1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: From the NFL Scott in Combine and Indianapolis. Our coverage 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 1: continues on Jaguars dot Com. JP Shadrick with Greg Cosell, 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: NFL Film Senior Producer, NFL Matchup Executive Producer. And here 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: we are back another Combine. Jaguars though have at least 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: from the last couple of years, a different field coming 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: into this one, picking with the twenty fourth selection overall 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: in the first round. So that approach just changes the 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: whole mindset of the organization. Some success. The challenge now 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: is building it for the future to maintain it and 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: sustain that success. A little different conversation JP, from maybe 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: a year ago or a couple of years ago. So yeah, no, 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it starts with Doug Peterson and the staff, 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: and then it works to Trevor Lawrence. You know, I 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: learned years and years ago from Dick Vermeil, and he 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: said that when you draft a quarterback number one, the 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: entire organization, and he's talking about the janitors, he's talking 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: about everybody in the organization, the objective has to be 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: to that guy a great player. And clearly that was 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: the approach they took this year. Unfortunately for Trevor Lawrence. 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: People talked about him as a generational talent when he 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: came out, and that put an unfair burden on him 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: because he's not. Really There's very few generational talents, as 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: you know. And then they saw what he was and 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: they worked with him and they did some really good 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: things with him that help he needed to be sped up. 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: He was very deliberate and everything he did. He's a 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: big kid who's a long strider, so you need to 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 1: shorten his strides, you need to quicken his job, quicken 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: his set, quick in his delivery, and when you combine 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: that with the nature of the offense, which is more 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: quick rhythm throws, that had to all work together. And 32 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: they did a masterful job with that. And Lawrence was 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: obviously a very willing student. And you know the thing 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence that also works with all this is 35 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: Lawrence is very good at picking up concepts, and that's 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: really important. He's the kind of kid you can go 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: through concepts with him and he picks it up quickly 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: and then he understands it, and then you can build 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: off those concepts. Because the past game is about concepts, 40 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: you get to the concepts in different ways, different personnel packages, 41 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: different formations, but it's about the concepts and he's very good, 42 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: very smart at picking that up and then taking it 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: to the field. So it was a really good mix 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: of coaching staff and quarterback. And obviously we know that 45 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: if your quarterback plays at a high level and you 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: have a good one, your chance of winning games improves dramatically. 47 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: And that's basically what happened in Jacksonville on that side 48 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: of the ball. Clearly you talked about coaching staff around him. 49 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: So yes, Doug Peterson, Press Taylor comes in as the OC, 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter was the passing game coordinator now and 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: end us the OC. Mike McCoy's a quarterbacks coach. I mean, 52 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: these guys have all had a history in the NFL 53 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: around big time quarterback play. But Trevor likes a certain 54 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: type of mentality around him too, and they realized that 55 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: when they were building that staff. Calm even keeled, not 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: a big deal. We're gonna work on it next week, 57 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: get it right down the road. Having that staff around 58 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: Trevor priority number one. For Doug Peterson. It felt like 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: he hit it out of the park in year one, 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: and he did. And I think you have to understand 61 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: your quarterback's personality and the way he likes to learn 62 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: and how he deals with adversity, because clearly you know 63 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: one of the things about Trevor Lawrence and I've been 64 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: around him, but I don't know him, but I've been 65 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: around him, and he's a very impressive kid, as you know. 66 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: But he's also a kid that seems when you see 67 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: him in a press conference, like after the losses, after 68 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: he threw a bad pick, very levelheaded, very even keeled, 69 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously extremely disappointed, but not flying off the handle, 70 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: understanding that, hey, I have to work, I have to 71 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: be better. My guess is he doesn't mind to be 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: coached hard, that he wants that, that he wants to 73 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: be coached, But then you have to understand how to 74 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: coach him. And you mentioned Mike McCoy. Been in the 75 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: league a long long time. You know, he's seen a 76 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: lot of backs, been through a lot of systems, understands 77 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: that Jim Bob Cooter is someone I know. He did 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: an unbelievably great job. People may not remember with Matthew 79 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: Stafford in twenty sixteen through twenty eighteen with the Lions. 80 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: Then he spent a year with the Eagles as well, 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: so he's you know, he's seen good coaching staffs, he's 82 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: seen good quarterback play. He's another guy that's pretty even killed. 83 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: You know, Press Taylor obviously was with Doug in Philly, 84 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: so he knows doug system and how he wants it 85 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: to be taught and related to the quarterback. So I 86 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: think they had a really good mix of people, and 87 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: they have a quarterback that's very willing to learn. And 88 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, Trevor Lawrence this offseason in his mind and 89 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: particularly in the AFC where there's a lot of good quarterbacks, 90 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: he wants to be in that group, and he wants 91 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: the Jaguars to be one of those teams like Buffalo, 92 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: like Cincinnati, like Kansas City that's in the playoffs every 93 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: single year and gives you a chance to get to 94 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: a super Bowl. Great Cosell with us. You know, it 95 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: was about week eight. It was Week eight, Jaguars were 96 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: in London. He throws a first and goal interception at 97 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: the one against Denver at Wembley, and it was supposed 98 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: to be a quick out, quick release or throw it 99 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: in the stands, and he decided to roll right, roll right, 100 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: roll right, and throw it into a window with three 101 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: defenders there, second time in three weeks he had done 102 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: something similar to that. It was at that point he 103 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: said that, you know what, I've got to just stop 104 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: hurting the football team with these bad mistakes. After that 105 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: he settled in. Was there anything mechanically different at the 106 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: back half of the season or is that really just 107 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: an above the shoulders mentality for Trevor that really turned 108 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: things around for him. My guess is it's more and 109 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: above the shoulders. I mean, I thought early in the 110 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: season we saw the fundamental technique differences that I mentioned. 