WEBVTT - Influenced with Ali Grant 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.039 Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:13.080 Hello, everybody, we are scrubbing in scrub a dub dub today. 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.000 Today's guest is very, very special. 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.720 You could call our friend of the show. She's a 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.560 best friend. She's a show, a best friend of the show. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.760 She's a best friend of life. 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:26.920 Yes, in life. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:31.520 Yes, she's a businesswoman, she's an entrepreneur, she's a boss. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:35.000 She's just a modern woman. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:36.440 If you will, a modern woman, if you will. 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:38.519 And I can't believe this is the first time she's 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:39.560 on Scrubbing In, but. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:41.559 And hopefully the first of many. We want to have 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:43.400 more of our friends come on, so please, that's right. 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.720 Let us know if you enjoy today's day episode here 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:48.760 and if you don't, don't let us know. 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:53.720 Yeah yeah, but without further ado, we are so happy 0:00:53.880 --> 0:01:02.160 to welcome Allie, Allie grand Welcome to Scrubbing Income. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:04.560 So honored to be here. 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.920 Like this is crazy, A long time coming, seven years basically. 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.600 Yeah, I was gonna say six, but I guess it's 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:11.640 we're approaching seven. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.759 Approaching seven. Wow, almost a decade. 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.160 A decade of scrubbing in. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:17.039 That's crazy. 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:18.560 It just felt like this was the right time to 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:24.760 have you though, because y'all are both in a wedding 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.199 planning season. Yes, your friends. Now, there was a time 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:37.240 where y'all were like just an of me acquaintances. 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.560 Yeah, like we were your best friends, but we didn't 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.119 have our own relationship correct, And now we. 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.360 Do, Yes, now we do. We had a big turning moment. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.320 Yeah, and I don't really remember what I remember that conversation, 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.280 of course, was what happened? 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:51.160 What did I say? 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:52.000 You don't remember that? 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.440 I really don't. My memory is like I have a 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:55.919 worst memory. When did it happen? 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.720 I want to say it was one of JoJo's Cupshi launches. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:06.760 It was at that restaurant. It was the first one, Yeah, 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:07.800 the first one ever. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.680 And it's true you were you were beck as best friend, 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.200 I was beck as best friends, but we were not intertwined. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.400 And we had this like breakthrough conversation. I believe we 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:18.720 both had like a drink in us. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.440 Yeah, drink or too, I'm sure, and it. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.440 Was like we just had this breakthrough moment of we 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.640 didn't really get along because you had told me and 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.320 I said, I said, I felt like you were all 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:29.079 business like. 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:30.600 Yeah, okay, I remember that. 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.920 I was like, I felt like all you cared about 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.160 was business. You had no interest in like being my. 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:36.640 Friend, zero about business. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.280 It's all a fac but it's but you even admitted 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.480 you were like I think I was so just like 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.720 tunnel vision for so long, and like you were like, 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:46.640 I don't know what has happened to me, but you 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.639 were saying you have this like honest say come to 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.960 Jesus moment, but like you have like some sort of 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.480 life epiphany, and like we just totally like put it 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.440 all out there. And then from that moment on, we 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.679 like sparked our own friendship. 0:02:58.880 --> 0:02:59.280 Yeah. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:03.359 But then I walked up to the conversation and one 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.800 of the I think Tony was like, we're friends now, 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.720 and I was like, okay, we're y'all y'all weren't friends 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.080 and she was like, well, like we're we're like friends, 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.639 like we're gonna actually so that was exciting. 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.120 Yeah, it was blossomed since then. 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.680 Yeah, now I like text you without her on it? 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.280 Yeah we ever, Actually y'all do that I have to 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.480 ask you to text each other without me on it 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:29.320 because you'll text. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.280 Y'all say, like for like a long time. 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.280 And I'm like, hey, can y'all move this out to 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.360 your personal one on one. 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.840 Chat and bye? 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:41.360 It's really a. 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.200 Full circle we've come, Yeah, and I love it for us. 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.280 You're right, Becca, like we are both at were brides 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.360 to be. Yeah, so we're in like the same era. 