot, carbon

1175
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: a small food plot, or or do some sort of

1176
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: habitat improvement project down um at that place and make

1177
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: it a little bit better. Um. I'm have a test

1178
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: side of things. Nice. I love it, so yeah, you

1179
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: got your you get your work cut out for you, buddy.

1180
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: I do, I do, I do. Well, that's what the

1181
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: end of the year is all about, is uh, setting

1182
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: setting high hope so the next year and then very

1183
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: quickly failing, right, get kicked off and right away I'll

1184
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: screw it up somehow. Yeah, exactly. Need I need to

1185
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: write those things down now and put them like I'm

1186
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: a computer or something like a sticky note on a computer.

1187
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: Some seen it every day, so I don't let myself

1188
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: fail on them. Yeah, that's a very good point, man.

1189
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's let's wrap this up so people

1190
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: can get to their New Year's Eve festivities and send

1191
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: the year out hopefully on a really high note. Um,

1192
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: it's good to end the year with you, buddy, it's

1193
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: good to begin it. It's good to end it. And

1194
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: uh and let's uh, let's hope is uh better for

1195
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: a number of reasons for for everyone, So hopefully hopefully

1196
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: we get the year started off good. Agree with that,

1197
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: thanks man, Yeah, thanks for having appreciate it, all right,

1198
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: and now we're gonna hop over to my conversation with

1199
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: Luke Torkleson over at WEATHERB talking late season firearms all

1200
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: right with me. Now on the line is Luke Torkleson. Luke,

1201
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Hey, thanks glad to be here. Mark,

1202
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad you are to this is uh, this is

1203
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: that time of year when a lot of people are

1204
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: are busting out the rifuler shotgun or whatever it might

1205
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: be in their state and area and heading out for

1206
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: some fun late season hunts, you know, around the holidays.

1207
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: I know, for me, this is my favorite time of

1208
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: year to fill dough tags. So it seemed like we

1209
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: really need to get an expert on that kind of

1210
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: stuff on here. So so thanks for making this happen

1211
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: so close to the holidays too. I know it's a

1212
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: busy time of year for you. It is a busy

1213
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: time of year. It's a it's a crazy busy time

1214
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 1: generally for the firearms industry, but especially in this crazy year.

1215
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: So I'm happy to be on with you though. Yeah. Yeah,

1216
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: that's that's for sure. So real quick, before we dive

1217
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: into some of the kind of the information piece of this,

1218
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: can you just give us a little background as far

1219
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: as your story. You know, how you got to do

1220
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: and what you're doing within the firearm industry and what

1221
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: exactly you do now today? Yeah, great question. I'll probably

1222
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: start with where I'm at and work backwards a little bit.

1223
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: But UM, I'm the vice president of sales, Marketing and

1224
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: product development and that also entails customer service here at

1225
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: Weatherby and UM I've been here about two and a

1226
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: half years, UM with super fortunate to get to move

1227
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: to the great state of Shridan, Wyoming. UM. If you

1228
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: don't know, UM whether we moved to hear it and

1229
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: uh they announced their move at the beginning of two

1230
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen. UM as one of the first part of

1231
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 1: the new team hired. And we've built a new team

1232
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: here and shared in from about eighteen team members that

1233
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: moved with company from California to share it in and

1234
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: we're about a hundred strong now. And uh. Then it's

1235
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: been a crazy wild ride. But UM my foray into

1236
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: the outdoor industry started uh quite a few years ago,

1237
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: UM with Coleman the outdoor Company. UM I came up

1238
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: through the product management product development side of things and

1239
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: originally was in the construction products industry. And I just

1240
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: always loved being outside. I actually didn't grow up hunting.

