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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, we are scrubbing in scrub a dub dub today.

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Speaker 3: Today's guest is very, very special.

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Speaker 2: You could call our friend of the show. She's a

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Speaker 2: best friend. She's a show, a best friend of the show.

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Speaker 2: She's a best friend of life.

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Speaker 3: Yes, in life.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she's a businesswoman, she's an entrepreneur, she's a boss.

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Speaker 3: She's just a modern woman.

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Speaker 1: If you will, a modern woman, if you will.

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Speaker 3: And I can't believe this is the first time she's

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Speaker 3: on Scrubbing In, but.

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Speaker 1: And hopefully the first of many. We want to have

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Speaker 1: more of our friends come on, so please, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Let us know if you enjoy today's day episode here

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Speaker 1: and if you don't, don't let us know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but without further ado, we are so happy

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Speaker 2: to welcome Allie, Allie grand Welcome to Scrubbing Income.

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Speaker 3: So honored to be here.

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Speaker 4: Like this is crazy, A long time coming, seven years basically.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say six, but I guess it's

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Speaker 2: we're approaching seven.

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Speaker 1: Approaching seven. Wow, almost a decade.

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Speaker 3: A decade of scrubbing in.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It just felt like this was the right time to

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Speaker 2: have you though, because y'all are both in a wedding

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Speaker 2: planning season. Yes, your friends. Now, there was a time

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Speaker 2: where y'all were like just an of me acquaintances.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like we were your best friends, but we didn't

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Speaker 4: have our own relationship correct, And now we.

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Speaker 1: Do, Yes, now we do. We had a big turning moment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't really remember what I remember that conversation,

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Speaker 4: of course, was what happened?

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Speaker 3: What did I say?

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Speaker 1: You don't remember that?

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Speaker 3: I really don't. My memory is like I have a

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Speaker 3: worst memory. When did it happen?

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Speaker 1: I want to say it was one of JoJo's Cupshi launches.

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Speaker 3: It was at that restaurant. It was the first one, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the first one ever.

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Speaker 1: And it's true you were you were beck as best friend,

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Speaker 1: I was beck as best friends, but we were not intertwined.

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Speaker 1: And we had this like breakthrough conversation. I believe we

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Speaker 1: both had like a drink in us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, drink or too, I'm sure, and it.

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Speaker 1: Was like we just had this breakthrough moment of we

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Speaker 1: didn't really get along because you had told me and

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Speaker 1: I said, I said, I felt like you were all

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Speaker 1: business like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I remember that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I felt like all you cared about

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Speaker 1: was business. You had no interest in like being my.

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Speaker 3: Friend, zero about business.

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Speaker 1: It's all a fac but it's but you even admitted

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Speaker 1: you were like I think I was so just like

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Speaker 1: tunnel vision for so long, and like you were like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what has happened to me, but you

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Speaker 1: were saying you have this like honest say come to

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Speaker 1: Jesus moment, but like you have like some sort of

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Speaker 1: life epiphany, and like we just totally like put it

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Speaker 1: all out there. And then from that moment on, we

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Speaker 1: like sparked our own friendship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But then I walked up to the conversation and one

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Speaker 2: of the I think Tony was like, we're friends now,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, we're y'all y'all weren't friends

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Speaker 2: and she was like, well, like we're we're like friends,

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Speaker 2: like we're gonna actually so that was exciting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was blossomed since then.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now I like text you without her on it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah we ever, Actually y'all do that I have to

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Speaker 2: ask you to text each other without me on it

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Speaker 2: because you'll text.

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Speaker 3: Y'all say, like for like a long time.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, hey, can y'all move this out to

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Speaker 2: your personal one on one.

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Speaker 1: Chat and bye?

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Speaker 3: It's really a.

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Speaker 4: Full circle we've come, Yeah, and I love it for us.

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Speaker 4: You're right, Becca, like we are both at were brides

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Speaker 4: to be. Yeah, so we're in like the same era.

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Speaker 4: Like like if.

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Speaker 1: You would have asked me when I first met you,

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Speaker 1: if you guys were already best friends, if you were

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Speaker 1: bachelor party, I would have thought, hell no, not in hell.

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Speaker 3: Not Hell is very different than hell no.

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Speaker 1: But why not hell?

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Speaker 3: Why? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Because we just weren't friends. Yeah, you know you were

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Speaker 1: saying we would become that close. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 4: It's always interesting. I think I saw like a meme

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Speaker 4: about this. It's like you have this like special respect

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Speaker 4: for like your best friend's best friend, right, And it's

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Speaker 4: like I felt like I had that for you, but

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Speaker 4: we like just didn't ever like intertwine, right, And I

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Speaker 4: agree with you. You probably would have never thought that

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Speaker 4: right at all. But I think actually beca you made

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Speaker 4: sort of like a move, if you will. You invited

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Speaker 4: me to her thirty fifth, thirty sixth birthday party.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember that?

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Speaker 1: Or I just it was just last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like to Robbie, did Robbie invite me? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I was there Sonny's birthday. No, no, my birthday.

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Speaker 1: It was like my only closest friends. It was last year,

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Speaker 1: last July. Oh my god, Oh my god talking.

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Speaker 3: Why were we really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And I felt like that also felt like hey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I have arrived. I have arrived.

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Speaker 1: That was like my closest closest like that was but

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that was like that was it. That was

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Speaker 1: like just my closest closest friends and I have like

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Speaker 1: a birthday party was literally just like dinner. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The people, the people do want to know. You know,

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Speaker 2: Tany is very vocal about her I want to say

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Speaker 2: jealousy being territorial over jealousy, and Chelsea's accurate, and people

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Speaker 2: want to know if you feel the same way about

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Speaker 2: my friendship with other people?

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Speaker 4: No, okay, So no, I'm a very I'm so like independent,

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Speaker 4: Like I'm the type of person that could just like

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Speaker 4: to anyone, like similar to you, Becca, Like I'm shocked

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Speaker 4: we talk every day because like I feel like both

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Speaker 3: But no, I don't have that. I just don't. I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I've had it with like.

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Speaker 4: Boyfriends in the past and things like that, but it's

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Speaker 4: like the same, but not in female friendships.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I get what I need from Becca

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Speaker 4: as a friend, and like I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Oh you never Okay, that's interesting because I do have

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Speaker 1: a thing with it, like I always need more.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you need more from everybody.

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Speaker 3: That's not just me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's not just like as just being a

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Speaker 1: It's not about me in therapy, about Ali grand So

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Speaker 1: since we're in the friendship conversation, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: want to know how you and I met.

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Speaker 3: People don't know our origin story.

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Speaker 2: So should we just tell them the truth about why

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Speaker 2: we look alike and how we know each other so well.

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Speaker 3: Our DNA tests. Yay, we're sisters, actual sisters. We're very

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Speaker 3: distant cousins.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it at all.

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Speaker 2: She has family from Louisiana, yeah, and I'm from Louisiana,

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Speaker 2: and we discovered that.

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Speaker 1: We have First of all, you met in San Diego, right, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Also, she don't meet to tell a story. Yeah, your

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Speaker 4: So this was like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen een.

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Speaker 3: Ye, you're like twenty seven years old, twenty six, twenty six.

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Speaker 3: I was twenty six. She tries to claim she's like

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Speaker 3: like a year younger than. You're ten months younger than. Anyways,

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Speaker 4: I think we're bout twenty six. Anyways, So we were

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Speaker 4: in San Diego. You were coming off The Bachelor. I

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Speaker 4: had just come off Ben season of the Bachelor, Ben

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Speaker 4: season of the Bachelor, and you were starting to do partnerships,

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Speaker 4: sugar bear hair like all of those things. I had

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Speaker 4: my business be social where I was like wrapping influencers

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Speaker 4: and like helping them monetize.

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Speaker 1: Well, so you had that before. For some reason, I

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Speaker 3: Bank I was an owner.

