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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Caddy arm.

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Speaker 2: Strong and Katy and No arms Strong and Getty strong Man.

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Speaker 2: It's a campus madness update.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's the madness part. He's not digging it.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: Is there more of that?

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Speaker 4: Okay? Here we're at the end and doing handful of

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Speaker 4: headlines for you, Jack, and we could really spend a

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Speaker 4: significant amount of time on any one of these, but

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Speaker 4: it definitely goes to the fact that crusaders against the

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Speaker 4: rot on our college campuses and actually our primary and

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Speaker 4: secondary educational systems too. We are not cherry picking. It's

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Speaker 4: more like we're standing in the midst of a cherry

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Speaker 4: orchard and you're accusing us of cherry picking. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we're surrounded by cherries. Anyway, I'm gonna start with this,

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Speaker 4: which is a little different than the other headlines. But

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Speaker 4: it was The New York Times doing a story on

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Speaker 4: how the federal policy changes changed on pell grants and

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Speaker 4: the Big Beautiful Bill and higher education grants and federal

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Speaker 4: loan caps and the rest of it. And what was

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Speaker 4: interesting to me about this And I'm sure you'll appreciate

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Speaker 4: this too, Jack, is that they mentioned that the reason

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Speaker 4: this discussion is so important is that the average cost

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Speaker 4: of public higher education in the United States has adjusted

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Speaker 4: for inflation, more than doubled since nineteen eighty. And they

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Speaker 4: don't spend a single word no less, I'm sorry, certainly

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Speaker 4: not a sentence or a paragraph in asking.

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Speaker 3: Why double right, doubled since nineteen eighty sounds low to

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Speaker 3: me by a lot.

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Speaker 4: The only thing they talk about is why government is

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Speaker 4: not doing more to hand people money to pay for

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Speaker 4: it because it's more than doubled. It's way more than doubled.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely nuts. Yeah, yeah, this is public colleges.

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Speaker 3: Who right anyway, But like I know a couple of

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Speaker 3: specific examples of it's doubled since people I know went

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Speaker 4: Well right, right. But the point obviously is that The

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Speaker 4: New York Times doesn't even ask the question, just a

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Speaker 4: question of government grants to talk about a different mindset.

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Speaker 4: A bunch of headlines here, this is something else. As

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Speaker 4: it reloads three to one and we're back, the largest

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Speaker 4: teachers union in America is pushing Holocaust education that erases Jews.

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Speaker 4: The NEA now describes the Holocaust as having twelve million

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Speaker 4: victims from different faiths without mentioning the attempted extermination of

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Speaker 3: W Wow, it was mostly Jews, as we all know,

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Speaker 3: as a chunk of Catholics and Gypsies and other people too,

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Speaker 3: But it's mostly Jews, so they're just going with different faiths.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, in fact, that was the plan all along.

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Speaker 4: You may have heard of Hitler. He wrote a book

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Speaker 4: about it in which he expelled He spelled out exactly

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Speaker 4: what he's going to do, but not to the NEA.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of the NEA, they just scrubbed their twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: five handbook from their website. But the internet is forever,

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Speaker 4: and various school choice advocates have preserved all of it

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Speaker 4: for all of us, and the NEA. This is this

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Speaker 4: year's handbook says educators must acknowledge the existence of white

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Speaker 4: supremacy culture as a primary root cause of institutional racism,

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Speaker 4: structural racism, and white privilege, and educators must work to

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Speaker 4: prohibit institutionally racist systems and to bring them down. And

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Speaker 4: it's a chapter and verse of the whole DEI critical

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Speaker 4: race theory stuff. But the biggest teachers union in America

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Speaker 4: says that needs to be the top priority of teachers

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Speaker 4: is to dismantle white supremacy in our schools and our country.

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Speaker 3: Our public school system is completely broken.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, its long is how long will it take? Can

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Speaker 3: Will just so many people have to pull out and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and school choice that Republicans are pushing right now,

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Speaker 4: Will so many people will leave the government schools in

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Speaker 4: favor of these schools that educate children, that the system

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Speaker 4: will collapse and ensure it has to.