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:52.560 Like like if. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.320 You would have asked me when I first met you, 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:56.200 if you guys were already best friends, if you were 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:57.920 to say that I was going to come to your 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:02.200 bachelor party, I would have thought, hell no, not in hell. 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:06.640 Not Hell is very different than hell no. 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:08.720 But why not hell? 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:09.400 Why? Yeah? 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.120 Because we just weren't friends. Yeah, you know you were 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.000 saying we would become that close. Yeah, you know. 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.120 It's always interesting. I think I saw like a meme 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.560 about this. It's like you have this like special respect 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.680 for like your best friend's best friend, right, And it's 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.280 like I felt like I had that for you, but 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.960 we like just didn't ever like intertwine, right, And I 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.800 agree with you. You probably would have never thought that 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.240 right at all. But I think actually beca you made 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.560 sort of like a move, if you will. You invited 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:43.080 me to her thirty fifth, thirty sixth birthday party. 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:44.479 Do you remember that? 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.160 Or I just it was just last year. 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.560 Yeah, like to Robbie, did Robbie invite me? I don't know. 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.320 I was there Sonny's birthday. No, no, my birthday. 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.080 It was like my only closest friends. It was last year, 0:04:56.160 --> 0:05:00.000 last July. Oh my god, Oh my god talking. 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.479 Why were we really? 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:03.320 Yeah? 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:07.920 Yeah yeah, And I felt like that also felt like hey, 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:08.599 I'm here. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.880 Yeah, you know, I have arrived. I have arrived. 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:15.280 That was like my closest closest like that was but 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.760 I'm saying that was like that was it. That was 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.480 like just my closest closest friends and I have like 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.080 a birthday party was literally just like dinner. Yeah. Yeah. 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.000 The people, the people do want to know. You know, 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:30.720 Tany is very vocal about her I want to say 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:37.760 jealousy being territorial over jealousy, and Chelsea's accurate, and people 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.760 want to know if you feel the same way about 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.080 my friendship with other people? 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:49.000 No, okay, So no, I'm a very I'm so like independent, 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:50.760 Like I'm the type of person that could just like 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.839 sit in my room all day and like not talk 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:56.880 to anyone, like similar to you, Becca, Like I'm shocked 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:58.719 we talk every day because like I feel like both 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.599 of us could like never talk to each other, but 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:01.440 somehow we do. 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:06.080 But no, I don't have that. I just don't. I 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.000 don't know. I've had it with like. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.520 Boyfriends in the past and things like that, but it's 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.520 like the same, but not in female friendships. 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.680 Interesting, I don't know. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.520 I feel like I get what I need from Becca 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.200 as a friend, and like I don't. 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:20.160 I don't know. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.400 Oh you never Okay, that's interesting because I do have 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:23.920 a thing with it, like I always need more. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.200 Yeah, but you need more from everybody. 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:27.080 That's not just me. 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.640 Yeah, So it's not just like as just being a 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:30.400 contentment thing. 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:36.840 It's not about me in therapy, about Ali grand So 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.640 since we're in the friendship conversation, a lot of people 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.320 want to know how you and I met. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.000 People don't know our origin story. 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.120 So should we just tell them the truth about why 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.440 we look alike and how we know each other so well. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:56.479 Our DNA tests. Yay, we're sisters, actual sisters. We're very 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:57.360 distant cousins. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:06:59.280 I don't believe it at all. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:03.479 She has family from Louisiana, yeah, and I'm from Louisiana, 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:04.600 and we discovered that. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.400 We have First of all, you met in San Diego, right, Okay. 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.400 Also, she don't meet to tell a story. Yeah, your 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.160 your perspective, your perspective. Okay. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:18.760 So this was like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen een. 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:23.560 Ye, you're like twenty seven years old, twenty six, twenty six. 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.600 I was twenty six. She tries to claim she's like 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.840 like a year younger than. You're ten months younger than. Anyways, 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:33.160 when we met, I was twenty six and you were 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:33.720 twenty seven. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.240 I think we're bout twenty six. Anyways, So we were 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:41.040 in San Diego. You were coming off The Bachelor. I 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:42.920 had just come off Ben season of the Bachelor, Ben 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:47.000 season of the Bachelor, and you were starting to do partnerships, 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.360 sugar bear hair like all of those things. I had 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.280 my business be social where I was like wrapping influencers 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:54.680 and like helping them monetize. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:56.720 Well, so you had that before. For some reason, I 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.120 thought you started it with an You think. 0:07:59.000 --> 0:07:59.880 Bank I was an owner. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.000 She does say, no, not the owner, but that you 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.040 like started the business like she was your launching pad. 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:11.680 No, had clients. It's already a business for okay a year. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.720 Or two Okay, Yeah, I don't have the curve. 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.240 Yeah, I was I was like twenty four when I 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:16.720 started it. 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:17.480 That's crazy. 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.000 That's another we got to get into the business. But 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.440 Becca was a huge launching pad for me. I feel 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.320 like getting into The Bachelor Nation was like huge for 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:29.600 the like influencer business. But we had a mutual friend 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:33.120 named Cole who's a photographer and what she like you 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:34.600 met her with through church or something. 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:36.439 Yeah, when I was in San Diego. We had I 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.559 don't even think we met. We knew mutual people and 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:44.520 maybe we had met once, but she had just started photography, right, 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:45.400 and wanted to shoot me. 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.160 And then she was like, what are you wanting to 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.080 do with your life? 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.400 Your life other than have a friend you should meet? 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.520 Yeah, And so I think she texted me, do you 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:58.280 want to meet this girl? Knew nothing about like The Bachelor, 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:00.240 Like I'm not like, I don't really watch it show. 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.280 I didn't really. The only reason I did know her name, though, 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.320 is because I lived in San Diego at the time 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.120 and you lived in San Diego at the time, and 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.160 when you were on the shows like I'm from San Diego, 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.440 right or something. Yeah, I would like walk into stores 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.480 and people would be like, oh my gosh, are you Becka? 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.400 From the Bachelor, like they thought you looked like her. Yes, 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.319 like literally thought I was her. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.800 I got text messages from like so many friends from 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.600 college that were like, is she your cousin? 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:23.960 Is that? 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:24.160 Like? 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.680 Who is that your sister? Like I was like, I 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.160 have no idea what you're talking about. So I did 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:34.360 like know of her because of that, But yeah, it 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.160 was like down to meet her. I think at the time, 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.520 you had like three hundred thousand followers or something like that, 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.360 which is crazy, Like you got you had what how many. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:46.040 Before zero twelve? Yeah, when you're a normal person. 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.600 Yeah, yeah, you had like a thousand, and then you 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:53.720 have three hundred thousand, Like that's so ry overnight, literally 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.040 and you had no idea what to do with it. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:56.640 I'm sure. Well, no, it wasn't. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:01.040 There was no what I do now you do wasn't 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:05.079 really a big thing, especially in the reality TV world. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.080 So nowadays I feel like people are chomping at the 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.760 bit managers and agencies to talk to the girls from 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:11.320 the Bachelor. 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.360 But when I was on there, no, there was nothing 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:14.640 like that. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.680 Yeah, yeah a trail blazer you were. 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:19.880 Yeah, I mean I think, I mean, I guess I 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.280 owe this all to Coal, which is like, I need 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:26.360 to tell her that more often. Thank you, Cole. And 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.120 what we met like in Orange County for some reason, 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:30.240 I don't remember why. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.760 Y'all were down there, and you're you repped Kitlin Carter. 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:38.360 You still rep Kaitlin Carter. Yeah, and Kelsey White and 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.880 they were shooting with Coal and we all went to 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:41.560 dinner together. 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.840 Yeah, and we had like a first meeting. Yeah, and 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:47.840 we talked about what you wanted to do, and I 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.880 was like, yeah, I can do that. What'd you think 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.440 of me initially just a business woman? 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.880 No, No, that's me. 