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Speaker 1: She does say, no, not the owner, but that you

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Speaker 4: No, had clients. It's already a business for okay a year.

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Speaker 1: Or two Okay, Yeah, I don't have the curve.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was I was like twenty four when I

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Speaker 4: That's another we got to get into the business. But

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Speaker 4: Becca was a huge launching pad for me. I feel

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Speaker 4: like getting into The Bachelor Nation was like huge for

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Speaker 4: the like influencer business. But we had a mutual friend

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was in San Diego. We had I

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Speaker 2: don't even think we met. We knew mutual people and

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Speaker 3: And then she was like, what are you wanting to

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Speaker 5: Your life other than have a friend you should meet?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I think she texted me, do you

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Speaker 4: want to meet this girl? Knew nothing about like The Bachelor,

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Speaker 4: Like I'm not like, I don't really watch it show.

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Speaker 4: I didn't really. The only reason I did know her name, though,

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Speaker 4: and people would be like, oh my gosh, are you Becka?

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Speaker 3: From the Bachelor, like they thought you looked like her. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I got text messages from like so many friends from

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Speaker 4: college that were like, is she your cousin?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 4: Who is that your sister? Like I was like, I

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Speaker 4: like know of her because of that, But yeah, it

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Speaker 4: you had like three hundred thousand followers or something like that,

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Speaker 4: which is crazy, Like you got you had what how many.

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Speaker 3: Before zero twelve? Yeah, when you're a normal person.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you had like a thousand, and then you

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Speaker 4: and you had no idea what to do with it.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure. Well, no, it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: There was no what I do now you do wasn't

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Speaker 2: So nowadays I feel like people are chomping at the

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's very rare, I think for someone to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been literally working together for ten years. Yeah

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Speaker 4: And I think it's like you know what you deserve

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Speaker 2: Feel like I do feel like because you're I don't

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Speaker 4: like I let you say no and I'm not weird

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Speaker 4: It's like you say yes to the right things and

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Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say.

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Speaker 3: Explain it.

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Speaker 2: When I first got off the first season of the Bachelor,

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Speaker 1: I don't know her name, her name was, said that

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Speaker 3: Carter me. I love Bald myself so much.

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Speaker 4: How much did you get paid for your first deal

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Speaker 3: Like my brain was like, what is that? Overdrive?

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Speaker 2: Definitely I could have been making more, but I wasn't,

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Speaker 3: And so you would like sign the email like that.

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Speaker 2: I really missed a lot of opportunity to make money here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had like I had a job before. I

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Speaker 4: I don't know, like honestly, like watching Samantha Jones and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, now there's so much resource about this,

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Speaker 4: Like honestly, back then nine ten years ago, there was

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Speaker 1: It was also like when you do that, you don't

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Speaker 1: And creating like an email like pitch email, like all

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Speaker 4: See I like that stuff, Like I love writing and

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Speaker 4: to say, like not peer bar, but it was an

447
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Speaker 4: extend bar.

448
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Speaker 3: Do you guys even know what that is?

449
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:05,120
Speaker 1: Now?

450
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Speaker 3: Extend bar, extend bar.

451
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 4: It was like a bar studio, like a peer bar,

452
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,160
Speaker 4: and they were basically franchising them out and opening like

453
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,919
Speaker 4: a million studios. And they came to me and they're like,

454
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Speaker 4: we really want to work with mommy bloggers. Can you

455
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,360
Speaker 4: get us, Like mommy bloggers to come in and take

456
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 4: the class and do blog posts and like Facebook posts,

457
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 4: which is so funny now. So that was one of

458
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Speaker 4: the first like brands I worked on solo at my

459
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Speaker 4: own company.

460
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Speaker 3: I don't think you know this, but.

461
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Speaker 4: Initially be Social was called Haley PR.

462
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Speaker 3: Dead. Yeah.

463
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Speaker 4: Like one of my friends from back in the day

464
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 4: still will be like, how's Haley PR And I'm like, oh,

465
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 4: like these shrills f Haley PR. Before it changes like

466
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 4: a couple months, I was just like freelancing essentially, so yeah,

467
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 4: and I like made my own logo. I think it

468
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 4: had like a daisy in it or something like that,

469
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 4: like it was. It wasn't good, but yeah, and then

470
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 4: it switched to be Social and I was like, I

471
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 4: need a name that like feels like it can grow,

472
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 4: it can build, and it's not attached to me, like

473
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 4: it's bigger than me. And I actually thought at the time,

474
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 4: like this industry is gonna blow up, Like I was

475
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 4: watching these mommy bloggers come into this like Bar Studio

476
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 4: post a blog post and the next day the bar

477
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 4: studios like, oh my god, we have all these people

478
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Speaker 4: who want to like sign up and be members. And

479
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Speaker 4: I was like this is something that's so huge, Like

480
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Speaker 4: this is bigger than like traditional media.

481
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Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's still like that now?

482
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Speaker 4: It is very very like there's just so many people

483
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Speaker 4: doing it now, so it's a little bit different. But yes,

484
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Speaker 4: like the power of an influencer is like insane, like always, do.

485
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Speaker 2: You see is there a world where it's not that

486
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Speaker 2: influencing in this world doesn't exist?

487
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Speaker 3: Or do you think it's only going to keep growing?

488
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Speaker 4: No, it's only going to like keep evolving, Like if

489
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Speaker 4: you think about it like ten years ago when you

490
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Speaker 4: first start and today, like, yes, it's different, but it's

491
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 4: not that different, right, like over ten years, like it's evolved,

492
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 4: but not that much. Like we have new platforms like

493
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Speaker 4: TikTok which we didn't know about.

494
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Speaker 3: I think it's just going to.

495
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Speaker 4: Like new platforms will pop up, new creators will become

496
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Speaker 4: like most relevant, Like it's just going to keep just

497
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 4: like changing. And obviously you get like younger demographics starting

498
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Speaker 4: to like dive into it. So now brands are like

499
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Speaker 4: gen Z like what does that look like? So no,

500
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Speaker 4: I mean for us in our careers, hopefully it never

501
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Speaker 4: goes away.

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Speaker 3: But I actually truthfully think like it's going to be

503
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Speaker 3: a long standing like industry.

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Speaker 1: Like I honestly think, at least for me personally as

505
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Speaker 1: a consumer, I purchase stuff off of Instagram more than

506
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Speaker 1: I do just on like a commercializing on TV or

507
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Speaker 1: anything else. I am buying more products off of people

508
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Speaker 1: linking stuff on Instagram than anywhere else.

509
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Speaker 2: Well, think about it's where you're spending all your time

510
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: is scrolling Instagram. You're not spending your time at the

511
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Speaker 2: mall shopping, you know, correct, You're on Instagram. So it's

512
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Speaker 2: just taking advantage of where people are spending their time,

513
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Speaker 2: which I want to talk about where people like where

514
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: you see brands spending money and what platforms you see

515
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Speaker 2: them spending money on.

516
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Speaker 3: But first we're gonna.

517
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Speaker 6: Take a break.

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Speaker 3: All right, we are back.

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Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty, I believe it was twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: you texted me that you were going to sell be Social. Yeah, yeah,

521
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Speaker 2: can you talk about that because I think thinking about

522
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 2: starting a company Haley pr to be Social. I'm gonna

523
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: regret like saying that, but like growing this baby that you.

524
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Speaker 1: Are just like so not it. It's very saying that

525
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: you almost named it.

526
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Speaker 3: That Hailey Kyoko could have been my future partner.

527
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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's some foreshadowing the just Ret Haley's Yeah, and

528
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Speaker 7: what was this same say, So you texted me and

529
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Speaker 7: you you had been considering it, and there was a

530
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Speaker 7: moment where you were like, I'm going to make this decision.

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Speaker 3: I'm selling the company. Can you talk about that?

532
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Speaker 2: Because I can't imagine growing something and that being my

533
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Speaker 2: baby and then.