111 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: I thought then there was a stretch where he reverted 112 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: back a little bit, just because that's the way he's 113 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: been his whole life. He's been. You know, he's a 114 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: tall kid, a little high cut and long legged. He's 115 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: always been a strider. You know, when I watched his 116 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: tape at Clemson, he was a big strider, and he 117 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: was rarely under dress. And when the few times had 118 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: to watch a lot of tape to see him under 119 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: dress under duress, he struggled a bit because everything got 120 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: speeded up because he had a stride to throw. And 121 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: I think they so he would revert to that on occasion, 122 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: but then they can obviously continued working on it with him, 123 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: and you could see as the second half of the 124 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: year progressed that he was back to playing with a 125 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: lot more efficiency with his drop and his set quicker 126 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: not striding as much. So I think it's a combination 127 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: of the mechanics being more consistently executed and probably the 128 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: mental part of the game. Look, as I said, he 129 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: came in with his generational talent moniker, but he still 130 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: was a second year quarterback in a brand new system, 131 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: and people, I don't think realize that when you're learning 132 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: a new system, that's hard. You know, no matter, and 133 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: he's a smart kid, but it's still it's not the 134 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 1: same doing it on the iPad or in the meetings 135 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: and then going on the field and doing it in 136 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: live action on a Sunday afternoon. So he had to 137 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: work through all that as well. And you know, the 138 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 1: play that stood out to me which I thought really 139 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: showed Trevor's growth, and there were many, but this one 140 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: just stood out to me was the playoff game against 141 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: the Chargers when he audibled at the line of scrimmage 142 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: and through the thirty nine yard touchdowns to Zay Jones, 143 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: because that was all Trevor. He called that play at 144 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and he called it based on 145 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: what they knew. The coverage look was based on film study, 146 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: and you know, he recognized it and he called it. 147 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: And it's those kinds of plays that as a coaching 148 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: staff you feel like, wow, that's really good. And I 149 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: thought that was a really good example of his mental growth. Obviously, 150 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: za Jones was wide open, so it wasn't a tough throw, 151 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: physical throw, but it was how you got to it 152 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: that said a lot. The wide receivers have to be 153 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: smart enough to pick up on that as well and 154 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: maybe run different routes. That was supposed to be Christian 155 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: Kirk's route, but Zay was in that spot and there 156 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: he goes. So that helped the you know, the quarterback 157 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: in the offense progress when you have a guy like 158 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk and z Jones, I mean to really carry 159 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: the load on the offense and understand everything, all the 160 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: nuances of Doug Peterson, all those guys put in there. 161 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: That gives you a great advantage. Without question, you hit 162 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: it right on the head. I forget you know who 163 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: was supposed to be where, But Jay Jones and Christian Kurk, 164 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: we're not in the spots with the way they practiced 165 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: that that route combination. So but obviously that's up to 166 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback to relay that information properly, and obviously Trevor 167 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: did that. And you know, those are two smart guys 168 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: in Zay Jones and Christian Kurk. But you know, just 169 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: that whole play I think kind of spoke to the 170 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: growth as a team, you know, because they're still behind 171 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: at that point and they hadn't really made any big plays. 172 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: What was fascinating about that game to me is the 173 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: way Doug Peterson came out in the second half. He 174 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: didn't come out in the second half and feel that 175 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: he had to get it all back and start throwing 176 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: the ball at the intermediate deeper level. In fact, if 177 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: memory serves me correctly, I think they had a fourteen 178 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: eighty nine yard drive which was their first touchdown drive, 179 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: which didn't seem like the way to go in that game, 180 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: given the fact that they were down what twenty one 181 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: seven at the time, you know, you would think, oh man, 182 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: they really have to start pushing it. But they didn't 183 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: take that approach. They stayed methodical, they stayed calm, They 184 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: sort of played their game, and obviously that was a 185 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: touchdown drive fourteen plays, eighty nine yards. Rachael So with 186 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: his final thoughts here Worthy, what would Calvin Ridley do 187 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: for this offense? If he's the Calvin Ridley that we saw. 188 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he played five games two years ago. That's 189 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: a long time. A one out at his best, that's 190 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. Unbelievable rout runner. Just a sweet 191 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: route runner, really understands how to use his vertical stem, 192 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: really understands how to get a corner to turn, how 193 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: to get a corner off his spot. Phenomenal separation generator 194 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: at the top of his stem. Explosive moving athlete, great 195 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: body quickness, not a true burner, but enough speed to 196 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: get vertical. Because he's such a good route runner and 197 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: knows how to set up corners, he would add a 198 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: lot to the offense if he's the cal and riddily evolved. 199 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for the time. Always a pleasure to see you 200 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: in Indie and beyond. We'll talk to you again down 201 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: the line. Hopefully the Jaguars are in the postseason conversation 202 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: for a long time. I think they might be you know, now, 203 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: it just depends on seating, but I think they'll be 204 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: in that conversation for a little bit now