1241
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: I just always had been a gear head. UM I

1242
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: grew up outside and college as a whitewater rafting guide

1243
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: and just love being outdoors and really hunting became more

1244
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: of a passion just to spend more time outside. Really

1245
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: decided I wanted to work in an industry where I

1246
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: was able to play, and uh I got into Coleman

1247
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: the Outdoor Company. Went from Coleman to Bear Archery, Bear

1248
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: Archery to Walter Arms, and now Walter to Weatherby, and

1249
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: uh man, I feel like I'm home here in Wyoming

1250
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: and with Weatherby, it's been awesome. Yeah, it seems like

1251
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: at least from every dancing social media you have made

1252
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: up for lost time when it comes to hunting with

1253
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: a whole lot of pretty uh pretty awesome hunting adventures.

1254
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: It looks like over recent years, huh I have. I

1255
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: I've been crazy fortunate. This year has been one for

1256
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: the record books for me personally. I've never been to

1257
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: Alaska before and got to go twice this year. I

1258
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: got to do a e I y caribou hunt up

1259
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: on the North Slope and then went back months later

1260
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: on a moose hunt um and was able to score

1261
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: both times. And just yeah, and it just that was

1262
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: getting just getting started for the season. Able to feel

1263
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: pretty much all my tags in Wyoming this year and

1264
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: a couple of other states as well. So no complaints

1265
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: this year, that's for sure. Yeah. The hunting, uh for

1266
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: for those of us who had good seasons, it made

1267
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: up for a weird and a lot of other ways.

1268
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: So uh, what about the what about the white tail

1269
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: side of things out there? By you guys? I know, um,

1270
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: I know that there's actually some pretty good deer in

1271
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: that neck of the woods, isn't that the case? Yeah,

1272
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: maybe not compared to some of the Midwest white tails,

1273
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: but um, I think that there are some pretty good

1274
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: to you here. I think the best deer shot this

1275
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: year that that we know about. I actually just got

1276
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: the Wyoming um Outfitters Journal yesterday, and I believe the

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01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: best white tail shot in the state this year was

1278
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: like a one seventy. Nice. It's a good buck, a

1279
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: great luck. I think thrilled the shoot of one seventies

1280
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: most would, um, but right here where we're at and

1281
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: shared in um, if you if you see a one fifty,

1282
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: you better you better be pumped to pull the figure

1283
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: right away. Um, we've got We're we're right on the

1284
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: edge of white tails really being a problem here because

1285
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: of the mule deer population. That's why everybody wants to

1286
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: see thrive. And as you know, the white tail are

1287
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: quite a bit more aggressive and prolific than the mule deer.

1288
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: And so we've got we've got some private land here

1289
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: that if you drive out on some roads any given

1290
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 1: evening you could see it's it's not an overestimate state.

1291
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: You could see thousands of white tailed deer in an

1292
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: evening on the field like it's it's ridiculous. So, um,

1293
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: we've kind of got an issue with private land versus

1294
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: public land and access uh and and how that all

1295
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: works out. But man, there's there's tons of deer. There's

1296
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: almost too many white tails. It's it's becoming an issue

1297
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: for sure. C w D is creeping into and it's

1298
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: it's problematic. Yeah, that's a good point. I was about

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01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: to make light of it and talk about how I

1300
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind that that many deer, But but you're right

1301
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: for in a more serious note that the yes, there

1302
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: are some serious management disease implications. So I guess that

1303
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: the point being that I probably needed other and help

1304
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: out and try to call some of the population. No

1305
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: doubt that buck hunting can be a little bit tricky

1306
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: because they like to hang out in the flattery areas

1307
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: for whitetail anyway, where where it's a lot of private land.

1308
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: But after buck season's over, it's pretty easy to get

1309
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: permission if you're just on a meat hunt. I want

1310
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: to go shoot some doughs, and it's pretty easy to

1311
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: get access for for for dope patrol, Yeah, which is

1312
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: which is a whole lot of fun. That's that's exactly

1313
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: what I'm on right now here in Michigan. It's still patrol.