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Speaker 3: Your number one priority should have been the entire time

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Speaker 3: and should always be for all eternity teaching, math, science,

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Speaker 4: The end, the NEEA will push strategies fostering the eradication

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Speaker 4: of institutional racism, white privilege perpetuated by white supremacy. Culture

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Speaker 4: restorative practices and techniques, and racial justice. More on this

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Speaker 4: another time, but let's click on a few more headlines.

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Speaker 4: We didn't mention this and it was an oversight. We

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Speaker 4: just got really busy that UCLA, who were absolutely hammering

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Speaker 4: by Jewish students who said the universe a lot of

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Speaker 4: antisemitic demonstrations. I'm sorry discrimination during the Spring twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: absolutely hammered UCLA, which is deserving of everything it gets.

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Speaker 4: George Mason University. On the other side of the country,

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Speaker 4: the president, facing an array of federal discrimination probes, is

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Speaker 4: as an act of self preservation. This guy, Gregory Washington,

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Speaker 4: is adi woke crusader and has sanctioned and demanded racial

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Speaker 4: discrimination in practically everything George Mason University does. And if

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Speaker 4: you're not familiar with George Mason, it is an enormous

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Speaker 4: all over the place, medical schools quietly maintain affirmative action.

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Speaker 4: Ording to Jason Riley in the Wall Street Journal, some

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Speaker 4: Supreme court said it's illegal. I just heard a story yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Have somebody who's apparently some sort of medical school star

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Speaker 3: And this person does not swing that way politically and thought,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to this school. Question number one to

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Speaker 4: How crazy is that?

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Speaker 3: Prioritizing that higher than prioritizing.

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Speaker 3: Having it be part of it at all is crazy.

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Speaker 3: But making that like the top thing are you are

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Speaker 4: This is like heart surgeons. Oh my god, it's obscene.

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Speaker 4: Do No Harm, A watchdog group that opposes racial preferences

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Speaker 4: analyze the last year's admissions data from twenty three public

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Speaker 4: were accepted. And that's called there's a name for it, racism. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 4: The Trump administration has launched a probe of the Duke

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Speaker 4: Law Journal and warns their medical school is up next,

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Speaker 4: as they are promoting racial references and racial standards for

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Speaker 4: and medical schools. And then finally, that's a story in

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Speaker 4: hire a white guy. Absolutely overt racism at America's universities

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Speaker 4: coast to coast, Minnesota to Miami. It's unbelievable. It needs

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Speaker 4: to take it apart, be taken apart. It's campus madness.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, what happened?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: I love that little exclamation point. He stepped on a

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Speaker 1: Wake up Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show,

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Speaker 4: Sam Altman of Open AI. He's been making the rounds

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Speaker 4: create just ginormous amounts of wealth but also put scats

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Speaker 4: it's like universal basic income, but he calls it universal

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Speaker 3: I like how blase they are about restructuring society in

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Speaker 4: In like six months from now, I mean, yeah, turning

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Speaker 4: Elon Musk touts universal high income, the concept that AI

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Speaker 4: Gonna get a chunk of the money. Well then how

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Speaker 4: about is he gonna be welfare? It's just gonna float everybody.

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Speaker 4: Well? See that's the thing. Benioff actually sees it as

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Speaker 4: more of a welfare program. He wrote that automation will

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Speaker 4: a massive amount of wealth will be available, and politicians

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Speaker 4: just be uncountable scads of money. Now there are critics.

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Speaker 4: Not all of Silicon Valley is on board. Here's David Autor,

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Speaker 4: is frightening in a political fantasy. Land support universal income

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Speaker 4: because quote, they think they're gonna put everyone out of work,

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Speaker 4: and they don't have a better idea for what to

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Speaker 3: He said, this, Yeah, this is a that's this whole

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Speaker 3: thing you've described is completely unworkable in any realistic sense.

