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Speaker 1: so we'll we'll just we'll start and let him let
Speaker 1: him jump on in here, uh boy, begin at the
Speaker 1: game in San Francisco. Where do we look to for
Speaker 1: improvement for this team next year? Who are guys you
Speaker 1: say you need to be better? You need to contribute Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, is the NFL network is starting to
Speaker 1: air the divisional playoff game between the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: in the Collyways, right man? I mean we all got
Speaker 1: to start with with four. You gotta start with four.
Speaker 1: Your quarterback has to play better he is. And I
Speaker 1: say that because we know he is a better player
Speaker 1: than what he's showed in that game, what he's showing
Speaker 1: in the Washington game and a lot of times throughout
Speaker 1: the season with leading the league in giving the ball away. Um,
Speaker 1: if Zeke is on this roster next year, he needs
Speaker 1: to play better. I think Zeke can still be more
Speaker 1: explosive than he was. I would love to see Zeke
Speaker 1: be more explosivelosive than he was. And I want to
Speaker 1: see Michael Galli be healthy. I want to see what
Speaker 1: he looks like when he's back healthy, full coming off
Speaker 1: the because he's coming off the ACL this year. Uh,
Speaker 1: we all know it takes a little time to kind
Speaker 1: of get back into the swing of things. So offensively,
Speaker 1: I want to see those guys played better. Um, I
Speaker 1: got nothing to say about taking Lawrence. I love the
Speaker 1: way to take play, especially coming on at the end
Speaker 1: of the season. The way he played in the San
Speaker 1: Francisco game. What more can you ask for him? For
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, you want him to get the first team
Speaker 1: All Pro game. I want him to be the defensive MVP.
Speaker 1: I want I want him to be the defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year. That's what I want, Tray Munt Diggs.
Speaker 1: Everybody could always get better. Give me some more picks.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you had a hell of a season. I
Speaker 1: want to see the Ron Blamp you know, growing to
Speaker 1: his second year as well. So defensively, I love it. Offensively,
Speaker 1: I think we still got some things to work on,
Speaker 1: but I think we could be better. Well, hell, I
Speaker 1: didn't know you're gonna handle everybody out of mess with you.
Speaker 1: You know what when you when you pose the question,
Speaker 1: I thought it was seriously after that, man, come on,
Speaker 1: man knew he got he get to get this with
Speaker 1: another gotcha question? Who we think needs to be that person?
Speaker 1: But honestly knew he you know everybody that you just said, Um, Danny,
Speaker 1: I think it starts before. Obviously he has to be better.
Speaker 1: But if I could just pinpoint someone on our offense line,
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith, who was outstanding, who was outstanding? He needs
Speaker 1: to be better? And what I'm saying, just all these
Speaker 1: little nuances to make him that elite left tackle that
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys need, we need to reload at the
Speaker 1: offensive line position. I say that's what he's gonna be,
Speaker 1: a left tackle, yes, okay, And I think that's already
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, Okay, I just thought that
Speaker 1: answered itself throughout the season, and especially in the way
Speaker 1: that you had to maneuver in the playoffs. But he
Speaker 1: has to be better. He needs to erase that question
Speaker 1: around him because we see how good he can be.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that you know, look, he just needs
Speaker 1: to take the next step to be better. But everybody
Speaker 1: that you just outline defensively, our defensive line also DIGGI zuela.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask him to be better, But I don't
Speaker 1: know how where is the ceiling for him, because you know,
Speaker 1: he flashed. He did some really great things. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you would have went into that attempt
Speaker 1: into that San Francisco game expecting to see superior play
Speaker 1: out of your defensive tackles the way that you did.
Speaker 1: Those guys balled out. They did a good job, and
Speaker 1: especially with all season long, that being our Achilles Hill
Speaker 1: is how many runs we get, you know, the rushing
Speaker 1: yards that we gave up. But those are just two
Speaker 1: positions that I can think of right now that need
Speaker 1: to be better. And when I say Tyler Smith is
Speaker 1: not because he had a bad season, I'm saying that
Speaker 1: so that he can reach the stratosphere of the elite
Speaker 1: left tackles like we saw Trent Williams side. Can't he
Speaker 1: get there? Yeah? You get get that. I've been talking.
Speaker 1: I've been talking about trip for a while. Many guy's good.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Trent Williams. I still still still
Speaker 1: want to know. How did Washington screw that up? You
Speaker 1: know that? Just no, no, no, no, no hearing yourself.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I okay, Kirk Cousins thing, I
Speaker 1: can get a little bit. They weren't sure. A couple
Speaker 1: of people liking, you know, but but this yeah you
Speaker 1: used to hide was even number four overall. I mean,
Speaker 1: the guy lived up to the billings. How do you
Speaker 1: mess that up? How hasn't been hit man? And how
Speaker 1: do we make this right? You know, let's let's make
Speaker 1: this real. You need to be here. But anyway, uh So,
Speaker 1: when I when I look at this team, about four
Speaker 1: because I keep you know, the Facebook, people keep hitting
Speaker 1: me up and I say, Jerry has to be more
Speaker 1: realistic about his talent. That's something that's been said for
Speaker 1: a long time. Then they overvalue their talent um. I
Speaker 1: remember when Jerry tumping again, we are to make the
Speaker 1: offense Romo friendly and you know they want to go
Speaker 1: throw it out there because he was like, I'm trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, think of Romo like Peyton Manning and they
Speaker 1: were throwing too much. And what was Tony's best season?