1314
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: And and put my first one down a couple of

1315
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: nights ago, and I guess it's it's got me thinking

1316
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: about this whole topic that I wanted to bring up

1317
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: with you, which was late season firearm hunting. Um, you know,

1318
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: I've I've I've done it with rifles and muzzleloaders and

1319
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: shotguns and everything in between. And regardless, it just seems

1320
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: like things seem to go haywire on occasion when stuff

1321
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: is really cool or when it's yeah, just inclement weather, snow,

1322
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: when frigid temperatures. It just seems like these variables can

1323
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: can throw off a hunt and nobody wants this thing

1324
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: they've worked all year towards to then get botched because

1325
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: of some weird equipment issue or something they hadn't thought

1326
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: about as far as how weather or or whatever could

1327
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: impact things. So I was just kind of curious if

1328
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: this is something that you or anyone at weather be has,

1329
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, spent some time thinking about as far as

1330
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: special considerations to think about at this time of the year,

1331
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: whether it be in that you know, zero degree, whether

1332
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: or whether it be in really windy blizzards, or anything

1333
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: that jumps to mind that you guys think about as

1334
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: far as that kind of situation when you're out there

1335
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: with a gun. Yeah, there's a couple of things. So

1336
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: I think there's actually two parts to it. There's UM

1337
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: in the field and then after, and I think they're

1338
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: they're both important. UM, especially after if you're in UM

1339
01:07:54,840 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: wind driven rain or or heavy snow, Potentially I get

1340
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: water into places in your in your rifle that it's

1341
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: not been before, and it's going to require a lot

1342
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: more meticulous cleaning, even if it's a stero coated You

1343
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: know that we were like man Sarracoa's great corrosion protection,

1344
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: but man, even when you're applying seracode. At the manufacturing

1345
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: level it is it can be tough to get it

1346
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: in the smallest nooks and cranny inside the trigger group

1347
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 1: and all that. And when you start getting forced elements

1348
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: in there where they don't belong and you you put

1349
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: a gun away, or even worse, you you leave it

1350
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: in a soft gun bags, like in your car for

1351
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,879
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. UM you're asking for some corrosion

1352
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: problems in the field. UM. I think that just taking

1353
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: an extra level of precaution around how you're carrying your gun,

1354
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: UM goes a really long way. Uh. We do a

1355
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: lot of back country hunting here in Wyoming in the

1356
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: Midwest that might look a little different, but um Man,

1357
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: just trying to cover up as much as you can.

1358
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: Most people want to cover their scope obviously, but if

1359
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: you can cover up the action area and and you're trigger,

1360
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: I mean where the trigger shoe comes out of the action,

1361
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: there's generally a pretty big gap in every rifle on

1362
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: the market. UM. And if you get junk in there,

1363
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: even just moisture, you may not have the desired effect

1364
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: or the normal trigger feel that you're used to. UM.

1365
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 1: I have one freeze up on me A couple of

1366
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: years ago where I was crossing a creek and I

1367
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: kind of took a stumble and splashed some water up.

1368
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: Didn't think anything of it, but then that water froze

1369
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: and actually didn't get up in my trigger group. But

1370
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: just like the way I was holding the rifle, the

1371
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: water hit the trigger. It's just like perfectly unfortunate. But

1372
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: the drip, imagine the rifle be in vertical and then

1373
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,799
Speaker 1: water dripping off the back of the trigger, and it's

1374
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: it's like blocked. It froze and then blocked the trigger

1375
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: from being able to pull back far enough to actually

1376
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: break this fear, and so it almost rendered the rifle

1377
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: and nert And so you just gotta be extra careful.

1378
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: I think on how you're carrying your gun is really important.

1379
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: M what about the the muzzle, the opening at the

1380
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: end of the barrel itself. A lot of people will

1381
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 1: put tape over the end of the muzzle. Is that

1382
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: something that you think is worth doing or is there

1383
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: any worry with how that might impact anything downrange? I

1384
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: am a big fan of covering the muzzle. Um, I

1385
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: think it should be done. I do it no matter

1386
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,839
Speaker 1: the weather. Again, that country hunting, whether it's pine needles

1387
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: or whatever else that might get in there. But if

1388
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: you get moisture in there, water water doesn't compress, So

1389
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: if you get enough moisture inside the barrel, you it

1390
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: could get dangerous. Number one. But number two, even if

1391
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 1: it's not an actual safety concern, um, it could affect

1392
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: how your bullets traveling, and so keeping keeping your bore

1393
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: free of obstruction is is I think it's paramount, so

1394
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: speaking about you know, shooting in those situations, so keeping

1395
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 1: them clean that makes sense, keeping anything from getting down there.