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Speaker 3: So I is anybody thinking about this? Is Congress thinking

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Speaker 4: They should be if they're not interestingly. Venture capitalist Marc

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Speaker 4: Andreesen is my man in this uh. He says that

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Speaker 4: biggest understatement, serious challenge.

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Speaker 3: reminded me of Woody Allen talking a lot in his book.

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Speaker 3: Woody Allen is a movie director, one of the most

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Speaker 3: famous movie directors of all time. If you don't know

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Speaker 3: who he is anyway, in his autobiography that he wrote

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, he loved making movies the

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Speaker 3: way this guy loves practicing and the process. But like

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Speaker 3: he'd finish the movie and be like, you just see

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Speaker 3: what he's done and move on to the next one.

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Speaker 3: He's like, no enjoyment in the finished product. He'd never

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Speaker 3: watch him. He would never pay any attention to the refuse.

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Speaker 3: It was just the process was the only thing that

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Speaker 3: there was an enjoyment, The thing that most well, I

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Speaker 3: don't know most people, but a lot of people think

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Speaker 3: would be where you get the enjoyment. The finished product

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Speaker 3: or the winning the tournament or becoming the top salesman

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Speaker 3: or whatever is.

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Speaker 4: Not what you think it was gonna be. Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: can get quite satisfaction out of it, like he was

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Speaker 4: talking about. But the idea of like constant joy is

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Speaker 4: that the right word, uh, you know, happiness slash euphoria

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Speaker 4: slash cheerfulness slash excitement. That's just that's not what we

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Speaker 4: need to chase because it's illusory. It goes way so quickly,

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Speaker 4: you know, it was kind of it passed by so quickly.

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Speaker 4: But I can relate to and it's a great description.

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Speaker 4: So he wins a super giant golf tournament that that

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Speaker 4: millions of people around the world just dream of being

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Speaker 4: good enough to win that tournament, having the acclaim, getting

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Speaker 4: the check, blah blah blah, and then you know, half

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Speaker 4: an hour later, it's like, what do you want to

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Speaker 4: have for dinner? That's a pretty good description of the

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Speaker 4: way life really is. Yes, it's about the people you

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Speaker 4: care about. I mean, isn't that just the bottom line?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So, and I get I get well, I guess

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Speaker 3: the ultimate point would be you have to enjoy the

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Speaker 3: process of life, not making a movie or becoming a

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Speaker 3: golfer or whatever or whatever it does you do, just

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Speaker 3: process of life, the daily grind, which is what it

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Speaker 3: feels like a lot of times is what life is,

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Speaker 3: and you gotta find it. If you're waiting for the payoff,

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Speaker 3: it ain't coming.

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Speaker 4: Oh, folks, that was the payoff. The payoff is there's

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Speaker 4: no payoff, Kirk Bluie. That should be taught more.

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Speaker 3: I think that that's not I think that's the opposite

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Speaker 3: of what our culture tends to tell us.

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Speaker 4: Right right right. The movie doesn't end. There's no end

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Speaker 4: to the movie. Your part is just written out now.

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Speaker 4: If you want to get it metaphysical and talk about

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Speaker 4: religion and life after death or whatever, that's a completely

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Speaker 4: different topic. But no, you don't win. You never win.

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Speaker 4: You just keep playing. Maybe that's how I would sum

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Speaker 4: it up.

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Speaker 3: And if you enjoy it the best you can, well,

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Speaker 3: I think part of the reason that a person like

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Speaker 3: you know not to bring it back to golf, but

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Speaker 3: you could apply this to anybody. A guy like Tiger

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Speaker 3: Woods goes off the rails. I think he was probably

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Speaker 3: convinced that the payoff was going to be the payoff

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Speaker 3: and the thing, and it wasn't enough, and so he

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Speaker 3: needed all the women in the and whatever all other

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Speaker 3: weird things he was doing to try to get the

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Speaker 3: high that he needed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he wanted that fist pumping, yelling moment to like last,

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Speaker 4: that was the gold.