534
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Speaker 3: Yeah, handing it to someone else.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I sold the company like August

536
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, I want to say, which obviously was a

537
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 4: very crazy time for all of us personally professionally whole deal.

538
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 4: I was like pretty exhausted at that point in time,

539
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 4: kind of going through a big part of our business

540
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 4: at that time was like doing events, like in person

541
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Speaker 4: activities that completely shuddered. I was, you know, self funded.

542
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 4: I had a very big payroll, I had all the

543
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Speaker 4: things that I think about. I had rent, I had

544
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 4: just gotten a brand new office downtown LA. It was

545
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 4: a lot like it was like, oh my, how am

546
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Speaker 4: I gonna like make it through this? And the previous

547
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: year was a huge year for influencer marketing, so very

548
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 4: successful year, so kind of going into twenty twenty this

549
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 4: way was it was frustrating. I had been talking to

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Speaker 4: different companies about selling be Social at the time in

551
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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, a lot of them at the time. Once

552
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 4: COVID hit, They're like, we can't, like we just don't

553
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: have the money right now. A few of the conversations

554
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 4: kept going. One in particular, the one I was actually

555
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 4: most excited about from day one was still willing to invest,

556
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 4: which I felt like said a lot about that CEO

557
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 4: and that company ended up making that decision to sell,

558
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 4: which was like, very it's hard to explain, like it

559
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 4: is so much your baby, Like I feel like my

560
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 4: identity is so tied up in this business, which is

561
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Speaker 4: probably why Tanya thought I was just all business, because

562
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Speaker 4: I really was like this was my identity. Like I

563
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 4: put so many things aside, like my boyfriend at the time,

564
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Speaker 4: my personal relationship, like you know, I like even just

565
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: like my health and stuff, Like I just really focused

566
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: on growing the business, like that was my obsession. So

567
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Speaker 4: this was a huge decision, but at the moment felt

568
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Speaker 4: really like the right one, and now looking back, it

569
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 4: totally was like it really it helped me take the

570
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 4: back end the operations of things I don't enjoy and

571
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 4: pass that off to a parent company that's been around

572
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 4: longer that can help me grow and allowed me to

573
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Speaker 4: focus on what I love doing, the talent management, the creative,

574
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Speaker 4: the growing the business.

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Speaker 3: So it's been good. It's been like a.

576
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Speaker 4: Roller coaster for me too though, like you let go

577
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 4: of so many things, but I was able to keep

578
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Speaker 4: my autonomy so like I still run this company day

579
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Speaker 4: to day, like I still am part of it. I'm

580
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Speaker 4: the CEO while now I'm the co CEO, which I

581
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 4: can get into later, but that allowed me to really

582
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Speaker 4: feel like I was still driving the bus and that

583
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Speaker 4: was like the most important piece to me.

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Speaker 1: So isn't that what some like most companies they start

585
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Speaker 1: and they because they want to sell to like a

586
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Speaker 1: big company that is, yeah, can I ask you, and

587
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: you don't have to share numbers if you don't want to.

588
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: But when you sell your company, like you sell it

589
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: for a large sum of money, right yeah, so they

590
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: do you get like the payout then and there or

591
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: then you still get on salary or like what yeah,

592
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: were you feeling like financially like a little bit of.

593
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Speaker 4: Like yeah, no, yes, yes, because it was a very

594
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 4: very very stressful time for me, Like that moment in time. Yes,

595
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 4: there was a little a huge sense of relief, like

596
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 4: having a parent company back your payroll, your health insurance,

597
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 4: like all the things that like kept me up at

598
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 4: night in certain moments of time.

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Speaker 3: Like that was like just like oh my god, I

600
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: can breathe.

601
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, like when selling your company, there's multiple ways

603
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 4: you can set it up.

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00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: Right.

605
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 4: Typically it's based off of like an ebita, which is

606
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 4: like an essentially like how your company is valued, and

607
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 4: so they take that number and based on the industry

608
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: like multiply that to give you like a figure of

609
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Speaker 4: like here's what I'm willing to pay you to have

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00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 4: like the rights ownership of your company. So I have

611
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 4: like zero ownership in the company anymore.

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Speaker 1: So like let's say they in five ten years sell

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Speaker 1: it to an even bigger company. Yes, you could get

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Speaker 1: screwed in that if.

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Speaker 4: They sold it, Like, yeah, I wouldn't benefit because I

616
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 4: don't have any ownership.

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00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

618
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Speaker 4: So you typically get like a flat fee up front.

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Speaker 4: They can like also do you know like a bonus

620
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Speaker 4: for hitting certain milestones and then yeah, now I'm an

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Speaker 4: employee of the company, so I'm paid a salary, like

622
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Speaker 4: I'm w twoed just like a normal employee.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that does feel like a relief.

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Speaker 4: It does like in ways like I can't even explain,

625
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Speaker 4: Like it's like the pressure I feel like is taken

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00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 4: off in a way that's just like feels good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then last year you merged with was all last year?

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Speaker 2: Just last year or two years?

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Speaker 3: September twenty three, I.

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Speaker 5: Share you merged with Socialite?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Or they joined in on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So our parent company bought social Lite and then

634
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Speaker 4: they do what we do, like they represent like Lauren

635
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: Lane and like tens of people in the back and

636
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Speaker 4: like all over the board. And so they were purchased

637
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Speaker 4: by our parent company, and then we decided to merge

638
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: because otherwise we were sort of like competing with each other.

639
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 4: And so now we merged and we're sixty five people

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00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 4: at the digital department and rebranded because we didn't want

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Speaker 4: to keep our names.

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Speaker 3: How many people total? Just I guess client wise, do

643
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: y'all represent? It's like two o five or something like that,

644
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: two hundred and five.

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Speaker 2: And has it been a good merger, Like, has it

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Speaker 2: been something that you've enjoyed or is there a part.

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00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: Of you that did it?

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Speaker 2: Did it feel like a lot to take that because

649
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Speaker 2: you took on their clients essentially.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, their clients, their staff, we all came together

651
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: to become one, which like I feel like there's power numbers, right,

652
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Speaker 4: Like we're one of the bigger talent management companies for

653
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: influencers in the space now, so it helps us like

654
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Speaker 4: in the marketplace. And yes, like actually having what we

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Speaker 4: I'm a co CEO, which is funny because you don't

656
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: normally hear that. But Sarah Boyd is the other CEO.

657
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Speaker 4: I feel like you guys know her, right, yeah?

658
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I met her at your party.

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00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.

660
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Speaker 4: She's been in this space again for like probably fifteen

661
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 4: years now. So having like that support with her, I

662
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: love like bouncing off ideas and just like having someone

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Speaker 4: to just like call and chat like, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: how do we get through this hurdle or what do

665
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Speaker 4: we do? Like it's they say, it's sort of like

666
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Speaker 4: at the top of running a business is like a

667
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Speaker 4: bit lonely, like you kind of don't like who do

668
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 4: you bounce ideas off of, Like who's your work wife?

669
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Speaker 3: Like who?

670
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Speaker 4: And she's really become that for me, which has been

671
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 4: been really nice.

672
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Speaker 1: Yeah do you Oh my gosh, I totally just like

673
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: lost my question. It just like left my brain. No, No,

674
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Speaker 1: I don't want to lose it because I would oh

675
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: oh for people that are let's say somebody's listening and

676
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: they have like a thousand followers, but they really want

677
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: to become like an influencer. What are things that somebody

678
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: can do to kind of create that space for them?

679
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: And like where do you see that going in the future.

680
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably like the number one DM I get

681
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: on my Instagram.

682
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: How do I do this?

683
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 4: Like I want to do this because it is so

684
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: so like flashy and exciting, and you see all the

685
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 4: brands that are like working in the space. I strongly

686
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: believe like anyone can be a content creator, right, and

687
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: things like TikTok have allowed anyone to go like viral

688
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: overnight and start building a following.