1396
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: What about the impact of cold temperatures on ballistics or

1397
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: the impact on a bullet I've read I don't know

1398
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: much about this stuff myself, but I've read and seen

1399
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: some things about how ultra cold weather supposed we can

1400
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: have some impacts on that. Is that something that your

1401
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: average hunter needs to think about when it comes to

1402
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: this kind of thing. I think every rifle is a

1403
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:41,520
Speaker 1: little different. Um, how how you're done reacts to temperature

1404
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: is probably best not left to chance, right, So it

1405
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: may not be possible, but if it is possible, I

1406
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: think it's a great idea to experiment in different temperatures. UM.

1407
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: If a if a massive cold front. First one of

1408
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: the season is moving through and you haven't had a

1409
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: chance to go mess with your particular rifle. UM, I

1410
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: think you need to be aware of your shot distance.

1411
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: I think out to a hundred yards you're probably not

1412
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: going to see a massive variation. But if you're talking

1413
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: about shots from a hundred to three and beyond, then

1414
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: I think you really need to understand what what's happening

1415
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: with your particular firearm. UM. Even gun to gun, same model,

1416
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: you could see a slight variation. Every every barrel is different.

1417
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of science behind it, but I'd like

1418
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 1: to say there's a lot of voodoo too, And I

1419
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: don't think even the best ballistic expert can understand the

1420
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 1: exact voodoo. Why one barrel that's come off the exact

1421
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 1: same production line, the exact same rifling, everything is the same,

1422
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 1: may may react completely different. It's wild. So if given

1423
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 1: the opportunity to um shoot or or test your your

1424
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: weapon in a sub zero environment, it's not fun, but

1425
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: head to the range if you can, and to just

1426
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: see what's happening. UM. I think it's I think it's

1427
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: wise to do that, especially if you're you're chasing out

1428
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: big buck and you don't want to leave anything to chance, right, No, no,

1429
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 1: you don't. You definitely don't want that to be the

1430
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: thing that ruins the hunting there at the end. That's

1431
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: for sure. Now, what about another thing that might come

1432
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: up at this time of year, which is, you know,

1433
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: when you get that nasty cold coming through, it's it's

1434
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: usually paired with a storm. So you've got the snow

1435
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 1: blowing and you've got some significant wind. Maybe yeah, but

1436
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: you're a trooper and you're still out there, Uh what

1437
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: what speed wind? Do you start worrying about wind deflection?

1438
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: And or what distances as far as your target being?

1439
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: Do you worry about that at a hundred fifty yards

1440
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: or how many? That's so I almost would say that's

1441
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: the how long is a piece of string? Question, which

1442
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: is like, you got it. You need so many more

1443
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: inputs to solve that blistic solution. I mean, are we

1444
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: talking about like a three fifty legend where you're sending

1445
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 1: a pretty low BC bullet at a at a at

1446
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: a low velocity, then you're going to see substantial wind

1447
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: variation versus like a weather b If you're shooting our

1448
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: six three hundred with a HIGHBC hundred and forty grain

1449
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: bullet at almost per second, I would say, yeah, don't

1450
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: don't worry about wind out to two yards almost no

1451
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: matter what it's blowing. Um But if you're if you're

1452
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: using a bigger, slower bullet, for sure you can see

1453
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: some deflection um even at a hundred yards. Hopefully not

1454
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: enough that it's going to affect hitting the kill zone

1455
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 1: at a hundred yards, but um man, anything's possible depending

1456
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:40,879
Speaker 1: on how stiff that wind is. And really the blistic

1457
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: coefficient of the bullet and and the velocity I think

1458
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: are the two most important factors there. So so really

1459
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: knowing your rifle and knowing your what you're what you're

1460
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 1: putting through it, and exactly how it's going to react.

