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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. We digress here to

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Speaker 1: a really important interview, and I would suggest an important

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Speaker 1: national interview. If we assume that we have fractured politics,

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Speaker 1: is at worse in France or Japan? Hello man, Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe New York City's a template for us. Joining is

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Speaker 1: someone who has the attention of all within New York City?

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Speaker 1: Curtis Lee? What joins us now? Candidate for mayor, always, always,

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Speaker 1: forever affiliated with the GOP and the Republican candidate. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I look at any kind of polling and

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Speaker 1: I'm sort of surprised that you're just sub twenty percent.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever polled this high? Is this a normal polling?

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Speaker 2: I think at this point.

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Speaker 3: I think at this point of the election cycle, yes,

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Speaker 3: because they're just polling Republicans who are only ten percent

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Speaker 3: of the electorate.

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Speaker 2: So fucking independence that they don't pull.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes they do, and I do incredibly well with them,

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Speaker 3: some moderate Democrats. And then remember I have an independent

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Speaker 3: line that nobody has factored in. Protect animals, no kill, shelters,

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Speaker 3: animal abuses in jail, very popular with women who rescue animals,

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Speaker 3: and naturally they're not heard from in the polls.

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Speaker 1: I look at the New York Times. They got fancy

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Speaker 1: buttons I can press. I'm not as sophisticated this curtis

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Speaker 1: like Paul Sweeney is. But if I X Adams, they

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Speaker 1: have a tab where I can take them out. Yet

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Speaker 1: and I do the math courtiously, what plus Andrew Cuomo?

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Speaker 2: Guess what?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't equal Zeron Mandami, but it comes pretty close.

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Speaker 1: What's the tension you see now of the summation of

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Speaker 1: the governor and you with the upstart candidate of the left.

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Speaker 3: We all know the Poles have been wrong every step

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Speaker 2: Remember two months go back to Iowa.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, that's just two months into the Democratic primary.

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Speaker 3: They were preparing the coronation of andrewmo is Our next

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Speaker 3: mayor forty points ahead is Zorhan Mondami. He lost by

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Speaker 3: thirteen points. I look at my mentor in this rate,

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Speaker 3: George Bataki on November two of nineteen ninety four against

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Speaker 3: the better Cuomo Mario. They had him down by twelve points.

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Speaker 3: He won by three points. The day before the election

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Speaker 3: was no early voting back then. It was either a

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Speaker 3: vote November fourth orraps seeing the team valor or that's it.

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Speaker 3: Look at the Trump election over Harris, it was supposed

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Speaker 3: to be neck and neck. He not only won the.

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Speaker 2: Popular vote, he won the seven battleground states.

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Speaker 3: I don't put any any trust in these polls.

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Speaker 2: I know what I feel in the streets. I'm in

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Speaker 2: the outer boroughs.

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Speaker 3: You look, I have ten headquarters, I have signage everywhere.

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Speaker 3: I don't see signage at all for Cuomo. So CMO's

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Speaker 3: whole vote is based on fear. Nobody likes this guy.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows he was the author and no cash bail

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Speaker 3: raised the age who wants to close rikers. He and

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Speaker 3: Zoron Mondami when it comes to law and order are

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Speaker 3: two peas in a pot. And then he told about prostitution.

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Speaker 3: Zoron is in favor of legalized prostitution, but the governor

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Speaker 3: at the time, Cuomo signed the legislation to enable people

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Speaker 2: So I don't see any.

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Speaker 3: Differentiation at all between Cuomo and Johan Mondami.

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Speaker 4: What is your message New York City residents these last

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Speaker 3: I am the only candidate GOP candidate that wants to

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Speaker 3: slash taxes, corporate tax, income tax, especially the property tax,

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Speaker 3: which a mayor does hold sway over and the Citizens

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Speaker 3: Budget Commission said, I'm the only one who's talking about

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Speaker 3: fiscal constraint one hundred and eighteen dollars billion budget for

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Speaker 2: Cuomo and Zoron would actually increase it.

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Speaker 3: I would take ten billion dollars right out of the

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Speaker 3: Department of Education, which is all being spent on the bureaucracy,

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Speaker 3: on people like Larry Kutler, who's my advisor, George Spattacki,

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Speaker 3: who did that as governor, and then Rudy Giuliani, who

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Speaker 1: This came up this weekend. I said, I got sleeve

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Speaker 1: on Monday. They said, you got to ask him this question,

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Speaker 1: Mayor Sliwa with the city council. Can you get along

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Speaker 1: with the city council to get things done?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: The benefit of my life is that I spent thirteen

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Speaker 3: She's now the Queen's Democratic DA. She taught me how

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Speaker 3: you get along with city. Can't you do that? It's

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Speaker 3: called discretionary funds. You go into the district, they beat

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Speaker 3: you up. You meet with the staff, because the staff

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Speaker 3: does all the work, remember the elected officials, because the

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Speaker 3: electeds are always dialing for dollars, shaking people down for

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Speaker 3: political contributions. And then you say, I just want one

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Speaker 3: vote from you, and I get you your discretionary funds.