Speaker 1: It was when DeMarco mur was the NFL Offensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year. They had a great run balance. You know,
Speaker 1: Romo throwing the ball forty times a game trying to
Speaker 1: be paid Manning wasn't it. And this wasn't a slam
Speaker 1: on Tony at all. Tony was an undrafted free agent
Speaker 1: who became a Pro Bowl player at a heck of
Speaker 1: a career. But there's a reason why Manning was a
Speaker 1: first round pick. There's a reason why Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 1: a first round pick. Dak is a player that in
Speaker 1: my mind, they're still doing that same thing they did
Speaker 1: with Romo. We're because especially because we paid you, we
Speaker 1: are thinking you are this elite quarterback. Who's going to
Speaker 1: go out here and make Valda's scantling look good. Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers could do that because he's in Rodgers Tracy RD
Speaker 1: talent and Patrick mahomes Is. You know, they just broke
Speaker 1: them all with a Patrick mahomes And this is not
Speaker 1: a slam on Dak at all. It's not. Ain't many
Speaker 1: dudes like that. I mean, mahomes Is arguably put up
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame resume right now. You know, dudes
Speaker 1: can play fifteen years and never do with things. My
Speaker 1: homes is done and we already know where Rogers is.
Speaker 1: So with that said, get some players around the guy,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And Clarence He'll talked about it on
Speaker 1: the on the Media mat show on DAS Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: He's like, in the whole thought process of CD and
Speaker 1: the maybe's wide receiver was flawed and they got away
Speaker 1: with it. But against the number one team in the
Speaker 1: National Football League, you saw it on display. You got
Speaker 1: away with it against Tampa, a team that had a
Speaker 1: losing record, but against the number one defense in the league,
Speaker 1: you needed somebody else. CD did his part man ten catches,
Speaker 1: but then after that gallup zero catches, t Y Hilton
Speaker 1: one catch Noah Brown too, And I told somebody other thing.
Speaker 1: I don't blame Noah Brown, not his fault management to
Speaker 1: go here. That's where they have to get better to
Speaker 1: help for and for anybody else. And wants to debate
Speaker 1: me on this, I go back to when Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: went to Denver. You know what they did, brought in reinforcements.
Speaker 1: Already had to marry as Thomas there. They went out
Speaker 1: there and brought in Wells Welker. You had an Eric
Speaker 1: to Hecker that had the big tight end Thomas. I
Speaker 1: mean they kept giving the guy weapons, and when he
Speaker 1: was in Indianapolis, Bill Polian kept using draft pick after
Speaker 1: draft pick to build that offense. I mean they use
Speaker 1: a number one pick on Reggie Wayne. They already had
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison. Then they use a number one pick on
Speaker 1: tight end Dallas Clark. Then later on he use the
Speaker 1: number one pick on Anthony Gonzalez. They used number one
Speaker 1: pick on running back Joseph a dive after they use
Speaker 1: a number one pick on Edwin James got a die
Speaker 1: that after die, they wouldn't use a number one pick
Speaker 1: on that kid out of Yukon Donald or what's his name.
Speaker 1: I mean, they just kept putting talent more talent around
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. They need to do that with four And
Speaker 1: for the people who want to sit up here and say, well,
Speaker 1: you're paying him forty million dollars, he needs to make
Speaker 1: up with these guys. We're gonna sit around here say this,
Speaker 1: or we're gonna sit up here just prove the guy
Speaker 1: needs some help around him. Brock Purdy. When I watched
Speaker 1: this game, this is where Kyle Shannahan, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: was really good. Hein't asked Brock Purty and win the game.
Speaker 1: He asked the playmakers to win the game. George Kittle,
Speaker 1: go win the game. He gonna make a crazy catch
Speaker 1: and Deebo Samuels run. Seems he asked those guys. And
Speaker 1: that's not a slam on Dak Prescott. Most quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: this game needs some help. But where's that philosophy come
Speaker 1: from that you can get away with less talent? Who
Speaker 1: did that? You know? New England? New England was a
Speaker 1: team that showed you that you could go out there
Speaker 1: and winning with West Walker and a few guys. You know,
Speaker 1: all you needed was Tom Brave. Guys from receiver the
Speaker 1: cornerback cross to receive. Come on, that's that's the philosophy
Speaker 1: that fooled everybody into thinking that they could do that,
Speaker 1: not looking at the fact that, hey dog, you kind
Speaker 1: of got to have a defense around this too. You know,
Speaker 1: well come on in, yeah, you know he's this is
Speaker 1: this yeah church, yeah, But that's but that's the philosophy
Speaker 1: I think in this being a copycat league, they thought
Speaker 1: that you look, man, we don't have to get superstars
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. We don't need necessarily a running back.
Speaker 1: That's the of the Corey dealing. Even though they didn't
Speaker 1: have a Corey dealing. We don't Corey dealing. Boy, they
Speaker 1: brought him in there, but it was a whole but
Speaker 1: you saw, but you saw the next level that they
Speaker 1: ascended to once they bought in that kind of talent.