1461
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, so much this comes down

1462
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,919
Speaker 1: to the specifics that something that I'm lt I sometimes

1463
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: is wanting to stick too simple and not dive into

1464
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: the details when it comes to firearms though, and really

1465
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: getting the very most out of out of your cartridge

1466
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 1: and your and your rifle that's you need, you really

1467
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: should go deep into it. Yeah. I am not a

1468
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: professional sniper by any stress of the imagination, um, but

1469
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: I do recommend to people that I think it's good

1470
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: to to train or practice at at nearly double the

1471
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 1: distance that you're comfortable harvesting an animal at. So if

1472
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: if you're only gonna feel comfortable shooting to three yards,

1473
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: I want to be or have the guy I'm hunting with,

1474
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: I want them shooting at six and understanding what what

1475
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: they're guns doing at six yards because it just completely

1476
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: increases the confidence that you're going to have a three D. Yeah, yeah,

1477
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: that makes this makes a lot of sense. And the

1478
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: same same principle, same theory applies to bow hunting lots

1479
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: of times, right you if you want to shoot a

1480
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: deer at forty yards, you better be practiced at sixty yards,

1481
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: and then that forty yard shot is a piece of cake.

1482
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: Exactly the same obviously magnified greatly by by archery, but

1483
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,959
Speaker 1: exactly the same principle for sure. Yeah, that that training

1484
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: and pushing yourself in training just it's it's never a

1485
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: bad idea, it's never it's never gonna hurt you in

1486
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 1: the long run. Um okay, So, so, cold temperatures and

1487
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: winds certainly can impact you depending on your setup, even

1488
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: when you're hunting in white tail country, shooting a hundred

1489
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: yard shots or two hundred yard shots. But what you

1490
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: alluded to this in the beginning, but a lot of

1491
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: a lot of making sure your gears and working order

1492
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: is taking care of it afterwards. Um you mentioned, you know,

1493
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: don't put it in a soft case and leaving your

1494
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: truck for two weeks or something like that. What are

1495
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: the what are the things that somebody should do immediately

1496
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: like that they come in from the hunt and before

1497
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: they put it in the truck or the house or

1498
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: the case or whatever. It is. It as simple as

1499
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: just just wipe it down with a dry rag or

1500
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,799
Speaker 1: is there anything else on there? Do this immediately checklist

1501
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 1: when they're coming in after a cold, snowy day. Yeah, definitely.

1502
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 1: It depends on the rifle. Again, if if it's a

1503
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: stainless steel rifle, or if it's Sara coated, or if

1504
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: it's carbon steel that's been blued. Um, it all looks

1505
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: a little bit differently, but I think at the core

1506
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: it depends on the conditions. If you were out and

1507
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,919
Speaker 1: it was um when they and any form of moisture,

1508
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: snow or rain, you need to get the bolt out

1509
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: and do your absolute best too at a minimum, clean

1510
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: throughout that action the best that you can and apply

1511
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 1: some oil so that there's some protection there. I like

1512
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 1: to leave mine out for a little while before I

1513
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: do that, so that any moisture that was in there

1514
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: can dry a little bit um and then go through

1515
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: the cleaning process. You're not going to get a lot

1516
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: of oxidation in just a few minutes. We're the super

1517
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: dry climate here in Wyoming, so keep that in mind.

1518
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: If you're down in Louisiana and you're like humidity, it's

1519
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: probably not going to dry and you need to You

1520
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: need to take a little extra steps to get every

1521
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: bit of water out of that action area that you can.

1522
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean the way that the lugs of every rifle

1523
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: are gonna fit, with the mating lugs, with the barrel

1524
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 1: or the action. You have got to make sure that

1525
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: you get all the water out of there or you're

1526
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: gonna run into problems down the road. Um, and then

1527
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: the board I think is super important. If you hadn't

1528
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: protected the muzzle end and you get any moisture down there.