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Speaker 3: You're looking for a new park, you're looking for a

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Speaker 3: new playground, you're looking the.

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Speaker 2: Capital list politics a trade.

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Speaker 3: I get one vote that I desperately need to show

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Speaker 3: that there is dialogue even with those who are considered liberal,

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Speaker 3: progressive democratic socialists of America. If you don't do that,

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Speaker 3: no matter who the mayor is, you're not going to

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Speaker 3: be able to get the City Council in a majority

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Speaker 3: way to back any of your initiatives. You'll be impotent,

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Speaker 3: as Eric Adams say, is now because Adrian Adams, the

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Speaker 3: Speaker of the Council, is the real mayor of the

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Speaker 3: City of New York.

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Speaker 4: What's your policy for which is an issue that's very

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Speaker 4: closely intertwined homelessness and crime in New York City.

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Speaker 2: What's your policy?

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Speaker 3: Well, homelessness, I deal with emotionally disturbed in the subways

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Speaker 3: because I'm the only candidate that actually rides the subways, campaigns,

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Speaker 3: takes the buses, the express buses. That's six million New

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Speaker 3: the Staten Island Advance the mayor of mass Transportation. We

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Speaker 3: need to get the homeless into the shelters, but we

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Speaker 2: Now they're not. It's like Darwinian survival of the finish.

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Speaker 3: And we need to get the emotionally disturbed in state

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Speaker 3: mental hospitals, the very hospitals that aew Coomo creid from

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Speaker 3: fearing impeachment to the Hamptage.

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Speaker 1: And for you, Curtis Sliwa, for all of you across America,

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Speaker 1: good morning. He is a Republican candidate in a fractured

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Speaker 1: New York City mayoral contests. Let me quote exactly from

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Speaker 1: AI because that's the way we rolled Curtis in the

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Speaker 1: twoy twenty one New York City mayoral election, Kurtis Sliwa

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Speaker 1: I would suggest President Trump stunned the nation with his

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Speaker 1: And everybody thinks they don't go near you come out?

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Speaker 1: You got twenty one percent in the Bronx. How do

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows that Curtis Leewa is Republican who can go

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Speaker 3: at about thirty percent in the Bronx. Remember, Eric Adams

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Speaker 3: was supposed to be the new face of the Democratic

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Speaker 1: Is mom Donnie the new face of the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's face it.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats allowed the fox into the chicken coop, first

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Speaker 2: I blame Adams. I blame Cuomo.

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Speaker 3: I blame the Democratic establishment because they have surrendered their

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Speaker 3: party to socialism, and I am the only one who

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Speaker 3: is advocating capitalistic policies, cutting taxes, cutting the budget.

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Speaker 2: Law and order.

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Speaker 3: We live in a city where we're best known around

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Speaker 3: the world for locking up toothpaste and not locking up criminals.

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Speaker 2: Now, who does that? That's the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: You got to run like fifteen times to get a

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's great, locking up to do this immigration?

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Speaker 4: What's your views on immigration here? This is a city

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Speaker 2: We've got a.

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Speaker 2: What's your view.

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Speaker 3: Well, many of the migrants now are essential workers in

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Speaker 3: the restaurant industry and the hospitality industry. If you start

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Speaker 3: snatching them up because they're not wanted for crimes committee

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Speaker 3: to be depleting that workforce. I have three sons. None

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Speaker 3: of my three sons would do that kind of work. Now,

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Speaker 3: you go after, as Trump called them, the bad Ombrage,

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Speaker 3: the drug dealers, the sex track case, the cartel runners. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and Ice was being appointed when they first did that.

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Speaker 2: But your card here.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Adams could say the same thing. I don't buy it,

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Speaker 1: but your card is you've got a special relationship with

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Speaker 1: President Trump with what we see in Chicago, Portland, LA.

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Speaker 1: Give me some other towns, Paul.

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Speaker 2: They're out of Portland, multiple Memphis.