Speaker 1: But they never had that. Those Super Bowl teams never
Speaker 1: had a guy that you went to and go, oh,
Speaker 1: that is a stud playmaker that these were just little
Speaker 1: keys and tools for Tom Brady to be the man
Speaker 1: that we know that he is. But we never give
Speaker 1: any credit to the defenses that he had on the
Speaker 1: other side. I mean, look what you're talking about. I
Speaker 1: think everybody's echoed that about Dak needing more than just
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb needing more than just Tony Pollard. And when
Speaker 1: you count against the cap so much, how the hell
Speaker 1: do you bring those guys in? How do you get
Speaker 1: that kind of talent around straight what you're done? Last season?
Speaker 1: They had Amari Cooper, they had Tony Pollard, they had
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb. Yeah, they had Dalton Shows, they had Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 1: They had guys right to be able to have make
Speaker 1: that same type of noise when you're looking at even
Speaker 1: teams like Jacksonville who got Za Jones and Christian Kirk
Speaker 1: and Travis etn you got talent around around they, and
Speaker 1: then you still didn't get it done. So, like to
Speaker 1: your point, I don't understand how you think you're gonna
Speaker 1: lose a guy like Amari Cooper and replace him with
Speaker 1: James Washington, who we all sating here and degree we
Speaker 1: weren't sure what the heck was going on with that,
Speaker 1: and say we're gonna be better on offense. Was And
Speaker 1: I'm asking this, I'm not being sarcastic because I don't
Speaker 1: know the answer to this. Was Amark Cooper hurt last
Speaker 1: year when we played against San Francisco. Was he yelling
Speaker 1: from something? Was he coming off of an injury? I
Speaker 1: don't know knowledge, no, no, okay, yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: so okay, And look I understand the people who talking, well,
Speaker 1: he vanished here, he couldn't know his count on YadA
Speaker 1: YadA ya. But I was still of the opinion, especially
Speaker 1: with Gallup getting the ACL I'll keep Cooper before I
Speaker 1: keep Gallup. To me, Gallup was a guy who's really good,
Speaker 1: and you know as a third guy and even as
Speaker 1: a second guy time. But to pay him that kind
Speaker 1: of money in the production you got and then you
Speaker 1: see what Cooper did this, I'm about to say it's
Speaker 1: I would say, because Jakobe per said better than well,
Speaker 1: I guess I don't want you to give my seven trouble. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, Jacoby Brissette is a quarterback in Cleveland for
Speaker 1: most of the year, and Amari Cooper was on a
Speaker 1: lot of NFL highlight reels, uh this season of a
Speaker 1: guy who you say, man, what happened when when he
Speaker 1: was here they were all saying, Wow, we can't believe
Speaker 1: they let that guy go. They were saying that in
Speaker 1: Cleveland all the time. So I think they messed up there.
Speaker 1: And then the whole thing was which they did a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago when they got rid of Dead.
Speaker 1: You're gonna sit up here and sell us on some
Speaker 1: hopes and and you're wrong, and you think they had
Speaker 1: to learn from that. But those are the things that
Speaker 1: go in there. And we didn't even talked about your
Speaker 1: boy jaylen Tober. You know, third round pick he got
Speaker 1: off top off. Well, I mean, you know it's like
Speaker 1: recruiting thing. Well we got a five star Ward wide receiver.
Speaker 1: We see nothing. I mean, I mean, did he did
Speaker 1: he get five stars? Did he get five jerseys up
Speaker 1: this year? Did he get five? I don't even know.
Speaker 1: But it's that kind of stuff from a management standpoint,
Speaker 1: And I talked about that when I when I did
Speaker 1: my live shots over the Channel five for big games.
Speaker 1: They had failed And this is where we have to
Speaker 1: start to look at management to get you get better
Speaker 1: at at understanding their talent and not over valu within
Speaker 1: as much. Church. So what were so what we're saying
Speaker 1: Dak doesn't have happen of hell? Is that no, no, no,
Speaker 1: were so new He posed the question of who do
Speaker 1: we think needs to get better going into next season.
Speaker 1: H Tyler Smith. I said, I'd like to see Michael
Speaker 1: Gallant get better because he canna be more healthy next season.
Speaker 1: If Zeke's on the roster, I believe he needs to
Speaker 1: play better. He needs to be more explosive than he was.
Speaker 1: Of course we all know Dak. And then I went
Speaker 1: to the defensive, like, hey, them dudes, he took everybody
Speaker 1: on the Yeah, I mean everybody no more. Can you
Speaker 1: ask Michael Parsons, you can't say nothing about d Law
Speaker 1: because his impact show what you're gonna do. Ask Trademont
Speaker 1: did to catch eleven interceptions? Like your stars on on
Speaker 1: that side of the ball, they play, they did they think?
Speaker 1: On offense, the guys I like to see play better,
Speaker 1: the guys that I listened, especially four, because I mean
Speaker 1: we all we all know. Let's two trips too. In
Speaker 1: my mind. One you already named Michael Gallup. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like he needs to step it up. And
Speaker 1: usually people do after you know, that first year coming
Speaker 1: back from the ACL they trying to get themselves figured out,
Speaker 1: and in the year after that they kind of get
Speaker 1: back to themselves. So hopefully he can get to that.
Speaker 1: Because of one two combo, I mean, it works unbelievable
Speaker 1: in national football. They we see it in Cincinnati. You
Speaker 1: got Boyd and Chase. When one guy's lacking, the other
Speaker 1: guys stepping up. So definitely Michael Gallup and the other
Speaker 1: guy from me gotta be Tyler beotis the center out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's done a great job of
Speaker 1: communicating throughout the offensive line and making sure they're playing
Speaker 1: is a unit. But when you look at it, where
Speaker 1: did the pressure come? You know, for the most part
Speaker 1: of the season, it came from the gut. You know,
Speaker 1: when we're going against those high profile defensive tackles, the
Speaker 1: Vaves of the world, the Eric Arms stays with the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers time and time again, they were getting
Speaker 1: pressure up front. I mean, if we look at it,
Speaker 1: they were busting through that officive line, especially on a rundown.