1529
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: Even on most serracoated rifles, there's still gonna be a

1530
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: carbon steel barrel. There's no stereocoat inside the actual bore

1531
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: of the rifle. You need to be running some rods

1532
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: through there with with a patch with that's got some

1533
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,520
Speaker 1: protectible oil on there, or you're gonna build up some

1534
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: some corrosion that's going to affect your bullet performance down

1535
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: the road. Putting the gun away dry is critical. If

1536
01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 1: you don't do that, you're asking yourself for problems. Yeah,

1537
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: Now what about going from different temperature zones? So by that,

1538
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean you're outside hunting it's freezing cold, and then

1539
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: what if you were to bring it inside the house

1540
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: where it's warm, and then I I you worry about

1541
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 1: condensation and stuff like that. Do you recommend anything around that.

1542
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: Should you leave it outside for a while, Should you

1543
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: bring it in and then wait an hour and then

1544
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 1: dry off and everything? That? Is that something you think about.

1545
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: I like to bring my gun inside and then you know,

1546
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: take care of my other stuff first, um, whether if

1547
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: there's meat involved or clothes, whatever, try to get that

1548
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 1: stuff taken care of. It would be a pretty extreme

1549
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: instance that condensation is gonna build up on your on

1550
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: your gun like it would on a on your your

1551
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: coker beer can, Right, But if it was in the

1552
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: bed of your truck and it's sub zero and you

1553
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: come in and it's seventy degrees and you've got the

1554
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: fireplace going. Yeah, it's possible, especially if it's in a

1555
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: soft case. Um. It seems to we get most of

1556
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: our service call are on rifles that have been blued

1557
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 1: that gets stored in the soft case where they come

1558
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: back in any bit of moisture just kind of it's

1559
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: like it's like wapping, wrapping your barrel and a wet rag.

1560
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: It's like it's just it makes it worse, and you

1561
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: get these oxidation issues in a beautiful blued rifle. It's

1562
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: it's brutal. So I to get it out of the

1563
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: stop case as quick as you can, if there's any

1564
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: way to get some air circulation on it to bring

1565
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: it up to kind of room timp then clean it

1566
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: and then store it. Okay, that that makes a lot

1567
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: of sense. And then I guess the final thing then

1568
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 1: is we're doing that. We've we've filled their dough tags

1569
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 1: or a last buck tag. We've put a couple of

1570
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 1: deer in the freezer. The season ends, I know a

1571
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 1: lot of folks will just shelf the gun. I've been

1572
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: guilty of this in past years. I shelf it, and

1573
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: then I kind of forget about it because I've moved

1574
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: on to all these other things. And then six months

1575
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: passes by or ten months passes by, and then it's

1576
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: September and I'm thinking, I got a gun hunt coming

1577
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 1: up soon. I better get that out. And then I

1578
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: realized that I didn't do my end of your maintenance

1579
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: on it, or I didn't do something quite right, and

1580
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: there's there's some rust or or something goes wrong. I

1581
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: am guilty of that, I admit it, and I hate

1582
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: myself for that. Um, can you walk me through what

1583
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:18,879
Speaker 1: the correct postseason process would be as far as cleaning, storage,

1584
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: any maintenance related thing to make sure that we are

1585
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: doing this one right. If so, I would just say,

1586
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: there's a precursor to this question. If the last shot

1587
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: that you fired hit where you wanted it to hit them,

1588
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: in your confident and you're set up, then then go

1589
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: through just like I said before, get everything dried up,

1590
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: cleaned up, and then I'd say, apply a pretty liberal

1591
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: amount of oil into the bore of the barrel or

1592
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: on a pat or two through there so it's got

1593
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: a protective coating. Be a little more liberal in that

1594
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 1: bolt and um action mating surfaces so that you're good.

