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Speaker 3: with that tremendously. I think it's a tremendous idea. Yet

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you what the best piece of fan

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Speaker 1: So we have touted this for a long time. As

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Speaker 1: I've said, one of my platforms if I scratch that,

436
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Speaker 1: if we were not live, i'd have Colin cut what

437
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Speaker 1: I just said.

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Speaker 2: We don't believe in if.

439
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Speaker 1: One of my platform focus points when I am College

440
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Speaker 1: Football Commissioner has always been to give you the option

441
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Speaker 1: to play a real game in spring. You don't have to,

442
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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna give you the option to. And here's

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Speaker 1: how we've always laid it out. You find a partner

444
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Speaker 1: to dance with, so you find another school who wants.

445
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Speaker 2: To do it.

446
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Speaker 1: I've got CBS or ESPN or Fox or NBC just ready,

447
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Speaker 1: willing and able. They're starving in the spring. Their shelves

448
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: are virtually bare. What are you talking about. If you

449
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Speaker 1: don't have the NCAA tournament, if you don't have the Masters,

450
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Speaker 1: if you don't have those contracts, what are you doing

451
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 1: in terms of live events in the spring. So ESPN

452
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Speaker 1: or CBS or Fox or NBC, it would readily come

453
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Speaker 1: to the table and say hey, we'll pay you two

454
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Speaker 1: or three million dollars for this, and you say heck yeah,

455
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: And so you go and you schedule it the way

456
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Speaker 1: you want to, and you bring them into town on Monday,

457
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Speaker 1: and you have a few joint practices and then you

458
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Speaker 1: play yourselves a game on Saturday. You ticket five or

459
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Speaker 1: ten dollars a piece to where it's still very affordable.

460
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Speaker 1: You make a gate, but it's very affordable for families

461
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Speaker 1: that maybe can't afford it in the fall to come

462
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Speaker 1: to campus. You've got a media partner on board, you

463
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Speaker 1: get the great exposure. You also think about the marketing

464
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Speaker 1: opportunities you have here. Think about the special one time

465
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Speaker 1: only jerseys that you could wear.

466
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Speaker 2: There's an example there.

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Speaker 1: There are many different things that you could do to

468
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Speaker 1: maximize revenue here, and revenue maximization you better do because

469
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Speaker 1: every one of you's got to pay fifteen or twenty

470
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Speaker 1: million dollars out of your pocket now that you didn't

471
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Speaker 1: used to have to pay out, and not all of

472
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Speaker 1: you can afford it readily, So you better be searching

473
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Speaker 1: for revenue streams so you get all that taken care of. Also,

474
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Speaker 1: the fans win because they get an event in the spring.

475
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Speaker 2: The players win on multiple fronts.

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Speaker 1: They probably make a little more money off of that,

477
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Speaker 1: but they also maximize their development and therefore they're maximizing

478
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Speaker 1: their potential more than they otherwise would have. The school

479
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: benefits because they make more money and here's the last part.

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Speaker 1: Anyone who's got a problem with it can just keep walking.

481
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Speaker 1: No one's mandating this. Dion Sanders didn't say I want

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Speaker 1: everyone to be forced to do this.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear what he said?

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Speaker 1: He said, I want the opportunity to be able to

485
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Speaker 1: do this, which is all it ever should be. If

486
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Speaker 1: you want to do it, fine, if you don't. Find

487
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Speaker 1: there's this weird group of people that wander mainly the Internet,

488
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Speaker 1: but some of these people really exist and they hear

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Speaker 1: an idea and they say, I don't like that idea,

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Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to be able to do it. Well,

491
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Speaker 1: it's really none of your business what anyone else does.

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Speaker 1: You can mandate it for yourself, but then your power

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Speaker 1: stops in the mirror. So if I want to do

494
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Speaker 1: it and it's legal, I'm just going to go ahead

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Speaker 1: and do it, and you can set it out if

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Speaker 1: you don't like it.

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Speaker 2: This is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I've gotten a lot of feedback on this.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna happen like real games, as spring games

500
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Speaker 1: are gonna happen. You can shape it however you want.