689
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: So it's not too late.

690
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 4: I always say that, like you can literally start tomorrow

691
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 4: and be a content creator like and start making money

692
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 4: within three to six months. Like I really strongly believe that.

693
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 4: But I think the first thing you got to do

694
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 4: is like figure out what's your like mission, Like what's

695
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 4: the value you bring as a content creator? Because there's

696
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: so many people doing it so how do you stand out,

697
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: Like what is your point of view? Like what type

698
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 4: of content are you're creating that provides value and can

699
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 4: build a community, And so figure that out and then

700
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 4: you just got to show up. You just got to

701
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 4: like start creating content literally every single day, like post

702
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: the TikTok every single day. You also have to like

703
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 4: stop caring what people think. I actually did a poll

704
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: on my Instagram that was like what's stopping you from

705
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 4: being a content creator? And like so many people were

706
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: like it's because it's cringey or I'm afraid of what

707
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 4: people are going to think of me, And you literally

708
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: cannot care about that, Like, you just gotta go and

709
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 4: you gotta post if this is something you want to do.

710
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 3: Who cares what?

711
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: Like your cousin in Missouri thinks like you just can't

712
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: write like at the end of the day, like they're

713
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 4: gonna be like hopefully clapping for you when you're successful

714
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: and or jealous.

715
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: So it's like.

716
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: Because niche, there's like niche people now too are like

717
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: what are they called micro influenced micros have a smaller number,

718
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: You'll still be making just so much money with like

719
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: ten thousand followers, has ten million because you're like so

720
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: niche in that whatever that demographic is.

721
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're able to sell products.

722
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 4: And yeah, brands love micro creators because it's just like

723
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 4: they're cheaper like at the end of the day and

724
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: always have this like strong community because you have this

725
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 4: like one on one dialogue that like a macro creator

726
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: like Becca like just can't have with her audience all

727
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 4: the time, right, just different.

728
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: I do feel like that has just recently changed with

729
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: a micro creator has like a new sense of power.

730
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: And I was curious, from like.

731
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: A brand an agency standpoint, what is the number of

732
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: followers or what is it about someone that because you know,

733
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: you can say like, oh, anyone can be a content creator,

734
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: but as an an agency, what are you looking for

735
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: to represent someone?

736
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 5: And what are the numbers or like what's this?

737
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: What is it about someone that you're going like, I'm

738
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: going to take a chance on them and I want

739
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: to represent them.

740
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

741
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Speaker 4: I think just like from like a bird's eye view,

742
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 4: like fifty thousand followers is usually where you can like

743
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 4: start monetizing, like in a real way that it makes

744
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: sense to have a manager and give up a percentage. However,

745
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 4: one of my clients Raymie.

746
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: You know Rami.

747
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 4: I started rapping her when she had fifteen or ten

748
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: thousand followers. She's gotten near a million now, Like this

749
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: has been over ten years.

750
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Speaker 3: That she's built this. She makes so much money and

751
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: I was able to build with her. And I think

752
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Speaker 3: what excited me about her is that she had a vision.

753
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: Like she's like, this is what I want to build.

754
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: This is why it's different, and this is why a

755
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: manager can help me build those things. And she's like

756
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: such a hard worker too. She shows up, she creates content.

757
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 3: She's just like so powered. What's the vision?

758
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: You don't have to share hers, but like what is

759
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: an example of like having a vision?

760
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I mean I think like yours is maybe

761
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 4: like you want to create a community for modern women

762
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 4: who feel confident in whatever it might be, Like that

763
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 4: is your vision as a content creator, and then like

764
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 4: you might have ideas that help like bring that forward.

765
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 4: So having this podcast or writing a book or whatever

766
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: it might be, like having those ideas and that vision

767
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 4: that kind of like pair together.

768
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: That's sort of like align with that not necessarily.

769
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 4: I think that's where I come in, Like it's like, hey,

770
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 4: look like I want to you know, launch this podcast

771
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 4: or I want to do this, and then I can

772
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 4: come in and be like here's brands. I feel like

773
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 4: I could go and sell and pitch this concept, or

774
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 4: here's how I can help you build this podcast or

775
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 4: whatever you want to do. I think if someone comes

776
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 4: to me is like I want to be a content

777
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 4: creator because I want to be famous and make money.

778
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: Like that's just not interesting to me.

779
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 4: Like I want someone that like is willing to create

780
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: content that provides value and is interesting and like they

781
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: have like a space they can carve out.

782
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 5: C has a question.

783
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 8: Oh hi Ali, I'm a big fan for some long time.

784
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 8: I what about people out there? They don't have a

785
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 8: big following, they don't want to get paid, but they

786
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 8: want to get those pre r boxes. Oh yeah, merchant stuff. Yeah,

787
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 8: how does one go about that?

788
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

789
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 4: So that is like, well, first of all, there's like

790
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 4: a handful of different platforms you can sign up for. Really,

791
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 4: like one is called for fo hr or pond. Are

792
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: you asking for a friend? Are you asking for yourself

793
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 4: a friend?

794
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 8: Or may not want these things?

795
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 6: Yeah?

796
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's tons of platforms that you can sign

797
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: up for. Also, just like introduce yourself, like get in

798
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: the dms of these brands, Like so many brands are

799
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 4: just so thirsty to like send product and get content

800
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 4: and get those impressions. So like, yeah, that would be

801
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: like my suggestion, it's just getting the dms.

802
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like more than ever brands are like

803
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: wanting to send stuff.

804
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because I think it's like the space has evolved,

805
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: Like paying content creators is expensive, so like an entryway

806
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 4: is to like gift and get content that way and

807
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: get impressions that way.

808
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 2: So yes, well then and then it's like with TikTok,

809
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: if someone just posts about something they're gifted gifted and

810
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: it goes viral, it creates buzz around their product, right,

811
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: So it makes sense because TikTok has brought this new

812
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: sense of potential to go viral.

813
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 3: For anyone, one video, anyone, yeah.

814
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 4: Which is like honestly amazing. And we've started wrapping people

815
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: that are like have started being content creators within the

816
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 4: last six months, which is wild, like you've been doing

817
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 4: this for ten years.

818
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 5: Are people growing on Instagram?

819
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: New people are new people.

820
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: A lot of people like me old self field self

821
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: grow and uh Instagram because I really, I mean I've

822
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: been I've been at my following since the batchel or.

823
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: Basically one point one.

824
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, growing on Instagram is really really hard, like very difficult,

825
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: they say, like reels, like creating a reel every single

826
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 4: day stories, and now they're actually switching to carousels and

827
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 4: static posts being priority.

828
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, mine are doing better.

829
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 5: My static posts are doing better than my reels.

830
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: It's like the algorithm is just always changing on us, but.

831
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: Keeping us on our toes.

832
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, which I respect my biggest tip. And I

833
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 4: feel like, Tanya, you do this, like thank you. You

834
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: create content every single day every day and like you

835
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 4: really you're in it to win it.

836
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate you saying that because I feel

837
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: like I suck at it. I have my crutches, Like

838
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: I feel like I always do my like same ten

839
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: things every single day.

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00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? It's like how the

841
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: things you're passionate about, right yeah.

842
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But it's also like those crutches. I think

843
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like I need to like be better

844
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: about just showing more of Yeah.

845
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 4: Yes, I always used to think that like niche and

846
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 4: down was like the best way to be a content creator,

847
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: But I feel like if you want to work with brands.

848
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 4: That's not necessarily true. It's like showing everything about you,

849
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 4: like what makes you dynamic and interesting, from fitness to

850
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: being a bride, to you know whatever.

851
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: It's called glutial et cetera.

852
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: Right, right, right, speaking of being a bride, I want

853
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: to talk about wedding planning.

854
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: So much better about it, by way, I do. We're

855
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: going to take a break. We're going to be right back.

856
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: We'll talk more about that. All right, we're back.