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Speaker 3: So to the idea that there is no payoff, here's

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Speaker 3: here's the you know, here's the key thing to know

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Speaker 3: about life. There is no payoff. Can how many of us?

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Speaker 3: Can you look at the day today and I've got

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Speaker 3: a very mundane, routine day work, got an appointment with something,

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Speaker 3: somebody's gonna come fix something on my car, blah blah blah,

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Speaker 3: take care of the kids. Meal for saying?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Can I Can you get up every day and think

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Speaker 3: today is the payoff? This is the payoff? Today is

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Speaker 3: my payoff? Is that motivating? That is hard?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't know. I blew my own mind. The

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Speaker 4: great philosophers of the world have concerned themselves with this

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Speaker 4: very question, and they've come up with different answers.

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Speaker 3: I may have immobilized myself. I mean, I might not

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Speaker 3: be able to function the rest of the day. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna lock up and they're going to carry me out

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Speaker 3: of here on ajourney ironic. Yeah, that would be unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe the Armstrong and Getty Show, thee

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Speaker 4: And this is the reason I'm disgusted and embittered. This

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Speaker 4: is the most sausagey of sausage making. If you're familiar

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Speaker 4: with the old reference to politics, here's your headline from

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Speaker 4: the wa Pole. I'm gonna read you just a little

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Speaker 4: bit because it's kind of a revealing of at least

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Speaker 4: a couple of things. Trump's tax and immigration bill clears

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Speaker 4: Hurtle after late night vote to the House Budget. He

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Speaker 4: passed a massive tax and immigration package central President Trump's

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Speaker 4: agenda late Sunday, overcoming opposition from hardline conservatives, overspending four

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Speaker 4: fiscal conservatives all deficit hawks aligned with the ull truck

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Speaker 4: conservative House Freedom Caucus, changed their vote to present, allowing

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Speaker 4: the legislative monstrosity I injected that package to be recommended

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Speaker 4: favorably to the House by a vote of seventeen to sixteen.

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Speaker 4: But their hesitance to vote for the One Big Beautiful

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Speaker 4: Bill Act out of committee is a reminder that the

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Speaker 4: far right flank of the Republican Conference remains skeptical.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting they call these people ultra conservative of right wing,

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Speaker 3: when not very many years ago you would have been

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Speaker 3: the center of the Republican Party. I mean that would

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Speaker 3: have been I mean, as like what the Republican Party was.

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Speaker 3: It was a term you would have used to define

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Speaker 3: the party.

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Speaker 4: In fact, it was so intrinsic to the Republican Party

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Speaker 4: you'd feel silly and repeating what you just repeat it right,

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Speaker 4: that there's no need fiscally conservative.

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Speaker 3: But I suppose in reality, given where most of the

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Speaker 3: party is, they are ultra right wing or ultra conservative

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Speaker 3: because the bulk of the party doesn't care apparently apparently

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Speaker 3: not voters.

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Speaker 4: So spending your children and grandchildren into tax and spend oblivion.

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Speaker 3: Well all right, Well this story got repeated a lot

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Speaker 3: over the weekend that we got downgraded on one of

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Speaker 3: our credit scores by one of the major organizations that

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Speaker 3: does that sort of thing. Yeah, and.

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Speaker 4: Over the weekend it kind of.

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Speaker 3: Got put out there that it was like a Trump

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Speaker 3: thing because of tariffs or whatever. It was basically around

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Speaker 3: the fact that our debt is just so high. It's

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Speaker 3: just like this would happen to you if you go

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Speaker 3: to the bank and they take a look at your

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Speaker 3: well you've got with your car payments. Now you bought

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Speaker 3: like eight cars and two houses, and you're just you're

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Speaker 3: just overmaxed, So we can't.

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Speaker 4: Have eighty thousand dollars in credit card bills and you

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Speaker 4: only make ninety a year.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, So these jong grady because you just spend

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Speaker 3: more than you make. That's what happened. That didn't happen

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Speaker 3: just in the last one hundred days under Trump.