501
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: You can structure the week leading up to it. However,

502
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Speaker 1: you want. I think you'll probably see home and homes

503
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Speaker 1: agreed to in spring games. By the way, I think

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Speaker 1: if North Carolina goes to Boulder, Colorado, and that's, by

505
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Speaker 1: the way, that's who they're talking to. Colorado's talking to

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. If North Carolina were to go there this year,

507
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Speaker 1: Deanna company would go right back over to Chapel Hill

508
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Speaker 1: next year. So everyone wins, everyone gets a home date,

509
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Speaker 1: the media partners on board with it, the fans win,

510
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Speaker 1: everybody wins. And if you think this is a losing idea,

511
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Speaker 1: then you can sit it out. It's gonna happen. Everyone's

512
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Speaker 1: finding every other way imaginable to create a new revenue

513
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Speaker 1: stream for their athletic department. You think they're gonna let

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Speaker 1: this one go by the wayside, They'll figure it out.

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Speaker 2: This will happen as soon as this year.

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Speaker 1: But I think almost certainly in the coming years that's

517
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Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's not an if. That's a win. Now,

518
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Speaker 1: that's just spring football. That's just those games don't count,

519
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: that's just spring would do we think FanDuel would put

520
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Speaker 1: lines out. I want to hit David Susan up over there.

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Speaker 1: You guys, you guys gonna hang Colorado minus three and

522
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Speaker 1: a half against North Carolina if they play in the spring.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's such a great idea, but we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five seasons still several months away, but I

525
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Speaker 1: think the twenty twenty five college football season has real chaos,

526
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: sort of wild card potential. You can decide whether you

527
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: think that's a good thing or a bad thing. But

528
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Speaker 1: for a few reasons, I'm already starting to get this vibe.

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Speaker 2: So what is it. It's March eighteenth.

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Speaker 1: I just want to put this out there so that

531
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Speaker 1: we're on the record as having said it long before

532
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Speaker 1: it happens. Think about all of the variables in the

533
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Speaker 1: landscape this year. So first off, it's the last year

534
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Speaker 1: of NIL being what it is right now, which is

535
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Speaker 1: pay for play.

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Speaker 2: The revenue sharing era is coming. Well that's just.

537
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Speaker 1: A lot of words to you, but what that means

538
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Speaker 1: to you is a lot of people are emptying the

539
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: dump truck of their NIL money right now because they

540
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: don't really think they're going to have to spend like

541
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Speaker 1: that anymore.

542
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Speaker 2: They're probably right.

543
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Speaker 1: I know of many instances where programs looked and they

544
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: frontloaded a guy's deal because the last time they're really

545
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: going to have to pay him like that after well,

546
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: including this year revenue sharing kicks in. Well, what that

547
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: means is there's a lot of volatility in rosters right now.

548
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: It was a weird movement cycle in rosters right now.

549
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: Not to mention, you've still got the usual situation where

550
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: the usual haves have had their second layer cut out

551
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: from under them because teams vastly overspent in many cases,

552
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Speaker 1: let's just call it what it is, on their twos

553
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Speaker 1: and their threes. Again, I'm going to leave it up

554
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Speaker 1: to you to decide whether that's a good thing or

555
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: a bad thing, but it is a thing, and that

556
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: probably means you've got a lot of little bit more variability, variants,

557
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it in the college football

558
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: cake this year as opposed to the usual structure and

559
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: set number of teams that can win the national title,

560
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: which leads me to my next point. I'm looking at

561
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Speaker 1: a piece of paper in front of me right now.

562
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Speaker 1: I have no idea who the clear number one in

563
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: college football is to start this year. And normally we

564
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: have that, and for that matter, normally we have a

565
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Speaker 1: solid top five.

566
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Speaker 2: We don't, We really don't have it this year.

567
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Speaker 1: Think about Oregon and Ohio State and Texas and Georgia.

568
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: They all replace quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Guys, they're all below fifty percent returning production. Those are

570
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Speaker 1: the top four teams in the odds to win the title,

571
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: which means in the land of the blind, you know,

572
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: the one eyed man can be king. You look at

573
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: a guy with one eye and normally you don't think

574
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: much of him. If he lives in the land of

575
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: the blind, he could rule the whole place. Well in

576
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: college football this fall. You look at a Penn State,

577
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: be very careful with how you talk about Penn State,

578
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: Be very careful with how you talk about a team

579
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Speaker 1: like Clemson or a team like Old miss because your

580
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: default is, oh, they're not going to win a title.