857
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 2: So wedding planning first, Let's go back to the start

858
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: of where it all begin. That you're planning a wedding,

859
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 2: because when I met you, you were in a different

860
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 2: relationship than you're in now, and it's kind of not

861
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: a similar story as mine, but it was similar in

862
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: the sense that you were with a person that wasn't

863
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,959
Speaker 2: right for you, and you had signs, but you were

864
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: willing to ignore them out of the fear of being alone.

865
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 4: Yes, which is is a tough one. Like I think

866
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: that's common, right, Like a lot of people are afraid

867
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: of being alone. I said earlier, I was very independent,

868
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 4: but I think maybe I'm not so interesting.

869
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: I find your person, you find safety in their comfort,

870
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: and so it's the comfort of wanting to be at

871
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: that person because I would consider myself a very independent person.

872
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: But I love being with Haley twenty four to seven.

873
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: So I'm jealous of.

874
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 2: That when you were when you were in your other relationship,

875
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: we traveled all over the world together because you were

876
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: just ready and willing to leave whenever.

877
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: Like I said.

878
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 4: Before, like I was so obsessed and dedicated to my

879
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 4: business at the time, which made like other parts of

880
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 4: my life not priority. And that was just like the facts.

881
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 4: I feel like what you prioritize flourishes, right, Like we

882
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: all know that, like professionally or with anything in your life.

883
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 4: I do think too, Like people had always told me,

884
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 4: like when you meet the one, you're gonna know, and

885
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 4: I'd be like, that is so dumb, Like that is

886
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 4: the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Until I met Carston

887
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: right and I was like, holy crap, Like it's like

888
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 4: constant butterflies. I'm so obsessed with him. I find everything

889
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 4: he does like so exciting and invigorating and like I'm

890
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 4: just like I want more of him, like all the time.

891
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: Oh and for no, like for the first four how

892
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 2: long do we do it? Four years of knowing you

893
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: I never saw you that way.

894
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like ever like.

895
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: You would talk, like hearing your conversations, you know, it

896
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: was just a very different tone. And when y'all's relationship

897
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: ended with your ex and you started dating again, it

898
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: was like I saw this new version of you and

899
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: Carston brought out a totally different side of you. And

900
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: when I met Hayley, I experience that same thing. So

901
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: seeing it happened to your best friend is like such.

902
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: A I'd love to have seen that with you.

903
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really cool.

904
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think it's just like I was

905
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: like happy in a new way, and I think too,

906
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 4: like I put business aside for a minute and I

907
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 4: was like what makes Ali happy?

908
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: What like what are the things that's I happy?

909
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: Haley pr happy?

910
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 4: And that was just like this like overwhelming feeling, honestly

911
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 4: like and I think, like, I mean, I can try,

912
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: I can talk about this, but like even sexually, like

913
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 4: I was like I had this like reawakening, reawakening of

914
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 4: my sexuality, which was like stuff I hadn't felt before,

915
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 4: and it was when you know, you know, like it

916
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: really is so true. And I think it's just like

917
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 4: he keeps me excited and inspired I.

918
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: Still feel like you're that way and you'll been together.

919
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: It'll be four years, this this coming.

920
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: Thing right, five years because you longer than we.

921
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: Okay, this is what I.

922
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 4: Always like, Did I meet Carson first or just you

923
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 4: meet Robbie first?

924
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: Because and Carson first, because I remember specifically it was

925
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: new you guys were like newly dating. But it was

926
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: Becca's birthday dinner and you were telling me how you.

927
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 3: Met the dinner.

928
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: What Yeah, she was telling me how she met that

929
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: you met this guy on Hinge that you really like,

930
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: and so you were in early days. But I remember

931
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: specifically because I got on Hinge October thirty first, and

932
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: then I met Robbie November first, So you guys were

933
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: for sure dating for maybe like a few weeks before

934
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: I met Robbie.

935
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: This is right. I think it was a different guy. Okay,

936
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 3: let's just say I dated and Gord I was like

937
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: I was at I said, as I was having a

938
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: lot of fun on Hinge, I was.

939
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: Like, you're meeting great people.

940
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: I was meeting great people on Hinge and I was dating,

941
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 4: Like I was like, so.

942
00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: When did you as meet?

943
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 2: We met?

944
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 3: I guess we matched in like November.

945
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: I was twenty nineteen. Yeah, oh so same time.

946
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, okay, yeah yeah, because yeah, I was thirty

947
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: one at the time.

948
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: So, oh my god, that's so crazy. Yeah.

949
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: So it'll be five years this yes, fall this November.

950
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god. And I think that, Oh wow.

951
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean my reality is like totally shook, chicked down.

952
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 3: But I do want to say, like, did I not

953
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 3: tell you different?

954
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: Well, whatever it was, it inspired me, and I got

955
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: on Hinge the next day and met Robbie the following day. No, yes,

956
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: I met in November first.

957
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: On Hinge at all at all, I really downloaded it.

958
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

959
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, but so it was.

960
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: Yours anti apps.

961
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was your story. And then I'd gotten my

962
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: vagina wax and my vagina waxer met her guy on

963
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: Hinge and I was like, this is the universal community.

964
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: Get on Hinge. Yeah, so I was on.

965
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: No.

966
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: I tried Bumble for like two days. Yeah, Becca helped

967
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 4: me launch. I went I lunch. It was a whole

968
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 4: lunch of the apps.

969
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: But then I only did Hinge. I think the end.

970
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 3: I didn't do like Raya or any of the like

971
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: other things.

972
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: So you knew pretty much immediately that Carson was the one,

973
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: like you had the feeling that everyone told you.

974
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: Were going to have.

975
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: I was like obsessed, Okay, and then y'all got engaged

976
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two.

977
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and remember it vividly.

978
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: I Thanksgiving twenty two, Yeah, because I remember showing it

979
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: to Robbie being like, look, who's engaged. Interesting dating a

980
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: little bit less than us, but you thought it was longer? Yeah, true,

981
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: was it? I said around the same time.

982
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 6: Yeah.

983
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

984
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you've ever told your story

985
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: of getting engaged publicly, or if you've shared that.

986
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: About how y'all got engage. A lot of people are wondering.

987
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: Public outlets minus my Instagram. I did do a Instagram

988
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 4: or TikTok it. Yeah, we got engaged November twenty two

989
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 4: in Hawaii and Kona, the Big Island. Carston took me

990
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: to this really cute church that we drove up to,

991
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 4: and I thought we were just doing like some sight seeing,

992
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: and I immediately was like, oh my god, this is

993
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 4: the church my parents got engaged at because I know

994
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 4: this because it's like printed in our home, and I

995
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 4: thought that was a surprise.

996
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: I was like that, this is so sweet of you.

997
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: Like how thoughtful to take me here, like let's take

998
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 4: some photos. And then he gets on his knee and

999
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 4: he's like so so nervous and like shaky, and I

1000
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: was like, you were getting so weird. What's happening. I

1001
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, I'm being proposed to. And

1002
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 4: that's how it happened.

1003
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: Did you block out.

1004
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 5: What he said?

1005
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: No?

1006
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 4: And he knows what he said right, Like it's just

1007
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: sort of like, oh my god, ring he's coming, like

1008
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 4: oh yeah, we asked this lady like to take photos

1009
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: of us, who like they were the worst photos, like

1010
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 4: I didn't really get Yeah, we didn't really get like

1011
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 4: the best content, which is fine, but yeah, that's how

1012
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 4: it happened. It was like a whirlwind though, like it

1013
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 4: was just I still can't believe it. Like I'm like,

1014
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm like too young.

1015
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: To be engaged, Like am I old not to be

1016
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: doing this? Like I'm not sure am I responsible enough?

1017
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: Thing?

1018
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: Like yeah, like it makes you it's like whoa like?

1019
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 4: And I never was one of those ones. I was

1020
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 4: like dying to get married, like it really never like

1021
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 4: like romanticized that necessarily, so like diving into the wedding

1022
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 4: planning process, and like doing this, I'm kind of like,

1023
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 4: whoa this is this is fun, this.

