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Speaker 1: Your Achilles injury. Yes, fucked up.

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Speaker 2: That's the people have no idea, right, So talk about

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Speaker 3: Now at that it was a teacher where it was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: But so my Achilles happened, and my second year, I

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Speaker 5: broke my foot like I got to screw in it.

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Speaker 4: So it was that same It was that same foot.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, man, that was one of the biggest challenges

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Speaker 5: of my life, my Achilles injury, because I was able.

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Speaker 5: This was the first time in my life where it

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Speaker 5: was out of my control. I have to have a

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Speaker 5: summer where I don't play basketball. You know, I'm dealing

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Speaker 5: with stuff off the court with baby Mama's and you know,

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Speaker 4: So I'm just trying to figure out.

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Speaker 5: Like, you know, I had to find myself again, you know,

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Speaker 5: through through all that, because I was losing myself because

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Speaker 5: I was too busy trying to make everybody else happy

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Speaker 3: You know, man, you find and I think all of

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Speaker 3: us can relate to that. Like you look around and

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Speaker 3: you're working your ass off. You made it to the NBA,

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Speaker 3: and you should be excited and happy about the situation

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Speaker 3: you in And you look around and everybody else happy,

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Speaker 3: but you ain't happy. That shit is this? Shit is crazy?

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Speaker 3: Is it crazy? I've been that dog, Like this is

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Speaker 3: and I'm here and I look around and everybody else

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Speaker 3: And that's what people don't talk about, Like them dark nights.

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Speaker 3: I tell people all the time. And I said this before.

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Speaker 3: There was days, Bro, I wouldn't leave my hotel room.

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Speaker 3: Killer you probably know this. When we were playing together.

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Speaker 3: It was days I wouldn't leave my hotel room and

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And those what people don't

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Speaker 3: talk about. I think they see the parades, they see

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Speaker 3: the trophies, they see the confetti, and they think it's

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Speaker 3: like that all the time. That's like two percent of

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Speaker 3: the shit. The other ninety eight percent of this shit

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. What people understand, it's not

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Speaker 3: fun unless you win, man, It's not It's not fun

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Speaker 3: unless you win, bro. And that's why I was so

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Speaker 3: committed to winning, because I wanted the benefit of the

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Speaker 3: work that I was putting in.

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Speaker 2: Speaking speaking speaking of winning in twenty thirteen, you said,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get the Miami heating six.

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Speaker 3: That's that good Cali Budd. You know that good Cali Budd.

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Speaker 3: That's that gas, That good Cali Budd. And she was

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Speaker 3: floating around. It had to be. Now they challenged us

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Speaker 3: in the regular season, they did. They gave us all

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Speaker 5: You know what's crazy? The Bucks. Actually they're winning six.

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Speaker 5: They beat they beat the Sons in six. So actually

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Speaker 5: I was just speaking shipping to exist.

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Speaker 4: That's all you were doing in the future.

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Speaker 3: We had no chance, you know, Oh my god, listen,

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Speaker 3: you got the king ripped up. You got they do

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Speaker 3: take it over, bron don't get ribbed up for whatever

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Speaker 3: she got the Brons skin. The Rayne laughed or that Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we trapped the ship out. You too, didn't you remember me?

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Speaker 3: I trapped your ass as soon as you can any

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Speaker 3: pick and roll out on his ass like hookies. Come on,

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Speaker 3: he come out this picking roll if you want to

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Speaker 5: Me and Monte came out on fire in the first half.

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Speaker 5: Second half it was quiet. I was like ship and

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Speaker 5: we did that on purpose.

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Speaker 3: We said we're gonna say supposed said if he get going,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna change the coverage. And you got going the

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Speaker 3: first half and the second half we say we're gonna

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Speaker 4: After that, I ain't see. I couldn't man. Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: You got like you know what I'm saying. Obviously injuries

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Speaker 3: and what you was a bucket dog like real ship

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Speaker 3: like shifty can shoot and all three levels can get

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Speaker 1: He was another one.

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Speaker 2: Every time he switched off Elmo filers that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: You ain't gonna dance on me.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna trap this motherfucker. That's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna put to to the ball and make somebody

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Speaker 4: That was that Scott Scouts man, he had us in

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Speaker 4: that and them set to that. You know, Scotts. Shout

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Speaker 4: out to Scott Scouts. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like Scot Scouts as a person. I don't know

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Speaker 3: him as a coach, but he was wasn't here you

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Speaker 5: I just can't because remember I had just came from Europe,

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Speaker 5: so I was getting custed out in the Italian languages,

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Speaker 3: Did y'all have this in Europe? Where it's days where

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Speaker 3: y'all just had conditioning to day where I didn't even

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my first yeah we had, I was.

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Speaker 3: Like, what the fuck is this? When I got that,

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Speaker 3: what the fuck is I came to play basketball?

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Speaker 4: Jack?