Speaker 1: So to me, you know, he's still a young player.
Speaker 1: He can develop a little bit, but I gotta see
Speaker 1: more out of the kid. I got on. I got
Speaker 1: one question we talk about. Look at the teams that
Speaker 1: are left in the final four. Okay, look at the
Speaker 1: weapons that they have at receiver and so so so,
Speaker 1: and look at the quarterbacks as well. Though you're talking
Speaker 1: about Joe Burrow, you're talking about Pat Mahomes. You're talking
Speaker 1: about guys of the upper echelon who have more talent
Speaker 1: at wilde receiver and they are going further than us
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I don't know about Kansas City though, No, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just saying Mahomes is, we don't
Speaker 1: have that, ye, And it's so since you don't you
Speaker 1: do a Philly did Philly did? Hey? You know, because
Speaker 1: Philly comes in here, we don't know about Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: And then it wasn't talk of well, you got all
Speaker 1: these draft picks, so if Jalen Hurts doesn't do it,
Speaker 1: you can use the top five pick, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: to get a quarterback. But how he rose from the
Speaker 1: generalman and a j Brow you go paiji brat'll we'll
Speaker 1: take him. And then you had moved up. I mean,
Speaker 1: you drafted DeVante Smith over Michael Parsons. You were so
Speaker 1: sold on so they kept Hey, how how can we
Speaker 1: keep throwing talent to help the quarterback? The top ten
Speaker 1: offense though for the year look at yeah, lotistic, but okay,
Speaker 1: can be that void of talent? All right? I mean
Speaker 1: we scored twenty six and in the fourth quarter, I
Speaker 1: think we have we have some a defense that put
Speaker 1: us in position to score a lot of points a
Speaker 1: lot of times. If you're if your play caller got
Speaker 1: the job with the Carolina Panthers, Kellen Moore the opportunity
Speaker 1: and Marror's up for that job, would you be sad
Speaker 1: like the way you're about to be sad? If dan
Speaker 1: Quinn Leaves is not, would you you would be a
Speaker 1: little said? If left? You know, I ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: devastated sad. So when you bring that up about hey,
Speaker 1: what what statistic number, He's like, okay, you know any
Speaker 1: do you not? Okay? If Doug nust Meyer was called
Speaker 1: the players or Brian Schotenheimer was called the plays, you
Speaker 1: know what I feel. I feel that they could could
Speaker 1: get some of the same type of But about the
Speaker 1: guy that's calling the players, it's the guy that's executing them,
Speaker 1: I mean to be That's what it comes down to, Right,
Speaker 1: Shanahan be calling he got and the guys they execute
Speaker 1: them on the field, right, they do. But the pressure
Speaker 1: of the pressure that they are I don't know. But
Speaker 1: like I said, when defenses come in, they say they
Speaker 1: know what we're running. That's that's on the play call.
Speaker 1: We're watching DBS run these routes. Yeah, but the week
Speaker 1: before we were talking about the guy being a boy ja,
Speaker 1: I guess the losing team they were they work. I'll
Speaker 1: give them that. I'll give them that. But that is
Speaker 1: killing the problem though. How many times throughout the season
Speaker 1: do we go, oh, yeah, that's it and then in
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Speaker 1: that is that here we go killing again or is
Speaker 1: it's I mean, that's where where's the Let's take a break.
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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore yes up for the job with the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1: It's funny how he's getting an interview with Eric b Enemy.
Speaker 1: I think it's what the fifth game, fifth AFC Championship game,
Speaker 1: And yeah, the Panthers elected not to talk to him.
Speaker 1: But um, so Kellen Moore could could get a job,
Speaker 1: could get a job. Guys. I think he's a good coordinator.
Speaker 1: But they're just too many times I'm scratching my head
Speaker 1: about what I see out there. Um that's me. But
Speaker 1: right now, looking at Kelly Moore's odds for the Carolina
Speaker 1: Panthers job, he's twenty five to one tight with Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn and then uh, Shane Stiking is two to one,
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes five to two, Sean pay for the one,
Speaker 1: Mike Halfca six to one to Mika Ryan's ten to one,
Speaker 1: Frank rk Is ten to one, Jim Caldwell twenty to one,
Speaker 1: Mike Halfca. Man, he went up the boards quick. He
Speaker 1: came out with me, when you fit the profile? He came,
Speaker 1: what else? Man, you don't fit the profile? So it
Speaker 1: is what it is. So it is okay, um, so
Speaker 1: felts something else. Listen two years ago, three years ago,
Speaker 1: when Big Mike first got here, I said, the person
Speaker 1: I would like to see calling the plays, it's Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: I have not wavered from that, and I will continue
Speaker 1: to be that way. I want to know. I want
Speaker 1: to know, Okay, when Big Mike first got here, where
Speaker 1: was he? Where was he at the previous year in
Speaker 1: the lab? He's in the lab breaking him down and
Speaker 1: we sipp in the kol a. Okay, so maybe Big
Speaker 1: Mike was in the lab. I want to see what
Speaker 1: he learned in the lab, all right, because I don't
Speaker 1: want it to be ever again. Hey man, Big Mike,
Speaker 1: and ain't on Big Mike, okay, is on killing. We
Speaker 1: don't know what's being called, Who's who's saying running who's
Speaker 1: saying pass it. Nah man, you're super Bowl winning coach
Speaker 1: with play calling history. I want to see you call
Speaker 1: the plays. Bring you a OCN that's gonna help you.