1024
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: Is a lot, Like I get such I feel like

1025
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: I get such a reprieve. I don't know if that's

1026
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: the right word when I talk big words. Yeah, thank you.

1027
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're never really sure if it's being used right.

1028
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know if we go with it. When I

1029
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: talk to you about this stuff, because you got engaged

1030
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: in November of twenty twenty two and you're getting married

1031
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty four, yes, and everybody's always

1032
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: on me like why have we started planning? Why have

1033
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: we started planning? I'm like, it's so intimidating, and it's

1034
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: just like a lot, you know, like it's a lot financially,

1035
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: it's a lot like when you have when you're both

1036
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: have full time jobs, like there's only so much and

1037
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: we have two kids in mix, like there's only so

1038
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: much time that we can devote to like trying to

1039
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: figure it out, and then like there's just so much

1040
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: and I always feel like you I can.

1041
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1042
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: I always feel like we're kind of on the same

1043
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: wavelength with all this stuff, because like it took you

1044
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: some time to like get it going, oh yeah, and

1045
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: that's what I feel like it is like happening with

1046
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: me too.

1047
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 4: I was very overwhelmed by the process. And I think

1048
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: because like I work in this like the industry of

1049
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: like events and production and stuff, and I'm like, oh

1050
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: my god, like planning this like I know it's going

1051
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: to like go into this, And initially we wanted it

1052
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 4: in la but then decided to do Amsterdam because that's

1053
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 4: where Carston's from. He's Dutch, which I'm like, oh my god.

1054
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 4: An overseas planning. That's like a whole other thing.

1055
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: It's a lot. Like people say, it's like a.

1056
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: Second full time job, and like we both a full

1057
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 4: time job. So it's like where do you find the

1058
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 4: time for us. It's like we've carved out like an

1059
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: hour each week to kind of like I could go in.

1060
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: Your family time is something you call it family family meetings,

1061
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 4: like you know, maybe you make them an hour longer,

1062
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 4: and it's like the wedding planning time.

1063
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: I think once you get a day in a venue,

1064
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: I think it's starts to flow. It's just like we

1065
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: can't even figure out a day in a venue.

1066
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's not figured out yet, right, No, I

1067
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: think the difference of like, use it, everyone's on you.

1068
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: I think it's that you wanted You have been so

1069
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: vocal about wanting this, I think Ali, but like Ali

1070
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: was like.

1071
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take my time. There's no rush. I

1072
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: think that's why people are like.

1073
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: What's interesting that I was like, I love having people over,

1074
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: Like I love having parties like at our house, having

1075
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: people over, Like.

1076
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 5: I love that.

1077
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, the idea of like planning an event is so

1078
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: overwhelming to me, Like it really is because I have

1079
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: no idea, Like I just like I don't know what

1080
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing. Obviously I have a wedding planner who knows

1081
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: what she's doing. Yeah, But like I think that it

1082
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: is because I've had so much of this like dream

1083
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 1: in my head.

1084
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's pressure.

1085
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: There's so much pressure that it's like you don't know

1086
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: if you're making the right decision ever.

1087
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1088
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 4: I mean it's also a lot of money, yes, which

1089
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 4: I feel.

1090
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 3: This weird guilt about.

1091
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 4: I don't know how to explain it really, like I'm like, oh,

1092
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 4: this is so much money to spend on something. I

1093
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: don't know if that it like is it like it's

1094
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 4: kind of like, oh, should I just elope, and is

1095
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 4: that the route we go? Or do I have this

1096
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 4: like lavish, five hundred person wedding, Like which way do

1097
00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 4: I go?

1098
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: It's like your head and your heart constantly like combating

1099
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: each other because you're like, yeah, I can have that,

1100
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: save this money and do like buy a house or

1101
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: do all these things. But then in my heart, I'm like,

1102
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: but I've always really wanted a wedding and to be

1103
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: the bride and like, yeah, you know what I mean. So

1104
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: it's like you have these two competing things. I think

1105
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: also being in your thirties. In your twenties, I would

1106
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: have spent all the money. I would have like gone

1107
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: in debt to like have this carriage bring me out,

1108
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: and you're on the slipper, do you know what I mean?

1109
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: Like there would have been no stop to it. And

1110
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: now that I'm older and I'm like, I make my

1111
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: own money, and like you know what I mean, I

1112
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: just feel like it's just it's just.

1113
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: So you also you have different You're like I want

1114
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: a house. There's just different things that you're like.

1115
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, like money doesn't grow on tree.

1116
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 5: Yeah no, it sure doesn't.

1117
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 3: No, it don't. And don't what.

1118
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, did you enjoy your bachelorette party?

1119
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, okay, I had like a week and

1120
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 4: a half hangover from that too.

1121
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: I think I read it.

1122
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: I was so unwell. I just cannot drink anymore. I

1123
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: didn't even drink that much. I have like maybe two

1124
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 4: shots and like a tequila soda. What No, I really

1125
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 4: didn't that much.

1126
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: Why did we take so many shots?

1127
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: Then we all took a way more than two shots. Yeah,

1128
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 3: you guys are stronger than me though.

1129
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 4: So the hangover was real, like horrible, but the event

1130
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 4: the bachelorette itself amazing.

1131
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 3: Thanks to you. Thank you for helping as you don't

1132
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: I yeah, go ahead.

1133
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say how I planned her whole

1134
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 2: bachelorette Like Ali had a vision for what she wanted,

1135
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: Like if I had done it, there would have been

1136
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: randy and climb paraphernalia, and she had a vision and

1137
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: blame the whole thing. So every time that people compliment

1138
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 2: me about the Bachelor or you say thank you, I'm like, yeah,

1139
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: I showed up.

1140
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 3: I guess I'm like a bit.

1141
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 4: I was a bit of a micromanager, not gonna lie

1142
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 4: like I definitely had the mood boards the pinterest, the

1143
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 4: vision for it.

1144
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: But you were you.

1145
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 4: You got us those amazing bags from Poolside, which were

1146
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 4: like so so cute. You got us gifting like you

1147
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: did a lot. And you also were like the vibe,

1148
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 4: like you kept everyone excited, You included everyone. You just

1149
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 4: are like you're such a ray of sunshine in that regard.

1150
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 4: And I think literally everyone, like my sister in laws

1151
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 4: where they were like we love Becca, like we want

1152
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 4: her to be our best friend.

1153
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: Like they were like obsessed with you.

1154
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 4: So that's what you brought to the table, which I've

1155
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 4: never done.

1156
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: It's iceless.

1157
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: It really is priceless.

1158
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 3: You don't know, you don't know, you don't know like

1159
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: how you touch people like you really are.

1160
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: It's just it's a gift.

1161
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: You have it.

1162
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't think I have it.

1163
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think most people think I'm like really stand

1164
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 4: offish and like business.

1165
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 3: Even when you get to know me, I'm like, I'm not.

1166
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: I don't think yeah, but do you know what's so crazy?

1167
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: Though?

1168
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: It was like you're never going to have a bauchelrette

1169
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: party again.

1170
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's why it's dark.

1171
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: It gets dark.

1172
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 3: Oh god, post wedding blues. I cannot even imagine.

1173
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 6: I know.

1174
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: That's like I think that there's something psychological with me

1175
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: too that's pushing everything because I'm like, you still get

1176
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: to like, yeah, you know, like I'm never going to

1177
00:51:59,480 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: have a batch.

1178
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: It was already in dark.

1179
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 4: It's kind of the shootest part I always say is

1180
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 4: being the fiance.

1181
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, and I'm like, I'm never going to

1182
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: have this period again. I just keep pushing it, like

1183
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm like no, no, no, Like I can't get married until

1184
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: twenty four. It's too soon.

1185
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: It's too so soon.

1186
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: Because I'm like, I don't want it to end.