581
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Speaker 1: That that kind of team can't win a title. No,

582
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Speaker 1: that kind of team in twenty nineteen wouldn't beat that Lau,

583
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Speaker 1: That kind of team in twenty twenty one wouldn't beat

584
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: that Georgia. You don't know if we're gonna have that

585
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: caliber team this year. So number three. Think about all that,

586
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: and then think about the vast disparity and strength of

587
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: schedule out there. Think about how imbalanced these schedules are

588
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: not just conference to conference within a conference. We've talked

589
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: about this a lot over the past month. I've pointed

590
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Speaker 1: this out. I think we'll probably make this point a

591
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: dozen more times on the show as we sort of

592
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Speaker 1: get towards media days and then fall camp opening up.

593
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Speaker 1: Schedules are garbage this year. I don't mean there's no

594
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Speaker 1: big games. There's a ton of big games. I just

595
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: mean some teams are playing way more big games than others.

596
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Speaker 1: In our own internal metrics, We've got Oklahoma strength of

597
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: schedule as being in a one to sixteen Tennessee same

598
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: conference down at a seventy nine. We got Oklahoma, I

599
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: think we have them playing either eight or nine Tier

600
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: one slash Tier two opponents. We've got Tennessee playing four.

601
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: They're in the same conference because we've got fourteen, sixteen,

602
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: eighteen team conferences. Now that can happen because our scheduling

603
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: model's broken, and we schedule in the future still when

604
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: there's no reason we couldn't do it the year of.

605
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: So we've got that going for us.

606
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: And also, like I said, I just want to circle

607
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: back around to this, the usual take in college football.

608
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: I've been guilty of it as well the usual take.

609
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: History has taught us in college football to think in

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Speaker 1: terms of a very very finite amount of teams that

611
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: are capable of winning at all. And I just don't

612
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: think that's the case this year because there may not

613
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: be an elite team out there this year. There is

614
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: a ton of newness amongst the usual suspects. Like I said, Oregon, Georgia, Texas,

615
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: Ohio State, all new at quarterback, all below fifty percent

616
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: returning production. One of them may elevate and all this

617
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: could be a moot point. But if you don't have

618
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: one emerge, or if someone doesn't do like Ohio State

619
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: last year and get red hot and unbeatable in the playoffs,

620
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: that means stuff that normally could happened can happen. That

621
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: means a Notre Dame could win a national title. That

622
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 1: means a Penn State could win a national title. That

623
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: means a Tennessee or an Ole miss could win a

624
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: national title. And even as I'm saying that with my

625
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: logic presented, I know you guys because you're just like me,

626
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: you guys sitting there listening to that, saying yeah, okay,

627
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: but that's not gonna happen.

628
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: It probably won't happen.

629
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Speaker 1: You could say Texas A and M probably won't win

630
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: a national title. You can't rule it out because you

631
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: got to show me someone they definitively can't get passed.

632
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: We don't have that. We got some teams that would

633
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: be favored against them. We don't have anyone right now.

634
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: Granted it's March, but we don't have anyone that they

635
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: couldn't get passed. Because you don't even know what A

636
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: and M is yet. They're watching us in Mobile, Alabama. Allegedly,

637
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: they're watching us in Raleigh, but I don't know. My

638
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: paper ripped and they're watching us in Akron, Ohio.

639
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much.

640
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: There it is five Adam there in the live after

641
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: pouring my heart out quote Notre Dame in Penn State

642
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: are not winning?

643
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: All right? There?

644
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: It is, Well, guys, that's our show. It's not I

645
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: just don't get it. I don't get it. I guess

646
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: I don't get it.

647
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: Do we have.