Speaker 1: Then it reverses right, you was helping killing. Let somebody
Speaker 1: help you figure out, you know. Blah blah bah blah blahlah.
Speaker 1: But on that day, I want to see him righthood
Speaker 1: with the thing called the play. I want to see
Speaker 1: him McMahon it call the place. I want to see
Speaker 1: him do it. That's what I want to see that.
Speaker 1: There ain't no shot to kill him more. We already
Speaker 1: knew how I feel about him. I thought he ran
Speaker 1: the ball more this season, so I did appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I feel like we did play to our defense more
Speaker 1: this season. We just couldn't find a way not to
Speaker 1: turn the ball over. So shout out to kill him
Speaker 1: more for that. But what I like to see Big
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy call the plays. Absolutely, that is not what
Speaker 1: the Jerry Jones is going to allow McCarthy to due.
Speaker 1: Let's just be keep it real. Kellen came with the house, wishless.
Speaker 1: Brot with the house. He came with the house. He
Speaker 1: was okay wishless, So you had to say to get
Speaker 1: the job. That's that's yeah, it's when Wade Phillis got
Speaker 1: the job. Oh there's your court offensive. Yeah you're good.
Speaker 1: We already hired Jason. You're good. Yeah. I mean that's
Speaker 1: the way it is. And Barry already said it. He's
Speaker 1: like boy Jenius. He was. He was that. He was
Speaker 1: the dude that everybody was pointing to to be the
Speaker 1: next next. All right. The one thing that really kind
Speaker 1: of it throws you off about Kellen is the numbers.
Speaker 1: Don't go with the optics that the numbers tell you
Speaker 1: the number one scoring offense in the league. When you
Speaker 1: watch a Cowboys game, you ask yourself, where's the balance?
Speaker 1: You know, why are they so quick to throw away
Speaker 1: to run or why are they running it so damn
Speaker 1: much when these passing players are open and and a
Speaker 1: lot of it. To me, I go back to what
Speaker 1: you just said, it's the guy at the helm, it's Dak.
Speaker 1: What is not registering with Dak? Because to me, with
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, it just seems to be a system timing.
Speaker 1: All of that never seemed to materialize throughout this season.
Speaker 1: If you just go back to Week one in that
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay game, they looked out of sorts, and you
Speaker 1: said to yourself, Oh, it's because he didn't have a preseason.
Speaker 1: He didn't have enough time to mend with these guys.
Speaker 1: But then throughout him and CD did not get this
Speaker 1: thing rolling until almost to the end when you start
Speaker 1: to see CD lambs start to materialize, those big plays,
Speaker 1: big those touchdowns and all of that. But all of
Speaker 1: these dates resurface again in the playoffs. Turnovers, lack of
Speaker 1: consistency or just any kind of continuity within your offensive line,
Speaker 1: the balance of running the ball. We said it, man Friday,
Speaker 1: we gotta run this ball. At least thirty times we
Speaker 1: had San Francisco. I don't care. There wasn't at any point,
Speaker 1: maybe to the fourth quarter, that you said, we are
Speaker 1: not in this game anymore. But we have completely abandoned
Speaker 1: the run. And so probably because of Tony Pollard, and
Speaker 1: you recognize that, I don't know. I'm sure they are
Speaker 1: all licking their chops when they see number twenty one
Speaker 1: back there because they know, man, he didn't have any
Speaker 1: explosiveness anymore. But our offense at times in this season
Speaker 1: looked dead in the water. So we give Kelling more
Speaker 1: his kudos. We tell him how great he is. We
Speaker 1: look at the numbers and say, hey, that's worth getting
Speaker 1: an interview or at least getting the head coaching job.
Speaker 1: But then when you sit and you watch it, you
Speaker 1: ask yourself, you know, how's this thing functioning? How is it?
Speaker 1: Number one? How is it? You know, you feel like
Speaker 1: you're fooling yourself on him and his numbers? They without
Speaker 1: a doubt. I mean to me, we talked about it
Speaker 1: all the time. You know, it wasn't the time, consistency proof,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, your trust. We've been saying that about
Speaker 1: killing points in this season. You know, everybody was like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, he's stuck to the ground. Game they
Speaker 1: got they had a balanced look over here, and it
Speaker 1: simply came down to all those games where it was
Speaker 1: either tight or they took the l It came down
Speaker 1: to turning the football over and the man at the
Speaker 1: handle right, Well, I mean that's all it came down too.
Speaker 1: So we could sit here and point, you know things,
Speaker 1: say hey we gotta get this play calling better, we
Speaker 1: gotta get more help around him. But if you look
Speaker 1: at it, when it mattered most, what bit this team
Speaker 1: in the butt? What'll turnovers? And it was like that
Speaker 1: the entire season long, Just like last year when penalties
Speaker 1: was biting this team in the butt all year and
Speaker 1: they reared the ugly head in the playoffs. It happens.
Speaker 1: So to me, it's not about the play calling in order,
Speaker 1: It's about the guy at the him throwing these interceptions.