1595
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: You can store that thing for years if need be. Now,

1596
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: if you weren't confident in the last trigger, poole, if

1597
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: the bullet was like, man, I don't know that that

1598
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: impacted where it was supposed to impact. I recommend you

1599
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: go and get that sorted before you put the gun

1600
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: away for the season, because you don't know. If you

1601
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: hopefully you remember to get your gun out before next season,

1602
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: then and get it dialed again. But I like to

1603
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: put it away with confidence so that if a buddy calls, like, man,

1604
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 1: I'm having a coyote problem, you want to come toot

1605
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: so kyotes with me, Like, I don't have to worry

1606
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 1: about anything, Like I know, I'm confident in the condition

1607
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: of the gun when it's put away. Yeah, that's that's

1608
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: a good forward thinking move that I will aspire to

1609
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: be on top of it as well as you are, Luke,

1610
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 1: I to like that. That's that's good. Um okay, So

1611
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 1: get it all taken care of in that kind of way,

1612
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: and then um put it in the safe and and

1613
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: call it good. Huh. That's it. Yeah, I like said,

1614
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: I like to know the condition of every firearm that

1615
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: I've got so that they're we're talking about uh when

1616
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: it hits the fan type of moment, or if we're

1617
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 1: talking about UM, an impromptu hunt or opportunity to go

1618
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: to a shoot that I know with be on the

1619
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: shadow of a doubt that I have to pick up

1620
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 1: in your rifle in my safe and it's dialed and

1621
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 1: ready to roll, and the next time I pull a trigger,

1622
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 1: I know where that bullets going to go. I think

1623
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,480
Speaker 1: that's I think that's important. Yeah, well, you know it's

1624
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: It's so in line with almost everything else with deer hunting.

1625
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: It comes down to the details and executing on all

1626
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: the little things you know you need to do. And

1627
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 1: if you pay attention to those little things and you

1628
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: follow through on them, whether it be properly taking care

1629
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: of the gun while you're out there in the field,

1630
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: or maintaining it afterwards, or double checking your zero before

1631
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: the end of the year, all that stuff adds up.

1632
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: When you allude to the beginning, there's a lot of

1633
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: stuff we can control. So if this is one thing

1634
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: we can you gotta you gotta check that box. You

1635
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 1: have to. I think having confidence in your tools, all

1636
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: of them is just so critical. I did one hunt

1637
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 1: this year, UM where I took a gun that I

1638
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: hadn't had a lot of trigger time, and I had

1639
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 1: a good buck just passed what I was comfortable with

1640
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: with that rifle because I I wasn't a thousand percent

1641
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: confident in my setup. It was, you know, as a

1642
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: as a marketing side at whether it be I get

1643
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: to do some cool events and I was invited on

1644
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: this hunt. I had to take a firearm that I

1645
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: hadn't hunted with yet and with a round I wasn't

1646
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: familiar with, and I got a little bit of arranged time,

1647
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: but I didn't have it dialed. If I had had

1648
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 1: a gun I'd been hunting with all season with me,

1649
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 1: I would have shot a better buck than ended up

1650
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 1: shooting because I just wasn't confident to pull the trigger

1651
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: at the distance when I encountered this this great white tail.

1652
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 1: I still got a good one, but it just it

1653
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 1: bothered me so much that I wasn't a thousand percent

1654
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: confident in my setup that UM, I was like, I'm

1655
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 1: not doing it like this again. I've got to make

1656
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: sure that I'm full confident in the tool that I have.

1657
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: Because everything else worked out, I could have executed in

1658
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: my shooting ability, but I wasn't competent in my tool

1659
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: and that just hurked me to no end. Yeah yeah,

1660
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 1: that uh that one will linger, I know how that is. Well, look,

1661
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 1: this is this is really this is really helpful stuff

1662
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: and in a perfect way for us to wrap up

1663
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: the year. I think there's there's a lot of people

1664
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: that will be putting this kind of stuff into play

1665
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: over the next few weeks, So so thank you for that.