648
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: Concerns, Yes, we've got concerns about everyone. Randall from Athens,

649
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: Georgia hit me. He said, why am I not excited

650
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: about George's offense? I feel like I love a lot

651
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: of the pieces coming back, like Frasier and Humphries and

652
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: Oscar delp. But I feel that seniority will be the

653
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: deciding factor at quarterback, and that discourages me. Well, if

654
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: there's one thing I've learned about Kirby Smart, it's that

655
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: he still got a long way to go before he

656
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: learns how to run a football program. So you know

657
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: that was mean. I shouldn't have said that. Not mean

658
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: to Kirby. He can take it. That was sarcasm, and

659
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: that was mean to the guy that presented the question.

660
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: Let's take that question for what it was.

661
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: I want to work back to front immunity, that favoritism

662
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: not no, no, no, You're worried that seniority will win

663
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: out at quarterback, and that discourages you humbly. What should

664
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: win out at quarterback? Because I don't think seniority's gonna

665
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: win out at quarterback. I think superiority is gonna win

666
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: out at quarterback. So yeah, if I had to guess,

667
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: I'd probably say Gunner Stockton's the guy Kirby Smart's gonna

668
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: roll with. I don't think it's cause Gunner Stockton is

669
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: filling the blank years old. I think he's the guy

670
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: that gives them the best chance to win come fall. Now,

671
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: apparently the connotation there and the question was Ryan Puglisi

672
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: is the guy with the higher upside. He may be,

673
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: He may be, but see that's the difference. That's the

674
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: benefit you get to exercise sitting at home. You get

675
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: to say that consequence free. You don't have to live

676
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: with the mistakes the guy with the higher upside may deliver.

677
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: They're dealing with this all over the country. You got

678
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: a lot of young Tuscalooses like this. Kelon Russell comes in, Man,

679
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: I hope he starts I just I hope he starts

680
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: over Ty Simpson. Why if he's not the better guy

681
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: for the job, why would you hope that? Just like it, Georgia,

682
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: listen to what the guy just said, Man, I hope

683
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: seniority doesn't win out. Well, don't you hope superiority wins out?

684
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: Like it always will? Because Kirby Smart's jobs on the

685
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: line depending on that stuff. So usually there's no favorites

686
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: played there. His favorite is the guy that gives him

687
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: the best chance to win, and that's probably going to

688
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: be understock him. And if it's not, then you'll know,

689
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: because he won't be the one starting, and someone else

690
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: will be the one starting. I still think that a

691
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: lot of people who watch this show are thirty or forty.

692
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: Anybody above thirty years old, it's safe to say, well,

693
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: actually everybody, pretty much everybody watching the show now has

694
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: grown up in the highlight era, because even in the nineties,

695
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: sports center ruled, and so we've got an entire multi

696
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: generational audience that grew up in the highlight era. So

697
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: when you think about a player, you do not think

698
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: about all twenty two cutups. You do not think about

699
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: practice footage, You do not think about drill work, You

700
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: do not think about the film room.

701
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: You think about highlights.

702
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: With Puglisi, it's probably Elite eleven or high school stuff.

703
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: But even then you think about highlights, you think about

704
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: his star rating, and you think about highlights with Gunner

705
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: Stock the same way. Anybody's not just quarterbacks. You think

706
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: in terms of highlights. Coaches think in terms of totality.

707
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: They can't do that. If you're gonna show a guy's highlights,

708
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: you better show the mundane second and three throwaways as well,

709
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: or better yet, the one he tried to fit in

710
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: there and it goes the other way. But that happened

711
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: at Tuesday in practice, so you didn't see it. But

712
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: guess who did see it, the guy who's got to

713
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: make the decision on who starts. So I think the

714
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: way it'll play out at Georgia is the way it's

715
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: always played out. And if gunnerstock Can gives them the

716
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: best chance to win, but he's not good enough ultimately

717
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: to get him better than eight and four, well then

718
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: Georgia will just go eight and four. But it won't

719
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: be because they started the wrong guy at quarterback. And

720
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: by the way, that's not to say coaches decisions are infallible,

721
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: because we've seen recent examples of guys who went through

722
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: a spring and then a fall camp and they won

723
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback battle. Then they may get hurt and the

724
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: backup comes in and he plays better than the starter had.