Speaker 1: Because I gotta say this, like even in San Francisco game,
Speaker 1: you know, Kelly Moore drew up the play that had
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton streaking down the hatch. That's his play.
Speaker 1: He called that play that missed it. You know, Cede Lamb,
Speaker 1: he's got three steps on the guy that just threw
Speaker 1: the ball up behind Michael Gallup, Mike Post, it's behind him.
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta I gotta agree with Kurt Warner
Speaker 1: on that on that player, the t Wile Hilton. He
Speaker 1: said that would be dangonary impossible about the way that
Speaker 1: it was the blitz was ran and how they would
Speaker 1: have had to switch the line to get for that
Speaker 1: to see that, to change the hot and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So I'm going with Kurt Warner on that one. But
Speaker 1: y'all are correct that CD lamp pass should have been
Speaker 1: a dang on to us down that Michael gallipass should
Speaker 1: have been a touchdown. I'm okay with that, but I
Speaker 1: just want I'll go back through our text, Shane and
Speaker 1: see how many times we say hold on? How many
Speaker 1: times we do the ball on the first in that draw?
Speaker 1: How many times we did this? Why we didn't run
Speaker 1: in here? Why we didn't do that? What is killing
Speaker 1: calling in this But like it's always, it is not
Speaker 1: always eighty percent of the time in this season. At
Speaker 1: some point in the game, we were like, come on, bro,
Speaker 1: why are we doing that? Why are we lining up
Speaker 1: at fourth down again? Love with Zeke at fullback again
Speaker 1: and getting stuffed through forth down? Why are we doing that?
Speaker 1: Don't forget the last player of the game. Don't forget
Speaker 1: the last play of the twenty twenty Hey man, how
Speaker 1: can you don't forget it? That's a boys the state
Speaker 1: played bro brocos we're doing bro. They I'm killing with
Speaker 1: this one. This is when we pulled out. That's when
Speaker 1: we pulled out. That's a it's a secret sheet with water.
Speaker 1: B Man had the notebook. Let's say, let's were killing
Speaker 1: with this. Wait till they see me at the part
Speaker 1: in this church. I was killing this out. No listen,
Speaker 1: and hey man, your quarterback ain't respond until you at
Speaker 1: this point, like the man behind the him, you ain't
Speaker 1: getting rid of him. No, he not responded. The man
Speaker 1: through a league leading number interceptions this year seven was seventeen.
Speaker 1: Up there, he never misfive games. The response, you're not responding, bro, Well,
Speaker 1: so what do what do they usually do? They say,
Speaker 1: we ain't getting we ain't doing nothing with the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Heck Ma Harrison, Yes, todos Berry Church Harrison,
Speaker 1: Danny mcra I am new he scruggs, all right, it's yes,
Speaker 1: no time, cowboy, unrestricted free agent. We'll start with your
Speaker 1: church work around the table a lineback. No, no, it's
Speaker 1: a round listen, Nah, Can I purpose this by saying this?
Speaker 1: My opinions are coming from dad. Quinn ain't gonna be here,
Speaker 1: so I think he's a dad to me, he's a
Speaker 1: dad queen. Why you gotta be like if this yes
Speaker 1: man quiz was here, I like some of these guys
Speaker 1: might be a yes. Some of them maybe the RB Yes, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what be yes. Some of these guys, I'm assuming
Speaker 1: they're gonna You're just gonna be yes. I had no
Speaker 1: contingent on him. Dan Quinby, I'm assuming he's not gonna
Speaker 1: be here. So that's how I'm answering he's not gonna
Speaker 1: got another interview with the Cardinals time. No, No, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm saying I'm assuming he ain't gonna be here.
Speaker 1: All right, fair that he stays Okay, I'm ahead. He's
Speaker 1: trying to play quarterback. Anthony Brown. M I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes, I'll be back. I'm gonna say no. Nah,
Speaker 1: Noah Brown wide receiver, Na, that's a rap. That's a rap. No. No,
Speaker 1: special teams not well not not that type of impact
Speaker 1: for him. Sorry, all right. On defense, Dante Fowler, Nah,
Speaker 1: he's a little too wild, a little too wild. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna gonna know there. Also, that's a no. Luke Gifford linebacker, Yes,
Speaker 1: special teams Ace, I'm gonna go know there as well.
Speaker 1: I'm with Barry. The more you can do. Yeah, special
Speaker 1: teams a C. J. Goodwin, gotta bring them back right, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a definite. Up the middle. Defensive tackle Jonathan Hankins.
Speaker 1: What year will it be for hangers like Nah? Nah,
Speaker 1: that's a no for me. Can I go d mac
Speaker 1: on this one? Yes? I if Dan was yes here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: keep him. He come with the house. He come with
Speaker 1: the house. I'm keeping Hankins. You gave it up on
Speaker 1: a very on a very minimum type deal. Yes, I
Speaker 1: keep him. White receiver t Y Hilton, Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: can get him on a low low deal, yeah, Yes,
Speaker 1: Oldell Beckham yes or no or t Y Hilton can't
Speaker 1: keep them both oldeal kicker bratt her No eighty six,
Speaker 1: he out of deuces, see you later, bye. It's a rap.
Speaker 1: Offensive lineman mc govern hi man, Yeah, gotta have depth
Speaker 1: along that off of the line. Yes, I'm keeping Connor.