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Speaker 4: We've been building this for a long time. And the

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Speaker 4: final reason I am completely embittered about the Republican Party

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Speaker 4: in politics and America and democracy and life on Earth

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Speaker 4: is the fact that, and it's a two part horror show,

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Speaker 4: Part number one is that there are a bunch of

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Speaker 4: swing district Republicans from big blue states California and New

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Speaker 4: York most notably, who are not only trying to defend

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Speaker 4: the idea of the salt deduction, the state and local

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Speaker 4: tax deduction, they want to raise it from ten thousand

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Speaker 4: dollars to at least thirty thousand dollars and maybe fifty

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Speaker 4: thousand dollars. Meaning, if you live in a tax and

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Speaker 4: spend lunatic state like say California, all of those incredibly

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Speaker 4: high taxes you're paying you can deduct from your federal

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Speaker 4: tax return, so the other states will subsidize the tax

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Speaker 4: and spend lunacy of New York and California.

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Speaker 3: So my brothers in Kansas pay some of my taxes

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Speaker 3: because I live in California.

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Speaker 4: That makes sense. Yeah, you get a giant subsidy from

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Speaker 4: the other states, you pay a lower federal tax rate,

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Speaker 4: significantly lower depending on you know, how much money you

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Speaker 4: make than folks in fiscally responsible states. As indefensible morally,

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Speaker 4: it's indefensible as for Republican reason, not the party, but

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Speaker 4: the idea of we have a federal system than states,

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Speaker 4: and the states can do what they want, and they

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Speaker 4: should do what they want.

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Speaker 3: If you're fine, if Massachusetts wants to have a sixty

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Speaker 3: five percent income.

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Speaker 4: Tax, go ahead. I'm not living there, but go ahead.

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Speaker 4: But then to transfer that profligacy to the other states

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Speaker 4: is it's a horror. And as a conservative slash Republican,

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Speaker 4: he says, trying not to vomit because of my embitteredness,

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Speaker 4: the idea that that is a plank of the Republican Party.

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Speaker 4: I'm done.

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Speaker 3: It's it's hard to swallow. I mean it, you know,

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Speaker 3: it would help Joe and I if this happens financially,

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Speaker 3: But it's awful, absolutely awful.

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Speaker 4: I believe you can't defend it. No, it's it's it's

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Speaker 4: it's I am horrified. I don't care how much it

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Speaker 4: would benefit me. God bless me. I have principles. It's

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Speaker 4: really held me back in life. Jack too. I just

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Speaker 4: I'm done. I'm done. Yeah, it's uh.

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Speaker 3: Well, Like I said last week, Sarah Isger of The Dispatch,

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Speaker 3: I heard her on a podcast They're having this discussion

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Speaker 3: about party and she said, there are no political parties.

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Speaker 4: What are we talking about here? Yeah? I need to

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Speaker 4: seek that out because I think she nailed absolutely, one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent. There are no political parties. There's just whoever

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Speaker 4: emerges as the candidate cycle by psych and then whatever

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Speaker 4: they believe the party goes along with. And it's true

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Speaker 4: on both sides. So the idea that there are parties

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Speaker 4: that stand for something, we need to all move past. That.

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Speaker 4: From my hero hl Menken, every election is a sort

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Speaker 4: of advanced auction sale of stolen goods. That's always been true.

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Speaker 4: There was a time when a certain party had certain

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Speaker 4: principles that I admired. Do you have time is past?

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Speaker 4: You know what my high school sweetheart, college sweetheart, my

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Speaker 4: wife of forty years is when she's not turning tricks.

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Speaker 4: She's killing people for the mob. Okay, she's not the

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Speaker 4: woman I felt at This is, by the way, fictional

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Speaker 4: illustration has nothing to do with my beloved bride Judith.

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Speaker 4: She's not the person she was. You can forget it.

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Speaker 3: It's over, so move on.

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Speaker 4: Get get an AI girlfriend like a normal person and

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