725
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: It's not a perfect science. They don't know everything. They

726
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: just know more than you do about their team. That's

727
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. I do get the concern, though. The

728
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: thing about it is if you would have just said

729
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: why do I feel concerned about Georgia this year and

730
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: stop there, I would have agreed with you. They were

731
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and second in rush yards per game last year.

732
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: That's well off the mark. That's not Kirby smart football.

733
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: And for that matter, the defense fell out of the

734
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: top twenty in points per game allowed since the first

735
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: time he got here. So running the ball in defense

736
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: are things that I've woken up every morning of the

737
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: past decade or so and thought I could rely on.

738
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: In Athens, Georgia, they didn't have either one of them

739
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: last year. And hey, by the way, here's the rest

740
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: of the joke. They still won the lead league. Shame

741
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: on the rest of you. They still won the league,

742
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: and they probably looked in the mirror and said, who

743
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: are we this year?

744
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: All right? Well, put the championship ring on anyway, in

745
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 2: a down year.

746
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: They just won the SEC last year. Now, concern for

747
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: this year valid. I don't think they'll be twelfth in

748
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: the country in pass yards per game this year, which

749
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: they were last year, which is the only thing that

750
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: kept them afloat offensively. So I don't think they'll be

751
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: that they lost their top seven sack providers. But Georgia's

752
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: kind of like Ohio State. They got a lot of

753
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: guys that everyone wanted out of high school and recruiting,

754
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,479
Speaker 1: you just don't know their names yet because they hadn't

755
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: started yet.

756
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of college football.

757
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: The beauty of college football, unlike the NFL, is it

758
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: is very much still a developmental part of the sport.

759
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: In the NFL, you're a commodity, you're supposed to already

760
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: be developed. No one really goes into Brown's mini camp

761
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: wondering whether a no name will emerge. In college we

762
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: see it happen multiple times on every team every year.

763
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: George is no different. If you're a hardcore recruiting fan,

764
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: you know their roster. If you're a casual college football

765
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: fan who lives in Cape Girardo, Missouri, you don't know

766
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: their roster, but you probably will because if history is

767
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: any indication, no names become stars every year at the

768
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: major programs. And it's one of the beautiful things about

769
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: this time of year because if they had to play

770
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: right now, they'd be a total wreck. And yet you

771
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: watch guys like Kirby Smart take teams that would look

772
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: like a total wreck if they had to play in March,

773
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: and in come November looks like a well oiled machine.

774
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: It's imperfect. Not every year's at the same caliber last year.

775
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: What't But again, if their down year has them competing

776
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: for and winning a conference title, then it usually is

777
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: a pretty good indicator. They know what they're doing. And

778
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: there's Quick Trips on like every corner in that state.

779
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: So I should know I grew up there. Maybe back

780
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: there sooner rather than later. Again, hooms to amongst us.

781
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: No hooms to defunk that we drive a thousand miles

782
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: last Saturday.

783
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: For storm chasing. You never know. Quick Trip does, though.

784
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: Inevitably they know it's coming in. Therefore they know they

785
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: got to be ready to fuel us, and they have

786
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: and they will continue to. It could be colbrew on tap,

787
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: it could be gasoline on tap. One is for you

788
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: to consume, one is for your vehicle to consume.

789
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 2: But Quick Trip's got it all. We appreciate them.

790
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: They've been fueling the show and the tour and basically

791
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: every time we got to hit the road, and we

792
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: thank them for it. It's time to tell the truth, Colin.

793
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about the best way I can intro this.

794
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: Here's what happened.

795
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: Backstory, Colin, This is not for not for the cut.

796
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: So here's what was happening. I was having a little

797
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: convo with someone. It's one of those one of those

798
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: buddy to buddy, one of those b to b convos

799
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: where you just bounce all over the place. And Lane

800
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: Kiffin comes up, and we were talking about him. You

801
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: were both kind of the same age, and we're both

802
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: diehard college football fans, football in general, really, and so

803
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about how wild his story was. And then

804
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: I realized, like, every time you make a point about

805
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: Kiff and someone else makes another point and then it's

806
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: like a ping pong ball.

807
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: So Colin, here's a good endpoint.