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Speaker 1: In New York, I know from personal experience, are scared

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Speaker 1: if they're migrants, immigrants, Green card holders to go out

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Speaker 3: First of all, I'm leader of the Guardian Angels with

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Speaker 3: they need the National guard We don't. Kathy Hockel, the

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Speaker 3: that regards focus on the really crime ridden cities. I

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna win, You're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Try to sort of, as we would say in Italian Medzica,

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Speaker 3: megic poco poco half and half. The Trump administration will

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Speaker 3: get some of what they want. Hopefully the city will

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Speaker 3: Zora Mandami and Andrew com saying I'm gonna fight Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: What do you make of the rise ofs for Mamdani here?

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Speaker 3: It is simply because the Democrats were asleep, like Rumphel

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Speaker 2: I saw zor On Mandami.

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Speaker 3: He was out organizing votes for Democratic Socialist candidates.

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Speaker 2: They know how to get their vote out.

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Speaker 3: The moderate Democrats are now dependent on Republicans, Conservatives, and independents.

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Speaker 3: It's over for the moderate Democrats. They've sacrificed. They've waved

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Speaker 3: the white fleck. They don't even primary the liberals, Progressives,

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Speaker 3: and the Democratic Socialists of America. They're afraid of them.

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Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of them. I stand up to them.

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Speaker 1: If we assume that mister Mumdami is getting out an

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Speaker 1: original vote, I mean he's getting out people. You know,

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Speaker 3: Voters because I'm out in the streets. You see the

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Speaker 3: of Democrats for law and order, they're not fan angeel Coomo.

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Speaker 2: I was in.

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Speaker 1: I want you to do this. One zero zero two nine,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and tenth Street, Spanish Harlem. That post office

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Speaker 1: between Third and Les. You walk in that post office,

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Speaker 1: everybody in there is some form of first or second

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Speaker 1: generation immigrant. What do you say to those people to

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Speaker 1: get them to vote for Lincoln's party?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Law in Order right. They're against no cash bail.

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Speaker 3: They want the raise the age lower back to sixteen

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Speaker 3: because now we have all these juveniles doing drive by shootings.

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Speaker 2: And they want Rikers Island kept open.

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Speaker 3: Why is Cuomo and Zorahan Mandami wanting to close Rikers Island?

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Speaker 2: Where are they going to put inmates.

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Speaker 3: They're going to be cut loose and they're going to

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Speaker 3: just terrorize people in the streets. And remember the number

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Speaker 3: one number of workers in New York City of women.

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Speaker 3: Talk to the women They're going the subway, being sexually harassed,

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Speaker 3: they're being perved on, They're afraid to go out at night,

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Speaker 3: they can't afford taking yellow cabs, ubers and lyfts, and

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Speaker 3: nobody is talking about what women have to go through

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Speaker 3: in New York City. I know because my wife, who's

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Speaker 3: an e attorney, has explained it and has done my

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Speaker 3: very first commercial about the plight of women being victims

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Speaker 3: of random attacks. What random attacks? This is being directed

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Speaker 3: at women and they're not being protected.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk about financial support. What financial

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Speaker 1: support do you have for the next twenty day dash

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Speaker 1: to the election.

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Speaker 3: I have collected actually in the three the last three

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Speaker 3: quarters average donation one hundred and nineteen dollars more matching

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Speaker 3: funds than Johann Mandami, Cuomo and Eric Adams combined. We're

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Speaker 3: talking about donations from New York City residents. The others

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Speaker 3: are getting their money from out of state. I would

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Speaker 3: take the money of the local New Yorker who obviously

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Speaker 3: is putting their reputation on the line when I'm getting

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Speaker 3: an eight to one match and I'm on TV, and

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Speaker 3: I'm in the neighborhoods, and to have the money.

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Speaker 2: To run a campaign people want.

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Speaker 1: Our news reporters want to know. Are you even considering

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Speaker 1: dropping out the shift this campaign?

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Speaker 3: You know what, talk to the dropout King who dropped

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Speaker 3: out against Carma Coll running for governor, Andrew Cuomo, who

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Speaker 3: dropped out and fled to the Hamptons because he feared

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Speaker 3: impeachment Andrew Cuomo. Did Donald Trump flee to mar A

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Speaker 3: Lago because he feed impeachment? Did Donald Trump flee to

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Speaker 3: mar A Lago because he was a victim of law

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Speaker 3: fair by Alvin Bragg and Tiss James. No, he showed

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Speaker 3: up in court each and every day. Calmo is a coward.

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Speaker 3: He's the only one who's ever dropped out.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining Bloomberg this morning, Curtis Lee. Well,

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Speaker 1: of course, may Oral Kennedy here. We hope to get

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Speaker 1: all of the candidates in here. As we dashed the

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Speaker 1: first Tuesday of November,