1187
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 3: I get that one hundred percent. Yeah, don't let it end.

1188
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 6: Just be engaged for this in my life.

1189
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: How did you so after the wedding, we're going on

1190
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 2: a buddy moon and there's a group of us going

1191
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: with you in Carston to celebrate the wedding, the nuptials.

1192
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: How did you come to the conclusion of doing that

1193
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: versus a honeymoon.

1194
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 4: I think because we like we were all going to

1195
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 4: be in Europe, and I was like, when will I

1196
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 4: have all these friends in Europe with me again? Like

1197
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 4: that feels rare, once in a lifetime, if you will. Yeah,

1198
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 4: So we were like, yeah, let's do a buddy moon.

1199
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: I'm so excited. We're going to Mayorca, which is going

1200
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 3: to be what you've been to before.

1201
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 5: But I've never been to Amsterdam somewhere.

1202
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 3: You haven't. No, you have, you haven't. No, you have

1203
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 3: never I've never been. I no, you really haven't. And

1204
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 3: I wanted to have you been?

1205
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: Have you?

1206
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

1207
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: I would say not many people have.

1208
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 3: You're so is it in Becca the Netherlands? Good job

1209
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: and they speak Dutch.

1210
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't know for a while.

1211
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I know the time is good. There there

1212
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: were so many questions that people wanted me to get to.

1213
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: I think we got. We did business, we did wedding,

1214
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 2: we did friendship. People also wanted to know your thoughts

1215
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: when I started dating Haley, or like how I told

1216
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 2: you or what I told you when we like kids

1217
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: or whatever. Oh.

1218
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: I actually vividly remember this. I don't know. Maybe I'm

1219
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 3: like wrong, but I think this is how it went.

1220
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 4: We were at like a brand event together for like Bulgari. Yes, yes,

1221
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 4: it was this like really fancy event. I like, was

1222
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 4: your plus one?

1223
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: We went?

1224
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: She's You're always her plus one?

1225
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: I know?

1226
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: So true?

1227
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 4: Oh oh Oh, I didn't know where that was going.

1228
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 3: You say, no, they're too these events are too late

1229
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: for you.

1230
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1231
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're like, I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna go

1232
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 4: meet up with this girl, like and I think you

1233
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 4: had met her before.

1234
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we met on Wednesday time. Yeah, and you're like,

1235
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go to like chateau right. Yeah.

1236
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: Well I didn't know that's where I was going at that.

1237
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: I just we were going to go get a drink.

1238
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 4: And I was like what, Like I was like, okay, cool,

1239
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 4: Like I just thought it was like a friendship thing.

1240
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: I was like, okay.

1241
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 4: And then I think we talked the next morning and

1242
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 4: you had like made out, not that.

1243
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: Night, you didn't, not that night, the next the next night, yeah, okay, okay.

1244
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: And I was like.

1245
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah when she said I made out, I was like, yeah,

1246
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: I did not see the story going.

1247
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 3: No, I totally And I was like, not when you.

1248
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: I didn't want to seem shocked, so I was like, cool, Yeah,

1249
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: you can try to knock the shop look off my face.

1250
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did a great job. Yeah, so chill.

1251
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 4: But I think I was like I was so excited

1252
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 4: for you because like I'd never had seen you.

1253
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 3: Get excited about someone before, Like I was like, oh

1254
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: what about that guy or this guy, and.

1255
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 4: You're kind of just like like like not interested.

1256
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: No, I don't have that chip in me. Yeah I

1257
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: have it.

1258
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 4: And then when you talked about her, it was like, yeah,

1259
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 4: we made out and and I was like, oh my god,

1260
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 4: this could totally be something.

1261
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: And then when did I meet her? I don't know.

1262
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: I don't think I met her until like May of the.

1263
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: Well she was on tour yeah, oh in Europe. No, well,

1264
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 3: no she was.

1265
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: She did her US tour, like she left the week

1266
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: after we met, so like not really anyone met her

1267
00:55:58,680 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 2: for a minute.

1268
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: I feel like I met her.

1269
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: I met her at a beach trip. I remember it

1270
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: was a beach trip.

1271
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 3: A beach trip, No you met her?

1272
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 5: Did you help me clean?

1273
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 3: Did I meet Haley? I don't know. We need to

1274
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 3: go back and figure this out, because.

1275
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: Honestly, my old age, my memory is going, We're not old,

1276
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: it's going.

1277
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 3: I had like all of.

1278
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: My best friends were so like okay, what like it

1279
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: was like what okay?

1280
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like I think I went from like

1281
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 4: oh wow too, this is exciting. Yeah, and then I

1282
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 4: was like wait, I need to see her on Instagram.

1283
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 4: I was like, she's so cool.

1284
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, she's really really cool, and was.

1285
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was intimidated to meet her initially,

1286
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 4: And didn't she think I was intimidating or something.

1287
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think everyone thinks that you're, like you said,

1288
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 2: very business like, but once you once the veil comes off,

1289
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: you're truly one of the funny people. And I think

1290
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: for a long time I featured you on my Instagram

1291
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: story dancing, and that's how people got to know you.

1292
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,959
Speaker 3: So then when I just those are just so gross, it's.

1293
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: Amazing, That's when my content was thriving the most. And

1294
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: I think that people see you in such when I

1295
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: go to your work or see help your coworkers interact

1296
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: with you, it makes me laugh because I just think

1297
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: you're so funny, I know, and people don't get to

1298
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: see that all the time, no, which.

1299
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 4: Is hard like being I mean, you know, like being

1300
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 4: in corporate, like you have this like way you have

1301
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 4: to be, which I don't feel like I get to

1302
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 4: be myself all the time, right, you said.

1303
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: Carson wrote you a letter, I think on your birthday

1304
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: or something. He said something like, thank you for always

1305
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: filling our house with laughter? Is that what he said?

1306
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1307
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: Are you crying?

1308
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Maybe?

1309
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah he did say that. He said filling

1310
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 4: our home. Yeah, filling our home with laughter. And I

1311
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 4: was just like, and I feel like that's actually like

1312
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 4: the center point of our relationship, and would I like

1313
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 4: seek out.

1314
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 3: I think in any.

1315
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 4: Friendship, like with you, for example, it's like it's always

1316
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 4: centered on like humor and funniness and just like constantly laughing.

1317
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 3: And I think that's like my love language. Maybe I

1318
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 3: don't know. If not, I do too. It's not an

1319
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: official one, but I feel that way too.

1320
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: And I feel like it's funny because I have such

1321
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: a different relationship with both of you, Like y'all are

1322
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: both my best friends, but I have such a they're different.

1323
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 3: I literally can't They're just so different, but I had

1324
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Speaker 3: to rate them.

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Speaker 2: If I texted you the way that I text Ali,

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Speaker 2: you would be devastated.

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Speaker 3: Oh really. Sometimes I like.

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00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: Cute stuff like how are you feeling, how's your heart?

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00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: Like what's going on? And she she'll text me back

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00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: and be like, what's going on? Like I don't understand

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Speaker 1: what is this?

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00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,479
Speaker 3: Like, just how are you feeling?

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Speaker 2: Socially I'm like, I'm just trying to clean my house

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Speaker 2: right now, but you do you need me?

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Speaker 1: Do you need something? I'm like just like oh.

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't out. It was more just like, are

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Speaker 2: you okay? What's happening? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever asked you like an important moment. Sure,

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00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 4: like I'm there and I can be, but day to day,

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Speaker 4: like I mean, I also text really.

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Speaker 5: Really weird, like yo, like a different language.

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Speaker 4: Just yeah, it's like one sentence or one word or

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00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 4: like I'm just very like short.

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Speaker 2: You have friendships where you have different humor with your friends.

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Speaker 1: If you had to, like you know, you when you're

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Speaker 1: in school and you had to pick your kickbox team

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Speaker 1: And if you're.

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Speaker 5: Picking, I'll drink, I'll take a shot.