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:01.480 No, I had so when I talked to I started thinking, oh, 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.760 maybe I should meet with some man or maybe it 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:05.840 was Amy who told me I should meet with some 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:07.439 people in the industry and just figure out what I 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.120 want to do. So I met with a few different 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.960 management companies and I just it felt very serious and 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.560 like corporate, and I thought, Okay, I've never done this, 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.360 Maybe this is what it's supposed to feel like. But 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.040 then when I met you, I felt different, and I 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.400 was like, oh, I think yeah, I felt like a friendship. 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:25.079 It did. 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.800 It felt like like instantly, like we're like giggling and 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.320 laughing and like had the same humor, and yeah. 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:32.880 It felt very easy. 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:36.080 But I also felt very confident in in you and 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:41.559 what you did, and so I signed and never rest's history. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.120 I mean, it's very rare, I think for someone to 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:45.480 stay with a company. 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.559 Yeah, we've been literally working together for ten years. Yeah 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:51.560 well not ten wait how long? 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:52.480 Well that. 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.800 She's so got years nine. 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:04.720 Years and I I I think that you know, it's 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.640 interesting because I work with you and I work with you, 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.280 and it's it's normally they say, like, don't work with 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:14.280 your best friends, but I think because we're best friends, 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.240 it's made the work so much more enjoyable and fun. 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:22.720 We've had like amazing times together working and playing. Basically 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.440 that's so interesting actually that both of you work with 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.640 both of your best friends, Like you're in business with 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:28.840 both of your best friends. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:31.640 I think that the thing is I think you're the 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:36.080 through line though. That makes it like good because I 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:37.960 think you are you know what I mean Like that, 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.520 I think if you had two people that were like 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:42.600 if you and I tried to work together, it would 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:47.280 probably be like hell, but you know what I mean, 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.640 like two very intense people, but like Beck is more 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.600 chill and like laid back, and I think it just 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:52.200 like works. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.280 Yeah, that is so true, you are like, but she 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.240 also can be fiery, like we both know, like the 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.480 fiery side of yeah, like the stinger. 0:12:59.640 --> 0:12:59.880 Yeah. 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.760 And I think it's like you know what you deserve 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.640 and like how you should be valued and like all 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.280 those things, and you stand out for yourself definitely, Like 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.280 it's not all just like fun all the time, right, 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.479 Like I feel like you fight for yourself and business situations. 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:14.040 Yeah, but I. 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:17.560 Feel like I do feel like because you're I don't 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.360 know if people realize this. Ali's my manager, so she 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.440 handles all of my brand deals. She handles anything that 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:28.319 I am getting compensated for. If I get an opportunity, 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.200 it's through Ali and her company, which is now the 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:35.280 Digital Department. And it can be very tedious of like, 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.679 you know, because as my manager, you make a commission 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:42.240 on what I say yes to. So if there's something 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.520 that comes in and I'm like, no, I don't want 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.880 to do it, yeah, it's you know that balance of. 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.640 It's money off my plate right right right right, which 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.480 it is, and I feel like I'm good about that though, 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.199 like I let you say no and I'm not weird 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.960 about it, and I feel like that's been your success. 0:13:58.040 --> 0:13:59.880 It's like you say yes to the right things and 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:01.520 look at you now, Well. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:02.160 That's what I was going to say. 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:03.960 I think the biggest piece of advice you gave me 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.280 was we're not going to say yes to things that 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.720 you don't want to do or don't feel good about doing. 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.320 And I think had I not signed with you and 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:19.000 just had Veronica running, do people know I've talked about Veronica, 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:20.920 but not everyone knows who Veronica is? 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:22.680 Explain it. 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.880 When I first got off the first season of the Bachelor, 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.680 when I was on Christ the season, my friend told 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:32.440 me that I should have an assistant email that brands. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.440 I don't know her name, her name was, said that 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:37.160 it was my friend Crystal. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.560 Crystal okay, yeah yeah, And she had a friend who 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.160 was a blogger at the time, and she was like, yeah, 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.720 she just uses this email to work with brands and 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.160 you can negotiate for yourself and that way they don't 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.640 feel it's not directly you. You can hide behind kind 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:52.200 of like the email of negotiating. So my assistant same 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:52.920 was Veronica. 0:14:53.000 --> 0:15:00.320 Carter me. I love Bald myself so much. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.280 How much did you get paid for your first deal 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:03.720 when Veronica represented you. 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:06.240 Well, I couldn't believe. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.080 You have to understand, I came off The Bachelor, and 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.320 all of a sudden, I was getting sent free stuff 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:13.920 and all I had to do was post a photo 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:14.200 of it. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:18.320 Like my brain was like, what is that? Overdrive? 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.680 So I'm getting free clothes and all they want in 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.840 return is a photo. So then when I started getting 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.720 the free stuff and getting paid for it, I couldn't 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.600 even believe it. So I was like, I was just 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.560 trying to make enough that I could pay my rent 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.160 and have extra money. So I was like in the 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.960 like one thousand range, and that was. 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:37.640 Kind of. 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.320 Definitely I could have been making more, but I wasn't, 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:43.920 you know, sure. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.640 And so you would like sign the email like that. 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.640 Told me this trick when I wanted to start doing 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.200 brand deal. She was like, just make a fake email 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:54.960 account and be your own assistant. And I was like, 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:56.040 did you do it? 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:56.280 No? 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:56.960 I couldn't do it. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.000 Okay, I wasn't very I wasn't very good negotiation. 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.760 And so then when Ali came in and I was 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:06.080 with be Social at the time, which was be Social, 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.360 and I saw what Ali was negotiating for my rates. 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.480 I was flabber astid. Yeah, and also like dang. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:18.000 I really missed a lot of opportunity to make money here. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:23.280 But yeah, it's it's been such a fun journey. But 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:27.000 I want to talk about you starting this company because 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:29.200 you were fresh out of college. 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.960 Yeah, I had like I had a job before. I 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.160 worked as a social media agency for like a year 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.440 or so, but yeah, that was like my only working experience. 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:39.280 Just crazy. 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.560 And how did you have the vision to create your 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.000 own company at that age? 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.240 I don't know, like honestly, like watching Samantha Jones and 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.480 Sex and the City and like that, I don't know. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:49.440 How did you do it? 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:49.760 Did you? 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.920 Like Google? Like how do I start a company? Like 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.040 how how did you do the infrastructure? Like you you 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.320 get an LLC and then you start, you get employees 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:58.680 and you start paying them, Like how do you know 0:16:58.680 --> 0:16:59.280 how to do all this? 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:00.520 I did? Really? 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.120 And like that's my biggest piece of advice is like 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.480 try and attach yourself to people who do get it, 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.480 or get like a mentor if you can in this space. 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.040 And I really didn't have that. My uncle is a 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.879 CPA's an accountant, so he really like guided me in 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.080 the beginning of like how to set up the LLC. 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:17.960 My dad's friend was a lawyer. He helped me with that, 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.359 so it's kind of like family connections to get it 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.119 off the ground. I didn't know what I was doing, Like, 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.760 it was just like absolute chaos. It was just like 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.199 and I was growing while trying to build it, so 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.560 it was just like it was insanity. But yeah, like googling, 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.719 I think I got like literally one of those like 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.000 for dummies books. 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:35.800 I'm talking about. 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.280 Yeah, I mean, now there's so much resource about this, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.919 Like there's like girl Boss, there's creat and Cultivate, like 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.240 there's all these things that you can get information on. 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.560 Like honestly, back then nine ten years ago, there was 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.119 not a lot. And I feel like when I told people, oh, 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.520 I'm going to quit my job and start a business, 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.640 people were like, you're insane, Like why. 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.080 It was also like when you do that, you don't 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.639