Speaker 1: I'm keeping him. Yes, you need depth because we don't know,
Speaker 1: we don't know what we got. Long snapper Jake McQuaid. Yeah, yeah, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I'm keeping him. Yeah, it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Speaker 1: They made the mistake one time already, so listen. I
Speaker 1: mean he did get hurt and they brought in the
Speaker 1: other dude. But Overton, and that's that's where I'm going next.
Speaker 1: Matt Overton. Nah, I'm sorry. I don't need to m
Speaker 1: nah Offensive tackle forty plus Jason Peters Nah, thank you,
Speaker 1: Peter nah Man. I'm gonna wrap that up now. We're good.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Though that his mentorship, it was it was great.
Speaker 1: One day contract. So you want to retire Calful because
Speaker 1: he talked all that mess about the Eagles. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be like running back Tony Potter who had surgery
Speaker 1: today on that temper people, whatever you got to do
Speaker 1: to bring him back, whatever, y man, I don't know
Speaker 1: what that lad's gonna look like Man, I'm really yes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep Tony Pollard all right, I'm keeping fair, fair,
Speaker 1: at a fair cost, not whatever, not whatever you got
Speaker 1: to do, because like we reset, it was Zke then
Speaker 1: one before that, before that injury, I was helping. I
Speaker 1: was all in. Now I'm ten piece too much, ten piece,
Speaker 1: ten year? How much Zeke out of here? Sixteen? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean ten tens with the franchise. Yeah, that's fair price. Okay.
Speaker 1: A quarterback Cooper Rush, nah, no, I got draft somebody
Speaker 1: I give us free? Yeah, out of here, I'm keeping them.
Speaker 1: The man is a winner. It's hard to win. It's
Speaker 1: hard to win Rush, It's hard. It's somebody gonna give
Speaker 1: him more money. Somebody won't him. I'm just saying if
Speaker 1: you can keep, I'm just saying it's hard to win.
Speaker 1: Some people were back to like flitting out ahead of
Speaker 1: Chase Dad tight end Dalton Shoulder. That's tough. That's tough. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to lean towards No only because I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna want high dollar and I wouldn't do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in Carolina next year. Man, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kill him if I can, I say, Prices side,
Speaker 1: Prices side, Yes, I would keep Dalton Shouls. He was
Speaker 1: definitely a bright spottle on your squad this year and
Speaker 1: he's Dak's favorite target linebacker lake Van Drash Damn glad
Speaker 1: you're going first, Yes, because you gotta have somebody to
Speaker 1: mentor them those young linebackers in there. So I'm saying yes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes. I wouldn't have I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: thought that I would be saying this last year this time,
Speaker 1: but he definitely proved his worth in this defense, so
Speaker 1: he might but should have been one of those guys
Speaker 1: if Dan Quinn stated I said that, but anyway, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes. Anyways, I think the words that
Speaker 1: we had about his health or pretty much gone. Even
Speaker 1: miss one game had a stinger. I didn't think he
Speaker 1: was gonna be doing this. So yeah, defensive tackle Carlos Watkins.
Speaker 1: You know what he performs well, especially in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: So I'm yeah, more depth gotta have, you know, So
Speaker 1: I gotta love for Carlos. I thought he did some
Speaker 1: good things, so I said keep ninety one. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say keeper, man, we've been looking for guys on the
Speaker 1: D line. I've seen Hankins and Carlos Watkins. If that's
Speaker 1: what you starting off with and going to dress from
Speaker 1: guys and the last unrestricted free agent, Donovan Wilson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you gotta keep the enforcer. I mean the
Speaker 1: way he comes down and thumps cat. I mean it's yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep the enforcing. It's gonna be It's gonna
Speaker 1: have to be at the right price for me. I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's he does all the enforcer stuff that
Speaker 1: you're talking about. I love it. We needed that hard
Speaker 1: hitting ability. But y'all know he a liability in the
Speaker 1: passing game. You know that, So it's gotta be at
Speaker 1: the right price. Yeah, right price. But I'm yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: keeping him just you know, like I said, he's he's
Speaker 1: an enforced on your defense and that that does play
Speaker 1: dividends in today's game for you being able to do
Speaker 1: it and not get penalized and kicked out the game.
Speaker 1: Question and two restricted free agency, I expect them to
Speaker 1: get contracts with Rick O'Donnell running back and Terrence Steal
Speaker 1: the back. There you go, right there? Um, Tyren Smith back, No,
Speaker 1: because you said left tackle for Tyler Smith. Y'all know
Speaker 1: he bring. If Terrence Still is back, y'all know he
Speaker 1: comes and Tyren Smith is back, that puts my man
Speaker 1: in left guard. Is Tyren Smith back, He's gonna leave
Speaker 1: when he Who's gonna be a left guard? Tyler? Tyler's
Speaker 1: going the left guard. If Terrence Still is back at
Speaker 1: right tackle, Tyrans they playing guard, Tyren Smith may playing guard,
Speaker 1: So where's he go left tackle? That plus Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: and and Zach Martin at our guard. But let's just
Speaker 1: say this man, Tyler Smith would be back out of
Speaker 1: left tackle in no time. You don't want to ask
Speaker 1: ask you. I asked you, Robert right at you, I
Speaker 1: asked you to come to Tyrons back next season. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's back playing starting left tackle for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: No pay, he'll be at right tackle. Because I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the time injury for for Terence Still to get back.