808
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: We like telling the truth around here about teams, about players,

809
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: but also about coaches. And I was thinking about Lane Kiffin.

810
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: No two people have the same take on him. If

811
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: I were to ask, hey, lifelong college football fan, I've

812
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: never watched the game, tell me about Lane Kiffin, ten

813
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: different people would tell ten different stories.

814
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: What's the truth. What's the truth about Lane Kiffin?

815
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: Well, you could describe him as enigmatic, you could call

816
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: him a guru, you could call him complicated. You know,

817
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: though he's entering year six at ol Miss, so I

818
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: think a lot of folks, me included, still feel like

819
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: he kind of just got there. The old Miss Lane

820
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: KIFFI thing is still kind of new, certainly not where

821
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: you start with the Kiffin story, but if you work

822
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: most recently backwards, he's over half a decade in at

823
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: Old Miss. And I don't think people realize this because

824
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: there's so much layering to the way you would describe

825
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin that you almost have ten minutes worth of

826
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: content before you get around to the idea that Kiffin's

827
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: one of the best head coaches in America and nobody

828
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: realizes it. Josh Lane Kiffin, Yeah, Lane Kiffin. You want

829
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: to do yourself a favor if you want to wipe

830
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: all the bias away, remove the name Lane Kiffin.

831
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: Just have a blind resume.

832
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: If I tell you a guy's coaching at ol Miss

833
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: and he's put three double digit win seasons together in

834
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: the last four years, and you know your history, you

835
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: would know it took Ole Miss from nineteen seventy one

836
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty to do that three times. He's done

837
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: it three times in four years. They would have made

838
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: the Expanded College Football Playoff multiple times in those years

839
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: if it would have been around. And also, he's had

840
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: one of the best offenses in the sport virtually every

841
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: year he is, I think, begrudgingly leaned into the portal

842
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: and they were well ahead of the curve on how

843
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: to play the nil game. So again, because it's Lane Kiffin,

844
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: people say, oh, Lane Kiffin, and then they just start

845
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: going off on these tangents about non football related matters.

846
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: Hey, man, Kiffin's got just chapter after chapter.

847
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: Of non football related content in the eventual biography, maybe autobiography,

848
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: but biography that they'll write on him. But the football

849
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: piece can't be denied at this point. How do you

850
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: deny it? And the other thing about Kiffin, that's the

851
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: truth that I don't think most folks realize, is he's

852
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: way more old school in his approach. Kiffin's way more

853
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: old school in the way he sees the game than

854
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: you think. You may think about Kiffin and you may think, oh, man,

855
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: he runs his mouth on Twitter too much. He's just

856
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: nothing but a troll. Well, yeah, he likes to have fun.

857
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is purely social media,

858
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: because in person, that's really not.

859
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: What he's like.

860
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: But I want you to think about the approach old

861
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: school coaches would take to today's game. You can go

862
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: way back, man, you can go back to like the sixties, seventies, eighties.

863
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: I really, truthfully don't think most folks realize how similar

864
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin is in his philosophy about the.

865
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: Game as those guys are.

866
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: If you mentioned Woody Hayes or Bosham Beckler and then

867
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: Lane Kiff and you think, oh, they got nothing in common, well,

868
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, we were looking through the archives today. Do

869
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: you remember the name DeSanto Rollins? Most of you don't.

870
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: If you do, man gold star for you. DeSanto Rollins

871
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: was a kid sixty four about three hundred, just decides

872
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: to skip two weeks of practice. Claims it's mental health related.

873
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: We saw through it at the time. Lawsuit ended up

874
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: getting dismissed.

875
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: It was garbage.

876
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: Dude just didn't want to practice, and so he tried

877
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: to hide behind mental health because it was really really

878
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: popular to do that at the time. And if you

879
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: take that seriously, then you also need to call it

880
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: out when it's used as a BS excuse.

881
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: That's how old school coaches would have dealt with that.

882
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: Well, the thing about this dude is he goes in

883
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: to meet with Lane Kiffin and he secretly recorded a conversation,

884
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: which is legal in Mississippi.

885
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 2: It's a one party consent state.