1666
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 1: And if people want to either follo along with anything

1667
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: you've got going on, or whether it be in general,

1668
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: is there anyone online they can connect or or learn

1669
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 1: more you bet um, whether it be inc on Instagram,

1670
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: whether be dot com, personally um Luke Torque on Instagram,

1671
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: and um yeah, we're happy to have people come and

1672
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 1: follow and and see what we've got going on. I

1673
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: think I think as whether be we do a pretty

1674
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: good job with a personal connection to the brand. Adam

1675
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: weather be Um respond to a ton of our Instagram

1676
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: messages and if you've got any questions messages there, send

1677
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: us an email to marketing at Weatherby dot com. Whatever

1678
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,759
Speaker 1: we can do, We're we're accessible and try to respond

1679
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 1: to everyone. That's awesome. I'll add another plug. Adam was

1680
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: on one of the recent seasons of the Mediator TV show,

1681
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: and my my two year old has been really into

1682
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 1: watching Mediator on Netflix over the last couple of months,

1683
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: and that episode the Adam was on. The mule deer

1684
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: hunt is one of his favorites. So we frequently will

1685
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: try to play out that hunt and Adam seeing that

1686
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: buck and going in after him, and so my son

1687
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 1: effort will go running down the hill and then get

1688
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 1: his gun, his fake gun up and then said, I

1689
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: see antlers. I see antlers, So go go watch that one.

1690
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: That is a good one. That was the two parter too,

1691
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: I think I remember right, and it ends in a

1692
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 1: crazy fashion with a bit of a old fashioned drive. Yeah. Yeah,

1693
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: they made They made for some interesting, uh some interesting hunts.

1694
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 1: The that always it's always an adventure of with Steve

1695
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 1: and Joanny and crew, so uh it it worked out

1696
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: well for him. They put some nice bucks on your ound,

1697
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: no doubt. And I was pretty fortunate back in October

1698
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: to have Steve and Yanni host them down here in

1699
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: Wyoming on an antelope hunt with surprise guest Luke Holmbs,

1700
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: which was which was an amazing experience, really cool trip. Yeah,

1701
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: I've heard from at least Yanna, So that was a

1702
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 1: really good time. Do you guys had an enjoyable hunt

1703
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: and successful hunt? It looked like, yeah we did, and

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01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: I believe that will be on the next next year's

1705
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: uh Netflix episodes, But we we did. We had a blast.

1706
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: Luke Holmbs was awesome, better than expect. You never know

1707
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get with some of those you know,

1708
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: quote unful celebrities, right, but yeah, he was about as

1709
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: normal a guy as you could get. Um that has

1710
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: a fleet of tour buses, you know what I mean,

1711
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 1: Like you said, that could be you just never quite

1712
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: know where that could go. So I'm glad it worked out.

1713
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: I was talking to I remember sitting in the grocery

1714
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: store parking lot talking to you honest on the phone

1715
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: just before that hunt, and he expressed the same thing

1716
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: as like, you know, I hope this works out, but

1717
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: you just you just don't know. Yeah, we're gonna write

1718
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 1: it out and see what happens. It's good. All right. Well,

1719
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: look I'll let you get back to all the end

1720
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: of year craziness, but thank you again, and uh, I

1721
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: hope one of these days I'll make it out there

1722
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 1: to Wyoming and see the see the headquarters and everything,

1723
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 1: because i've heard it's pretty incredible. Thanks Mark, You're welcome anytime. Alright,

1724
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: and that's a rap. Thank you again for tuning in.

1725
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed this one. A little bit of story time,

1726
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,839
Speaker 1: a little bit of info. I like that mix. That's uh,

1727
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 1: that's usually kind of makes me try to hit. We

1728
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 1: just took two different people to do it today. But

1729
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed it. Have a great New Year's Eve,

1730
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: New Year's Day, the first couple of weeks of the year,

1731
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. Thanks for tuning, and until next time,

1732
01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: stay wired to hunt. W do you that