Speaker 1: That's why I think that would be especially for the
Speaker 1: first game. Um, who's his backup there? Because he missed
Speaker 1: the whole season. So what do you do? Well, Tyrant
Speaker 1: missed the whole season, Terran Still might not be ready
Speaker 1: for the whole season, So so you've got you've got
Speaker 1: obviously Tyrn Smith and then Matt wi LESCo was a
Speaker 1: guy they liked and um, shoulder kept popping out Ye
Speaker 1: surgery forgot about I think, well, let's go is probably
Speaker 1: higher on your list for Josh Baul and Josh Baul
Speaker 1: may just be it may just be, hey, we tried,
Speaker 1: we didn't work out. Um, so he'll he's he's going
Speaker 1: into his third year. I mean there's a couple of
Speaker 1: guys going into third year where they they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to see something and the darselves and Tom Langie said
Speaker 1: we got to see something by year three. Um, I
Speaker 1: think so much different now with offensive line talent man
Speaker 1: because they just don't come a dime a dozen like
Speaker 1: other positions. So I see that's why teams are reluctant
Speaker 1: to cut offensive linement. You got to be pretty bad.
Speaker 1: Cut Josh Ball. He was pretty bad, Kelvin Joseph. These
Speaker 1: are guys here, Okay, a year three, we need to
Speaker 1: see something here. And if we're not seeing something then
Speaker 1: then yeah, it's probably gonna you probably may find yourself
Speaker 1: at work. UM. Speaking to Anthony Brown, who I saw
Speaker 1: there during the playoffs, he was he was I think
Speaker 1: durn Bland may make him expendable from the standpoint that
Speaker 1: you say, all right, can we go back in the
Speaker 1: draft and find another durn Bland at lower cost versus
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown plush Jordan Lewis right paying the money. And
Speaker 1: you know, I just I just see Anthony Brown because
Speaker 1: of the injury, being a guy that they let go
Speaker 1: to say hey, we got as you said, we've got
Speaker 1: Lewis coming back, We've got durn Bland, and then we'll
Speaker 1: we'll hope Kell and Joseph ken improve and also just
Speaker 1: looking to draft for younger player. And I think you're
Speaker 1: excited about the run Bland. He's not one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean just by the way that he played. Yes,
Speaker 1: he made some mistakes, make some rookie mistakes. I'm sure
Speaker 1: Church you can speak to that, um, but his upside
Speaker 1: is pretty high. And you know, I didn't think that
Speaker 1: his absence, Brown's absence would he would be so sorely missed.
Speaker 1: But man, once we started dealing with number one, with Kelvin,
Speaker 1: Joseph and just trying to find somebody to fit into
Speaker 1: that role, it just turned into an event that I
Speaker 1: didn't think. I don't think anybody thought it would be
Speaker 1: this hard to replace him. I don't know about y'all.
Speaker 1: Three man, y'all just based off what y'all said, I'll
Speaker 1: receive in court next year. It's tired, uh, t Y Hilton,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup and CD Lamb. Yeah, don't forget you, y'all.
Speaker 1: So we okay, that's what we're at. So we just
Speaker 1: talked about the Eagles. We just talked about the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: but were trading somebody somebody getting up. Ye were keeping
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton. We know Michael Gallup gonna be here
Speaker 1: and CD is both y'all friends. That's that's the that's
Speaker 1: so based off what happened. I was a year about
Speaker 1: that's our receiver. Okay? Is there all right? Is there
Speaker 1: a new receivers coach next year? Man? We didn't he
Speaker 1: receive verse? Like I said, is there a new receiver?
Speaker 1: Did we just replace our receiver? Got a lot out
Speaker 1: of Noah Brown, especially as the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1: You got a lot out of guys. CD Lamb came
Speaker 1: out as a young guy had had the year that
Speaker 1: we that we hope they would have um. But your
Speaker 1: receivering corp next year. T Y Hilton, Michael Gallant Courtney.
Speaker 1: Y'all lamb, So we listen people, I don't agree. We've
Speaker 1: got a long way to go before the rapt turpin.
Speaker 1: Think who, by the way, should be getting more action?
Speaker 1: Should be? I saw the kid played TC. This is
Speaker 1: a guy who definitely should be in the passing game more.
Speaker 1: But it picked twenty six Ohio state wide receiver Jackson
Speaker 1: Smith and jack who's from Who's from here? Dfwu native
Speaker 1: hamstring injuries hurting this year. But go back and just
Speaker 1: turn on that Rose Bowl tape, Turn on that take
Speaker 1: he had against Michigan. This this guy is good. I
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys have had issues in terms of taking
Speaker 1: hurt dudes. He's the He's the hurt dude that you take.
Speaker 1: But at twenty if he if he is healthy, he's
Speaker 1: not twenty, He's not twenty six. Hamstrings letting the hamstrings
Speaker 1: a little if you thought, man, Miles Austin knows, you
Speaker 1: know when you get them hamstrings. I had him, I know,
Speaker 1: I know myself. Once I pulled one, I was done.
Speaker 1: Felt the same guys. Check that it now buried him
Speaker 1: to be golfing and stuff. You're in a group, chat
Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, I only got another saving Jersey. I
Speaker 1: know sounds like a no hug brother, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He did something you had, like he sickles. Over play
Speaker 1: forward comes to the alter Alter call for him, Johnny Man,
Speaker 1: I got to do with me? Pray for man? Right,
Speaker 1: you know you ain't supposed to be. I got the memo.
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