886
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: So he goes in there, and I want you to

887
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: imagine your Paul Bryant's or your Bosham Beckler's or your

888
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: new Rockney's. And you go in after skipping two weeks

889
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: of practice, and they've been summoning you to the coach's

890
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: office and you've just said I'm not ready to meet

891
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: with the coach yet for two weeks, and then you

892
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: go in and meet with the coach. You tell me,

893
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: it would sound a whole lot different than this roll

894
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: at Colin if you would.

895
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 4: Have come here when you kept getting messages the head

896
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 4: coach wants to talk to you, and you saying I'm

897
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 4: not ready to talk to him. I wasn't.

898
00:43:53,880 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: Where Ald do you live in? Just get out of here,

899
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: go go.

900
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 4: You're off the team if you're done see here, see here,

901
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: because I see you.

902
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: Go go and guess what.

903
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: We can kick you off the team. Just go read

904
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: your writes about mental health. We can kick you off

905
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 4: the team for not showing up when the head coach

906
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 4: has to meet with you and you don't show up

907
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: for weeks, Okay, we can remove you from the team.

908
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 4: It's called it's called hiking behind and not showing.

909
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: Up to work. What control in there was he so

910
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: also with the portal stuff, you know, with the talent

911
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: acquisition stuff.

912
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: Look, I think there's a lot about the sport right now.

913
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin detests that he leans into cause he has

914
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: to because that's the only way you can win right now.

915
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: But I do think his approach is way more old

916
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: school than most realize. I would also say this, and

917
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: this is where I just cross both fingers. At any

918
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: given point, if you look around, you could cover Nascar,

919
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: you could cover equestrian, you could cover pop culture. I

920
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 1: cover college football. At any given point, you look around

921
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: the landscape of the field you're in. This could be

922
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: your senior class. If you're in high school right now.

923
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: Which figure in that landscape do you think would be

924
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: best cut out to be like the focal point of

925
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: a multi part Netflix series down the road, and it's

926
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen Right now in college football, there's not even

927
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: a close Number two. If you found out that ten

928
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: years from now there will be a ten part docu series,

929
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: it's unfiltered, everybody tells the truth, everybody participates. Lane Kiffen

930
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: would be slamm dunk Number one. I don't even know

931
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: who number two would be? Who would number two? But

932
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: there's not even a close second. Do you understand this,

933
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: dude's not fifty years old. Yet you go all the

934
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: way back to the Pete Carroll like Matt Lioner uc days.

935
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: He's then the Raiders head coach in his early thirties.

936
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: He then goes to Tennessee for one year as the

937
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: head coach, then bolts and it was a wild scene

938
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: in Knoxville as he tried to get out of there,

939
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: and he goes to USC then they end up leaving

940
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: him on the tarmac and he gets fired. Then he

941
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: goes and is just a whipping boy for Nick Saban

942
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 1: for two years, the most oil and water combination imaginable,

943
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: and yet it yields fantastic results. And then he's fired

944
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: the week of the National title game. It was so bad,

945
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: it got so contentious. Saban said, I know we're playing

946
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: Clemson in the National Title Game in a few days.

947
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm a fire my offensive coordinator, mainly because his backup

948
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: is a guy named Steve Sarkisian, so I feel comfortable

949
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: doing it.

950
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna fire Lane Kiffin.

951
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: Then Kiffin goes to fau and then all he does

952
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 1: is win and then he gets the old miss job.

953
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: He's not fifty years old yet. It sounds like he's

954
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen years old. He's not fifty years

955
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: old yet. So the truth about Lane Kiffin, it's complicated,

956
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: but there's some things you can't deny.

957
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: And here's what's most important. Since he happens to be

958
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: a football coach, he's one of the best football.

959
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: Coaches in America. We haven't done our head coaching power

960
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: ratings for this year. We will, but where is Lane Kiffen?

961
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: And before you dismiss him, before you tell me he's overrated,

962
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: you better tell me what he's rated. And you're better

963
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: tell me who's put together a body of work that's

964
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: ahead of him. There are some out there. I'm not

965
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: putting him a head of Kirby Smart. No one's arguing

966
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin greater than Ryan Day. However, I'm arguing that

967
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: you get your usual names out of the way. You

968
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: don't get too far down the list before you've got

969
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: to start acknowledging Lane Kiffin.