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Speaker 5: My first two weeks we have to play soccer? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: like we had. It was no basketball, like, we have

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Speaker 3: We went for a jog in the in the forest

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Speaker 4: And it's two days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they still do two days too, and I stayed in.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you did this because what's what

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Speaker 3: Okay, see I was on some weird ship. I stayed

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Speaker 3: It's mother fucker off the rocker. I mean, for me,

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Speaker 3: I always took ship to extreme. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: That's what I do do. I took the ship to extreme.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm going back to America and nigga,

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Speaker 1: You ain't sleep until you get back.

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't kill it. I didn't tell you. I

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Speaker 3: was like, fuck that, I gotta get out of here.

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Speaker 3: But my Auntie went with me. You said that you

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Speaker 3: She took care of a boy.

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Speaker 2: And Now for our NFL Future segment brought to you

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Speaker 2: by DraftKings, mister Haslam, I am going with over Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow four thousand, one hundred and fifty zero point five yards.

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Speaker 2: It's a little too early. I had this conversation. I

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Speaker 2: get at Ud, but here's what I'm saying. I think

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Speaker 2: you're gonna come back and have an epic year. I

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Speaker 2: don't know whose wide receivers are yet. It's gonna be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. That's why I'm back by Why is

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Speaker 3: his over four thousand, one hundred and fifty and Lamar

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Speaker 2: Because he because Lamar probably run for three thousand, four

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Speaker 3: That's that's the conception. But Lamar doesn't run as much.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't think he doesn't. So that's who you are,

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Speaker 3: you old Lamarr doesn't run as much as people think.

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Speaker 3: I will go with Lamar. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: We don't know if Joe Brow is gonna have T

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Speaker 3: Higgins next year.

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Speaker 1: That's way too early.

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Speaker 3: That's up in the air.

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Speaker 1: Draft hadn't been here yet.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and and and if I'm not mistaken, these

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Speaker 3: I mean they think them are gonna get worse. Who

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Speaker 3: the fuck me? Who put this up here? Trafficks, Well

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Speaker 3: that's bullshit. I don't agree Vegas taking I'm taking the over.

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Speaker 1: You're taking the over run. I think it's a great bett.

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Speaker 1: I'm going over on Joe Burrow. Yeah, that's our picks

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Speaker 1: for the future. Way too early to call, but that's

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Speaker 3: We just made it easy for ourself. I talked about

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Speaker 3: I took the black guy. He took the white guy.

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Speaker 3: We made it easy for made it easy for and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got a question. You listens, so you know

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Speaker 5: life after basketball. You know we're all trying to figure out.

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Speaker 5: You know. I found my passion in fashion. You guys

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Speaker 2: Well when I got when I got done, same with everybody,

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Speaker 2: like you take a deep breath, like, what the fuck

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, got into college coaching, loved it. I was coaching

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Speaker 2: with Penny at University Memphis. Someone approached me about doing

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Speaker 2: there's not more basketball people leading that charge was crazy

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Speaker 2: to me. Awesome agents out there. I still think there's

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Speaker 2: great agents out there. When you look at the landscape,

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Speaker 2: it's just like any business you get into, right you

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Speaker 2: look at what you're gonna keep competing against. The best

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Speaker 1: Have been doing it for a long long time.

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Speaker 2: There needed to be some kind of a change and

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Speaker 2: some kind of you know, I'm big on disruption, So

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Speaker 2: I came in there. I wanted to build my agency

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Speaker 2: exactly like the other agencies, but they couldn't be like us,

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Speaker 2: which is basketball led.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: Man, Like, when you get done with a game, if

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Speaker 2: they ain't family, who you calling, right, fucked up game?

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Speaker 1: Good game?

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Speaker 2: You're calling your agent. That's how we So I just

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Speaker 2: want to bring that basketball blend. And I was like, Yo,

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Speaker 2: it's a perfect opportunity.

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Speaker 5: To come in here and do this and disrupt and

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Speaker 5: what you're experience in basketball. You know, with the players

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Speaker 5: that you signed with, some of the things you're able

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Speaker 5: to warn these players about like you know that's coming

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Speaker 5: that you know that a lot of them, you know,

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Speaker 2: Well, just like all of a sudden, this count We've

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Speaker 2: seen the good, bad, but fucking ugly. I tell people,

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Speaker 2: man like I played seventeen seasons and it wasn't the

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Speaker 2: And so for any of these especially the young kids,

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Speaker 2: Like we played on the Miami Heat, there was time

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Speaker 2: Like, that's the type of stuff I think again, we're

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Speaker 2: So like, if you can just do that and build

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's just don't shit, you know. And

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Speaker 5: One of my boys told me, Man, you came from

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Speaker 4: And how did you feel?

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Speaker 3: Listen, I wish we had some clips of this ship here.

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Speaker 3: They gotta be exaggerating. I seen this motherfucker play. We

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Speaker 4: A shot of three.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what the other four guys are doing.

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Speaker 3: When I went back to Miami, I said, I've seen

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, man, it was I gave

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Speaker 2: all the come fly with me. I just basketball is

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean? So I was, I was, I

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Speaker 3: It was the first time you admitted that you were different.

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Speaker 2: I was different in that aspect, like I gave zero zero.

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Speaker 3: No, you were better than the guys that you play with.

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