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Speaker 2: Probably.

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Speaker 3: I feel like maybe you would choosing. My sister's really

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Speaker 3: just wants you to pick.

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Speaker 1: We pick, Yeah, just just rate us.

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Speaker 3: I'm not picking. It's like it's just different. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: like picking a favorite child. You don't have a favorite child.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a good ways.

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Speaker 1: Do Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Parrots say they don't,

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Speaker 1: but they do.

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Speaker 3: Okay, pick between Sonny and Robbie. Oh, Robbie Robbie. Oh

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Speaker 3: my god, pick between Phoebe and Haley.

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Speaker 1: What Hailey Hailey?

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Speaker 3: But like that's really hard. Oh my god, no what yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh I don't like No. I mean Brooks is like

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Speaker 3: number one king of all kings, but.

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Speaker 1: A person goes above him. Yeah yeah, whoa.

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01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean Haley goes above all. But that's tough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, always go back to I know we do gotta go.

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Speaker 1: But if you were to give a twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: bride any words of wisdom, tips, money tricks, anything like

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01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: whoaud because you're getting married.

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Speaker 4: Soon elope, oh ohpe, or do like a really and

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01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 4: to ment like little beach dinner or something with like

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Speaker 4: twenty people, fifteen to twenty people. Just make it really simple.

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Speaker 4: Don't spend more than like ten thousand dollars, Like it

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01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 4: is just so much money time and investment in something

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Speaker 4: that lasts just one one day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but hold on, we needed to revisit this after

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Speaker 2: we have the wedding.

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Speaker 4: Yes, a wedding might be like I'm so excited and

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01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 4: feel like so privileged to be able to like have

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Speaker 4: this wedding, Like not everyone can can do that, and

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Speaker 4: I feel like having an elopement and like getting cute

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01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 4: content and dressing up for the day are really intimate

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01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 4: like dinner would have like the same sentiment, I think,

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Speaker 4: without maybe all of the headache. But again, like I

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01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 4: haven't been married, I haven't done the whole wedding.

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Speaker 3: I am so excited for mine. But maybe I'm telling

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Speaker 3: you to go elope time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, and I guess if you are some one thing,

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Speaker 1: I think here's the thing. You are never god willing,

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Speaker 1: never going to get married again. Right, so this is

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01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: like this is my wedding, Like this is my once

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Speaker 1: in my lifetime wedding. I'm not gonna I don't want

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Speaker 1: it to be this like schmorgs wor overboard Cinderella carriage,

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01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: like I want be four. But I feel like, let's

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01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: say in ten twenty years, you can always have an

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Speaker 1: intimate beach dinner party. You can't have a wedding again.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? I do?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so let me like reanswer and I'll answer in

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Speaker 4: the way of like, Okay, you want to have a

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Speaker 4: wedding and that's the thing. Yeah, So find me a

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01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 4: really good wedding planner. Is key, Like they're the person

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01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 4: who knows the vendors like they are going to keep

1403
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 4: everything like straight figure out your budget and stick to

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01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 4: it ahead of time. It's very easy to be like, oh, sure,

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01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 4: I'll add the extra five thousand dollars flowers, because why not.

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Speaker 4: But if you give me your fog machine, yeah, like

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01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 4: you don't need the yeah.

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Speaker 3: The full I can do fog machines.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, no fog machines. There's one of my tips.

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01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 4: And yeah, stick to that budget and have fun along

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01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 4: the way. Like it's not it's not work, it's not serious.

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01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 4: Like the planning process should be fun and exciting.

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Speaker 3: Great, so wedding planner. Yeah, and instead of budget and

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Speaker 3: like have fun along the way. What about stylist?

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Speaker 4: I don't this has been such a headache for me,

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01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 4: Like I don't think that I like naturally of good

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01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 4: like personal clothing style and so like having to like

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Speaker 4: dress myself for the wedding events. Like Becka probably has

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Speaker 4: four thousand different like links that I've sent her for.

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01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 5: Both of us back and forth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for like what am I wearing to this? And what?

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Speaker 4: Like, So a stylist is fun? Maybe are there like

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Speaker 4: wedding stylists like that is Like so if that's not

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01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 4: a business like that.

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01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 3: Should be a business. I'm sure there is, yeah, but

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Speaker 3: I don't know. That's my recommendation too.

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Speaker 2: All right, where can people follow you all the tips

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01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: and tricks on Instagram and TikTok and YouTube shorts, sick

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01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: substack now?

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Speaker 3: Because I just launched fun whoa, Oh that was what

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01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you about. Where what platforms you're

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01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 3: seeing growth on? Okay, so subs? Do you guys know

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01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 3: what substack?

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01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 5: I've heard of it, but I thought it was like political.

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01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, yeah, there are like political writers on it,

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01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 4: but it's basically like a blogging platform with like a

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01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 4: newsletter built in. Actually could be really interesting for scrubbing

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01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 4: in that could be something we Yeah, a newsletter, yeah,

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01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 4: like on top of the Facebook group Yeah, which I

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01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 4: am an admin of, very proud admire of.

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01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 5: Yeah creator, Oh wow, you made it.

1442
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 3: That is true. I need to get more involved with

1443
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 3: the love of my scrub sisters.

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01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, they love you.

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01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 3: Oh that's sweet.

1446
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 4: I think platform that is like really interesting right now

1447
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 4: is substack. I think that's like really if you like

1448
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 4: to write, like, it's a really great platform. TikTok, YouTube shorts,

1449
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 4: Instagram always snapshat, Yeah, snap for like the right creator,

1450
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 4: Like I don't it's it's Exkews Younger, right, it's like

1451
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 4: more gen Z. But it has something called Spotlight where

1452
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 4: you can like it's just like a feed like Instagram

1453
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 4: reels or a TikTok feed, so you can just like

1454
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 4: post your short form there and yeah, start building a following.

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01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 2: I had a conversation last week or yeah, about how

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01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm accepting that I'm I'm a millennial.

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01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: I'm a millennial, not gen Z. You're like a mid

1458
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 3: to high elder millennial. I know that I'm having to

1459
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 3: accept it. You ow all people know, so.

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01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, but you're like core millennial. Yes, yes, I

1461
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 4: understand having to like wrap your head around Yeah, wrap.

1462
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 3: Your head around it.

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01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 3: I felt like you could relate. Okay, So where can

1465
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 3: people follow you? What's your substack?

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01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 4: I guess just my Instagram, which is Ali Grant, and

1467
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 4: then I have started a TikTok and a new Instagram

1468
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 4: about like creator tips and tricks, like if you're interested

1469
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 4: in getting into that space, I'm starting to build content

1470
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 4: there for people.

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Speaker 1: Why did you choose to make a separate account for that?

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01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: Like I liked that on yours.

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Speaker 3: You did.

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01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's it's like a different part of you.

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01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 4: Oh really put it on my normal instagram. I feel

1476
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 4: like my normal instagram is so like fashion, beauty, aesthetic blog.

1477
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's what you you think it is?

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01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, that's good feedback.

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01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 4: Maybe I do just like the tips talk about like

1480
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 4: trying to build.

1481
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 3: A new Instagram from scratch. I don't even know how

1482
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 3: to like do that.

1483
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: Here's what I think though, I think there's a I

1484
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 2: think it's smart because it separates anything that you want

1485
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: to keep personal on your Instagram. It separates the work

1486
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 2: part of it. So I think having a separate one

1487
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: is smart because you don't want to feel like your

1488
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: whole personal instagram is all business and you always have

1489
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 2: to post like tips and stuff. You know, people can

1490
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,959
Speaker 2: give reach out to you and you get feedback through

1491
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: the business account.

1492
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you both, great thoughts. Take them both into consideration.

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01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for scrubbing in after all this test.

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01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: Thank you for scrub dub dubbing.

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01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 3: Oh we love you so much. I love you both this.

1496
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Wow, see you next year.