970
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: The truth about Lane Kiffin.

971
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: Did we think we'd use that headline at one point

972
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: thirty in the afternoon today, No, we did not, but

973
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,520
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976
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: do our head coaching power ratings coming up, and to

977
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: just go over under on Lane Kiffin? What do we

978
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: think off the top of your head, if you were

979
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: to power rate every head coach.

980
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: In America right now over under?

981
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: What's eight and a half, ninth and a half, tenth

982
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: and a half? Like where would you put the over

983
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: under for Lane Kiffin? Like where he falls in head

984
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,239
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985
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,839
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986
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: I would tell Colin what the results are, and then

987
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,200
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988
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1017
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Speaker 1: of me tonight. This is not something I normally talk

1018
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: about in spring, but I gotta be honest. This one

1019
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: caught my eye. W Sharp from Rochester, Minnesota hit me.

1020
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: He said, it just saw the Heisman odds and it's

1021
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: shocking how little talent there is at quarterback this year.

1022
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: Are we about to see back to back non quarterback Heisman's?

1023
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: Well, hold on a second. We were just talking about FanDuel.

1024
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: So thirty six of the top thirty nine favorites to

1025
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 1: win the Heisman this year are quarterbacks. So quarterback shark

1026
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: fan is still very, very prominent off the Heisman shores

1027
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: A really good combination of words.

1028
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: There, by the way.

1029
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: But the talent, Hold on a second, So he said,

1030
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: Jesse that the talent is down at quarterback this year.

1031
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: How do we know that? How do we know that

1032
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: proven production is down at the quarterback position this year?

1033
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: But I got a list in front of me of

1034
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: just arch Manning. How do you know how good he's

1035
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: gonna be this year? How do you know how talented

1036
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: he is. Garrett Nusmyer's returning.

1037
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: DJ Lagway. He's not even throwing in camp right now,

1038
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: but he.

1039
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: Probably will in the fall. Kay Klubnick, how do you

1040
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: know what he's gonna be this year? Dante Moore starts

1041
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: for Oregon. He could be a star this year. Julian

1042
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: Sayin diddo for Ohio State. Nico I Amaliava just because

1043
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: he was relatively modest statistically year one. He's playing for Joshhipel.

1044
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: He's a stud. They're paying him a ton of money.

1045
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: He's a former five star guy. Everyone wanted him. You're

1046
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: telling me he can't level up his production significantly. Drew

1047
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: Ollers back again. We got Sellers over at South Carolina.

1048
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: Matier just transferred to Oklahoma. Austin Simmons is going to

1049
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: be a breakout star at Old Mess. Carson Beck a

1050
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: lot going on non football related right now, but eventually

1051
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: he will strap it up down at Miami. There's all

1052
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: kind of talent, it's just unproven at the college level.

1053
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: There's all kind of talent. But I will grant you this.

1054
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: There are some good non quarterbacks out there.

1055
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: But think about what it took last year. Travis Hunter

1056
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: won this thing last year. It took him playing both

1057
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: ways to win it. Davante Smith won it at wide

1058
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: receiver and he also, I think had a quarterback that

1059
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: was the finalist. So that's always the catch twenty two.

1060
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: If Jeremiah Smith at Ohio State ends up doing it,

1061
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: it was probably Julian Saying throwing him the ball. So

1062
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: is it one of those inverted dynamics where the wide

1063
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: receiver outshines the quarterback.

1064
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: Could be could be he's fourth overall.

1065
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith in the odds, so that's probably the guy

1066
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: who does it. If someone does it. Ryan Williams is

1067
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: number eighteen overall. He could be another one.

1068
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: It could be.

1069
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: I think it would be a wide receiver. If it's

1070
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: not a quarterback, I think it'd be a receiver. But

1071
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 1: the other one that is there and will get his shot,

1072
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: as Jeremiah Love this year at Notre Dame tailback up there.

1073
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: He's number twenty overall. But man, I don't know about

1074
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: this no talent at.

1075
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: The quarterback position.

1076
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: What year have we ever gone through in college football

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